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Speaker 1: That of course is Gary Levitt. I'm sorry I misread

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Speaker 1: am I wrong?

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Speaker 6: You're nailed at Jeff. I want to emphasize on one point,

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Speaker 6: and I think this is really good information for the

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Speaker 6: listening audience. Here's the deal. A lot of what I'm

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Speaker 6: hearing the views is misinformation. And guess where the source

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Speaker 6: is coming from. Facebook. People aren't reaching out to Newsmax

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Speaker 6: or Fox or podcasts or Jeff Coooner or whatever source

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Speaker 6: is giving the truth about this administration what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: They're all talking amongst themselves on Facebook. And I had

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Speaker 6: something with my sister about that and with Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 6: as a matter of fact, she said, oh, I can't

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Speaker 6: stand that guy.

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Speaker 5: Now, this is a.

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Speaker 6: Devout Christian that loves the Lord. And she went up

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Speaker 6: one side down the other when I mentioned Charlie Kirk's

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Speaker 6: depth and it was all because of what she heard

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Speaker 6: on Facebook. Social media is a sinful place. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: It's not the it's not the resource that people should

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Speaker 6: be using to get the facts about what's happening in

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Speaker 6: the world or in the country or in Trump's administration.

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Speaker 6: You need to go to stronger, more factual sources. And

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Speaker 6: I think people need to step back because if that's

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Speaker 6: their source for their information, well guess what, it's their

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Speaker 6: mis information that's polluting them and putting out all this toxic,

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00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 6: unnecessary hatred. That's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's pure hatred. No, no, you're dead on Jack brilliant.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, absolutely brilliant. It is pure hatred. And

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Speaker 1: the thing about social media, remember it's intense, right, social media,

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Speaker 1: social media, it's intent, it's how it was sold to

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Speaker 1: us that this was going to bring people together. This

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Speaker 1: was going to be like a virtual community where we

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Speaker 1: would come together like what the Italians called the piazza,

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Speaker 1: like the public square, right, that people would come together

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Speaker 1: like in a beautiful Italian piazza, sip some coffee and

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Speaker 1: everybody just talks. But we're gonna do it obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: on a computer or a laptop or whatever. But this

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Speaker 1: is going to bring everybody together. It's the opposite. It's

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Speaker 1: tearing us apart. And because it's toxic, it's it's pewing lies, bile, hatred,

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Speaker 1: forget even misinf you're right, it's misinformation and disinformation. But

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Speaker 1: it's hate the other side, in particular, hate conservatives, hate Trump,

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Speaker 1: hate Maga, hate anybody that disagrees with the left. And

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Speaker 1: it's always to the worst. It's not even they're just wrong, No, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not enough. They're evil, they're immoral, they're white supremacists,

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Speaker 1: they're Nazis. It's dehumanization, and you keep, you know, and

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Speaker 1: click and click and click and click, and you keep

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Speaker 1: doing this over and over and over. You can't sit

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Speaker 1: down and have a civil conversation over God over Christmas.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's even worse than that. It's you can't

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Speaker 1: sit down over Christmas and not rage at your fellow

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Speaker 1: family member because of who they voted for. To me,

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Speaker 1: you can't even say, no, okay, look, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: keep quiet. Let's just keep quiet. They can't, they just

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Speaker 1: they can't. They just can't do it Jack, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much for that call or whatever. You voted for Trump? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: Well like in other words, I notice liberals never say

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Speaker 1: but why, like no, I'm just curious, but why it's

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Speaker 1: right away, you voted for Trump while you're a racist.

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Speaker 1: Well you voted for Trump? Oka, kkay, why don't you

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Speaker 1: ask me why? It may shock you here? Under Biden inflation,

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Speaker 1: I just I can't pay the bills. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: everything doubled under Biden. Yeah. Whether you think who to

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Speaker 1: blame is, it doesn't matter it. The grocery bills are

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Speaker 1: too high, gas doubled, just everything. I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: I can't pay my bills. I'm literally living hand to mouth.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much longer I can survive. So

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Speaker 1: I got to give Trump a shot at you know,

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Speaker 1: the economy under Trump, I'm sorry, it was better, at

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Speaker 1: least for me it was better. So I'm thinking of me,

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Speaker 1: you know, my spouse, my kids, yep, yep, yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot of crime, A lot of illegals

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Speaker 1: came in under Biden. And you know, a woman in

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Speaker 1: our community was raped and another child was molested. And no,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't want to live like that. So

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Speaker 1: it's for me, it's an issue of public safety. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I mean, that's the kind of answers you get,

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Speaker 1: or what you often also get, is I'm serious. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's going to reshore industry, he's going to start putting

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Speaker 1: tariffs because all these free trade deals. We had a

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Speaker 1: big plant and it employed a lot of people, but

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Speaker 1: now they're gone. The whole plant got outsourced to Mexico

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Speaker 1: or to China or to you know, Vietnam or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and we've lost seven thousand jobs. And I can't get work.

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00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: My husband can't get work. We're unemployed. We have no future.

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Speaker 1: Our house, the value of our house has collapsed. There's

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Speaker 1: fentodel now everywhere because there's no economic hope. So yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I voted. I voted to bring manufacturing and jobs back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's why. Yeah. No, I'm just tired of all

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Speaker 1: the wars. We're just our soldiers are dying nimed and

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Speaker 1: twenty years in Afghanistan. Look at the disaster under Biden,

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Speaker 1: look at the disaster under Iraq where World War three

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Speaker 1: potentially between Russia and Ukraine. I just I don't want

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Speaker 1: to see our soldiers getting killed anymore in these pointless

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Speaker 1: endless wars. Yeah, that's the three. Yeah, that's the reason.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like, oh, so you're not a hip

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Speaker 1: or lover. No hold on, you mean you don't want

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Speaker 1: to put black people in chains? What hold on? Are

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Speaker 1: you an admirer of Vladimir Putin?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: They never ask, They just assume and they go right

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Speaker 1: away to the absolute worst possible motive six seven two

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Speaker 1: sixty six sixty eight sixty eight. Dan in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Dan, and welcome.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking the call, Jeff, my pleasure. I had

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Speaker 4: a pretty interesting Thanksgiving myself. We do have a moonba

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Speaker 4: in a family and she lives on the moon. And

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Speaker 4: I was told by my daughter, I'll be nice, you know,

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Speaker 4: don't bring up any politics. I says, okay, honey, I

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Speaker 4: won't do that. I won't do that. So I don't

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Speaker 4: know how it happened, but I ended up sitting beside

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Speaker 4: Dorothy and very promptly she pissed me off about en

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Speaker 4: lodging my garden too close to the property line of

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Speaker 4: my daughter's house. That, of course I I gave the

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Speaker 4: deposit on to help buy the house. Of course, so

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Speaker 4: she's telling me that I don't want to get that

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00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 4: garden too close and this and that, and I says,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm going to slip these gloves off. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: you know she can. She's not doing so well. She's

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Speaker 4: you know, struggling. So I said, uh, I look at her,

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Speaker 4: and I said, how you feeling? She goes, uh mets

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Speaker 4: some metza, metsa mezza. I said, yeah, you know, you

542
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: really don't look so good. Says uh, you know that.

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Speaker 4: I think that dimension, the dementia, in the in the

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Speaker 4: Alzheimer's catching up to you. So she looks at me

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Speaker 4: right in the eye, and I says, and I stop laughing.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't mean it. I don't mean it,

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Speaker 4: but I meant it. And so she's going on and on,

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00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: and I said, uh, you know, how do you think

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00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 4: Trump's doing? And she goes, I can't stand him, and

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00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: she's going on and she's lighting off and everything. I said, well,

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00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: you know, I brought up a couple of things.

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Speaker 6: What about the border?

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Speaker 4: What about this? What about that? Oh, they don't show

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Speaker 4: you they're invading the border. They're invading the border. And

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00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 4: she's you know, she's going right at him and everything.

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00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: I says, well, what do you think of Caroline love

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Speaker 4: It and she goes, she's up paid, now, mind you,

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00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 4: Caroline love It is my cousin. And I got a

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Speaker 4: little and I got a little ruffled on that one.

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Speaker 4: And I says, well, if you keep talking like that,

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to have to go over and turn

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Speaker 4: your oxygen tank off. And she looked at me again.

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00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: I said, oh, I just kidding. I'm just kidding. I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't do such a thing. And so we're going on

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Speaker 4: and on and she's basically, you know, kind of a

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Speaker 4: you know, nasty, no humor, old biddy. I guess that's

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00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: a good way to wrap it up. Just an old biddy. Dan.

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Speaker 4: I'm right here. Yeah, I said, you must think that

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Speaker 4: I'm a Nazi.

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Speaker 1: Oh you said that to her? Yeah, okay, what does

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Speaker 1: she say?

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Speaker 4: She said, well, you could be, and I said, well,

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Speaker 4: you know, to be honest with you, I didn't. I'd

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Speaker 4: love to show you my my my my book of

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Speaker 4: non cough and I just got my Nazi flag and

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Speaker 4: the mail.

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Speaker 1: Oh dad, this is priceless, you know, I said, that's

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Speaker 1: a great way to handle him. I gotta say