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Speaker 1: Benny g Ben Gesling at Ben Gasling via x. How

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Speaker 1: old were you in nineteen ninety nine? I turned sixteen

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Speaker 1: that year? Okay, so you were a you were a

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Speaker 1: Vikings fan. You were you were a football fan watching

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Speaker 1: Vikings games, listening to him on the radio. Maybe, ye,

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Speaker 1: do you happen to remember a Jeff George Jeff Wis quarterback? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be here now we're in change from now.

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Speaker 1: It's so unbelievable. He's a live wire.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when the quarterbacks go on Friday or Saturday

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Speaker 3: bet in terms of like letting a nine route go,

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Speaker 3: he could probably still sling it about as much as

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Speaker 3: anybody who's gonna be on that field.

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Speaker 1: Holy cow, Pete's all time armed people was on the team. Man,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bring this up with Jeff. I'm making Jeff

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Speaker 1: in ninety six and a half percenter that he shows

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Speaker 1: maybe ninety two he'll be here. He'll be here. But

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Speaker 1: Pete was on the team that year. They're at Silver Dome,

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Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham's having a really really rough run of it,

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Speaker 1: and Denny Green at halftime made the decision to go

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Speaker 1: to the Gunslinger and he won eight of ten games

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. You guys lost in the

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Speaker 1: divisional round at t WA Dome water bottle game, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: kickoff return and first play the oh yeah, first starting

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Speaker 1: that year, Jeff George seven touchdowns, one interception, man and

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Speaker 1: Pete play with him. I mean that that had to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was everything that you hear about him, as

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Speaker 4: you know, attitude as a teammate. You could not ask

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Speaker 4: better teammate than Jeff George.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Uh And I mean I met him when I was

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Speaker 4: in high school because I got recruited to Illinois and

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Speaker 4: he showed up when we were out. He pulls up

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Speaker 4: in his orange Corvette.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on the number one.

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Speaker 4: He gets out and then he was a girl like

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Speaker 4: straight out of a Motley Crow video.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his wife now, but she

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Speaker 1: got out. You know. It was the great one of

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Speaker 1: the f from Fast Times a Ridgemont High exactly right.

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Speaker 4: It was one of the greatest entrances I've ever said.

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Speaker 4: It was like you knew he was royalty down there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you know that back he made They

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man nicknamed the slapping Jeff George will join us

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Speaker 1: about an hour from now from Indianapolis and the scouting Combine.

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Speaker 1: So the vikings with adding a veteran quarterback. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any steam? Do you have any leans? Or is

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Speaker 1: it too early?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the names that have been out

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Speaker 1: You've got let me go through them one by one, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just stream it string your consciousness. Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's still a lot of good feelings about

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Speaker 1: So if you flirt with Kirk, do you think Kirk

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Speaker 4: To all right, now, give him a year to massage

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Speaker 1: And you can pretty Vikings my Vikings Entertainment Network studio

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Speaker 1: And want of steal Trap memory.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now I read something yesterday. The Vikings have a

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Speaker 1: coach named Jordan Trailer. Uh. He's heading into his second

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. Super I got to know him last. Super

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Speaker 1: hard working guys, like always working behind the scenes. Well,

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Speaker 1: All right. And to lastly, could there be any legs

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that one is. Of the names

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Speaker 1: Got it all right? Free agents?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the Addison question is part of the nailor

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Speaker 1: That ain't happening, right. I don't think it's going to happen, though.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to have enough of a market

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Speaker 1: Maybe more than that, I don't know. And and here's

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Speaker 1: Really really good stuff with Ben Gesling. All right, familiar

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Speaker 1: When things ended the way they did in Cleveland, personally

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Speaker 1: position coach. I've coach running backs as a position coach.

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Speaker 5: I have a great affinity for those positions, and those

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Speaker 5: two players in particular allow you to do different things.

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Speaker 5: I think what I would speak to those guys is

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Speaker 5: just their versatility. Jon's a guy that you can line

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Speaker 5: them up everywhere. You can throw it to him, you

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Speaker 5: can hand it to him. Kyle's the guy that, over

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Speaker 5: the course of his career, he's really lined up everywhere.

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Speaker 5: He's played outside the numbers, he's played in the slot,

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Speaker 5: he's played from the backfield. So there's certainly a versatility

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Speaker 5: there that we need to tap into as offensive coaches.

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong here. You've always been a

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Speaker 1: Chris Linstrom fan. I mean I remember when he was

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen or nineteen around there, he was coming out

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Speaker 1: of Boston College. You and I were chatting about players

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Speaker 1: and stuff, and I just remember you always saying good

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Speaker 1: things about him. Now you get to coach him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a well, it wasn't Winter Park, it

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Speaker 5: was Egan. We were out of Winter Park at the time,

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Speaker 5: but in the Egan there there was a lot of

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Speaker 5: fans in that building of Chris Linstrom that year when

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Speaker 5: he was coming out. I can still remember when he

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Speaker 5: was picked and there were some disappointed people in that

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Speaker 5: draft room. Yeah, he's wired the right way, he's a

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Speaker 5: great scheme fit, and he's been a really, really good pro.

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Speaker 1: Kevin FANSK Atlanta Falcons new head coach with us from

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Scouting Combine, Jeff Albrick. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: really really cool. And you know, I don't know Jeff,

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Speaker 1: but I mean I know of him and what he

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Speaker 1: does because generally, you know, when there's a new staff

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Speaker 1: or a new coach coming in, people are like, all right, great,

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Speaker 1: we got to move again, honey, and this and that,

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Speaker 1: and you kept him and you empowered him that way.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about it?

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Speaker 5: Well, Pa, I was a young coach that was retained.

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Speaker 5: Over my time when I was with the Vikings, there

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Speaker 5: was new coaches, and so I don't automatically say when

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Speaker 5: everybody's got to go, because I know there's good coaches

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Speaker 5: in the building. So we were able to retain nine

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Speaker 5: coaches from the previous staff, which I'm excited about. And

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Speaker 5: obviously Brick is a guy that I'm enjoying working with

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Speaker 5: right now. I can't wait to get to this season

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Speaker 5: with him. But he's wired the right way. The way

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Speaker 5: he thinks about the game. I think there's a really

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Speaker 5: cool amount of scheme that he brings. There's a really

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Speaker 5: cool amount of swag that he brings, which is important

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Speaker 5: when you're coaching defensive football. So yeah, I couldn't be

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Speaker 1: With Brick, somebody with whom you worked with the Vikings

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Speaker 1: multiple times. I think, like to twenty fourteen and twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen before he left, Clint Kubiak gets the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. That's fantastic. Then

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Speaker 1: becomes head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, brings Andrew

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Speaker 1: Jinoko with him. But for the purpose of Clint, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know, you guys have been important to each other

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Speaker 1: no matter where you've been. Likewise, for his father, Gary,

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Speaker 1: did you talk to Clint during the process, you know,

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Speaker 1: about like what goes into what he's doing. Yeah, many times,

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Speaker 1: you know, Clint is like, he's my football brother, you know,

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Speaker 1: so we are. We're very close.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't be more thrilled for him, number one, winning

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Speaker 5: a Super Bowl, so I'm very jealous of him, But

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Speaker 5: for him to go get his opportunity out there in Vegas,

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Speaker 5: I think, I think the world of the person. He's

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Speaker 5: going to crush it. But I'm really happy for him.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy for the family that they get to experience this,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, he's a stud as we know. And Kevin,

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Speaker 5: you know this because we've chatted about it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you start in Minnesota and O six and.

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Speaker 1: You're there until they you know, when they lose to

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Speaker 1: after the nineteen when they lose to the Niners in

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Speaker 1: the divisional round. So I mean that's nearly a decade

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Speaker 1: and a half in one spot, and then you're in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland for what six years? Five? Yeah, six years now,

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Speaker 1: So you haven't had to uproot your family as much

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Speaker 1: as a lot of people that we know have. That's

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Speaker 1: a blessing. But nevertheless, how are your kids and your

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Speaker 1: wife and your family and everything handling this move?

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that, Paul I would say everybody's got the

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Speaker 5: right mix of excitement and nervousness and all those things

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Speaker 5: that go into change.

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Speaker 1: Change.

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Speaker 5: Change can be hard, but the kids are awesome. The

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Speaker 5: kids are resilient, as we all know. So it's it's

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Speaker 5: important to me and my wife and setting our kids up,

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Speaker 5: make sure we get the school right and make sure

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Speaker 5: they're comfortable in our next stop. But yeah, they are,

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Speaker 5: They're they're ready for the next adventure. The owner of

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Speaker 5: the team, Arthur Blank. I mean they're all owners want

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Speaker 5: to win, you know, I mean Arthur, I mean you

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Speaker 5: could just tell when you listen to him talk about

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Speaker 5: some things that he really really wants to win, wants

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Speaker 5: to win.

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Speaker 1: Now. What was it like when when you met him

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Speaker 1: and you got to know him a little bit?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, really an incredible person. What resonated with me is

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Speaker 5: how he believes people should be treated, and people at

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Speaker 5: work and his associates that work with him. He treats

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Speaker 5: people the right way and and there's a there's an

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Speaker 5: amount of servant leadership that comes from Arthur that I

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Speaker 5: really really admire. And that's something that was evident to

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Speaker 5: me right when I started.

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Speaker 1: Talking to him. What does that mean? Servant leadership?

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Speaker 5: That means putting yourself in the background, allowing as a leader,

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Speaker 5: allowing others to have success, empowering others to do what

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Speaker 5: they do, and doing everything in your power as a leader,

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Speaker 5: in this case Arthur's case, to make sure that others

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Speaker 5: are getting the glory others are set up for success.

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Speaker 1: Amen, They're so many different things we can talk about

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Speaker 1: because you've worked with so many interesting people and and

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Speaker 1: seen so many things. For so many years, but it's

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Speaker 1: what do you think of this? Drew Petsing Okay, formerly

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for Arizona. Now he's the offensive coordinator in

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Speaker 1: the NFC North with Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery and

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Speaker 1: those nice receivers, and he gets to go against former

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Speaker 1: Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon and you are with both

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Speaker 1: of them with the Vikings. Gannon is Green Bay's defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's good enough to eat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's That's gonna be a fun matchup for

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Speaker 5: those guys when when it comes twice a year next

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Speaker 5: year where True's calm plays against jg Which I mean,

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Speaker 5: think about how many football conversations those guys have had

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Speaker 5: over the years.

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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: A meta level of discussion to be had in terms

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Speaker 5: of what they're trying to do on that Sunday.

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Speaker 1: How much last two for Kevin Stefanski from the combine

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Speaker 1: NORF Turner with NORV two time Super Bowl champion. He

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Speaker 1: wants to power run and he wants to vertical pass. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: you guys worked under end or with Norm I'm talking Drew,

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Speaker 1: you and and other offensive people. It did. Did that

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Speaker 1: kind of set in stone for you at that time

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Speaker 1: the importance of doing that, because your run schemes have

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Speaker 1: always been super well respected. Likewise for Petsing squeezing everything

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Speaker 1: he could out of that thing down in Arizona after

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Speaker 1: the injuries, and now you know he gets hired by Detroit.

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Speaker 1: His run game concepts are just unique and really good.

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Speaker 1: But it's a passing league, they keep telling us. But

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Speaker 1: you know, what do you think of like the Norv

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Speaker 1: Turner influence for you guys.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Norv was a huge influence on all of us,

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Speaker 5: Clint included, and Drew myself, Andrewsnoko, Scott Turner, We've obviously

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Speaker 5: all studied under Norv and just was was so cool

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Speaker 5: just watching him put together a game plan and how

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Speaker 5: we were going to tack them through the run game.

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Speaker 5: I was never afraid to just pack it in and

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Speaker 5: play bully football.

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Speaker 1: When you had to.

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Speaker 5: And then that opened up all those six routes as

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Speaker 5: we call as North calls them, and those deep end

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Speaker 5: cuts and those throws in the intermediate zones. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's all all built from what North had success doing

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Speaker 5: in Dallas with Troy Aikman, and those guys, and then

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Speaker 5: just over the years, Philip Rivers and certainly a lot

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Speaker 5: of things that we're doing there in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, general manager of the team said at the combine,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is going to be released by the team

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Speaker 1: first day of the league year. We both know Kirk

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Speaker 1: incredibly well. You worked with Kirk, high character guy man.

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Speaker 1: He had a game on Monday Night football last year

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Speaker 1: for the Birds against the La Rams. I think it

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Speaker 1: was Monday or Thursday, one of the two. Holy cow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just chewed him up and it looked

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Speaker 1: like vintage Kirk. I'm not going to ask you your

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Speaker 1: opinion of the situation, but like moving forward, I know

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Speaker 1: you got Penix coming off and injury. How do you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously feel great about Michael, but recognizing the most

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Speaker 5: important thing for him is to get healthy.

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Speaker 1: That's really what matters right now.

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Speaker 5: We can't start football in earnest until April seventh, so

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Speaker 5: that's where his folk. And then when it comes to

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Speaker 5: point for all thirty two teams, it's February. You got

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Speaker 5: time to work through everything. But I feel really strong

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Speaker 5: about the player that Michael can become with development.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the very best right there. Two

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Speaker 1: time Coach of the Year Kevin Stefanski, former offensive coordinator

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Speaker 6: The raffle that we do, we've started like expanding what

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Speaker 6: First Resource Banks incredible contributions go to all of the

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Speaker 6: raffle items, the door prizes and allowing us to you know,

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Speaker 6: bring people in to document at the event, so like

651
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Speaker 6: paying for a photographer, paying for someone to come like

652
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Speaker 6: shoot video and all of that. So it's incredible. We

653
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Speaker 6: have so many great partners. I'm so like, I'm just

654
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Speaker 6: like overwhelmed at what this event is or you know,

655
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Speaker 6: somewhere over like two hundred and fifty to three hundred

656
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Speaker 6: people that came on.

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Speaker 1: Well, last night was the first time that you weren't

658
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Speaker 1: relegated to the.

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Speaker 7: Top floor both we had both upstairs and downs. All

660
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Speaker 7: things incredible, right with a Yeah, just a ton of people.

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Speaker 7: And is is my man's name for cchgo Adam Hogue? Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I know, last name is Hogue.

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Speaker 1: But he and I yesterday were talking about the mentorship

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Speaker 1: program that's.

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Speaker 6: Knew this year that's new started.

666
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Speaker 1: Well what is it? And like what are you aiming

667
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Speaker 1: to accomplish?

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Speaker 6: So I'd had request in previous years, like people wanting

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Speaker 6: to have more programming around the night of can you

670
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Speaker 6: can I mentor somebody can I share? Can I provide

671
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Speaker 6: some sort of guidance about how to do the combine?

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Speaker 6: I've had other people ask like, hey, can I shadow

673
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Speaker 6: you for the week, and usually when you get here,

674
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Speaker 6: everything's already so chaotic. You've got you know, jam packed

675
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Speaker 6: days with everything. So I wanted to connect people ahead

676
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Speaker 6: of time, so then when they get there, we had

677
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Speaker 6: a mentor mentee pairing. People went downstairs, had a chance

678
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Speaker 6: to have one on one time, like watching Diana Russini

679
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Speaker 6: was one of the foremost insiders in our business. Right,

680
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Speaker 6: go and talk to some you know, young twenty something

681
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Speaker 6: who's just starting. So it's it's the pass it on

682
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Speaker 6: mentality that I wanted to you know, put into my

683
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Speaker 6: event and to have others benefit from it because people

684
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Speaker 6: helped me along the way. This is my way of

685
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Speaker 6: being able to give that back well.

686
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Speaker 1: And lastly, here being a woman in the NFL and

687
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Speaker 1: this being an eight year event. Now we added the

688
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Speaker 1: mentorship program, growing this evening and the totality of what

689
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Speaker 1: it potentially could become year round for some people. I

690
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Speaker 1: love it. You see what I'm saying is like growing, growing,

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Speaker 1: what you're doing here, it's very important to you, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 6: And I would love to see the go places like

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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl, the Senior Bowl. There we go the

695
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Speaker 6: I mean owners meetings when we do some informal gatherings

696
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Speaker 6: other places, but an event of this magnitude where you've

697
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Speaker 6: hundreds of people coming out to support, I would like

698
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Speaker 6: to see more of these.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great job, thank you, it's fantastic. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: no chance the Bears go to Indiana, right I mean,

701
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Speaker 1: it's not like if we talked about this last year,

702
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Speaker 1: it'd be a zero, But I'm saying it's a two

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Speaker 1: or three percent.

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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, I don't think it's super realistic

705
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Speaker 6: right now, because I still think Illinois is going to

706
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Speaker 6: have a chance to rebuttal have a chance to give

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Speaker 6: a best and final offer. But the fact of the

708
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Speaker 6: matter is the wheels have been greased, jeez for them

709
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Speaker 6: to come to Indiana if if they so choose, if

710
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Speaker 6: they run out of options, because you can't fault the

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Speaker 6: Bears for at least attempting given the roadblocks that they've

712
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Speaker 6: had to try to get this thing built somewhere. But sure,

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Speaker 6: the bill passes last Thursday, the Senate Bill twenty seven,

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Speaker 6: which will provide like the ability to issue bonds, find

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Speaker 6: constructions like you know, help aid in the construction the

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Speaker 6: funding of the stadium, and the Bears would still be

717
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Speaker 6: committing their two billion dollars, but it's the taxpayer help

718
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Speaker 6: that they get from a place like Indiana that they

719
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Speaker 6: would not get somewhere else. Maybe because Illinois is trying now.

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Speaker 6: They say that it took a while to get to

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Speaker 6: this point because the Bears were going from Arlington Heights

722
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Speaker 6: back to focusing on Chicago. Now they're focusing on both.

723
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Speaker 6: Now it's Arlington Heights, now it's Indiana. Like, I think

724
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Speaker 6: Bears fans are kind of tired of all of the

725
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Speaker 6: ping ponging back and forth. Yeah, it's not it's too much.

726
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Speaker 6: You've got to find there's been four years of this.

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Speaker 6: There needs to be some sort of tangible progress.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 6: And I think that we're going to get close to

730
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Speaker 6: it within the neck, like the first quarter of the year.

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Speaker 6: I just feel like it's come to a head at

732
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Speaker 6: this point that you can't keep delaying this, And that's

733
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Speaker 6: why the Bears are trying to put pressure on Like

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Speaker 6: how I read the Indiana thing is they're trying to

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Speaker 6: put pressure on the state of Illinois to make this happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the only way you can Sometimes the back

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Speaker 4: and forth. All right, Well, the Bears, what are they

738
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Speaker 4: going to do with safety, right.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, let me let me ask one more off this.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go ahead. Kevin Warren, former Viking's chief operating officer,

741
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Speaker 1: president of the Bears. We know Kevin as detailed, and

742
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Speaker 1: I mean he if Kevin wants something, Kevin generally gets it.

743
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Speaker 1: Sure it's four years. I mean, like Kevin's role in

744
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Speaker 1: this whole thing, like, like, how's that working out?

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Speaker 6: I think he the project that, like there's not a

746
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Speaker 6: parallel here. I know a lot of people thought, Okay,

747
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Speaker 6: when he did it in Minnesota, he's gonna be able

748
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Speaker 6: to do it here will be you know, snap your fingers.

749
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Speaker 6: Stadiums up in thirty six months. Illinois politics are a

750
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Speaker 6: little different, and you're dealing with a team that isn't,

751
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Speaker 6: frankly as liquid ownership is not as liquid as the

752
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 6: Wolfs and others across the league. Like, so I think

753
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Speaker 6: that's a big portion of it for a team that's

754
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Speaker 6: never owned its own stadium since they moved to Illinois

755
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 6: or moved to Chicago in twenty twenty one. So there's

756
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Speaker 6: a lot of mitigating factors here that Kevin had to

757
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Speaker 6: navigate in this process that I'm sure he would say

758
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 6: were completely different hurdles than what he faced with Ardent

759
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Speaker 6: Hills and being able to get it built in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you were building it literally on the site

761
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Speaker 6: of the former like the former stadium. A lot different

762
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Speaker 6: now with trying to get it done in Arlington Heights.

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Speaker 6: But I think I think the Bears statement last week

764
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Speaker 6: when they say we're doing our due diligence, this is

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Speaker 6: the most meaningful step in getting in any part of

766
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Speaker 6: their stadium building process. But I still think we're a

767
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 6: ways away from any formal decision about where they're going.

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Speaker 1: Bears free agency and draft.

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Speaker 4: My major my major questions would surround the safety position.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Bayern, Jakwan Brisker. We have a safety that might retire.

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Speaker 6: I'll believe it when I see it.

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Speaker 1: Are the what are the odds that you'll see both

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Speaker 1: one or two or or neither?

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Speaker 6: I think higher odds for Kevin Bayerd. It came off

775
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Speaker 6: a career you know, career year more or less. I mean,

776
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 6: he led the league with in interceptions back in his

777
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Speaker 6: Tennessee days.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic, He's he's.

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Speaker 6: On the other side of thirty. So I think that

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Speaker 6: there is a deal that can be worked out to

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Speaker 6: keep him here on another two year stint. I think

782
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Speaker 6: Brisker actually played his way out of what their price

783
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Speaker 6: range is going to be. He has a healthy season

784
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Speaker 6: last year for the first time in his entire career,

785
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 6: no concussion issues, which I know for him was a

786
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Speaker 6: big deal. They can't keep both, so I think if

787
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Speaker 6: you talk about how they're prioritizing guys, I think they're

788
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Speaker 6: probably prioritizing Kevin Byerd knowing that that's probably a less

789
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Speaker 6: expensive option and being able to retool what They have

790
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Speaker 6: three picks in the top eighty nine, so I imagine

791
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Speaker 6: that's a Day two pick for them.

792
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Speaker 1: Is Ben Johnson's disdain for the Green Bay Packers reel? Yeah,

793
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Speaker 1: it's ten to ten reel.

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Speaker 6: I absolutely think it's real. I think that you, like,

795
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Speaker 6: you watch those videos of him in the locker room

796
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 6: afterwards where he's riled up to say the least, and

797
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 6: it makes like you can it's tangible. This isn't fake.

798
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 6: There's nothing fake about the dude tearing his shirt off

799
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Speaker 6: in the Philly locker room. Everybody around him to buy

800
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 6: into the raw, raw nature. But like that's you know,

801
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 6: the stuff with the Packers. I think that ownership knowing

802
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: how much the Green Bay and Chicago rivalry means to

803
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Speaker 6: the mccaskey's Yeah, they bought into that, Like you know,

804
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Speaker 6: the day after they played on a Saturday for the

805
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 6: wild card game, they win, and then Monday Ben talks

806
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Speaker 6: and the question of when you're saying, bleep the Packers,

807
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 6: I hate those guys, Like, how did that sit with

808
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 6: George McCaskey, who notoriously does not enjoy cursing geez'z Like

809
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Speaker 6: George and I are on the same page. We met.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Fortney Cronan ESPN at Courtney Ark Cronan VAX.

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Speaker 4: So much much easier discussion after you win exactly. How

812
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: do you think the Bears are gonna go about fixing

813
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: the pass rush? Are they gonna do it through the

814
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: draft free agency?

815
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Speaker 6: I think they have to do both, because, if you like,

816
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 6: a lot of the projections have four ed drushers off

817
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 6: the board by the time they're on at twenty five.

818
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 6: I don't I don't love the defensive tackle class from

819
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 6: what we're seeing right now, because they've they've struck out

820
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 6: on guys that they've gone all in on. Now some

821
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 6: of it it's like I think the Dio Dangbo thing

822
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 6: came back to bite them last year when we're at

823
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 6: week eight, right before he gets hurt, and we're talking

824
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 6: about their very expensive pass rusher being better being moved inside,

825
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 6: like any better run defender, Like you don't obviously you

826
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 6: need your you need a stout run defense, but they

827
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 6: didn't pay you all pat for that when you could

828
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 6: have gone cheaper there. So I think that there's going

829
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 6: to have to be a big emphasis on it in

830
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 6: free agency in the draft. I don't think it's Max

831
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 6: Crosby or.

832
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 4: How Is Montes sweat scene in that whole thing, because

833
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: that was a big move to bring him, and.

834
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: When they traded for him, he went lights out. I mean,

835
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: he was phenomenally but then get his contract and then

836
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: you pay.

837
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 6: Him, right, But I mean he got the contract before

838
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 6: he played it down in Chicago. He got it on

839
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 6: the Saturday after he was traded.

840
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: And you're in a league football mind, so even though

841
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: you weren't here when he played Brian mckinning, I mean

842
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: you're remember him. You've heard about him, left tackle stuff

843
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: like that. Brian had some start and stop to him,

844
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: like when Bryant tried and was engaged and got his

845
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: hands on you. You weren't getting around him. Well, I

846
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: watched Montes sweat and he reminds me of a defensive

847
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: version of Brian McKinney, where when Montes goes ten of ten, Yeah,

848
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: he's tough to stop. But is that a fair analysis?

849
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 6: I think so because there's times where I mean, I

850
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 6: think of the you know, first and foremost, your best

851
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 6: your highest paid player should be your best players, like

852
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 6: full stop. And there's been times where I feel like

853
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 6: there have been some not excuses, I don't know if

854
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 6: that's the right word, but it's like, oh, well, we

855
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 6: got to find him, find yeah out. It's got to

856
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 6: find ways to free him up more, gotta find ways

857
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 6: to create more one on one matchups, Like you're being

858
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 6: paid as one of as a top ten edge rusher

859
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 6: in this league. You've got to be more productive all

860
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 6: the way around. And there have been times that it

861
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 6: feels like he's just a guy out there, Which that's

862
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 6: okay if you're not making twenty four and a half

863
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 6: million dollars a year, that's okay if they had other options.

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Speaker 6: But they've been saying it now for two off seasons.

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Speaker 6: They want to put him in a better situation. The

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Speaker 6: way that that happens so he can be the best

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Speaker 6: pass rusher he can be is to have somebody opposite

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Speaker 6: him that can actually handle the load.

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Speaker 1: And all right, so just a few more for Courtney

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Speaker 1: cron in ESPM because assumat least she has to get

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Speaker 1: back to esp and Cleveland for part two of the

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Speaker 1: twenty minute conversation on Todd Monkin and de Shaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: You were over at that table for it, hey, but

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Speaker 1: I made it here on time, it did. Stupid question

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Speaker 1: I should know this. Did you attend the National Championship

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Speaker 1: game with your Alma model? Did it? Or you couldn't

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Speaker 1: make it? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: The problem was, well, I went to the Peach Bowl.

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Speaker 6: I was hosting First Take on January first, and I

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Speaker 6: couldn't make it to the Rose Bowl. I had so

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Speaker 6: much FOMA. I was like, all right, if they win

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Speaker 6: this game, yeah, I'm going to Atlanta. They not only won,

883
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Speaker 6: they dominated Alabama. So my friends and I flew down

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Speaker 6: to Atlanta for the Friday night Peach Bowl and then

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Speaker 6: the Bears win that playoff game on Saturday. Because I

886
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Speaker 6: thought they were going to get scheduled on the Saturday

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Speaker 6: window and I thought Okay, maybe I could make it

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Speaker 6: because winner lost and least have a day in between.

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Speaker 6: But I didn't control my own schedule based on what

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Speaker 6: was going to happen going into the NFC Championship, so

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Speaker 6: I was not able to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well you're Indiana Hoosiers. Okay, just dominating everybody including

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Speaker 1: the Canes to win the national championship. Mendoza is going

894
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Speaker 1: to be the first overall pick in the draft. He'll

895
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Speaker 1: be the quarterback for the Raiders. It surprised me when

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Speaker 1: when I learned Texas A and M has sixteen players

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Speaker 1: here at the combine. The Hoosiers have nine. They're like

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Speaker 1: the eighth most. I thought there'd be more than that

899
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Speaker 1: unless it was just a bevy of youthful, exuberant I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, they've dominated the transfer portal. They have guys coming

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Speaker 6: back that were part of that JMU class that came

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Speaker 6: over with Signetti. But nine for me, like, think about

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Speaker 6: that for a second. First guys going to the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. One is that's a great point.

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Speaker 6: They have not ever had that. The fact they have

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Speaker 6: nine draftable prospects great point.

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Speaker 1: I was looking go ed it the other way, like

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Speaker 1: you got to have more than that. I just everybody

909
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Speaker 1: watched you. You were that good. But nine actually is

910
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Speaker 1: a fat number for IU if it's not Dan, Dan Feeney,

911
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Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, and Antoine randelllel. Now, lastly from me, what's

912
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Speaker 1: it like working because Courtney does so much elite work

913
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Speaker 1: with ESPN TV, what's it like working with Stephen A. Smith.

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Speaker 6: He's great. There will never be anybody who grinds harder

915
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Speaker 6: than him.

916
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I'm a fan.

917
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Speaker 6: Like he's got a work ethic that you can tell.

918
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Speaker 6: He was a beat writer a long time ago. I

919
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Speaker 6: think he covered Philly.

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Speaker 1: Sports, yeah, Philly Enquirer maybe, Yep.

921
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Speaker 6: He started as like a desk clerk and he was

922
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Speaker 6: a beat writer for like twenty years. Coming in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's it's awesome. I love doing it. I'm

924
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Speaker 6: doing it a bunch throughout the next couple of months.

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Speaker 1: I'm really What about Dan Orlovsky. I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 6: He's great too.

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Speaker 1: His film study and his takes and how he meshes

928
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Speaker 1: that together in television related pithy fashion. That's an hard

929
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Speaker 1: it's hard.

930
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Speaker 6: So like we did. I wrote a story back in

931
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Speaker 6: November about quarter back wristbands like, who uses them, who doesn't?

932
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Speaker 6: What's the point of it if you do use it

933
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Speaker 6: if you don't. And I went on an NFL I

934
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Speaker 6: to kind of break down what I had learned, and

935
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Speaker 6: it was actually kind of cool because this was when

936
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks were kind of quietly on the rise because

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Speaker 6: Sam Darnold's used one before and he gave a lot

938
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Speaker 6: of really good insight on it and the way that

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Speaker 6: Dan then broke that down using a forty second play

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Speaker 6: clock to show you, like just how much information you

941
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Speaker 6: have to fit into something like that in that short

942
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Speaker 6: of time. That comes from being able to truncate it.

943
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Speaker 6: But because you have like you know, risk jacket thirteen

944
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Speaker 6: or whatever, like you know, wristband ten, however, they you know,

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Speaker 6: minimize the verbiage. The way he explained that was, I mean,

946
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Speaker 6: I was watching in like my monitor. I'm like, wow,

947
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Speaker 6: it's really fascinating the way he broke that down.

948
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Speaker 1: And lastly, for Fistbomb, Courtney was on nine to Noon

949
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Speaker 1: last year in June, Okay, late June, early July, before

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Speaker 1: training camp. I'm asking her about the Newfangled Bears. She's

951
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Speaker 1: I am Jerome Adoonsa is being as effective as he was,

952
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Speaker 1: and it was kind of under the cover of darkness,

953
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Speaker 1: DJ Moore all that stuff Loveland and she nailed it.

954
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Speaker 1: But you know, in watching Bears games this year, not

955
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Speaker 1: only against the Vikings, the way because tight ends, having

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Speaker 1: three tight ends who can do different things, and a

957
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Speaker 1: running game. I mean, you can call it a passing

958
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Speaker 1: league all you want, You can change the rules all

959
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Speaker 1: you want. When you have the right tight ends and

960
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Speaker 1: the right running game, you're gonna go a long way offensively.

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Speaker 1: The way he uses Loveland than Durham smythe from Miami

962
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Speaker 1: and what he did, and Cole Comet who kind of

963
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Speaker 1: does everything pretty well. And then the running backs with

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Speaker 1: Manunguy and Swift, that was kind of the secret sauce

965
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Speaker 1: behind everything, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's that's a big part. Like everybody thinks

967
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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson super creative play caller, Like all these wild

968
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Speaker 6: pass plays, they're throwing the ball the offensive lineman. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's great. Like the run game is the foundation of

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Speaker 6: his offense.

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Speaker 1: Yea.

972
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Speaker 6: And they were the number three rushing offense last year,

973
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Speaker 6: and it did not look like that the first.

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Speaker 4: Four weeks, and the money spent on the interior of

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Speaker 4: that offensive line started here.

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Speaker 6: I remember asking him a year ago. I was like, so,

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Speaker 6: do you think you can flip your offensive line in

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Speaker 6: one off season? And he's like, you know, didn't show

979
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Speaker 6: or no foreshadowing. He's going to do it in five

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Speaker 6: days the next week.

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Speaker 1: Before free agency, which was smart.

982
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Speaker 6: They did the two trades and then the Monday like

983
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Speaker 6: right after, right as the window opened, they made it

984
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Speaker 6: clear that they were going after Drew Dolmen, but that

985
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Speaker 6: that changed every You still.

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Speaker 1: Have questions of tackle. Yeah, is that safe to say?

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Speaker 6: Well with Asi Trapillo because he's got a pateeller tendon injury.

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Speaker 6: He's not going to be back anytime soon. So what

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Speaker 6: kind of player is he when he comes back? There's

990
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Speaker 6: the second round pick. You weren't sure he was going

991
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Speaker 6: to be a left tackle. You find that he can

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Speaker 6: play left tackle, But is it a stopgap measure? Is

993
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Speaker 6: it potentially drafting somebody at twenty five? Like then what happens?

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Speaker 6: Are you creating a log jam?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 6: How does it work? That's a big one. That's a

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Speaker 6: huge question for them.

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Speaker 1: I'm laving at my man over at the ESPN Cleveland table. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Part two of what's next for Jerry Judy is just

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Speaker 1: a few minutes away.

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Speaker 6: Okay, maybe it's DJ Moore. Maybe they'll trade him there.

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Speaker 1: Well. Other question, Hey, great job with women in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and how it's growing. It's such a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: Courtney Cronan ESPN, ESPN dot Com at Courtney R. Croninvx

1005
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: covers the Bears. UH nine to noon is eagerly awaiting

1006
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Speaker 1: the arrival of former Minnesota Vikings quarterback Jeff George. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to head out to the concourse to find him.

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Speaker 1: Be right back.