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Speaker 1: kf I AM six forty social media, Facebook, viral Load,

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Speaker 2: Load arliy kf I AM six forty live everywhere on

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Speaker 3: It's Later with Mo Kelly.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tiffany Hobbes and this is tonight's viral load. If

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Speaker 2: you're looking for a friend, there's a new app, a

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Speaker 2: new device that could possibly fit into your life as

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Speaker 2: a companion. It's not a furry friend. It's not a

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Speaker 2: digi pet to those were popular in the nineties. No,

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Speaker 2: this one is actually a pendant, a necklace that you

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Speaker 2: wear around your neck. You might have seen these advertisements

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Speaker 2: on the sides of buses. You might have seen them

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Speaker 2: inside of subway car subway trains. You might have seen

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Speaker 2: them on large scale billboards. It's called friend dot com

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Speaker 2: and the billboard itself the advertisement is very nondescript.

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Speaker 3: There's just this.

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Speaker 2: Little kind of glowing pendant and it says friend dot com.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: It's meant to draw your attention, and it has drawn

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Speaker 2: the attention of many people, and that's why we're talking

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Speaker 2: about it. In tonight's Viral load because as a counter

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Speaker 2: to what people perceive as a dystopian entrance into companionship,

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Speaker 2: people are what are they doing? They are spray painting,

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Speaker 2: they are graffitiing over these ads. In an effort to

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Speaker 2: try and get people to not necessarily buy into this

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Speaker 2: digital friend, it would start it by Avi Schiffman, who

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Speaker 2: is a tech founder, a tech bro who rose to

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Speaker 2: fame during the COVID nineteen pandemic as he created a

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Speaker 2: very popular case tracking website.

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Speaker 3: He took the funding.

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Speaker 2: That he was able to generate from that website and

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Speaker 2: also raised an additional two point five million dollars to

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Speaker 2: create this AI powered pendant, which again offers or claims

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Speaker 2: to offer you companionship by listening to your conversations and

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Speaker 2: sending you messages.

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Speaker 3: The pitch is very simple.

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Speaker 2: Loneliness is a public health crisis, and friend dot com

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Speaker 2: has a product to fix it. Just clip this one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine dollars pendant to your shirt, Let

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Speaker 2: it listen to how you interact throughout the day or night,

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Speaker 2: Be careful, and it will then send you encouraging messages

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Speaker 2: tailored to your personal algorithm.

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Speaker 3: It's always on.

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Speaker 2: It's an AI powered friend, but now we're seeing images

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Speaker 2: go viral all over social media of people spray painting,

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Speaker 2: vandalizing things with slogans like quote get real friends, and

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Speaker 2: quote stop profiting off of loneliness. But Avi Schiffman, the creator,

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Speaker 2: seems to believe that all press is good press, and

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Speaker 2: they push forward with this concept. It's not yet available,

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Speaker 2: but it will be soon.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, bum, Look, it's not for me,

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Speaker 4: and there's something swarmy about it, but I think it's

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Speaker 4: a brilliant idea from a marketing standpoint where there's not

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Speaker 4: a lot of overhead. You create the pendant, which obviously

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Speaker 4: is more than one hundred percent markup at one hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty nine dollars right, and it's providing AI. So

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Speaker 4: that's technology that you're not really paying for after a

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Speaker 4: certain point, and it's just going to bring in mostly revenue.

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Speaker 4: The upfront cost is probably in the R and D,

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Speaker 4: the research and the development, but after it gets going,

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Speaker 4: it's probably a cash cow waiting to happen.

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Speaker 2: It is, and that's what they're banking on that loneliness

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Speaker 2: will translate hello, a cash cow being a cash cow.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of loneliness, if you're lonely and you are a

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Speaker 2: person who suffers from depression or any sort of withdrawal

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Speaker 2: People who experience depression say that it's hard for them

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: Now on TikTok, there's a new trend. There's a chow

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Speaker 2: hell and that challenge is supposed to shed light on

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Speaker 2: instead of dumping a bucket of ice water over your

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Speaker 2: called the twenty eight days without a shower. What twenty

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Speaker 6: Like the month of.

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Speaker 4: February without taking a shower, and I assume that includes

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Speaker 2: A bath, that includes any kind of bathing that would

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Speaker 4: There are people who are saying there are other ways

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Speaker 2: You can do the hot spots, but you are not

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Speaker 4: Rather make a donation. No, I'll talk about it on

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Speaker 4: my radio show. But damn, I want to take a shower.

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Speaker 3: I'm wash my ass twenty eight days.

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Speaker 2: And people again are saying that this is to call

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Speaker 6: I gotta ask some quick questions.

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Speaker 4: So, Mark, what's the longest you've ever gone without taking

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Speaker 4: a shower, willingly or unwillingly.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to answer that question, but I wonder

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Speaker 5: is who's the challenge for? Here is the challenge for

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Speaker 5: people who have to be around you, because there's really.

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Speaker 4: No upside for people who are not involved in the challenge. No,

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Speaker 4: if I were to if I were like under house

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Speaker 6: Could probably manage three or four days.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we went through the COVID nineteen pandemic where

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Speaker 6: Excuse me.

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Speaker 4: I showered every single day during the pandemic, every.

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Speaker 3: Single day exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I know again it's related to a mental health issue.

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Speaker 2: So we're not at all putting down people who experience

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Speaker 2: these sorts of effects of mental health turmoil, but to

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Speaker 6: You can talk about it. You ain't got to do it.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to do it raise money.

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Speaker 6: Look, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Need to avoid a shower for a month to do

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Speaker 4: what we're doing right now. Use our platforms which are

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Speaker 4: available to discuss it, raise awareness.

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Speaker 3: But we don't have to go through go to those extremes.

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Speaker 4: To be fair, and I'm being serious now, there are

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Speaker 4: members of my family who are veterans, and like my

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Speaker 4: brother in law, he's retired now working police department, but

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Speaker 4: as they say, weeks at a time. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 4: showering obviously became less and less important. And a lot

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Speaker 4: of people who are veterans, who have seen actual combat,

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Speaker 4: they will come back, reintegrate in society and showering is

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Speaker 6: That is something completely different. It is.

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Speaker 4: But for the rest of us civilians, damn it, take

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Speaker 4: your shower, take a shower.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, we're gonna talk about a couple,

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Speaker 2: a woman in a couple who's doing something different to

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Speaker 2: then lastly, aging happens. But apparently if you are in

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Speaker 4: All of that more, well, that was a great tease.

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Speaker 4: It's a Lady with mo Kelly viral though, Part two

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Speaker 4: coming up in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: No, it's my moment Tiffany live on Canes Lata with Mokelly.

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Speaker 2: She'll talk about them.

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Speaker 3: This on social media, it's Tiffany Hubbs.

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Speaker 2: Hey if I am six forty live everywhere on the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app, It's Later with mo Kelly.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tiffany Hobbs.

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Speaker 2: And this is part two, the conclusion of tonight's viral

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Speaker 2: load mote.

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Speaker 3: You're married, I offen, Yes I am.

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Speaker 2: When I have these sorts of stories, I often often

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Speaker 2: throw it to you because you have longevity in the game.

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Speaker 2: You've been married for a while almost ten years now.

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Speaker 2: That's plenty of time to devise a chore system in

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Speaker 3: Do you have one of those?

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say chure, but there are some expectations like

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Speaker 4: if the dishes in the sink, just go ahead and

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Speaker 4: clean them off and put them in the dishwasher. I

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Speaker 4: will be the one who will pull out the trash

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Speaker 4: cans and take the trash cans in, Like, for example,

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Speaker 4: I pull them out on Wednesday, they pick them up,

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Speaker 4: But I wouldn't say chores or there are days where

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Speaker 4: I have time, I'll pick up the dog pool in

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Speaker 4: the backyard. But that's about it. So you get it done,

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if your wife decided to charge you

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Speaker 6: You know, because I don't know if you know this,

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Speaker 3: Oh done tiny.

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Speaker 4: So I suspect that if she were to broach that,

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Speaker 4: To your point, I'm gonna charge you twenty five dollars

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Speaker 4: like a ticket or something. We probably would have a misunderstanding.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a Georgia woman who's going viral because she

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Speaker 2: has decided within her marriage that to keep chores balanced

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Speaker 2: Her name is Jess, right, she's thirty two. Her husband's

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Speaker 2: At first, the husband DJ says he was surprised, but

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Speaker 2: it works in your marriage, so be it. And let

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Speaker 2: me just give another example. There's some people say like

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Speaker 2: sole provider. They should not split bills, and I say,

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Speaker 2: whatever works for your house.

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Speaker 6: If that works for their household, that's fine, it. Damn sure,

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Speaker 2: And again it's going viral, so people are of course

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Speaker 2: well spur others into action. I wonder how many wives

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Speaker 2: or even husbands or spouses of any kind might implore

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Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying it. I hope you know who

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would be inclined to believe that if

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Speaker 4: It's later with Moe Kelly. Caller number nine. Disney forepack

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Speaker 4: a caller number nine. Caller number nine, Number nine, you

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Speaker 6: Tiffany, didn't.

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Speaker 4: I give them all the information, all of the information.

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Speaker 4: I told him when I was going to give it away,

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Speaker 6: Click call number two, Click call her number three. I

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Speaker 4: He's vicious with it and fast. Oh yeah, it's sometimes

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Speaker 6: No Click.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a status.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's like he's I don't know, it's just

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Speaker 6: He just takes it out on the caller.

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Speaker 4: He's very efficient. Were looking at the positive way EF

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Speaker 4: Caller number nine DK Fuel on the mo migles chat

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Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, the people were in the momagles

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Speaker 4: well I know Twala has talked to someone. And here's

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Speaker 4: tell us someth Mike, you're just shaking your head. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's taking their information right now.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so we have a winner tentatively. Yis the family? Fore?

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Speaker 4: Pat, do they sound excited? Can you ear hustle? Hear anything?

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Speaker 6: Oh? They're very excited. Okay, yeah, why not?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's put them through. Who am I talking to

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Speaker 6: Aren't you wait bit? Weren't you in the momgos chat?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I am so happy. Wait bit?

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Speaker 4: And didn't you specifically ask when we were giving away tickets?

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Speaker 7: When when was it? That was a long time ago chat?

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Speaker 6: Everything was above board. We weren't hiding anything.

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Speaker 7: Congratulations, Oh, thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: Oh? Oh, yes, my son.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's one person. You got two more people you

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Speaker 7: Oh, I didn't even think of that.

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Speaker 6: That's a family four pack. There's a four pack.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, he's mentally challenged that you might say.

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Speaker 7: Let's just say he's with me and we haven't been

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Speaker 6: That's all I want.

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Speaker 7: Is on a special day or what?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's a family four pack that will be

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Speaker 6: But you're not locked into one day.

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Speaker 7: Oh fantastic, Oh you can't. It's made me so happy.

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Speaker 6: That's all we want. That's all we want so much.

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Speaker 6: You're very welcome don't think Twala. It's all me. Don't

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Speaker 4: It's actually everything to do with Twala because he's the

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Speaker 4: Once you go, I want you to hit us back

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Speaker 7: See what it pays off to get in the Migo chat.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. I wish people would just listen

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: We'll check in with George Norri when we come back

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Speaker 6: AM with George Norri and he choice me. Now, good evening, George,

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Speaker 8: Got a great program tonight, missed to Kelly. We're going

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Speaker 8: to talk about Darwin and intelligent design and then later

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Speaker 8: on ET disclosure. When will it happen?

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Speaker 6: Hello?

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Speaker 4: You and me both been asking that question for years.

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Speaker 4: I hope it's within my lifetime. We've had sub level

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Speaker 8: You got that right, But we'll talk about that tonight

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Speaker 6: You know, if you think about the.

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Speaker 4: The billions of stars in just our galaxy, and that's

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Speaker 4: not counting the exoplanets combined with the trillions of gala

446
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Speaker 4: seas in the known observable universe. Mathematically, it would be impossible,

447
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Speaker 4: whether you believe in God or not, whether you believe

448
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Speaker 4: in just luck that we came out of this primordial

449
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Speaker 4: ooze and it's just here on this one rock, which

450
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Speaker 4: happens to be in what they call the habitable zone,

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Speaker 4: the inhabitable zone.

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Speaker 6: The math does not even support that.

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Speaker 4: So when I say, yes, I believe that there is

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Speaker 4: intelligent life other than on this rock. And I'm not

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Speaker 4: so sure there's even intelligent life on this rock, given

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Speaker 4: what I've been seeing on this planet for the you know,

457
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Speaker 4: for the better part.

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Speaker 6: Of my adult life. Yeah, I just talk about the math.

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Speaker 4: And I think I've talked about this with you, Mark

460
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Speaker 4: the Fermi paradox, where we as humans and being able

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Speaker 4: to look beyond the Earth, we've only had the real technology.

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about Copernicus and Galileo with a telescope

463
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Speaker 4: to I'm talking about being able to really look into

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Speaker 4: the cosmos and see on a granular level different planets

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Speaker 4: and solar systems. We've only been able to do that

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Speaker 4: for the pa maybe past forty fifty years.

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Speaker 5: Well, Carl Sagan laid it all out way back in

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Speaker 5: the Cosmos days about how it's nearly mathematically impossible that

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Speaker 5: there isn't some kind of advanced alien life. But we

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Speaker 5: do know that if they have the technology to get

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Speaker 5: here from wherever they came from, they can obliterate us.

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Speaker 5: We better hope their patient and forgiving.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and hopefully talking about Carl Sagan and Cosmos, which

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Speaker 4: was the basis for the movie Contact, Yeah, you could like,

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Speaker 4: and I'm taking this from the movie, hopefully they'll think

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Speaker 4: of us as like an ant hill in a positive sense,

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Speaker 4: where we're not all that important to them in paraphrasing,

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Speaker 4: as opposed to an ant hill that they would just

479
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Speaker 4: go ahead and step on because we're of no consequence. Look,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we will ever have and I'm

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Speaker 4: not asking for some intelligent race to land on the

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Speaker 4: White House lawn. I'm not saying that, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying that they would be humanoid in form. Our concept

484
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Speaker 4: of life is very limited of what we know because

485
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Speaker 4: we always think from an earth bound perspective carbon based

486
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Speaker 4: life forms. And when I was talking about the Family

487
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Speaker 4: paradox is, there could be other civilizations, but we're not

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Speaker 4: passing each other in the timeline in the larger course

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Speaker 4: of history.

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Speaker 6: At the same time.

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Speaker 4: You know, if there was a civilization which was beyond

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Speaker 4: our reach, which existed, let's say, three thousand years ago

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Speaker 4: or three million years ago, doesn't mean that we're going

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Speaker 4: to cross in the sense of their technolology. In our technology,

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Speaker 4: we may not come to the point where we could

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Speaker 4: contact each other at the same point in time. And

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Speaker 4: to Mark's point, if we're contacting anyone, or if anyone's

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Speaker 4: come to visit us, because we can't even get to Mars,

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Speaker 4: they are vastly superior than us, vastly in ways that

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Speaker 4: we can't even comprehend.

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Speaker 5: I keep going back to the original day the Earth

502
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Speaker 5: stood still, and I don't think we've really changed that

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Speaker 5: much since the fifties when that came out. What did

504
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Speaker 5: we do in that movie? To Gort and Klattu, we

505
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Speaker 5: probably haven't earned the benefit of the doubt so much.

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Speaker 4: No, we're probably very unimpressive. And you think about our technology.

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Speaker 4: We just had the we just got the ability to

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Speaker 4: fly about one hundred and ten years ago. Okay, we

509
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Speaker 4: haven't been in the whole technological revolution all that long.

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Speaker 5: We haven't even been pooping indoors that long.

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Speaker 6: Are you just kidding me?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 5: But any alien civilization that looks at us has got

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Speaker 5: to think, oh, well, infants, they barely know what they're doing,

515
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Speaker 5: they can barely feed themselves, and they're on the verge

516
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Speaker 5: of wiping out their own planet like a bunch of

517
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Speaker 5: morons daily.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, daily. So I don't think anyone it put us away.

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Speaker 4: I'm quite sure if there is an alien intelligent entity race,

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Speaker 4: they're probably monitoring us. They're probably aware of us in

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Speaker 4: ways that we can't even imagine. I'm probably sure that

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Speaker 4: we've been visited. Now where that is in our timeline

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Speaker 4: of advanced civilization, or whether we're even considered advance by comparison,

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Speaker 4: who knows. But I always talk about this in a

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Speaker 4: very serious way. So, yeah, it would be ridiculous to

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Speaker 4: believe that we're the only ones in the vastness of

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Speaker 4: the universe. Even if you don't believe in a supreme being,

528
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Speaker 4: even if you don't believe in intelligent design, there's just

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Speaker 4: no way.

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Speaker 6: There's no way.

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Speaker 4: If you think that it happened organically on Earth, why

532
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Speaker 4: would it not happen organically somewhere else in this universe.

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Speaker 5: I've never really let me understood the logic behind intelligent

534
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Speaker 5: design because it seems to me like the argument is,

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Speaker 5: since we don't understand absolutely everything right now, we throw

536
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Speaker 5: out all our painstakingly accumulated knowledge and just chalk it

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Speaker 5: up to supernatural stuff.

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Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't say supernatural. Let me make the argument

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Speaker 4: for intelligent design. I look at the complexity of life

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Speaker 4: and how it is an organism which is actively involved

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Speaker 4: in survival, repairing itself and a level of self awareness

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Speaker 4: and in the sense of survival. That says to me,

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Speaker 4: it is unlike anything else that we know of What

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Speaker 4: I mean by that is the intricacies of life. Consciousness

545
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Speaker 4: to human body says to me. I don't believe it

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Speaker 4: happened by mere accident. And there are levels to this.

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Speaker 4: There are those who believe that we were created as

548
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Speaker 4: in God, that there was an omniscient, omnipresent being.

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Speaker 6: That's one level.

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Speaker 4: And there are those who believe that there was intelligent

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Speaker 4: design in the way that humans could create you know,

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Speaker 4: artificial life forms where it's intelligent design and we were

553
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Speaker 4: created and created with a purpose.

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Speaker 6: But we're not omniscient.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's an argument that has been made that

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Speaker 4: we were created, but it wasn't from an all powerful,

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Speaker 4: all knowing being.

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Speaker 6: There are different levels as far as the whole idea of.

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Speaker 4: Creationism, which is not necessarily biblical, which is not necessarily

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Speaker 4: supreme being.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're familiar with the.

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Speaker 5: Old Arthur C. Clark quote that anything that looks sufficiently advanced

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Speaker 5: that we don't understand can seem like magic. I think

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Speaker 5: that's kind of what we're doing when we make these arguments.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, but if we're sufficiently advanced, think about what

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Speaker 4: we're doing with just AI and robotics in the past

567
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Speaker 4: twenty years. What might that look like in a thousand years,

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Speaker 4: assuming we haven't destroyed ourselves at that point.

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Speaker 5: In a thousand we couldn't even predict. We couldn't even

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Speaker 5: predict a century from that.

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Speaker 4: But that's my point I'm saying, So, imagine a civilization

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Speaker 4: with a similar evolutionary path as humans and mastery of technology.

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Speaker 4: What it might be able to do if they just

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Speaker 4: advanced as humans did, but had an advanced civilization lifespan

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Speaker 4: of let's say, twenty thousand years, as opposed to our

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Speaker 4: only maybe two hundred years since the Industrial Revolution.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think what we all better hope is that

578
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Speaker 5: if there is another situation or another civilization monitoring us.

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Speaker 5: It's like Gary seven in that old Star Trek episode

580
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Speaker 5: where he's going to intervene before we wipe ourselves out.

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Speaker 4: I actually think using Star Trek. John Delancy, who played

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Speaker 4: Qah in Star Trek, he had a conversation with Picard.

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Speaker 4: He was saying, like, look, in about fifty two centuries,

584
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Speaker 4: the human race will evolve past the level of q

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Speaker 4: And I understood that because who knows where we might

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Speaker 4: be in five thousand, two hundred years, assuming we ascend

587
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Speaker 4: at the same trajectory. Just I'm amazed at what humans

588
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Speaker 4: have been able to do in the past forty years

589
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Speaker 4: thanks to computers. Just computers, and I think that has

590
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Speaker 4: exponentially increased the rate of advancement.

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Speaker 5: Do you think Tillie Norwood is the apex of our civilization?

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Speaker 6: Not at all, But it's.

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Speaker 4: Indicative of ways we can't even conceive of where our

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Speaker 4: civilization is going, in the way that we are determined

595
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Speaker 4: to replace ourselves on every single level visually, you know, theoretically, cognitively,

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Speaker 4: who knows where we might be. I just just give

597
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Speaker 4: you a round number. If our civilization should exist in

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Speaker 4: ten thousand years, there's no telling what we might be

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Speaker 4: capable of in ten thousand years, and we to the

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Speaker 4: Arthur C. Clark reference, who knows what we might create.

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Speaker 5: We're going to have such cool be days in ten

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Speaker 5: thousand years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I probably won't. We won't need one intendaight.

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Speaker 5: Now, you and Tauwala and all your GI issues, you're

605
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Speaker 5: gonna be set.

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Speaker 4: I won't have a GI issue in ten thousand years,

607
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Speaker 4: I'm sure now. And I'm not gonna be one of

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Speaker 4: those who's gonna live in a cryo chamber until they

609
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Speaker 4: come back and figure out how to cure whatever disease

610
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Speaker 4: I died of, or cure old age and find the

611
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Speaker 4: fountain of youth.

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Speaker 5: Well, the moment Tuola clones made from your remains will

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Speaker 5: have the best be days, God willing from your lips

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Speaker 5: to God there.

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Speaker 6: So yes, I'm a creationist. K IF I am six forty,

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Speaker 6: We're live everywhere. No Heart ready app

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Speaker 1: more stimulating,