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Speaker 3: got a lot on the docket for today. We will

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Speaker 3: we'll talk basketball, we'll talk baseball, we'll talk football all

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Speaker 3: over the course of the next three hours, and we'll

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Speaker 3: take your phone calls five to one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. A long weekend that was. And I know

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Speaker 3: that Chad Brenda was in yesterday and probably got to

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Speaker 3: to what happened over the course of the weekend and

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Speaker 3: what happened yesterday in the world of sports. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: Reds today. We'll do so with the man out in

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Speaker 3: Arizona covering the Reds right now. Our good friend from

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Speaker 3: Fox nineteen, Joe Daniman, will join us at one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: We have some audio from red spring training. We've got

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Speaker 3: a little Terry Francona, We've got a little Ellie de

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Speaker 3: la Cruz. We'll get to that buster one. Austin gave

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Speaker 3: his top ten pitchers in Major League Baseball going into

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty six season, also listed a number of

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Speaker 3: honorable mention pitchers. One name was included to that list

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Speaker 3: from the Reds. Another name omitted from that list for

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati we'll discuss. We'll talk Bengals today. The window

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Speaker 3: is now open for the franchise tag across the National

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Speaker 3: Football League. Of course, that draws into the question of

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. We'll discuss that. We'll discuss what Andrew Whitworth

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Speaker 3: had to say about going and getting Max Crosby. It

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Speaker 3: best free agent fits across the National Football League. How

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Speaker 3: about this going on? As Spring training is now ramping

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Speaker 3: up Austin, the Major League Baseball Players Association is in

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a tough situation right now, as

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Speaker 3: their executive director, Tony Clark resigned now could not pick

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Speaker 3: a worse time to resign. He did this earlier today.

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Speaker 3: It now leaves the players union without a leader less

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Speaker 3: than a year before the expiration of Major League Baseball's

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Speaker 3: collective bargaining agreement. It comes in the wake of the

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Speaker 3: Eastern District of New York's ongoing investigation into the finances

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Speaker 3: and other dealings of the Major League Baseball Players Association. So, Austin,

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Speaker 3: as we have talked about a huge year coming up

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Speaker 3: I would imagine that losing your executive director before all

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Speaker 3: of those negotiations is not the most ideal scenario for

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Speaker 4: Definitely not the most ideal scenario. You mentioned. It expires

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Speaker 4: at the end of the year. I know Rob Manfred

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Speaker 4: after this big search. Seems like somebody that they've already

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Speaker 4: But yeah, and Brent Souter said, this is gonna be

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Speaker 4: So hopefully they're able to come up with something and

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Speaker 3: Time will tell. MMA fans, I would imagine are pretty

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Speaker 4: I have a confession to make, Okay, I didn't know

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Speaker 4: You said, it's been a decade since she was in MMA.

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Speaker 3: Now, her last fight she lost, and then she went

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now I thought she was just like still just

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Speaker 4: I don't know anything about any confirmed reports of that.

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Speaker 4: I've have you been like, I know, we've talked about

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Speaker 4: watching this? But I'll still watch it boxing a little

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Speaker 4: bit if there's like some big names, but that doesn't

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Speaker 4: just I'm over there, just wincing in pain watching those

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Speaker 3: Now, a couple of things we can branch off from

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Speaker 4: I literally have no idea. I feel like I didn't

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Speaker 3: And I thought, in watching like Victor weinbin Yama to

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Speaker 4: I've got the winners here. Would you like to guess

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Speaker 3: You didn't even tell you who was in it, because

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Speaker 3: He won.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he beat Carter Bryant from the San Antonio Spurs. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I have never heard of either one of those guys.

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Speaker 4: The NBA Three Point Contest? Do you know who won?

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Speaker 4: Shouldn't tell you? Damian Lillard, Dame Dame time, isn't he hurt?

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Speaker 4: Did you know that Dame Lillard has won three of

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Speaker 4: the last four three point competitions? Dame Lillard, Damian Lillard

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Speaker 3: He's been in rehab. He hasn't played this year.

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Speaker 4: He won it.

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Speaker 3: How is he in the three Point Contest?

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Speaker 4: This is NBA dot Com twenty twenty six winner, Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 3: he's played this year. I'm just letting you know. As

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Speaker 4: But he was healthy enough on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: promotions that is promoted by Jake Paul. This isn't a

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Speaker 4: It also has it's been graded by PSA, Yes, and

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Speaker 4: put into a Diamond and Dull seventy five thousand dollars chain.

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Speaker 4: Uh So that's, you know, part of the entire experience.

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Speaker 4: This is a nineteen ninety eight Japanese Pikachu Illustrate y Pa.

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Speaker 4: It was graded a gim Meant ten by PSA. It

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Speaker 4: The highest that they've graded was A nine. So this

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Speaker 4: is clearly rarefied air and it's set the record with

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Speaker 4: a sixteen point four million dollars sale. I did see

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Speaker 4: and ruise to market. Paul and Golden and others. Wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is It's incredible that watching that cell for

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Speaker 3: A sense of pride and knowing that the organization and

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals that we desperately want to get back

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Speaker 3: to the mountaintop are finally coming to their senses and knowing, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we can get back there with the help of some Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: Think that would be a first step and a successful

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Speaker 3: one for the Bengals organization.

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Speaker 4: For what it's worth, I agreed with that person. I

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Speaker 4: would love to see them sign either one of those guys,

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Speaker 4: have no I have no problem with that. I would

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I necessarily believe that the same

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Speaker 4: you know, same sense that you do. But you know,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to deny. There are no current Bearcats on

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Speaker 4: the Bengals roster to my knowledge.

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Speaker 3: Last one was who Kevin Huber? Oh, just a whole

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Speaker 3: hum career I guess he had with the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like there's one, isn't there one on

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Speaker 4: the practice squad?

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Speaker 3: Well, there was a there was a cup of coffee

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Speaker 3: for des Ritter. Well, of course there was that time

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Speaker 3: at training camp. I don't know, maybe I made that

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Speaker 3: up anyway. Anyway, Dante Corleone is draftable, got a position

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Speaker 3: of need for the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: He can play what three or four snaps a year.

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Speaker 3: If he gets a couple of snaps in, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: be good. They're gonna be good.

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Speaker 4: Remember when he was just like never on the field

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Speaker 4: when it mattered most.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Cyrus Allen tied the touchdown record. He'd be a

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Speaker 3: nice number three wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: I was pretty excited when Tyson Vite left to go

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Speaker 4: to Penn State after watching the Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: I was like, let's go, Well, here's what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna take a break, and I'm gonna go

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Speaker 3: scour the sales floor and ask who had something to

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Speaker 3: say this morning about the battle.

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Speaker 4: I tell you it wasn't one of them. Really, Huh,

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Speaker 4: wasn't one of them? Oh well, if.

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Speaker 3: It's anyone above them that could maybe put some pieces

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Speaker 3: together as to what's been happening around.

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Speaker 4: How you view the hierarchy of this place to figure

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Speaker 4: out who said such a thing. I think this particular

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Speaker 4: person is someone with power and integrity, all right, you

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Speaker 4: may not view them that way. Well, after these comments,

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Speaker 4: I don't care who. I'm not gonna view them that.

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Speaker 4: I'm protecting their identity, all right. I'll be in to

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Speaker 4: talk to you in just a second while we take

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Speaker 4: a break. Since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Sports Station, we'll get to some Major League Baseball

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Speaker 4: and a buster only top ten list that has a

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Speaker 4: glaring no mission in my opinion. We'll dive into that

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Speaker 4: next on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, it's Skyline time. All right,

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Speaker 3: Let's let's do this from a Red's point of view,

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Speaker 3: because we have some reds audio to get to. But

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Speaker 3: I saw yesterday Austin buster Onnie is kind of going

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Speaker 3: through position groups going into the twenty twenty sixth season,

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Speaker 3: and his first position group he started with yesterday, we're

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Speaker 3: starting pitchers. I was reading this and wanted to bring

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Speaker 3: this back into to call today. Here are buster Onnie's

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Speaker 3: top ten pitchers going into the twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 3: Number one Tarik Skuball number two. He has Paul Sken's

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Speaker 3: number three, Yoshiobu Yamamoto, Garrett Crochet number four. He lists

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Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez's five, Hunter Brown has six, Max Fried at seven,

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Speaker 3: and then Logan Webb, Chris Sayle, and Jacob de Gram

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Speaker 3: round out the top ten. Now, I was not expecting

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Speaker 3: a Red pitcher to be in the top ten going

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Speaker 3: into the season. Now, buster Onney also dished out some

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Speaker 3: honorable mentions Blake Snell, Zach Wheeler, Garrett Cole, Freddy Peralta,

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Speaker 3: Brian Wu, Dylan Ceese, Carlos Rodin, Kevin Gosman, and Cole

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Speaker 3: Reagan's I'm sorry, and he added his last one was

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Speaker 3: Andrew Abbott. He said Andrew Abbott produced a five point

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Speaker 3: six war for Cincinnati last year. Two point eight seven

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Speaker 3: ERA twenty nine starts the question I have, Austin, because

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Speaker 3: we were talking about cy Young Upside last week, and

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Speaker 3: we spent a lot of time talking about Hunter Green,

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Speaker 3: and it feels like at times when we talk pictures

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Speaker 3: that Hunter Green can be looked over. And I get,

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Speaker 3: you gotta make all your You gotta make your starts.

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Speaker 3: You can't have season after season where you're talking about

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Speaker 3: injuries or battling back in different ways. But in hearing

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Speaker 3: the list, Austin, are you surprised that Hunter Green is

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Speaker 3: not on an honorable mention side of things?

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Speaker 4: My first reaction is why do I care what Buster

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Speaker 4: only thinks? Yeah, that's my first thought. Secondly, I don't

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Speaker 4: expect him to be on any top ten list because

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Speaker 4: he doesn't pitch enough.

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Speaker 3: No, not top ten, but honorable mention, I.

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Speaker 4: Thought, I don't expect that either. He doesn't pitch enough, okay,

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Speaker 4: And and Buster writes about that in the piece. He

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Speaker 4: mentions Hunter Green and says that you know, he could

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Speaker 4: be in the top ten, but he doesn't pitch enough.

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Speaker 4: It's it's We talked about it a lot last year.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about it again this year. It's one of

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Speaker 4: the over kind of overarching themes of the Reds this

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Speaker 4: year is can those three starters Abbott, Lodolo and primarily

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Speaker 4: Green and Lodolo pitch enough to make this a difference?

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Speaker 4: Can you get ninety starts out of those three guys?

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Speaker 4: It just hasn't happened between Lodolo and Green. I think

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Speaker 4: Lodolo is just as nasty as Hunter Green is. And

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Speaker 4: I've talked a lot about how much I love Hunter Green,

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Speaker 4: but he just doesn't pitch enough. He's not on the

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Speaker 4: field enough.

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Speaker 3: We talk and we have talked a lot about how

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Speaker 3: this team's success can tie into Hunter Green, and we

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Speaker 3: talked about Hunter's goals and vision board last week. When

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Speaker 3: we talk about the Reds or when we lean into

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Speaker 3: this Reds team in the rotation, is it fair or

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Speaker 3: is it right? In your opinion to lead with Hunter

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Speaker 3: Green or should more of the conversation be talking about

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Speaker 3: Andrew Abbot at the top and then hoping for more

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Speaker 3: with Hunter Green, Because I think if Hunter Green and Andrew

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Speaker 3: Abbit make the same amount of starts, you're talking about

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Speaker 3: Hunter Green having a better year. But to this point,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Rabbit has made the starts, and he has been

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Speaker 3: a work course for this bullpen and for this organization,

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Speaker 3: and yet we go back to Hunter Green, Hunter Green,

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Speaker 3: Hunter Green. I just I wonder are we talking about

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Speaker 3: Hunter too much and not Andrew Abbit enough based on

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Speaker 3: what he can mean for this roster.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 4: I think Reds fans who pay close attention understand the

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Speaker 4: value in Andrew Abbott and are impressed with what he's

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Speaker 4: been able to do, especially the way he's kind of

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Speaker 4: adjusted since he first got to the big leagues into now.

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Speaker 4: And I think Hunter's done a good job of that

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Speaker 4: as well. I think the difference is, you know, a

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Speaker 4: really good hitter, people don't appreciate as much as a

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Speaker 4: home run hitter. A guy who might hit for a

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Speaker 4: three twenty average people don't appreciate as much as a

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Speaker 4: guy who might hit forty or fifty home runs. And

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Speaker 4: I think it's the same thing in the same discourse

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Speaker 4: with pictures right now. Because you know Trek Scuball is

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Speaker 4: dominant and a power pitcher, Paul Skeens is dominant and

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Speaker 4: a power pitcher, you don't necessarily see a guy like

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Speaker 4: Andrew Abbot as much. And I think Moe's gonna have

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Speaker 4: the guy on today who basically said Andrew Abbit gets lucky.

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Speaker 4: And I think Red fans would watch and say Andrew

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Speaker 4: Abbott is a skilled pitcher who uses different speeds and

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Speaker 4: location and sequencing to get hitters out rather than just

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Speaker 4: overpowering them with the fastball. And depending on who you ask,

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Speaker 4: that might be more impressive than just being overpowering with

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Speaker 4: the fastball. But because that's so popular in today's day

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Speaker 4: and age, I think that gets more of the headlines

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Speaker 4: you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: The outlandis remark about Andrew Abbot that was made on

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Speaker 3: Friday by ESPN dot COM's Derek Carty and Todd Zola.

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Speaker 3: They went through and they put out a National League

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Speaker 3: betting preview and Carty predicted the Reds to go under

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Speaker 3: their post to total eighty two and a half. Now

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Speaker 3: that is a possibility that they could go under the reasoning,

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Speaker 3: I think is what has people taken back a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Carti wrote this, My projections are not sold on the

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Speaker 3: Reds being an average MLB team, mostly due to question

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Speaker 3: marks in their rotation. He says this quote, Andrew Abbott

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Speaker 3: has been one of the luckiest pitchers in baseball. Nicolodolo's

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Speaker 3: stuff declined after returning from injury last year, and Chase

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Speaker 3: Burns represents a significant injury risk. Throw into that a

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Speaker 3: week bullpen, and this pitching staff nearly cracks the bottom

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Speaker 3: five of projected staffs in baseball. The bat X whatever

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Speaker 3: that is, projects seventy nine wins for Cincinnati, even after

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Speaker 3: the addition of Iohanneo Suarez. So and again, I know

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Speaker 3: Moe's going to debunk the Andrew Rabbit has been lucky

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Speaker 3: side of things. But are we sure Nicolodolo's stuff has

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Speaker 3: declined in twenty twenty five, he made the most starts

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Speaker 3: through the most innings and had his lowest ra How

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Speaker 3: is that declining? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think it's important to note. Derek Cardi has come

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Speaker 4: out and said, Hey, I screwed this up. Uh, he said,

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Speaker 4: he put a tweet out. He's like, I'd like to

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Speaker 4: apologize to Red's fans, I think I misread the data.

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Speaker 4: I still do not believe in Abbot and I have

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Speaker 4: their bullpen projected below average, but my new stuff based projections.

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Speaker 4: Actually you love Green and Burns and have their rotation

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Speaker 4: top five.

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Speaker 3: He made such a Chase Burns significant injury risk, which yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean every pitcher that throws as hard as out

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Speaker 3: is going to be a risk.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think they noted that the injury and I say

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Speaker 4: it in quotations injury that landed Chase Burns on the

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Speaker 4: injured list last year, so he was good to go

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Speaker 4: over the playoff run. But yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 4: we all disagreed with that. There's a difference between data

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Speaker 4: and watching pictures and understanding it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a thing about baseball. I was thinking

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Speaker 4: about this a little bit this weekend. I love that

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Speaker 4: there is so much data that you can get into

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Speaker 4: about how a particular pitcher performs, or how a hitter hits,

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Speaker 4: or the ballpark metrics or whatever it might be. I

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Speaker 4: love that that's all at the fingertips of baseball fans.

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Speaker 4: But also I think it gets in the way of, hey,

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Speaker 4: is this guy a good player or not? Based off

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Speaker 4: the way you watch them, and I think that's maybe

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Speaker 4: the case here with Andrew Abbott, because if you watch him,

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Speaker 4: you can tell it's not hard to tell. This is

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Speaker 4: a dude who knows how to pitch in the big

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Speaker 4: leagues and can get good hitters out, great hitters out

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Speaker 4: in a variety of different ways. It's not just relying

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Speaker 4: on fastball change up. I also don't think the bullpen's weaker.

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Speaker 4: I think the bullpen's stronger.

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Speaker 3: The point of this that I come back to, like,

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Speaker 3: I get that the Reds could go under their posted

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Speaker 3: total of eighty two and a half, but if the like,

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Speaker 3: if I were to say here, Austin right now, if

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Speaker 3: the Reds were to go under eighty two and a half,

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Speaker 3: it would because of what would you say it would

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Speaker 3: because of the pitching staff or would you point back,

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Speaker 3: probably to the offense again in the numbers if they

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Speaker 3: don't get to their posted win total.

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Speaker 4: My reaction right now would say it's because the pitching

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Speaker 4: staff got hurt. Okay, injuries, yeah, injuries, But you could

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Speaker 4: say that for any team, So that's it's a we

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Speaker 4: That would be a weasily answer. I would say the offense, Yes,

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Speaker 4: the offense continues not to produce if.

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Speaker 3: They're If they're under eighty two and a half, I

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Speaker 3: would go back to questioning did they do enough for

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Speaker 3: the offense? Did they add enough that way? I don't

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Speaker 3: think it to me the problem. And again, injuries can

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Speaker 3: happen and things we don't foresee. But on paper going

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Speaker 3: into the season, I don't think that pitching will be

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Speaker 3: this team's undoing. If they were to go under, I

666
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Speaker 3: think it would still be where the offense is. Ellie

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Speaker 3: de la Cruz spoke, Terry Francona spoke. We have a

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Speaker 3: clipping of audio from each we'll get to when we

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Speaker 3: get back. We'll finish up the hour with a phone

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Speaker 3: caller too as well, and then welcome in Joe Danoman

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Speaker 3: to kick off our number two that's still ahead, ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station WC Welcome back, since you

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Speaker 3: three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Thanks

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Speaker 3: to our friends, it's Skyline Chili. Let's finish up the

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Speaker 3: Reds conversation here an hour number one. Before we get

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Speaker 3: to Joe Danoman, a couple pieces of audio Austin that

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Speaker 3: have been collected over the last couple of days. Let's

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Speaker 3: start with this from Ellie de la Cruz on just

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Speaker 3: this team's chances to go win the NL Central.

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Speaker 13: Yea all day, that's all goal this year, and I

681
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Speaker 13: think we can do it. We got a great team

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Speaker 13: and we just gotta stay together and just get gone.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this team is better than last year's Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I believe so. Why do you think so?

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Speaker 13: We gotta the communication was there last year, we got

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Speaker 13: a great communication. We got some important pieces this year.

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Speaker 3: I think that can help. So better communication and better pieces,

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Speaker 3: Elie daily Cruz. So obviously the goal is to go

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Speaker 3: out and win the NL Central. That would then obviously

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Speaker 3: come down from the manager himself, Terry Francona. I believe Austin.

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Speaker 3: That was our guy, Joe Danaman. This is Terry Francona's

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Speaker 3: message to the team getting spring training underway.

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Speaker 14: You know, the message, the way we feel about the

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Speaker 14: game never changes. I think sometimes the messaging does, just

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Speaker 14: depending on where you think the ball club is or

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Speaker 14: the aid you know, and and and the message is

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Speaker 14: kind of like, hey, let's go, like we tasted it

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Speaker 14: last year, let's go. And I think they understand. I mean,

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Speaker 14: they showed up really proud of the way they showed up,

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Speaker 14: and we just try to try to always be honest.

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Speaker 14: I try not to make anything up and just tell

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Speaker 14: them how I feel.

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Speaker 6: This young core that everybody's been talking about for so long. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the Ellys and the Plans, the Hunters. Do you still

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Speaker 6: look at them as young or have they been in

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Speaker 6: the league now long enough?

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Speaker 3: It's time for them to win both.

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Speaker 14: We are still younger than some of the teams we're

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Speaker 14: competing against in some areas, but it's time. Guy's got

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Speaker 14: two three years under their belt. Now we can do this.

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Speaker 14: They know they belong and it's not it's not just

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Speaker 14: to survive, but to thrive. That's the idea, not to survive,

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Speaker 14: but to thrive. It's their time now.

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Speaker 3: I like that. Look, they're still younger than a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams, but they they have a couple of years

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Speaker 3: of experience. I like messaging there from Terry Francona, and

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Speaker 3: I believe it's on par with what it should be

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Speaker 3: for this team. Very simply put, Uh, it's time for

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Speaker 3: these guys to get going.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: We'll expand more on that in just a few minutes

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Speaker 3: with Joe Danoman. For now, we've got a couple of

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Speaker 3: minutes here, let's take uh, let's try to squeeze in

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Speaker 3: two phone calls here. What's up John, Good afternoon fellows.

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Speaker 3: How are you good? How are you?

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Speaker 15: We're hanging in there, finally.

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Speaker 8: Awake from the super Bowl put me to sleep.

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Speaker 3: For about nine days. I get it. Let us news first.

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Speaker 8: That was terrible.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 15: First thing first, Tony, I know you were on the

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Speaker 15: rampage to get some bear cats onto the Bengals. But

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Speaker 15: you know, Austin Robertson's who old? And what about Nick

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Speaker 15: vann Exell? I think he's in his early fifties.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe probably he could probably still get He

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Speaker 3: could probably still get a bucket or two.

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Speaker 6: I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, he'd do something. Yes, we all question.

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Speaker 15: I know that that Austin had mentioned that today is

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Speaker 15: Michael Jordan's birthday. It's also Jim Brown's birthday. It's interesting

741
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Speaker 15: that those two guys were born on the same day

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Speaker 15: many years apart. Made Jim Brown rest in peace. But

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Speaker 15: I really wanted to talk about the baseball situation.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 15: Can baseball screw up a free lunch or what I mean?

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Speaker 15: It was such a great season last year, maybe the

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Speaker 15: best World Series ever, and here we are looking at

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Speaker 15: another labor shutdown a year from now. The only thing

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Speaker 15: I think that can work is they're not going to

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Speaker 15: share the TV money because it's so different, you know, Dodgers, Yankee,

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Speaker 15: Red Sox compared to say reds.

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Speaker 3: Pirates and Marlins.

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Speaker 15: But what they could do, and they used to do this,

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Speaker 15: they would share some of the ticket sales. So if

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Speaker 15: you sold so many tickets, whatever amount of money and tickets,

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Speaker 15: the visiting team would get like twenty five percent. Because

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Speaker 15: if I'm a visiting team and I'm the Cincinnati Reds

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Speaker 15: and I going to play the Dodgers for three games

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Speaker 15: and they bring in fifteen million dollars in ticket sales

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Speaker 15: for those three games, I'm part of the program. I'm

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Speaker 15: part of the stage. You know, I'm gonna want some

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Speaker 15: of that money. So that may be the only way

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Speaker 15: to revenue share because the TV's off limits. I think

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Speaker 15: what they may have to do is try to share

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Speaker 15: the gate of seventy five to twenty five whatever it

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Speaker 15: may be, because that that could kind of eating things out.

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Speaker 3: So now you.

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Speaker 4: Could have a floor.

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Speaker 15: I don't think he'll ever get to a ceiling, but

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Speaker 15: at least have a floor that the small market teams

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Speaker 15: can spend.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I think that's a fair way to look

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Speaker 3: at it with with again, it doesn't bode well with

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Speaker 3: Tony Clark stepping down today. It doesn't bode well with

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Speaker 3: where they are in the timing of these negotiations and

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Speaker 3: how fast this approaching. It just feels to me like

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Speaker 3: there are so many hurdles that need to be cleared

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Speaker 3: that a stoppage I don't know how long is imminent

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Speaker 3: for baseball.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, we know the players Union is not going to

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Speaker 15: back down at all, and enough owners are just in

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Speaker 15: a spot where they want some clarity here. So yeah,

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Speaker 15: I think we're gonna have a shutdown next year. But

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Speaker 15: enjoy this season, and it is too bad it's happening while

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Speaker 15: the game is making a great comeback. Fellas, there's always

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Speaker 15: a pleasure talking later.

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Speaker 3: On that sounds good. Have a great day. We uh.

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Speaker 3: I'm I think Baseball Austin they're trying to make the

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Speaker 3: game better in many areas. Like I don't fault them

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Speaker 3: for lack of effort. They're trying. They're working in different rules,

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Speaker 3: they're working in different initiatives. I get that, but it's

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Speaker 3: it does feel like the game was trending down a

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Speaker 3: couple of years ago, and I do feel like there

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Speaker 3: is more interest in the game now than there has been,

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Speaker 3: And it just feels like that could be for not

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Speaker 3: because you're staring down at this work stoppage which is

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Speaker 3: going to completely halt all momentum for the sport of baseball,

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Speaker 3: and rightfully so, you're going to have many other sports

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Speaker 3: waiting to capitalize on those fans, looking to take their

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Speaker 3: talents elsewhere and to take their viewing elsewhere. So do

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Speaker 3: you feel that do you feel like baseball as a

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Speaker 3: whole is and I'm not saying by leaps and bounds,

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Speaker 3: but do you feel like there's more interest in it

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Speaker 3: than maybe just a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like they've made a lot of progress.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know that their television ratings have been up.

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Speaker 4: I know that the pitch clock was a big part

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Speaker 4: of that. I think the national discourse around baseball has

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Speaker 4: been kind of at the top more than it has

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Speaker 4: been in the past. And I think that's because of

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Speaker 4: some waiting interest in college sports and the NIO era

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Speaker 4: and and a little bit of basketball. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think it's it's up there. I think it's it's interesting

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Speaker 4: to a lot of people in a lot of different markets.

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Speaker 4: And part of it is the criticism of owners, and

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Speaker 4: part of it is the idea of of somebody's got

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Speaker 4: to stop the Dodgers, somebody's got to stop the Mets.

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Speaker 4: Look at all this money that's being spent. That's part

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Speaker 4: of the conversation. It's not the biggest part of the conversation.

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Speaker 4: But I do think baseball's popularity is swinging back in

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Speaker 4: the right direction. And it feels like they've done this

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Speaker 4: several times over the years. Every time it starts to

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Speaker 4: get popular, there's a lock out, and I feel like

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Speaker 4: that's where.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the other teams, ye yah, everyone's gonna wait and

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Speaker 3: try to make this their moment to swoop in. It's

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Speaker 3: just it's terrible timing for a sport that is is

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Speaker 3: trying to get itself back.

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Speaker 4: Baseball has always gotten in its own way, over and

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Speaker 4: over and over again over the course of time, they've

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Speaker 4: gotten in their own way.

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Speaker 3: Yep, with out a doubt, we stand not to get

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Speaker 3: on our own way here. So we'll get out of

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Speaker 3: the way to welcome in enough time to get to

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Speaker 3: break and then Joe Daniman standing by to join us

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Speaker 3: from a Goodyear Red's Spring Training edition of Joe Danoman

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Speaker 3: happens next on the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Until.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: From Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is since e three sixty ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. And we move on to our

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Speaker 3: number two as we get started each and every Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit different today because we are talking

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Speaker 3: to our guy, Joe Danneman. But we're just talking to

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Speaker 3: uh the Joe Danoman Goodyear Edition. He's in Arizona, he's

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Speaker 3: covering spring training. Still making time for us, Joey d

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 8: So before I forget, gentlemen, As I was picking up

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Speaker 8: the phone to make this call, I walked by Charlie Goldsmith,

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Speaker 8: who was on a bench next to the mainfield where

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Speaker 8: Hunter Green will be throwing live batting practice. At about

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Speaker 8: thirty minutes, Charlie was sitting down to a meal of

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Speaker 8: a nice sandwich, a bag of chips, and a sprite

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Speaker 8: and he said, tell the guys. I said hi, So

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Speaker 8: Charlie Goldsmith says hello out here in Goodyear.

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Speaker 3: He's just there all the time.

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Speaker 8: I try to have the kind of work ethic where

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Speaker 8: you're the first person in and last one out. And

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Speaker 8: Charlie beats us every single day to the complex. I

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Speaker 8: don't know what he's doing here at seven am. At

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Speaker 8: least Jeremy and myself have TV equipment to set up.

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Speaker 8: It takes a good twenty minutes to get all that

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Speaker 8: set up before the guy even get here. But Charlie's there,

870
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 8: headphones on, get his work done, grinding, always grinding at

871
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 8: Red Spring training.

872
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: Charlie once told me about his philosophy in spring training

873
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: and getting there early, and he said, it is the

874
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 4: most important part of the day when you're the first

875
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: one in. And I won't divulge all of his secrets. Wow,

876
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not a surprise the guy gets it done.

877
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 4: And he said it's the most important and impactful part

878
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 4: of his day.

879
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 8: It amazes me every year. A how much guys notice

880
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 8: who does get here early? And b how early the

881
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 8: guys do get here Because they don't have a team

882
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 8: meeting until nine am local, I would say this place

883
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 8: is fully jumping at about seven thirty with guys getting

884
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 8: here early, trying to get loose, doing whatever they have

885
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 8: to do to get a jumpstart on the day. It's impressive.

886
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 8: Terry Francona even made note of that yesterday and we

887
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 8: talked to him. He said, it's impressive how ready the

888
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 8: guys are to get this going.

889
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: You guys have already been pumping out a ton of

890
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: awesome content with boots on the ground there in Arizona.

891
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: You've had a chance to talk to multiple multiple players.

892
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: I've seen conversations with Suarez and Friedel and Ellie and

893
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: Terry Francona. In the conversations you've had a chance to

894
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: have up to this point, are there things? Are there

895
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: messages that have stood out the most from different players?

896
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 8: Without question, Terry Francona set an expectation yesterday when they

897
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 8: had their meeting before the first full team workout of

898
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 8: spring training. But he said, guys, it's time to go.

899
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 8: The understanding being that last year, cool wild cards snuck

900
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 8: in had a taste. Don't forget that, Enjoy that, celebrate

901
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 8: that that's a good accomplishment. But at the same time,

902
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 8: now it's time to go. And I think that's been

903
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 8: echoed throughout that TJ. Friedel said it, yet yesterday au

904
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 8: Henio Suarez said it yesterday, the idea that we have

905
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 8: to have the mentality that we're here to win championships,

906
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 8: that the idea of getting to the playoffs is no

907
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 8: longer the goal. And even if they come up short

908
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 8: of that goal and you're in the same league as

909
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 8: the LA Dodgers, we get that. But I think that

910
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 8: has to be the mentality, and that's what they've said

911
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 8: so far, that it's time to go, That it's time

912
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 8: to graduate from just making the playoffs to now competing

913
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 8: to do damage in the playoffs and having at least

914
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 8: a mindset that this team's going to show up and

915
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 8: try to win a championship in twenty twenty six.

916
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 3: What do you make early on of you, Honeyo Suarez,

917
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: because now he comes back to the Reds as the

918
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: veteran presence, and I've seen different ports about him getting

919
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: out there early, him making an impact to get some

920
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: work in at first base and different things like that.

921
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: What have you seen from Smars, Because it would be

922
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: easy to come back in and kind of rely on

923
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 3: him the designated hitter. My track record already is what

924
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: it is. But it feels like that's not the approach

925
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: he's taken in his short time already at training camp,

926
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: at spring training.

927
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 8: Sooth, it was funny yesterday we're setting up to talk

928
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 8: to Aohanio and we're near about ten or fifteen fans

929
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 8: who are kind of straggling the fence, and they're yelling, hey, hey,

930
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 8: Henio hit forty hit fifty hard runs. And he's laughing,

931
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 8: and some guy yells, hey, get your four hundreds this year,

932
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 8: and Sora turns around and says, you know, I would

933
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 8: have to hit seventy five home runs this year to

934
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 8: get to four hundred. I mean, these are the kind

935
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 8: of expectations. Now, he says he loves it, he loves

936
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 8: the fact that people have the kind of expectations to

937
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 8: hit forty or fifty hard runs. But he said, listen,

938
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 8: I'm not a superhero. I'm not here to carry this

939
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 8: team or be the missing piece. I'm here to help

940
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 8: this team and do whatever I can to help this

941
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 8: team in the middle of the order and provide that pop.

942
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 8: But more than that. In Austin, you and I talked

943
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 8: about it on Sunday on WLW. Was the idea of

944
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 8: his presence kind of feels like a magnet right now

945
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 8: for the younger Spanish speaking players. So the red start

946
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 8: of the day, they went out and they did some pallisthenics,

947
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 8: they did jumping jackson and running, all the stuff you

948
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 8: do to get ready, and then they broke off to

949
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 8: go throw and they typically pair up and there's this

950
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 8: little group right of noelbe Marte, Edwin Arroyo, au Hennio

951
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 8: Suarez and Elie de la Cruz all kind of around

952
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 8: each other having a good time, laughing, joking, And I

953
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 8: think that's important. And I don't know if it takes

954
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 8: any pressure off of Ellie. Certainly his presence in the

955
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 8: lineup takes some pressure off of Ellie, but just having

956
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 8: him here almost like a guy who has experience, has

957
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 8: the same kind of life experience of learning the language

958
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 8: and getting into the league in America, and I think

959
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 8: that's important for Elie to have around. So he kind

960
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 8: of feels like not only the production in the middle

961
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 8: of the lineup is important that that's why they got him.

962
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 8: That's why Terry Francona stopped his car on the highway

963
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 8: out here and called Bob Castellini and said he thanked

964
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 8: him for making that move. But you can see he's

965
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 8: kind of a magnet with his personalities as the young

966
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 8: Spanish speaking players, and I think that's really important for

967
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 8: both Noelvie Marte and Ellie de la Cruz.

968
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: I've seen the interview with Ellie de la Cruz and

969
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: you just think of last year and how he played

970
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: in the second half and news coming out after that

971
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: of him not being one hundred percent, and then you

972
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: flash forward to the conversation that you mentioned that Terry

973
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 3: Francona had about you know, some of these young players

974
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: and now it's time to take that next step. How

975
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: do you feel that translates with Ellie de la Cruz.

976
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 3: Have you seen a difference have noticed a difference early

977
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: on in Ellie de la Cruz compared to previous springs.

978
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 8: The first thing you notice when you get out here

979
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 8: with Ellie is he looks completely different in the upper

980
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 8: half of his body. And he told us yesterday he

981
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 8: went from two five to two seventeen, and I said,

982
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 8: all twelve pounds in your biceps, because he looks that

983
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 8: different in his upper body. He said, what did you

984
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 8: eat everything you could? Did you lift everything? Equody that

985
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 8: I did everything I could to put on weight. And

986
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 8: the idea is that he felt like he wore down

987
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 8: a little bit as the year wore on, and it's

988
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 8: not just the quad injury that that really affected him.

989
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 8: He thinks he needed to put on some strength, some

990
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 8: weight to last the whole season. Now, I said one

991
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 8: sixty two last year, you played them all. Do you

992
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 8: think that was a mistake. He said, I don't think

993
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 8: it was a mistake. He said, if I'm healthy and available,

994
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 8: I should play every single day. Now, that's one thing

995
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 8: for him to say that. Obviously, the Reds are going

996
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 8: to take a different path this year and they're going

997
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 8: to find ways to rest him and not make him

998
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 8: play all one sixty two. But that's the mindset he

999
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 8: has every year. We talked to him. He said, you know,

1000
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 8: what's the number home run the stolen bases? And he

1001
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 8: shakes his said he's like, you know, I don't care

1002
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 8: about those numbers. He again said one sixty two and

1003
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 8: I think the mindset for him is if I'm healthy

1004
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 8: and I'm available to play every day, then numbers will

1005
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 8: take care of himself. So I said, you don't care

1006
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 8: about the stolen bases, the home runs, the All Star Games?

1007
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 8: He said, no, no, no, I care about the All Star Games.

1008
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 8: So that still means a lot to Ellie de la

1009
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 8: Cruz to be able to get that on his resume

1010
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 8: now is a two time All Star. But certainly, even

1011
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 8: talking to salth Stewart yesterday, and I didn't know this

1012
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 8: about Ellie, he said he goes out of his way

1013
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 8: for anybody that's new to the team or a young

1014
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 8: player to go up, introduce himself be available to that player.

1015
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 8: And I thought that was interesting that came on solicited

1016
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 8: from south Stewart yesterday saying that about Ellie. So maybe

1017
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 8: that's part of the growth as well. But certainly the

1018
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 8: big change for him is how he looks physically. I

1019
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 8: haven't seen him wear a sleeve yet, not in the

1020
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 8: two days I've been here. He's not wearing any sleeve.

1021
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 8: What's everybody to see the arms? He looks great, and

1022
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 8: outside of that, it looks like the same Ellie. Quiet

1023
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 8: but energetic, but this year absolutely bigger and has more

1024
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 8: weight on to try to get through a season a.

1025
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: Sleeveless Definitely a move he learned from you, Joe. You

1026
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: mentioned earlier in our conversations that you knew the Reds

1027
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: would be ready to compete when they invested in the bullpen.

1028
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: They did that this offseason. What have you seen from

1029
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 4: any of those bullpen arms. Have you gotten a chance

1030
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: to get a look at at him at all? And

1031
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 4: what's the buzz, what's the conversation around those new additions

1032
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 4: in the bullpen.

1033
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 8: I've seen Pierce Johnson and I've seen Caleb Ferguson. Pierce

1034
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 8: Johnson was very impressive yesterday during live batting practice. I

1035
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 8: mean he faced the best of what the Red tab.

1036
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 8: He faced noelvi Marte, he faced Eli de la Cruz,

1037
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 8: he faced Spencer Steer and Noelvie got the best of

1038
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 8: them after along at bat solid single, but he struck

1039
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 8: out La de la Cruz. He got Aohetio Suarez on

1040
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 8: a week round or to shortstop. So his stuff plays

1041
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 8: and plays really well so far here in spring training.

1042
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 8: Caleb Ferguson looked good on the mound yesterday as well.

1043
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 8: I'll have to say, this guys, the guy that's impressing

1044
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 8: everybody in me the most, not only with his ability,

1045
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 8: but his demeanor is Chase Burns. And you talk about

1046
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 8: the competition for the fifth spot, and certainly Brandon Williamson's

1047
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 8: in the conversation RT. Louder, Certainly in the conversation if

1048
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 8: everybody's healthy leaving spring trading, there's no competition. It is

1049
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 8: Chase Burns. He is his demeanor on the mound, of

1050
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 8: his presence on the mound, how competitive he was yesterday

1051
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 8: pitching live batting practice, you know, dropping f bombs under

1052
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 8: his breath, yelling into his glove. I mean, it's a

1053
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 8: second day of full team workouts and this guy's out

1054
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 8: there throwing like it looks like it's a playoffs game.

1055
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 8: So his stuff we all know about, but his demeanor

1056
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 8: and competitive fire out here at spring training looks different

1057
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 8: to me from everybody else. That's a guy right now.

1058
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 8: I would circle right and say he's got a big

1059
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 8: season coming up if he stays healthy, because he just

1060
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 8: looks like he's ready and it's only February, and he

1061
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 8: looks like a guy that really really wants that job,

1062
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 8: and I think it's going to be his as long

1063
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 8: as he's healthy.

1064
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 4: Despite the optimism that a lot of us here in

1065
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: Cincinnati field Joe the projections, whether it's Peakota or Fangrafts

1066
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 4: or the guy on ESPN and saying that the pitching

1067
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 4: staff is not going to be that good. They don't

1068
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: really like the Reds for whatever reason. Is that something

1069
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: that maybe is motivating to them. Has that been talked

1070
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 4: about at all? And how do you or what do

1071
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: you make of that? The projection's not really expecting much

1072
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 4: from the Reds.

1073
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, one's really talking them, And I think the

1074
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 8: projections are wrong. I've seen this team now it's spring

1075
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 8: training twelve or thirteen different times, and this is a

1076
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 8: playoff team the way I see it, the way it

1077
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 8: looks right now with everybody in camp and everybody healthy,

1078
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 8: that they have the look from starting pitching, starting pitching depths, bullpen, lineup, versatility.

1079
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know if it's a World Series team.

1080
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 8: I mean, they are in the same league again as

1081
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Speaker 8: the LA Dodgers. I get that, but this looks like

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Speaker 8: a playoff team. This looks like a National League Central

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Speaker 8: contending team. That this team looks better than last year.

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Speaker 8: I asked Terry Francona, are you guys better than you

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Speaker 8: were last year? He said, we have to be. We

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Speaker 8: better be and he pointed right to the bullpen as

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Speaker 8: the first thing. He didn't talk about au Henio Suarez.

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Speaker 8: You didn't talk about the young core of players that

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Speaker 8: need to take another step, the Matt McClain, the Lli

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Speaker 8: Dailor Cruise and everybody else that we always talk about.

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Speaker 8: But he talked about the bullpen, and he thought the

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Speaker 8: bullpen was going to be a difference maker for this

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Speaker 8: team this year. And I'm with them. You mentioned it,

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00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 8: I'll know the Reds are series about competing when they

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Speaker 8: started investing in the bullpen. They did that, and then

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Speaker 8: they went above budget and brought in difference makers like

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Speaker 8: Aohnio Suarez. So no matter what people predict about this team,

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Speaker 8: having eyeballs on this team now for a couple of

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Speaker 8: days and understanding what they were last year and what

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Speaker 8: the ceiling is for some of those young players, and

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Speaker 8: of course the new additions, this looks like a playoff

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Speaker 8: team and possibly a National League Central winning team.

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Speaker 3: I have to ask. We heard recently from Terry Francona

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Speaker 3: talking about South Stuart. He said he's one of the

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Speaker 3: most advanced young hitters he's ever seen. I know you

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Speaker 3: guys had a chance to catch up with south Stuart,

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Speaker 3: and I know Rookie of the Year is a thing

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Speaker 3: that is high on his list. If South Stuart is

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Speaker 3: in the running for Rookie of the Year this year,

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Speaker 3: what difference does that mean for the outlook of this

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Speaker 3: Reds team in your opinion?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that goes back to the versatility, because you know,

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Speaker 8: we know he can hit. He wants to prove he

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Speaker 8: can play defense at first AA at an elite level,

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Speaker 8: and that frees up Spencer Steer to play at the outfield,

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Speaker 8: get some second base. He's obviously a proven first baseman

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Speaker 8: as well. But how about south Stewart writing Roy on

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00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 8: his bedroom door out here at Arizona, so he sees

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00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 8: it every night before he goes asleep, and he sees

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Speaker 8: it every morning when he wakes up that he wants

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Speaker 8: to win Rookie of the Year. I think we forget

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Speaker 8: the guy only played eighteen games in the regular season

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Speaker 8: last year and in the two playoff games as well,

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Speaker 8: so you know, he hasn't had a lot of time

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Speaker 8: in the big leagues. And he talked today and yesterday

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Speaker 8: about the idea of he doesn't have to prove it

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Speaker 8: to himself. He knows he can compete at this level.

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Speaker 8: He knows he can hit at this level. He said

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Speaker 8: he felt comfortable in the environment in the playoffs, so

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Speaker 8: he knows he can translate to that kind of moment.

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Speaker 8: But he said he has to prove it to Terry Francona,

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Speaker 8: that he has to prove to Terry Francona that he

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00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 8: can earn it. And the thing about him is he said,

1134
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Speaker 8: when I got drafted, you know, I wanted to earn

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Speaker 8: everything I got. That was never the dream to get drafted,

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Speaker 8: never the dream to play in the big leagues. He said,

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00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 8: the dream was to play twenty years in the big

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Speaker 8: leagues and for people to wear my jersey and remember

1139
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Speaker 8: me in Cincinnati. So South Stewart, he has a good season,

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Speaker 8: and I think we all expect him to have a

1141
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 8: good season Offensively, He's going to be a fan favorite

1142
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 8: really soon. With the way he carries himself, the way

1143
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 8: he talks about himself and the way he talks about

1144
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Speaker 8: the team. I put him as my number one most

1145
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 8: favorite interview we've done out here so far. And what

1146
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 8: a nickname Salvert.

1147
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 3: Because people say that a first.

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00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 8: Baseman they can hit, so they're calling him Salver. I mean,

1149
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 8: no pressure, could just go be Albert Cooholes. But I

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 8: love his attitude, his demeanor, and his unselfish attitude when

1151
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 8: it comes to doing whatever he needs to do to

1152
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 8: get on the field and and prove he deserves to play.

1153
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 3: There is there's also from a Major League Baseball as

1154
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: a whole standard, there's a little uneasiness about news that

1155
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: came down today. The executive director of the Major League

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00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: Baseball Players Association, Tony Clark, resigned this before he was

1157
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: set to do a lot of meetings out in spring training.

1158
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: Of course, there are labor disputes that are coming up.

1159
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: Has anyone discussed this much around spring training and the

1160
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: news of Tony Clark resigning today?

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Speaker 8: It was talked about this morning. Now. The reds PR

1162
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 8: director came to the media as we got started today

1163
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 8: and said, anybody who wants to ask any questions to

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 8: the players about Tony Clark, we would point you towards

1165
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 8: Tyler Stevenson, who is the player rep. Now, I don't

1166
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 8: know if Tyler's talked yet today or if he did,

1167
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 8: And I wasn't part of it. I wasn't around for it.

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Speaker 8: I'm interested to hear what Tyler Stevenson has to say

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00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 8: about that. That was interesting. You know what else was

1170
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 8: interesting too was Terry Francona was talking today about the

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 8: ABS system and the idea of challenging and the Reds

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00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 8: play their first spring training game on Saturday, and he said, basically,

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00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 8: right now in spring he's going to give the pitchers

1174
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 8: and the catchers free reign to challenge. Just go out there,

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01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 8: if you feel the call is wrong, go ahead and

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Speaker 8: challenge it. Not going to let the pitchers do it.

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Speaker 8: It's going to be a catchers and batters thing only,

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Speaker 8: and so they can get a better feel for it

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01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 8: and start to develop a strategy as they get towards

1180
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Speaker 8: the regular season. The other thing he said is he

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01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 8: doesn't want guys to use the challenges selfishly. So if

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Speaker 8: a player's in the slump and they have two strikes

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Speaker 8: and a strike three is called, and its border line

1184
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 8: of the guys like I just need to hit, I

1185
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 8: need to get on base somehow, and I'm going to

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 8: burn the challenge.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't want that.

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Speaker 8: He said, that can't be the way they use challenges,

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Speaker 8: So that's been discussed, but they're still developing a strategy

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Speaker 8: and I think we'll see that strategy not only here

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Speaker 8: in Cincinnati, but across the league. He made a great point,

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01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 8: he said, everybody's in the same boat, right You're trying

1193
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 8: to figure out the best strategy to use this once

1194
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 8: the regular season gets going.

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Speaker 3: Anything that folks should be on the lookout for, as

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Speaker 3: your guys coverage at Fox nineteen continues to explode from

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01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: spring training. Anything to keep an eye on, well.

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Speaker 8: I hope you've got planned tonight at eight o'clock to

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Speaker 8: join us as we are live on all of Fox

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Speaker 8: nineteen Now's streaming platforms as Cincinnati Sports Show goes live

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01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 8: from Red Spring Training for a second straight night. If

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01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 8: you didn't see it last night, just check out my

1203
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 8: social media. I posted links there. We archived it and

1204
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 8: you can watch it that way. It's basically Jeremy and

1205
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 8: I's podcast talking about everything we saw that day, all

1206
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 8: the interviews we did. We share our best interviews from

1207
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 8: the day. It's nice twenty to thirty minute show. So

1208
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 8: we'll be doing that again tonight and plus all over

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01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 8: Fox nineteen Now on all of our newscasts throughout the day.

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01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 8: The big day sun is finally out out here. The

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01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 8: ground is absolutely soaked because we had a monsoon last

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01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 8: night overnight. Currently, I'm outside of the indoor cages where

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 8: the batters are inside, getting some hacks. And then we've

1214
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 8: got Hunter Green throwing Live VP in just minutes here

1215
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 8: in Arizona.

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01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: Do we know who Hunter is going to be facing?

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01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 4: Has that been revealed yet?

1218
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 17: It is?

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01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 8: If you can hang on, Oh, I'm gonna put you sure, Yeah,

1220
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 8: still hear me?

1221
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 3: Okay, have it written.

1222
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 8: Down on my phone.

1223
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 18: Here we go.

1224
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 8: Let's see who Hunter is battling inside Live VP today.

1225
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 8: So it's gonna be Hunter Green and Brandon Williamson. Uh

1226
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 8: not not the headlining group JJ, Blade Blake done, Nathaniel Lowe,

1227
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 8: Dane Myers, and Salbert south Stewart again. Get your popcorn

1228
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 8: ready for south Stewart against Hunter Green.

1229
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 4: Speaking of popcorn, I want to leave you with this, Joe,

1230
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 4: you mentioned when you first joined us, what Charlie was

1231
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 4: having for lunch?

1232
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: What are you having for lunch?

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01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 8: I literally do not eat at Red Spring Training. I

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01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 8: will wake up in the morning, I will when I

1235
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 8: get to the complex. I'll have some kind of a

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01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 8: protein bar that I packed before I left home, and

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Speaker 8: I will not eat until probably nine o'clock eastern tonight.

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01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 8: You know, Maurice Kloret once told me something about eating, Guys.

1239
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 8: I had an interview with Maurice cool Rag. We were

1240
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 8: making small talk after the fact and about about eating

1241
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 8: dinner or whatever. He said, I always equate eating with relaxing,

1242
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 8: and I'm the same way. I don't want to relax

1243
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 8: here at Red Spring Training until the work is done,

1244
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 8: and I won't eat until I can relax. And I

1245
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 8: can't relax until I'm done, so I will wait until

1246
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Speaker 8: all the.

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Speaker 6: Work is done.

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01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 8: Today after our live streaming show, Jeremy and I will

1249
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 8: get some Mexican food.

1250
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 5: Did you guys know.

1251
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 8: Our airbnb has a hot tub?

1252
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: No? How about that home.

1253
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 8: I'm going to send you guys a picture tonight of

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01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 8: Jeremy Row in the hot tub with a cigar. Happened

1255
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 8: last night? Hot tub cigar and a corese light for

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01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 8: Jeremy Row and Night one.

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Speaker 4: How can you, guys, I mean, is there a way

1258
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 4: to do the show.

1259
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 8: From the live stream from the hot tub?

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01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 3: Yes?

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 8: Phenomenal. Absolutely, We can't don't know where you put the microphones,

1262
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 8: but yeah, we can do it.

1263
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, work on that.

1264
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: We'll be And before you left, speaking of uh of content,

1265
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: you you spent a little portion of your evening at

1266
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 3: Reading High School as well on Friday night before heading out.

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Speaker 3: What's your what's your biggest takeaway from the high school?

1268
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 8: That I have no idea what a chuck a duck is.

1269
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 3: And yet you didn't stay for it.

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Speaker 8: The guy said, bless his herd. You said you're gonna

1271
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 8: miss the chuck a duck. I said, I'm gonna miss

1272
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 8: the GCL championship.

1273
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: If I don't leave you.

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01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 8: Oh, you're going to Moller and State X. Yes, I'm

1275
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 8: going to Molar and State AX.

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Speaker 5: I have to go.

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Speaker 8: What is a chuck a duck?

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01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 3: From my understanding, they take a bunch of ducks. You

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Speaker 3: buy ducks throughout the course of the half, and then

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01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: at halftime you throw it at a target in the

1282
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 3: middle of the floor, and closest to the middle wins

1283
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: a prize.

1284
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,959
Speaker 8: Chuck a duck, add chuck a duck.

1285
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: Figure it out.

1286
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 8: I'm making you back. You're a quarterback. You went to Reading,

1287
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 8: you win that, so I'm taking you with my ringer.

1288
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: He can't throw that usually done. Thank you, damn bye,

1289
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 3: goy you he said, bye, got you eat? Talkbacks come next.

1290
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 4: A shame, it's a shame. They're not having any fun

1291
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 4: out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I would, I'd stream the talk, the hot

1293
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: tub conversations. It's funny.

1294
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 4: I can't wait for him to send us that picture

1295
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 4: because I have a similar picture that I send right

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Speaker 4: back to him. Man of me hot tub talk Danniman

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01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 4: in real hot tub time machine. Throw Chuck Goldsmith in there,

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01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 4: although he's probably in bed, but.

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Speaker 3: No, Charlie's at the facility. Yeah, or they're doing that still.

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Speaker 3: We will be back with your talkbacks on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 7: Hey Google, get No one covers the Bengals like ESPN

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01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 7: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 19: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone,

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 19: please keep it clean and don't be mean, and a sprinkle, sprinkle,

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01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 19: drip drips.

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01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 20: It's our favorite part of since three sixty So Austin, buddy,

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01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 20: play those talkbacks on your screen and please dride now

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Speaker 20: to cybertage.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go with the Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 3: Talkbos ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 21: Happy Tuesday, guys, hope you had a good long weekend.

1315
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 21: The outing of Sinci shirts was successful. Tons of people in,

1316
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 21: they're buying some merch. Myself was there, Carl was there,

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01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 21: We got here, Mary Quimby.

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01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 22: I was there.

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 23: And this Sceh Fishes occasion with my favorite political brother,

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01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 23: probably Navan mother former TalkBank creating at Ronald Reagan and guys,

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01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 23: we are twenty DJ pay you that man turner days

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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 23: away from the tam free window being open in the end.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, not looking at Red's opening day number, but

1324
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: tampering numbers today. I like that from Kevin. What's up guys,

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 3: Big hood an Katucky.

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Speaker 17: I want to touch on that Saint John's Providence dust

1327
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 17: up over the weekend with Duncan Powwall right at Bryce

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Speaker 17: Hopkins next.

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Speaker 3: I see nothing wrong with it.

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01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 17: Bryce Hopkins had the nerve last year to be at Providence,

1331
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 17: played three games and sent out. Use the training room,

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01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 17: Take seven hundred and fifty thousand nil, use all the trainers,

1333
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 17: eat all the free food, take all the free flights.

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01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 17: What did he expect to happen? He got what he deserved.

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01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 17: We need more of that. I wish the coach Kim

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 17: Meaghis would have doubled down on him, Baptist players John

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 17: Chainty and Bob.

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01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 3: Huggins would have. Yeah, that was an intense, intense I believe,

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Speaker 3: six ejections in the game. It's just it's it's kind

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01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: of what the sport is now though, you're gonna see

1341
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: more and more of that.

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Speaker 11: Obscure reds up the day and honor them. Thirty seven

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 11: days to Loopy Day, Freel for Meer dot Elpans and

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 11: of course the legendary.

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Speaker 3: For mill Right. And it's hard to go anywhere else

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Speaker 3: other than quirky on a day like today.

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01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 4: People forget that Scott Feldman started on opening day.

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01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the great Now and since twenty twenty

1349
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 3: has rocked the number thirty seven any other not of course,

1350
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: one of the Nasty Boys, Norm Charlton.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had the whole list. I figured I would

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01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 4: do a segment as well.

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 6: I'm going to try to get through this without cracking up.

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 24: I have a start bench cut, and you can't say

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01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 24: none of them got to You gotta start bench cut them.

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01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 24: If you were forced into the naked winter Olympics start

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01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 24: bench cut the following competitions, Men's hockey, men's downhill, Men's lose.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to cut the luge.

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01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 4: I'll probably bench the hockey just because there's a lack

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,959
Speaker 4: of protection there, and I'll cut or I'll start the downhill.

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01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 3: None really painted an awesome picture, did you not hear him? Yeah?

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01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 4: So you can't say none. You you do this all

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 4: the time, you weasel your way out of these start

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Speaker 4: bench cuts.

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01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't finished talking. I was cut off. I say,

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01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 3: none paint a great picture, But I'd have to start

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: the downhill and then lose. Can they still wear a helmet? No,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean safety first, I would. I

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: would for this exercise, We'll say yes, all right, I'll

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01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 3: bench lose and then I'll cut hockey because that's just

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01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: too much going on.

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Speaker 12: Tony my main man, Austin. Did you guys see that

1373
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 12: UC is so bad? If you lose to them at home,

1374
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 12: you get fired.

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Speaker 4: It's fun.

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01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 3: Wow, you must be talking about the team in the

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01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: top sixty five of the net and winners of three

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 3: in a row in the Big Twelve, the hardest basketball

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01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: conference in college basketball. But yes, go ahead, with that.

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Speaker 8: In honor of fat Tuesday.

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01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 12: I was thinking of Bobbie Bouche and the Muddow football team,

1382
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 12: and I was gonna do a start bench cut on

1383
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 12: Adam Sandler football characters. But he's only played in two movies.

1384
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 12: So start bench cut Bobby Bouche, Paul Cruise from the

1385
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 12: Longest Yard, and Shane Falco from the Replacements.

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01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 3: I gotta start the water boy, I will bench Falco

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Speaker 3: and Cruise.

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 4: You said that I'm starting Paul Crew from the Longest Yard. No,

1389
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut. I'm gonna bench Shane Falco from the replacements.

1390
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna cut Bobby Bouche.

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01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 3: You that conversation that I had with bobcast a lady where.

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01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 25: He looked at me and smiled and said, we're not

1393
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 25: done yet. I didn't think that meant handing total rains

1394
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:00,759
Speaker 25: over to Phil.

1395
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 26: Where are you're gonna go?

1396
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,440
Speaker 3: Castolini?

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01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 4: God Lord, I don't think it did. I think it

1398
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: meant we're gonna go sign Nathaniel Lowe.

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Speaker 27: Ye ye, Hi, guys, missed you yesterday, Austin. I get

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 27: very very nervous and uncomfortable watching those MMA things too.

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01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 27: I think it's so barbaric. You know, I I I

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 27: respect every athlete, but oh man, I think there's some

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01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 27: deep rooted evil in that kind of fighting. Sorry, Tony,

1404
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,560
Speaker 27: but yeah, it's just too barbaric for me. Have a

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01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 27: good day, guys, think.

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01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: Spring Okay, hmm.

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01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 4: H aj It seems as if your your mic wasn't on.

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 28: A shout out to my boy, my son Eastern Branny.

1409
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 28: He was named Jim See play Bowler of the Year,

1410
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 28: just qualified for districts. Just now, very proud of the

1411
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 28: young man. NBA All Star weekend. Have a great day, guys.

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01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 28: There you go.

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01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 3: I thought the game itself was good, I thought the

1414
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 3: rest of it was pretty lackluster.

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01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 29: Hey, guys, Jeff and you rich menagement Hey, so was

1416
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 29: thinking about the Jerome Tang firing and I'm with you, guys.

1417
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: K State has no chance in winning that.

1418
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 29: You know, if you were going to fire him, then

1419
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 29: you should have done it the day after they lost

1420
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 29: to UC to let him coach another game and then

1421
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 29: do it. There's no way they're gonna win that.

1422
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 18: Now.

1423
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 3: I have a feeling it would get pretty ugly for

1424
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 3: Kansas State the longer this goes on.

1425
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 30: Hello, this is former President Ronald Again. Man Will I'd

1426
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 30: like to thank everyone who came out to Cinci, Sherets

1427
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,959
Speaker 30: and Port Mitchell on Saturday. We had Kevin in Northern Kentucky,

1428
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 30: Carl Mayor, Quimby, Bob and Burlington. Oh and Bob Huggins

1429
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 30: was just outside the door. He didn't come in. Oscar

1430
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 30: Robertson was a no show. We did have former President

1431
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 30: Gerald Ford. He came in, but we threw him out

1432
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 30: after he asked if they had any Michigan gear.

1433
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: The nerve Yeah, well said.

1434
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 31: You know, Tony, you might have played in a couple

1435
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 31: of games in your day. I'm playing a couple games too,

1436
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 31: you know, I'm an athlete as well. But I don't

1437
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 31: know if you were playing the game as big as

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01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 31: this one at two pm at the Evandale Rec Center.

1439
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm not sure you know what's coming.

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 31: I don't think i've heard you haven't been able to

1441
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 31: sleep lately because you're so nervous.

1442
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 6: I get it.

1443
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 31: People's head like a nightmare, you know. But hey, seg

1444
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 31: said they might be getting us on one of the stations,

1445
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 31: maybe moving the reds off.

1446
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1447
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 6: That's just the word on the street.

1448
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 31: But like I said, I heard Tony can't sleep, he's nervous,

1449
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 31: he's shaken vomit on his sweater already.

1450
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they call it the Hayes and the

1451
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 3: Barn And while we do, we do face our good

1452
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,799
Speaker 3: friend Liam on Sunday and Evendale Rec League at two o'clock.

1453
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 3: I am certainly not worried, as I've already kind of

1454
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 3: disclosed to Austin how that game is going to go.

1455
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: Not worried about it. I'm just hoping that all of

1456
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 3: our team can be there and not suspended by the

1457
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: league for some actions from Sunday.

1458
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, my sources are telling me that

1459
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 4: there is going to be an increased police presence on

1460
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 4: the scene at the Evandale Rec Center.

1461
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: Yep, you would be correct.

1462
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 26: This is Quinn from Oakley. I have her turn back

1463
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 26: from a honeymoon and the funny text I got from

1464
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 26: a group chat is about UC's blowout winds over UC

1465
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 26: at Kansas State. Obviously, I was traveling internationally on the

1466
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 26: cruise line, so when I had time on my phone,

1467
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 26: they say, just Quinn, just stay out of the way.

1468
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 26: They're blowing out everybody. And I said, well, I get

1469
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 26: back on Sunday. But on Sunday. I barely squeaked out

1470
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 26: a way. I thought that was the funniest thing.

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Speaker 3: Might be well, First of all, congratulations on the wedding

1472
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 3: of the honeymoon. Second of all, go ahead and get

1473
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 3: back out of the country at least until March.

1474
01:14:55,479 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 32: Town snack Camp. This is girth Brooks Austin. You make

1475
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 32: the point about Jordan being the best ever. Agreed, But

1476
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 32: when it comes to being the best there was, the

1477
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 32: best there is and the best ever will be that

1478
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 32: title belongs to Brett the hit Man Heart Tony, I

1479
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 32: assure you can agree, yes. And also Andrew Abbitt. He's awesome.

1480
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 32: He's like our poor man's Greg Maddicks. You don't see

1481
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 32: guys pitch like that too much nowadays. I appreciate him.

1482
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 4: The professor.

1483
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 3: I like man like that.

1484
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 4: Who is Brett the hit Man Heart?

1485
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 3: Who's that? He's one of the best ww wrestlers of

1486
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 3: all time? Never heard of brother of the late Owen Hart,

1487
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 3: the Lord.

1488
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 33: I gotta start bench cut for your bucket list of

1489
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 33: sports events, Okay, the Masters, the Men's basketball tournament, or

1490
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:47,759
Speaker 33: the super Bowl.

1491
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,839
Speaker 3: I'll start the super Bowl. I will bench the NCAA tournament,

1492
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 3: and I will cut the Masters.

1493
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 4: Who he's never been further apart, you are.

1494
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 3: A how many NCAA tournament games is a clown?

1495
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 4: Take like four three?

1496
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not talking about the Dayton ones. Those count. Now,

1497
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm talking about when you take over, you and a

1498
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 3: fan base, takeover a whole city. Nothing better, nothing better.

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01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 4: Uh my bucket list of sports events. I would start

1500
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 4: the Masters, I would bench the super Bowl, and I

1501
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 4: would cut the NCAA t.

1502
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 3: And there's part of me that that likes to say

1503
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: that because that would insinuate that you See made it

1504
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: back to an NCAA tournament, which would mean something.

1505
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 4: I'm going to use your words against you, just just

1506
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 4: so you know if you See makes it in and

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01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 4: if they do, they'll be playing in Dayton because they

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01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 4: don't deserve to be there.

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01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 3: And I know, but.

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01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 6: You you do.

1511
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 4: You just made it sound like those games don't count.

1512
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 3: And then wherever they go from Dayton, I'll follow them

1513
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: to that well, back to Cincinnati. Yeah for a day Oh.

1514
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 34: To say and you Abbott is a lucky pitcher, that's

1515
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 34: disrespectful to him. I thought the NBA All Star Game

1516
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 34: was the best it's been in a long time.

1517
01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: Getting credit for that.

1518
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 34: The Sheuston, Iowa State game was phenomenal last night. Miami

1519
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 34: of Ohio is gonna have a challenge on their hands

1520
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 34: tonight at UMass. If they win that one, I think

1521
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 34: they should go undefeated.

1522
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 35: Come on, come on, Austin, Tony Leroy down here in

1523
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 35: foulmath you. I had a nice talk back yesterday Taylor

1524
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 35: to Austin regarding his seven hundred w l W show

1525
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 35: on Sunday, and it was wasted on Chad Brenda.

1526
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 3: It had a it had Khalib Downs in it, It.

1527
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 35: Had a it had Joe D's arms getting tired from flying.

1528
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. And it even had beaten Ryan Kenyon mules.

1529
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm sorry I missed it. Enjoyed it and find it.

1530
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think like Chad would be like, hey, this

1531
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: talkback was left. I hear it.

1532
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 4: On Sunday. I was on w l W and a

1533
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 4: caller called in talk about how he doesn't think the

1534
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 4: Bengals can pass up on Khalib Downs. I said, who,

1535
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 4: he said, Khalibs? He said, what about Caleb him too?

1536
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: Hey, Tony Nason, I got an idea for you.

1537
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 14: How about hot tub talkbacks with Tony and Austin maybe

1538
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 14: on an opening day or something.

1539
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 2: Now you got time to think about it.

1540
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: You know what kind of drink you're going to have,

1541
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: what kind of baiting suit you're gonna wear.

1542
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: Come on, now, let us know what you think. Start

1543
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: planning it. You got time.

1544
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 4: People are already mean enough to me the way I

1545
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 4: look with my shirt on, so I'm probably gonna stay

1546
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 4: away from taking my shirt off the public event.

1547
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: Something like that would have to be sold, So I'm

1548
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: pretty confident that we don't have to. I don't know that.

1549
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: I don't know that I would if it's sold, I'm

1550
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 3: doing it.

1551
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 36: People want to say, sure, Lebron ruin the dunk contest. Yes,

1552
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 36: it's a huge travesty for the event.

1553
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: I'll win up it.

1554
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 36: Adam Dunn declining the home run to Derby twice two

1555
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 36: thousand and two and twenty twelve, that is the biggest

1556
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 36: travesty in sports. I mean we would even be talking

1557
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 36: about Josh Hamilton. I'm done, would have hit ten home runs,

1558
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 36: maybe five five hundred and fifty foot home runs.

1559
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, it is one of the biggest what

1560
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 3: ifs I believe in sports. What if Adam Done would

1561
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: have just said yes.

1562
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 4: Can you imagine the stack cast broadcast of the Donkey

1563
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 4: A Donkey home runner.

1564
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 3: There might have also been one of the only derby

1565
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 3: participants ever to swing and miss at like eight pitches.

1566
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 22: Brandon low better acquisition than au Hadeo Suarez, a superb

1567
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 22: piece to come off the bench.

1568
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 4: I said it, Wow, Well, Brandon low doesn't play for

1569
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 4: the Reds.

1570
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: That is h that's brand Le.

1571
01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 4: Brandon Lowe plays for the Pirates. I think he's talking

1572
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 4: about Nathaniel Love and I would disagree. Yeah, but I

1573
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 4: understand where he's coming from. To each their own, Yeah,

1574
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 4: that was our last one. To each their own, I'll

1575
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 4: give them that, man, Brandon. That would have been nice though,

1576
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 4: to this team would have been nice. Little addition, we

1577
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 4: still have what two segments left. Let's can we do

1578
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 4: an Olympic update when we come back?

1579
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 8: Sure?

1580
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: Can we update the games?

1581
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 4: We Sure can.

1582
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: We'll do that next on the Home of the Bengals

1583
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1584
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: Are three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1585
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: Welcome back since the three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1586
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 3: Sports or Station. The Olympics continue on in Milan. The

1587
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: updated Metal count Norway starting to run away with things.

1588
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 3: They were the favorites coming into the Games. Thirty total

1589
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 3: medals that headlined by thirteen gold medals. That leads the way.

1590
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 3: The host nation Italy second with twenty four total medals,

1591
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 3: nine of them being gold, and then the Americans sit

1592
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,799
Speaker 3: in third twenty total medals for the Red, White, and Blue,

1593
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 3: six of those medals gold, nine of those medals silver.

1594
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 3: They lead Japan by just one total medal. Right now,

1595
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 3: now the good news. The women's Olympic hockey team has

1596
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 3: tied a record, I believe, four straight matches without allowing

1597
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: a goal. They Thursday will take on Canada in the

1598
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: gold medal match. They beat Canada early on in the Games.

1599
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 3: They will look to win Olympic gold and a really

1600
01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 3: cool feel good story. Yesterday, Elena my Taylor one her

1601
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 3: first Olympic gold medal in Mono Bob. Would you say

1602
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 3: mono Bob?

1603
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 5: Now?

1604
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: I believe that's just the Bob sled. But one. Oh, Now,

1605
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 3: the thing about Elena Myers Taylor Austin, She's forty one

1606
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 3: years old. Oh, she's medled multiple times but has never

1607
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: brought home a gold. And she was able to do

1608
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 3: so with her two children watching her bring Olympic gold home.

1609
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: And that's pretty cool.

1610
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 4: That's really cool. I mean, she's.

1611
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 3: Forty one competing in an individual event. I've inch a

1612
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: lot of young folks at the top of their craft,

1613
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 3: and she was able to win it.

1614
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 4: You know, that's the type of stuff that you like

1615
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 4: to say you could do.

1616
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

1617
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you one thing I could A little

1618
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 4: bit of hope.

1619
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 3: Couldn't get a hit off Chase Burns what I saw

1620
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 3: from him in a booth on the other day, No,

1621
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 3: not at all.

1622
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 4: By the way, iHeartRadio and NBC are partnering up for

1623
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 4: coverage of the Winter Olympics and you can get it

1624
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 4: available exclusively on the iHeartRadio app. So make sure you

1625
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 4: go to the iHeart Radio app and get the latest

1626
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 4: with the Milan Cortina Olympics, the Winter Olympic Games all

1627
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 4: over the place. iHeartRadio and NBC collaborating together on the iHeartRadio.

1628
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 3: Saw some good news as well. Lindsey Vaughn finally has

1629
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,839
Speaker 3: on a flight back to the States.

1630
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 4: The video she posted of them number one, the device

1631
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 4: they have on her leg keeping it.

1632
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 3: I don't think people realized how serious it was she's

1633
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:41,520
Speaker 3: had four surgeries. Yeah, and it basically looks like scaffolding

1634
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 3: on her leg to keep it in place. I mean,

1635
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 3: she's it's gonna affect her ability to like do everything

1636
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 3: the rest of her life. Yeah, I can't even imagine.

1637
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 3: But she released a video. She hasn't stood on her

1638
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 3: feet in a week. She's been in a hospital bed

1639
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 3: and mobile since the race. But she is back home

1640
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 3: on on us soil. But you got to imagine a

1641
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 3: long road ahead and a remarkable, remarkable uh story here

1642
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: from Lindsay Vaughn. And and uh again, I think she's

1643
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 3: kind of noted. She doesn't know what's next yet, but

1644
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 3: looks forward to to kind of getting back to work.

1645
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 3: So a quick update on Lindsay Vaughn. We'll take a break.

1646
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 3: We'll put a bowl on our number two.

1647
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 4: We just have one segment here, ton. Oh, I'm sorry,

1648
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 4: I thought you saw that on the screen there. Oh no,

1649
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 4: my screen's frozen. Oh okay, screen frozen. My apologies there?

1650
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 3: Or do we have a phone do we do? We

1651
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: want to take a phone call.

1652
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 4: We can take a phone call if you'd like.

1653
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: All right, where are we going here?

1654
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 4: Let's go out to l a talk to our guy, Mike.

1655
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 4: Hello Mike, what's up?

1656
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 5: Hi? Yeleman, how are you today?

1657
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 3: Wonderful? How are you?

1658
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 5: It's your Monday?

1659
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: It is?

1660
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, Chad was in yesterday. I had to bust his

1661
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 5: you know, cohunas a little bit.

1662
01:24:59,400 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 11: But that was.

1663
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 5: I had got a big kick out of that. So

1664
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 5: the uh, most really tough Cougars turned into pussy cats

1665
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 5: last night, didn't they?

1666
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 37: Tone?

1667
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 3: That was? That was a fun game last night.

1668
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 6: I hate that.

1669
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 3: One of the team said, Lisiowa State, you talked about

1670
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 3: a back to back win against Kansas and then Houston

1671
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 3: last night. Sixteen to four run to close it out.

1672
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 3: That was that was as good? I mean they they

1673
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 3: said it during the game. That was a Final four

1674
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 3: caliber matchup that you got last night.

1675
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. And the bear Cats caught him at

1676
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 5: a good time.

1677
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I have no idea how UC beat that team.

1678
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 5: No, well, because they didn't have two or three of

1679
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 5: their best players. I think true there were some some

1680
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 5: serious injuries there.

1681
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 18: But I was.

1682
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 5: I texted molest last night. He probably got mad at

1683
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 5: me before. He's in love with Houston for what is

1684
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 5: that about? Tony?

1685
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 3: To me? I think it's the it's the way in

1686
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 3: which Houston plays that I think most resembles the UC

1687
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 3: basketball growing up that Mo and I both remember the

1688
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 3: Huggins era into the Mick Cronin era, where they weren't

1689
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: always the most gifted offensive team, but they just played

1690
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: so hard every time they were on the floor. And

1691
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit of that to a

1692
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 3: larger extent now in what Houston's able to do.

1693
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, that's probably the affinity because when the

1694
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 5: stuff you grow up with stays with you, there's no

1695
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 5: way around it. Uh. As I get older, it's it's

1696
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 5: it's very prevalent, and and it's just that it's almost

1697
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 5: not an addiction, but you know what I mean, it's

1698
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 5: just your your heart goes back to your younger days.

1699
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 5: I wish that you guys could go to the Combine.

1700
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 5: That would be the coolest show ever to have you

1701
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 5: and Austin at the Combine. They talk about that and

1702
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 5: I at the station or anything.

1703
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 4: We asked, Yeah, nothing happened.

1704
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would have to be a blast because it's

1705
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 5: not that far away.

1706
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, hour and a half. Yeah, go for a couple

1707
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 3: of days. I thought it would be a pretty cool idea,

1708
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 3: just from from a coverage standpoint me personally from being

1709
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 3: at the combine as a as a player, I would

1710
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 3: love to get back, as you know, kind of in

1711
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 3: the role that we're in now here with with the

1712
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 3: show and in the media. I think that would be

1713
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 3: a cool full circle moment. But it doesn't look like

1714
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: it's in the cards.

1715
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 5: Well, and I heard him say, there's like three hundred

1716
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 5: and fifty two players there, so you can really what

1717
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 5: a what A? What a? It's like Thanksgiving for for

1718
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 5: football college football play.

1719
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 3: It's not just it's not just the players either, And

1720
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: it's different than the draft and and things like that

1721
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 3: because you have so many advanced scouts and departments from

1722
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 3: your organization that are there and they all come to

1723
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 3: to Indy and and it's not just what's happening on

1724
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 3: the field, but it's what's happening in the lobby. Who's

1725
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 3: going out to dinner to get all of these things

1726
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 3: that happen that that make it a really cool event

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01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 3: in my opinion.

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01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you and Austin could could network for the show

1729
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 5: and you know, just a great I would think. Okay,

1730
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 5: my last thing, I know you got to go I

1731
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 5: you were talking about Hunter, Well, the only reason Hunter

1732
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 5: is not in there. I missed a little bit of

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01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 5: the show. Is just because of his health situations. That's

1734
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 5: why you can't put him there. You just can't.

1735
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, his his projections are always going to

1736
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 3: be projections until he's able to actually do it and

1737
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 3: hit those any marks that he's trying to hit. And

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01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 3: if he does hit those any marks, I think there's

1739
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 3: going to be success that obviously follows him. But until then,

1740
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 3: there's always going to be the big what if with

1741
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 3: with Hunter Green.

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01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm looking when they talk. You know, you

1743
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 5: were talking about the projections out of Vegas for the

1744
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 5: Reds total win record in the bullpen situation, but I

1745
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 5: really think it's because put gone. I guess now, I

1746
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 5: don't have the numbers. You guys can tell me the numbers.

1747
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 5: Was he a top ten closer? Way, because you've got

1748
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 5: to have a big time named closers. It just when

1749
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 5: he comes in, it's pretty much over. So I don't

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01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 5: I don't know where Pegan's Stack's up in that in

1751
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 5: the in in that.

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01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 4: Pegan in that, that's a tough question. I don't know

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01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 4: that i'd give him. I don't know i'd see him

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01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 4: as a top ten closer in Major League Baseball.

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01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, top twenty maybe, yeah, yeah, I mean he would

1756
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: have to call it, would You'd think you think he

1757
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 3: would at least get top twenty.

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01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 5: And this john what's his name, Pierce Johnson?

1759
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 3: Or yeah?

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01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 5: Is he's a lefty?

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01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 4: Right, No, he's a right hander. He's a right So

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01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 4: Ameliogan was fifth in saves last year.

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01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Pretty good.

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01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had thirty two saves. It's more than I thought.

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01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 4: He pitched in seventy games he only had. He had

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01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 4: six blown saves, which is just about the same as

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01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 4: all the guys above him. So yeah, I mean statistically

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01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 4: he had a batting average against of one sixty eight.

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01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 4: So statistically, yeah, I mean you could put him in

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01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 4: that top ten mark.

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01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 5: Well good because I you know, I guess the problem

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01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 5: is you don't think of him as a flame thrower. This,

1773
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 5: this is what we've all been indoctrinated into. Now, guy's

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01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 5: got to throw one hundred and twenty seven miles an

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01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 5: hour to be a closer, but not necessarily. So I'm

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01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 5: glad you've clarified that for me. So thanks, guys, you

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Speaker 5: have a great show.

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01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 3: Thanks, Mike, appreciate it. Yeah, it's It's interesting because I

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01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 3: think in today's world Austin, when you think of closers,

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01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 3: you think of someone that's going to come in and

1781
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 3: you know, be throwing one oh two mm hm. That's

1782
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 3: not what the Reds haveing Amelio Pegan, and I think

1783
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 3: it puts more pressure on him being on right. If

1784
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 3: Pegan's not on, he can't just beat you with, you know,

1785
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 3: raring back and finding another uh, you know mile prior

1786
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 3: to on the fastball.

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01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 4: Of the top five save leaders in baseball last year,

1788
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 4: two of them are friends of the show, Amelio Pegan,

1789
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 4: who has appeared on this show. Jeff Hoffman, who has

1790
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 4: appeared on this show.

1791
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 3: Forgot about Hoffman.

1792
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 4: Above them, Andres Munios of the Mariners, Robert Suarez of

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01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 4: the Padres. And the league leader in saves was Carlos

1794
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 4: Estevez of Kansas City. But I mean you go up

1795
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 4: and look at the numbers. Sure, I mean the one

1796
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 4: that I'm interested in is like, is walks and hits

1797
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 4: per innings pitched. Ameliopagan was under one, Hoffman wasn't, Munios

1798
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 4: wasn't Estevez wasn't batting average against He was one sixty eight.

1799
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:39,759
Speaker 4: Hoffman was two thirteen. Munios was one sixty seven swore

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01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 4: as an estives both well above that. Yeah, so you

1801
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 4: know there were some times I had to eat some

1802
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 4: crow on Amelio Pagan. Yeah, and I still, for whatever

1803
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 4: reason in my head, still don't view him as that

1804
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 4: hard thing. And maybe that's yeah, maybe that's why because

1805
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 4: of that idea of this this just dominant closer coming

1806
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 4: out of the pen. But statistically, I mean, the numbers

1807
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 4: don't lie.

1808
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take a break. We'll come back our three ahead.

1809
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 3: We've not touched on anything as it relates to the NFL,

1810
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals. We'll dive into that. Mock draft two

1811
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Speaker 3: winday return. Mock Draft Tuesday happens at the top of

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Speaker 3: our number three. Right here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Our number three since e three to sixty. Welcome back,

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Speaker 3: hour here today on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Give us a call five to one to three, seven

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Speaker 3: four nine, fifteen thirty, have a chance to talk about

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01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 3: anything you'd like to get at off your chest today.

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01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 3: Let's start here, Austin with what we normally do on

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01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 3: Mondays during this portion of the offseason. It's called Mock

1824
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 3: Draft Monday.

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Speaker 6: The picks in.

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Speaker 1: It's time for mock Draft Monday on Sincy three sixty.

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01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 4: That's awesome. I forget about it every week. That's you'll

1828
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 4: get it eventually.

1829
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 3: For the draft. Get it and get it figured out.

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01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 6: We have.

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01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 3: We've taken a look at multiple mock drafts leading up

1832
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 3: to this, and I feel like it's just been a

1833
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 3: game to this point because we've let yet to find

1834
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 3: a mock draft that could perhaps land on Reuben Bain

1835
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 3: or Caleb Downs. We're throwing corners out there, We're throwing

1836
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 3: tackles out there. Every scenario has been met except for

1837
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 3: the two that I would most like to happen. When

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01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 3: the NFL Draft is upon us, what do we have

1839
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 3: today to look at?

1840
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 4: Well, I'm actually going to combine too that kind of

1841
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 4: go right into that idea. Number one is Daniel Jeremiah

1842
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 4: from NFL Network. He's a friend of the show. He

1843
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 4: released Mock Draft two. We did one of his first

1844
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 4: I think our first mock Draft Monday was his first

1845
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 4: mock draft. And then I also want to combine that

1846
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 4: with Paul Dayner Junior, who put out his what he

1847
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,879
Speaker 4: calls mock draft zero point five. Okay, and I implore

1848
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 4: people to go and listen to Paul and read his piece,

1849
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 4: and he'll be on with Moe this afternoon talking about it.

1850
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 4: So what's interesting here is the criteria that Paul uses.

1851
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 4: He said he uses the eighty percent rule. Any player

1852
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 4: eighty percent of the way to the pick in each round,

1853
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 4: and the top one hundred is available. So at number ten,

1854
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 4: the top seven are considered off the board based off

1855
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 4: Dane Brugler's top one hundred and so in that case,

1856
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 4: number ten in the NFL Draft, Paul Dayner Junior has

1857
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 4: Ruben Bain Junior being selected by the Cincinnati Bengals. Let

1858
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 4: me ask you this, if nothing else happens this offseason, Okay,

1859
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 4: if they basically run it back with the same group,

1860
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 4: but you add Ruben bane in, how much better do

1861
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 4: you feel?

1862
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 3: Marginally? Marginallye They need much more than that. I think

1863
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 3: it would certainly give them a presence that they didn't

1864
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 3: have on the defensive line consistently, But they need much

1865
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 3: more than that, but I think that would be a

1866
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 3: step in the right direction. But I think it's a

1867
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 3: marginal difference on the defensive side.

1868
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, NFL Network, NFL dot Com Daniel Jeremiah his mock

1869
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,759
Speaker 4: draft two point zero is especially interesting because it has

1870
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 4: David Bailey, the edge rusher, going number two to the Jets.

1871
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 4: We've talked a lot about how rvel Reese has basically

1872
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 4: been the guy right there. Well, he also has Tennessee

1873
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 4: taking Ruben Bain at number four.

1874
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 3: Holy Moly, meaning.

1875
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 4: Rvel Reese is still available all the way up until

1876
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:49,959
Speaker 4: pick number seven on the Washington Commanders select him. According

1877
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 4: to Daniel Jeremiah, at number nine, he has the Chiefs

1878
01:35:56,120 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 4: taking Jeremiah Love interesting meaning at number ten, the Bengals

1879
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 4: select Caleb Downs Okay out of Ohio State. Here's what

1880
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 4: Jeremiah says. It's short and sweet, Cincinnati stays in state.

1881
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,600
Speaker 4: With this pick. The Bengals defense could use consistency and structure.

1882
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 4: Downs provides both.

1883
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 3: I think out of the two, I think Downs can

1884
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 3: impact the defense single handedly more than Rubyen Bain I do.

1885
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 3: I just think his presence at the back end and

1886
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 3: a stable presence at the back end would mean more

1887
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 3: for this team long term. I think Ruben Bain is

1888
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 3: going to go through like I see. I see. The

1889
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 3: defensive line is different because there are growing pains a

1890
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 3: lot of times on the d line. You're going up

1891
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 3: against NFL guys every single rep. Your bag of tricks

1892
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 3: has to be a little bit more advanced. And I

1893
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 3: think Ruben Bain is going to make a great transition.

1894
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 3: But I think Downs has the ability to be more

1895
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 3: NFL ready day one, and I think he's more NFL

1896
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 3: ready to impact the defense day one.

1897
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 4: I put up a poll question because I had these

1898
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 4: two mock drafts. I knew we were going to talk

1899
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 4: about it today, and I'm curious because I think most

1900
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 4: people feel like Rubin Bain is the best pass rusher

1901
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 4: in the draft, although there are probably parts of his

1902
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,759
Speaker 4: body body type, I should say, which.

1903
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 3: Is crazy because David Bailey has been all over the place.

1904
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, his body type and arm length and reach and

1905
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 4: some of that stuff where people get a little bit concerned.

1906
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 4: I think rbl Reese is just seen as a freak

1907
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 4: athlete in the Micah Parsons mold, which kind of separates him. Sure,

1908
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 4: but Rubin Bain is known as a game wrecker, and

1909
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 4: Caleb Downs is known as as the guy who kind

1910
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 4: of unifies your defense, gets you in the right spots,

1911
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 4: and is elite in knowing I guess, play recognition, knowing

1912
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 4: where the ball is going, beating receivers to the spot,

1913
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 4: his study, and just kind of controlling the defense. So

1914
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 4: I put up a poll question at Audi Elmore. That's

1915
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 4: a U t y E l m o r E

1916
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 4: on Twitter. If you're a Bengals fan, who would you

1917
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 4: rather have? You can only pick one, Ruben Bain Junior

1918
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 4: or Caleb Downs. Now, based off what you just said,

1919
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 4: you would lean Caleb Downs. Yes, So you're telling me,

1920
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 4: if at number ten, both of those guys are on

1921
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 4: the board, you're taking Caleb Downs over Ruben Bain Junior.

1922
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,759
Speaker 4: I am fifty three point nine percent of the voters

1923
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 4: agree with you. Fifty three point nine say they would

1924
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 4: take Caleb Downs over Ruben Bain Junior if they're the Bengals.

1925
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 3: I like this.

1926
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 4: Please go vote almost five hundred votes in still plenty

1927
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 4: of time to talk about it. Let me ask you,

1928
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 4: Let me ask you another hypothetical to attack. By the way, sorry,

1929
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 4: let me finish this off. John sheeran our guy. Yes,

1930
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 4: he replied and said, there aren't many above Caleb Downs,

1931
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 4: but Ruben Bain should be.

1932
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 3: Okay, So miss to a what if scenario, Bradley Chubb's available, okay,

1933
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 3: nine sacks last year, injured, and I think he's twenty

1934
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 3: eight or twenty nineine years old. Would you try to

1935
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 3: go make a move from Bradley chubbyah who just got

1936
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 3: released by the Dolphins to it that obviously makes it

1937
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 3: easier to take Caleb Downs.

1938
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be open to.

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Speaker 3: It because so much of the conversation and we'll get

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Speaker 3: to it as well as Andrew Wit were saying, you

1941
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 3: gotta go get Max Crosby, you gotta go get Max Crosby.

1942
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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's plausible, but here's a guy

1943
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 3: in Chubb who has been let go released. Injuries have

1944
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 3: kind of plugged his time in Miami, but he still

1945
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 3: managed nine sacks and he's still under thirty years old.

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Speaker 3: Would that be the type of move that makes a

1947
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 3: lot of sense for the Bengals organization.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a move that makes sense. I

1949
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 4: think you know, in Green Bay they're expecting to move

1950
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Speaker 4: on from Rashaun Gary, who had a bit of a

1951
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 4: resurgence under Jerry Montgomery, the Bengals defensive line coach when

1952
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 4: he was in Green Bay. That's a thing that makes

1953
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 4: a lot of sense. Draymont Jones, who is going to

1954
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 4: be a free agent from Baltimore, also fits that mold.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of dudes that make sense when it

1957
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 4: comes to the Bengals and pass rushers, and oh, by

1958
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 4: the way, it's a really good group of pass rushers

1959
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 4: in the draft, which kind of goes back to the

1960
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Speaker 4: point of if you do what you're supposed to do

1961
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 4: between now and the draft, it puts you in a

1962
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:19,440
Speaker 4: position to take whoever the best player available is. Exactly

1963
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 4: Let's say you get a safety. Let's say you sign

1964
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 4: a Kobe Bryant or a Brian Cook. Let's say you

1965
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 4: do sign one of those free agent pass rushers. Let's

1966
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 4: say you do get Dalton Reisner back. Then all of

1967
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 4: a sudden, if the best player available is an offensive

1968
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 4: tackle or a defensive lineman, or if it's Caleb Downs,

1969
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 4: you can do that and feel comfortable at all those positions.

1970
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 3: The Andrew Witworth conversation on his podcast with Ryan Fitzpatrick

1971
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 3: mentioned the Bengals and talked about the defense. This is

1972
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 3: a quote from Andrew Witworth. I want to get your

1973
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 3: opinion on this, Going after a guy like the Mario

1974
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 3: Davis as soon as he's available, trading for Max Crosby

1975
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 3: something like that, It'd be a lot of capital, But

1976
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 3: that'd be the tone setter. You need the example for

1977
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 3: your defense every single day. He said, quote, you got

1978
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Speaker 3: some D linemen that are young guys, who do you

1979
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 3: want to play better? Put one of the hardest, playing,

1980
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 3: best guys that any young D lineman can follow in

1981
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,759
Speaker 3: the world with Max Crosby. Pay him the money, spend

1982
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 3: the draft picks, the tenth picks, send it all if

1983
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 3: you have to, but put an example in the room.

1984
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Speaker 3: Andrew Whitworth says, my biggest prediction go get Max Crosby

1985
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 3: at all costs. Now. Whitworth also talked about this. They

1986
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 3: actually had Nick Lachey on the podcast as well, and

1987
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Speaker 3: I don't want to dive into a lot of that.

1988
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Speaker 4: Say that kind of wipes out all the stuff that

1989
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Speaker 4: you just said.

1990
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Speaker 3: But Andrew Whitworth did talk about Nick lache brought up

1991
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 3: the decision by the Bengals not to bring back Andrew Whitworth,

1992
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 3: and he said, that's not what it's about for me.

1993
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 3: He said, it's about my time in Cincinnati where I

1994
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 3: felt like we were right on the cusp and ownership

1995
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 3: never really did anything to push us over. They never

1996
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 3: really went all in on us, and we felt that

1997
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 3: in the locker room. So what I've wrestled back and

1998
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 3: forth with now, would you'll be fine partying way with

1999
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 3: pick number ten if it meant Max Crosby, and I

2000
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 3: would imagine it would be more than just pick number ten.

2001
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 3: But is he the type of player at all costs

2002
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 3: that would immediately change this defense, because then you'd be

2003
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 3: giving up on the ideas what we just talked about

2004
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 3: of you know, signing a Bradley Chubb, signing a different

2005
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 3: player like that, and then still drafting a Caleb Downs

2006
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 3: possibly or a tackle. You would lose that. But then

2007
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Speaker 3: you talk about Max Crosby, and I think the other

2008
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 3: side of this is, well, you can get one of

2009
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 3: these younger guys and you can ad for the next

2010
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 3: five years on a team friendly deal.

2011
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Speaker 4: Why can't you do that with Max Croftby? I just

2012
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 4: don't think I'm saying I don't think you could keep

2013
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Speaker 4: the tenth No. You can't. That's what I'm saying. If

2014
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Speaker 4: it's only the tenth pick, yeah, I'll take that. I

2015
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 4: absolutely would do that. If it's a pick maybe next year, Okay,

2016
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit more app to do that. So yeah,

2017
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Speaker 4: I don't know why you wouldn't. This is an all

2018
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Speaker 4: pro caliber dude. Now, injuries have started to take a

2019
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 4: toll a little bit, but he works his butt off,

2020
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 4: he's fully committed. He's everything you want out of that position,

2021
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 4: and it's a guy that is going to make the

2022
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 4: other dudes on the defensive line better. Problem is there's

2023
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 4: a very expensive price tag, sure that comes with Max Crosby.

2024
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 4: I mean the point is, though, like you can get

2025
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 4: Crosby and still spend a draft pick on a defensive lineman, yes,

2026
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 4: on a pass rusher. You can still go and get

2027
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 4: a Kobe Bryant or a Brian Cook or any of

2028
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 4: those available safeties. No one would stop you from doing that.

2029
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Speaker 4: And I think that's ultimately maybe the point that Whitworth

2030
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 4: is trying to make. And I've said it many times,

2031
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 4: there was the reason why Carson Palmer and the Bengals split, correct,

2032
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 4: is because the Bengals weren't doing everything in their power

2033
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 4: to win. They've gotten better at that, but I think

2034
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 4: over the last couple of years they've left meat on

2035
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 4: the bone and this is an opportunity for them to

2036
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 4: once again prove that they aren't the same old Bengals

2037
01:43:58,479 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 4: and they are willing to go out.

2038
01:43:59,800 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 37: Now.

2039
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Speaker 4: Does Max Crosby do that?

2040
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2041
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But you can also, you know, spread that message

2042
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 4: and in that narrative by doing it in other ways

2043
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 4: as well.

2044
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 3: Sure. Let me ask you this. I read an artic

2045
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 3: on Yahoo Sports from sim nor Reza who talked about

2046
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 3: Andrew Whitworth and this the suggestion that he made about

2047
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 3: the Bengals, and some Nor goes on to say, it's

2048
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 3: gonna take more than just the tenth overall pick. Perhaps

2049
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 3: they give up Shamar Stewart to sweeten the deal. If

2050
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Speaker 3: it's Schamar and number ten, would you say yes, no, okay.

2051
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 4: I'm a Shamar Stewart believer. Okay, all right, because then

2052
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 4: you mean you're out two pass rushers at that point,

2053
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 4: or you're you're down another one like you're obviously losing Trey.

2054
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 4: I don't think the Bengals should give up on Shamar Stewart.

2055
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 4: You have a contract situation to work out with Miles Murphy.

2056
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I love Max Crosby. I don't know that

2057
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 4: I'm giving up a pick and Shamar Stewart for him

2058
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 4: right now just because of the rest of that.

2059
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 3: And again, if I would, personally, I would just because

2060
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 3: of the proven commodity that I know. Max Crosby is

2061
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 3: sure and there's still a lot to be deciphered with

2062
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 3: with Shamar Stewart. But I certainly get the other side

2063
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 3: of it.

2064
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I will listen to arguments for both

2065
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 4: sides of that.

2066
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2067
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 4: I can't explain it. This is just a feeling that

2068
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 4: I get. I'm a believer and Shamar Stewart.

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Speaker 3: If you go off the Pro Football Focus rookie first

2070
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 3: round grades from last year, he's the lowest rated first

2071
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Speaker 3: round draft and it's not even close. That's what I'm saying.

2072
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 3: I got nothing by PFF. The next lowest was a

2073
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 3: forty eight and that was Kenneth Grant by the Dolphins.

2074
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 4: I have nothing to go off as other than vibes, Okay,

2075
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,799
Speaker 4: good vibes. Here's here's my explanation, here's my thought process,

2076
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 4: and this could change, and I have the reason the

2077
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,639
Speaker 4: right to, you know, change my mind. I went to say,

2078
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,799
Speaker 4: I reserve the right to change my mind. I think

2079
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 4: now that he has a season under his belt and

2080
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 4: there's no contract nonsense, and he knows what it takes

2081
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 4: to be in the NFL, and the Bengals can come

2082
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 4: up with a plan for him in the offseason, and

2083
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,719
Speaker 4: Al Golden understands fully what the expectation is. I think

2084
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 4: he can focus on football. And I think with the

2085
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 4: defensive line coach that I believe in, like Jerry Montgomery

2086
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 4: and all those other things that are no longer working

2087
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 4: against him, they're working for him. I think that can

2088
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 4: turn into a good thing for Shamar Stewart.

2089
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Speaker 3: And you mentioned too, guys like We'shaun Gary, who Montgomery coached. Yeah,

2090
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 3: that may have different ties, but I think you mentioned

2091
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 3: there's a lot of names out there. There's a lot

2092
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 3: of big time names in free agency. I just again,

2093
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 3: if there's ever a season to just go all in

2094
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 3: and do it, it has to be this one, especially

2095
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 3: on the defensive side.

2096
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Speaker 5: Of the ball.

2097
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Speaker 3: Let's break, let's come back, Let's get your thoughts on

2098
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Speaker 3: this as well. We'll take your phone call next five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 4: Man, it's.

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks in and I'm just not used

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Speaker 3: to the the bonking spots yet. It's gonna take a

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Speaker 3: little time. Welcome back since he three sixty ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Comet Station. I mean Grandma's sisters, things like that. Now, Nope,

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Speaker 3: that makes sense, No fair anyway, phone lines are open.

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Speaker 3: Let's grab a couple of calls here before we uh

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Speaker 3: we move on. Still got some menfl to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Brian is calling and what's up? Brian?

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how's it going?

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Not your dad?

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Speaker 22: There's enough that I love to talk about in the draft.

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Speaker 22: You know, growing up as a Bengals fan the nineties,

2117
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Speaker 22: I thought he had to look forward to so uh

2118
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Speaker 22: they attended to pretty well.

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Speaker 8: Uh so.

2120
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Speaker 22: But anyway, I was gonna touch on the Bengals draft,

2121
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Speaker 22: like what what they should be hopefully be looking at,

2122
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Speaker 22: even though they did draft two linebackers in a week

2123
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Speaker 22: draft this past year. You know, my favorite player actually

2124
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Speaker 22: in this draft is Sunny Styles. I think He would

2125
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 22: probably fit them perfectly with a linebacker that could UH

2126
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 22: challenge the run but also marking and guard the pass

2127
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Speaker 22: because both their linebackers now are pretty poor at tackling

2128
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 22: and pretty poor at UH pass coverage. So I'm hoping

2129
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Speaker 22: that they're still looking at linebacker to improve that also

2130
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,719
Speaker 22: the same obviously with safety, everybody's covered. You know, Geno

2131
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Speaker 22: Stone is probably one of the worst I've ever seen

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Speaker 22: try to attempt to tackle.

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Speaker 3: But also don't overlook battle.

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Speaker 22: I mean, he's very below average as well. He might

2135
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:01,839
Speaker 22: look good against next to Geno Stone, but my preferred

2136
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Speaker 22: would be that they would get a bit better than safety,

2137
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Speaker 22: and then it went in the draft. It's actually a

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Speaker 22: pretty good safety draft, so you know, downs would be fantastic.

2139
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Speaker 22: You know, I think, you know, Thinghaman in the second

2140
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Speaker 22: round would.

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Speaker 5: Be great as well.

2142
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Speaker 22: Bud Clark maybe middle rounds is actually a pretty good

2143
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Speaker 22: tafety as well. You know, I like UH in this draft,

2144
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,600
Speaker 22: but they need to address that hopefully, hopefully they do.

2145
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 22: Interior pass rush has always been an issue.

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Speaker 18: It's hard to get those defensive tackles.

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Speaker 22: So you guys talking about trading for Max Crosby, I

2148
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 22: would actually not give up the first round pick.

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Speaker 3: You know, I would.

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Speaker 22: I would prefer if they gave up the first round

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Speaker 22: pick to actually get somebody that could maybe pressure up

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01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:45,679
Speaker 22: the middle, uh, than the edge. I think it's harder

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01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 22: to find a pass rushing defensive tackle than it is

2154
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 22: to find an edge then rush the passer.

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01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 3: I love Max Crosby. My idea would be.

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01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 22: To you know, franchise Hendrickson and then trade him plus

2157
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 22: the late round pick maybe for Crosby.

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01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 5: If the Raiders would do it.

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01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 22: I'm not sure if that would be.

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01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 18: An idea, but I would.

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01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 5: I would.

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01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 18: I love Max Crosby.

2163
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 22: But again, a pass rushing defensive tackle doesn't come home.

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01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 22: I come come open very often, and Wood is there

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01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 22: from from Clemson.

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01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:18,679
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 22: But I'm not sure if I really trust him. The

2168
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 22: only real guys that I trusted his draft that will

2169
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 22: pan out are Baine Bailey, Downs Styles and Reese far

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Speaker 22: As the defensive guys that I think that you guys

2171
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 22: that could contribute right away and be very good, because

2172
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 22: that's one thing that the Bengals need, is somebody that

2173
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 22: will step in and be very good right away. They

2174
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 22: need to impact on tire of these these projects. I

2175
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 22: know that you like Shamar Stewart. I wasn't a big

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01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 22: fan of Mrs Stewart. Actually, it was funny because last

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Speaker 22: year before the draft, I have friends that you know,

2178
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 22: I know that I follow the draft very well, and

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Speaker 22: they asked me the one guy that I wouldn't want

2180
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 22: the Bengals the draft in the first round, and his

2181
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 22: name was Shamar Stewart. So I would have actually taken

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01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 22: Malachi Starts to safety out of Georgia last year, and

2183
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 22: maybe that would have alt.

2184
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 18: But they love Geno Stone for some reason, or.

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01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 22: Nick I Minori, but of course we all know how

2186
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 22: good he is with Seattle now. But but anyway, hopefully

2187
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 22: I'm hoping that the Bengals aren't stubborn and they will

2188
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 22: address even though the positions they addressed last year as

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01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 22: far as linebacker goes, defensive end goes. The rushing sounds

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01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 22: like they want to get some rush, interior rush, especially

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01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 22: with you know, Patrick Mahomes and some of those guys

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01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 22: that like to step up in the pocket. Getting pressure

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01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 22: in the middle is key. Yeah, So and that's you know,

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01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 22: that's that's the key. That's that's how you stop them,

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01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 22: is getting pressure up the middle, you know, around the

2196
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 22: side is fine, but if you can collapse the pocket

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01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,639
Speaker 22: from the inside, that also helps you outside past rush

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01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 22: because then the quarterback has to either go back or

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01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 22: roll out. So I would prefer some material pastors. And

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01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 22: I don't know if there's anybody available that it's that

2201
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 22: is out there that could get be traded for, but

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01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 22: that would be the only way I get I would

2203
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 22: get rid of our first round pick is if we

2204
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 22: could get established.

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01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 18: In Citeria pass rusher that I.

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01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 22: Think is very very needy. But again, like I would

2207
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 22: love styles Downs, Bailey or Baine would be my four,

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01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 22: Reese would be actually my fIF I actually like style

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01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 22: of Reese and uh you know, I know many people

2210
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 22: like Reese.

2211
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 18: More because he's an athletic FU, but I think.

2212
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 22: Sonny Styles is pretty athletics as well.

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01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 18: Uh So, but what do you guys think of that?

2214
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 22: The safety position? I mean, do you think that they

2215
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 22: will address and get a couple instead of settling for

2216
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:48,679
Speaker 22: battle as kind of being okay? Like I don't even

2217
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 22: think he's okay, but next to Stone, I think anybody

2218
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 22: looks at least decent. But what do you guys think

2219
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 22: of of that? Plus them addressing the linebacker again? Since

2220
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 22: the linebackers they got, I would say, I would say

2221
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 22: Carter is probably more.

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01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 5: Of like a backup.

2223
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 22: And you know, so what do you think about that?

2224
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 8: What do you think?

2225
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 22: What do you think the odds of them addressing the

2226
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 22: positions they might have addressed last year and not being

2227
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 22: so stubborn and and dressing this year, especially if you

2228
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 22: have an impactful player like a Sonny Styles and r well,

2229
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 22: least some of those guys will come in and be

2230
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 22: a difference maker right away.

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01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 3: Sure, Brian appreciate the call, Austin. I think there's a

2232
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 3: couple of things. One, I think at times the play

2233
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 3: of Genostone was so bad that we just assumed that

2234
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 3: Battles are fine Number two at safety. I think that

2235
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 3: would take a lot more of, you know, kind of

2236
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 3: the evaluation that the organization goes through to decide do

2237
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 3: you need to replace both? But I feel like they're

2238
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 3: in a good place with Battle. I feel like they're

2239
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 3: okay with Jordan Battle at safety.

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Speaker 37: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it necessarily means they won't sign

2242
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 4: more than one, or draft one and sign one, but

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01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 4: I do think that they like Jordan Battle. The other

2244
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 4: part that he mentioned some of those names those guys,

2245
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 4: they're moving up the draft board right now. The Theeneman

2246
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:09,839
Speaker 4: from Oregon we talked earlier, Emmanuel McNeil, Warren from Toledo,

2247
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,759
Speaker 4: Daniel Jeremiah has him going at number thirteen in the draft.

2248
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 4: Those guys, those positions are moving up. There's still a

2249
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 4: lot of time between now and the end of April.

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01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't think that anything is off the

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01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 4: table for the Bengals right now. I really don't. I

2252
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:26,440
Speaker 4: don't think they'd be afraid to go after a linebacker.

2253
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 4: I wouldn't draft a linebacker at number ten just because

2254
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 4: of what happens with the fifth year option and that

2255
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 4: franchise tag and the NFL is a problem there that

2256
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 4: they got to figure out. But yeah, I think interior

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01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 4: defensive line, if that's something you're looking for, that might

2258
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 4: be available a little bit further back. We've talked about

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01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 4: a little bit further back.

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Speaker 3: What interior pass rush does to a quarterback as well,

2261
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 3: and I agree, if you can find those players, that

2262
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 3: means a lot. But those players are hard to find,

2263
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 3: you know, those players that can affect the passing game

2264
01:54:57,200 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 3: in a way, those aren't as easy to find. So

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01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 3: you know, I think there are going to be a

2266
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 3: lot of options out there. But I think if you

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01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 3: kind of summarize what the call is about, I think

2268
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different ways this can go right.

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01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there are people out there Austin. They're gonna

2270
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 3: look at Max Crosby and say, well, last year he

2271
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 3: played in fifteen games, he only had ten sacks. The

2272
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 3: year before he was hurt, he only played in twelve games.

2273
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 3: You know, where's the production? Is there an injury concern?

2274
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 3: What production are you willing to give away for a

2275
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 3: Max Crosby. There are going to be people out there

2276
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 3: that would push back on that. I do think an

2277
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 3: interesting point was made about linebacker because there was an

2278
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 3: article today on ESPN dot com that went through the

2279
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 3: best fits for the top fifty free agents, and one

2280
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 3: of those free agents Austin was actually le O'shanell from

2281
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs, and ESPN has him best fit

2282
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 3: as a Cincinnati Bengal. The ability to walk up into

2283
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 3: the front, the ability to pressure. He would give the

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01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 3: defense more flexibility, and four years with the Chiefs he

2285
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 3: recorded one hundred and ninety three tackles, seven sacks, and

2286
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 3: twenty eight pressures. That to me would be a perfect

2287
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 3: type of answer for linebacker. Yeah, don't dip back into

2288
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:02,839
Speaker 3: the draft, get a proven guy.

2289
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 4: And don't forget what their plan was. Their plan was

2290
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 4: to still have Logan Wilson around, right, and he just

2291
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,040
Speaker 4: couldn't play anymore. And so I think for that reason

2292
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 4: they will dip into it at the very least a veteran.

2293
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 4: Don't know that they'll draft one. I hope they do,

2294
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 4: but you know, I think they'll get a veteran, whether

2295
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 4: it's to Mario Davis or Leo'shanell or someone like that.

2296
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 4: I think they will makes a lot of especially with

2297
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 4: two young guys in that room. I was thinking about

2298
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 4: this over the weekend. If you could redraft, would you

2299
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 4: take Carson Sweisinger at number eighteen?

2300
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 3: Sure?

2301
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 4: Could you imagine? I remember being so angry. I was

2302
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 4: whatever I had in my hand, I slammed it down

2303
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 4: when I saw that the Browns drafted him with the

2304
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 4: first pick in the second round. And I'm thinking back

2305
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 4: on that, and I haven't looked at the re drafts,

2306
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 4: but could you imagine this defense if they had gotten

2307
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 4: him last year? Be a lot different, entirely different story,

2308
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 4: I feel like, be a lot different. The other news

2309
01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 4: today is obviously the franchise tag. That window has opened.

2310
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 4: The decision will be around Trey Hendrickson in twenty twenty six.

2311
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 4: The window opens today, it runs through March third, and

2312
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 4: the Bengals obviously have a decision to make. How do

2313
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 4: you view and I know we can dive into this

2314
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 4: as the week goes on and we wait and see

2315
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 4: what happens with Trey Hendrickson. Are you using the tag

2316
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 4: on Trey Hendrickson looking to trade because the answer would

2317
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 4: be what are you getting in return for a Trey Hendrickson?

2318
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 4: What are teams willing to offer? What is your ideal

2319
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 4: scenario as the franchise tag deadline opens today? Ideal scenario

2320
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 4: would be tag him and trade them for a third

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01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 4: round pick.

2322
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 3: Third round is your that's your get in price.

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01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 4: I'd be thrilled with that.

2324
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 3: Would you give him up for a fourth?

2325
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 4: Probably? Okay, just to be done with it.

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01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 3: I just I don't know the market's going to be there. Yeah,

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01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 3: I don't. And it's not a s I mean, like

2328
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 3: it's no surprise. The relationships not great between the two.

2329
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 4: Kelsey Conway reported this morning that the Bengals are going

2330
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:55,839
Speaker 4: to spend the week in Indianapolis, gauging value, gauging interest

2331
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:59,240
Speaker 4: in Trey Hendrickson, and kind of decide from there. Okay, now,

2332
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 4: if you're the other teams that the Bengals are talking to,

2333
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 4: you know, they got to make a decision. So you're

2334
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 4: not gonna be give you know, oh, we'll give you

2335
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 4: a second round pick, We'll give you a high third

2336
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 4: round pick. You're gonna be lowballing them because you would

2337
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 4: rather Trey Enderson hits the open market and you can

2338
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 4: give up something or you don't have to give up

2339
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 4: something to get them other than money.

2340
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 3: Correct. I think I would. I would not expect anyone

2341
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 3: to combine to open and be like, oh, we'd love

2342
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 3: to give you a second we'd love to give you

2343
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 3: a third. I just don't think that interest will be there.

2344
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 3: But maybe we're wrong, but that deadline has opened today.

2345
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 4: I just don't think there's anything left there. I don't

2346
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 4: think the relationship with the front office is good. I

2347
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 4: don't think the relationship with Zach Taylor is good. I

2348
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 4: don't think the relationship with his teammates is as good

2349
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 4: as people make it out to be either.

2350
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 5: Yep.

2351
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 4: I just think this is one of those things where

2352
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 4: the Bengals will just take whatever they can get or

2353
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 4: just say, all right, we're done with this. Well, of course,

2354
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 4: it's unfortunate, it is and it's their fault is a

2355
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 4: huge part of it. But I think that's where we're at.

2356
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 3: We'll take a break, we'll come back, we'll finish up

2357
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 3: with some phone calls and then we'll get to mulagar

2358
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 3: for quick hits. Coming up next. Since he three sixty

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, This.

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01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: Is Jack, Let's get back in the action, Tony Pike.

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01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 1: Since three sixty is back now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 3: Welcome back Sincy. Three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station,

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01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 3: Moulager in just a few moments. How about this Austin

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Speaker 3: News generating today. This from the PGA Tour. Tiger Woods

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Speaker 3: was at the podium today was asked if he's ruled

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Speaker 3: out the Masters for this season. Tiger, with a grin,

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01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 3: said nope. Could we get Tiger back at the Masters?

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Speaker 4: I hope so. Now that's one of the things. The

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen Masters is one of those things that makes

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Speaker 4: me believe that anything is possible. The Chicago Cubs won

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Speaker 4: the World Series in twenty sixteen, Tiger Woods came from

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Speaker 4: nothing to win in twenty nineteen, and the Masters. Why

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Speaker 4: can't the Bengals win the Super Bowl? Why can't the

2374
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Speaker 4: Reds go on a run? Here's what it sounded like

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Speaker 4: earlier today.

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Speaker 3: Final thing with.

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Speaker 22: You in regards to your recovery is the Masters off

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Speaker 22: the table for you?

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Speaker 4: Noo? And then a grin, yep, a sheepish grin of

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Speaker 4: one Mark Eldrick Tiger Woods. Afterwards, Fire me up, man,

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Speaker 4: you know who you just sounded like, sounded a little

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02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 4: bit like if Man. Yeah, I mean you spend so

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02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 4: much time around him, can tell you sound a little

2384
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Speaker 4: like if Man. There are sometimes you just have to believe,

2385
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,720
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you need to be reminded like, oh, yeah,

2386
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Speaker 4: this thing happened, so maybe this could happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now I was gonna go back to our phone lines,

2388
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 3: and both of the calls that were on Hole just dropped.

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Speaker 4: Oh thanks for the memories. So I was ready to

2390
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Speaker 4: were we going to get our draft analysis? Was ready

2391
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Speaker 4: to talk to Greg and Sharonville was holding Now just

2392
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Speaker 4: move on from that. But man, what a difference it

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Speaker 4: would make if Tiger Woods were back for the masters man.

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Speaker 4: It really would. I mean things, things would look a

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Speaker 4: lot different. It would just it would give a little

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Speaker 4: juice to our masters.

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Speaker 3: You know, he'd be the most excited. Jeff from Virginia.

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Speaker 4: Oh, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Jeff would because they'd have that Tiger Tracker channel on

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Speaker 3: and he'd watched every one of his shots.

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Speaker 4: Part of my part of the reason why I want

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Speaker 4: Tiger to come back is because I know it will

2403
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Speaker 4: get under Jeff's skin, and I think that would be funny.

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Speaker 4: Some other great reds to wear number thirty seven? What

2405
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 4: do you know about Dutch Melee? Oh, the Dutchman? What

2406
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 4: about Milt Schofener, Milt, Bob Perky, Wayne Granger? Ooh what

2407
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 4: about Well you know about your friend Stan, Belinda? Oh

2408
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:53,480
Speaker 4: do you remember Stan?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 4: How about Scott Winchester, Oh the Rifle, Brian Shackelford.

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Speaker 3: Don't remember?

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Speaker 4: Okay, in them chains though, Josh Reinicky the Rhino, alright,

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Speaker 4: very good? Thirty seven days until opening.

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Speaker 3: Thirty seven days.

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Speaker 4: This is when it comes to a screeching hall.

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Speaker 3: This is the time. This is the week, or you

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Speaker 3: welcome as many four day weeks as possible.

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Speaker 4: Once once the spring training game's hit. It feels like

2419
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 4: it takes forever to get through those. Yep, it does.

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Speaker 3: But here we are. It's still so much to be

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Speaker 3: to be thankful for. To look forward to a loaded

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Speaker 3: Tuesday slated college hoops tonight, which will include Miami, NKU, Xavier, Louisville,

2423
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Speaker 3: and Kentucky All in action tonight, we'll talking about the

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Speaker 3: college hoops weekend and what's coming up on The Moegger

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Speaker 3: Show that happens next right here on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports station WCK one.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Tykes.

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Speaker 2: Since the three sixty.

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Speaker 3: Was looking for Mo, MoES here ready to go on

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Speaker 3: a Tuesday afternoon ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. Let's

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Speaker 3: just start with diving right in, Mo, What do you

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Speaker 3: got coming up on the on the show today today?

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Speaker 37: You know, one of the things we've loved doing on

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Speaker 37: this show for years is we love to find people

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Speaker 37: who have become Internet villains.

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Speaker 6: Right Yeah, So we got.

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02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 37: This guy, Derek Cardy from ESPN who this week Handy

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02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 37: was an Internet villain and Reds fans were just wailing

2439
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 37: away at this poor dude. Now, There's two things about this.

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Speaker 37: Number One, there is a world where some of what

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02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 37: he says is correct right, specifically as it relates to

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Speaker 37: Andrew Abbott, which I will try to explain. Number Two,

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Speaker 37: Derek is going to join us at four h five

2444
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Speaker 37: because I want to know what is the meanest thing

2445
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 37: a Red's fan has said to him?

2446
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 6: And how do you misread your own data?

2447
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:44,520
Speaker 3: Had to be enough that he walked back on a

2448
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:46,880
Speaker 3: couple of the like, wait, I'm getting enough here. Let

2449
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Speaker 3: me recheck the number.

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Speaker 37: He rewrote the blurb for ESPN. He toned it down

2451
02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 37: a little bit. He's got the Reds winning fewer than

2452
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 37: eighty two and a half games, which that in itself

2453
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 37: is not that far fetched. But his original premise was

2454
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 37: close to bottom fire rotation in baseball. Now, look, there's

2455
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:04,880
Speaker 37: a world where Andrew Abbott is what he was in

2456
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:07,040
Speaker 37: the second half and not the first half, Like that's

2457
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 37: that's plausible. And and maybe there's a world where, you

2458
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 37: know what, Nick Lodolo just doesn't take that that step

2459
02:04:13,120 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 37: forward that you need. And there's a world where injuries

2460
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 37: plague this rotation because it's a big part of their

2461
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 37: collective track record. There ain't a planet where this is

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02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 37: a close to bottom five rotation. Then he backtracked and said, well,

2463
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Speaker 37: actually I got him in the top five. How do

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02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,160
Speaker 37: you go from close to bottom five to actually they're

2465
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 37: in the top five. So Derek, in the middle of

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02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 37: just being pummeled by Reds fans, I I tweeted him

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Speaker 37: and then I had to do my least favorite thing ever.

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Speaker 37: I just slide into somebody's DNS and I like communicating

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Speaker 37: for you. DM is not my thing, man, I just

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Speaker 37: I don't like doing that.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 37: It's weird. There's something creepy didn't land me here. It

2473
02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 37: got Derek Cardy on the show, and I'm just like, hey, man,

2474
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 37: I know you're you're taking a beating. I'm not gonna

2475
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 37: add to the beating, but I'd love to have you on.

2476
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:03,640
Speaker 37: And he was cool as hell. So Derek is going

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Speaker 37: to join us at four oh five, Paul Dayner Junior,

2478
02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 37: you know we're closing in the franchise. Tag window opens

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Speaker 37: at four o'clock. I don't know how many more days

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Speaker 37: I have left to talk about Trey Hendrickson. So I'm

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Speaker 37: gonna make the most of every moment. I feel like

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Speaker 37: somebody who's got like a terminal illness where you've been

2483
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,640
Speaker 37: told there's only so much time left. Sure, make the

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Speaker 37: most of every day. I'm gonna make the most of

2485
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Speaker 37: every segment. I have to talk about Trey Hendrickson, So

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Speaker 37: Paul's gonna do that to talk about his mock draft too.

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Speaker 4: Zero point five and mock draft zero point five. She's

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02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:35,560
Speaker 4: the only one to do that. I feel like he

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Speaker 4: is a zero point.

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Speaker 37: Five yes, because he's doing it the right way, acknowledging

2491
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Speaker 37: that a mock draft before the free agency is stupid.

2492
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 37: But he still has a an audience and he has

2493
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Speaker 37: numbers to hit an editor who I'm sure wants him

2494
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 37: to do mock drafts, and so mock drafts do great,

2495
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:52,720
Speaker 37: which is why I'm gonna do a bunch this year. Really,

2496
02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 37: I'm gonna be a big mock draft guy again. I yeah,

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Speaker 37: I just I've decided it could be this weekend.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you considered maybe blending being a mock draft

2499
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Speaker 4: guy and a LinkedIn guy and maybe what that could market.

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Speaker 37: No, I did part three of Jason and the Matches.

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Speaker 37: Oh I missed it. Yeah, I did part three. I

2502
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:14,280
Speaker 37: thought it was going to be a three part story.

2503
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 37: It's actually I have to do a fourth part.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 37: So Jason in the Matches Part three is up on

2506
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 37: my LinkedIn page. Big LinkedIn Guy, Big, Big LinkedIn Guy.

2507
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 37: Also our guy, attorney Stewart W. Penrose from the Manila

2508
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 37: Law Group, We're gonna talk about drum Tang, Oh trum Tang,

2509
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:32,240
Speaker 37: who's a moron because broken by the Bearcats. Look, everybody's

2510
02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:34,320
Speaker 37: taken up with this guy. And I talked about this yesterday.

2511
02:06:34,360 --> 02:06:37,680
Speaker 37: Once you know you're getting fired, you have one responsibility

2512
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 37: protect the bag.

2513
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:42,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, to use the partland today because.

2514
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,320
Speaker 3: His attorney said, quote, if k State President maybe really

2515
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 3: think the schools embarrassed by recent events, that's nothing compared

2516
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 3: to the embarrassment case.

2517
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 37: States stance is flimsy. But the moment, like look around,

2518
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:56,160
Speaker 37: nobody's at the games. You're getting crushed, students wearing bags

2519
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 37: over their heads. Like at that point, it's like, you

2520
02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 37: know what, I have one responsibility when I get fired,

2521
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 37: to ensure I protect my eighteen point sixty seven million dollars.

2522
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying anything.

2523
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Speaker 37: I'm not saying, hey, Cincinnati played great, God our kids

2524
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 37: played hard. Well practice tomorrow, like I am not saying.

2525
02:07:11,720 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 37: I'm not doing interviews if I don't have to do it,

2526
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 37: I'm not yelling at referees. I'm gonna sit there during

2527
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,840
Speaker 37: the games, watch my team lose, collect my check. Yep,

2528
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:20,920
Speaker 37: so I kind of blame Jerome.

2529
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Speaker 4: Okay, will you be asking Stewart at all about the

2530
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Speaker 4: Tony Clark situation?

2531
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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 37: I am gonna ask about the Tony Clark situation and

2533
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:30,640
Speaker 37: what this might mean for the lockout that we're gonna

2534
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 37: have that's gonna cancel the entire baseball season for twenty

2535
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 37: twenty seven and maybe beyond.

2536
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Speaker 3: The college basketball weekend that was wins from Miami over

2537
02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 3: ou NKU gotta win, Xavier gets a win against Marquette,

2538
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 3: holds on in the second half, Louisville wins Kentucky a loss,

2539
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:52,520
Speaker 3: and you see a win three in a row for

2540
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 3: the Bearcats. Oh and now multiple days to prepare to

2541
02:07:57,720 --> 02:07:58,520
Speaker 3: head into the fog.

2542
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,200
Speaker 6: So's the thing?

2543
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 3: Right?

2544
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:03,680
Speaker 6: So if they win these.

2545
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:06,600
Speaker 38: Next two games, not just no, they win the next one. Okay,

2546
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 38: but let's I think we pay attention to bubble watch, right?

2547
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:14,200
Speaker 38: Oh gosh, yes, they're currently listed as a long shot.

2548
02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 38: If you go to bracketology, you don't see him as

2549
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 38: next four out. No, you don't see him as next

2550
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 38: four out. I guess it's last four out, next four out.

2551
02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:26,680
Speaker 38: I was having this conversation with Dan Horde and I

2552
02:08:26,720 --> 02:08:29,520
Speaker 38: said to him, if they win these next two, they

2553
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 38: will be among the next four out. Now that sounds great.

2554
02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 38: Do you know how hard it is to go from

2555
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:38,040
Speaker 38: next four out to end? Like people see that and

2556
02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:39,640
Speaker 38: it's like, we're not that far away. It's like, yeah,

2557
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 38: you're like eight teams away.

2558
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 37: Yeah, So I don't want a conversation. It would be

2560
02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 37: I don't want to burst the bubble too much. But

2561
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:49,640
Speaker 37: you can't from where they are to where we want

2562
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:53,280
Speaker 37: them to be. You can't go from not even on

2563
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 37: the page to in baby steps.

2564
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Speaker 6: Starting on Saturday at Lawrence.

2565
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Speaker 3: Love it the fog. It feels like based on what

2566
02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:04,400
Speaker 3: the number is a little bit of a trap opportunity

2567
02:09:04,480 --> 02:09:08,440
Speaker 3: here tonight for Miami, who has answered every call literally

2568
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:12,880
Speaker 3: this year. Three and a half against a fifteen and

2569
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 3: eleven u maass team. They played them really well at

2570
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:15,560
Speaker 3: Mallet Hall.

2571
02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 37: Yeah, you mess shot fifty one percent in the first game,

2572
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:21,000
Speaker 37: had them on the ropes, scored eighty four points. The

2573
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 37: Minutemen of lost two straight. One of those games is

2574
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 37: a three overtime game against Coastal Carolina. But if you

2575
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 37: go to Ken Palm and they do, you know, basically

2576
02:09:29,640 --> 02:09:32,959
Speaker 37: predictions for every game every team on their respective schedules.

2577
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:35,680
Speaker 37: This is the one they like Miami to win. But

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Speaker 37: this is the one they like the least. By the way,

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02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:41,760
Speaker 37: like you talk about the pressure on the RedHawks, they're

2580
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,640
Speaker 37: undefeated obviously, which means they haven't lost a game in

2581
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 37: league play.

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02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 6: Akrons lost once.

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Speaker 37: I know, and so like if you lose, they won

2584
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 37: the head to head game, they're all gonna play them one,

2585
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:54,200
Speaker 37: so they would win the tiebreaker. But but if you lose,

2586
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 37: suddenly there's like game on in the MAC. So we'll see,

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02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:01,680
Speaker 37: and they still do. After this, they got to go

2588
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 37: to Eastern Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you follow the bearcatch, you know that's not

2590
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:07,120
Speaker 3: an easy you know, how hard to play. And then

2591
02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:09,920
Speaker 3: at O you to finish the season. And that's my thought, like, oh,

2592
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 3: stay slip up. You don't want to have to go

2593
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 3: to Ohio and win to win the MAC. No, but

2594
02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 3: that would be on the table if you don't take

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Speaker 3: care of you master.

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Speaker 37: You know, I've heard a lot of people take shots

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02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 37: at Miami. You know, a New Miami fans. Well suddenly

2598
02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 37: there were all these like New Ou fans like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:26,640
Speaker 37: well yeah wait wait do you see what we do

2600
02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:28,920
Speaker 37: on Friday? What we're worry on Friday? Your team got.

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02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 3: Rolled the Bobbies?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

2603
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:32,760
Speaker 3: Is is Crowsley into Pokemon cards at all?

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02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 6: Absolutely not? Thank god?

2605
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:37,160
Speaker 3: Now seeing Logan Paul sell one for sixteen million dollars,

2606
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:38,920
Speaker 3: do you introduce her to the hobby at all?

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02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 37: Absolutely? Yes, No, she's not at all into to Pokemon.

2608
02:10:44,160 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 3: Uh. Monday night last Big twelve awesome felt like a

2609
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:51,360
Speaker 3: Final four game? Did Iowa State Houston? I wondered at

2610
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,680
Speaker 3: times and not how the Houston game here was so close?

2611
02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:56,400
Speaker 3: And how we actually beat Iowa State at home? But

2612
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Speaker 3: watching those two teams play, I think, to one, it

2613
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Speaker 3: could be a Final four matchup. Two, it's like just

2614
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Speaker 3: another night now in the Big Twelve. Like look at

2615
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:06,640
Speaker 3: Arizona's schedule.

2616
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 6: I think it's just another night in college basketball.

2617
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:11,280
Speaker 3: It is, But like the twelve specific Duke Syracuse last

2618
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:13,200
Speaker 3: night a little bit of a dud. Sure, but look

2619
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 3: what's coming up Saturday now? You know Houston and Arizona.

2620
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:16,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, can't wait.

2621
02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:19,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it feels like ever there's a

2622
02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:22,960
Speaker 3: Marquee Final four caliber game every week going forward in

2623
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:23,440
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve.

2624
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 37: Yeah, you know watching Arizona and Texas Tech on Saturday. Oh,

2625
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 37: I know the Bearcat's beat Iowall State, which is a

2626
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:32,600
Speaker 37: great win. But like you watch those games, and one

2627
02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:35,440
Speaker 37: of my frustrations with UC basketball right now is we're

2628
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:38,640
Speaker 37: still talking about them sneaking into the tournament. I want

2629
02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:40,800
Speaker 37: to win the Big Twelve one day. I want to

2630
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 37: play in games like that. I want to play in

2631
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:45,240
Speaker 37: those sort of games where it's, dude, they could be

2632
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:47,600
Speaker 37: a one or two seed in the NCAA tournament where

2633
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:51,040
Speaker 37: they're competing for league championships or there's a single digit

2634
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:53,560
Speaker 37: number next to their name, and I watch those teams

2635
02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 37: play against each other, and I go, how much stuff

2636
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 37: has to happen, because like, we're gonna do this, whether

2637
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:05,560
Speaker 37: West continues to be the head coach or not. It's

2638
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:07,360
Speaker 37: got to make the tournament. Got to make the tournament.

2639
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:09,560
Speaker 37: Just gotta sneak in make the tournament. Maybe they can

2640
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 37: finish five hundred in the Big Twelve. I don't want

2641
02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 37: to do that anymore. Yeah, like soon I'd like to

2642
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,240
Speaker 37: talk about like how can they play in games like

2643
02:12:18,280 --> 02:12:20,200
Speaker 37: that last night? How can they play in games like

2644
02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:22,880
Speaker 37: the ones coming up on Saturday? And it just feels

2645
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 37: like they're so far. I want a Kingston Flemings, That's

2646
02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 37: what I want.

2647
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Speaker 3: So good?

2648
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:27,680
Speaker 6: How much do I have to pay to get a

2649
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:28,600
Speaker 6: Kingston Flemings?

2650
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Speaker 3: But you know, based on what's happening, BYU loses their

2651
02:12:31,600 --> 02:12:34,400
Speaker 3: second leading scorer and Richie Saunders, if they could just

2652
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:38,520
Speaker 3: win at Texas Tech and at Kansas, then that BYU

2653
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 3: game at home feels a little more attainable.

2654
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:44,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, there are gonna be dogs at TCU, though.

2655
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Speaker 3: You've already done this in your head. I have, Yeah,

2656
02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:47,919
Speaker 3: tc US the game where everything falls.

2657
02:12:47,680 --> 02:12:50,480
Speaker 37: Apart, right, Yes, that's how that's how that's how life works.

2658
02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:53,320
Speaker 37: That's how life works. Right, you're feeling good about it?

2659
02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 37: And they lay an egg against the horn Frogs. Yeah. Look, man,

2660
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 37: I said this on the show yesterday. A week and

2661
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:01,720
Speaker 37: a half ago. West Miller was nearly brought to tears

2662
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 37: on the post game, and everybody thought things were going

2663
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 37: to totally fall apart and collapse, and that hasn't happened.

2664
02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:08,560
Speaker 6: That is not insignificance, agreed.

2665
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:11,800
Speaker 3: Neither is the Muliager Show, which comes up next. We're done.

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02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:12,680
Speaker 3: Have a great rest of your team?

2667
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 6: Disagree with that?

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02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 3: Muliager on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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