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Speaker 3: it in a national sports as well. There is a

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Speaker 3: lot going on in the world of sports. College basketball

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Speaker 3: in full swing. Talk about what Miami did last night

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Speaker 3: on the road Kent State. The place was buzzing, free

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Speaker 3: beers were going given handed out and at times it

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Speaker 3: the winning streak for Miami, and yet they find a

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Speaker 3: We'll talk some college hoops about what happened last night.

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Speaker 3: We'll also look ahead to what's happening tonight. Xavier on

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Speaker 3: the road at Creighton looking to an eve, looking to

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Speaker 3: avenge a forty one point loss at the Sintas Center

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Speaker 3: to open up Big East play, and the UC Bearcats

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Speaker 3: coming off their first win over a top two team

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Speaker 3: in college basketball since nineteen sixty seven, first top ten

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Speaker 3: one team in the country, the undefeated Arizona Wildcats nine

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Speaker 3: o'clock tip tonight. We'll talk some Bearcats and Wildcats as well.

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Speaker 3: The Big Twelve has made some football news. The Big

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Speaker 3: Twelve Championship Game is now moving from Saturday to Friday,

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Speaker 3: December fourth of this upcoming year, and the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: we'll spend some time today talking about the Bearcats and

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Speaker 3: what their twenty twenty sixth schedule looks like. There are

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Speaker 3: some odds and ends from around the sports world that

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Speaker 3: I want to dive into here in segment number one,

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Speaker 3: and then we'll move on from that this story. I

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Speaker 3: know Zay we mentioned Xavier place creaton the night Zavier

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Speaker 3: the story that Rick Patino Austin is going for his

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Speaker 3: nine hundredth coaching win. Think of all the games and

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Speaker 3: all the years that Rick Patino has put into the

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Speaker 3: sport of college basketball and going for win number nine hundred,

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Speaker 3: he just so happens to get to do it against

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Speaker 3: his son. That is wild.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: That is pretty crazy. When you think about all the

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Speaker 3: games this man has coached, it adds up to number

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Speaker 3: nine hundred with an opportunity to do so against your

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Speaker 4: And I know, just the last few months of getting

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Speaker 4: to learn Richard Patino's personality and his mindset and his

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Speaker 4: nothing more than to beat him and prevent him from

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Speaker 4: getting nine hundred against him, and would rub it in

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Speaker 4: his face a little bit. I think that would be awesome.

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Speaker 3: I saw Patino's press conference where he said just out,

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Speaker 3: that is happening. He also said in the video.

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Speaker 4: Could you imagine coaching against your dad? It's crazy, that

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Speaker 4: would be pretty nuts, absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 3: There was also a clip going around of I believe

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Speaker 3: it's his weekly radio show with Byron and Joe and

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Speaker 4: I bet the Reds enjoyed that. Yeah, from their new partner.

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Speaker 3: I have three college basketball things I want to bring

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of psychological war fall that

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Speaker 4: And he said after the game, like, so he was

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Speaker 4: He's like, I wanted to piss them off. I want

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Speaker 4: up with all these different excuses. Maybe it was the trip,

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Speaker 4: to the Big Ten, UCLA knocked off the fourth ranked

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Speaker 4: Ohio State on Saturday. Mick Cronin's team gets a huge win.

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Speaker 4: They moved to five and three in the Big They

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh really, which makes I'm sure what you're wondering

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Speaker 3: even crazier is because after the win, Mick Cronin was.

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Speaker 5: I want to thank to Big Ten for giving us

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Speaker 4: Oh has there ever been a more miserable little man

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Speaker 3: I think it's insane that that was said after you

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Speaker 3: just knocked off the fourth rank team in the country. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm so proud of the guys and how they competed tonight.

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Speaker 4: All he ever does is complain.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge win for them. All he ever does

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Speaker 4: Talking about, Hey, glad to have our fans in the building,

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Speaker 4: the schedules. I also think this is what he's done

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Speaker 4: all season long, and so he's done his whole career,

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Speaker 4: a miserable dude. There are insufferable. There are eighteen teams

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Speaker 4: in the Big Ten? Correct in basketball? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I know there's a lot more than ten.

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Speaker 3: There are eighteen team So this is going to happen

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Speaker 3: to I don't think the Big Ten wants to be like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, let's schedule and let's screw mick right

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Speaker 3: for the Big Ten? Don't you want as many teams

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Speaker 3: to be good as possible. Wouldn't you want UCLA to

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Speaker 3: maybe met but that was after a win they beat

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Speaker 4: Celebrate that you've known about this schedule for months? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: while now, you know how it's gonna work. It just

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Speaker 4: that bothers me that, like, it's one thing. If you

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Speaker 3: Other college basketball news, get ready for the floodgates to

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Speaker 3: open up wider. Former Alabama basketball player Charles Bidiaco in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, entered the NBA Draft played in the

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Speaker 3: His appeal was denied. So what did he do? He

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Speaker 3: a temporary hold and he can rejoin Alabama's basketball team immediately.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable what is happening and the precedent that is

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Speaker 4: Should the NBA, who operates the G League, come up

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Speaker 4: with a rule that says, once you play for US,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, what I'm curious about is at what point

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Speaker 3: just he played at Alabama for two years, he left

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Speaker 3: years of college eligibility Alabama. I just where does it end?

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Speaker 3: Where does it stop? Other news around the sports world

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Speaker 3: that we'll get to here in segment number one. Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, Austin. I kind of like the fit

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Speaker 4: as the brightest mind in the NFL when it comes

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Speaker 4: to run game and you want to talk about a marriage.

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Speaker 4: John Harball or Jim Harball wants to run the football

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Speaker 4: and they have kind of built their team with that

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Speaker 4: I think that makes them better and obviously gives Mike

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Speaker 3: As always, we could talk more about the NFL. We'll

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Speaker 2: Now here's your chance to win.

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Speaker 4: Office shooters on the three point line. We saw on

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Speaker 4: They won't use it for the wind, no good side.

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Speaker 3: That is how it sounded last night. Miami gets a

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Speaker 4: Great game last night, Our win Shuler's call of the

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Speaker 3: The the game itself, Peter Souter for Miami. You want

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Speaker 4: He almost mestered her out.

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Speaker 3: The twenty fifth ranked Miami RedHawks. That to me was

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Speaker 3: Texas Tech went on the road beat Baylor ninety two

435
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Speaker 3: to seventy three, and John Calipari his twentieth ranked Arkansas

436
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Speaker 3: Razorbacks dominate fifteenth rank Vanderbilt ninety three to sixty eight.

437
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Speaker 3: Florida continues to roll. NC State lost to NC State,

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Speaker 3: Kansas without Bill self got to win on the road

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Speaker 3: to Colorado. Georgia a good win over Missouri. That is

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Speaker 3: your top twenty five action from last night. We'll shift

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Speaker 3: gears when we come back from our break because there

442
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Speaker 3: is some big action locally taking place tonight. Outside of that,

443
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Speaker 3: not a ton in the college basketboard Gonzaga is in

444
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Speaker 3: auction against Pepperdine. Seventh rank Nebraska takes on Washington twenty

445
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Speaker 3: second rank North Carolina host Notre Dame, and Illinois will

446
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Speaker 3: host Maryland. But when we get back, let's talk about

447
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Speaker 3: the Bearcats as they head to Arizona to take on

448
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Speaker 3: the top ranked team in the country. And the Xavier

449
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Speaker 3: Musketeers look to avanje brutal Big East opening loss at

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Speaker 3: home to Creighton as they now go on the road

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Speaker 3: to Crayton tonight. As well. We'll spend a little more

452
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Speaker 3: time when we get back on college basketball, and then

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Speaker 3: we'll open up the phone lines for the first time

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Speaker 3: today five to one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Get your calls in, get your talkbacks in as well.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to talkbacks in the middle of our number two.

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Speaker 3: It's Sincy three sixty. We're a service of our good

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Speaker 3: friends at Skyline Chile on the home of the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Natti Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Sarah at least from my heart Media here.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back since he three sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. Thanks to our friends at Skyline Chile. Anytime

463
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Speaker 3: you're feeling good and hungry. It's always skyline time. We'll

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Speaker 3: take a couple of phone calls. We'll talk some college hoops.

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Speaker 3: We've got a UC Big twelve football schedule that we'll

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Speaker 3: dive into as well. The phone lines is where we go,

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Speaker 3: John moon Ding.

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Tone?

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Speaker 9: Otter Bop? What is the word thunder bird?

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Speaker 4: What do you know?

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Speaker 3: John?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 10: Tone? I have a question for you.

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Speaker 9: Did you happen to bet Willie about reading Deer Park

476
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Speaker 9: last night?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't, but I made sure Willy had

478
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Speaker 3: a note on his desk today letting Willy know that

479
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Speaker 3: the reading women took care of Deer Park the other

480
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Speaker 3: night and last night there reading Blue Devil Boys basketball

481
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Speaker 3: pro Graham took it to Deer Park as well.

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Speaker 9: That is correct, sir. You would have been cashing, not

483
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Speaker 9: chipping today. So yeah, that was a good win for

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Speaker 9: the boys. I will give a little credit. They got

485
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Speaker 9: a kid on their team. He's averaging like thirty six

486
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Speaker 9: a game. I'm not kidding you. Thirty six is named

487
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Speaker 9: Antonio White. He can play man. He's not getting a

488
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Speaker 9: whole bunch of looks. I talked to him a little

489
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Speaker 9: bit last night. Any college coaches that may or may

490
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Speaker 9: not be listening to give this kid a look. He

491
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Speaker 9: can flat out score.

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Speaker 3: So well, we know at least three we know Patino,

493
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Speaker 3: Wes Miller, and Travis Steele all listen on a daily basis,

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Speaker 3: so we.

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Speaker 9: Know that there we go get him in there? What

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Speaker 9: Chris Mack probably listens to.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, job, Yeah, you said Job might not be

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Speaker 3: open after tonight.

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Speaker 9: That may not be. You know, we ran a little

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Speaker 9: zone tone. That team played zone against us on Sunday?

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Speaker 9: How'd that go for them?

502
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Speaker 3: About a forty point loss?

503
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Speaker 9: Didn't go well? Botti threes were reigning in bud though.

504
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 9: You know, when you can shoot, you shoot.

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Speaker 10: That's what you did.

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Speaker 4: Shooter shoot makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 9: Lastly, you know, you know me, I'm a Big ten guy,

508
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Speaker 9: big ten fans, So I gotta give congratulations. Three straight,

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Speaker 9: two undefeated.

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Speaker 4: Two ten national champions Only two three straight?

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Speaker 11: What?

512
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Speaker 4: Two?

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Speaker 9: Two?

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Speaker 3: Well you mean to do?

515
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Speaker 4: The first one that you might be referring to was

516
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Speaker 4: unfortunately scarred by a massive cheating operation, so that one

517
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Speaker 4: doesn't count.

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Speaker 9: Oh so then there's so Michigan won the Big Ten,

519
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Speaker 9: went undefeated, and the national championship. I thought you were

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Speaker 9: referring to two, as being Ohio State didn't go undefeated

521
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Speaker 9: and Ohio State didn't win the Big Ten.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't care about don't I don't care about undefeated.

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Speaker 3: They've shifted things in Columbus. They don't care about those

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Speaker 3: things now. They don't care about the game. They care

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Speaker 3: about just winning it all.

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Speaker 4: It's true.

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Speaker 9: I got you, okay, I guess fair enough. It's funny

528
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Speaker 9: how those guy fans they'd be shifting stuff all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: you know why because they.

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Speaker 3: Seasty, sisty moving the gold post, John, That's what happens.

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Speaker 9: That's it. Well, hey, fellas, I just wanted to give

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Speaker 9: you a little call. See how everybody's been doing Blue

533
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Speaker 9: devils making moves and uh yeah, a big win for

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Speaker 9: the boys last night.

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Speaker 11: Proud of him.

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Speaker 9: Hope everybody's doing well for both of you, fellas, And

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Speaker 9: I will catch you guys on the flip side.

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Speaker 4: Baby may hie bye John.

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Speaker 3: It is It is true. What a guy I made

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Speaker 3: Willy aware of it today. Now, Willy's been dealing with

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Speaker 3: a lot. He had a little bit of a mishap

542
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Speaker 3: at the airport when he was flying back to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: He about landed himself in jail.

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Speaker 3: He about he about did so. I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: bring it down too heavy on him, but Willie, who

546
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Speaker 3: is not afraid to ditch things out when things go

547
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: his way, it needs to be brought back down to

548
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: earth a little bit as well when his Deer Park

549
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Speaker 3: Wildcats take a couple of losses and they have this

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Speaker 3: week at the hands of the Redding Blue Devils boys

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Speaker 3: and girls squads in basketball. So take that Willie. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure he's listening right now as well. What's up, Mike, Hey, Expella's.

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Speaker 10: Beautiful day today. Glad to hear the show as usual.

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Speaker 10: That guy that was just on John I don't remember him,

555
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 10: but he's a funny dude.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 10: I got a kick out of him.

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Speaker 3: Low energy. He's a low energy guy who calls in

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Speaker 3: every now and then.

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Speaker 4: He's got a lot of stuff going on upstairs.

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Speaker 10: He's very shy, isn't he very shy? Yep, yeah, I

562
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Speaker 10: could tell you, Hey, Mo, I love mo. Last night

563
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Speaker 10: he was going off on the Reds, bro off, off off.

564
00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 10: He was a borderline like ditching the It was good.

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Speaker 10: I loved his diatribe on his opinion on the Reds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the upcome, Ye, there was obviously the Terry Francona

567
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Speaker 3: comments about the offense and where things are going, and

568
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Speaker 3: then Chris pah Lake as well. We're going to talk

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Speaker 3: about some of what he had to say as the

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Speaker 3: show goes on today. But I just things to me

571
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Speaker 3: don't really quite add up when when you hear them

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Speaker 3: talk about the offense of this team, and I don't

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Speaker 3: know that there's an actual plan in place on how

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Speaker 3: to generate more runs, which I think becomes extremely worrisome.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Now, I mentioned to him, remember I told you about

577
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Speaker 10: the Reds were fourteenth with the four point four to

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Speaker 10: two runs super game, and I said, Tony and Austin

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Speaker 10: mentioned that they had the twenty seven run game and

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Speaker 10: a couple of twelve runs a fifteen run. But he said,

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Speaker 10: I really don't think in one hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 10: games it would have skewed it a whole bunch, maybe

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Speaker 10: a little bit, And that may be true. I didn't

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Speaker 10: do the math on that. I guess you could, but

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Speaker 10: it's too complicated for me anyway. Kalafari's team, Tony, I

586
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 10: don't think elder games, but whenever I see them, brother,

587
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 10: you don't want to mess with them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. They are about as battle tested as

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Speaker 3: well as any team in college basketball because of the

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Speaker 3: schedule they've played and the one they're going to continue

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Speaker 3: to play based on their conference.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, because Vanderbilt was one pretty study team and they

593
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Speaker 10: just beat them around like they were a height JV

594
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Speaker 10: team or something. It wasn't wasn't that good of a game.

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Speaker 10: So tonight, what's this spread at fifteen and a half?

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Speaker 3: I think it opened at sixteen and a half. I

597
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Speaker 3: think the last time I looked it was down to

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Speaker 3: thirteen and a half.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, how much money are you putting on

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Speaker 4: this game, Tony?

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Speaker 3: It ain't coming from me.

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Speaker 10: It's coming from me. It's coming from me. I have

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Speaker 10: googled it yesterday and and it said nine.

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Speaker 14: It was nine.

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Speaker 10: Now was ten, but that maybe that was a week

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Speaker 10: a week old or something. And then most right in

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Speaker 10: the down he goes, no, no, no, dude, it ain't ten.

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Speaker 10: It's like fifteen and a half. Yeah, you think they

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Speaker 10: can cover that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think they are. Or when you look

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Speaker 3: at the metrics, there are things that normally what you

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Speaker 3: see struggles with is teams that are able to generate

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Speaker 3: a lot of shots from the outside and make those shots.

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Speaker 4: You sees.

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Speaker 3: Two point defense for the most point has been good.

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Speaker 3: Arizona's a team they dominate, They dominate inside the arc.

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Speaker 3: They actually they score I think nineteen percent of their

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Speaker 3: points from the three point line. They score twenty one

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Speaker 3: percent of their points from the foul line, and the

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Speaker 3: rest comes inside the arc. So they're a team outside

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Speaker 3: of kind of the norm of what we see now.

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Speaker 3: They don't rely on the three point shot. Maybe that

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Speaker 3: bodes well for Cincinnati, but UC's gonna have to shoot

624
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Speaker 3: the ball in similar fashion to what they did on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: That hasn't been the case for much of the year.

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Speaker 3: But I just I enjoy the fact that we're able

627
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Speaker 3: to at least talk about them and is there a

628
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Speaker 3: path to go win tonight? Because a couple of weeks

629
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Speaker 3: ago it felt like this could be a thirty point

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Speaker 3: loss for U SE So it very well still could.

631
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Speaker 3: But I like how this team has responded to to

632
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Speaker 3: adversity early on in the year.

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Speaker 10: And it's funny because it's two of the veteran guys

634
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Speaker 10: that are really carrying the load, right yep, that's that's

635
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Speaker 10: kind of cool and real quick that I think, did

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Speaker 10: you mention that yesterday the Arizona's fifteen offensive rebounding sixth

637
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Speaker 10: and or seventh in defensive. That's impressive.

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Speaker 15: Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are a they're physical, they're aggressive, and they

640
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Speaker 3: have this unique balance of veteran presence but also some very,

641
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Speaker 3: very skilled and talented young guys. The Coepete, who is

642
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Speaker 3: a freshman, and I don't in the landscape of college

643
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Speaker 3: basketball this year, I know we're talking about a lot

644
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Speaker 3: of true freshmen that are playing high level basketball. Coopete

645
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: fourteen point seven points a game, just under six rebounds.

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Speaker 3: He is, from a freshman standpoint, as impressive as you'll find.

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Speaker 3: One of the other things that this Arizona team, I

648
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: think they stand out. They have seven guys that play

649
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: twenty minutes or more. They don't have a player that

650
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: averages double digit rebounds, but they have so many guys

651
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: that average nine or eight or seven. They're just insanely balanced.

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Speaker 3: They don't have a player that scores over fifteen a game,

653
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Speaker 3: but they've got five different players that average in double figures.

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Speaker 3: So they're balanced. They can beat in a lot of

655
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Speaker 3: different ways, and they certainly present a lot of matchup problems.

656
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Speaker 3: That's why that's why they're number one in the country.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they play ten guys in. Like the guy on

658
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Speaker 10: ESTM said, you can't even tell when they rotate guys

659
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Speaker 10: in and out. You can't even tell. Yep, that's scary. Okay, guys,

660
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Speaker 10: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you much.

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Speaker 10: Maybe we can pull it off.

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate that. Thank you. Let's do that. Let's finish

665
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Speaker 3: up our number one with a little Xavier and little

666
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Speaker 3: uc ahead of tonight's matchups against Arizona and Creighton. That

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Speaker 3: happens next. Phone lines will stay open five on three, seven,

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Speaker 3: four nine, fifteen thirty. Since he three to sixty on

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Speaker 3: the whole of the Bengals of ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 12: Wk Y, Cincinnati and iHeartRadio Station, guarantee He.

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Speaker 1: Pike Sincy three sixty is back now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back since e three sixty rolling along Hour number

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Speaker 3: one ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. A pair of

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Speaker 3: local big time matchups tonight on the hardwood. Xavier and

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Speaker 3: U see both in action tonight, both on the road tonight. Actually,

676
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Speaker 3: let me take that back one step. Austin three local

677
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Speaker 3: teams in action tonight because Mark Pope's Kentucky Wildcats welcome

678
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Speaker 3: in Sean Miller's Texas Longhorns tonight as well. So some

679
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: big games Texas. They lost to Texas A and M

680
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: in their last game before that, they'd actually pulled together

681
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: some good wins. Thirteenth ranked Alabama and number ten Vanderbilt

682
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: were both beat by Texas. So another good one that

683
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: should be happening at Ruperena tonight. And then, of course

684
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: what's happening in uh Creighton. That was the opener of

685
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Speaker 3: the Big East Slate for Xavier when they welcomed Creighton

686
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Speaker 3: to the Cintas Center. It went about as poorly as

687
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Speaker 3: a game could go when you talk about a conference opener.

688
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: Creighton was dominant. They scored forty nine points in each half.

689
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: They led at the half forty nine to twenty two.

690
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: They only expanded that lead in the second half. It

691
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: ended up ninety eight to fifty seven. They came in

692
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Speaker 3: to the Cintas Center and won the game by forty

693
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Speaker 3: one points. They did so by shooting sixty percent from

694
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Speaker 3: the field, forty eight percent from three, and out rebounding

695
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 3: the Xavier Musketeers forty two to twenty eight. I think

696
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: the rebounding stat comes into play here Austin because we

697
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: had Paul Fritchner on the show last week to talk

698
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Speaker 3: ahead of the Butler game. And Butler's big thing was

699
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: they just get after it on the glass, and Xavier

700
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: completely neutralized the rebounds from Butler. They didn't do that

701
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Speaker 3: against Creighton the first time around. They got dominated on

702
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Speaker 3: the glass. Creighton had thirty one assist in the game

703
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: to just sixteen for Xavier, eleven steals to five. They

704
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: got beat in every statistical category, they got dominated in

705
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Speaker 3: the paint. It was it was bad all around for

706
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Speaker 3: Richard Patino's Xavier Musketeers. It was a game in which

707
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: Trey Carroll only had seven points. Messina Moore did add fourteen,

708
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: Roddy Anderson twelve off the bench. But it was a

709
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Speaker 3: game you look to move past as soon as possible

710
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: if you're the Xavier Musketeers, and to their credit, they

711
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: did in their very next game. They went on the

712
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Speaker 3: road and they beat Georgetown. Then came the three game

713
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: losing streak, and then they followed it up with home

714
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: wins against Providence and Butler. They've gotten themselves to three

715
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Speaker 3: and four. They're kind of right in the middle of

716
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Speaker 3: the Big East standings right now, but an opportunity to

717
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Speaker 3: avenge a tough, tough loss earlier in the season. The

718
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Speaker 3: line tonight is seven and a half. So you look

719
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Speaker 3: at what Creighton did here by winning by forty one,

720
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Speaker 3: you would think, Austin that okay, that line would probably

721
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Speaker 3: be a little inflated. I think that line speaks to

722
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Speaker 3: how much improved and better Xavier is since that first

723
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Speaker 3: go round with Creighton, who is actually coming off their

724
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Speaker 3: own loss against Providence. So something to watch for on

725
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Speaker 3: the road Creighton. That game tonight happens at seven o'clock,

726
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Speaker 3: and then if you just want to parlay that right

727
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: over nine o'clock is the tip tonight in Tucson. Arizona

728
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: mentioned it with Mike a little bit there. Arizona is

729
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: so good and so dangerous in many different ways because

730
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: of how they beat you in so many different waves.

731
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Speaker 3: They have five players that score in double figures. They

732
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 3: have multiple players that average over seven rebounds a game.

733
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Speaker 3: They share the ball extremely well, they shoot a high

734
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Speaker 3: percentage from the field. It's a unanimous number one team

735
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Speaker 3: in the country. A couple of weeks ago, people were wondering, well,

736
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Speaker 3: is it Arizona at number one, or is it Michigan. Well,

737
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: Michigan has since lost, Arizona has not. Arizona's resume is

738
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Speaker 3: as impressive as you'll find. A win over number three

739
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Speaker 3: Florida to start the year, where the true freshman co

740
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: Opete had thirty points. It has a win against at

741
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Speaker 3: the time fifteenth ranked to UCLA, a win on the

742
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Speaker 3: road at number three Yukon, a win against number twenty Auburn,

743
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Speaker 3: a win against number twelve Alabama. They've answered every single

744
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Speaker 3: opportunity they've come across this year. They are going to

745
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Speaker 3: score a ton of points. I again, I don't know

746
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Speaker 3: what the path is for uc to come out and

747
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Speaker 3: get a win. You're gonna need a team that averages

748
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Speaker 3: ninety points a game to shoot well under that. You're

749
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Speaker 3: gonna need them to miss shots. You're gonna if you're

750
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Speaker 3: the Bearcats, find ways to turn this team over and

751
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: convert those points or those turnovers to points on the

752
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Speaker 3: other side, because that's the recipe that beat Iowa State.

753
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Speaker 3: How did you see get the win against number two

754
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: ranked Iowa State. They turned Iowa State over, and when

755
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 3: they did turn Iowa State over, they scored on those points.

756
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: Twenty points off turnovers for the Bearcats. They outscored Iowa

757
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: State and fast break points thirteen to two. So those

758
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: are the ways in which you upset a good team.

759
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: You gotta shoot the ball.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: You see shot at forty three percent from the field,

762
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Speaker 3: but they only shot at twenty nine percent from three.

763
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Speaker 3: So it's not like you know, they beat Iolas date

764
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Speaker 3: because they made fifty percent of their threes. They outrebounded

765
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Speaker 3: the Cyclones, which was massive, more assist, more steals, and

766
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Speaker 3: less turnovers. It's just kind of what it is. You

767
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: don't in college basketball when you play a good team

768
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: and you go on the road, if you turn the

769
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Speaker 3: ball over, if you don't share the ball, if you

770
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Speaker 3: don't shoot the ball, well, you're not going to win

771
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: the game. I know it's trying to make things a

772
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Speaker 3: little bit simpler, but that's really what it is. It

773
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: is a very good Arizona team right now. The prohibitive

774
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: favor to cut down the nets, and rightfully so, because

775
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: of the balance that they have. If there is a

776
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Speaker 3: chink in the armor, and I don't even think it's

777
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: necessarily a chink in the armor, it's just a style

778
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: of play Arizona does not get a lot of their

779
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Speaker 3: points from the three point line. They don't take a

780
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Speaker 3: ton of look, so it's not like they're just a

781
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: poor outside shooting team. Their idea of scoring is not

782
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: at the three point line. They shoot at about thirty

783
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Speaker 3: seven percent from three. On the other side, they're shooting

784
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Speaker 3: fifty two percent inside the ark. So they know what

785
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: they want to be and who they want to be,

786
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Speaker 3: and they go get it inside fifty two percent field

787
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: goal percentage. You see's two point defense will have to

788
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: be much better than that tonight. And when you do

789
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: allow a team to take some threes, they've got to

790
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: be contested. And that's one thing you see has done.

791
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 3: You see has played hard, you see has played tough,

792
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: and you see his defended. None of that can go away.

793
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: If that does go away, then it can get ugly

794
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: and you could be in for a long night against

795
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: the number one team in the country. And I think

796
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: you're also playing with a little bit of house money.

797
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: Look that the Eastern Michigan loss is brutal. It's absolutely brutal,

798
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: and you would need a win like that tonight to

799
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: you know, maybe negate that or equal out that. And

800
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: if you're talking about an NCAA tournament resume, which this

801
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: team is miles away from miles away. But you know, Mo,

802
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: Mo took to Twitter last night and talked about the

803
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: spread of this game, and I think he was spot

804
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: on because he talked about the frustration of the year,

805
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: but also talked about how irrationally he's looking forward to

806
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: the game tonight because of how this team has played.

807
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: And as Mo pointed out, a loss doesn't do a

808
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: ton of damage. If they play with the confidence of

809
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: last week and let it all hang out, maybe something

810
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: good can happen. But the one thing this team has done,

811
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: they have blocked out the noise and kept playing hard.

812
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: And it would have been easy. You know, what, was

813
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: it Austin a week ago we're talking about fans need

814
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: to be showing up wearing paper bags. That was a

815
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: week ago you were yeah, I'd say, don't stood, Yeah,

816
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: they shouldn't wear paper bags. That's how quick things can change.

817
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: It was a week ago. Now you're talking about coming

818
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: off back to back wins, one against the number two

819
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: ranked team in the country and now playing number one,

820
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: and you're still talking about a team that's played hard

821
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: and again tall task thirteen and a half point underdog.

822
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: I think that's what it is right now. I know

823
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 3: the numbers started around I believe sixteen and a half.

824
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: I've seen it down to thirteen and a half. Uh,

825
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: that's where it's out right now, thirteen and a half.

826
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Speaker 3: So it is, Uh, it's a lot to ask, but

827
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Speaker 3: I will be insufferable.

828
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Speaker 4: I don't know that I would say it's turned around

829
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Speaker 4: in a week. It's they You obviously feel good because

830
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 4: they won a game and they won two. Yeah, but

831
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 4: they they knocked off the number two team in the

832
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 4: country and they you know, had that moment where you

833
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: storm the court. But it it doesn't really change the

834
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: way you feel about the rest of the season. Well

835
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 4: if yeah, but say you said Saturday, you said over

836
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 4: the last week, it's changed everything. I don't know that

837
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: I agree with that. It's like Joe Burrow comes back.

838
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 4: They beat the Ravens on Thanksgiving, Like, yeah, that felt great.

839
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: Bengals probably still aren't going to make the playoffs, but

840
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 4: there are a lot talking about you see in a

841
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 4: positive way. That's fine, but that doesn't matter. Just talking

842
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: about it positively change anything.

843
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: When you beat and play the way they played on Saturday,

844
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: it changes a little bit.

845
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Speaker 4: The point I'm trying to make is don't let a

846
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 4: win now. Obviously, if they win tonight, then we have

847
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 4: a different conversation. That's cool. Then we have an entirely

848
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: different conversation if they win tonight. But let us not forget.

849
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: You know, a couple of wins. That's good, it should

850
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: be celebrated. It doesn't mean that it's going in the

851
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: right direction necessarily, doesn't mean that you should forget all

852
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 4: the other stuff that happened.

853
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: Like no, but if that win tonight, there will be

854
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: in the bubble conversation for the NCAAM.

855
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: What you're trying to say, that's not my point. My

856
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: point is what you said a minute ago, which is

857
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Speaker 4: over the last week, everything has turned around, and I

858
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 4: just don't know that that's maybe the mindset that they

859
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 4: should be in now that changes if they win tonight.

860
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 4: No one expects them to win tonight.

861
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: I think more the shift. And this was this something

862
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 3: I talked about with mo It to their credit, when

863
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: last week was happening, and there's this outside noise from

864
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: all over and you've got former players now talking, and

865
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 3: you've got incredibly loud booze that are taking place before

866
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Speaker 3: the game, and I credit the fans because the fans

867
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 3: stuck through it. They didn't wear the paper bags. They

868
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: have applauded the team, they stormed the court. Oh that's awesome.

869
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: But as as Moe mentioned, there's been a couple of

870
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: chances this year for the team to just kind of

871
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: say all right, we're done, let's kind of roll it in.

872
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: To their credit, they've not done that, and I think

873
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: that that should be recognized. And again, we could very

874
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: well come in here tomorrow and talk about Arizona winning

875
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: by thirty tonight. I mean that one. That's how good

876
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: Arizona is. We could be talking about a UC game

877
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: where they play tough and they just come up short.

878
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: But to MOS's point, a loss tonight doesn't change anything.

879
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 3: A win changes a lot, A loss doesn't change much. Yeah,

880
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: maybe they go play a little bit free, Maybe they

881
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: go play a little bit loose. In hell, maybe a

882
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: team that's won eighteen games in a row is set

883
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: to have a bad night.

884
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 16: Yeah.

885
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: I guess my point is, let's just not lose lose

886
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: sight of the fact that it is supposed to be

887
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: a lot bigger than one or two good wins in

888
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: the middle of the season.

889
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: I think that's a conversation we can have about the Bengals.

890
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's the point, Like the goal in the standard

891
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: is a lot more than Hey, that was a cool win.

892
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 4: Now you can enjoy it. I'm saying you shouldn't. And

893
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: Bearcat fans did, and they deserved it, and I'm glad

894
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: they did. But let's not forget that the grand scheme

895
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: of things and the big picture, the standards a lot

896
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 4: higher than what has been so far, and that that's

897
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: That's just the point I'm trying to make, is like

898
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: I don't know that it should be everything's flipped on

899
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 4: its head after the Iowa State win. Now it is

900
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 4: and should be if they win tonight. But as we've said,

901
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: that's right, it's a big if.

902
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: It's a big if. But butter d h Man, it

903
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: would be fun if man. We'll talk about some more

904
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: ifs when we talk about the UC football schedule, which

905
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: was released about an hour before we came on air today.

906
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: We'll do that the kickoff hour number two. We'll take

907
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: your phone calls and that we'll lead into your talkbacks

908
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: as well. All coming up next on the Home of

909
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

910
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since he three sixty about Cincinnati

911
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati, sponsored in part by Cincy Shirts. Cincy Shirts

912
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: all since he all Day. This is ESPN fifteen thirty,

913
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station.

914
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: I'll come back. It is our number two since e

915
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: three sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Phone lines

916
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: open five to one, three seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

917
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: We didn't mention this in the top of the show, Austin,

918
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: but have you seen the new renderings of the new

919
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: music venue coming to Cincinnati in twenty twenty seven.

920
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: No, the Farmer Music Center got another one.

921
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 3: Yes, So here's what I don't understand.

922
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 9: It is.

923
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: The Farmer Music Center. It's it's going up where Coney

924
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: Island used to be. Okay, Now what I don't understand.

925
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: It says that the Farmer Music Center is going to

926
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: be right off the river and adjacent to Riverbend Music Center,

927
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: set to open in the spring of twenty twenty seven. Now,

928
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: I saw this on WLWT today. The rendering. This thing

929
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: look phenomenal. I mean, this thing looks awesome. At one

930
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: point it was going to be called Riverbend two point zero,

931
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: but they announced the venue's name last year based on

932
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: a sixty million dollars gift from the Farmer Family Foundation.

933
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 3: Earlier today, new renderings were released to show what the

934
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 3: venue will look like both in the daytime and at

935
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: the nighttime. So my question is it's adjacent to Riverbend,

936
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: so both of those venues are going to be operating

937
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: the same capacity, Like Riverbend's not going away, right, I don't.

938
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: I don't think.

939
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 6: So.

940
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 3: Okay, this venue can hold twenty thousand folks. Okay, that's cool,

941
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: So I guess more music venues coming to Cincinnati.

942
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: We can't get an arena, but we'll just keep putting.

943
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 3: Here's why. It's going to generate more than one hundred

944
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: million in annual economic impact.

945
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 4: That's cool, that's great.

946
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm with you, though, Can we get it? Can we

947
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: get an arena?

948
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: I wish that it was that easy. It's not.

949
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 9: Now.

950
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: This this place looks awesome, Yes, rendering looks awesome, and

951
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: I've seen similar places like this in the past and unreal.

952
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 4: I just don't know if we need one.

953
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 3: I mean, we got the Brady Center. I guess, we

954
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: got GABP, We've got pay Corps. Yeah, we got River Bend. Yeah,

955
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: it's not like those places are an hour from each other.

956
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: It's a lot of them.

957
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a mega corp right across the river.

958
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a singer, if you're an artist,

959
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: if you're a group, a band, an act, there are

960
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: plenty of options.

961
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it really does give give you

962
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: the chance to, you know, whatever crowd fits, like the

963
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 4: Brady Music Center and that outdoor Sure, that's more of

964
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 4: a smaller intimate crowd. You obviously have the giant stadiums.

965
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 4: This is a happy medium at twenty River Bend. How

966
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 4: much has River been I don't know a lot, but

967
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 4: like I don't know for me personally, in my interests,

968
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: I would like a newer.

969
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: River Bend is twenty thousand.

970
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 4: Well, okay, so we really don't need it though.

971
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 3: So pretty much the same the same size arena looks

972
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: cool though, yep, it does. It looks cool. Gratulations, let's

973
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: get it.

974
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: Let's do you also have TQL, which held a concert

975
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: or was supposed to hold a concert this year. I

976
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 4: think he got rained out.

977
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a lot going on here. There's a

978
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 3: lot of things locally. Let's just on top of that

979
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: I wish we had arena. There's a football schedule that's out.

980
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: The Big Twelve held their eleven AM today. They released

981
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 3: their football schedule. They also release an announcement that the

982
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: Big Twelve title game will move from December fifth on

983
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: that Saturday, to December fourth, so they'll have the Friday

984
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 3: night game. Will the Big Twelve.

985
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 4: That'll be in Dallas.

986
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: Still still in Arlington, so that will stay the same.

987
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: But with it now you're talking about having the you

988
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: knew the opponents. Here's what the actual schedule is for

989
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bearcats. They open the season on September fifth,

990
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: a home game against Bill O'Brien's Boston College squad. That comes.

991
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 4: Isn't that the Windless Boston College Eagles.

992
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 3: Yep, okay, the windless Eagles of Boston. No pressure, no

993
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: pressure at all. Western Carolina follows that, and didn't know

994
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: that was a school. They come to Nippert Stadium after that,

995
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 3: Miami one final time. The Battle for the Victory Bell.

996
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: The Battle for the Victory Bell is at pay Corpse

997
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: Stadium this year.

998
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 4: Now, I've seen in the last couple of days the

999
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: RedHawks have secured transfers, two of them in Ohio State.

1000
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: I saw that a wide receiver and an offensive linements

1001
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 4: all that, so are folks over at the Red Brick Legacy.

1002
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 4: It moves soon making some moves.

1003
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: After that, the Bearcats welcome in their first Big Twelve opponent,

1004
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 3: the Kansas State Wildcats. After that a trip to Tucson

1005
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: to take on the Arizona Wildcats. And then that's the

1006
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: first bye week for the bear so one road game

1007
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: yep in the first month plus yep. Interesting correct, So

1008
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: Boston College, Western Carolina, Kansas State at home, Miami of

1009
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: Ohio at pay Corps, Arizona on the road that takes

1010
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: you up.

1011
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 4: Tenth is the bye.

1012
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 3: October tenth is the buy out of the bye. Take

1013
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: me home Country Roads. Morgantown, West Virginia will be the

1014
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: site for the Bearcats' second consecutive road trip in the

1015
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: Big twelve, and then after that Austin. You want storylines,

1016
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: how about Brendan sowersby returning to Nippert Stadium homecoming October

1017
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,479
Speaker 3: twenty fourth.

1018
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: So they'll also go basically a month between games at

1019
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 4: Nippert yep, from September twenty sixth to that homecoming game

1020
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 4: caer October the twenty fourth, that better be a nip

1021
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: at night.

1022
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: It has to be. It has to be. It is

1023
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: the reigning Big twelve champions, and also just happens to

1024
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: now be the home of your former quarterback. Texas Tech

1025
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: now Sowersby. They come in on the twenty fourth, and

1026
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 3: then a team that is projected to be very competitive.

1027
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 3: They get their quarterback back now a new coach. But

1028
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: right after Texas Tech Halloween Utah in town. So the

1029
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: utah Utes now hold on.

1030
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this though. Let's say Bearcats start

1031
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 4: five to zero. Okay, Okay, let's just say it happens.

1032
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 4: Let's say they're ranked I don't know, twenty third in

1033
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 4: the country. Texas Tech comes to town.

1034
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 3: Oh, game day.

1035
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 4: Nip at night would seemingly be out of the question

1036
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 4: because it could be a big neton kickoff. Oh So

1037
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: would you rather, oh, have the Bearcats be unranked at

1038
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 4: that point and Texas Tech maybe not the team that

1039
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: some thought they'd be. Maybe they're s seventeenth in the country,

1040
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 4: so that you could maybe get a night game instead

1041
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: of the national audience for a big noon kickoff game.

1042
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: Which would you rather have?

1043
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: I'd still take big noon because that would mean that

1044
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: that you sees in a conversation to do some good

1045
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: things now after the Utah game, which is going to

1046
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 3: be a dog fight in itself, then comes the issue

1047
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 3: because November has not been fair or fun or kind

1048
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 3: to Scott Soaderfield, and November this year will not be

1049
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: easy as well. A road trip to Houston, who beat

1050
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: LSU in a bowl game this year, Houston a top

1051
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: twenty five team from last year. On the road. After that,

1052
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: on the road at Iowa State. Now again new coach

1053
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 3: at Iowa State. We'll see what kind of team that brings.

1054
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: After that, coach Prime Deion Sanders bring to Colorado Buffaloes

1055
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: into town on the November twenty first, and then the

1056
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: Bearcats finished the year Austin a couple of days after

1057
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving on the road in Provo at BYU. So you

1058
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: got Boston College, Western Carolina, Miami, Kansas State, Arizona, West, Virginia,

1059
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, Utah, Houston, Iowa State, Colorado, and BYU. That

1060
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: is your twenty twenty six Cincinnati Bengal Bearcats football schedule. Now,

1061
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 3: we asked Keegan last week about this. I think seven

1062
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: is the starting point. You got a coach now who

1063
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: has struggled historically in the month of November. You've got

1064
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: a very daunting November schedule. You should be three and

1065
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: oh in the non conference. You said Boston College won

1066
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: how many games last year?

1067
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 6: Zero?

1068
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: Okay, you should be three and oh. I think Kansas State,

1069
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: West Virginia, Houston, and Colorado on paper, are all winnable.

1070
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: You have two opponents with brand new coaches in Iowa

1071
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 3: State and Utah. Arizona's good, it's a tough team. I

1072
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: don't know how good they are. I think you have

1073
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: to start the conversation at eight eight wins is where

1074
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: I start. And you know when they did. They did

1075
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: the schedule release at Big twelve or on ESPN you today,

1076
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: and they mentioned in that schedule release that if the

1077
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: Bearcats are serious or they're contending for anything, then you're

1078
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: talking about a team going into the bye week at

1079
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: five and oh four and one of the worst. But

1080
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: five and oh should be attainable with how the schedule

1081
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: sets up, the home games and where this team's at. Again,

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00:58:53,440 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: they don't leave Cincinnati until October third, so between between

1083
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 3: the start of the year September fifth and September October

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00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: twenty fourth, they will leave twice for road games at

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00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: Arizona and West Virginia. I know we give Ohio State

1086
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: and I poke fun at the schedule, but you got

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00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: to win your home games, and you gotta win your

1088
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: home games early in the season to give yourself a

1089
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: chance late. That's one thing that Scott Soudderfield has done.

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00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: Two years ago, this team was five and two, fell apart.

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00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 3: Last year this team was seven and one, collapsed down

1092
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 3: the stretch, five losses to end each season. The start

1093
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 3: of the year has not been the issue. It's been

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00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: maintaining and finishing the job. So again, if you're if

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00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: you're talking about where to start, to me, it feels

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Speaker 3: like you start and stop at eight wins. Anything less

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00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: than seven I think is a disaster. Like my my

1098
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 3: bar is not a Bowl game for UC That was

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Speaker 3: the threshold for a lot of people going into this

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: previous year. So if you're building on things the way

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: that you're thinking of the trajectory of this team, then

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Speaker 3: you're not just settling for a bowl game. You're not

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01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: settling to match last year's win total. You have to

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Speaker 3: surpass it. And I genuinely do think that this schedule

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01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 3: lends itself the ability to do that. You can let

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Speaker 3: us know what you think five to one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, or you could leave us a talk back

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Speaker 3: today as well. Phone lines will be open for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the show. Talkbacks come up in just a

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Speaker 3: full few minutes. Anything else from the sports war we

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Speaker 3: haven't got to since before talkbacks, Austin.

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Speaker 4: Uh, we were going to talk about the Reds.

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01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna get We'll get to the Reds and

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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: our three. The Buffalo Bills press conference today was a

1115
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: weird thing. Yeah, that was what's their owner doing? We

1116
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: could spend some time on if you want to know

1117
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: why owners will maybe not talk to the media very often.

1118
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 3: Today was an example of that. Yeah, well, we'll spend

1119
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: some time on that after we get to to today's talkbacks.

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Speaker 3: Those come up after this break on the home of

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 17: And record your message for Austin and tone.

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01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 4: Please keep it clean and don't be mean at.

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01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 12: A sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drip.

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Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 17: It's our favorite part of SINCY three sixty. So Austin, buddy,

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01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 17: play those talkbacks on your screen. And please try not

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 17: to sabotage all.

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Speaker 3: Right, here we go. It is the Wednesday edition of

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: Talkbacks on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 18: These talkbacks can be funny. These talkbacks can be dumb.

1132
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 18: Carl Lines at the Lone Shooting too. I once knew

1133
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 18: a girl. Her name was Julie Crumb.

1134
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 14: She said she had a crush Sean ken Brew, Oh broos.

1135
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 3: Man as as an avid listener that I know Ken

1136
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: Brew is the.

1137
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: Little acappella brew at.

1138
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: The and a music fan that we know ken By,

1139
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 3: I would imagine that he was very happy to hear that.

1140
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 4: I get text from Ken frequently during the show. I

1141
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 4: haven't heard from him lately. Ken Ken. If you're listening, Ken,

1142
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 4: you have our number. Also, feel free to call the

1143
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 4: hotline whenever you want.

1144
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 8: Timple ball boys are back and some one of the

1145
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 8: top players in the world, including Scottie Shepards haircut and

1146
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 8: golf game.

1147
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 9: Um, all about that big fade?

1148
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 16: Wow?

1149
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 8: Why because for the last seven winners went off at

1150
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 8: between one hundred and fifty to five hundred to one

1151
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 8: before the tournament started.

1152
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 6: Wow.

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01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 8: So if you're fading, Scottie, who do we like? After

1154
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 8: the commercial breaks, stick around, said two dimple ball boy bets.

1155
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Speaker 3: Coming right out. Dimple ball boys, are you gonna picky

1156
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 3: you like I'm writing these down? I'm actually writing these

1157
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: who won in Hawaii. See now that's the thing. If

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01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: you're gonna be a dimple ball boy, you better you

1159
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: better at least come with receipts of your bets from

1160
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: last week.

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Speaker 6: Day two.

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Speaker 19: We're back, and I like Danny, Danny, Oh, Danny, man,

1163
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 19: he got the back. Danny McCarthy's going off at ninety

1164
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 19: to one. That's the same odds as Warner will that

1165
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 19: ball across two rolette tables. But ladies and gentlemen, he's

1166
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 19: not rolling over that ball this week.

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Speaker 8: He's rolling a dimple ball and it's going four and

1168
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 8: a half inches under earth all day long.

1169
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Speaker 9: And if you want us top player, look.

1170
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Speaker 8: To the technician lud big Oberg like Daniel day Lewis

1171
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Speaker 8: you look from dinner on Sunday.

1172
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Speaker 4: In there we'll be.

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01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: Danny McCarthy and Ludwick.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, what's the song?

1175
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Speaker 14: Say?

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01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 20: There's two?

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Speaker 10: They were story ones a lie ones are true.

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Speaker 13: Some of your fans got to quit lying to yourself

1179
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 13: more so, And the bill's mafia saying the game was

1180
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 13: decided by the last play there. It wasn't an iron t,

1181
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 13: it was in catch. Guess you don't understand the rules.

1182
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 13: I mean, come on, did it come down to that.

1183
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 13: Your boy had multiple turnovers, he had fumbles, he had

1184
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 13: iron t missing wide up, dude for game winning touchdowns.

1185
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 13: It's never just one thing, it's multiple things.

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Speaker 3: Hey, let them know Kevin, by the way, because we

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01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 3: we didn't talk much about that all as much as

1188
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: the fumbles and the turnovers. Josh Allen missing Dawson knocks

1189
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Speaker 3: on that last drive was incredible. I mean that you're

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01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: right back in it.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: You probably still have a head coach.

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Speaker 4: You think of him doing that, You think of the

1194
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 4: miss to Shakir against Philadelphia at the end of the sea. Yeah, man,

1195
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 4: not the best for Josh Allen, and they all hit

1196
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: him post game.

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Speaker 10: Yep.

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Speaker 13: Look, I'm not saying referees don't miss calls, because they do.

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Speaker 10: Some are egregious and some are under the radar.

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Speaker 13: But in short, don't put the game in the hands

1201
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Speaker 13: of referees.

1202
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Speaker 3: Go out there and stand, preach, preach.

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Speaker 13: And I guess I'm on the subject because I'm thinking

1204
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 13: about how Peyton Manning used to get ricked over to

1205
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 13: calls back in the day before he won his first

1206
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 13: Super Bowl, saying he couldn't get it done in the

1207
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 13: playoff in his playoff record, And seems like that's what

1208
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 13: Josh Allens is. He's just Pet Manning without the Super Bowls.

1209
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Speaker 21: Maybe I'm wrong.

1210
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Speaker 13: I don't know. Rant over.

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Speaker 3: I think Josh Allen one thing to do. Go get

1212
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 3: it and come back with it next year.

1213
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Speaker 4: I saw somebody say over the weekend that I ride

1214
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 4: around with it. I don't got to go get it. Ooh,

1215
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of toughol Josh Allen eight

1216
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 4: and seven, who said that in his postseason career one

1217
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 4: in five on the road in the postseason.

1218
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 12: Oh hello, this is former president and run rank them,

1219
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 12: ride them. Today's subject cruel athlete nicknames. No arm Garcia

1220
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 12: pop up to turn the ball over?

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 4: Uh huh and Tony Pick. Oh that's that's great. I'm

1222
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 4: just tell you what we go. Number one, I'm saying

1223
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 4: to a turn the ball over. Yeah. Number two I'm

1224
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 4: saying Tony pick. And number three, no arm Garcia pop up.

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01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 3: I'll switch myself and no more. No arm Garcia pop up.

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Speaker 16: Austin, I got a question for you.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy.

1228
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Speaker 16: So when I play ESPN fifteen thirty on my Alexa

1229
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 16: at home, it doesn't matter which Alexa it strokes out

1230
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 16: about after about twenty seconds, I can play seven hundred

1231
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 16: fine on it. But for some reason, every every Alexa

1232
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 16: device when I start playing it strokes out.

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Speaker 3: Really Austin it department.

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Speaker 4: I will look into that. I didn't know that was

1235
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 4: an issue, because I have we have an Alexa here

1236
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 4: at the studio that it's like out in our lobby

1237
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 4: that whenever I walk by it and it's not playing

1238
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, I'd tell it to play fifteen thirty, just

1239
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 4: because there's a lot of people here who don't know

1240
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 4: about our show. So I'm gonna I'm gonna look into that.

1241
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 4: I didn't know that was a thing. It works fine

1242
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 4: for me here at least.

1243
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 22: Tony Audie, you've probably talked about this already, but my apologies,

1244
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 22: but the draft is coming up. What is the number

1245
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 22: one position that the Bengals should we be ticking for

1246
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 22: in April?

1247
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: If you listen to Duke Tobin, it's pass rusher. If

1248
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 3: you listen to me, it's safety. And if you listen

1249
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Speaker 3: to Austin.

1250
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 4: It's right now for me, it's safety. Okay, Okay, we

1251
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 4: have a bit of breaking news from the baseball world. Oh,

1252
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 4: let me make sure this is real.

1253
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 3: If you mean, just let me tell you what if

1254
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 3: this is Austin Hayes to the Red, don't even make

1255
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 3: don't even hit a sounder?

1256
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 4: Is real, Tony, there's a big bopper that's just signed

1257
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: a big deal. Okay. Jeff Passing of ESPN is reporting

1258
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 4: that left handed slugger Cody Bellinger and the New York

1259
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 4: Yankees are in agreement on a five year, one hundred

1260
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 4: and sixty two point five million dollar contract.

1261
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 21: Man.

1262
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 4: There are opt outs after the second and third seasons.

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01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 4: There is a no trade clause. Cody Bellinger and the

1264
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 4: Yankees at one hundred and sixty two to five.

1265
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: You said one hundred and sixty two to five.

1266
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 4: Yes, that's about a million per game.

1267
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 3: Twenty million dollars signing bonus. Unbelievable.

1268
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 4: So, as we mentioned earlier, the potential trickle down effects

1269
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 4: of Cody Bellinger could be Austin Hayes. So does this

1270
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 4: Austin Hayes goes to Saint Louis. Does it mean that

1271
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 4: Austin Hayes goes to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: I don't know we're going to talk about this in

1273
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 3: hour three, but I'll have a hard time rallying the

1274
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 3: troops if the big splash in the off season is

1275
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: Austin Hayes. Again, I agree.

1276
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 4: I just got a confirmation of a report about the

1277
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 4: Alexa thing from someone else, my uncle in South Carolina,

1278
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 4: So the same thing's happening to him.

1279
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: That's Uncle Jeff, Uncle Jeff Man. I'm sorry about that.

1280
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to look into this. This is making

1281
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 4: me very angry, troubling, understandably frustrating for listeners. I won't

1282
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 4: stand for that. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

1283
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, Marcus from the groove, Marcus not trying to

1284
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 10: get too sided it.

1285
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 13: Every day we start getting a little bit closer. Yesterday

1286
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 13: I was out in the bout and the wind blew,

1287
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:04,879
Speaker 13: and I thought.

1288
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 10: I heard a little bit of Cincinnati.

1289
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 11: Ohio in the distance.

1290
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 3: Connie Smith.

1291
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Speaker 11: I think Connie Smith.

1292
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 13: Maybe falling out.

1293
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: Now, you're dirty doll.

1294
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 7: We are sixty four Wan Francisco days away from opening day.

1295
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 4: Manan Francis, you know we're also a frans.

1296
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 3: Kentucky Xavier U. S. Moneyline Parlay to Night at about

1297
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Speaker 3: forty three, Marcus is.

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Speaker 4: All over it tell you what pods getting heavy for me?

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Speaker 3: Doug gottliebat not from the tyreq dot com Fox Sports Studios.

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01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 23: Yes, I was fired.

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01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:41,839
Speaker 3: It's your coaching office.

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01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 23: Last month they said I can hold about two jobs

1303
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 23: down coaching basketball and doing radio. So, Tony, do you

1304
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 23: have any pointers on getting back into radio. I know

1305
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 23: you were recently let go and brought back.

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01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 10: So let me know.

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: As long as you have your income coming in a

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01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: different way, I just I'd stick to what you're doing.

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 3: Thank you done.

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01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 23: By the way, the show that took the place of

1311
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 23: the Doug Gottley Show is called Stu Gotten Friends. He's got.

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01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 4: You not know who studs is.

1313
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: Uh, he has to know. That's gotta be a that's

1314
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 3: gotta be a bit hi guys.

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01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 24: Good show as usual. Hey, I just got to come

1316
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 24: in on something that you said when you're talking about

1317
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 24: you know, coaches and stuff and being a good guy

1318
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 24: or a good coach or whatever, and Tony was sticking

1319
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 24: up for Brian Kelly kind of. I know, in its

1320
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 24: hard as parts you can't stand the guy.

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 10: Tony.

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 24: You made yourself a better quarterback, not Brian Kelly. You

1323
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 24: did it, okay, So yeah, and I don't know why

1324
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 24: you can't be a good coach and a nice guy

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01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 24: on in one McVeigh.

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01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: Mmmm.

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01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 4: Well and now I get a I'm getting flooded with

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 4: messages now this is apparently an issue on Alexa. Oh boy,

1329
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 4: all right, guys, okay, I know, all right, no three people.

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01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: No sending Austin your complaints. It's the only way something's

1331
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 3: gonna get done.

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01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe I'll start screenshotting him. I don't even know

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01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 4: who to talk to, but I'll talk to him.

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,879
Speaker 25: It's Leroy down here in Founmouth. Oh, I'm being sickered

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 25: in the doll.

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01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 7: You know.

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 25: We had to win against Iowa State. I had that feeling.

1338
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 25: I thought I had that feeling again this morning about Arizona.

1339
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 25: But it turns out it's just from my wife's chili,

1340
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 25: but not before, so that feeling has passed.

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Speaker 3: But I do hope the boys can get it done. Yeah,

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01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: don't give see Okay.

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 7: Thanks y Roy to hear you're back to Tony Austin's

1344
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 7: shouting from Mount Healthy here. I am still in the

1345
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 7: opinion that Zach Taylor's job is make or break this year.

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01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 7: I think owners sees it that way, given the landscape

1347
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 7: of the ABC and the coaches that will be new.

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Speaker 7: But my question for you is, given our roster, given

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01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 7: cap space, given everything, is it possible in one off season,

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01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 7: between the draft and free agency to fix the defense

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01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 7: in such a way that we can go to the

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Speaker 7: super Bowl?

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Speaker 9: Because if it's not, why are we running it back

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01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 9: with Zach?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think at the core of everything that's fair.

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Speaker 3: If if you don't believe it can be turned around

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01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 3: and you're competing for the Super Bowl next year, then

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: why why are you doing it? But I I view

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01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 3: it the other I view them as thinking that they

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01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: can turn it around, and if they don't turn it around,

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01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: as we said last week, then I think Zach Taylor's going.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing. I don't know that I believe that

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01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 4: it can go from where it is now to a

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 4: Super Bowl defense in one off season, but I think

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01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 4: they think it can, and so if they think it can,

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01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 4: that's why this is happening. Yeah, but again, it goes

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01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 4: back to prove it.

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Speaker 26: So guys Bick, Cahune and Kentucky still devastated over.

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01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 12: That lost Monday night. I've coached a lot of games.

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Speaker 26: I've played in a lot of games, had a lot

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01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 26: of defeats, never had one, Never as a player and coach,

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01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 26: had a worse defeat than again as a fan, And

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01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 26: that one just was demoralizing Monday night, Miami losing India.

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Speaker 26: And with that said, I'm ready for the Bengals and

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01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 26: the reds Now. I'm still high on this jj Bloday signing.

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 26: I think this guy's going to be an All Star

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01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 26: coming into the year. And the Bengals got to do

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 26: anything they can to get Caleb downs. Have to get downs.

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Speaker 3: The jj Bloday conversation's happening now we're in Now, I'm ready.

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Speaker 27: Arizona is Arizona.

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 2: That man flyah blah, y'all can hit them back of

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: you wrapping.

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01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 27: The city out here in Sonny tot Zona. What up, Tony,

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 27: What up? Body man? Tonight's the night we get that

1385
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 27: one point blowout. My Bearcasts will get the win. Stay

1386
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 27: out here talking about how bad he gonna beat the

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 27: Bearcats by thirty man whatever were beating them in Asu.

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 4: I'm going for the He's on the sweet this season.

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01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 27: Xavier, you gotta get your new fans tonight, man, because

1390
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 27: Craig beat the brakes off you guys the last time

1391
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 27: I seeing it, And you gotta give Miami some love.

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01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 27: They carrying a flag for the city.

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 4: Twenty and oh wow, m hop if you're going to

1394
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 4: the game there, Ronnie Rock, that's the question.

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01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 28: Newest Cincinnati.

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01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 3: Can Ronnie not be at the game tonight?

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01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 28: Newest Cincinnati Reds nicknames a left handed pitcher the bb

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 28: gun brock Burke, a right handed pitcher, Pierce the Lobe Johnson,

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01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 28: another left handed pitcher, Caleb.

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01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 12: The Scotsman.

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01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 4: Feature long feed.

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01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:50,799
Speaker 3: It, and an outfielder Hey hey, hey, hey, hey.

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01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: Oh goodness, that was.

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 27: You spot on correct about you see football. I saw

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 27: that schedule myself. I even instantly said five and oh

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01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 27: four to one at worst, And uh, I'm not selling

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01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 27: it for no. Six to seven wins. It needs to

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01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 27: be eight or higher. You know, we don't want that.

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01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 27: Nobody cares dot com Bow get us to the Big

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01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 27: twelve championship game at least and after that we can

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 27: talk then. But uh, this is the year for Cosette

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01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 27: to get it right this season. I'm definitely watching it.

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01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 8: Uh.

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 27: I got that seat on warm already for Cosette.

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01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 21: Yeah, I really wish Sowresby was going to be coming

1417
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 21: a little bit later in the year, because that would

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 21: have made for an automatic w for the Bearcats. But

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01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 21: now we'll have to wait and see.

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01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: Hey, Kennie, how you doing.

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01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 6: Hey, John Michael, just let you know this phone call

1422
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 6: is sponsored BYT one eight hundred pro Flowers, So you

1423
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 6: guys better give.

1424
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 14: Me mine for getting it right on the Hall of Fame.

1425
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 4: Babe, that's right. John Michael was a big on Jones fan.

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 3: This shot like bab Ruth.

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 4: All right, there are probably a lot of similarities between

1428
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 4: John Michael and Babe Ruth.

1429
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 3: Flowers about it, Flowers to you, John Michael, Yes, Flowers

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01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 3: to you.

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01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 20: Hey, what's going on?

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01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 4: Guys?

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 20: Maybe it's just me. I really think we make too

1434
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 20: big of a deal about a thousand yards in NFL. Now,

1435
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 20: I mean, it's fifty eight yards a game. If someone's

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01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 20: a great player.

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 8: He said, easily get that.

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01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 20: If he's a good player, he said, almost get that.

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01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 20: I don't know, I feel like the new standard should

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01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 20: be fifteen hundred and not a thousand.

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01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think we feel that way. I

1442
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 4: think it is overblown for running backs.

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01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 3: Let me ask you.

1444
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 4: Let me, I will say this, the new kickoff has

1445
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 4: brought yardage numbers down. Yeah, it's one of the unintended

1446
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 4: consequences and one of the reasons I didn't like it

1447
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 4: at the beginning. I mean, you start at thirty five

1448
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 4: or forty every single time.

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask Let me ask someone this real quick,

1450
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: because I saw this with Miles Garrett getting the record

1451
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: from straight hand. Is there something to be said about

1452
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 3: guys that have done it in a sixteen game season,

1453
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 3: verse a seventeen or potentially even an eighteen down down

1454
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: the road. How do you view that when it comes

1455
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: to all time records in the NFL.

1456
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 4: I don't know that I care that much. I mean,

1457
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 4: there's so much advanced data now, like Miles Garrett did

1458
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 4: it in so many fewer pass rushing snaps than Michael

1459
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 4: Strahan did because the Browns were losing almost every game

1460
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 4: and teams are running the ball, so like for one

1461
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 4: sack or for one number more, maybe you can split

1462
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 4: hairs a little bit. But I don't know that I

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01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 4: care that much. Do you about your thoughts?

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Like I think it would probably

1465
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: have to depend on the record, and like you said it,

1466
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 3: like snap count to me is a big one because

1467
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 3: if teams are running and you're not getting those opportunities,

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01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 3: then you it doesn't matter. But like I see, I

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01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 3: think like passing yardage and staff like that could be

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01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: interesting because it's a much more pass hapy league and

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01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 3: you're talking about thirty five, you know, forty more attempts

1472
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 3: per game than what guys in the past have done

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01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 3: it at.

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01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 4: So sure, I do.

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01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting how that'll be viewed in the future.

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01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 4: There are also many different eras you know. Right now

1477
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 4: it's aired out and we're seeing a bit of a

1478
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 4: renaissance running back. But sure, from the nineties through the

1479
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 4: mid two thousands, it was you're running the ball thirty

1480
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 4: times a game. It's just not that game anymore.

1481
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 29: Double dip deal with And I got a Ken Bruce story. Oh,

1482
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 29: my wife and I back in the nineties had season

1483
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 29: tickets to the Cyclones and we got to know everybody

1484
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 29: in our row, one of them being a kid by

1485
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 29: the name of Kaiowie and his twelve year birthday ate

1486
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 29: way too much to concession stand, wasn't feeling well, got up,

1487
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 29: went to the end of the row and threw up all.

1488
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 4: Over Ken Bruce shoes, Oh kind of funny.

1489
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: Now that surprises me.

1490
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna need to get that story corroborated by Bruce.

1491
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 3: That surprises me because I feel like Bruce the type

1492
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 3: of guy that would have his own suite, not at

1493
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 3: the Clones. I wouldn't see him. He's not down there

1494
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 3: on that by the ice.

1495
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 4: He probably hasn't gone to a Clones game since he

1496
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 4: got vomited on. Yeah, have you ever thrown up on someone?

1497
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 12: No?

1498
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: I have, No, I've gotten thrown up on recently. I

1499
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 3: actually had my kid.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, actually had a pretty similar situation

1501
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 4: of that what he's describing.

1502
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 3: I was the twelve year old. Now if that were me,

1503
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 3: I would be a mess because I I don't do

1504
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 3: well with vomit. The gag reflex is bad.

1505
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, if anything, what's going on. I think

1506
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 4: he's trying to tell us about Alexa, but he's got

1507
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 4: a bad mic.

1508
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 3: Okay that Alexa. Now keep him coming, make im gonna.

1509
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start the process of reporting this in this

1510
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 4: commercial break.

1511
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 3: Who do you even report it to?

1512
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 4: That's my question. I'm gonna go first of all to

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01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 4: my direct boss. Who's that Tony Bender. Okay, and then

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go from there. Let's see what he tells

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Speaker 4: me to do. Okay, I'm staying away from that. I

1516
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 4: go up to the line quite a bit. I'm staying

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01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 4: away from them.

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Speaker 3: Is that it?

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01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,480
Speaker 4: Yes, We're done mercifully.

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01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 3: By the way, I got a uh, I got a

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01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 3: text from the Dimple ball Boys.

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01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think you know those guys.

1523
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 4: He based off their name.

1524
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 3: He made nothing to do with bud Man. Ain't bud Man.

1525
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 3: I'm enough.

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01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna know. I'm gonna tell you what. I won't say.

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01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 3: It's smart enough. He just can't do it with a

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 3: you can't do it with a flip phone.

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01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 4: I won't say it on the air, but their name

1530
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 4: on their on the iHeart thing is something to do

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01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 4: with Bud Man. I heard this. Uh.

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01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 3: Griffin and Harry harr were both in the top five.

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01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 3: They fell off so had a good opportunity, but went

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01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: oh and three.

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01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 4: So the Dimple Boys are also the IF Boys, but.

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 3: Also remembered that those were all between twenty to one

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01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 3: and fifty to one bets. So that sounds like an

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 3: it that sounds like the IF Man.

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01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 4: All I care about is making money? Are you doing

1540
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 4: it or not? The IF Dimple boys, ooh the IDD

1541
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 4: it sounds like a disease.

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01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 3: Take a break.

1543
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 4: Sorry, I can't work tomorrow. Diagnosed with IDD.

1544
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 3: Might do one segment, might do two, we turn back segment.

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01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 3: We don't know yet, but we are going to figure

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01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 3: out this Alexa works Next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 2: Now on ESPN fifteen thirty, Welcome back.

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01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 3: Since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1550
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 3: We've got some reds to get to in our number three.

1551
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 3: I'd like to assure everyone the Alexa issue going on.

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01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 3: Austin's been on and over the breaks, he's been out

1553
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 3: there talking to the Alexa and the lobby. He saw

1554
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 3: himself hurt himself the Alexa crash out. Could the people

1555
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 3: responsible for getting these things changed, and hopefully that's now

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01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 3: happening now.

1557
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 4: Historically on this show, we've peeled back the onion. We've

1558
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 4: told people about you know what all's going on in

1559
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 4: our world, and last week you know about that big

1560
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 4: Verizon outage that affected us with Paul Fritchner. I think

1561
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 4: that somehow affected some of our servers as well. Because

1562
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 4: our podcasting software that we use has been down for

1563
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 4: over a week. Oh and I have been complaining mercilessly

1564
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,839
Speaker 4: about this because it's really difficult for me to podcast

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 4: the show in a way. There's a lot of stuff

1566
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 4: to it, and so I have to manually do everything

1567
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 4: all the time, and it's still not working. So I

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01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 4: wonder if these two things are in some way, shape

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 4: or form connected.

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01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: It's a good point.

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01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 4: Do you ever see that show Manifest?

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01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 8: Have you?

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 4: Yes, it's all connected.

1575
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 3: It feels like everything's connected.

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01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 4: That's the whole. Now. I couldn't make it through that

1577
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 4: show because it felt like they were dragging it on.

1578
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 4: But that's what they said repeatedly. It's all connected. It's

1579
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 4: all connected.

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01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 3: What it feels like, this is all connected? Yeah, you're right.

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01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 3: Let me tell you who's not connected, anyone in Buffalo's

1582
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 3: ownership group right now? What is going on in Buffalo?

1583
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 3: And in your best can you describe this in simple

1584
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: terms for people?

1585
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 4: The Bills lost to the Broncos in the AFC Championship game.

1586
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 4: The owner of the Bills, Terry Bigoula, was in the

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01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 4: locker room afterwards and saw the what he described as

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01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 4: dejection on the faces of the Bills players and began

1589
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 4: to think about moving on from Sean McDermott, and then

1590
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 4: the next day fired Sean McDermott.

1591
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 3: Now today he is sitting at a podium with Brandon Beam.

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01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 4: The GM who has now been promoted to Director of

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01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 4: Football Operations.

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01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: He's been elevated. He talked openly about the bad call.

1595
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 3: Everyone knows what that was, where they ruled a no

1596
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 3: catch for Cooks, they allowed the interception to happen, so

1597
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 3: he referred to that, and then he also just threw

1598
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 3: an absolute haymaker at Keon Coleman. Brandon Bean was taking

1599
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 3: questions and the ownerships and it says, wait a second,

1600
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 3: allow me to elaborate. It was the coaching staff that

1601
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 3: was pushing to get Keon Coleman drafted, so I don't

1602
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: know what the own like. As you mentioned, this is

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01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 3: why a lot of owners don't talk. And it's actually

1604
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 3: now blowing up on him a little bit because there's

1605
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: a video of Brandon Bean at the combine talking to

1606
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 3: other personnel players and they're talking about Keon Coleman's forty

1607
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 3: time and he ran like a four five six four

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01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 3: five seven, and Brandon Bean says well, that'll make it

1609
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 3: easier for us to get him, so clearly he wanted

1610
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:53,919
Speaker 3: him at the combine.

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01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say this about that clip. A lot

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01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 4: happens between February twenty seventh and April twenty sure, and

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01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 4: so that I'm I'll take it with a grain of salt.

1614
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 4: But it does show that at one point the GM

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01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 4: of the Bills wanted Keon Coleman. The other part here

1616
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: is Keon Coleman's getting raked over the coals by his

1617
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 4: owner and by his GM, and a lot of people

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01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 4: are like, that's so mean to Keon Coleman. Well, friend

1619
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 4: of the show, Eric would chimed in, and Eric still

1620
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 4: works for the Bills, by the way, said he knows

1621
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 4: he's in bad standing in the organization. Talking about it.

1622
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 4: Keon Coleman, he was late to meetings enough to get

1623
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 4: benched multiple times. It's hard to be late for meetings,

1624
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,560
Speaker 4: low effort, constantly. He brought all the criticism on his

1625
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 4: self and he's got to own that now. So I

1626
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: don't feel bad for Keon Coleman, and I think it's

1627
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 4: maybe indicative of the fact that they're just over him

1628
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 4: as an organization, and maybe he won't be a Buffalo

1629
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 4: bill next year. But it is a master class in

1630
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 4: what not to do and how to handle yourself. Mike

1631
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 4: green owner and as a GM Actually I have the

1632
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 4: clip if you want to hear it.

1633
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, letk go ahead, you can.

1634
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean was asked about Keyon Coleman and Terry Pigoula interrupts.

1635
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 4: Can I interrupt?

1636
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 9: Uh?

1637
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 15: World the Keon situation?

1638
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 24: Uh?

1639
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 15: The coaching staff pushed to draft Kean. I'm not saying

1640
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 15: Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice.

1641
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 15: That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice

1642
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 15: of his coaching staff who felt strongly about the player.

1643
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 16: And you know.

1644
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 15: He's taken for some reason heat over it and not

1645
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 15: saying a word about it. But I'm here to tell

1646
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 15: you the true story.

1647
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: So there's that, Mike Greenberg. Greeney said today Austin. He said,

1648
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: the leadership of Buffalo has done the impossible. They've made

1649
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 3: the opportunity to coach a team with Josh Allen as

1650
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 3: a quarterback less appealing. Just sometimes seems like folks can't

1651
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 3: get out of their own way.

1652
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of Buffalo Sabers fans who said,

1653
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 4: now you guys understand. And Terry Paula also owns the

1654
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 4: Buffalo Sabers, and that organization's been a dumpster fire for

1655
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 4: a long time.

1656
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 7: You know.

1657
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 4: It's you see two ends of the spectrum. What Steve

1658
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 4: Bescatti did with the Ravens a week or two ago,

1659
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 4: what Terry Bagoula is doing or did earlier today. You

1660
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 4: see why some owners are in some organizations keep their

1661
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 4: owners off the out of the spotlight, off the podium. Yes,

1662
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 4: that's the word I'm looking for, you know. Yeah, I

1663
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 4: mean it's just and I think the part that bothers

1664
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 4: me the most is to just immediately throw Sean McDermott

1665
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 4: under the bus.

1666
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yep, because I think that body is not

1667
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 3: even cold.

1668
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's a good man. I think it's

1669
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 4: a good coach and he obviously had the respect of

1670
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 4: his players.

1671
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1672
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 4: And to just kind of throw him under the bus

1673
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 4: like that, I thought.

1674
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 3: Was the the Eric woodside of it. I couldn't agree more. Like,

1675
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 3: very rarely in the NFL, the first thing you do

1676
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 3: in the building is a meeting, you know, So it's

1677
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 3: not like you're in traffic and you're late, like normally

1678
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: you're having a meal, you are lifting, you're doing something,

1679
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 3: you're getting treatment in the facility, and then meetings happen.

1680
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 3: So most of the time you're in the building already.

1681
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 3: How are you late for that many meetings? Yeah, I

1682
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: could never understand it. As well with with Jermaine Burton,

1683
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 3: you're already there one other NFL note here, listen to this.

1684
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 3: Nick Cassario, the Texans general manager, was asked today about

1685
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon and how everyone had been so secretive about

1686
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 3: what caused the off the field injury. Casario said this,

1687
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 3: he didn't do anything off the field. It wasn't like

1688
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 3: he was writing a snowmobile or anything. I'd say it

1689
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 3: was more just a medical condition or situation that really

1690
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 3: didn't improve as everyone hoped. I'm not trying to evade

1691
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 3: the question, but that's the reality. He didn't jump off

1692
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 3: a building, he wasn't cliff diving, he wasn't doing anything irresponsible.

1693
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 3: It was just a freak thing. I've never seen anything

1694
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: like it. He was also asked about if and when

1695
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 3: mix and Will will turn. He said, we'll see. I'm

1696
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 3: not smart enough to be a doctor, so I'll leave

1697
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 3: that to the medical experts. Yeah, to me, It's just

1698
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 3: a weird situation. Seemed kind of similar to what happened

1699
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 3: with Sheldon Rankins here. We didn't know anything about it

1700
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 3: until well after the fact, and you find out that

1701
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 3: he had shingles and laryngitis or meningiti who I don't know,

1702
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 3: some sort of gitis and he was in a dark

1703
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 3: room for months. Yep.

1704
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 4: So hopefully, you know, I know, Mixon's been tweeting and

1705
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 4: was live tweeting during the playoff game, So hopefully he

1706
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 4: gets okay, and better to go. One other quick note

1707
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 4: as far as Dan Pitcher is concerned. Dan Pitt completed

1708
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 4: a virtual interview today with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for

1709
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 4: their offensive coordinator position. Okay, Brian Callahan has an in

1710
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 4: person interview tomorrow in Tampa for the offensive coordinator position,

1711
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 4: as does I don't know if he has an in

1712
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 4: person but Zach Robinson also Zach in the conversation. He

1713
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 4: was the offensive coordinator in Atlanta with Raheem Morris. All

1714
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 4: three of those guys have Bengals connections obviously, Brian Callahan

1715
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 4: and Dan Pitcher. Zach Robinson played for the Bengals. Zach

1716
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 4: was my senior Bowl A couple of years. Yeah, you

1717
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 4: know Zach, and Zach is also very good friends with

1718
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor. So I feel like one of those three

1719
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 4: guys is the next offensive coordinator of the Bengals or

1720
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 4: remains the offensive coordinator of the Bengals. Yeah, and the Buccaneers.

1721
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 4: One of those three guys from both will.

1722
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 3: Break our three is next. Phone lines will open back

1723
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 3: up five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. We've

1724
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 3: got to talk about the Cincinnati Reds, and we've got

1725
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 3: some Chris va Lake we're going to get to as well.

1726
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 3: That happens next to kick off the third hour of

1727
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 3: today's edition of Cincy three to sixty on ESPN fifteen

1728
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Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Man trouble in the I'm mine today.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. It is our number three, Sincy three sixty

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's Sports Station. Uh, let's switch gears

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Speaker 3: to the Cincinnati Reds here for a few minutes, Austin,

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Speaker 3: because coming off of the conversation we had earlier in

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Speaker 3: the week when Terry Francona joined Lance McCallister at Redsfest

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Speaker 3: and talked about the offense, and you know, Terry Francona

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Speaker 3: addressed a sense of what the elephant in the room

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Speaker 3: is that we're not going to be a team that's

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Speaker 3: scoring nine to ten runs a game now. Terry Francona

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Speaker 3: was then asked about being more aggressive on the base

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Speaker 3: paths with an offense that struggles to hit home runs.

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Speaker 3: This was the quote from Terry Francona. It's very hard

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Speaker 3: to be altra aggressive on the bases without making outs

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Speaker 3: on the basis. My goal wasn't to see how many

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Speaker 3: bases we could steal. It was to see how many

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Speaker 3: times we could be safe.

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Speaker 4: Leading the league.

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Speaker 3: Making outs on bases isn't a goal. Everyone wants to

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Speaker 3: be aggressive. Being aggressive is fun by nature. Every manager

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Speaker 3: and coach wants to be aggressive. But I told them

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Speaker 3: we have to be intelligent or it's just not going

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Speaker 3: to do enough good. We are relying on luck and

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Speaker 3: we don't want to do that. The more I think

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Speaker 3: about this, Austin, the more I just disagree. Was it

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Speaker 3: two years ago where we talked about how much fun

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Speaker 3: this team was on the base path and how much

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Speaker 3: pressure they put on opposing defenses to be perfect?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was twenty three and twenty four like it was.

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Speaker 3: It was just madness. It felt like if a Reds

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Speaker 3: player reached base the other team had to be perfect.

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Speaker 3: Did they get guys thrown out?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 3: But did they score? And did they put themselves in

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Speaker 3: more advantageous situations? I say absolutely.

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Speaker 15: So.

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Speaker 3: If you're not going to be a team that can

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Speaker 3: generate a lot of offense, and you're not going to

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Speaker 3: be a team that's going to generate aggressiveness and put

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Speaker 3: other teams in tough situations on the base pass, aren't

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Speaker 3: you then in just in turn making it easier on

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Speaker 3: teams to prepare for you, aren't you in turn making

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Speaker 3: it easier for a defense to play against you. If

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Speaker 3: I was a defender, I'd rather have that. I'd rather

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Speaker 3: have teams that play it safe, because that's the more

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Speaker 3: sure thing. So everything about this team's offense confuses me.

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Speaker 3: The direction in the offseason for back to back years

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Speaker 3: confuses me. The money that they had available for Kyle Schwarber,

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Speaker 3: but then that money disappeared, being wasn't available for Pete Alonzo.

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Speaker 3: That confuses me. The inability to embrace aggressiveness on the

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Speaker 3: base pass. If you're not going to embrace power hitting Austin.

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Speaker 3: Everything that this team does offensively confuses me right now,

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Speaker 3: So how can this team compete over the course of

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Speaker 3: a full Major League Baseball season? How can they be

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Speaker 3: consistent competitors? Because I'll tell you this, it's not splashing

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Speaker 3: and getting Austin Hayes back on the team. You can't

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Speaker 3: even rely on Austin Hayes to be healthy. And when

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Speaker 3: he is, he's okay. Is he a needle mover? I

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Speaker 3: don't think so. So we already have that from Terry Franconne,

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Speaker 3: and we have what we've talked about this week. Now

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Speaker 3: we've got it from Chris Vlake as well, the hitting

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Speaker 3: coach of the Cincinnati Reds, Austin. Do we have the

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Speaker 3: audio of Velaka talking about the home runs?

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Speaker 21: We do?

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Speaker 4: Can we get to that this is from two nights

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Speaker 4: ago or from last night actually on the Red's Hot

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Speaker 4: Stove League.

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Speaker 30: But when people look at the Reds, and we were

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Speaker 30: talking about this with TJ. Fried a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 30: they see that this is not a big home run

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Speaker 30: hitting team. And I think the impression is that you

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Speaker 30: are for some reason anti home run and maybe Tito

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Speaker 30: doesn't like home runs.

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Speaker 6: That couldn't be farther from.

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Speaker 30: The truth, but talk about the balance of first of all,

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Speaker 30: how difficult it is to hit home runs in the

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Speaker 30: major leagues, and second of all, coaching and creating a

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Speaker 30: game plan an approach that fits your personnel.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I'm definitely not anti home run. I

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Speaker 11: don't think Tito's anti home run. We we definitely aren't

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Speaker 11: preaching that. You know, I think as far as personnel,

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Speaker 11: you know, there's ways to be creative to score runs.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think our biggest thing is, you know,

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Speaker 11: playing to the scoreboard. You know, obviously we want to

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Speaker 11: find ways to score runs, but we also don't want

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Speaker 11: to be a victim to the ballparky having been on

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Speaker 11: different clubs, it's you know, you come to Cincinnati, you

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Speaker 11: don't leave without a home run, and you know, playing

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Speaker 11: eighty one games there that that that doesn't want to

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Speaker 11: be We don't want that to be our identity. So,

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Speaker 11: you know, we we we have to find ways to

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Speaker 11: manufacture runs. I think there's definitely a way, and going

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Speaker 11: into this offseason and into next season that you know,

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Speaker 11: there there's gonna be situations, there's gonna be certain counts,

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Speaker 11: there there's different ways that we can look to impact

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Speaker 11: the ball. But we need to get better again at

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Speaker 11: you know, our foundations, our our situational hitting. I think

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Speaker 11: there was some some some lack of that, you know,

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Speaker 11: towards towards the late innings of games, especially when we're

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Speaker 11: facing leverage arms. You know, we we have to find

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Speaker 11: ways rather than just living and dying by the home run.

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Speaker 11: You know, we we definitely have guys that can can

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Speaker 11: impact the ball, but that doesn't need to be our homemark.

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Speaker 11: You know, when we need it's in the tank, but

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Speaker 11: we have to we have to find ways to continuously

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Speaker 11: put up runs when when it matters.

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Speaker 3: I'm so confused. So Chris Blake in that and Austin

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Speaker 3: essentially says that it's a hitting ballpark, yep, that teams

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Speaker 3: come in and hit home runs here.

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Speaker 4: But yet the mentality of teams is to come in

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Speaker 4: and hit.

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Speaker 3: Home runs, and I okay, playing eighty one games here,

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Speaker 3: you don't want to do that. You don't want that

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Speaker 3: to be your identity the whole plane to the scoreboard,

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Speaker 3: and not wanting to be a victim of the ballpark.

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Speaker 4: We don't want to be a victim of our own ballpark.

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Speaker 3: How about using your advantageous hitting ballpark to hit home runs? Yes,

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Speaker 3: why not that? Yes, other teams game plan is that

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Speaker 3: I don't understand. I don't understand, like.

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Speaker 4: Like you have built an advantage.

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Speaker 3: To me, it's like saying, you know what, we know

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Speaker 3: that other teams come in here to hit home runs,

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Speaker 3: but we're good, Yeah, we don't need to What type

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Speaker 3: of thinking? What type of backwards answer? Did I just

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Speaker 3: listen to Chris vilakspew out of his mouth?

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Speaker 4: Like to me, it's like, you know, you say that

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Speaker 4: teams come into Cincinnati and they think everybody's leaving here

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Speaker 4: with the home run because we have a chance in

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Speaker 4: this small ballpark to hit the ball out of the ballpark,

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Speaker 4: whereas like you get to play eighty one games there.

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Speaker 4: It should be your identity, yep. It should be where

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Speaker 4: teams fear having to go to Cincinnati because those dudes

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Speaker 4: mash and at that ballpark they can leave the yard.

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Speaker 4: It should be your identity. There are no answers given

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Speaker 4: by Chris Valeka or Terry Francona over the last week

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Speaker 4: or so that fully identify what their identity is and

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Speaker 4: what their plan is. And I don't know if they

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Speaker 4: are just so they think that they have no money

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Speaker 4: and they can't afford these players, and this is the

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Speaker 4: path that the organization has to go down, and so

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Speaker 4: we're going to try to fit a square peg into

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Speaker 4: a round hole. I don't know if that's if they

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Speaker 4: truly believe they can't build the team to to do that.

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Speaker 3: They were last year there were ten teams in Major

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Speaker 3: League Baseball that hit above two fifty, No one higher

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Speaker 3: than two sixty five. What does two fifty equate to that?

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Speaker 3: That's one hit every four batters. So if you're playing

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Speaker 3: to the scoreboard, like Chris fa Lakea said, wouldn't the

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Speaker 3: quickest way to put runs on the scoreboard would be

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Speaker 3: a hit? Home runs? The Reds last year as the

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Speaker 3: team hit two forty five, your goal, your plan is

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Speaker 3: to count on stringing more hits together. And how did

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Speaker 3: they do that this offseason? How did they go about that?

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Speaker 3: Who had the highest batting average on the team last year?

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Speaker 3: Gavin lu Gone in thirty four games, Miguel Andrew Harr

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Speaker 3: hit three fifty nine. Is he here?

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Speaker 24: No?

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Speaker 3: In one hundred and three games, Austin Hayes hit two

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Speaker 3: sixty six. What's what's the game plan? Again? Ten teams

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Speaker 3: in baseball hit over two fifty. Most of the league

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Speaker 3: is hitting around two forty. So your your idea, your thought,

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Speaker 3: your game plan while not being too aggressive on the

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Speaker 3: base pass is you're just going to count on stringing

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Speaker 3: together two, three, four hits in a row.

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Speaker 4: Stupid?

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Speaker 3: What is that?

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Speaker 4: And Okay, if you say, okay, we don't want to

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Speaker 4: be a victim to our ballpark, number one, what the

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Speaker 4: hell does that mean? Number two?

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm trying to diagnose a riddle. How do

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Speaker 3: you then take advantage of your ball right when other

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Speaker 3: teams do. I if you don't want to be a

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Speaker 3: victim to the ballpark, well, then how do you take

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Speaker 3: advantage of it? And like, clearly you've built a pitching

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01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 3: staff that is a very good pitching staff. And I

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Speaker 3: would imagine that's probably because, you know, you play at

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Speaker 3: a small ballpark. So other teams are getting ready to

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Speaker 3: come to Cincinnati and they're meeting or they're on the way.

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01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 3: They get to Cincinnati and they're saying, all right, we

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Speaker 3: got a chance hit the ball out of the ballpark. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And the Reds are like, nah, we're going to string

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Speaker 3: three and four together. That's gonna be how we score.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do so by not being too aggressive on

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Speaker 3: the bass pass because you don't want to run yourself

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Speaker 3: out of hits.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you should have people coming into Great American

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Speaker 4: Ballpark feeling like they're going into a bomb shelter because

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Speaker 4: the other team is going to bomb you with homers.

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Speaker 4: Like that's what you should be afraid of coming into Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: you know how, Like you play a game in Denver, right,

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Speaker 4: you go up against the Broncos, and as soon as

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Speaker 4: you walk out of the locker room, it says elevation

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Speaker 4: sickness is real. Yeah, it's intimidating factor. Now listen, Great

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Speaker 4: American Ballpark is not you know, the Reading high school

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01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 4: baseball field. It's a major league ballpark. But dudes mash

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Speaker 4: homers out of there. Guys hit him into the river.

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Speaker 4: Why can't you take advantage of that? Why can't that

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Speaker 4: be a part of your identity? I don't understand. I

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Speaker 4: feel like v Laka should know he played here.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Christopher Lake is like the joker and

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Speaker 3: he just throwing riddles out there.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Mob made a really good point yesterday

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Speaker 4: when he was talking about this is like, you know,

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Speaker 4: you don't have to win games ten to nine. Can

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Speaker 4: you win games ten to five? You've put together the

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Speaker 4: pitching staff that can keep opponents at bay. Why can't

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Speaker 4: you put together the hitting staff that gives your your

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Speaker 4: pitchers an advantage too, that takes the stress off of

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Speaker 4: them every single night coming into a one run game

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Speaker 4: where you don't have to pitch Scott Barlow one hundred

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Speaker 4: and sixty five times in a season. Like everything about

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Speaker 4: the way that they do business when it comes to

1942
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 4: roster building outside of pitching, is completely asked backwards, and

1943
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 4: it has been for a long time. Like I got

1944
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 4: so much respect for Derek Johnson, Like what that dude

1945
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 4: does and be the director of pitching, Like it all

1946
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 4: makes sense. Nothing about their hitting philosophy makes sense. And

1947
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 4: the best answer you got last night was we really

1948
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 4: want to hit the ball hard and hit it on

1949
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 4: a line, no kidding. Every team in baseball wants to

1950
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 4: do that. And I don't think that they fear hitting

1951
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 4: home runs. I don't think they're teaching them not to

1952
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 4: hit home runs. That's not the problem. The problem is

1953
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:17,600
Speaker 4: the philosophy of being afraid of your own ballpark and

1954
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 4: not being willing to take advantage of that.

1955
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 6: I just I don't.

1956
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 3: Understand in so much. All we've heard about is analytics

1957
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:31,640
Speaker 3: two forty five team batting average. The analytics say you

1958
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,600
Speaker 3: will get one hit every four at bats. The analytics,

1959
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 3: you're going against that then and saying we need to

1960
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 3: just string hits together. That doesn't work. And oh, by

1961
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 3: the way, in using those analytics, we'll take the top

1962
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 3: three guys in batting average and we'll make sure they're

1963
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 3: not on our roster next year to start. What are

1964
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,759
Speaker 3: they doing, like, honestly, what are they doing on offense?

1965
01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:01,520
Speaker 3: It's maddening. It is absolutely mad, And it's so backwards

1966
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 3: to say, we know opposing teams come in with the

1967
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 3: goal to hit home runs, no da, no da. Because

1968
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 3: it's a hitter friendly ballpark. It lends itself. It's advantageous

1969
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 3: to hit home runs at Great American Ballpark and not

1970
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 3: this team.

1971
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 4: I know this is going to shock you. The Reds

1972
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 4: are a better offensive team at home. Last year they

1973
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 4: hit two point fifty one with a three to twenty

1974
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:34,560
Speaker 4: on base person It's yeah, yeah, but at home and

1975
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 4: they hit eighty seven homers at Great American Ballpark?

1976
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:41,640
Speaker 3: What why we don't want to lean into that.

1977
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 4: But on the road they hit eighty. Yeah, so they

1978
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 4: hit seven more homers and twelve points lower batting average wise,

1979
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 4: seven less homers and twelve points lower batting average wise

1980
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 4: on the road.

1981
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't want to lean into that home field.

1982
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 3: Let's not into that too much. Do we have any

1983
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 3: other Chris leaka audio because that was so riveting?

1984
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 4: Uh, we can, we can get to some after the break.

1985
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 3: Let's take a break.

1986
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 4: He talked about, uh, Matt McLean and Spencer Steel.

1987
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 3: Well, they're gonna hit those drives this year.

1988
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,719
Speaker 4: This are the two guys. This season is all about

1989
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 4: those two. They're gonna be healthy.

1990
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 3: Why do you need an addition when you already have

1991
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 3: two coming back? To get to that.

1992
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 4: I love Spencer Steer. I won't speak ill of him.

1993
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 3: We'll get to that. We'll also get to uh, your

1994
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 3: phone calls coming out as well. No, Spencey base my

1995
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 3: long Ball's tweets have gone Spencey Bass hits hashtag that

1996
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 3: Spency Knox on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, Cincinnati

1997
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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

1998
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Speaker 1: Tony Pike, Sincy three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1999
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, sincey three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty

2000
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. Your phone call is welcome here in

2001
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 3: just a few minutes five one, three, seven, four nine,

2002
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,799
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty. But first, let's double down on Chris Valaika.

2003
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 3: And by double down, I mean like, let's play more.

2004
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about doubles, which I don't want to

2005
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 3: be conjunted. We don't need to hit doubles either. Singles

2006
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 3: are fine, move the runner over, sacrifice buns here and there.

2007
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about hitting doubles. But we're doubling down

2008
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 3: on more. Chris pha Lake audio. What do we have here, Austin.

2009
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 4: This is Chris Valaika on Spencer Steer and Matt McLean.

2010
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 11: I think there there's definitely a health component, you know.

2011
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 11: I think with Spence, I'm really proud of the year

2012
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 11: that he put together after you know, coming off a

2013
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 11: tough April and you know, hitting one sixty one eighty

2014
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 11: whatever it was, to end up with twenty plus homers

2015
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 11: and driving in the runs that he he had, you

2016
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 11: know that that just shows how well he hit, you know,

2017
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 11: through the year to put him in a in a

2018
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 11: position where he finished, you know, and then and when

2019
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 11: it comes to Mattie. You know, he he missed the

2020
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 11: year and a half. I feel like there's times where

2021
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 11: we give him a you know analysis that you know,

2022
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 11: he had ninety games in the big leagues and you know,

2023
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 11: had some success, but you know where he's at. He

2024
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 11: missed a year and a half, so he went through

2025
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 11: that sophomore year, he went through that acclamation period and

2026
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 11: you know, he learned a ton in the big leagues.

2027
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 11: You know, there there's probably a case where he could

2028
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 11: have been demoted, and we kept him in the big

2029
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 11: leagues that you know, he continued to learn and help

2030
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 11: us win games. So I think they're both going to

2031
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 11: be better for it and looking forward to big things

2032
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 11: for both of those guys.

2033
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you Matt, I'll give you Spencer Steer injury,

2034
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 3: slow start, didn't get where he needed to be, disastrous

2035
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 3: early start of the year, came on and I thought

2036
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 3: was one of their more consistent hitters down the stretch

2037
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 3: the whole Mount McLain missing a year and a half,

2038
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:58,679
Speaker 3: But Matt McClain played the third most games of anyone

2039
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 3: on this team last year. Ellie Friedel McLain played the

2040
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 3: top three most games this year, Matt McLean hit two twenty.

2041
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's a sophomore slump. I don't

2042
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 3: care if he hadn't played baseball in five years. What

2043
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 3: the message last year became was, even though he's going

2044
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 3: to the sophomore slump, he's going to stay in the

2045
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 3: lineup every day. Why that's my biggest thing? If I'm

2046
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 3: following up to Christopher Lake, Okay, how can you get

2047
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 3: these guys off to a better start so that they

2048
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 3: don't have to climb out of this massive hole like

2049
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 3: Spencer Steer did? And two, why was this organization so

2050
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 3: adamant to play Matt McClain in one hundred and forty

2051
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 3: seven games when he was clearly struggling. I don't understand it.

2052
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 3: You don't have to be a baseball savant, you don't

2053
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 3: have to be a Hall of Famer to watch Matt

2054
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 3: McClain and saw last year that he was struggling and

2055
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 3: had no confidence. Why was he out there every game?

2056
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 3: And as the answer, just because he had a sophomore

2057
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 3: slump and he hadn't played in a year and a half.

2058
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 3: Like that's the side I don't understand. Spencer Steer, I

2059
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 3: get it. Terrible start, worked his way back, scratched and clawed.

2060
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 3: What's the Mount McClain answer, and how does it get

2061
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 3: any better? I don't know, Like I'm more down on

2062
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 3: Mount McClean right now. And if the answer is, like

2063
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 3: you mentioned, going into the break well, Mount McLean and

2064
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 3: Spencer Steeer are going to be better, that's what you're

2065
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 3: banking on, Like, is that where we're at right now

2066
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 3: in this process? They'll be better. Mount McClain can't have

2067
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 3: a worse year than last year because if not, what's

2068
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 3: what's playing B for Mount McClain, Austin if it was

2069
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 3: last year, Gavin Lux, what's playing B for Mount mclin.

2070
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's one of the biggest issues. I

2071
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 4: think the break glass in case of emergency would be

2072
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 4: South Stewart, maybe Spencer Steer. Spencer has played some second base,

2073
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 4: but that does feel like a bit of an oversight

2074
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 4: right now because where is that offense going to come from?

2075
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 4: And what if it doesn't show up now? To McLean's point,

2076
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 4: he to be fair to him, he isn't rehabbing anything.

2077
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 4: For the first time this offseason, he has felt like

2078
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,879
Speaker 4: he's able to actually work on hitting instead of rehabbing.

2079
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 4: He's added twelve pounds of muscle, which I don't know

2080
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 4: if the Reds like that because that would mean more

2081
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 4: home runs. Oh that's crazy think, But you know, I'm

2082
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 4: willing to give him an opportunity, and I think we

2083
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 4: all should be. But I think we're already putting too

2084
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:44,719
Speaker 4: much on the idea of all those guys are healthy.

2085
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 4: That'll change everything. So I guess some question your point,

2086
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 4: I think is what happens if he doesn't return to

2087
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three? Mat McLean? Yeah, where do you get

2088
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 4: your offense from?

2089
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,759
Speaker 3: Then my question is one does he what if he doesn't?

2090
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 3: And two what's the leash? You know, last year it

2091
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 3: felt like waiting, waiting, waiting, Why is Matt McClain Like

2092
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 3: it became a thing Austin where every day at the

2093
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 3: end of this show we waited to see the lineup

2094
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 3: to see where Mount McCain was going to be, and

2095
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 3: then laughed most days when he was still in the lineup.

2096
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 3: So my question for twenty twenty six then becomes how

2097
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 3: long does he get If he got the third most

2098
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 3: played appearances of any Red last year, or the third

2099
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 3: most games played, how long is his leash? In twenty

2100
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 3: twenty six, and if you move on from him, what

2101
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 3: does that look like. Does he stay on the roster,

2102
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 3: do you send him down? Do you use that roster

2103
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 3: spot for somebody else? Like I hope, I really do,

2104
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 3: because I like Matt McClain. I really hope that he

2105
01:52:54,600 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 3: returns to form. But as an organization, better be planning

2106
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 3: for what the answer is if he doesn't, because that

2107
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 3: would be a significant oversight, that would be a significant problem.

2108
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know what the trust

2109
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 3: level is. I don't know what the what the excitement

2110
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 3: around Matt McClain is. Again, I hope he gets better,

2111
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 3: but there should be something in the works in case

2112
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 3: he doesn't. And and to round out the baseball point,

2113
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't enough to get Kyle Schwarber this offseason, and

2114
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 3: then it became more about Kyle Schwarber making this organization

2115
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 3: money than it did the actual player that was coming

2116
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:50,640
Speaker 3: to the team. So here was the money that was

2117
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 3: going to be made available for Kyle Schwarber, but that

2118
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 3: money wouldn't have been available for Pete Alonzo. And then

2119
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:57,719
Speaker 3: you just go down the list of all the hitters

2120
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 3: that have been signed since it wasn't enough to move

2121
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 3: the needle in Cincinnati, wasn't enough for the Reds to

2122
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 3: go in on. My thing is Austin. If it ultimately

2123
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:12,600
Speaker 3: ends and Austin Hayes becomes the splash that seems like

2124
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 3: such a disappointing off season. Yeah, in a way to

2125
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 3: end the off season, I agree. I don't I don't

2126
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 3: know what. I don't know what it looks like. I

2127
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 3: don't know what it becomes. But if if we start

2128
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 3: the regular season and the only bat that has added

2129
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 3: between now and then is Austin Hayes, how do you

2130
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 3: even summarize the offseason failure?

2131
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 12: Right?

2132
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 3: I mean they added, they added, I get it. Their

2133
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 3: bullpens better than it was when the season ended. I'm

2134
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 3: I'm all for that. How is their offense going to

2135
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 3: be any better unless guys just get better from what

2136
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 3: they were last year?

2137
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 4: The word I think of is stagnant. I don't know

2138
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 4: that failure is fair, but stagnant just enough to keep

2139
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 4: the team together and hopeful that guys will return to form. Yeah,

2140
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 4: We've said it many times and it can't be said enough.

2141
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 4: Hope is not a strategy, and it feels like they're

2142
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 4: putting a lot of hope into a lot of their

2143
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 4: strategy as to the hope of McLean and Steer will

2144
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 4: return to forim, Ellie's going to be fully healthy, another

2145
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 4: year of Tito YadA, YadA YadA, Hunter Green won't get

2146
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 4: hurt again. Well, what happens if they do.

2147
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 10: Right?

2148
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 4: You know, every team has injuries. And I've talked earlier,

2149
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 4: you know, going into this offseason two about the Bengals.

2150
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 4: I'm not going to shut up about depth this offseason

2151
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 4: because we've seen how important it is. This is the

2152
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 4: exact same conversation. Yeah, you got pitching depth, and they

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01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 4: deserve a lot of credit for that, and they're getting

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01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 4: their flowers for it, and I give Nick Crawl credit.

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01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 4: What I don't understand is what appears to me is

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01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 4: just a complete disregard or disbelief that you should invest

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01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 4: in hitting. And then on top of that, couple it

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01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 4: with a weird discourse about the ballpark that I have

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01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 4: a hard time understanding. And I don't think you know

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01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 4: much like we never should let Phil Castellini live down

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01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 4: the where else you're gonna go comments, we should never

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01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 4: let them live down the hole. We were only in

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01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 4: on Schwarber because he could sell tickets thing, because that's

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01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 4: insulting to Reds fans.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you that we know the free

2166
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 3: agents that are left out there the idea of a trade,

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01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 3: and I know it was a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 3: the maybe even last week, Ken Rosenthal reported the teams

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01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 3: continue to inquire about Cincinnati starting pitchers. Rosenthal added that

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01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 3: Hunter Green, Nickelodolo, and Andrew Abbott are believed to be unavailable.

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01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:00,880
Speaker 3: Rosenthal goes on to say, to train one of those starters,

2172
01:57:00,920 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 3: even Brady Singer, whose trade value is the lowest, the

2173
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 3: Reds almost certainly would need major league starters in return,

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 3: and they still want more offense as well. I'm okay.

2175
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 3: If you're saying that Green, Lodolo, and Abbott are off limits,

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01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 3: that's fine now. I think Lodolo is one that I

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01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 3: would be willing if the right offer was out there,

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01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 3: I'd listen to it. Do you foresee any trade between

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01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 3: now and spring training that would potentially move on from

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01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 3: Brady Singer and in return get a bat for the

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01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 3: Reds because it ain't there in free agency?

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01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 4: In my opinion, yeah, I guess off the top of

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01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 4: my head, I don't know exactly who that guy would

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01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 4: be I just continue to cite that the people who

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01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 4: are around this team every day who are fully convinced

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01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 4: another move is going to be made. Some of the

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01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 4: guys out there in free agency or au Haanio Suarez,

2188
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 4: Luis or Eyes. That could be a backup play to

2189
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 4: Matt McLean. That could be the other first basement. I

2190
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 4: don't know.

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01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 3: I mean, Arise would play right into what they want

2192
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 3: to do because he doesn't hit home runs.

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01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just slaped singles all day, right, So I

2194
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 4: don't know why I have sign them already, but I would.

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01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 4: I would assume that's a real possibility, But I just

2196
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 4: don't know if it's the right.

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01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 3: Move right now.

2198
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 4: Is there a guy that you get in that trade

2199
01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 4: for Brady Singer who would essentially be a rental that

2200
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 4: is going to completely change your offense to the point

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01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:20,960
Speaker 4: where it feels worth.

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01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 3: It so right now? Charlie Goldsmith tweeted this out earlier today,

2203
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 3: an upgraded free agent list Ijheneo Suarez the top free

2204
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 3: agent bat remaining outside of that Austin Hayes, Harrison Bader,

2205
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 3: Miguel Andrew harr Nate Lowe, Reese Hack Like, I'm not

2206
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 3: interested in those names. Those don't move the needle for

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01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 3: me for the offense. Now Suarez would, But that's a

2208
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 3: home run hitter in a hitter friendly ballpark where you're

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01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 3: not one to hit home runs. So are you? Are

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01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 3: we now in the under the radar conversation JJ Bledet

2211
01:58:55,360 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 3: Dane Myers? Are we now pivoting to that? If we're

2212
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Reds. I don't know it. Just it feels

2213
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 3: like I think you hit the It feels stale. It

2214
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 3: feels like an organization that's getting ready to enter another

2215
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 3: year the same way they entered last year. Good pitching,

2216
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 3: playoff caliber pitching, no consistency hitting. And the point that

2217
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 3: you mentioned if you talk to hitting coaches or you

2218
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 3: talk to even doctors or people that are around the sport,

2219
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 3: there is a difference austin in pitching and high stress

2220
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 3: situations in pitching and what it does to the arm.

2221
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 3: Right you mentioned like Hunter Green. It's one thing to

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01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 3: go out there and you got a three or four

2223
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 3: run lead. It's another thing when you feel like you

2224
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 3: can't give up a run. Sure, those high leverage situations,

2225
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 3: those high stress situations, those do more of the body

2226
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 3: to break the body down than if you were to

2227
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 3: go hit first inning to run home run and give

2228
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 3: your guy a little breathing room. There's science behind that,

2229
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 3: so that would help the pitching staff as well. Incredible.

2230
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 3: I might just play the Christoph Laka thing one more time,

2231
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:17,200
Speaker 3: just to see if I can understand it. We'll take

2232
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 3: a break, we'll come back a few minutes, and then

2233
02:00:19,080 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 3: we'll get back.

2234
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 4: Give victim to our ballpark.

2235
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:24,919
Speaker 3: On ESPN fifteen thirty. You get played to the scoreboard.

2236
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:27,760
Speaker 3: That's what we do every day. We play to the

2237
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 3: scoreboard here in studio on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports

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02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 3: Station w since E three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

2239
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 3: Sports Station. Molegger joins us. In just a few moments,

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Speaker 3: there is a I don't know if you've if you've

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02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 3: seen the duke quarterback Darien Mensa, have you seen this

2242
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 3: story going on with him?

2243
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 4: Never heard of him?

2244
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:02,320
Speaker 3: So he he is permitted to enter the transfer portal,

2245
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:05,920
Speaker 3: but he can't enroll at another school or play football

2246
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 3: for another college team. Before a North Carolina Jewel judge

2247
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 3: rules on Duke's request for an injunction that would prevent

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02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 3: him from leaving. So basically, what happened. He signed a

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02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 3: contract with Duke in twenty twenty four, believed to be

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02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 3: worth four million dollars this year.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 3: He then informed Duke's coach that he intended to transfer

2253
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 3: the last day that transfer portal was open. So he's

2254
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 3: got an existing contract with Duke which the university intends

2255
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 3: to honor. Now they're expecting him to honor it as well.

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02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 3: So again the court issued a temporary restraining order to

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Speaker 3: make sure he doesn't violate his contract. Now, it's also

2258
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 3: believed in this that Miami has tampered with mensa Oh

2259
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 3: to say, okay, Carson Beck's gone, we want you to

2260
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:59,840
Speaker 3: be our next guy. That would also be an issue.

2261
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 3: So now they're saying, well, he can go into the portal,

2262
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 3: but he can't sign anywhere because we've got this deal

2263
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:08,240
Speaker 3: in place. This, to me, Austin would break the back

2264
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 3: of this whole system. The only thing I feel like

2265
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:15,000
Speaker 3: schools will be able to do is to get these

2266
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:18,800
Speaker 3: guys under a contract for their nil that they have

2267
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 3: to live up to as long as the school's living

2268
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 3: up to it. If not, what is preventing a guy

2269
02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 3: from saying, all right, I'll sign for four million here

2270
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:27,800
Speaker 3: and then someone offers six and they bail on that

2271
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 3: contract if this gets overturned, if he can go elsewhere

2272
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 3: while he's got a contract in place. I don't see

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02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:37,640
Speaker 3: how you ever turn back from anything with college sports.

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02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm right there with you. And again, eventually there's

2275
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 4: gonna be a union, and there's gonna be representation in

2276
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 4: these bargaining deals. It's all gonna it's all coming down

2277
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 4: the pike.

2278
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 3: And like, this is what drives me nuts about the NCAA,

2279
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:58,440
Speaker 3: is that any time a ruling goes against the athlete,

2280
02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 3: what happens. Now we're gonna sue the NCAA, and then

2281
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:06,400
Speaker 3: what happens? All right, here's a temporary restraining order, here's

2282
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 3: here's an issue that you can go play until we

2283
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 3: get this injunction figured out, the books out on this.

2284
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 4: Now it just takes forever. There's too many cases and

2285
02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 4: not enough people, and so what do you.

2286
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 3: End up doing? All right, we'll just let it go, yep,

2287
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:22,240
Speaker 3: all right, we'll let the and then like that's why

2288
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 3: people think, like we talked earlier in the show about

2289
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 3: the the athlete, the player for Alabama, Charles Betty Echo,

2290
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:34,360
Speaker 3: like this is why people were worried about the Enjaia

2291
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 3: Baylor because once you allow one guy to do it

2292
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 3: and the rules are a little bit different, are a

2293
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:43,880
Speaker 3: little bit foggy gates. Now the floodgates are open. Also,

2294
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 3: Mick Cronin is still upset. We'll talk to Moagger next

2295
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2296
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Speaker 1: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes since

2297
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 1: he three sixteen was.

2298
02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 4: Looking for more, welcome back. He's here, Moe's here, Yes,

2299
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 4: he's Moe in the building.

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02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 3: He Moe's ready to go.

2301
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 4: Hi, everybody I know.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson had a player's only meeting in New York.

2303
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:11,600
Speaker 3: We have not had to do that here yet.

2304
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 6: Well, did you know where they had the players only

2305
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 6: meeting at? Where? Bob Evans?

2306
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 3: No way, Wow, there's a lot of things that can

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Speaker 3: get done. Toto Bob Evans.

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Speaker 4: I haven't been to Bob Evans in quite a while.

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02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 6: They all the players got together.

2310
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 4: I thought I'd be going a lot about having a membership.

2311
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:30,960
Speaker 4: Bob Evans haven't been very much though.

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Speaker 3: What a spot. Uh, you have a show coming up today?

2313
02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:35,000
Speaker 3: What's on your show?

2314
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Speaker 6: Let's see winners go first? Nice Miami has won twenty

2315
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 6: consecutive games. We will discuss whether or not there's any

2316
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 6: path for the RedHawks to make it as an at

2317
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 6: large if, okay, they don't win the mag Tournament with

2318
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:56,200
Speaker 6: our guy, the Nky Brackett Guy, Hunter Sandsong. All right, Hunter,

2319
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:59,880
Speaker 6: the official bracketologist of the Moegger Show. Rick Brooring is

2320
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 6: go to join this to talk about Xavier basketball. The

2321
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 6: Musketeers getting set to play Creighton Big one Blue Jays

2322
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:09,920
Speaker 6: throttle them at the Centa Center. Can the Musketeers flip

2323
02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 6: the script? We'll talk about we'll talk about all that

2324
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 6: with reck coming up at three forty five, we'll look

2325
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Speaker 6: ahead to tonight's you see in Arizona, Oh boy, Bearcats

2326
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 6: with a golden opportunity. By the way, just for what

2327
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:24,040
Speaker 6: it's worth, I have, I've made the investment. I did

2328
02:05:24,080 --> 02:05:28,160
Speaker 6: this last night plus eight ten Cincinnati on the money line.

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02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,840
Speaker 6: Now it's a plus six eighty Oh. Now it's a

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Speaker 6: plus six eighty oh.

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Speaker 3: Interests are crashing down.

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Speaker 6: Interesting game tonight because, as you have pointed out, Arizona

2333
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 6: doesn't shoot a ton of threes. Now when they do

2334
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Speaker 6: shoot them, they're pretty good. Yeah, Forty fifth in the country,

2335
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,839
Speaker 6: middle of the pack in the Big Twelve. What concerns

2336
02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 6: me though, is Arizona is number four in the country

2337
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 6: an offensive rebounding percentage. So can the Bearcats keep the

2338
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:57,360
Speaker 6: Wildcats off the glass? I think that's what this game

2339
02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 6: is gonna come down to. If Cincinnati is going to

2340
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 6: keep it, Arizona gotta lose some time. At some point.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to in the Big Twelve. You don't

2342
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 3: want to go in defeed him.

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02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:06,280
Speaker 4: Why not at home?

2344
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 6: No want you want to loss.

2345
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:09,480
Speaker 3: You want to be able to get your guys back

2346
02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:11,080
Speaker 3: to smock in you can learn.

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02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:14,320
Speaker 6: You know, Tommy Lloyd is one of the great teachers

2348
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 6: in this sport. But it's sometimes nice to have a

2349
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 6: teachable moment. When a loss to the Bearcats on your

2350
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 6: own floor would be a teachable moment.

2351
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 3: When it was it last year of the year before

2352
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 3: where Tommy Lloyd said he didn't want to be a

2353
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 3: victim of his arena.

2354
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 6: Man, I have no idea Austin and I were talking

2355
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 6: about that off. I mean, Chris Fahlake is a good dude.

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Speaker 6: I don't understand why they don't lean into their ballpark.

2357
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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm trying to solve a riddle when

2358
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 3: he talks like from Francona the other night. Huh talking

2359
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 3: about well, we don't need to be aggressive on the

2360
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,080
Speaker 3: like when they were running a couple of years ago.

2361
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:48,560
Speaker 3: I thought it puts so much pressure on defenses. Yeah,

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02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 3: let's take that away. We're a two forty fifty average

2363
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 3: hitting team. That's one in every four hits. But we're

2364
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:57,720
Speaker 3: going to count on stringing hits together and not leaning

2365
02:06:57,760 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 3: into the ballpark where every other team comes in and say, what,

2366
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:04,440
Speaker 3: we can hit some home runs this weekend. You don't

2367
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:06,640
Speaker 3: want to be a victim of the ballpark. I don't

2368
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 3: really understand what that means. Justis of the ballpark. I

2369
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,880
Speaker 3: am gonna talk more about Tito's comments to Lance. The

2370
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 3: Magnificent Tito the Magnificent Tito is never wrong about anything.

2371
02:07:19,120 --> 02:07:22,960
Speaker 3: But by the way, if if Nick Crawl said we're

2372
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 3: not gonna lead the league in runs, he would be destroyed.

2373
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 6: But when Tito says it, because Tito's everybody's buddy, Yeah,

2374
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:32,640
Speaker 6: Tito the storyteller. It's just Tito telling it like it is.

2375
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:35,000
Speaker 3: Man, you think this great pitching staff would ever be like,

2376
02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 3: hey'd be nice not to pitch in high leverage situations

2377
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 3: every time I take the ball.

2378
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 6: So that was my point yesterday. I don't understand. So

2379
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 6: Tito said, we don't want to win games ten to nine,

2380
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 6: and no, that's not sustainable. Right, an NFL team doesn't

2381
02:07:47,240 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 6: want to try to win games forty nine to forty two.

2382
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 6: It's not sustainable. But like, why does it have to

2383
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:53,880
Speaker 6: be either or? Why does it have to be? Well,

2384
02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 6: you either win three two or ten to nine. How

2385
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 6: about this? Win games nine to four? How about win

2386
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:01,840
Speaker 6: games six to two? How about win games? And if

2387
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 6: you win more lopsided games, it eases the stress on

2388
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:08,560
Speaker 6: your bullpen, It eases the stress on your starters. It

2389
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 6: allows you to take some of your starting position players

2390
02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 6: out early in games. Occasionally, it gives you a little

2391
02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 6: bit more fun, a little bit more managerial roster flexibility.

2392
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:20,920
Speaker 6: I don't understand why it has to be either or. Hey,

2393
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:23,080
Speaker 6: well we don't want to win games ten to nine.

2394
02:08:23,400 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 6: I don't either. I want to win games ten to three.

2395
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 6: Yeah right, No, why no? It can only be you

2396
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 6: can only win two to one or ten nine.

2397
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:32,960
Speaker 3: You could talk to doctors. That's say, pitching in high

2398
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 3: stress situation can lead It leads to more injury. Sure, yes,

2399
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:39,120
Speaker 3: like what and everything about this though as.

2400
02:08:39,200 --> 02:08:42,920
Speaker 6: Likely the more likely you are to maybe over use somebody.

2401
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 6: And I don't think Tito has ever really been guilty

2402
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,360
Speaker 6: of this, but you're you're a little bit when when

2403
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 6: teams win more lopsided games, they tend to use all

2404
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 6: of their players, guys that you wouldn't use in high

2405
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 6: leverage situations, and so they're better prepared for higher leverage

2406
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 6: situations down the road. And you could take one of

2407
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 6: your better relief and go, you know what, tonight, we're

2408
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:03,040
Speaker 6: giving you the night off because we're winning the game

2409
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:05,360
Speaker 6: by four runs. And if we bring in somebody who

2410
02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:07,200
Speaker 6: gives up a boatload of runs in the games tight,

2411
02:09:07,240 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 6: then you put get put back in. I don't understand

2412
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 6: why it has to be either or they took a

2413
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 6: Zach Taylor going, well, you know what, we're not gonna

2414
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:19,520
Speaker 6: lead the NFL in in fewest points per game because

2415
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 6: we know our defense. Like he didn't say that, correct, right, Hey,

2416
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 6: they've got a good offense, go fix the defense.

2417
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 3: They've also said we're not gonna be a victim of

2418
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 3: the ballpark. But those average hitters Gavin Lux, Miguel Andrew

2419
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 3: Harr Austin Hayes. They're gone. They're top three averages from

2420
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 3: last year. And if this spins to Austin Hayes coming

2421
02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 3: back as the big splash, I can't buy into it.

2422
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:45,160
Speaker 6: Well, fortunately the New York Mets did him a solid

2423
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:47,680
Speaker 6: by trading for Luise Roberts. Yeah, because that didn't make

2424
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:50,800
Speaker 6: any sense to me whatsoever. I didn't want Louise Robert.

2425
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 4: But there's.

2426
02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:58,760
Speaker 6: There's like a type that the Reds have. Thered got

2427
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:02,120
Speaker 6: him in JJ Bleday, so I forgot So, like, is

2428
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:04,280
Speaker 6: there is there another one of those dudes out there?

2429
02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:07,360
Speaker 6: I don't understand why they won't lean into And the

2430
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:09,640
Speaker 6: thing is like they don't want to be victim of

2431
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:14,680
Speaker 6: the ballpark. But they tried a quotes tried taking a

2432
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 6: dude who had fifty six bombs last year.

2433
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,040
Speaker 3: We have identified not being a victim of the We

2434
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 3: have identified that other teams do, in fact come into

2435
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:24,800
Speaker 3: this ballpark and try to hit home runs. Yes, we're

2436
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:27,160
Speaker 3: not going to watch this. We're not gonna do that.

2437
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:32,879
Speaker 6: Just hit a bunch of sis in our over friendly ballpark.

2438
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 3: It's ten teams in baseball hit over two fifty last year.

2439
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,000
Speaker 3: We're talking about a one in every four hitters get

2440
02:10:38,080 --> 02:10:40,440
Speaker 3: on base, and we don't want to lean into home

2441
02:10:40,520 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 3: runs in a home run friendly ballpark, as you.

2442
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:45,320
Speaker 6: Just mentioned, Like, it's not like so to me, the

2443
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 6: issue is lack of offensive identity. It's not like, well,

2444
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:49,720
Speaker 6: they got a whole bunch of dudes who are great

2445
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:52,560
Speaker 6: at getting on base, or you know, they don't want

2446
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 6: to play little ball, so they're in a whole bunch

2447
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 6: of guys who are just gonna steal a ton of bags.

2448
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:59,560
Speaker 4: Is it a lack of offensive identity or organizational idea?

2449
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 6: It's probably that. It's probably the latter organizational ident goodness.

2450
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,560
Speaker 6: And like what I what I love is what I

2451
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:09,080
Speaker 6: love is when you make fun of these things as

2452
02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:12,600
Speaker 6: we do, we'll be padded on the head. And they

2453
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 6: won eighty three games last.

2454
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:16,960
Speaker 3: Year, some remarkable accomplish till two or three of these

2455
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:19,240
Speaker 3: guys get off to hot starts in spring training. Oh

2456
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 3: have you seen how Cactus Lee? You've seen these guys Hill,

2457
02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 3: I mean playing claimed the third most games played laster

2458
02:11:29,800 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 3: he missed a year and a half.

2459
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 6: I already saw from Redsfest this week, So and so

2460
02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 6: it looks like he's in great shape.

2461
02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:38,200
Speaker 3: One moving on from Gavin Lux Huh, okay, give him

2462
02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:40,160
Speaker 3: a chance, that's fine. Sure, How long is the leash?

2463
02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 3: And what's option be?

2464
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 6: Does it Sal Stewart? Where Sal Stewart gonna play?

2465
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:44,400
Speaker 3: Right?

2466
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 6: Is he gonna be the d H Matt McClain I'm

2467
02:11:49,480 --> 02:11:52,920
Speaker 6: fascinated by because we're all hoping. You know, we talk

2468
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 6: about like, well, he was the best player in twenty

2469
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:57,800
Speaker 6: twenty three for eighty nine games. It's not like, God

2470
02:11:57,880 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 6: love Matt, but it's not like he is this long

2471
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:03,440
Speaker 6: as a may of success that outweighs the last two years,

2472
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 6: one of which he obviously didn't play. We're all hoping

2473
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:07,960
Speaker 6: from the guy from twenty twenty three. But I think

2474
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 6: it's one of the biggest questions of this season. If

2475
02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:11,800
Speaker 6: we get to the middle of June and it's like,

2476
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:14,080
Speaker 6: all right, you know what twenty twenty three Matt McLean's

2477
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:16,920
Speaker 6: not showing up either, then what Yeah, last year was

2478
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:18,880
Speaker 6: Santiago Espinal batting second?

2479
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 4: Maybe that's the backup.

2480
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:25,200
Speaker 6: He's still out there, Go get Santiago Espel's a Batwell.

2481
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:28,000
Speaker 3: You think Kean Coleman woke up today thinking he was

2482
02:12:28,040 --> 02:12:32,400
Speaker 3: going to be just catching straight from his It's a

2483
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:34,000
Speaker 3: weird time in the NFL right now.

2484
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:35,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's woken up yet. He probably forgot.

2485
02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:40,200
Speaker 4: It's also true him and Jermain Burden were at the

2486
02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 4: casino last night.

2487
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:43,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I might. I might be there about eleven thirty

2488
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:47,280
Speaker 3: to nine. If things go well, I will celebrate tonight

2489
02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:50,760
Speaker 3: like Miami fans celebrated on Monday. If you see wins

2490
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 3: this game, Yes, crazy?

2491
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:52,520
Speaker 27: Is that?

2492
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:52,880
Speaker 8: Like?

2493
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 3: I get like? That's just where I'm not mentally crazy.

2494
02:12:56,000 --> 02:13:01,320
Speaker 3: They will celebrate like a national championship is nuts.

2495
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:05,320
Speaker 6: I remember the night they beat Duke. I remember, yeah,

2496
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:08,040
Speaker 6: where I was, and I remember who I was with. Now,

2497
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 6: unfortunately who I was with is no longer with us,

2498
02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:13,840
Speaker 6: but he will be with me tonight in spirit at

2499
02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:17,640
Speaker 6: the exact same establishment, with the exact same order. That

2500
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:21,280
Speaker 6: establishment hasn't changed its decor in the nearly twenty eight

2501
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:25,360
Speaker 6: years since. I'm going to channel Melvin Levitt, Kenyan, Martin,

2502
02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:28,560
Speaker 6: Ryan Fletcher. Yeah, boys, the night they beat Duke in

2503
02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:33,240
Speaker 6: Anchorage as Cincinnati goes to Tucson and shocks the world

2504
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 6: plus eight ten last night, enjoy the wins. If they

2505
02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:39,760
Speaker 6: win tonight, I am going to be irrational.

2506
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:42,560
Speaker 3: There has never been a more nothing to lose game

2507
02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:45,960
Speaker 3: than this tonight. I wish I could say that because

2508
02:13:46,240 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 3: Western Michigan, if we go, if we knew what we

2509
02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:48,360
Speaker 3: knew that.

2510
02:13:49,440 --> 02:13:52,960
Speaker 6: I wish I wish they were like fourteen and four

2511
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:55,240
Speaker 6: and you could say that, Yeah at this point, if

2512
02:13:55,280 --> 02:13:57,440
Speaker 6: they were eleven and seven and just beat Eastern Michigan,

2513
02:13:57,480 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 6: I would feel right, I'd feel pretty good. Like that's

2514
02:13:59,600 --> 02:14:02,240
Speaker 6: the frust the riating thing is if you're fourteen and four,

2515
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:05,000
Speaker 6: It's like, all right, fine, uphill battle at the number

2516
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,160
Speaker 6: one team in the country. Go be the Arizona State

2517
02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:07,600
Speaker 6: on Saturday.

2518
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:09,000
Speaker 3: And I like the fact that you get to lock

2519
02:14:09,080 --> 02:14:11,320
Speaker 3: in tonight and not overlook them as you're getting ready

2520
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:16,080
Speaker 3: for Arizona State exactly exactly. Moagar is next. I don't

2521
02:14:16,160 --> 02:14:18,320
Speaker 3: know if we'll be here tomorrow. If you see wins

2522
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:19,040
Speaker 3: this tonight.

2523
02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:22,280
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll be here. Who I'll be here?

2524
02:14:23,680 --> 02:14:26,000
Speaker 3: I'll have a will you have slept much?

2525
02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:27,000
Speaker 10: Well?

2526
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:28,440
Speaker 6: We have a talent symposium at Tennant.

2527
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:30,160
Speaker 3: That's right. That should be fun.

2528
02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:34,280
Speaker 4: Symposium be really exciting, is it? Bob Evans.

2529
02:14:36,440 --> 02:14:39,480
Speaker 6: Play the pancakes me you, Jalen Brunson.

2530
02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:43,200
Speaker 3: Mo is next, We're done. Have a great rest of

2531
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:47,120
Speaker 3: Your Day, Oh Boy, on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station,