1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: You're listenings KF I am six forty the bill handles 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: show on demand on the iheartradiop. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: Good morning, my friend, and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: the house Whisper, custom home Builder, custom home Designer and 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: every week your guide to better understanding that place where 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: you live. It is an all call Saturday morning. It's 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: just a few minutes after seven o'clock here on the 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: West Coast in southern California. Looks to be I guess 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: another gusty, windy day, which should be happening near the 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: end of summer, but is happening at the beginning of spring. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: So I don't know. Go figure. I hope the weather 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: is treating you well wherever you are. And welcome to 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: the program. We are taking calls today like we do 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: every Saturday morning. The number to reach me is eight 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: three three two. Ask Dean eight three three the numeral 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: two and then you just spell out to ask Dean 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: eight three three two Ask Dean. It's just that simple. 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 2: Anything that's got you scratching your head about your home, 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: all right, let's get back to the phones, shall we. Uh, 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: let's talk to Susie. Hey, Susie, Welcome home. 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: I good morning. You wake us up every every weekend. 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, I'll talk quieter. 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: No, no, no, we love the music makes our hearts 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: feel good and our copies perking, and we can ask 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: and listen to you. My problem is our house was 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: built in the early fifties, and my husband and I 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: were born in the early fifties, so everything around here 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: is old. And we got a jacuzzie for one person, 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: you know, just a single and it's in our old house. 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: And we only use the jets on the weekend and 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: when when my son can help my husband get in, 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: you know, just to sit in there and enjoy the jets. 33 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: The rest of the time, we just take showers in 34 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: the morning. And and there's a funky like sewer smell 35 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: that comes out of the jets when we do turn 36 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: them on. And like I said, they're used maybe once 37 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: once a week, but even when we're not using them, 38 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: when you're sitting there, you can kind of smell just 39 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: it's not terrible, but it just makes you really uncomfortable, 40 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: like what's you know, what's in there? And the thing 41 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: is only maybe a year and a half old, and 42 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: so what can I what can I put? Like me 43 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: we're at an acid or I don't know what would 44 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: hurt it, but I know we need to clean them 45 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: out because when they do start, some black stuff comes out. 46 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah that's horrible. 47 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's okay, I got you. Okay, So here's 48 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: what's happening. Here's how to fix it. Are you ready? 49 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: Here we go. Why is it smelling? 50 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: Uh? 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: Jacuzzi tubs And I say Jacuzzi tubs, We're not. I 52 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, I don't want to get 53 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: sued by Jacuzzi. Jacuzzi is a brand name. But we'll 54 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: say jetted spa tubs. Okay, have internal plumbing. They've got 55 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: pipes and pumps and tubes and jets that hold water 56 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: even when the tub is empty, okay, because of the 57 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: because of the jetting system. So the fact of the 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: matter is this The most important thing for you guys 59 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: to know is that it has to be cleaned regularly 60 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: because even when you drain out the tub and you 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: dry it out and it's completely bone dry from the 62 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: way it looks, that tub in its plumbing system is 63 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: holding water and that water stands there or it's there 64 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: and go stagnant. Okay, the trapped water, the trapped water 65 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: grows a biofilm or a mold or mildew over time, 66 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: especially when the jets aren't run, you know, super regularly. Okay, 67 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: So first the thing is you clean the system and 68 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: you can. And this is the good news. Don't don't 69 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: use miratic acid. That'll destroy your tub. It'll mess it up. 70 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: But so it's a gentler approach, but but a more 71 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: thorough approach. So what you're gonna do is you're gonna 72 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: fill up the tub with hot water. You're gonna get 73 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: everything about two inches above the highest jets, okay, so 74 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: that the jets are totally submerged, and then you can 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: add you know, a few different kinds of cleaners. One 76 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: of the most efficient ways is to put in a 77 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: couple of tablespoons of dishwasher powder okay, like you know, 78 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: Cascade or something like that. Dishwasher Okay, not dish not 79 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: dishwashing liquid, not the stuff that you use in the sink, 80 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: but the the you because because you don't want your 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: jacuzzi sudsing up and putting SuDS, filling up the bathroom 82 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: with SuDS, so you want to use the no sudsing uh. 83 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: You know, soaps that you use in the dishwasher. Okay, 84 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: uh so, dishwasher powder, you know, about a half of 85 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: cup of plus about a half a cup of white vinegar. Okay, 86 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: so white regular household vinegar. That's an acid. That's the 87 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: only acid that you need to use. It's a gentle acid. 88 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: It's not going to damage the tub surface. It's not 89 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: going to damage the engine, but it is going to 90 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: damage the mildew and the build up and all of 91 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: that stuff. And so you know, my favorite little combo 92 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: is the dishwasher powder plus about a half of cup 93 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: of vinegar. Or you can go online and get some 94 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: dedicated jet tub cleaning stuff. There's a couple of brands 95 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: out there. One of them is called oh yuck, okay, 96 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: oh yuck, oh y uk, oh yuck. Or there's another one. 97 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what is with these names. Another one 98 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: is called awesome. Oh I mean, I'm sorry, a hh 99 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: dash some smy awesome or oh yuck. But here's the thing. 100 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: I would just go with the cascade and the and 101 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: the vinegar. Then you're gonna run the jets for fifteen 102 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: or twenty minutes. This is gonna flush out that that stuff. 103 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna see the dark flakes and gunk come out. 104 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: That's normal. That's a good sign. And then you drain 105 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: and refill the tub with cold water, run the jets 106 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: for another ten minutes or so to rinse it all out, 107 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: and then wipe it down. Now, if that doesn't solve it, 108 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: then do the whole thing again. Sometimes when something hasn't 109 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: been cleaned in quite a while, it might take two 110 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: or three cleaning cycles to get it done. But I 111 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: guarantee you the vinegar and the dishwasher soap in there 112 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: regularly run through is going to get rid of that 113 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: mildew smell. Because all you have to do is we 114 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: just got to kill the mildew that's hiding inside those 115 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: stagnant pipes that's been allowed to develop in there. We 116 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: do that and you're back to brand new and good 117 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: to go. 118 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: Oh it sounds wonderful. 119 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: I'm how often. 120 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: Should I do that? Well? 121 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: I think it would be a good I mean, if 122 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: you guys are using the tub that often, you know, 123 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: once every couple of months, maybe once every couple of months, 124 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: run it through its paces, so so the tub is 125 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: there to clean you and once every couple of months 126 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 2: you clean the tub. 127 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we love you guys. 128 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: Susie, thank you so much. She's so sweet o adorable. 129 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 2: Good luck on that. Yeah. By the way, y'all spat 130 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: with the jets and the systems, it's true of every 131 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: single one. They hold water even when even after the 132 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: bath is done, and so you think about it that way. 133 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: I know a lot of folks, probably most of the 134 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: folks that I know, who have spa tubs, rarely, if ever, 135 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: actually use the jet function. You should, even if you're 136 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: not going to use it, you should run those jets 137 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: at least, you know, once every couple of weeks, two 138 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: or three weeks. You should thoroughly run the jets with 139 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: nice clean hot water running through it and maybe a 140 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: little stuff just to keep that from happening, because it 141 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: will happen. Those tubs are designed to be used and 142 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: recirculate that water every couple three days, and in life practice, 143 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: I find that that rarely happens, and so lots of 144 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: people have complaints. That's why I had this right on 145 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: the tip of my tongue. Lots of people have complaints 146 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: about how their jet tub smells because they use it enough, 147 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: but not often enough. I mean, they use it once 148 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: in a while, but not often enough. And that's just 149 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: enough to keep the water sitting in there and getting 150 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: gucky and gross. So there you go, all right. When 151 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: we come back, more of your calls. The number to 152 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean your home 153 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. Dean Sharp, the house 154 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: Whisper here to help you take your home to the 155 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: next level. It's an all calls Saturday morning. Thanks for 156 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: joining us on the program. You get to set the 157 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: agenda for what we're talking about today as always, and 158 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: we've got calls on the board, so let's get back 159 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: to it. Let's see here. I want to talk to Michael. Hey, Michael, 160 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: welcome home. 161 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, Dean. Longtime listener, I mean decades. I'm a 162 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: native Californian, but now I'm talking to you from our 163 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: home in Waco, the Waco, Texas area. 164 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: Oh hey, hey, well thanks for listening. No, you haven't 165 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: listened for decades, because I've only been on for nine 166 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: and a half years. But I get I get it, 167 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: and so don't don't prematurely age me. Michael. I'm still 168 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: a young. 169 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Actually I'm referring to KFI. 170 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. There, God that's fine. That's that's great, great, 171 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: that's perfect. 172 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: So here I'm going to nutshell this I do. I 173 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: do home theater systems had for decades. Now, Okay, I've 174 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: been pre wiring houses for low voltage. I've held the 175 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: California license a C seven, done all the things. So 176 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is, all these years I've been 177 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: in many atticts, lots of addicts, and of course California 178 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: my year's there lots of the standard rolled or blown insulation, right, 179 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's over the room and all that. You 180 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, Yep, yep. So when I 181 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: got here to Texas, I couldn't believe that they really 182 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: they do the foam. They do the foam of the 183 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: of the upper shell and the walls, yep. 184 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 5: Right. 185 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: And of course the temperature differential when especially in the summer, 186 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: is incredible. I couldn't. It's like I was in heaven 187 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: the first attic I went up to when I started 188 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: working here in Texas. My question is is what you 189 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: know of the temperature differential? Because now when you go 190 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: to foam, there is now no insulation over the rooms themselves. 191 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: So I'm wondering about temperature. Shall I say leakage maybe. 192 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: And then some of these houses that I've been in 193 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: they have cavernous attic spaces. So I'm just wondering if 194 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: that if the temperature is what you know of the differential, 195 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: and how much economically and temperature wise foam the foam 196 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: shell to the standard each room has the insulation over 197 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: the ceiling. 198 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I I'm feeling you. I'm feeling you, and so 199 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: I want to I want to clarify it. So I 200 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: get it, and I got an answer for you. So 201 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: here's the thing, my friend, it's not it's not really 202 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: the magic of foam that that is making this happen. 203 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: Even though I totally appreciate your experience and I feel you, 204 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: I've had the same experiences going up in Addicts with 205 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: spray phone insulation versus you know, your typical California house 206 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: in which the ceiling or the floor of the attic 207 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: is what's insulated and you're roasting up there. So yes, 208 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: for those of us who often visit Addicts, yay for 209 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: spray phoam insulation. But that's but here's the thing. I 210 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: want to make a real clear clarification. A couple of things. 211 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: Number one, spray foam is is a a wonderful, wonderful product, 212 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: is far as I'm concerned. When it's applied properly, it 213 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: has some of its issues, has some moisture retention issues 214 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: that have to be presented, and so on. It is 215 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: the reason it's not common in homes across the country 216 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: is that it's expensive. It's more expensive than regular blown 217 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: in insulation or bats or things like that. But let 218 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: me be clear, the R value, that is the thermal 219 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: resistance value of spray foam versus regular blown in insulation 220 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: can be attained. I mean both can attain the same 221 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: R value. Okay, it takes more blown in because spray 222 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: foam is so dense. That's what's one of the nice 223 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: things about it is that it's clean and that it's dense, 224 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: and so it only takes a few inches of spray 225 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 2: foam to equal you know, several you know, fifteen sixteen 226 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: to twenty inches of blown in insulation. That doesn't mean 227 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: that a California how else with blown in insulation is 228 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: less energy efficient. It just means that it's a different system. 229 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: What you're experiencing is the difference between a conditioned attic 230 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: space home and a non conditioned attic space home. And 231 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: this is a it's not really about the spray foam, 232 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: even though that's the product that they use to achieve 233 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: this what it is, it's a different theory of insulating 234 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: a house. The theory of insulating house that is conditioned 235 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: space is growing in popularity, I hope. I've spoken about 236 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: it many times here on the show, especially in the 237 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: last couple of years. We're using it now in California, 238 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: like in Palm Springs. It's almost become a typical thing, Okay, 239 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: And it's simply, in my opinion, In my opinion, it's 240 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: simply a better system. And it comes down to this. 241 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: It comes down to that, where do we draw the 242 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: line between inside and outside air? Okay, So the in 243 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: the in the standard Building Code for the past, we 244 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: have basically said that the attic is technically outside. It's 245 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: technically outside because the level of insulation, the layer of 246 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: the shell of insulation that wraps the house occurs at 247 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: the floor of the attic, the top of the habitable 248 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: space right the last the highest ceiling of the habitable space, 249 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: and then that attic space is essentially outside. And so yeah, 250 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna climb it's uninsulated up there. It's gonna you know, 251 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: the heat of summer, it's going to be one hundred 252 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: and forty plus up there. 253 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 254 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: And then you know, so we have to vent it, 255 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: and we've got to blow that air out. We got 256 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: to keep it. 257 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 5: You know. 258 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: Moving a a a conditioned attic means that we're including 259 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: the attic as an internal conditioned air space with the 260 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: rest of the house. So the insulation is applied to 261 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: the rafters, the roofline, under the roofline, not the floor 262 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: of the attic. Okay, so the shell and the reason 263 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: why you climb up. So what I'm saying is when 264 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: you climb up into an attic in Texas and you're like, 265 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: it's lovely up here. Why can't we do this in California. 266 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: Well we can. It's simple, it's but the magic is 267 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: not the spray foam. What allows a house to have 268 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: a conditioned attic space is to be able to get 269 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: the proper r value of insulation in those rafters. And 270 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: that's why the spray foam is important, because rafters aren't 271 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: that deep. Okay, you can't pack nineteen inches of insulation 272 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: into like two by six rafters or two by four 273 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: trusses because there's just not enough depth. But the spray 274 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: phone can fit and get the job done in that space. 275 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is, yes, spray foam is a 276 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: great product, but the but the coolness that you're feeling 277 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: in the attic is not because spray foam is an 278 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: amazing product. It's simply the theory that wrapping the outer 279 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: shell of the house and allowing the attic to literally 280 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: be part of the conditioned airspace so that you know, 281 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: and it's always a teeny bit warmer and a teeny 282 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: bit cooler than the rest of the house but barely 283 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: in fact in extreme areas, will go ahead and design 284 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: the HVAC system so there's actually a duct feeding the 285 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: attic and a return up there in the attic. So literally, 286 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: if it's seventy two degrees in the rest of the 287 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: house and I crawl in the attic, it's seventy two 288 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: degrees in the attic. And there are a lot of 289 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: great reasons why California should ultimately adopt this system, not 290 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: only for guys like you, so you don't die in 291 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: my attic when you're up there running my speaker wires, 292 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: but more importantly, HVAC equipment up in the attic. You know, 293 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: there is no machine on the planet that doesn't prematurely 294 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: age by going through hot and cold cycles thirty degrees 295 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: during the winter, and then it gets up you know, 296 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: the heat, air and the air conditioner up there baking 297 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: in one hundred and forty degree temperature. It wears on circuits, 298 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 2: it wears on equipment. So the idea of having your 299 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: blower and your air handler and your furnace actually sitting 300 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: in seventy degree air is a beautiful thing. Also, the 301 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: duct work that runs in the attic doesn't have to 302 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: first start in the summer when at first when the 303 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: air conditioner first turns on by ejecting you know, one 304 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: hundred degree air out of the duct work into the house. 305 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: So that's another efficiency heat. And as you've heard me 306 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: harp so many times here on, you know, with fires 307 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: and wildfires, how every house that has a non conditioned attic, 308 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: which is most should have ember proof vents ventilating the 309 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: attic so that it so that that attic doesn't suck 310 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: embers into the attic and cause the house to catch 311 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: on fire during wildfire season. Well, the kind of conditioned 312 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: attic space that you're talking about has zero vents. There's 313 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: a very very very top vent that allows moisture accumulated 314 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: in the attic to get out, but otherwise it's ventless. 315 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: So this is a house that actually can't suck embers 316 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: into the attic, which makes it more fire safe. So 317 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: there's about five plus reasons why it's a great, great 318 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: idea and I think a far better system. However, right 319 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: now it's a more expensive system. And so getting builders 320 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: twisting their arms when technically code doesn't require them to, 321 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: that's the thing. But that's how the magic works there, Michael. 322 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: It's the spray foam is a component because not because 323 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: it's a miracle insulator, it just covers that same are 324 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 2: value in a smaller space. Therefore where we can use 325 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: it in the rafters. Therefore, uh, you can keep the 326 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: attic floor clean. 327 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: Well, Dean, another awesome explanation. I thank you so much. 328 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: You've You've filled my brain with good information, and uh, 329 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: what can I say? Happy Easter and have a great weekend. 330 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: Hey, Happy Easter to YouTube, Michael, and thanks so much 331 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: for the call. Appreciate it. I love it when industry 332 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: pros call and uh and and just give us their 333 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: their their support for the show. 334 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 5: Uh. 335 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: It's just one of one of the most satisfying things 336 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: for me is to have other contractors and uh and 337 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: building professionals and designers and architects say hey, love the show. 338 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: That should hopefully encourage the rest of you that, uh, 339 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: you know, we're not just uh flowing throwing out flippant 340 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: stuff here, but I'm here to talk to you in 341 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: real terms about what's really going on with your home. 342 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: Why don't we do that again when we come back 343 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: from the break your Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper. 344 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 5: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM 345 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 5: six forty. 346 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: And we are back Dean Sharp the House Whisper. Welcome 347 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: to home. We're here to transform your ordinary house into 348 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: an extraordinary home, and we do that every Saturday morning 349 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: by taking your calls. All calls all Saturdays are all 350 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: calls Saturday mornings. The number to reach me eight three 351 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 2: three two. Ask Dean eight three three the numeral two 352 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: ask Dean. Whatever's got you scratching your head about your home? 353 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: From architecture and design all the way down to why 354 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: that toilet is hissing in the middle of the night 355 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: and everything in between. Let's talk to Rochelle. Rochelle, welcome home. 356 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: Thank you Dean for taking my call. I live in 357 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 6: a nine yearnit Candle building, and I was wondering if 358 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 6: it was possible to put in the veil the reverse 359 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 6: circulation at the water tank which is on the roof, 360 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 6: which would allow us to get half water sooner and 361 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 6: that place all this wonderful cold water. 362 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean you're not sharing the hot water 363 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: with the other tenants, right you have a dedicated a 364 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: water heater for your unit. 365 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 6: Yes, no, I do not. 366 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: Oh oh, so you're sharing that hot water with the 367 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: other units. 368 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 6: Yes, that's correct, And it's on the roof. The water 369 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 6: tank is on the roof where you located Beverly Hills. 370 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: In Beverly Hills, okay, all right, So that's something that 371 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: that may require a little bit of cooperation with the 372 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 2: other tenants and and a little bit of plumbing up 373 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: there independently. I mean, you could put a bridge valve 374 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: or what's called a crossover valve underneath your furthest sink, 375 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: the sink that's furthest away from that unit. If the pipe, 376 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: if the pipes in your units aren't already piped as 377 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: a recirculation line, which I'm assuming that they're not. But 378 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: without the pump, without the pump on the main water 379 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: heater supply, the bridge valve doesn't really get the job 380 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: done all by itself. It's a combination of the crossover 381 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: valve under the sink and then the research pump. Now, 382 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: there have been installations of recirculation pumps under the sink 383 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: as well, and you could do the pumping from there, 384 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: but a plumber is going to have to take a 385 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: look at that and tell you whether you could get 386 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: it done, and that way you could do adjusting your 387 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: unit alone if a plumber. 388 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 6: Can get However, I'm interesting, however, it would only service 389 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: to one basin because I had someone come in and 390 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 6: take a look and they said one basin would be 391 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 6: six hundred and twenty five dollars. And I have many 392 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 6: tips in if my unit is two thousand square feet. 393 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: Right, I understand that when you're technically that's correct. However, uh, 394 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: there is a benefit since since your plumbing system as 395 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: it enters your unit is designed like the branches on 396 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: a tree. Okay, so that's why I always say the 397 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: furthest the furthest basin away from the hot water source 398 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: because as the hot water gets drawn. If you can 399 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: imagine if if if we were trying to get the 400 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: sap too from the base of a tree to the 401 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: very tip top of the tree, because we needed more 402 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 2: sap up there, uh, and we'd install the system to 403 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: pump sap all the way to the tip of the tree. Yes, 404 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: the tip of the tree would be getting fresh sap, 405 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: but think about the fact that all the other branches 406 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: along the way would be having fresh sap drawn much 407 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: closer to them. Not right up to the point, but 408 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: much closer. That's why we install these units when we 409 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: do a single install at the sink furthest away from 410 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: the heat source, because as it draws more hot water 411 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: into your unit, every sink will benefit. Now every will 412 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: every sink be instant, No, but you can cut down 413 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: the time wasted and the water wasted on all the 414 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: sinks in the unit if we're drawing hot water all 415 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: the way to the furthest point, because they'll all be 416 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: that much closer. So it's not an absolute instant situation 417 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: on the other sinks. But it is true that a 418 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: single pump installed on the right sink will help all 419 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: the sinks. 420 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 6: Okay, or determine which. 421 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: Is a for. 422 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 6: The step. 423 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: That's something that a plumber could determine for you. Most 424 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: plumbers will be able to figure that out for you. 425 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, all right, Well, thank you for your help. 426 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: You're very very welcome, Rachelle. That's a kind of a 427 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: tough situation where you've got to share the hot water 428 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: with everybody else, But it can be done. And you 429 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: know what if you circulated that information around to the 430 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: other tenants and shared the cost of the one research 431 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: pump up there, I'm you know, I wouldn't be surprised 432 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: if everybody would chip in a little bit. But you know, 433 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: divided by nine, that would be a real minimal cost 434 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: and everybody could get a lot of benefit from that. 435 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: As they go, Okay, do we have time to Yeah, 436 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: we got time to actually get another call started. Let's 437 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: talk to Jerry. Jerry, welcome home. 438 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. 439 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: Jan Good morning, Good morning. 440 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: I have a home. 441 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 5: Good morning. 442 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: I have a home that was built in seventy two, 443 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: and I purchased it twenty years ago knowing there was 444 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: a crack in the foundation right along the width of 445 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: the living room. So the living room was silicone, the 446 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 4: crack was silicone, and I put in tile twenty years ago, 447 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: and now it's all lifted. It took all this time 448 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 4: to lift and crack. And I'm anguishing because I love 449 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 4: my floor tile and I was told that the only 450 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: solution would be just to remove it and put in 451 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: the luxury vinyl tile, and I'm just anguishing. I just 452 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: don't want to do it. I love my tile. 453 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about this foundation crack. You're saying 454 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: it's lifted now, how why does the crack? How much 455 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: is the So we have a differential in the slab 456 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: now where part of it is part of is lifted up, 457 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: the other part is load described to me what's happening there. 458 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: The tile is lifting. We've not removed the tile yet. 459 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: The crack has been there. As I mentioned, it was 460 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: silicon that the twenty years ago. But the tile will 461 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: never the crack will never go away in the foundation. 462 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 4: So half the tile that I have now is perfect, 463 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: But the other half of the living room, I guess 464 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: one side of that with crack is all lifting and cracking. Okay, 465 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: So I don't know what the I don't know if 466 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: that if that will ever be repairable, that foundation crack. Yeah, 467 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: I had a yeah, I don't know. 468 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead? You had did you have a 469 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: foundation repair expert person come out and take a look. 470 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: At it twenty years ago? Yes, I had a geo 471 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 4: guy come whatever they're called, I can't think of it, 472 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: and he said, yeah, you have a crack. It's moving 473 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: you up out of hill. Everything moves, and you know 474 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 4: the whole house is cracking too. But I'm not concerned 475 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 4: about it. What I just really want to address is 476 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: do I have to put in the luxury vinyl tile 477 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 4: just to take care of this so it doesn't lift again. 478 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 4: I want to keep my tile, but they recommend that 479 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: I install the luxury vinyl tile instead. 480 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get it. And the reason there's they're 481 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: recommending that, whoever they are, is that, you know, luxury 482 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: vinyl plank is a floating floor. It slips, you know, 483 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't actually attach down to the found it. It's 484 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: basically like a carpet, and so the foundation can move 485 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: underneath to a certain degree without affecting that floor whatsoever, 486 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: and that makes it a little bit more resilient. Jerry, 487 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: I want you to hang on I want to address 488 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: this a little bit further. Let's talk a little bit 489 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: on the other side of the break. So I'm gonna 490 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: pop you on hold because I don't want to rush 491 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: an answer here, and I've got a couple other questions 492 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: and a couple of thoughts for you on it. But 493 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: we'll handle it on the other side. Let's see what 494 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: we can do about Jerry's tile floor problem. We'll do 495 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: it right after this. Your home with Dean Sharp, the 496 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: house Whisper. Dean Sharp, the house Whisper, here to remind 497 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: you every home deserves great design, including yours, especially yours, 498 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: my friend. That's why I'm here to help you find 499 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: it for your home. Find the path forward. It can 500 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: be done. Never never met a house that we couldn't 501 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: find the path forward on. Yeah no it's not. Yeah, 502 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: I know the paths forward. It's a bulldozer for this house. 503 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, come on, come on. 504 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: Let's work at it. Creativity overcost and uh and we 505 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: can find a way, I promise you. All right, it's 506 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: an all call Saturday morning. I got Jerry on me. 507 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: But she's got a foundation crack that she knew was 508 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: there when she bought the house and now it has 509 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: manifested by coming up through her tile floor, and she 510 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: wants to know can it be saved or does she 511 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: have to abandon her tile and go to something like 512 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 2: a floating you know, you know, luxury vinyl plank or 513 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: the likes. So Jerry understand there's a lot that I 514 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: that I can't know for certain without actually looking at 515 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: the situation. Here are my concerns because the answer is yes, 516 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: but yes butt to saving your tile floor. There are 517 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: a lot of factors involved here. Number one, I know 518 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: you knew that the foundation crack was there, if the 519 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: foundation is continuing to settle, if the floor is out 520 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: of level, or if we have some actual uplift. Now, 521 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: cracks are one thing. Cracks are not a huge concern. 522 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: As I said earlier in the show, as I've said 523 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: so many times, there's only two kinds of concrete in 524 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: the world, concrete with cracks and concrete that hasn't cracked yet. 525 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: It's a brittle substrate, and so cracks don't bother me 526 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: in concrete. What bothers me is widening cracks and better, 527 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: or I should say worse uplift where one side of 528 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: the concrete is starting to rise up above the other 529 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: side of the concrete. If that's the case, then the 530 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: only in good conscience advice I can give you is 531 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: is to call out a foundation repair expert like you know, 532 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: foundation repair LA or Alphastructural some foundation company that specializes that. 533 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: And I know it was twenty years ago you had 534 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: somebody look at it and put some gunk in the crack. 535 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: Now it would be a good time to maybe have 536 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: somebody come out and see if we can't actually stop 537 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: this or slow it from happening, because I don't want 538 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: you to have a larger structural problem with the house. 539 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: So let me just say that, get it out of 540 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: the way. The question of whether or not a tile 541 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: floor can be applied over a cracking and moving foundation 542 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: is a qualified yes, but it has to be done 543 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: in the right way. What we have to do is 544 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: we have to use a crack isolation membrane. So you 545 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: want to write that down. You're going to be talking 546 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: to a tile company about this. A crack isolation membrane. 547 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: This goes way beyond just opening up the crack and 548 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: you know caulking some you know, some silicone down into it. 549 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: It's about number one filling the crack up with a 550 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: flexible epoxy or a high pressure epoxy so that it 551 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: really stabilizes it for a longer period of time, and 552 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: it's not a guarantee that it's not going to move again, 553 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: but stabilizes it. And then we lay down a crack 554 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: isolation membrane, which is a flexible sheet that bonds to 555 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: the cement, and then the tile bonds to the membrane. 556 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 2: But because the membrane is bridging the gap of the crack, 557 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: there is far far less likelihood in cracking a movement 558 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: of an eighth of an inch or less, there's far 559 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: less likelihood that that movement translates up into the tile. 560 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: And so have we used it successfully? 561 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 562 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: Am I supposed to tell you that it will do 563 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: anything over an eighth of an inch of crack movement? No, 564 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: because the industry would be very upset with me if 565 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: I said that, because that's where the guarantees kind of 566 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: stop at an eighth of an inch. If there's uplift, 567 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: that's a different problem and not something that a membrane 568 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: is going to solve. So a qualified yes, but a 569 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: very very qualified yes. And my only other encouragement to 570 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: you I don't know what kind of tile you've got, 571 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: but these days, luxury vinyl plank, in other words, flooring 572 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 2: planks that look like wood are not the only option 573 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: for luxury vinyl. Nowadays you've got high stone content floors 574 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: that can simulate tile as well, and so if you 575 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: have to go that other route, you can still have 576 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: a tile looking floor. You can use SBC tiles and 577 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 2: so on. So when you go to the flooring stores 578 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: and look around for that, if that's the option that 579 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: you end up going with, just know that you have 580 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: more options than a wood look when it comes to 581 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: the floor. 582 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: Okay, Dean, thank you very much. I appreciate it. 583 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 2: All right, Jerry, I'm sorry I couldn't give you just great, 584 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: brilliant news. But that's the informed answer to the flooring question. 585 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: So hopefully you can find a way. There are a 586 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: lot of different ways that we have to treat different 587 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: flooring situations, folks. If your slab is cracked, not a 588 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: big deal. You could use some isolating cracked membrane and 589 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 2: still have whatever kind of floor you want. If it's 590 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: really moving, that's a deal. If it's separating and lifting, 591 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: that's a deal. If part of the floor is going 592 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 2: out of level. That's a deal. They're not unrepairable. It's 593 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: not that we're going to jack the slab back up 594 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 2: again and make it level. That's unrealistic. But sometimes foundation 595 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: repair companies can come in and an underpin a sagging 596 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 2: corner of a slab so it doesn't drop any further, 597 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 2: and then we can put flooring levelers inside the room 598 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: that will bring the floor, the interior surface of the 599 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: floor back to perfectly level. Again, there are lots of 600 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: options out there, but you got to bring in the 601 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: pros to really evaluate it and give you an honest answer, 602 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: because patchwork at a certain point, when there's a systemic problem, 603 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: patchwork is not going to get it done. Does that 604 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: makes sense? 605 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 1: All right? 606 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: All right, We've got time for maybe one more quick call. 607 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: Let's talk to Alan. Hey, Alan, welcome home, Thanks Steve, 608 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 2: Thank you, by call. 609 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 5: I live in a senior apartment building and I have 610 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 5: a galley kitchen about four feet wide, the flooring part 611 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 5: of it four feet wide ten feet long, and now 612 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 5: I have mobility problem. So I've moved my office chair 613 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 5: into that galley kitchen, and the rollers from the bottom 614 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 5: of the chair just tore up the viral flooring. No, 615 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 5: they're going to replace the flooring. However, can I buy 616 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 5: like a piece of not plywood or one inch wood 617 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 5: or something to lay over it so I can continue 618 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 5: scooting around the kitchen without tearing up the bottom line 619 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 5: of flooring. 620 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: Well, yeah you could, I mean you could, but uh, 621 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: but that's a lot of effort to go to to 622 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: basically cover up the new vinyl that they're going to 623 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: put in the kitchen. As opposed to that, I would 624 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: have a conversation with the powers that be whoever's going 625 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 2: to be replacing the floor. Instead of having less expensive 626 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: sheet good vinyl or rolled in there, let's talk about 627 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: putting in maybe like a luxury vinyl plank which is 628 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 2: not that expensive, especially for that small of an area, 629 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: but is much thicker and a commercial grade version of 630 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: it will put up with the roller of your office 631 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: here and you can enjoy the beauty of the floor 632 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: and the durability of it because we're talking about the 633 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: surface ware layer quality of that material and thin vinyl goods. Yeah, 634 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: I mean the office chair will eventually really mess with it. 635 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, a commercial vinyl plank, yeah, I. 636 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: Would say, a a a floating vinyl plank floor luxury 637 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 2: vinyl plank that has a commercial warranty to it. In 638 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: other words, it's it's the kind of thing that would 639 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 2: it's made for your home, but it also is thick 640 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 2: enough that you know you could put it in a store. 641 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 2: You could put it in a retail store or a 642 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: grocery store, a thing like that. Those are out there. 643 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: They're actually you super common, and so you just lean 644 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: in that direction and you'll end up with something with 645 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 2: a ware layer that has the durability to hold up. Alan. 646 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for your question, my friend. We are right 647 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: at the end of the show. I got to go 648 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: or they're gonna give me the old shepherd's hook right 649 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: off the stage. Everybody, thanks for your calls. This morning calls, 650 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: great questions. As usual. It is Easter weekend. I hope 651 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: you the very, very happiest weekend. If you're here in 652 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: southern California, do something, get out and enjoy the breezy 653 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: day at least anywhere else. I hope the weather continues 654 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: to treat you well. Enjoy this weekend, and we'll see 655 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: you right back here next week.