1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Hour two on Twin City's News Talk, series of incidents 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: and evolving ice agents draw complaints from in Twin Cities 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: from activists. We'll give you further details on what I 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: had predicted yesterday with these two stories becoming a bigger 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: issue because of the activists. The last hour, we were 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: talking about Jasmine Crockett here on Twin City's News Talk 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: from the sixty five one carpet next day installed studios 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: and what a hack a grifter she is. We ended 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: up getting on movies because that's what happens here on 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: the show. 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 2: On occasion I. 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: Was talking about we were talking about Christopher Nolan films. Oh, 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: it was individuals who have degrees, but you don't end 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: up doing anything with those degrees, and how just because 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: you have degrees, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're an 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: intelligent person, and that would apply to Jasmine Crockett. And 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: I gave the example of Christopher Nolan, the movie director, 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: and how he never had any formal movie training, and 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: then we were talking about how Christian for Nolan does 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: that thing where he makes a mainstream movie and then 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: makes one of his own sort of pet project movies 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: and then makes a mainstream movie and how that's been 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: going on in Hollywood for a long time, which brings 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: me to a comment from Hans. 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: Hey John, I would say, James Cameron does that a 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: bit too. I would actually say that's what the Avatar 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: movies are. I actually don't like them, so every sequel 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: is just another Hey, give me some more money so 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 3: I can do some more deep sea exploration or space 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: exploration by James Cammon, have a great day. 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: That's a perfect example of how this stuff is so 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: subjective because I completely disagree with that. It doesn't follow 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: along with my analogy at all. Love you, Hans, but 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't follow my analogy at all. I know it 35 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: does with your logic because you don't like the Avatar movies. 36 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: But you look at James Cameron's movie credentials. He actually 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: hasn't made a lot, so true lies. That was mainstream 38 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Terminator two, Judgment Day, the Abyss. I mean, all of 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: these are made to be big blockbusters aliens. Of course 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: you have the Terminator that's in there. I'm going in 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: reverse order here, Let's see aage and then Avatar the 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: Way of Water in the n Avatar Fire and Ash 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: and I love and I love the Avatar films. They're spectacles. 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: That's what James Cameron does. He just he makes these. 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: He's not trying to make any larger point beyond just 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: pushing the boundaries of movie making in and of itself, 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: and he just You go to a James Cameron movie, 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: you know that you are going to be transported to 49 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: someplace you'd never been before. 50 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: You may or may not like where you're visiting, but 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: that's what's happening. I'm excited about Fire and Ash. Can 52 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: you tell I know? I know, I know it's gonna 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: make a lot of money. 54 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: They have no cultural relevance whatsoever, no lasting power within 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: pop culture at all. You do not see individuals dressing 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: themselves up in blue paint when it comes to different 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, conventions taking place to look like NAVVI. 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: But they make a lot of money. 59 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: Agents drawing guns at Augsburg University. Ice agents are accused 60 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: of pointing guns to students and staff at the university 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: campus in Minneapolis on Saturday afternoon. According to the University 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: of the agents were targeting an undergraduate who ultimately was 63 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: detained when they aimed weapons at witnesses during the confrontation 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: outside the residence Hall. I'm wondering exactly what was going 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: on in that moment and if it really is as 66 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: egregious as people are saying. These tactics Augsburg University wrote 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: with the implicit threat of violence are unacceptable, dangerous, profoundly disturbing. 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Now you know what's unacceptable, dangerous, and profoundly disturbing. It's 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: comments like this from city council members, this one Robin Wansley, 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: talking about the issue of ice in our city. This 71 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: is a self proclaimed democrat socialist. She is a true 72 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: believer in the cause, and she makes that well known 73 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: every time she goes online and posts a video like 74 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: this one. 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: Hey, y'all is council member Robin Wansley. And I'm coming 76 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: to you because I know all of us are grappling 77 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: here Minneapolis with Trump's announcement of him having ICE agents 78 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: target not only just immigrant residents, specifically are Somali residents 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: here in Minneapolis and across the Twin Cities. So just 80 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: want to. 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: Share a couple of things. 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: I know several abductions by ICE agents have been prevented 83 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: by quick actions from our residents, So please continue to 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: show up. 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: She's just making stuff up. 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: What are the circumstances specifically to what she's talking about. 87 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Are those just assumptions being made by the activists on 88 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: the ground. Do you really mean to tell me that 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: ICE officials had legitimate warrants for arrest and the citizens 90 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: prevented ICE from going and executing those warrants. 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying. 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: You have similar comments and I'll play the audio later 93 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: on from Minneapolis man Baby may Or Mom Jean's Jacob 94 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: Frye perpetuating this idea that ICE is just randomly snatching 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: people off the streets with no cause whatsoever in doing so, 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: just because they happen to be profiled and look a 97 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: certain way. 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: And report those sightings that you're witnessing in the community. Also, 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: please take down this number four a rapid response hotline 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: from MANACA that is doing phenomenal work to support our 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 4: immigrant neighbors here. It's sixty one two four four one 102 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 4: two eight eight one against sixty one two four four 103 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 4: one two eight eight one. Please take that down, Text 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: it to your friends, make sure people have that number. 105 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: That also said the City of Minneapolis is taking up 106 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: a separation ordinance this Tuesday, December ninth, at one thirty 107 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: pm at City Hall. Essentially, the changes that council is 108 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: making is to make sure that it's known if there 109 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: are any city staff who are collaborating with ICE, you 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: do not have a place to work here at the 111 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 4: City of Minneapolis. So please come out December ninth. 112 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: If you are collaborating with lawful law enforcement, you don't 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: have a place here. 114 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: Who are they defending, by the way, I'll tell you. 115 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: In the Augsburg University situation, they were attempting to block 116 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: the arrest of an illegal alien sex offender. Crime Watch 117 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: Minneapolis had posted this regarding the incident that took place. 118 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: ICE officers in December sixth arrested Hejesus sase Do Portillo, 119 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: an illegal alien criminal, although again according to Jasmine Crockett, 120 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: it really depends on what that crime was. 121 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: Right. 122 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: Just because he committed a crime doesn't make him a criminal. 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: According to Crockett, they arrested him while he was getting 124 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: into his vehicle. He's a registered sex offender, had a 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: previous arrest for driving while intoxicated. The university administrator in 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: campus security attempted to obstruct the arrest. They're defending sex 127 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: offending criminals, our officers told the school administrator in campus 128 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: security that I had a warrant for the illegal aliens arrest. 129 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: The school administrator told Ice officers that they were violating 130 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: university policies. Our officers informed them the federal law supersedes 131 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: any university policy and that if campus security would not 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: stop blocking the law enforcement vehicle from exiting, they would 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: be obstructing justice. The school administrator continued her efforts to 134 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: block the vehicle from leaving and order campus security to 135 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: stand in front of the vehicle. Our officers follow their 136 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: training to use a minimum amount of force necessary to 137 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: clear the area and successfully arrest this criminal alien. And 138 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: as I also mentioned yesterday, the other story of the 139 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: scanning attention the four people detained as more than a 140 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: dozen ICE agents raided the Burnsville home on Saturday, including 141 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: parents of a seven year old boy and a father 142 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: of three. Okay, I feel sorry for those kids. It's 143 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: a bummer that they have parents that broke the law. 144 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: It happens, the landlord said, through a translator. Okay, they 145 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: just kept paying on the door until. 146 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: They broke in. Well, maybe you should answer it next time. 147 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: Perhaps that's on you. 148 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: The landlord's brother told a local TV station that agents 149 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: pointed their guns at family members who are US citizens 150 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: and took their phones. The agents allegedly entered the home 151 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: without sharing a warrant, showing a warrant allegedly. The incident 152 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: has sparked criticism from a second district representative, Angie Craig 153 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: and the Democrat politicians. They don't even wait to get 154 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the further information. They don't care, they don't get follow up, 155 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: they don't get pushed back when it turns out that 156 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: the individuals they were actually going and defending in their 157 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,119 Speaker 1: so brave ex posts has turned out to be criminals, 158 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: in this case, sex defenders for crying out loud, and 159 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: this story gets repeated over and over and over again. 160 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: Here's Minneapolis man Baby may Or Mom Jean's Jacob Frye 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: talking with Asmi Murphy on CBS correct. 162 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 5: Our police officers will not coordinate with ICE or any 163 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 5: federal agency around immigration law enforcement work. Now, we do 164 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: work with federal agents around important criminal activity, narcotics, gun violence. 165 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 5: We arrest perpetrators of violent crime. But we will not 166 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 5: work with federal agents around immigration law enforcement. Why because 167 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 5: we've seen the unconstitutionality of it. We've seen the chaotic 168 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: nature that it creates. We know that it breaks apart 169 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 5: families that make Minneapolis better, and we want nothing to 170 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 5: do with it. 171 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: Hey, Jacob Fry, if I'm asmy Murphy and I'm actually 172 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: good at my job in doing my job, I follow 173 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: that up with what has been done that's unconstitutional? What 174 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: is the chaos you're referring to? Because the only chaos 175 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: that I see is coming from the community, the activists 176 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: and the individuals that don't respect law enforcement because they've 177 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: been told not to by their elected officials. Of course, 178 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: there's no follow up regarding any of that. So how 179 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: do we get to the billion dollar fraud estimate? I'm 180 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: going to share this with you coming up in just 181 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: a moment. Lou Ragoose from Caro Levin has another post 182 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: breaking down the numbers and pushing back on what the 183 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: strip The Star Tribune reported over the weekend. Bill Glon 184 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: has a follow up in an American Experiment as well. Bill 185 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: Glann also posted this over the weekend. Former Star Tribune 186 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: editor Patricia Lopez wrote on Bloomberg on November twenty sixth 187 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: under this headline, we can stop fraud in Minnesota without 188 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: attacking somalis. As Bill writes in a perfect world, Lopez 189 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: is absolutely correct. She writes in that post, it is 190 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: true that Minnesota has seen an extraordinarily rash of fraud 191 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: in taxpayer funded programs. Recently, more than seventy people have 192 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: been charged, including several Somalis. 193 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: Several. Wall Street Journal columnist. 194 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Matthew Kennetti writes this, of the eighty six people charge 195 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: so far, all but eight are of Somali descent. Seventy 196 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: eight of eighty six works out to more than ninety percent. 197 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: That's more than just as several. So how do you 198 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: prosecute industrial scale fraud when the demographics are so skewed? 199 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: And this is what Lopez says. 200 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: The way to handle Minnesota's real struggles with fraud is 201 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: to find and bring justice to the actual perpetrators. 202 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: Listen, she's not wrong, but to ignore. 203 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: The individuals involved in the fraud and the rationale and 204 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: reason why is only going to contribute potentially to further 205 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: fraud down the line. David Schultz, the political advisor to Minnesota. 206 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: He seems to be the go to guy from Hamlin 207 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: University over and over again. There's a piece that will 208 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: cover in the eight o'clock hour. He says the same thing. 209 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: He basically says that the problem that we have with 210 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: fraud is not a Somali problem, it's a DFI problem. Now, 211 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: he's not wrong in this being a DFL corruption problem, 212 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: in these programs being susceptible to fraud. However, he's wrong 213 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: and that two things can both be the same. It 214 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: can be both, and it is both. Now the way 215 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: that you handle it and deal with it is through 216 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: the letter of the law. You don't hold people accountable 217 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: because of their race, religion, identity background. You hold them 218 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: accountable for the crime in which they are perpetuating. But 219 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: to ignore the ninety percent problem in Minnesota's fraud coming 220 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: from one community is to go and essentially provide a 221 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: massive excuse to individuals that may go and want to 222 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: commit this fraud in the future. And I just want 223 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: to mention one more thing on the left, if you 224 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: mention Somali in any way, you're a racist under their rationale. 225 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: That's the game that's being played right now. 226 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,119 Speaker 1: But the problem is Democrats have made identities central to politics, 227 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: so too bad, so sad if they don't like factual 228 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: base to commentary that focuses on a specific demographics the 229 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: liberals do not get exclusivity or rights to focus on 230 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: someone's background when making a judgment call. And that's exactly 231 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: what they've been attempting to do in casting anybody that 232 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: would bring up the Somali communities involvement in the fraud 233 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: in Minnesota as being just a racist in order to 234 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: try to attempt to dismiss it. All right, I'll get 235 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: to those comments from both Bill Clawn and Lubri Goose 236 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: coming up, and we'll talk with our adopt that Senator 237 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson just after seven point thirty. What's 238 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: the latest regarding the Obamacare subsidy fight heading into the 239 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: end of the year. 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But iHeartRadio has 250 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: your yearly recap, and what I like about it too 251 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: is that there are on the recap on the iHeartRadio app, 252 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: it actually tells you how many talkbacks you left. So 253 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: we have Friend of the Show Raquel. I think her 254 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: number was one hundred and twenty eight. Yeah, I know 255 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: it's a lot. I have my guess over who the 256 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: top contenders would be a friend of their show. Scott 257 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: would absolutely be there. Tom would be there, but I 258 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: don't know where Tom went. We haven't heard from Friend 259 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: of the Show Tom, and you know, wellness check on Tom. Yeah, seriously, 260 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: it's been a couple of weeks. Now, I'm a little 261 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: bit concerned. What did I do to make Tom matt. 262 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I gave him a hard 263 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: time for something that maybe wanted him to pitch off. 264 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: I have one guy that keeps emailing me. He's very 265 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: upset whenever I talk about Hollywood. Not because he doesn't 266 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: like the movie talk while he doesn't, but he's convinced 267 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: that I'm just supporting criminals bye bye. 268 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: By watching Watching. 269 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 6: At the Angle, I thought he was gonna go, Yeah, No. 270 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: It's just I'm supporting pedophiles and criminals by watching by 271 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: watching any movies whatsoever. To that, I say, he who 272 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: live in glasshouses should not throw stones. I'd be curious 273 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: while all of your dollars are spent. One quick sidebar 274 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: before we get into back to fraud. I want to 275 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: play this clip from lou Or Goose really quick. I 276 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: had somebody just post on X a friend of the show, Scott. 277 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, but I'll bring it up 278 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: again because he brought it up. Please look into the 279 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: absentee Ballot Forever application being pushed out by Minnesota lawmakers. 280 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: Were doomed. 281 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: It's not being pushed out by Minnesota lawmakers. What I 282 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: have been told is that the absent team ball mailers 283 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: that you have been receiving is actually coming from a 284 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: conservative Trump supporting group out of Colorado. The reason behind 285 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: this is that Democrats have typically owned the absentee ballot game. 286 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: And while a majority of us, myself included, want to 287 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: see a limit on absentee ballot voting, and when it 288 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: comes to voting outside of election day and mail in voting, 289 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: we're not there yet. So what this effort is is 290 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: try is an attempt to try to play the same 291 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: game that Democrats are playing by targeting low propensity GOP 292 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: voters and getting them on the absentee ballot list in 293 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: order to make sure that next year, heading into the midterms, 294 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: they go and vote. Because Democrats have already done a 295 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: good job at attempting to do this. So don't dismiss 296 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: it out right. You don't have to sign up for 297 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: but understand that's the motivation what I've been told behind 298 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: those absentee ballot mailers. 299 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: It's not coming from Democrats, It's coming from Republicans. So 300 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: how do we. 301 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: Get to the billion dollar fraud estimate? So Bill Glonh 302 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: at Center of the American Experiment breaks it down in 303 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: a piece on American Experiment dot org. But Lumer Goose 304 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: from Cara Levin put up another video. Here's what he 305 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: had to say, countering the Star Tribunes reporting from over 306 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: the weekend how. 307 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 7: Much money has been stolen from government programs in Minnesota. 308 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 7: Here's what Minnesota's Acting US Attorney Joe Thompson, the lead 309 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 7: prosecutor on the majority of these fraud cases, told me 310 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 7: in an interview a few months ago. 311 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 8: I said, we we have one billion where the cases 312 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 8: will probably charge. 313 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 5: I think the total amount of fraud is significantly larger 314 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: than one billion. 315 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: Dollars, larger than one billion dollars total. That's right, multiple billion, yes, So. 316 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 6: How does it add up? 317 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 7: The Feeding our Future meal fraud has reached more than 318 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 7: three hundred million dollars. A jury found Amy Bach, the 319 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 7: executive director of Feeding Our Future, who was guilty under 320 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 7: the prosecution's theory that she facilitated the theft of two 321 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 7: hundred and forty million dollars of taxpayer money as seen 322 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 7: on this trial exhibit. In the first trial, the defendants 323 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 7: were found guilty of stealing forty nine million dollars of 324 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 7: meal program money. And here's what most people don't understand. 325 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 7: There's another nonprofit just like Feeding our Future called Partners 326 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 7: in Nutrition. Forty seven million dollars of the stolen money 327 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 7: from that first trial was funneled through Partners and Nutrition, 328 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 7: not Feeding our Future. Another guy who pleaded guilty named 329 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 7: Hadji Salad admitted scamming nineteen million dollars through Partners in Nutrition. 330 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 7: So right there in public court records that anyone reporter 331 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 7: or not can review, I've shown you three hundred and 332 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 7: nine million dollars in stolen. 333 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 6: Child nutrition funds. 334 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 7: What's the total amount going to be We don't know 335 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 7: yet because not nearly as many suspects stemming from Partners 336 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 7: in Nutrition have been charged yet. But those two nonprofits 337 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 7: doled out a grand total of four hundred and fifty 338 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 7: three million dollars of taxpayer money during the pandemic. 339 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 6: It's a matter of what percentage of that was fraudulent. 340 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 7: The Minnesota Attorney General's Office has charged about sixty million 341 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 7: dollars in medicaid fraud over the last five years. But 342 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 7: what pushes the total of fraud in Minnesota well over 343 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 7: a billion dollars are the schemes currently being investigated in 344 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 7: programs like housing stabilization, autism services, addiction, and integrated community supports. 345 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 7: On these graphs, you can see how these programs exploded 346 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 7: into hundreds of millions of dollars of payments. The fraud 347 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 7: in Housing Stabilization was so bad that it paid out 348 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 7: two hundred and forty million dollars despite only being budgeted 349 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 7: originally for two point six million per year, and Governor Walls. 350 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 6: Had to completely shut it down. 351 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 7: Coming to a final fraud dollar total will be a 352 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 7: matter of figuring out what percentage of those program reimbursements 353 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 7: were fraudulent. 354 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 6: But back to former acting US Attorney Joe Thompson. 355 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 7: When he put the total over a billion and then 356 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 7: interview with me, he said that the autism scam could 357 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 7: end up being even bigger than feeding our future. 358 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 6: I'm louver Goose follow for more news. 359 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: Again that comes from Carol Levin. Listen. It's good reporting, 360 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: it's necessary reporting, but. 361 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: It's also designed by the Star Star Tribune Kim's buddies 362 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: over there to muddle the issue and distract from the 363 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: failures of Walls and Ellison. 364 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: That's why they're doing this. It doesn't mean you don't 365 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: counter it. 366 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: Billglon is right to go and do so with the 367 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: scandal tracker on American Experiment dot orglu ver Goose's reporting 368 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: is great. Hat tip to the media in this case 369 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: for doing the right thing. But this is designed to 370 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: be a distraction to take heat away in any way. 371 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: Shape or form from Walls. 372 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: And again it demonstrates, just like I said yesterday, just 373 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: how big of trouble that Walls is in right now, 374 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: that this is really their only tactic to distract from 375 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: the national coverage that fraud continues to get. I'm doing 376 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: a podcast today for like an hour at eleven o'clock 377 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: talking about this very this very issue. An individual I've 378 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: never heard of before, but they certainly get a lot 379 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: of views online. So I'm like, all right, I'll talk 380 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: Minnesota fraud with you guys. So I'll give you an 381 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: update on that on tomorrow's show. Senator Ron Johnson hearing 382 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: taking place healthcare costs Senate Democrats pushing Obamacare subsidy vote 383 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: designed to fail as Republicans call the plan un serious. 384 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 1: We'll get up to date with this with our adopted 385 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: senator from Wisconsin next right here on Twin City's News 386 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 387 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 9: Hey John, I on the absentee ballot initiative. My sister 388 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 9: had asked me about this the other day because she 389 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 9: got one, and I looked into it. I also that 390 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 9: was what my understanding was, that it is a conservative 391 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 9: group and that they are just trying to get people 392 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 9: to not saying they have to do it. But that 393 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 9: is who's coming from. 394 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: Good Morning, and I love your show. So we've been 395 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: so focused as the entire nation has been on the 396 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: fraud here in Minnesota, that there's other items that are 397 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: going on, especially at the congressional level, and I'm very 398 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: pleased to be speaking to our adopted senator out of Wisconsin, 399 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson, to get us up to speed of what 400 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: is happening in Congress currently. 401 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: Good morning, a senator. How are we doing this morning, boy. 402 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 8: John Yeah, Minnesota, you've been making the news when it 403 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 8: comes to a welfare fraud. Does bad job are you? 404 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 9: Guys? 405 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: You're feeling left out in Wisconsin and we're happy to 406 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: give away some of our fraud if you guys would 407 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: like some of it over in your great state. 408 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 8: No, listen, I think what we're seeing in Mineapolis is 409 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 8: just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, let's face it, 410 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 8: the Somali's they're amateurs at this. We've got groups that 411 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 8: have been probably to find the feral government for decades. 412 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 8: They know how to do it and kind of escape detection, 413 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 8: primarily because as you're seeing with Governor Waltz, you've got 414 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 8: Democrat elect officials who aren't worried about detection, completely ignoring it. 415 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 8: So out of Washington you've seen we just had the 416 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 8: GAO report on fraud within the Obamacare exchanges. And what's 417 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 8: interesting about this? So they attempted to sign up I 418 00:22:54,600 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 8: think twenty four fraudulent individuals or fraudulent accounts. They for 419 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 8: twenty three of them eighteen were still on the exchanges 420 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 8: getting substies in September twenty twenty five. You know, for 421 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 8: all I know, they're still on there, but just a 422 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 8: repeat of a investigation they did right after the start 423 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 8: of the Obamacare and hasn't changed the exact thing they 424 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 8: happened in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. So Parragon, a group 425 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 8: of you know experts to estimated it is probably about 426 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 8: the twenty four million supposedly on the Obamacare exchanges, six 427 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 8: million are phantom accounts, people that unscrupulous agents have signed up. 428 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 8: They collected the commissions got both system insurance companies because 429 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 8: the insurance companies got the the payment directly to them 430 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 8: and there are no claim policies left about forty percent. 431 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 8: So you know, obviously these people they're they're not real people, 432 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 8: but all the money's pointed brokers and in insurance companies, 433 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 8: which is why for example and United helped their stock 434 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 8: price is up and seventy seven percent just the implementation 435 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 8: wibombacair go figure. 436 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought that up again talking with 437 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson. You know, we've obviously been spending a 438 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: lot of time talking about this on the on the show, 439 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: but you do raise an interesting point, and that is 440 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: the larger systemic problem that really began. It's its exposure 441 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: after Trump's inauguration. You look at what DOJ was doing 442 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: and rooting out what was taking place within USAID. I mean, 443 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: this is more than a this is more of a 444 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: feature than a bug of the of the Democrat Party. 445 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: And while we've been focused here in Minnesota and will 446 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: continue to be on what's taking place with the billions 447 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: and taxpayer dollars having gone up and smoke, it is 448 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: very indicative of a much larger issue plaguing the Democrat 449 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Party as a whole, as you demonstrated with these Obamacare, 450 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, subsidies in this debate, Where is this debate 451 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: currently as we head towards the towards the end of 452 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: the year, and what's the expectation in the Senate of 453 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: what's going to happen with these subsidies. 454 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 8: Demcrats just won an issue. So the shutdown really wasn't 455 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 8: about the extending enhanced subseason. That was just the excuse. 456 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 8: The whole purpose of shutdowns was to make sure that 457 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 8: President Trump Republicans had no success, that the economy is 458 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 8: in as bad a shape as it possibly can be. 459 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 8: In November twenty twenty six, that the premiums have skyrocketed again. 460 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 8: With their allies in the media, they've done pretty successful 461 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 8: job but trying to blame Republicans for the skyrocketing premiums, 462 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 8: even though it's Obamacare that's causing health care costs not 463 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 8: to be fordable. Remember Obama promised you keep your doctorate 464 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 8: health care plan that was twenty thirteen live a year 465 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 8: for in polit a fact, and then they said that 466 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 8: for a family, you're going to see your premiums declined 467 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 8: by about twenty five hundred dollars per family. I mean, 468 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 8: premiums are up by one measurement one hundred sixty nine percent. 469 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 8: So it started Obambcare in places up thirty nine cents, 470 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 8: So that's four point three times very of inflation on 471 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 8: a state by state basis. I mean, Obamcare has been 472 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 8: a complete disaster, and the only reason most people don't 473 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 8: know about it is again there's only there's somewhere around 474 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 8: i'd say eighteen real people on the exchanges. Most people 475 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 8: get health care from Medicare, Medicaid or employee sponsored plan, 476 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 8: and they're hiding they're masking the massive increase in premiums 477 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 8: with all these subsidies, so that the people on a 478 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 8: bombcare in some cases now paying no premiums or sero, 479 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 8: which is led to the fraud or pages or fraction. 480 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 8: About ninety percent of the premiums on the exchange they're 481 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 8: paid for by the tax payer. 482 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: I know the Senator Chuck Shu where I put together 483 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: a plan. I believe it's kind of den on arrival. 484 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 1: Have Senate Republicans landed on any sort of solution to 485 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: what you're speaking to right now. I know there's a 486 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: possibility of subsidies going directly to Americans in the form 487 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: of health savings accounts, but where are the Senate GOP 488 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: right now in terms of, you know what the plan 489 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: is moving forward? 490 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 8: Well? Because Democrats will not admit they have a problem, 491 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 8: and again they're not interested in working with any of us. 492 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 8: I've been talking to people about it, and you know, hey, 493 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 8: let's cover the the about one point six million people 494 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 8: who got into retirement early during COVID because there were 495 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 8: subseas in hands subsieds for people overforms in the popy line. 496 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 8: It's about one point six million people, some of them 497 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 8: because they're nearing retirement, they don't qualify for Medicare, they 498 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 8: make too much money to qualify for Medicaid. They're lily 499 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 8: facing premiums and extras a thirty thousand dollars years because 500 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 8: of Obamacare. So I think government caused their problem. I mean, 501 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 8: we can help up, but that's only one point sixty 502 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 8: million people. I've got to score on that. It costs 503 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 8: way less, you know, at most five billion dollars per 504 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 8: year to take care of that one, which we can 505 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 8: easily pay for by simply requiring people to prove citizenship 506 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 8: when they sign up for Obamacare. So again, there's common 507 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 8: sense ways of doing it. But Democrats are not interested 508 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 8: in solving the problem. They want an issue. And you know, 509 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 8: again the legacy media, the corporate media, playing right along 510 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 8: with them, which makes it pretty tough for us to 511 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 8: get the truth out there. 512 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: Shifting gears a bit. 513 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump has been talking about in his you know, 514 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: in his words, the success of the tariffs. There's potent 515 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: of tariffs going and funding concerns that farmer has farmers 516 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: have over the loss of trade that they've been dealing with. Also, 517 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: some talk about sending money back to the taxpayer of 518 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: the former two thousand dollars checks, although I don't believe 519 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: he's moved very much beyond that. The current talk has 520 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: been about this funding for farmers. I'm curious your your 521 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: thoughts on these potential moves by President Donald Trump. 522 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 8: Well, we're thirty eight trillion dollars in debt, we'll probably 523 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 8: have a depicit to somewhere on two trillion dollars this year. 524 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 8: The average deaths or the last five years one point nine, 525 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 8: so you know, we are to focus on that. That's 526 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 8: that's one of the reasons things are unaffordable is we 527 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 8: continue to devalue our dollar. A value held nineteen ninety 528 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 8: is worth fifty one cents, a value held in twenty 529 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 8: fourteen's worth seventy four per cents, and the value held 530 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 8: in twenty nineteen worth eighty cents. That's why you can't 531 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 8: afford things. Okay, So that's caused by pretty two many dollars, 532 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 8: tasing too few goods. Now, one of solutions is increase 533 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 8: more goods, so you incentivize more production. More production of 534 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 8: goods here and Trump that's what he trying to do 535 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 8: with the trade wars is he's trying to get the 536 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 8: more manufacturing back here, produce more goods in America. Again, 537 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 8: I've been concerned about the trade wars. I want stability. 538 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 8: I haven't been particularly critical because I think a lot 539 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 8: of people realize that we've been treated and fairly by 540 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 8: our trading partners. But the farmers that they want trade, 541 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 8: not aid. I mean, I guess it's good that President 542 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 8: Trump recognizes that this has been pretty devastating for farmers, 543 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 8: so he's trying to help him out. But that help 544 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 8: would be very imperfect. I mean, not everybody harm by 545 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 8: trade is going to be able to again because it's 546 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 8: a government run program. Are they going to efficiently reimburse 547 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 8: people for the harm cause by the trade wars? I 548 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 8: doubt it. So Again, as soon as we can bring 549 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 8: some certainty stability back to our economy in terms of 550 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 8: figuring out where we are trade with people, again, I 551 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 8: agree with President Trump. We've got it. We have to 552 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 8: be treated more fairly by our trading partners. But it's 553 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 8: been going on now coming on to a year, and 554 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 8: there has been a lot of harm done to Wisconsin manufacturers, 555 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 8: Wisconsin farmers the same thing. I'm sure in Minnesota. 556 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: We have a talkback that came into the iHeartRadio app 557 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: a quick question for talking with our adopted senator from Wisconsin, 558 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson. 559 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 5: Hey, can you ask Ron with the statuses of President 560 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 5: Trump's appointments in the Senate? 561 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: Thanks? 562 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: Well, they just did. 563 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: What is the status of potential Trump appointments in the Senate? 564 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 8: Senator, We're going to confirm something like eighty to ninety 565 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 8: this week. Again, the Democrats are so obnoxious, so obstructionist. 566 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 8: We had to change the rules of the Senate was 567 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 8: just a majority vote because President Trump was wasn't even 568 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 8: on schedule to get five hundred of his nominees confirmed. 569 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 8: Generally in the first Congress president gets about a thousand, 570 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 8: So that's how noxious Democrats were. So we have changed 571 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 8: the rules. So now we're doing these nominations in block 572 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 8: and now we're head of schedule, so he'll get to 573 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 8: more than most presents because we have changed the rules. 574 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: So lastly, if there's anything else you'd like to mention 575 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: regarding the debate over the Obamacare subsidies, I just have 576 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: one question. Do you anticipate that kind of sounds like 577 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: it that this debate is going to roll into in 578 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: the next year. What's your expectation and is there anything 579 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: else you like the listener to know. 580 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 8: Senator Well, yeah, I don't think this is going to 581 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 8: be solved this month. But understanding anybody who wants to 582 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 8: extend these substies, I know your two senators do. They're 583 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 8: willing to perpetuate until somewhere around twenty seven to thirty 584 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 8: billion dollars worth of annual fraud with these no premium 585 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 8: policies brought about by this is hands substy So again, 586 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 8: I just we're thirty eight billion dollars in debt. We 587 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 8: can't afford that kind of massive fraud layered on top 588 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 8: of what we're uncovering in Minnesota, which I truly believe 589 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 8: is just the tip of the iceberg. You've got Democrat governors, 590 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 8: Democrat jurisdicians that look the other way. They sign up 591 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 8: ineligible people for all these benefits. The non government organizations 592 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 8: are set up to funnel the benefits. They take a 593 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 8: nice cut off of this, and it's just corruption across 594 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 8: the board, which is what government produces. 595 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: Heading towards the Christmas break, a Senator Ron Johnson. If 596 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't get a chance to speak with you between 597 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: now and next Thursday, I just want to say thank 598 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: you for the time that you've given to the show 599 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: throughout the year, and I hope you have a fantastic 600 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Christmas in New Year's and I look forward to speaking 601 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: with you again early next year, provided that we don't 602 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: talk between now and then. 603 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 8: Well, Americ Christmas Junior listeners as well. God bless you, Thank. 604 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: You, Thank you, Senator. Always great to speak with you. 605 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: New piece in the Star Tribune we were talking earlier. 606 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: We played the audio from Lou Ragose and comments from 607 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: Bill glah centered the American Experiment breaking down the Star 608 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Tribune pointing out that according to what they've seen officially, 609 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: there's only one hundred and fifty two million in fraud, 610 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: not billions. 611 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: It's focus. You and I both know that it's a distraction. 612 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: It's a distraction to take away from the failures of 613 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: both Governor Tim Walls and Keith Ellison. 614 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: So is this article here interesting? 615 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: Though Trump looms large over Minnesota GOP race for governor, 616 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: average that the President's sway among Republicans who are seeking 617 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota's highest office was fully apparent during a gubernatorial candidate 618 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: forum in southwestern Minnesota. 619 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: All right, so let me share with you some details 620 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: from this. 621 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: Inside the crowded room Minnesota State University Southwest, nine Republicans 622 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: who are running for governor were asked to name a 623 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: policy of President Donald Trump's that they disagreed with. 624 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: I think we're at. 625 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Eleven, if not twelve candidates at this point, unless Brett, 626 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: you've announced and I haven't and I missed the announcement. 627 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: Are you running for governor? I have not announced? Okay, yeah, 628 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: can you? I know you're from the neighboring state. 629 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 6: I don't know. Am I even allowed? 630 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 8: Yeah? 631 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: No, native born? 632 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 6: I don't know. 633 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to be native born to run. 634 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: I've never checked your idea. Are you a legal citizen? 635 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: These all very personal questions. I apologize I should ask 636 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: you this off the air. 637 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 6: Yes. 638 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: Of the Republicans who are running for governor, they were 639 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: asked to name a policy of President Donald Trumps that 640 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: they did agreed with, aside from passing mentions of tariffs 641 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: in the national debt. Most of the prominent candidates in 642 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: the race use the opportunity to praise Trump. Yeah, this 643 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: should not come as a shock to anybody. I'm not 644 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: saying that they are, but just again, the whole purpose 645 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: of this piece, in the way that its frame makes 646 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: me makes me laugh. It's the Jasmine Crockett way. It's 647 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: all anti Trump, all the time. Nearly every candidate clearly 648 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: stated that they were seeking Trump's endorsement in the governor's race. 649 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: As businessman Kendall Qualls put it, we are seeking it, 650 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: and if he does, then game over match. 651 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: Just Kendall. 652 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: Trump's sway among the Republicans who are seeking Minnesota's highest 653 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: office was fully apparent to d during the gubernatorial candidate 654 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: forum on Monday night, even as the president's approval numbers 655 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: have fallen and the GOP faced broad electoral defeats a 656 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: month ago. 657 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: Bias so blatant. 658 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: Yes, in the proper context of that, of course, is 659 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: that those weres staunchly blue races. They're not going to 660 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: point to the Tennessee race, right because it had just 661 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: as much relevance when it comes to Republicans as it 662 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: did for Democrats. 663 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: I'll be whatever, it's this ar Tribune. My expectations are 664 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: low in Minnesota. 665 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: The GOP candidate's risk of backlash from the party's base 666 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: if they go against the president, or they just won 667 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: support of the president because they're happy with what he's doing. 668 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: There's that option as well, Ryan Faircloth. The comments are 669 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: likely to provide ammunition for Governor Tim Walls as he 670 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: seeks a historic third consecutive four year term. Walls is 671 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: trying to make next year's election a referendum on Trump, 672 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: while Republicans are zeroing in on fraud cases that have 673 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: occurred during the governor's administration. 674 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: Okay, they're not wrong on that, there's some truth in it. 675 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: So you've got former gubernatorial nominee Scott Jensen, Minneapolis attorney 676 00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: Chris Maddele, food company executive Patrick Knight, retired mixed martial 677 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: artist arts fighter Brad Kohler, former US Naval intelligence officer 678 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: Philip Parrish, former Saint Cloud City council member Jeff Johnson, 679 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: along with Lisa Damoth, Kristen Robbins. 680 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 2: I think around eleven. Actually they do mention my governor. 681 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: I mean my governor like my Pillow. 682 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't mean my governor, I just mean he needs 683 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: to run that campaign, my governor campaign. Talking about Michael Lindell. 684 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: He's also announced he's running two. So the farm drew 685 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: about one hundred people as Minnesota came as Minnesota is 686 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: in the national spotlight. This is hysterical, by the way, 687 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: So the way that the Star Tribune frames this, it's 688 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: totally Republicans pounce. So the farm which drew one hundred 689 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: people came as Minnesota is in the national spotlight following 690 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: Trump's Trump's attacks against the Somali community and the federal 691 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: investigations into fraud in the state's welfare program. 692 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: No, the fraud came first. Brian Faircloth at. 693 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: The Start treviewing this is this is not national attention. 694 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: There is some truth to that, but the fraud is 695 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: what brought it here, not just Trump and Republicans pointing 696 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: it out. 697 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: But Republicans pounce on many issues. 698 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: The GOP candidates were in alignment, not a huge surprise there. 699 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: They said they wanted to reduce fraud, improved the state's 700 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: education system, and lower taxes, among other things. All of 701 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: the candidates said they would sign bills barring transgender athletes 702 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: from competing in girl sports and disallowing sanctuary cities and 703 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: counties in Minnesota. Most of the candidates said they would 704 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: support term limits for governor and the legislature, as well 705 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: as repealing the moratorium on nuclear energy. Mattel and Jensen 706 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: both jabbed at GOP lawmakers in the race. Chris Maddel 707 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: said all of the state government, Republican and Democrats have 708 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: nothing with respect to fraud. They've literally done nothing except 709 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: write letters. Mattel, who then cited his own fraud fighting credentials, 710 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: was it. Mattel is certainly taking a very interesting approach. 711 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: To this race. I guess this's the only way that 712 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: I can describe it. 713 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm kind of not sure why he's not running as 714 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: an independent at this point in time. But if you 715 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: want to align yourselves with conservatives here in Minnesota, I'm 716 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: not sure that criticizing the Republicans, especially those in the legislature, 717 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: that have done everything within their power to do to 718 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: deal with the fraud but have been shot down every 719 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: single step of the way. And yeah, I'm defending them 720 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: a little bit, I'm not sure that saying that Republicans 721 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: and Democrats have done nothing with respect to fraud is 722 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: the right approach. Also, from what I've heard, dismissing the 723 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: very appropriate concerns over his past donation record, donating multiple 724 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: times to the Secretary of State Steve Simon donating money 725 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: to Governor Tim Walls, especially post COVID. 726 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 2: Now supposed to have Mattel. 727 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: I'm working on having him on the show next week 728 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: before I head off on vacation. So these are all 729 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: things that I'll be talking about with him, and he's 730 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: not shied away from addressing any of these issues whatsoever. 731 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: It just seems to be a rather interesting approach as all. 732 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that it's a winning one, but then again, 733 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: right now, none of these candidates are really igniting a large. 734 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: Group of people on fire. And I'll get to that 735 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: in just a moment. 736 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 6: Now. 737 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: While he praised Trump at times, Jensen was the only 738 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: candidate who said he wasn't seeking Trump's endorsement, though he 739 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: added that he certainly would accept it if he got it. Okay, 740 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: The battle for the GOP nomination, the article goes on 741 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: to say, could stretch into August. The Minnesota Republican Party 742 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: we'll hold their endorsing convention next spring to pick a 743 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: candidate to take on Walls. If Walls is still the candidate. 744 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: Half the candidates in Monday's forum said they would take 745 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: their campaigns to the August primary election if they do 746 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: not win the endorsement. Kendall Qualls express concerns on Monday 747 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: Night about a divisive intra party fight in the months ahead. 748 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: If we go to the primary divided, we're going to 749 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: give Tim Walls a third term. Qualls said, we have 750 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: to solidify behind the candidate before that primary, and we 751 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: have to solidify behind the candidate after the primary. It's 752 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: kind of why I take a bit of an issue 753 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: with what Mattel is doing because I agree with what 754 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: Qualls is saying here. I mean, Chris Maddle is entitled 755 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: to his opinion and he can approach his campaign however 756 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: he wants. But that being said to be costic towards 757 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: our own party right now is only going to seek 758 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: to end up dividing us. If that's the approach you 759 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: want to take, go for it. But if we do 760 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 1: want to beat Walls or whoever the nominee is next year, 761 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: providing that Walls goes survives this fraud of scandal that's 762 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: currently plaguing him, I don't want to see Republicans go 763 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: and eat our own to the point where whoever the 764 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: nominee is ends up coming out of that primary so 765 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 1: damaged that they've lost a majority of the support from 766 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: Republicans who don't want to go and vote for them. Now, 767 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: that would be disastrous for everybody. So now again, none 768 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: of these candidates really getting any significant level of combined enthusiasm. 769 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: That is more of a reflection on Walls than it 770 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: is the candidate. Walls is a disaster, and people are 771 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: searching for a slam duck slam dunk candidate against him, 772 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: and that's just not realistic. 773 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: It really isn't support whoever you want to support. Don't 774 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: keep saying this. 775 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 1: During this process heading to the primary, and then get 776 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: behind whoever that candidate is, even if that individual isn't 777 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: the person that you supported, and even if the people 778 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: around you aren't supporting the same candidate as you, don't 779 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: bloody and beat them up along the way, because that's 780 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: not going to do anybody any good. 781 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: All right, we'll get some more of. 782 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: Your comments from the iHeartRadio app coming up in just 783 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 1: a moment. Those are brought to you by Lyndall Realty, 784 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: also Minneapolis Times. 785 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 2: Why is Tim Walls running? 786 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: I was really impressed with this piece questioning why Governor 787 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: Walls was still running for re election and then I 788 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: got to the end and they did something that so 789 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: many local dfllers do. After laying out all the reasons 790 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: why in this case Walls shouldn't be the nominee and 791 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: should not continue to be governor, they end up defaulting 792 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: to Orange man Bad and we're gonna support Walls anyways. 793 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: I'll give you details on this. Also have some fantastic 794 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: emails that rolled in regarding paid family leave that I 795 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: want to want to share some real world experiences that 796 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: people are dealing with, so I'll share those with you 797 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: from Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. Coming up next on 798 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,919 Speaker 1: Twin Cities News Talk