1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: It is a victory Monday, everybody, welcome to it. Although 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: you know the six hours of Broncos react last night, 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: you'd be confused. 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Man, I know, I'm not trying to hear you griping 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: about six hours of radio flying marass across the pond. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: He get here on time? What you're talking about six hours? 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 3: Egg? 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you misunderstanding. 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. 10 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 4: I'm saying I really could in that time. Broncos fans 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 4: were mixed. 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: Well then they but and by the way, nice to 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 3: see both of they. I get it. 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's plenty to be mixed about on 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: that game. 16 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately they won the game. 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: And I said, coaches are hired and fired at that 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: level based on how many they win and how many 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: they lose. And the Broncos have won four six period 20 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: and they're tied for first NFC West. That said, though, 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: I think there's you know you, and I'm not telling 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: Sean or anybody on the staff how to coach football, 23 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: run football whatever. My opinion is, there are things that 24 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to You're gonna have to get fixed 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: offensively and special teams as well. 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: And I suspect that they will I suspect they will 27 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: as well. 28 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: Good to see you, Nick Ferguson. 29 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: Good to be seeing my friend. 30 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, sending me videos from burned Down yesterday. That was 31 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: pretty funny. Like we we're gonna give some love to 32 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the defense. We're gonna spend a lot of time talking 33 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: about the defense. They're awesome. 34 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: You know what. 35 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 5: I just wanted to put it out there as a reminder, okay, 36 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 5: as to what has been. 37 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: Happening, Like I forget the defense, like anybody could forget 38 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: the defense after what happened. 39 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 5: Well, to be totally honest, there's a number of people 40 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 5: who have forgotten the defense so much so that they 41 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 5: don't even mince him the name of the defensive coordinator. 42 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: I will not put those guys on blast. Let me 43 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: do it. Who are they? I can't, I'll do it. 44 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: I no sleep. I give two, I'll put them on. 45 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: I'll put anybody on blast. 46 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: Yes, we got Dave sleep the Pride and he's ready 47 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: to go. Man. 48 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: I was figuring out trying to trying to sleep a 49 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: little bit on the plane, which you don't. I mean, 50 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: number one, a guy on my side, that's hard to do. 51 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Number two, you know you're going to get back and 52 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: have to go to bed. So I figured when we 53 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: landed and then got in bed about I don't know, 54 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: three point thirty. Maybe that the wake up call Denver 55 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: time to do the game on Sunday was eleven pm 56 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: Saturday night, right at six am in the morning on Sunday. 57 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: You get to wake up call, hey, time to get up? 58 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: So what was I saying? No, I'm just kidding. So no, man, 59 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm good. 60 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I'm happy to be here the Broncos. Even 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: though there's things, yes, I acknowledge things to fix. I'm 62 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: fired up. It's they're four and two and getting ready 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: to host the Giants. I think this week, Fellas is 64 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: really critical and I don't have an idea. I mean, 65 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, many times, doing shows like this, you have 66 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: ideas about, hey, what's wrong with this and how do 67 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: you fix that? And you know you give them an opinion. 68 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't even have an opinion that would be valid 69 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: enough to state. In terms of how to maximize this 70 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: team getting ready for Sunday, I think you have to 71 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: be and they will be. I think careful, really careful, 72 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: even though these are young athletes that that's an arduous 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: trip to make and I think cutting back, and I'm 74 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: not sure how they'll do it. I'm sure Sean has 75 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: studied this with bo and others, but I think they'll 76 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: cut back and less is actually more in terms of 77 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: physical preparation. 78 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: This week, and we heard. 79 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: From Sean in the post game saying, no, we say 80 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: we don't want to buy after the London game. 81 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. Yeah, I didn't know that 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: until until he said that. But I mean they've done, 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: you know, studies. I'm not sure what they've studied or 84 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: where or whom, but they've done studies and they feel 85 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: like this is the best way to go. 86 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: At least it's a home game, right, so you're traveling, 87 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: You're not coming home and then traveling back out to 88 00:03:59,280 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: New York. 89 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 4: I mean think that would be that'd be rual. 90 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: By the way, But moments ago, Brian Branch on the 91 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: altercation last I guess to spend one game. 92 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so that just came down seconds ago. 93 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: Brian Branch in his game, in his game reminds me 94 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: of Nick. It's a compliment. It is a compliment. 95 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: I didn't take it as no because because Nick knows 96 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: Brian can play. 97 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a run support guy. He will. 98 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: He will come up and set you straight. I love 99 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: you know the passion he plays with. You can't do 100 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: you can't do what he did. I get it a 101 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: little bit, I really do. But you can't like when 102 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: you're walking by after the game, Yeah, Nick, try to 103 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: loosen the molars. 104 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: Come on, you know WHOA To me from my standpoint, 105 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 5: no it's not. But if I'm gonna do it, I'm 106 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 5: gonna do it well within the lines. I'm gonna play 107 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 5: between the whistles and allow Park Avenue to evaluate how 108 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: physical my play was. 109 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: Now. 110 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 5: Obviously, like you said, I love branching the style of play. 111 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 5: You can't really do that the way that he did it, 112 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 5: because no, he hurts his team, a team that's already 113 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 5: hurting from a secondary standpoint. Now they're down one more 114 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: good player. So to me, you take out your level 115 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 5: of frustration during the game. 116 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: And I think there was a. 117 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 5: Time where, if I'm not mistaking Patrick Mahomes scored and 118 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 5: he might have pointed and he might have flexed at Branch. 119 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 5: So when Mahomes went to extend his hand after the game, oh, 120 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 5: Branch was just like, no, we're not shaking hands. I'm 121 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 5: going straight to Juju. I'm giving him a two piece 122 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 5: and a biscuit. He gave it to him too. 123 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: You can't win without guys like that and assuredly, and 124 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: I know this. Dan Campbell loves Bryan Branch. 125 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: Now. 126 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: He said the right things in the postgame, like, listen, 127 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed, I apologize the Chiefs, apologize the League. I 128 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 2: think what he was trying to do is get ahead 129 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: of this as a head coach and maybe mitigate a 130 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: little bit of whatever might come out of it, which 131 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: he was enabled to do. 132 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: And I think the League did the right thing here. 133 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: But you, but Brian Branches is the heart and soul 134 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: of the second level part of that defense. Third level 135 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: actually yeah, and Juju took a cheap shot at him, 136 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: hit him right in the middle of the back. Yes, yeah, Safeties, listen, safeties. 137 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: I mean that's been going on for years. They don't 138 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: like that, man. I mean it's like, if you're going 139 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: to go clean up a safety, you better hit him 140 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: in the face. And they don't even like that because 141 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: they don't think they should be blocked by wide receivers. 142 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: But if you hit him in the back like that 143 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: and try to clean him and Juju. Juju does not 144 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: have the reputation in the league as being like one 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: of those guys. 146 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 3: This is just a tough, tough ass wide receiver. 147 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: He does not so to get cleaned up by a 148 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: guy's like, oh, okay, so this is how it's going 149 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: to be, right, Okay, you know he's. 150 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: The news coming out just a second ago is Mike 151 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: McCoy is going to be the interim head coach there 152 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. 153 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: So former Broncostly, former Chargers had coach. That's right. 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 5: So he's gonna he said former twice, so I guess 155 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 5: he will be. 156 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Acy have anything against McCoy, but you just you just 157 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: called him out for being former. 158 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: No, I just called I just didn't call him out, 159 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 5: but I just made like you made notes, yes that 160 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: you said calling him out because I didn't say that 161 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 5: he sucked. I just said you mentioned former, intimated that 162 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: he sucked. Not really, I didn't, you said, I said, Dave, 163 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 5: you mentioned former twice. Yes, so he's going to be 164 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: former third time. 165 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: But you're rubbing it in a little bit that he 166 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: you like. 167 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: You like Mike mccaff Mike Mike hitch up and texted 168 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: you and said what's up? Your response would be, what's up? Okay, 169 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: you must have been on that flight with me because 170 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: you're tired, you know what it is? 171 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Rockboord joins after four o'clock will talk about that. 172 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: Going back to the game, I think you're right, Dave, 173 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: it's a weird game. 174 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I think sometimes the London games are a bit squirrely 175 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: in that respect. But the biggest sticking point last night 176 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: through a lot of the fans was actually the play calling. 177 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I actually didn't get a lot of people calling out 178 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: bow Nicks for his play. Obviously a lot of left 179 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: of the defense Nick, of course, but the play calling, 180 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: especially in the second half, did it feel like it 181 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: was a little conservative to you when you were watching it? 182 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: I got to read this seven five nine five day 183 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: of enough whining about the jet lag Already some airline 184 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: crews do it every week. You're right, that's exactly right, 185 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: and I'm I'm glad I don't have to do it. 186 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: So to your question to bo Nicks, No, the play 187 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: calling in the second half, did you feel like it 188 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: was a bit conservative? 189 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: I felt like they couldn't get any sort of traction going. 190 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: I felt like they were completely out of rhythm, and 191 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: if you get out of rhythm as a team, to me, 192 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: you're out of rhythm as a play caller. Sometimes you 193 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: look at that big chart you have, I believe, and 194 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: you just can't anything that you like. And so when 195 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: you when you and Nicky's looking at the big chart, 196 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: when that's the case, you struggle, you're looking for anything. 197 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they you know, they they lined up Mems 198 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: in the backfield, hit him on a on a rail 199 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: route for a big first down on that drive that 200 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: ultimately led to their what turned out to be their 201 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: game winning field goal. But then they they lined him 202 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: up in the backfield and try to hand it off 203 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: to him on second and seven. 204 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: You know, that's one of those calls. I think that 205 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 3: if it works, then people are saying, I like that, 206 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: you know, let's get mimes more involved. I understand that. 207 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: But you know, I just think when you struggle the 208 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: way they did offensively and special teams, you're open for 209 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: all sorts of people to sit back after the fact 210 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: and evaluate the game. 211 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: And we do it and say, man oh man. 212 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: I mean at one point they had no first downs 213 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: in the second half and nine total yards of offense. 214 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: And I think that was right before again what turned 215 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: out to be the game winning drives. So they just 216 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, they couldn't get anything going up front. 217 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 5: See, sometimes that happens when you are doing too much. 218 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 5: And I'm a two fan of minimizing the play sheet 219 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: because what's the use of having so many plays and 220 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 5: you're not executing as well as you would like? And 221 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 5: for me, it's about now I look at it from 222 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 5: a different perspective, and I'm facing a opposing offense. What 223 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 5: is it that you do well? Focus on those things 224 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: that you do well. And you may have ten iterations 225 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: of one single play, right, that's just one play. You 226 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 5: change the formation, you flip the field. And it takes 227 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: me back to my time in Mike Shanahan and being 228 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 5: around Tye Shanahan. What is it that we do well? 229 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: What do you hang your hat on at the end 230 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: of the day. Let's do that. And here's what I 231 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: noticed of the past three games. 232 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 5: You go back to the coach games, the Chargers game 233 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 5: and the game against Member Philadelphia Philadelphia, the Charge and. 234 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: The game they played against the Jets. Here's what they did. 235 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: Consistently starting off. 236 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 5: The game with two back to back run plays, and 237 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 5: that first possession is about let's try to get the 238 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 5: run game established. Every possession after that, it's past century. 239 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: It's like, no, go back to your run game. But 240 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 5: I know coach Payton probably thought, well, we're not being 241 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 5: as successful in the run game, so let's go away 242 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 5: from it. 243 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: No stick with it. 244 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 5: Something is going to happen because if your quarterback is 245 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: in a shotgun eighty five percent of the plays, you 246 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: know what you tell your defense, we don't have to 247 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 5: play the run. 248 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: Just play the damn pass football on the center. 249 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 5: Whether you're successful or not, the bootkeep game is still 250 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 5: available to you, but you just can't bound on those plays. 251 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: I think sometimes after games like this there it feels 252 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: like from fans that needs like a dramatic over correction. 253 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: There were some things working with the offense leading into 254 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: this game, but those things really didn't show up. Now, 255 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Is that Dave an indication that hey, maybe the Jets, 256 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: who were more talented than they've been perfer is that 257 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: them kind of figuring some things out and the Broncos 258 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of fell into a game where they just happened 259 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: to get the best of the Jets defense in this 260 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: one game. I don't really know, but it did seem 261 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: like they could move the ball in the first half. 262 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: They just kept stubbing their toes on penalties, right, They 263 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: had a couple of bad holding calls, they had a 264 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: fall start. I mean it just it seems like just 265 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: when they would get something going, they would make some 266 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: kind of mistake. 267 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's accurate. I think that they didn't 268 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: play as well as we've seen them play up front. 269 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: I do think, and I believe I said it on 270 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: the broadcast too. You know, when you have a team 271 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: that is winless or a team that is down and 272 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: they stay in the game, they're just kind of close enough. 273 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: You know, when it was ten to six, the Broncos 274 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: moved the ball into Jets territory and I'm thinking, hey, 275 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: you score here seventeen to six, then that's that thing 276 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: starts to creep into the mind even of professional athletes, 277 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: like we're rowing five, now we're down eleven in London, 278 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: I mean, how how badly do you want to fight 279 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: to get out of this? But they didn't. They had 280 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: a couple penalties, wound up punting the football. Then all 281 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden, on the safety the Jets go in 282 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: front and you could just see the emotional lift that 283 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: that came now all of a sudden. The box, in 284 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: particular with the Jets, they're playing like crazy, like I mean, 285 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: they're bringing it, so you have created a monster that 286 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: you have to deal with. I just don't think they 287 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: they played very well. Penalties hurt them, you know, yet 288 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: a new left guard, and I do think it's fair 289 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: to wonder. Ben Powers may have struggled from time to 290 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: time and pass protection, but he was a good run blocker. 291 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: And I had this brought up to me on the 292 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 2: plane ride home this morning or yeah, last night, that 293 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: they're I will say, concerned, but there's wonder like, are 294 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: we going to have some sort of drop off from 295 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: a run game perspective At left guard. Matt part typically 296 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: is a tackle and he was moved into guard because 297 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: obviously the staff thought he was the best option. But 298 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: he had a couple of holding calls, he had a 299 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: false start penalty. I'm guessing he'll be better Sunday against 300 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: the Giants. The guy hadn't played very much, so again, 301 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: with plenty of things to dissect and break down and 302 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: wonder about, but four and two sounds pretty good after 303 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: what we've seen the last few years. 304 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt. 305 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: Do you make a correction there left guard? Do you 306 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: try to let that play? 307 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't. 308 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't know exactly what the 309 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: correction would be be like Calvin Throckmorton, probably, Well, let 310 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: me ask you, would you and if you say yes, 311 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say you based that on. 312 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: What I don't say yes, I say you let it 313 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: play for another game? And then and then if you're 314 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: seeing some similar problems, and it's also like are these 315 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: things correctable? 316 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: And technique right? Was? Was there something in his technique 317 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: that he wasn't either? 318 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: Following the coaching, Yeah, I thought the first holding call, 319 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt you, was really tiki techy. 320 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: I thought the second one was okay. 321 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: That's a hold here in that one's hearing that one. 322 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: Did you think Quinn Miners hold in the end zone 323 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: was offensive? 324 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: Linemen were not happy about that call. They said it 325 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: was an illegal technique, and I said, like, what was 326 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: illegal about it? They can't. 327 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: So their theory is you can't use your head as 328 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: a defensive lineman. And their theory is who is that Clemens? 329 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: I think Clemens put his head right into the chest. 330 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: He did well. They don't let you use your head 331 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: as a weapon as an offensive player. Now, I don't 332 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: know if that's technically by definition using the crown of 333 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: the helmet, but that was a couple of offensive lineman's 334 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: and it wasn't Miners a couple of offensive linemen. 335 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: After the game, that was their theory, but it was. 336 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: I didn't see, even though he got trucked, I didn't 337 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: really see a lot of holding going on. 338 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: The ball came out, and. 339 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: I mean, Clements was so powerful in that rush, I 340 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: don't think that Quinn even had a chance to hold. 341 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: Really. 342 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 5: See, there's a lot of things that go down in 343 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: that trench warfare, and we could sit there and talk about, well, 344 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: should a guy be allowed to put his helmet inside 345 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: an offensive guy's chests and driving back? But here's what 346 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 5: I know. 347 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: Also as a defensive god on the. 348 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 5: Snap of the ball, especially from a guard standpoint, I'm 349 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: just giving you the technique and what happens that they 350 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 5: kind of grab guys and pull them down by the 351 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: shoulder pads. So for me, inside that framework, there's a 352 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: lot of things that allow to happen. And it just 353 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 5: seemed as though, you know, Quinn in that situation very unfortunate. 354 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 5: But he was just overpowered. And I too have been 355 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: in that situation playing on the punt team. Someone overpowers you. 356 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 5: You don't want to give up a SAT, you don't 357 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: want to give up a block punt. So what you 358 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: do was is what comes natural. You grab and you hold. 359 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 5: But it cannot happen in that particular situation because that 360 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 5: led to two easy points that the Jets offense didn't 361 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 5: really work for. 362 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: They didn't even work for. I don't know if they 363 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: just scored another time. In fact, if it wasn't for 364 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: the fumble by Troy Franklin at the beginning of the 365 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: game and then the seventy two yard kickoff return, I mean, 366 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: how many points would they have come away with one drive? 367 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: The one drive that that got into field goal range 368 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: on their own, on their own merit, that's it. 369 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: And that was right out of halftime, you know. 370 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 5: But I think when we look at this game, you know, 371 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 5: celebrate what the Broncos were able to do. I don't 372 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 5: think there's anything wrong with admitting that the offense isn't 373 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 5: where it should be at this stage of the game, 374 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 5: but also admit the beauty of what we saw as 375 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 5: ugly as it was, and with me being a defensive guy, 376 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 5: I love what I saw on both sides. You saw 377 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 5: Steve Wilkins, who was the DC for the New York Jets. 378 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 5: His guys came to play Vans Joseph in a deep 379 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 5: Broncos defense. They came to play and the Broncos have 380 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 5: to be prepared for that because you face the Jets. 381 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: Are they their top tier team in the league. 382 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: No, But if you want to get to where you 383 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 5: need to, which is playoffs, and we started talking football, 384 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 5: you have to be able to compete and get yards 385 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 5: and penalties aside, you still have to be able to 386 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 5: move the ball against the festive units like that. 387 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 4: You really didn't like that we didn't talk more about 388 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: the defense here in this segment. 389 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: Huh. I'm perfectly fine, because I'm gonna talk about it 390 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: more myself. 391 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: Very quickly here before we start. Talk to yourself, Yeah, 392 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 4: to yourself. We will give them. 393 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: Love to them on the other side, in fact, I 394 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: want to talk about them and also in perspective of 395 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: what we saw from Justin Fields with Aaron Glenn talking 396 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: about Justin Fields, I want to get to that here 397 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: in a second, but just for a second, on the 398 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: left guard there. So to answer your question, Dave, I 399 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: probably let Purt play it again this week, but understand. 400 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: That I do have options that would be my mindset 401 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: if I'm the coaching staff. 402 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm yeah, I mean, I'm good with that because 403 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: you go quick cook on a guy I just don't know. 404 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: And I would challenge anybody out there that now wants 405 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: to really go all in on Calvin Throckmorton at left 406 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: guard over Matt Parrett. I'm just gonna say, okay, based 407 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: on what I mean, I was at every practice about 408 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: ninety percent of the practices this summer, and I don't know. 409 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not sure, So I'm going to defer 410 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: to them on that one. My guess is what you said, Ryan, 411 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: I think will happen. I think Parrott will get another 412 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 2: start and then we'll see kind of where he goes. 413 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: You put them on the short lease, like here's what 414 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: Bill Parcels were doing the situation. He would tell you, listen, 415 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 5: if you can't play, whether it's rock Morton, here's another guy, 416 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go. I get and if you don't play, well, 417 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 5: you're gonna be out of here. 418 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: We're off early here on victory Monday when we come back. 419 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: If you want to talk about the defense, give them 420 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: some love. Nick, I know that you're here and very 421 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: antsy about that. Plus we'll hear from Aaron Glenn on 422 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: Justin Fields a little bit of a change of heart today. 423 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: We'll explain next every team the FC West one last weekend. 424 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: No, it's it's the truth, man, And uh yeah, the 425 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: Titans of course fire their coach as a result of that. 426 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: But last week the Broncos won and everybody lost. It 427 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: was great, the best of times. And here we are 428 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: watching the Chiefs the Chargers come back and win against 429 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Here to a tongue of myloa, Yeah, throwing 430 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: his teammates under the bus very quickly. 431 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: Here, I do want to play you thereon Glenn stuff. 432 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: But here's to a tongue of Aloa after the game 433 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: throwing the rest of the Dolphins teammates under the bus. 434 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 6: Well, I think it starts with the leadership and helping 435 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 6: articulate that for the guys, and then what we're expecting 436 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 6: out of the guys, right, we're expecting this? 437 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: Are we getting that? Are we not getting that? 438 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: We have guys showing up to player only meetings, late, 439 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 6: guys not showing up to player only meeting, Like, there's 440 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 6: a lot that goes into that. 441 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not 442 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: have to make this mandatory? 443 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 6: So so it's it's a lot of uh, it's a 444 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 6: lot of things of that nature that we got to 445 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 6: get cleaned up. 446 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: And it starts with the little things like that. To 447 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: be clear, you're saying some players or late or missed late. 448 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess Dashawn Hailton, our guy or a Bronco 449 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver said the first meeting that he ever had 450 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: in his short time with the Dolphins, Tuoa was late 451 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: to that meeting. 452 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 2: So you've got to be careful. Obviously, I think TWOA 453 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: has taken a lot of grief about this. I think 454 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 2: he's probably trying to say the right things and set 455 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: an example. But when it comes to anything connected to 456 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: your teammates, you're better off not saying anything. You're better 457 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: off simply talking about yourself. I've got to do a 458 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: better job in leadership or setting an example or what 459 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: have you, because invariably, I mean, no matter what you 460 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: say about a teammate, if it's not in a positive way, 461 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: you're you're in trouble. 462 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: So I don't know wouldnor to his comments. 463 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 5: Yeah I did. And for me, that was a player 464 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 5: who was very frustrated with the way that things are 465 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: at one in five and we've seen individuals take shots 466 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 5: at two from a national standpoint. Your favorite broadcast showing 467 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 5: the full letter network, Ryan Clark. 468 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: Loves to talk about it. 469 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, your favorite player, you know, loves to talk about 470 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 5: you know, two taled a low, but two of was 471 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 5: just even. He was just vincing it and Mike Botney 472 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 5: Dave was right, that's not the appropriate moment to do it. 473 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 5: But I can understand toois frustration to actually kind of 474 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: reveal family business publicly, because if you're going to have 475 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 5: a team only meeting guys, you can't show up to 476 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 5: that meeting late. 477 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: So that was a guy who just was being very outspoken. 478 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: And it just seems as though. 479 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: We now live in a world where you know, Cam 480 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: Wore was very outspoken, Mike Tomlin very canted, outspoken, and 481 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 5: two jump right into it. 482 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: Wait, he's not getting killed for being outspoken. He's getting 483 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: killed for throwing his teammates under the bus. 484 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: You know what, I know. 485 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: I listened to Dave, I know that's not what we 486 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: were supposed to do because there's a covenant, there's a 487 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 5: rule that you can't violate. 488 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: But sometimes things get to a point. 489 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 5: Where you're like, you know what, I need to let 490 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 5: people know what's going on, and sometimes you have to 491 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 5: call people out publicly. The reason I say that because 492 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 5: Mike sand Ahead would never do it. Bill Parcells, on 493 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 5: the other hand, he will because he's trying to send 494 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 5: a message. 495 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: So you don't like it or not, two of us 496 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: trying to send a message. It's one thing. 497 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: It's one thing for head coach to do it because 498 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: he's got the hammer, and Parcels, by all accounts, wielded that. 499 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: Hammer he needed to. 500 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: Well, yes, but I think it's another thing for for 501 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: anybody as a player. I just think you have to 502 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: be real careful. And I think to again, and I've 503 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: I've always liked Tua. I know that some people don't. 504 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: I know he didn't have a great arm and they're 505 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: off to a one to five. 506 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 3: I get that. 507 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: I watch him, but I've always liked him how he's 508 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: handled himself. But I think, again, you've got to be 509 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: really careful when you're talking about your teammates in any 510 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: regard that could be construed as being negative. 511 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: You bet. 512 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: I mean even if you're even if you're the acknowledged 513 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: leader of that team, like Josh Allen. I mean, everybody 514 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: knows whose team that is, right, I mean Josh Allen 515 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: if he comes out after tonight's game in Atlanta and 516 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: starts talking about, you know, the offensive line, I mean, 517 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: I've got to get more protection. I've got to do. 518 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: You know, we didn't. We didn't show up for a 519 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: team meeting. That's not going to be received well. And 520 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: he's the leader of that team. I don't know that 521 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: Tua is acknowledged in that locker room as being definitely 522 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: the leader of the team. 523 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 5: And that's probably why he did it because usually, whether 524 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 5: it's done tastefully or not, a majority of the times, 525 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 5: the starting quarterback is presumed as being the face of 526 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 5: the franchise, the leader. But it is case not for 527 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 5: all everything that you know they just said. So now 528 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: other individuals are giving that title as being the leader, 529 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: and those individuals are not leading as well as they should. 530 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: And you can tell by what's happening. 531 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 5: Okay, So there was a situation where the defense was 532 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: kind of struggling, right, and the DIF was a coordinator 533 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 5: told see that there was obvious issues that guys, someone 534 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: had kind of given up, So at some point someone's 535 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 5: got to say something. Obviously you want to keep it 536 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 5: behind closed doors, but at times things leak out, and 537 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 5: sometimes they need to leak out to put people on notice, 538 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 5: because if you don't put them on notice, things are 539 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 5: going to continue the same way that they are. And 540 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 5: I think toos feeling as though, you know what, my 541 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 5: time with the Miami Dolphins is probably. 542 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: Coming to a close. 543 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 5: So I'm not going to keep my mouth shut anymore. 544 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell the family business. 545 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: I uh, well, guess listen, I understand everything as you're saying. 546 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: I think it de sided a little bit more where 547 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: Dave's going on this. Once again, I didn't play the game, now, 548 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: did I? 549 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 5: All? Right? 550 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: Hey, I do want to stay on the quarterback here 551 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 4: and talk about justin fields? 552 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: Wow? Justin fields? 553 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: Uh so nat Net passing, that's uh, that's the thing 554 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: we saw in that game yesterday. Dave, where do you 555 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: go if you're the Jets just for a moment here 556 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: when we're gonna talk more about the Broncos as we 557 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: go on. But Aaron Glenn last night a little defensive 558 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: when he asked if he's thinking about going with a 559 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: different quarterback. 560 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: Is he going to be your quarterback next week? Or 561 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: would you just say? What kind of question is that? 562 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: Look, he did not have a big game. 563 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a fair question. There's a 564 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: number of. 565 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 7: Guys that, you know, I mean sometimes this league is 566 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 7: like this and there are guys that have bad games. 567 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean you just binge them going you know 568 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: better than that. 569 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: Okay, So that's so. 570 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: Then you have an international flight, you're back in New York, 571 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: maybe a little sleep deprived, who knows. 572 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 4: And this was his response today when asked about this. 573 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: No, what here's what you know. I thought about this 574 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: a lot last night. I thought I WoT the question 575 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: that was asked. 576 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 7: And when you look at what Justin did the games 577 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 7: that he played, Listen, I didn't think he was bad 578 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 7: at all. I actually thought he did some pretty good 579 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 7: things and those four games. In this fifth game, he 580 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 7: took a step back, you know, And I'm with you, guys, 581 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 7: and we can't have that, you know, we have to 582 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 7: get better than that. 583 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: And he knows that, and he knows that better than 584 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: anyone you know. 585 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 7: So I don't think you just try to bench a 586 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 7: player after having one true bad game, because I thought 587 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 7: the other games he played fairly well. 588 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 4: All right, So what you reaction that day. 589 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: I've heard nothing but good things about Aaron Glenn. Thought 590 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: he was a hell of a player. I mean, he 591 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: is highly regarded in the league. I would never ever 592 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 2: say in a postgame press conference or press conference at 593 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: all that I agree with you guys meeting members of 594 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: members of the press who were writing tough things, bad 595 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 2: things about my quarterback. I mean, I just would never 596 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: do that. And now I think he's fine if he 597 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: wants to say. Listen, I reviewed the films. I reviewed 598 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: the film Flying Over the Pond last night, and hey, 599 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: we didn't play well, and Justin didn't play well, and 600 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: none of us played well enough really to beat a 601 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: good team in Denver. But when it's not your and again, 602 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: I like Aaron Glynn, but it's not his job to 603 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: try to endear himself to the members of the media. 604 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: You know, I completely agree with you, guys. Oh that's 605 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: first that i'd heard that. But when I heard it, 606 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: I cringed. 607 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: But it does tell you that, you know, he looked 608 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: at the tape and Justin was not good yesterday, but 609 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: neither was the Jets offense in general. I mean, the 610 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: running game was okay with breist Hall. You got to 611 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: complete a few passes, and you got to get the 612 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: ball to Garrett Wilson. I mean, I think anybody could 613 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: figure that out. 614 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 5: If I'm Aaron, what I would have said was watching 615 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 5: his tape back, I saw a couple of things that 616 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 5: Justin could have done well, or we could have done 617 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 5: a better job offensively helping him out in some of 618 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: those tough situations that we put him in. So that way, 619 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 5: you were collectively putting everyone in the same boat. You're 620 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: taking some of the negative energy away from him, because, 621 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 5: like I told you doing the break, I think it's 622 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: highly unfair to just criticize fields and say, well, he 623 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: had a worse day based on the Jets offense not 624 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 5: being able to move the ball because the receivers didn't 625 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 5: fight to get open. Dave said, try to find ways 626 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 5: to get the ball to to Gary Wilson. That's what 627 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 5: they did entirely too freaking much. And that's you saw 628 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 5: the quarterback trying to find Gary Wilson. Way he should 629 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 5: have relied on other weapons. I completely who you throwing to. 630 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 5: If you're not throwing to Garrett Wilson. 631 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 3: Well try a way to throw someone else, because name 632 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: anybody else I'm trying to throw the ball to Garrett. 633 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: Well okay, well you have Mason Taylor, who's on the 634 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 5: on that team, who's a rookie, You're tight end. They 635 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 5: threw the ball to Josh Reynolds, who's another option, made a. 636 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: Couple of caps, So it bails down to this. You 637 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: don't have any damn options. 638 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: Okay, again, I don't disagree with that, but I'm I'm 639 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: at times when you have a quarterback, like justin fields, 640 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: there there will until he sort of if he ever 641 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: develops sort of in the big picture, there's gonna be 642 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: times when I say, as the coordinator, hey, we're running this, 643 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: this and this, stay on Garrett, Stay on Garrett, and 644 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: if you go back and look there, I mean there's 645 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: sometimes that Garret Wilson has a little bit of room, 646 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: but the ball's delivered behind him, it's delivered late, and 647 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: with PS two you're dead. 648 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 5: If that's the case. See what you said was very 649 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 5: little time. That's exactly the way that I saw it. 650 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: Was very little time. That the quarterback had to deliver 651 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: the ball. What I said was throw the ball to 652 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson. That's what I said, And it's going to 653 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: be not damn well. 654 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: How was it going to the other guys? They had 655 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: minus ten yards of passing? Me and you and Ryan, well, 656 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: me and you. 657 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: On the attext line. Are you guys thinking that Bonis 658 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: had a better game yesterday? If they have Righty had 659 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: a better game. Yeah, Bodis had a better game than 660 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: Justin Fields. 661 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: He had a better game than taking nine sacks and 662 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: throwing for net minus ten yards. 663 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 4: I can feel very confident in that assessment. 664 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: That's great that you. 665 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 5: Can give that accurate of an expert. 666 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: Ye, don't you don't think Bonis had a better game 667 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 4: than Justin Field's absolutely? 668 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, because he wasn't playing against the never Broncos defense. 669 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: This is just as he played. He played. 670 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: He didn't played great yesterday. I'm not going to try 671 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: to make that argument, but he was better than justin 672 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: Field statistically. Absolutely. Wait, just more than that, he's he's 673 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: a he can actually playquarterback in this league. Listen, Ben, 674 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: I give been so much crap, justifiably really, but he 675 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: was right about justin fields? 676 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 5: How right was being about justin fields when you really 677 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 5: are not? You know, you're seeing a player that's not 678 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 5: as heavily supported. 679 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: Dude, he's got a true wide receiver one in Garrett Wilson. 680 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: He's got a true RB one in Breist Hall. 681 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 5: And you gave me two players typically eleven players on 682 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 5: the field, the quarterbacks that had. 683 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: To work with less. 684 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: Yes, he's got he's got plenty. 685 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: What quarterbacks have to work with left don't get. 686 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: A true wide receiver one. Look what's going on with 687 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans right now? 688 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? 689 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: What you're talking about? The Titans who have for the 690 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: past eight years have been a mess? 691 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 5: Do you know? I mean you want to talk about you. 692 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 5: I guess you want to throw the Cleveland Browns in 693 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 5: there too as well. 694 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 4: I think it's a good example. 695 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 5: Yes, hot mess, Yeah, Nashville, Nashville, hot mess, chicken. 696 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: How about that? 697 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: Whatever you want to call it anyways, But the point 698 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: of it is is he's got plenty. He's got enough 699 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: to be better than. 700 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 5: No, he does not. 701 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: Part of the problem. 702 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: That's what I was trying to tell Dave, is the 703 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 5: fact that you and and and not tweeted at Kurt 704 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: Warner because Kurt Warner said, well, he was holding on 705 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 5: to the ball too long. And I wanted to say Kurt, 706 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: and I wish I could have jumped through the screen. 707 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: Kurt. 708 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 4: Did he know something about quarterbacking? 709 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 5: Yes? 710 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: And I know something about playing defense too. How about that? 711 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 5: I know that The fact is when you have a 712 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 5: mundy pocket and ever you have hands in your face, 713 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 5: you could you could take the clicker, pause the frame 714 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 5: and in the film and say, look this guy is open. Well, listen, look, 715 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 5: take a look at the quarterback. What's happening to him 716 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 5: right now? Can't he step. 717 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: Up in the pocket? 718 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: Actually, Kurt Waterer last night. 719 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 5: Right, can't he step up in the pocket? This is 720 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 5: what I think, And it happens. Happened to justin Phil's yesterday, 721 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 5: but it happens to a lot of quarterbacks. People are 722 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 5: being real being unrealistic about those expectations and the talent 723 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: around that particular player. 724 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 3: You're wrong.