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<v Speaker 1>portable like that baby. I think we might be missing

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<v Speaker 1>the big picture when it comes to AI data centers,

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<v Speaker 1>uh semiconductor industry, you know with then Tell and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that stalled a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But big picture, though, is, despite all.

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<v Speaker 1>The environmental and electricity worries, what about restoring American greatness

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<v Speaker 1>relative to technology, relative to manufacturing and in a different

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<v Speaker 1>way than our previous generations did it. I'm talking, of

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<v Speaker 1>course about Ohio now the fifth largest host of AI

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<v Speaker 1>data centers, and that looks to be growing. Are we

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<v Speaker 1>missing because of our fears and not unwarranted fears? I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're legitimate, But I missed the big picture when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to expanding the job space here in Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sorely needed. In the show this morning is

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Kelly from Columbus. He is CEO of something called

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<v Speaker 1>the American Edge Project that deals with us. Doug, welcome back, Howray,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Scott, how are you I'm doing fine. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>why most of the civilized world speaks English because it

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<v Speaker 1>is the business of language and the business that we created.

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<v Speaker 1>American entrepreneurship industry created that environment. Dollar is the standard currency,

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<v Speaker 1>the reserve currency.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>How important is it to continue to lean on tech

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<v Speaker 1>in order to continue that and put it into context

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<v Speaker 1>with the congressional plan now with TikTok where they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make an American health company and kind of use

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<v Speaker 1>that as a front.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, just a back one second, and let's look at

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<v Speaker 3>the importance of technology in our overall daily lives. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So tech isn't just another sector of the economy, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it is a very backbone of our national security or

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<v Speaker 3>economy and the advancement of values that we really care about,

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<v Speaker 3>free expression and letting your voice be heard. So the

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<v Speaker 3>challenge is when Congress talks about regulating technology, it can't

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<v Speaker 3>paint with a very broad brush. Right, there's things that

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<v Speaker 3>it can do that can either help our ability to

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<v Speaker 3>innovate and compete against China, or are the things they

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<v Speaker 3>can do that can fundamentally damage our ability to remain

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<v Speaker 3>the technological leader in the world. They've passed that chips

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<v Speaker 3>and science build, which is going to help bring more

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<v Speaker 3>manufacturing and semi conductor chips the United States. It'll create

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<v Speaker 3>technology hubs. It will also increase funding for STEM education.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's an example of a really good thing that

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<v Speaker 3>Congress are doing to help our ability to innovate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, I think that's important too, because

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of bad. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>negative with this, and that is that our enemies have

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<v Speaker 1>learned to poison up ourselves. You know, a lot us

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<v Speaker 1>poison ourselves basically, which has always been the goal. That's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fallow role. I'm destroyed from within. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people predict that for the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we always find a way to write the

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<v Speaker 1>ship though, right, We don't go away. We figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to adapt and we move on. We're really good

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<v Speaker 1>at that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. I mean, that's the heart of the American

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<v Speaker 3>genius is our ability to innovate and adjust as circumstances come.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of our concerns is that some of the

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<v Speaker 3>bills that Congress is talking about passing are things that

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<v Speaker 3>would undermine our ability as a country to innovate, and

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<v Speaker 3>particularly they would target America's most innovative technology companies. Now

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<v Speaker 3>these companies, yeah, they run social media platforms, they make

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<v Speaker 3>hardware and software. But what a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 3>know is that the biggest technology companies in the US

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<v Speaker 3>are also the biggest investors and the most important strategic

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<v Speaker 3>technologies that we're battling with against kind of so artificial intelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>robotics on them, computing, these are all the technologies that

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<v Speaker 3>are going to determine who leads in the future. And

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<v Speaker 3>so as Congress wants to clamp down on those companies,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to hurt our ability to invest in those areas,

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<v Speaker 3>to develop and master those technologies, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>hand over to China an edge that we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to get back, just like what happened with manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well in another edge too, we get back to Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>and the fall there and how middle will rich that

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<v Speaker 1>country is now that China has control of that or

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<v Speaker 1>Russia as control or whatever. Now, now, where are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to get these Where are we going to get

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<v Speaker 1>the precious natural resources in order to make the chips

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<v Speaker 1>that you're talking about. That that's you know, we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how important that is, but I think that fits

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<v Speaker 1>into what you're discussing here because the topic of rare

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<v Speaker 1>earth minerals is now front and center.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, we are in this competition in China,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's okay, who can build the most microchips, who

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<v Speaker 3>can have the most innovation. China knows that innovation is

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<v Speaker 3>its weak spot, right. They're good at copying and reverse

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<v Speaker 3>engineering things, but their challenge is innovation, and they've invested

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of money to boost their innovation. So at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, the US has to do

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<v Speaker 3>things that accelerates our ability to innovate, and that includes

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<v Speaker 3>things like freeing up our biggest innovators, making smart investment

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<v Speaker 3>in building core critical technologies here. Now, there's certain things

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<v Speaker 3>that can be done to you know, where the pressure

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<v Speaker 3>and pain points come where technology hits politics and society.

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<v Speaker 3>There's certainly regulations could be done there, right, Connors should

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<v Speaker 3>pass a privacy policies so people understand what their data

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<v Speaker 3>is being used for, what control they have over So

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<v Speaker 3>there's certainly smart things that can be done there. But

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<v Speaker 3>some of the things they're talking about in Washington right

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<v Speaker 3>now just under minor ability to innovate, and they actually

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<v Speaker 3>don't solve the problems that people are feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Trump for the well second time now there's

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<v Speaker 1>a new sheriff in town. Wasn't long ago where he

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<v Speaker 1>had dignitaries in the United States go to places like

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan and try and build relationships with US. Rank in

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<v Speaker 1>that connection to the United States and Tiuan because they're

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for all the stuff we're talking about right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We make a very small percentage, like twelve percent of

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<v Speaker 1>those semiconductor products right now, so they're an important ally.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't give that up.

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<v Speaker 3>You are spot on what that's got. I mean in

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<v Speaker 3>the nineties when semiconduct were invented, right, American manufactured most

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<v Speaker 3>of them. Now we manufacture just twelve percent, with the

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<v Speaker 3>bulk of the most sophisticated chips being made in Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just one hundred miles away from China. And

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<v Speaker 3>if China made a move on Taiwan that was fundamentally

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think the COVID supply chain attruction was big,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be enormous. Yeah, And so you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to be able to make sure that we're making

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<v Speaker 3>in our own backyard as well, and at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to do actions that checked China's ambitions, both

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<v Speaker 3>from a technology sign but also from a little bloy ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>In regards to Doug Kelly, CEO American Edge Project on

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<v Speaker 1>the show on seven hundred WLW, you're right there in Columbus.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to see this huge Intel plant and essentially

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<v Speaker 1>town that is built to make semiconductors right here in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that mean for the state in America as well?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that seems to be a huge step forward.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about the lack of manufacturing in America, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is high tech manufacturing, good for jobs and how

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<v Speaker 1>to be sure, but in TOEP putting having a big

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<v Speaker 1>footprint right here in Ohio let alone, the United States

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<v Speaker 1>also is kind of what you're talking about here, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is sounds like the United States, we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>increase our share of that market.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, it's going to be great news for

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio and all the Midwest. First of all, you know

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<v Speaker 3>when I talk about unintended consequences of bills that Congress

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<v Speaker 3>may pass, right, you know, twenty years ago Condress did

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<v Speaker 3>some things on manufacturing that kind of slowly led manufacturing

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<v Speaker 3>jobs over twenty years, many of them exported to China.

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<v Speaker 3>And so one thing we don't want to have happen

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<v Speaker 3>with the bills that Congress is talking about is unintended

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<v Speaker 3>consequences that hurt our ability to manufacture and innovate on

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<v Speaker 3>the technology side. And so the passage of this chip

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<v Speaker 3>bill is going to bring new jobs, three thousand new

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<v Speaker 3>jobs into Ohio just that plant. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>when you have like they're building construction trades and the

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<v Speaker 3>other people have to build these facilities, those are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be even more jobs there. So it's a huge

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<v Speaker 3>multiplier effect in building our own technology here.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Kelly and Columbus CEO of the American Edge Project,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pushing more and more tech, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Intel at some point, I think third twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, as I saw when they opened the plant

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<v Speaker 1>near Columbus you're talking about. But you know, the AI

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<v Speaker 1>data centers and everything else in Ohio is fifth in

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<v Speaker 1>the country when it comes to those data centers, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is awesome, and there's some concerns there too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we talk about the environmental we talked about electricity,

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<v Speaker 1>the power and the grid. I talk about that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot too, and it's conld put a bigger drain on

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<v Speaker 1>the system, but you build more infrastructures supposed to just

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<v Speaker 1>prevent people from doing this. We've got to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>innovate and lead the world for not only our economic future,

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<v Speaker 1>but also for our survival too, because we we got

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<v Speaker 1>to stay on top ors of the Chinese and the Russians.

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<v Speaker 1>That's had a lot of people listening are concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>social media the impact it has on young kids. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>are you suggesting in some way, shape or form, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>an unregulated Internet or it's hard to censor the First

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<v Speaker 1>Amendment because that is a guy given inalienable right in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. But there's got to be a balance there.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would say that, you know, our coalition is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, twenty four different groups of you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>who represent small businesses, minority business, Asian American businesses, as

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<v Speaker 3>well as technology companies. And our message is focused on

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<v Speaker 3>the importance of innovation because sometimes, you know, people forget

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<v Speaker 3>that innovation is America's secret sauce that puts us ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of other countries, and it's kept as they head of

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<v Speaker 3>other countries. To address your specific question. You know, at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, there are certain regulations that

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<v Speaker 3>can be done that will give people clarity and insight

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<v Speaker 3>on Okay, what could we be done with our data? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>so Congress could pass the privacy policy. But what we're

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<v Speaker 3>against the things that fundamentally disrupt America's ability to innovate.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing that we feel Congress is Russian

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<v Speaker 3>full with this legislation. And it's not just on fa

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, right when you think of the biggest company Google, Amazon, Microsoft,

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<v Speaker 3>these are companies are making game cheese and investments in

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<v Speaker 3>the technology of the future. And if you if you

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<v Speaker 3>disrupt or break apart those companies, it's gonna have lasting consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the end of the day, we're for innovation

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<v Speaker 3>at the American ADS Project, and that's what gives us

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<v Speaker 3>our edge. But we're for smart type of regulation that

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<v Speaker 3>actually solve the problem or against reckless regulation.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and generally when you start to break up companies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we say that here Cincinnati Bell, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>as no longer Cincinnati Bell for it. But but you

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<v Speaker 1>know when they broke up the baby bell and the

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<v Speaker 1>baby bells, you know, back in the back in the

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<v Speaker 1>Day forty something years ago, fifty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That was to.

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<v Speaker 1>Control a monopoly. I don't know if I see that

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<v Speaker 1>as much with big tech in that argument. And certainly

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is massive, and there's a lot of big alphabet right,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of big companies out there that do this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. But I just don't see the tech

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<v Speaker 1>the advantage in breaking them up. It's gonna Does it

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<v Speaker 1>make competition better or harder?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's fierce competition and right now, So for the

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<v Speaker 3>opponents of the big tech companies, I just challenged their

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<v Speaker 3>assumption and their assertion that there's not competition there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Facebook is battling them out all the time when the

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<v Speaker 3>other social media companies TikTok, and so there's really fierce

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<v Speaker 3>competition among these and that forces innovations faster. And so

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<v Speaker 3>right now, with the current regulatory scheme we have of

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<v Speaker 3>how do we deal with monopolistic activity, it's done to

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<v Speaker 3>the court. That's the right way to go. That system works.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no need to fundamentally disrupt that because technology moves

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<v Speaker 3>really really fast. And I'm old enough to remember my

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<v Speaker 3>Space and AOL when they were the big behemoth, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what the market took care of that,

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<v Speaker 3>So we believe the market takes care of a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of problems in competition. Is the real accelerance on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But the argument that would be, well, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just made a case Kelly and said, hey, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty fierce competitively now, but if we broke everything

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<v Speaker 1>up in the smaller companies are thinking, well, that creates

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<v Speaker 1>even more competition, doesn't it. Or the other way to

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<v Speaker 1>look at it as well, it's it's much tougher now

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<v Speaker 1>to fund those companies because almost like a startup at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, right, there's only so much you can do

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<v Speaker 1>with the wealth at Facebook and other companies of a mask,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably easier at this point, right. So what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is, if you're using your argument, if you broke

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<v Speaker 1>everything in the smaller pieces of the pie, you create

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<v Speaker 1>more competition?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that not necessarily true?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but there's some things that can only be done

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<v Speaker 3>at large scale, right, So we're in the we're in

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of the platform economy phase right of global development,

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<v Speaker 3>right China as it's a big platform. We have our

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<v Speaker 3>big platforms, and those platforms generate new ideas across a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of different business lines, and they also generate profits

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<v Speaker 3>which are then investing into this cutting edd research. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just give an example, right in those strategic technologies

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<v Speaker 3>of the future that I talked about, our five big

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<v Speaker 3>as technology companies in America invest more each year in

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<v Speaker 3>those than the Pentagon does. Right, And these are dual

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<v Speaker 3>use technologies, right, So they're both for military purpose but

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<v Speaker 3>also for commercial purpose. And so we can either hand

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<v Speaker 3>that at China militarily. But worse of all worse is

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<v Speaker 3>that that would give them a competitive advantage. Do we

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<v Speaker 3>want them to sell all the different AI solutions? Do

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<v Speaker 3>we want them to sell the quantum computer solutions to

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<v Speaker 3>the world and reap that economic benefit? Well, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>of what we want. Yeah, because it really matters which

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<v Speaker 3>country and which set of values builds the future. Is

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<v Speaker 3>it going to be US China? It's a simple question.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you mentioned that data privacy and things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly big tech, and you know people who use big

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<v Speaker 1>tech can join hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, okay, that's something we should fight.

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<v Speaker 1>The most contentious thing, of course, is section two thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>which is wonky. But you know, if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that means, it's simple. It means that platform like Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, are not legally responsible for what people post

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<v Speaker 1>on them. So prior to this, if a website you know,

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<v Speaker 1>modified content or whatever, they're legally responsible for anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>posted on that website. I look at this, it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like me trying to control what a caller would say

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<v Speaker 1>to a talk show. I can't control what you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>or saying. Now, there are certain dirty words I can

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<v Speaker 1>bleep out and the like, but generally your message is

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you don't swear, you can say pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much whatever the hell you want. I kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>at it that way. When it comes to section two thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bad and you have people can lie and spread mistruths,

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<v Speaker 1>and you pretend to be a I don't know, a

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old girl when they're actually a seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>year old man. I get that, but by and large,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, you know. I kind of look at it

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<v Speaker 1>the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, a whole point behind section two thirty

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<v Speaker 3>was to help innovation go and grow, and it has

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<v Speaker 3>served its purpose specifically on the content moderation piece. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>we believe in having more voices in the marketplace. Right

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<v Speaker 3>or at the end, of the day. The best ideas

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<v Speaker 3>are going to win. And yeah, acte what you said right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's certain techniques and activities in as far as actors

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<v Speaker 3>are going to do, but more voices in the marketplace

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<v Speaker 3>being able to speak their truth and be able to

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<v Speaker 3>say what their opinion is. That's better. That helps our country,

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<v Speaker 3>that builds a stronger, more robust electric.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Kelly, CEO of American Edge Project up in Columbus,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all about American led innovation and keeping the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet open, which I agree pretty well with most of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Anyway, Doug gotta go. Thanks to the TOME. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Hey, thanks Scott, great day you too as well.

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<v Speaker 1>time to catch up on some streaming stuff. I got

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff for you to do, some streaming related things.

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<v Speaker 1>Will Gans is here from MAYBC, New York. Three things

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<v Speaker 1>for your relative to the small screen if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in, which is a good idea. He'll get

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