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Speaker 1: First day of the new league year, which kicked off

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Speaker 1: at two o'clock this afternoon. The Broncos have made just

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Speaker 1: a few moves, relatively minor moves bring them back Lucas Croll,

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Speaker 1: Matt Henningsen and Adam Prentiss on one year contracts. That's

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Speaker 1: to add to the additions that they've already made, which,

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Speaker 1: as we've been talking about quite a bit, is largely

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Speaker 1: their own players, not even largely all their own players.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen players and including their restricted free agents have we're

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Speaker 1: all on the team last year, and Broncos fans are

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Speaker 1: kind of having some mixed emotions and i'd say leaning

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Speaker 1: But you know, in a lot of ways, Nick, before

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Speaker 1: we get back to the text line, I think that

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Speaker 1: some of this is could have been predictable.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: First of all, at the combine George Peyton Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: they talked about openly how much they like their own guys.

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Speaker 1: They talked about how both Justin Sirnad and Alex Singleton

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Speaker 1: were Broncos right and they wanted to bring them back.

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Speaker 3: Same thing with JK. Dobbins.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that they didn't explore other options, but they

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Speaker 1: knew they had that as an option, and that's ultimately

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Speaker 1: why they did this. And we played the cut earlier

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Speaker 1: from Sean Payton talking about couches as he relates to

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Speaker 1: free agency and the difference between the couches that you

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Speaker 1: couches you bring in that are new and maybe not

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Speaker 3: We've seen plenty of examples of that, even Drake green Law.

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Speaker 1: It is a great example of a guy you brought

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Speaker 1: it's predictable that he got hurt again and couldn't play

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Speaker 1: a whole season, but they brought him in and he

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Speaker 1: after the season he was complaining a little bit to

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Speaker 1: the media about the practice schedule. So that was an

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Speaker 1: example to Sean's point of a guy you brought in

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Speaker 1: wasn't everything you hoped he'd be.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about it. Get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: for a moment again, people five six six nine zero.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm that upset it, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's because I'm still holding out a belief that there's

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Speaker 1: more to come, that this is really early in the process.

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Speaker 3: Is that flawed.

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Speaker 4: Flawed? Hmmm, I'll say for right now it is.

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Speaker 5: But listen, I understand the argument for Ironside because this

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Speaker 5: is time of the year where you're hoping your team

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Speaker 5: makes somewhat of a splash that you can just kind

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Speaker 5: of go out and temporarily celebrate like you won free agency.

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Speaker 4: And last time I checked, they.

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Speaker 5: Don't give out, you know, Bombardi Trophies for winning the offseason.

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Speaker 4: That's not how this works.

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Speaker 5: But I understand the Broncos side looking at what they

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Speaker 5: were able to do in bo Nixon's second year, because

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Speaker 5: I mean, let me know if I'm missing something, but

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Speaker 5: I didn't have the Broncos doing what they did. I

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Speaker 5: had them winning maybe ten eleven games. And that's not

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Speaker 5: me saying, Okay, well I had a lack of disbelief.

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Speaker 5: I just know how difficult it is to win games

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Speaker 5: in his league. But for the Broncos to do what

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Speaker 5: they did, and someone can argue, well, you didn't have

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Speaker 5: those two pieces now that have been the Broncos playing

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Speaker 4: In the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if the Broncos win based on

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Speaker 5: how well that Mike McDonald defense was playing for the

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Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks, but I mean, I can see someone envisioning

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Speaker 5: that and the Broncos doing the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Why don't we run it.

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Speaker 5: Back with the guys that we know, because to bring

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Speaker 5: other players in there, even though that sounds great, but

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Speaker 5: we want to reward the guys that are in our building.

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Speaker 1: And there's no guarantee that the new guys you bring

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Speaker 1: an upgrade. I think it's a message, but maybe just

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Speaker 5: Well, well yeah, but there's still no guarantee with the

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Speaker 1: That's very fair and and Sewn's even acknowledge that we

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Speaker 1: said we can't continue to expect to win the same way, right.

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Speaker 5: So you want to look at your guys, But what

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Speaker 5: it also says to guys who are free agents elsewhere

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Speaker 4: Job, they want to bring you back.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's something to be said about that

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Speaker 4: Keep that in mind.

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Speaker 5: You want to make sure that you are retaining your

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Speaker 5: We didn't see a lot of red zone targets for

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Speaker 5: it was what National tight Ends Day. Everyone was eating

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Speaker 5: from a tight end standpoint, and then it just went away.

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Speaker 5: So could this mean that Davis Webb is going to

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Speaker 4: That we're going to see one of his buddies, ev

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Speaker 4: An Ingram the.

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Speaker 5: Love of Production, looking a whole lot different in twenty

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Speaker 4: If that's what you want to tell me, that's.

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Speaker 5: What you want to sell to me, fine, but I'm

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Speaker 5: just want to see if these guys who they're bringing back,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what I was talking about a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the copium right of saying, well, it's a

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Speaker 5: I gotta ask the question, is copium is the same

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind the same thing. It's just sort of

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Speaker 4: Sound like to talk myself into stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying it's a way to frame things

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Speaker 1: of things, Like I frame things on why I don't

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Speaker 3: In my house. I'm happier with that one.

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Speaker 1: I frame that in my head, even though I do

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Speaker 1: it's just framing. That's also we're framing this free agent class.

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Speaker 1: But the Broncos have largely and again not largely, all

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Speaker 1: Some people are framing it in a way that is

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Speaker 1: certainly negative that they don't they don't believe in, and

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Speaker 1: they don't like the way that the Broncos have addressed

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Speaker 1: this because they felt like, what should be aggressive. This

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Speaker 1: Justin Sirnaud, I think they're they're starting caliber caliber inside linebackers.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they aren't Wave one guys. Maybe then we're like

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: It makes sense to me.

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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna use you're framing term when I talk

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Speaker 4: See, it's not that Dad is doing something wrong. I'm

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Speaker 4: framing it right. I'm framing it in a way that

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Speaker 3: We do that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's what we do.

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Speaker 5: And look at the two linebackers, Alex Singleton and Justice Shreannard.

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Speaker 5: The idea is that, yes, everyone had their heart set

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Speaker 4: They wanted that guy.

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Speaker 5: They fellows of That guy would have made the Broncos

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Speaker 4: So I don't think it's bad having both Justice Sernard.

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Speaker 5: And Alex Singleton back. What I would say is the

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Speaker 5: Broncos need to show up the depth on the team

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Speaker 5: I believe that the Broncos need to go out and

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Speaker 5: But vance Joseph can use his skill set to make

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Speaker 1: A couple of texts here five six six nine zero. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Jens Connor and Denver, curious if you think the Broncos

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Speaker 1: could be in on Brian Thomas Junior or A J. Brown.

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Speaker 1: If so, potential comp required feels like in Joeku's solving

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Speaker 1: Love the show well, I would like to believe. And

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Speaker 1: I saw something from DMVR earlier today with Baldy saying

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Speaker 1: that there's some mutual interest with AJ Brown and the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: I know, I haven't heard anything else otherwise about that,

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Speaker 1: and I haven't. I haven't heard anything besides him saying

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Speaker 1: that I would absolutely be in on either of those players.

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Speaker 1: The Brian Thomas Junior thing has been really weird because

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Speaker 1: on one hand, you got to report out of New

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Speaker 1: saying Nope, that's still not a thing today. The guy

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Speaker 1: down saying that no, they're they're looking for a like

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Speaker 1: absolutely do that, like in a heartbeat, because he I

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Speaker 1: think he has wide receiver one upside. He certainly showed

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Speaker 3: See, I think Brian.

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Speaker 4: And that's kind of.

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Speaker 5: The way that I look at it, because if you

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Speaker 4: What does that value look like?

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Speaker 4: Hell happened to Cortland Sun? And then it flipped back

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Speaker 5: But still, when I look at the Broncos wide receiver room,

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Speaker 4: No disrespect to any of those.

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Speaker 5: No, I know, we found so much so that your

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Speaker 1: Seems like we're trying to trade green lawn and news there.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They didn't put him on the waiver report today. They

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Speaker 3: maybe they floated out there. They're gonna release them.

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Speaker 1: This happens all the time where teams will float out there,

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Speaker 3: And that happens all the time.

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Speaker 5: That's great business by George Fayden. Obviously a guy didn't

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Speaker 5: And it's funny because it makes you wonder those comments

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Speaker 4: In those comments.

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Speaker 5: But I would hate the thing that that kind of

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Speaker 4: To the Titans to rejoin Roberts Allen. There's some opportunities

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Speaker 3: It makes some sense. Okay. So before you get the

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Speaker 3: Classic at all?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm and lost it to Italy USA.

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Speaker 3: Listen to Italy.

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Speaker 4: How did they not know what the rules were?

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 1: So we have the manager Mark DeRosa who said on

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Speaker 3: So they lose eight to six.

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Speaker 1: And and I'm bringing this up because Mexico and Italy

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Speaker 4: A ton of respect for Italy. It's weird. We want

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Speaker 6: Even though our tickets punched at a quarterfinals because Mexico

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Speaker 1: So what we found out later was they actually hadn't

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Speaker 1: That made it eighty six, Aaron Judge striking out to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I misspoke. I was on hot stove with a

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Speaker 1: Tough look, tough look under circumstances. So all is not lost,

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Speaker 3: The weird kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: So, so Mexico, if they win like four to one

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Speaker 3: they're in. The US is in.

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Speaker 1: So five or more runs from Mexico, US is in.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter whenter lose five or more runs.

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Speaker 1: But if it's less than five runs and Mexico.

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Speaker 4: They're in. Yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 3: There's there's multi paths here, but just oh my god,

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Speaker 3: for well, you're rooting for Italy to win, to win, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that would be the cleanest way to make sure.

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Speaker 5: That Mexico scores less than five.

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Speaker 1: Runs, no more. We will four more than five runs

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Speaker 1: what's weird about this whole thing is they could go

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Speaker 5: About Mexico and Italy gentleman's agreement keeping the US out.

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Speaker 4: The case that's not a good sportsmanship.

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Speaker 3: You would say he's out.

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Speaker 4: That's not good sportsmanships.

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Speaker 3: Ryan, I'm not.

447
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Speaker 1: It's not me commenting on sportsmanship or anything. I'm just

448
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,919
Speaker 1: saying this is what they could do. Now we're in

449
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,640
Speaker 1: the end the first inning. It's zero zero right now

450
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 1: between Italy and Mexico. So we'll keep track of this.

451
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Speaker 5: Would they hate the US that bad to say that

452
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,880
Speaker 5: we're gonna make a gentleman's agreement?

453
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Speaker 1: Well, let me say, like this, you have a chance

454
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: to keep out probably the best team in the tournament.

455
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 1: You have that option, like they could they could eliminate

456
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Speaker 1: USA if they just play this game out and.

457
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Speaker 3: Don't score a lot of runs and Mexico wins.

458
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Speaker 5: Hey, yet, we would have another controversy to talk about tomorrow.

459
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Speaker 1: That would be That would be because especially if it

460
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Speaker 1: ends up looking like that, like it kind of looks

461
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Speaker 1: like they just said, you know, hey, look we don't

462
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Speaker 1: don't don't.

463
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Speaker 3: Try to you.

464
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Speaker 1: We'll just kind of play this thing out and maybe

465
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Speaker 1: get Mexico one nothing lead or a win, and then

466
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Speaker 1: then we're going as long as.

467
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Speaker 5: They don't make it appear to be obvious, like then

468
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Speaker 5: they both advanced like the bad News Bears.

469
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Speaker 3: All right, be bad, All right, we'll come back. More

470
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Speaker 3: on Broncos free agency.

471
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Speaker 1: H plus what happened with Nate McKinnon getting ejected last night?

472
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was a mess. My kept man points,

473
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: Dave are starting to make a little more sense. I

474
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Speaker 1: want to talk about Travis Kelce being a kept man

475
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: or he should be a captain man. Yeah, he decided,

476
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Speaker 1: of course, come back and play the Chiefs, to play

477
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Speaker 1: the chief And I don't know why.

478
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Speaker 4: But yeah, you you tried to run him out of

479
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: the league before he even played.

480
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Speaker 1: Last year, desperately, right, Well, but I have a good

481
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Speaker 1: reason for that.

482
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Speaker 2: Guys that are competitive and can still play, you want

483
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Speaker 2: to play as long as you can play.

484
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Speaker 4: You don't want, you don't You don't agree.

485
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Speaker 1: I completely agree, I totally understand it. I'm saying that

486
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Speaker 1: he's been Once you're done, it's it's over.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah done.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been a nightmare for the Broncos. So maybe Okay,

489
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Speaker 1: it's a little self serving. Yeah, it's it's it's a

490
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: bit self serving. I'll acknowledge that. I think you'd agree.

491
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey has been a nightmare for the BRONXO.

492
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Speaker 4: He's been a nightmare for about everybody. That's right. He's

493
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Speaker 4: certainly he's put up good numbers against demver so.

494
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Speaker 3: I was trying to speak it into existence?

495
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Speaker 4: Is that? Is that what you were doing? Yeah?

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was wrong. Well it didn't happen. Don't

497
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Speaker 1: save that all right? Five six six ninety zero. By

498
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Speaker 1: the way, go Italy of one nothing here we go.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tad bit of a cluster, isn't it.

500
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Speaker 3: We were just talking about it, Yeah, man, I was.

501
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Speaker 2: I was not actually talking to a couple of people

502
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Speaker 2: about our last conversation, okay, concerning your wife and all

503
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: that hopefully got rather interesting to go. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

504
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 2: all good.

505
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Speaker 4: But I'm sorry I stepped away from the show for

506
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Speaker 4: just a minute.

507
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Speaker 3: Did he seriously give up this?

508
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Speaker 4: That was? That was kind of there?

509
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Speaker 2: There was I would say I would categorize it as

510
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Speaker 2: a little bit of concern for you to want to

511
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Speaker 2: make sure everything was okay.

512
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Speaker 4: I said, no, no, we're.

513
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Speaker 3: Just you know, he did you say he blinks twice?

514
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: He told both Nick and I in only the way

515
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Speaker 2: Ryan can communicate with.

516
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Speaker 3: Us that he was fine. So it's all good. We're

517
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Speaker 3: all good.

518
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But Italy, we're at the bottom of the second inning.

519
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: We need Italy to win, or if Mexico.

520
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 4: Win, Box needs Italy to win.

521
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're talking about the tight Spiners, right,

522
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Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god. If the team USA it's

523
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Speaker 1: bounced because and because they would have didn't know the rules.

524
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Speaker 1: Oh god, that last night very quickly for the ass

525
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Speaker 1: they lose the game, which is certainly a bummer to

526
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Speaker 1: lose to Edmonton. But Jared Bednar talking about Nathan McKinnon's ejection,

527
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Speaker 1: what'd you think about that? What'd you think about McKinnon's

528
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: ejection getting that major?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a weak call. Me too, I mean,

530
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Speaker 2: right to the point I did. I didn't. Yeah, I'm

531
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Speaker 2: I am far from a hockey expert. Again, I really

532
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Speaker 2: love watching it, especially as they get ready for the playoffs,

533
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Speaker 2: and but I I couldn't believe that was the call.

534
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Speaker 4: What'd you think? Oh?

535
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Speaker 3: I thought it was incredibly weak.

536
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Speaker 1: I mean, your goal, the goalie gets hurts right, he's

537
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: bleeding like and I understand for the NHL that tends

538
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Speaker 1: to that's a major, like this is an automatic major.

539
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: And because this goalie interference, they ejected him. But it's

540
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: very clear that Nurse knocked McKinnon into the goalie. And

541
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Speaker 1: if you look and again, I want to get like

542
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: two into the weeds here, but if you look at

543
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Speaker 1: the angle of the skates, there's an angle where he's

544
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: clearly trying to avoid the goalie.

545
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Speaker 3: But here's Jared Bednoll. After the game, I thought this

546
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Speaker 3: was awesome.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, first thing I looked at for me, I look

548
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Speaker 8: at the overhead. He makes the play on the puck,

549
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Speaker 8: and I got his toes cutting up ice, probably through

550
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Speaker 8: the top of the paint, and Ingram's on the goal line.

551
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Speaker 8: I don't think there's a chance. There's no chance that

552
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Speaker 8: he hits the goalie. If Nurse doesn't run into him,

553
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Speaker 8: he's not hitting the goalie. So to me, I look

554
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Speaker 8: at that and it's like I checked the overhead first,

555
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Speaker 8: he's gonna go where his toes are pointed, and they're

556
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Speaker 8: going to the top of the crease with Ingram in

557
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Speaker 8: the bottom of the crease until nurse makes contact with

558
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Speaker 8: him and that's what causes a c So to me,

559
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Speaker 8: that's like I'm looking at that right away. I don't

560
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Speaker 8: care if he's injured not injured. It's a severe crash,

561
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Speaker 8: not a severe crash. It's not a penalty you put

562
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Speaker 8: if you put guys in your own goalie, it's not

563
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Speaker 8: a penalty. That's why I see it.

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Speaker 4: Battle card to one.

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Speaker 9: What did you get any sort of explanation from the

566
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Speaker 9: officiating about the same of me?

567
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Speaker 8: No, well, not not a good one. The goalies heard,

568
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Speaker 8: So it's five again. I really don't give a crap.

569
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Speaker 8: It's a goalies heard. That's that's on their d man,

570
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Speaker 8: not on our guy.

571
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Speaker 3: That last part I really don't give a crap is

572
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Speaker 3: their goalies heard.

573
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Speaker 4: Spoke like a true coach, Like a true coach.

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Speaker 2: It actually cleaned it up as he delivered it, because

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Speaker 2: there are very few people that I know that if

576
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Speaker 2: you wanted to make that point, that the word crap

577
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Speaker 2: would be used instead of the other word. So I

578
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Speaker 2: credit him for cleaning it up on.

579
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Speaker 4: The How well do you think that you could.

580
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Speaker 5: Have managed that moment, Dave, like right after game and

581
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Speaker 5: it's situation, Oh gosh, I mean, did you have.

582
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Speaker 3: Done I don't know, you just lost got ejected?

583
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Bednar's had a lot of experience at it.

584
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 2: He's been a head coach for a long time. So

585
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: there you see some of these coaches go into a

586
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: rant and it's an expletive filled rant, and.

587
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: And there are times when you look at it on.

588
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Speaker 2: Sports Center, either that night or the next morning or whatever,

589
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: and you're thinking, Okay, how much of that do I

590
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: believe was really contrived? Like you meant to say all

591
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: the stuff you said that you knew was going to

592
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: get bleeped?

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Speaker 4: Right?

594
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 2: So, but I think I've actually, I'm trying to think

595
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Speaker 2: with coach Bednar, I really have you ever heard him

596
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Speaker 2: in a postgame situation swear like instead of using the

597
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: word crap uses the word it starts with an ass.

598
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that I really heard him him swear.

599
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either.

600
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 5: I've Michael alone, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and I listened.

601
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Speaker 5: I was.

602
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Speaker 2: I mean I was and still am a big fan

603
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Speaker 2: of his. I think he was a hell of a coach.

604
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: I admired the fact that he uh now, maybe he

605
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: went overboard, and we can we could debate that for

606
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: an entire show. But I like the fact that he

607
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: held his players to a certain level of accountability, challenge them.

608
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 4: Was he perfect?

609
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: No?

610
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Speaker 2: Did he make mistakes sometimes in postgame press conferences where

611
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: you wish you wouldn't have said this and this, Yes,

612
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: But I just liked his competitive fire.

613
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 4: I thought he was a really good coach. Stupid ask questions.

614
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: I wonder And this isn't some kind of hot take

615
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: or saying that I'm out on David Ademans, and I'm

616
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: certainly not. But if they have a an early exit,

617
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: there might be a lot of people backtracking some of

618
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: their feelings.

619
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Speaker 3: And I might even be one of them about Michael

620
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: Malone because I have been. I've been out on Michael

621
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: Malone for a while.

622
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: I was out on him for some of the things

623
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: he did, as far as the keeping the guys in

624
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: and being exhausted at the end of the year, not

625
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: trusting some of the depths that Calvin Booth had built him,

626
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: some of the younger players, not getting them more minutes,

627
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: putting yourself in a bad situation in the postseason. But

628
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: then we're seeing the way this team is kind of

629
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: falling apart.

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Speaker 3: Like tonight's game.

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Speaker 1: This is a this is a massive, massive game for

632
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: the Nuggets against Houston. If this is a borderline must win,

633
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: and I know that that's a silly thing to say

634
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: because mathematically it's not true. But you got to have

635
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: this one. You're you're You're two and one on the

636
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: season with Houston. Okay, if you lose this one, you're

637
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: gonna you're the tie breaker is gone, right, So now

638
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna and that might matter in the standings.

639
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: We'll get to this thing.

640
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 5: But this is why when Michael Malone was here, a

641
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 5: lot of people gave him a lot of flag and

642
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 5: vicer y'all because what he would say in his postgame presses.

643
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 5: And I was right there with him, and I'm like, yeah,

644
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 5: talk that trash coach.

645
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 4: Give it to him because he needed his.

646
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 5: Players to hear that because he was trying to get

647
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 5: the most out of them.

648
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: David Halliman taking over, being as.

649
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: Though he coached with you know, coach Malone, what's the

650
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: difference in what we're seeing with the Nuggets. They're still

651
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 5: not playing defense. And that's been one of the things

652
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 5: that Michael Malong used to talk about all the time.

653
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 5: You got a new head coach and you got a

654
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 5: new GM, but you hadn't really changed a whole hell

655
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 5: of a lot.

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00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: And you're right, tonight is a huge game.

657
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 5: But the one thing that gets me is that as

658
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 5: great as Nicola Jokich is, I don't know what's going

659
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 5: on with him and his turnovers.

660
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: That's a big that's a big issue.

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Speaker 1: You realize the Nuggets are only one game ahead of

662
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: the play in Right now, they're eleven and a half back.

663
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Phoenix is twelve and a half.

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Speaker 5: What's this like, seventeen games left in the regular season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sixteen sixteen seventeen. You're right, Math's not my thing.

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Speaker 1: I usually leave that up to.

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Speaker 4: Dave Math lazy boys just not your thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Dave's wise.

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Speaker 4: I'm here for you.

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Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time early in the show

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Speaker 1: talking about the Max Crosby tobocle. I heard a little

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Speaker 1: bit of your breakdown with Steve last night because it

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Speaker 1: was all very fresh. Now that you've had like twenty

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Speaker 1: four hours to react to it or hear things about it,

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Speaker 1: where do you land on it?

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Speaker 9: Well, as you well knew prior to that. You know,

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Speaker 9: during the break before that show, I knew the reason why,

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Speaker 9: And now we have all that. I'm trying to think

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Speaker 9: the best way to put this there is it's a

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Speaker 9: combination of things. First of all, he really does have

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Speaker 9: a miniscus sdanwage on his knee. The Ravens also have

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Speaker 9: cold feet. They you know, when you can get Trey

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Speaker 9: Hendrickson in two first rounders or Max Crosby, I think

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Speaker 9: you're probably taking Trey Hendrickson in your two first rounders,

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Speaker 9: especially for an organization that has never traded first rounders.

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Speaker 9: They literally had never traded first rounders ever. They believe

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Speaker 9: in their process in the draft, and I think they

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Speaker 9: just got cold feet with the idea of this is

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Speaker 9: something that's going to be degenerative, how many years do

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Speaker 9: we have, how many years is this going to be?

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Speaker 9: Is this really worth this? And I think they just

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Speaker 9: got cold feet, and as an organization's that's on them.

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Speaker 5: They backed out like someone leaving you at the altar, right,

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Speaker 5: all that promise, family, all there, and.

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Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, you know what, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to do this anymore. I want my lazy boy.

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Speaker 3: She's yeah, good reference, good reference.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I still I mean we had ian on and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Dave what he was trying to promote the

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Speaker 1: idea that the Ravens were interested in keeping both Max

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Speaker 1: Crosby and Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 3: But I'm still having a hard time with that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't quite understand the other than to appease

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson by saying, listen, we didn't view you as

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Speaker 2: the number two guy. We were trying to go out

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Speaker 2: and get both of you. But is that really necessary

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Speaker 2: when I mean it's the NFL. These are grown men.

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Speaker 2: When you go out and give a guy what was

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Speaker 2: Henderson's final total twenty million per twenty eight million? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I mean, how but hurt? Can you be that

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Speaker 2: you were going to give Max Crosby thirty and you're

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Speaker 2: already gonna give me twenty eight?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean that's still the thing day because some players

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Speaker 5: feel as though, well I should have been probably number one.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, twenty eight millions.

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Speaker 2: My response to that if Trey said, you know, I

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Speaker 2: really was a little bit upset and I couldn't believe

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Speaker 2: you're going.

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Speaker 4: To make twenty eight million. Twenty eight million? Right? How

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Speaker 4: many zeros is that? Ryan? It's six six six. There

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Speaker 4: you go.

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Speaker 1: I get nervous every time you ask me any number

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Speaker 1: because I was accounting money. Well, there's just like this

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Speaker 1: moment of like, yeah, I feel like it's a trick question.

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Speaker 3: It's probably not.

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Speaker 1: No, no, yes, just a lot of zeros. Italy up

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Speaker 1: to nothing. By the way, Italy, I don't know any

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Speaker 1: Italian terms. Now I know Mexican spaghetti. What that's an

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Speaker 1: Italian term? And of course he says that, right, Nick,

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Speaker 1: always great, Senior, My friend, pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Is all mine. At some point, we need to go

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Speaker 4: shopping for that lazy boy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just here, just don't tell just don't tell him.

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Speaker 5: Well, we were not talking about you, then, just don't.

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Speaker 5: We were talking about lazy last you know the world.

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Speaker 4: That you work in.

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Speaker 3: Grant, great job, appreciate it. We're gonna rick Lewis the

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Speaker 3: Street with us tomorrow, but BCT next