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Speaker 1: They're taking physicals and good year. They're gonna work out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Red's gonna play a game in eleven days against the Guardians.

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Speaker 1: Spring training underway, which is awesome. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: conversation that we kind of kind had an allusion to

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Speaker 1: just a few minutes ago that this baseball season, if

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Speaker 1: get to that coming up a little bit later on.

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Speaker 1: And can the Bengals pull off with the Reds?

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Speaker 2: Couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I'll make that make sense a little bit later on.

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Speaker 1: We can't make our guy wait. Pat Brennan is in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: He is covering the Reds for the Inquirer and Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Pat. How's it going, Oh, well, it's great to talk

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Speaker 2: to you. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Awesome to talk to you as well. How is I

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Speaker 1: gotta It's it's a cliche, but you have to do it.

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Speaker 1: I have to ask what the weather is like in Goodyear,

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Speaker 1: even though it's warmish today here.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I did hear that it was pretty decent

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Speaker 2: came on. I didn't want to harass you too much

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Speaker 2: doing me. But it's beautiful, kind of hazy blue skies.

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Speaker 2: We're in the low eighties here. It's real nice in

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Speaker 2: the shade. And I'm watching the grounds crew with the

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Speaker 2: Reds Player Development Complex go to work right now, which

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Speaker 2: means we're obviously in a climate where grass can grow.

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Speaker 1: So I think so, And you're not correct. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what grass looks like anymore. Well, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate the opportunity I asked. I had to know. It's

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Speaker 1: not a spring training interview. If you don't ask how

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one. I think we've had two

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Speaker 2: Terry Francona said yesterday he's really looking at the you

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Speaker 2: I think throughout this spring training camp. So that's one thing,

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Speaker 1: How many roster spots are legitimately open.

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Speaker 2: Like Matt McClain and others. But maybe maybe that isn't

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Sal Stewart, and I know Tito hasn't wanted

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's fascinating to think about where

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Speaker 1: On Saturday, I was watching the Phoenix Suns take on

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Speaker 2: and in response to what the Sixers had done or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is which is okay. I just wish that

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Speaker 2: you know, they with the with what they have, it

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Speaker 2: felt like it was really time to go mo. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't go at the trade deadline. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I think they were backpedaled a little bit. So well, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, but that's what that's what you get with

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Speaker 2: the franchise that's been you know, criminally mismanaged for most,

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Speaker 2: if not all, of my lifetime. Yeah, hey, look, you

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Speaker 2: know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, if if, if you want

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Speaker 1: to see a team that often underwhelms at the trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: well then uh, b where you are with the team

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Speaker 1: that you're covering right now in late July, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's typically.

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Speaker 2: Part of the course.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's a different story and we'll bother you

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Speaker 1: then yes, please do yes, Uh you're the best. Awesome

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Speaker 1: to hear your voice, Enjoy goodyear, Thank you as.

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Speaker 2: Always, Thanks buddy, great to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: That's our man. Pat Brennan covering Red spring training for

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Speaker 1: E and Hugh. I don't know for a fact that

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Speaker 1: Suns game. I just I knew they played there and

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Speaker 1: that's his team. Twenty minutes after five o'clock five point

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Speaker 1: us to spend this summer having this one debate. I'll

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