1 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm. 2 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: All right, here we go, eight o'clock hour underwait. Thanks 3 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: for hanging out tonight today, Wednesday, out of Sports Talk, 4 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: the eve of Reds Opening Day. Thanks for tuning in 5 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: to RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: My next guest, Man oh Man. He grew up in 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: South Bend. 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: He moved to Cincinnati when he was twelve, and nineteen 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: sixty eight, went from having a Pete Rose poster on 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: his bedroom wall and a die hard fan to covering 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: the Reds a week after graduating from Miami University. You 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: may remember we talked to him back in October, and 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: with the fiftieth anniversary a season of the seventy six 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: Big Red Machine about to begin, what better time to 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: visit with him again. The book is My Big Red Machine, 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: The Tails, Drama and Revelations of a fan term journalist 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: covering Baseball's greatest team. What a treat to Welcome back 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: to Sports Talk. Terrence Moore, how are you hey? 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 4: I'm doing quite well. Last and you speak about fans, 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: My brother Dennis and his wife Stephanie up there in 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 4: Mount Healthy They're huge fans of yours and they're listening 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: right now with relatives and friends. 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: Oh that is fantastic, That is really cool. 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: You know. 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: In getting ready to talk with you, there are so 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: many things in the book. I could talk to you 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: for hours, and it was hard to boil it down 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: to a couple. But what I want to start with 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: because I laughed out loud when I read it because 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: I felt the same way you mentioned that nagging element 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: going into the seventy six season of the way the 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: national media had perceived the seventy five Reds in the 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: World Series and then the Reds gone and just dominate 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: the seventy six season. 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: Well. Yeah, And the thing that's so unfortunate about that 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 4: that there are many people to this day who will 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: tell you that the Reds only won the nineteen seventy 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: six World Series because the rest of the world outside 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: of Cincinnati think that when that guy hits that home 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: run at twelve thirty three am, when's the October twenty second, 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 4: nineteen thirty. 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 5: Five, that the boss one and they did not win it? 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: And I'm talking about Froulton Fist. And here the thing last, Okay, 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 5: I was very full, as you know from reading the book, 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 5: to Joe Morgan. Yes, and when Joe Morgan was not on. 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: Camera, then let's just say he didn't exactly sound like 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: a Sunday school teacher. If you wanted to see Joel's 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 4: head explode. Missed the seventy five World Series and when 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: of the first thing's gonna mention is what we're talking about. 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: Oh fantastic, man. I felt that when I read it. 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: Take me to November of nineteen seventy five, and at 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: all places we're going to Mallett Hall and Joe Nuxall 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: sitting in the stands as a RedHawks fan. Tell me 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: about that moment and how he he contributed to one 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: of the most important days of your life. 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: Eventually, he really did. And I'm in school at the time, 57 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 4: you know, just a sophomore in Miami, and I see 58 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: him in the sands, and anybody that was a reds 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: fan back in those days, Joe Nuxshall was as important 60 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: as anybody who played on the Big Red Machine. So 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: I see him in the sands, and I'm a writer 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: for the Minus student newspaper, so I wanted to do 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: an interview with him, and he said, well, instead of 64 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 4: doing it here, why don't you wait until and this 65 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: is again, this is November, so why don't you wait 66 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: to the season, which would have been in nineteen seventy six, 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: the regular season, and interviewed me in the press box. 68 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: And my first reaction was is he trying to blow 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: me off? And then looking back in hindsight, oh my gosh, 70 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: Jill Nuxhall was so omniscient. He was doing me a favor. 71 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: He would he did everything possible to give me acclimated 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: to the big leagues in a hurry. And it started 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: with getting me a press credential to you know, get 74 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: into the press box and later into the clubhouse to 75 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: see my guys. And that's all Jill Nuxhall And. 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: What are your guys? And he was so keen with 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: names and memory and and tell me about meeting Pete 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: Rose in the clubhouse and Pete how he reacted to you. 79 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm getting chilled right now because I mean, 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: you can tell I'm reading this book is a book 81 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: of passion. Yes, Pete Rose my all time favorite player. 82 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: And I go a lot of long ways with this. 83 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: I'll give you the short version. So I'm in the 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: clubhouse May fourteenth, nineteen seventy six, okay, Friday, that's righty. 85 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: I I almost leaven the time, and I'm in the 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: club house now. I see everybody you know on the 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: big roub machine, but I'm not seeing my guy, Pete Rose. 88 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: I'm getting ready to leave. Pete Rose comes up and 89 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: introduces himself to me and asking my name, and I'm 90 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 4: just nervous, you know, I thought him a faint and uh. 91 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: He said, okay, I've said like to Terry Moore and 92 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: I told him I was, you know, sophomore at Mia University. 93 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: And this is what he says. Last. He says, oh, 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: you'll be working at the Sistet in Enquirre someday. Okay. 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: Jumping ahead. The year after that, I get an internship 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: at the Sistant Inquire in nineteen seventy seven. He comes 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: up to me in the club false. He says, how's going, 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: Terry working for the FI yet? And I said, I'm 99 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: just another term, so you'll be there full time? Sure enough. 100 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: I graduated from Miami on May seventh, nineteen seventy eight. 101 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 4: A week later, I'm working full time assistant inquir and 102 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: neimeless say. The first, the first column or article I 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: ever did in my life was on Pete Rose in 104 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: a soft drink, which was awful, by the way, But 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: I've been at Club Foals. You know, if Peter Rowles says, 106 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: how's going, Terry, I said, I'm working for an inquirer. 107 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: Now he says, I know, I know. Hell Peter Rose. 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: That really was our guest. Terrence Moore is checking in. 109 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: The book is a must read if you're a Reds fan. 110 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: My big Red. 111 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Machine and I Love You talked extensively with the legendary 112 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: general manager Bob Howsen, who should be in the Hall 113 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: of Fame. 114 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: That's another story. 115 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he told you so many things that 116 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: I think nobody had ever heard before, including when when 117 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: they were trounced by the Orioles in seventy a veteran 118 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: mature Baltimore team. He can that are dealing for another 119 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: team's first baseman, and man, the dominoes that could have 120 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: fallen if that had. 121 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: Happened, walk us through that. 122 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and I'll start with this lance 123 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: Marty Brenneman, whoeverybody knows, said that there's so many revelations 124 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 4: in this book. And Marty said, like seventy five percent 125 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: of what I got in this book has ever been 126 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: written before, including this What's up with Bob Housen? So 127 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: Ron Fairley. Ron Fairley was a journeyman first baseman, spent 128 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: a lot of time with the Doctors who went the 129 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 4: four World Series. So Bob Houser told me, and I 130 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: almost you know, I just painted again when he told 131 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: me this, that he wanted to trade for Ron Fairley 132 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: to play first base because, as you say, he thought 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: that they needed some veteran presence. And when you think 134 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 4: about that big machine in nineteen seventy, arguably the only 135 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: guy the top of my head who had any World 136 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 4: Series experience with Bobby Tolan, but two years with the 137 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: Saint Louis Cardinals when they went to the World Series. 138 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: So anyway, here's a big picture. Think more would have happened. 139 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: They would have got Ron Fairley at first. Two things 140 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: would not have happened. The greatest trade in the history 141 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: history of baseball, and perhaps Tony Press as a Hall 142 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: of Famer. I'll tell you why I say this, Joe 143 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: Morgan says our Geronimo, Jack Billingham, Dennis Mackey, and Armbrussler 144 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: for the New Resk fans, you know who go back 145 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: in history it's like, okay, but you know what, the 146 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: only reason they were able to get those guys was 147 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: because after the nineteen seventy season, Bob Holton traded the 148 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: right side of the nfield Lee May and Tommy Helms 149 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: to Houston Ansels for those guys. That would not have 150 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: happened because they would not have had Lee May to 151 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: trade May. Obviously, if Ron Fairley comes to place first base, 152 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: and God knows that Lee Ma can only play first base, 153 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: he would have been gone somewhere. And then the twenty 154 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: Press thing. Tony Prez was at third base, and we 155 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: all loved Tony, but let's face it, Tony was a 156 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: butcher at third base, okay, and why they had moved 157 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: in the first base and prolonged his career. If Tony 158 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: Press had to hit a third base with on Fairly 159 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: at first or whoever would would have been there, you 160 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: can look a case that Tony Press probably wouldn't have 161 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 4: played as much, you know, big error prone at third base, 162 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: probably wouldn't have hit as many home runs, and then 163 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 4: likewise would not have been in the Hall of Fame. 164 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: Wow, unbelievable. There's a story I need you to tell. 165 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: In a picture I need you to paint. Take me 166 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: back to a day you entered the Inquirer building and 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: you you see an individual describe his dress at that 168 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: point and what he was there to say and do. 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 4: Okay, now this is over time newspapers for those of them, 170 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: I mean, these days don't exist anymore. But it's like 171 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 4: late at night and I come to the old Inquiry 172 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 4: building over there on Vine Street and it's like this 173 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: heavy set guy wearing overalls and dirty work boots and 174 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: he had either a straw or let's just say for 175 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: a fact, a piece of straw in his mouth, looking 176 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: very comfortable in the lobby, and he wanted to get 177 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: up to the office. I said, oh, I can take 178 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: you up there again. This is what never happened nowadays, 179 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 4: I mean, because of security would have it. So I'm 180 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: thinking about, you know, he's not saying anything in elevator. 181 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: I have no idea what he wants, you know. And 182 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 4: so we get to the sports staff and we're all 183 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: gathered around him and he's telling us that Woody Friman 184 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: and for those who don't know, Woody Fireman was the 185 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 4: primary guy that the Reds acquired from the Montreal ex 186 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: Boles and probably the worst train in intervening baseball when 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: they traded twenty PRIs up to the nineteen seventy sixth 188 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: World Series to the Montreal ex Bows. But the Woody 189 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: Fireman character who was like old and you know, and 190 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: just the in effect of what had as Sparky Anderson 191 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: just hated us. I didn't like it, and probably Sparky 192 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 4: hated him, Sparky the manager because he wasn't twenty Press 193 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 4: That's be honest, that's part of it. So anyway, so 194 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: that this old timer up there and overall he says 195 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: this wood he's left the team and he's gone back 196 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: to the farm in Kentucky. And it was telling the truth. 197 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: But at the time we had no idea. We thought 198 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: this was just some dude just but what do you five? Actually, 199 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: I left the team and so this this character gave 200 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: us a school. 201 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: Oh that is unreal. Unreal. 202 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: Well, well, let's stay in the newsroom because I want 203 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: you to relate a day where you and everybody in 204 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: the newsroom found out that that Sparky was was gone, 205 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: he was fired. 206 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: What was that moment? 207 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 4: Like this was and last I've now been a professional 208 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 4: sports journalist for nearly fifty years, and this is in 209 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: the top five most shocking things I can recall. So 210 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: It's November in nineteen seventy eight and I'm sitting around 211 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: the newsroom the sports office, I should say, well everybody else, 212 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: and one of the systems sports headers puts up the 213 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: phone and he puts his hand over the receiver and 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: he says, Sparky's gone. And I'm thinking to myself, what 215 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: he's smarty stid, Oh my god. But he meant that 216 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: he was fired. I mean, this was inconceivable. They fired 217 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: Sparky Anderson. And then, as you know back then, I 218 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: mean that was that was one of the biggest Spurts 219 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 4: stories in the history of Cincinnati at the time until 220 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: a few weeks later a guy named Pete rose Side. 221 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: The freezing deal with the Philadelphia Phillies was only slightly 222 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: top Sparties. But those two things right there went a 223 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: long way to killing the big Rip machine, no doubt 224 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: about that. 225 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: Hey, before I have you tell listeners how they can 226 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: get the book, I got to ask you. 227 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: I know you're going to. 228 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: Speak proudly of the magical season of your Miami RedHawks 229 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: and basketball this year, how about that season? 230 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: You know you're talking about chills. And there have been 231 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: three great moments in history of Miami basketball, this one, 232 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: the thirty two and two run. I mean, you know, 233 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter that they lost it at the end. 234 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: The thirty two and two run is great. The Wali 235 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: World Wally Zerbiak Sweet sixteen miracle in nineteen ninety nine. 236 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: And then in my senior year at Miami, and I 237 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: don't want people forget this nineteen seventy eight old mine 238 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: in Ohio first round on the NCAA Tournament. I was 239 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: there at Mark Store in and in Indianapolis. We defeated 240 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: defending national champion champions Marquette with four returning starters and 241 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: the player of the year of bush LEAs. So those 242 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: are the three great moments in its reminded basketball. And 243 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: we just totally win this one just a few weeks ago, 244 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: a few days ago. 245 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, what a fun season, it was, all right. 246 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: So tell everybody what the book has just played, the 247 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: rave reviews. You've been invited back to Cooperstown this summer. 248 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: Tell everybody how they can get their hands on this book. 249 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,479 Speaker 2: My big red machine. 250 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: Well you can get it directly from me. We get 251 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 4: in a lot of different places, but if you get 252 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: it directly from me. Here's a website. Okay, the website 253 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: is real easy to remember, my bigredmachine dot com. How 254 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 4: about that? So if you go to that website and 255 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: it comes directly with me, and I will miss alize 256 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: the book for you, and people are amazed how quickly 257 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: I turned it around and get that book to you. 258 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 4: And you can get it in either paper or hardcover. 259 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 4: If you only get to hardcover from me, you get 260 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: to the paperback on Amazon and bookstores and at Joseph 261 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: Best and now the Hall of Fame, the best Baseball 262 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame has it. If you get it directly 263 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: from me, you can either the hardcover or the paperback, 264 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: and I would gladly get it to you quickly. 265 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: It is such a wonderful read. 266 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: I read it and I feel like I'm living inside 267 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: the book with everything you have said about this team, 268 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: my team, your team, our team is just I'm so 269 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: happy for your success with the book. I'm so glad 270 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: we could hook up again, and I hope we can 271 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: do it again down the road. 272 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much. And like I said, I'll 273 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: be in Cooperstown in June. They're flying me out out there. 274 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: To talk about the book and do a book signing. 275 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: And last, this is the second time in three years. 276 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 4: I've been to cooper Sound. They flew me out two 277 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: years ago from my Hank Aaron book. And I'll just 278 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: tell you this real quick. I'm a Baseball Hall of 279 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: Fame voter. I've they had business nineteen ninety and until 280 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 4: I went to Cooperstown two years ago from Hank Aaron book, 281 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: I had never been to cooper Sound. Not going for 282 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 4: the second time in three years. How about that? Oh Man, 283 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: good for you. Wow. 284 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: I am so happy for your success and what a treat. 285 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: It is an honor to speak with you again. And 286 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: thanks for making time tonight. 287 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: Yes, and my brother and his wife they appreciate. 288 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: It too, and I appreciate them. Listen, and Terrence, thank you, 289 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: take care, thank you. All right, there you go. Terrence 290 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: more Man, Well. 291 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: I love talking with him. I could literally sit here. 292 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: I can do an entire show just talking about the book.