Speaker 1: All right, here we go back on the Big One,
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Speaker 1: Thursday night edition of the Midweek Crisis five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: eight hundred the Big One. Joe Waddell is running the
Speaker 1: big board in the seven hundred WLW command center, and
Speaker 1: Joe Waddell informs me, I've got the Philadelphia Phillies at
Speaker 1: the Lakers game on Uh. Los Angeles seeds the series
Speaker 1: two to one. They're in the tenth inning that would
Speaker 1: be commonly known as extra innings. And uh, Joe, how
Speaker 1: long ago was it they started this ghost runner stuff?
Speaker 1: It's not like twenty twenty. I want to think this
Speaker 1: had to do with the wuhan or something like that,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty Full Time implemented twenty twenty two. I do
Speaker 1: not like the idea at all of a ghost runner.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like Little league baseball. You know,
Speaker 1: if if Major League Baseball, and I was I was
Speaker 1: not planning on starting with this tonight at all. If
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball keeps going the way it's going, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have a nine batter rule like Little league baseball.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a mercy rule it's gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got the pitch clock already, they've got the designated
Speaker 1: hitter in the National League, and and and all stuff
Speaker 1: that I've sort of come to come to come to
Speaker 1: terms with. But this notion of the ghost runner needs
Speaker 1: to go away. If it's good, it's good enough for
Speaker 1: the regular season, but it's not good enough for the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Why is that? Why do you change?
Speaker 1: Why are there different rules for the playoffs than there
Speaker 1: are for the regular season. To me, it just screams
Speaker 1: how illegitimate this idea is. They need to get rid
Speaker 1: of it. Period. Look if I'm watching a baseball game
Speaker 1: and that baseball game goes to extra innings and it
Speaker 1: takes ten or eleven or fifteen or sixteen or eighteen
Speaker 1: or nineteen innings, and so be it. I know it
Speaker 1: strains the pitching staff and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: But not good enough for the playoffs, but good enough
Speaker 1: for the regular season. Terrible, terrible thing, all right. The
Speaker 1: teacher James is hate in life. She's been indicted on
Speaker 1: bank fraud charges. Grand jury approve those charges earlier today.
Speaker 1: The indictment followed Federal Housing and Finance Agency director Bill
Speaker 1: POLTI making a criminal referral to the Justice Department. Miss
Speaker 1: James has in multiple instances falsified bank documents allegedly and
Speaker 1: property records to acquire government backed assistants and loans and
Speaker 1: more favorable terms. Where have we heard that before? Where
Speaker 1: have we heard that before? When she was prosecuting Donald
Speaker 1: Trump on the exact same thing she was she was
Speaker 1: wont to say no one is above the law, and
Speaker 1: now it's coming back for her. But you know, look, right, hey,
Speaker 1: Trump had a trial, We're going to have a trial
Speaker 1: on this. Let the ships fall where they met. What
Speaker 1: else is going on? Big debate tonight. You've got aftab
Speaker 1: Purvall up against Corey Bowman. That's for the Cincinnati mayor.
Speaker 1: I send a message to Corey Bowman, wish him well
Speaker 1: in the debate, and if he is so inclined, he
Speaker 1: may call in. I don't know what time that debate
Speaker 1: gets over, but I've got guessed in the ten o'clock hour,
Speaker 1: so I believe that debate is taking place as we speak,
Speaker 1: So maybe in the eleven o'clock hour, if he's so inclined,
Speaker 1: he'll call in and give us an update on how
Speaker 1: the debate goes tonight. Also, there's a debate going on
Speaker 1: in Virginia and that is pitting winsome Seers against this
Speaker 1: Abigail Spamberger, who is just a total dits, total left
Speaker 1: wing lunatic who should not be elected in Virginia. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm going I want to do something right. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about Trump. I talked to my Middle East
Speaker 1: experts earlier today and they are optimistic about the peace
Speaker 1: plan that is going on between between Hamas and Israel.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We cannot forget that that a rock main remains uh
Speaker 1: not a rock, but Iran may remains a major player there.
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's it's waiting to see there are
Speaker 1: there's a large Palestinian population that lives inside of Jordan,
Speaker 1: so they have a vested interest on on what happens here.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Uh there. There's still a lot of
Speaker 1: countries and a lot of leaders over there that's that
Speaker 1: simply hate Israel, and the whole idea that they're all
Speaker 1: going to go along with this is that it's just hard.
Speaker 1: There's a lot there, there's a lot of wheels turning
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that I don't know that none of
Speaker 1: us know, and it's going to be absolutely fascinating, I
Speaker 1: think when the details come to light on this, about
Speaker 1: how all this came to pass. So this is just
Speaker 1: another example of but it cannot be stressed enough to
Speaker 1: my way of thinking, just how unbelievable the leadership of
Speaker 1: Trump has been in this area. This guy wants piece
Speaker 1: more than anything else, and he is willing to do
Speaker 1: anything it takes to get peace. And so I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that last night when I, you know, when
Speaker 1: this deal broke, and then I came across a piece
Speaker 1: today written by Julian Sinclair. I do not know who
Speaker 1: Julian Sinclair is. This is obviously a person who knows
Speaker 1: a lot more about international affairs than most of us.
Speaker 1: And the title of this piece is the Trump Piece
Speaker 1: Bonanza you Haven't heard of? So I saw that headline
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, what is the Trump piece Bonanza
Speaker 1: that I have not heard of? And so I'm going
Speaker 1: to read this piece. And while I'm doing this, I
Speaker 1: want you to, if if you're able to, because I've
Speaker 1: done it, because I have so little familiarity with these areas.
Speaker 1: I want you to pull up a map of Azerbijan
Speaker 1: and Armenia, and I want you to find the city
Speaker 1: of Bac who it's back, who's easy to find? It
Speaker 1: sticks out there in the Caspian Sea. And then you go, oh, gosh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, six or seven hundred miles west to
Speaker 1: a city called Cars k A R S. And you know,
Speaker 1: and and and this this kind of gives you perspective
Speaker 1: on what this piece is talking about. But stick with
Speaker 1: me on this. I think I found this fascinating as
Speaker 1: I was reading this earlier today, and I certainly hope
Speaker 1: you will too. Uh And Julian Sinclair writes. Azerbaijan Armedia,
Speaker 1: Cavan and Senek are not named. Most Americans are familiar with, however,
Speaker 1: The Trip t ri IPP, which stands for the Trump
Speaker 1: Route for International Peace and Prosperity. The Trip corridor runs
Speaker 1: through these countries, cities and regions, is a decisive strategic
Speaker 1: move in the Caucasus in Central Asia against three US
Speaker 1: adversaries at once China, Russia and Iran. The Trip will
Speaker 1: link the city of Cars in Turkey to the port
Speaker 1: city of Baku in Azerbaijan. Baku is the most important
Speaker 1: port city in the Caspian Sea, an inland sea connecting
Speaker 1: Azerbaijan directly to Turkmenistan and Kazakistan. Together, these countries have
Speaker 1: proven oil reserves of thirty seven billion barrels thirty seven
Speaker 1: billion barrels, slightly more than the entire higher US proven
Speaker 1: reserve at thirty five billion. When Hitler invaded the Soviet
Speaker 1: Union in June of nineteen forty one, his rhetorical justification
Speaker 1: was secondary to his need to secure the Caucasan oil
Speaker 1: fields of Azerbaijan and Central Asia. At the time, Germany's
Speaker 1: only significant access to oil was from Romania, which was
Speaker 1: insufficient for the needs of Germany and its occupied countries.
Speaker 1: The famed Battle of Stalingrad was fought to secure the
Speaker 1: Volga River for its access to the Caspian oil and
Speaker 1: as a launch point for an invasion to capture the
Speaker 1: port of Baku and its oil trade. It could be
Speaker 1: said that Hitler's push in the Eastern Front into the
Speaker 1: Eastern Front, whose ultimate failure lost in the war, was
Speaker 1: driven in large part by the need to secure the
Speaker 1: region's oil. Despite the rhetoric condemning the twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: Russian invasions of Ukraine, the EU purchased twenty one point
Speaker 1: nine billion euros worth of fossil fuels from Russia in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four alone, far less than pre twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two levels, compared to spending eighteen point seven billion euros,
Speaker 1: are sending eighteen point seven billion euros in financial aid
Speaker 1: to Ukraine. Europe's need for fossil fuels has trumpets desire
Speaker 1: to oppose Putin's Russia enter the Trump Route for international
Speaker 1: peace and prosperity the trip. This is a rail line
Speaker 1: that has the potential to unlock fifty to one hundred
Speaker 1: billion dollars in annual trade by twenty twenty seven, a
Speaker 1: significant portion of which will be in fossil fuels. The
Speaker 1: rail from Baku to Kars, Turkey will allow the oil
Speaker 1: and natural gas exports of Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Kazakistan to
Speaker 1: enter the Mediterranean and then to Europe without passing through
Speaker 1: Russia or Iran as before. So this rail that Trump
Speaker 1: has created will allow this oil to flow directly to
Speaker 1: the Caspian Sea, without passing through Russia, without passing through Iran.
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted you to look at them. Fifteen
Speaker 1: percent or I'm saying fifteen to twenty percent of Russia's
Speaker 1: GDP is from fossil fuels and thirty to fifty percent
Speaker 1: of its budget comes from fossil fuels. By opening the
Speaker 1: Caucasus and Caspian oil to the world without the need
Speaker 1: to transit Russia or Iran, President Trumps seriously undermined a
Speaker 1: geopolitical opponent without firing a shot or starting another regime
Speaker 1: change war. In fact, the trip is part of a
Speaker 1: peace negotiate, a peace deal negotiated between Azerbaijan and Armenia,
Speaker 1: with the US leasing a twenty seven mile stretch of
Speaker 1: the railway in Armenia's Site Senior Providence, effectively underwriting Armenian
Speaker 1: security without deploying US troops. Not only does the trip
Speaker 1: give the US the influence in a region of the
Speaker 1: southern flank of Russia and the northern flank of Iran,
Speaker 1: but it also undermines China's Belt and Roade initiative. China
Speaker 1: has long dreamed of creating a Middle Quarter, a four
Speaker 1: thousand mile trade path from China to Europe. Trump's link
Speaker 1: from Central Asia to the Mediterranean undermines China's most important
Speaker 1: soft power program, creating a transit route that aligns with
Speaker 1: US interests The trip involves no deployment of US forces
Speaker 1: and will be solely managed by private, non military organizations
Speaker 1: without a single soldier or jet fighter. President Trump has
Speaker 1: delivered a decisive strategic advantage against three US adversaries at
Speaker 1: the same time. Although its purpose is non military, the
Speaker 1: railway also has the potential to be used for military
Speaker 1: purposes should Russia, China, or Iran decide to go to
Speaker 1: war with the United States. The Caucasus in Central Asia
Speaker 1: have mostly been out of US reach without the use
Speaker 1: of expensive airpower and supporting ground troops there in. The
Speaker 1: numbers required would make a difference in potential global conflict,
Speaker 1: and it would be prohibitively expensive. With a capacity of
Speaker 1: fifty million tons of cargo per year, the trip could
Speaker 1: hypothetically support the transit of over one hundred thirty thousand
Speaker 1: tons of supplies per day. A US infantry division in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five requires approximately one thousand, one hundred tons
Speaker 1: of supplies per day, meaning multiple divisions and their supporting
Speaker 1: air power could be deployed to the region. These units
Speaker 1: could cause severe issues for Russia, Iran, and China should
Speaker 1: the unfortunate need arise. The mirrorability to deploy significant US
Speaker 1: forces to Central Asia and the Caucuses acts as a
Speaker 1: deterrent against Iran, Russia, and China, thus decreasing the likelihood
Speaker 1: of war. In a conflict with China centered on Taiwan
Speaker 1: and Southeast Asia Waters, China could be forced to deploy
Speaker 1: significant numbers of troops and supplies to Xixiang Province, where
Speaker 1: China is currently committing a genocide against native wigers on
Speaker 1: Kazakistan's eastern border, diverting them from China's Pacific coast, which
Speaker 1: would be the decisive theater of said conflict. President Trump
Speaker 1: has delivered a major economic blow to our geopolitical adversaries
Speaker 1: without fighting a single costly war. By negotiating peace between
Speaker 1: our media and Azerbaijan. He has created a competing trand
Speaker 1: route for Caspian oil and significantly, we can China's belt
Speaker 1: and wrote initiative. That's the piece by Julian Sinclair. So
Speaker 1: you hear all the time about how Trump is about
Speaker 1: peace and economic development. The phrase Ronald Reagan used was
Speaker 1: called peace through strength. This is what it looks like.
Speaker 1: This is peace through strength. There is no way on
Speaker 1: God's green earth. And it was all over the news
Speaker 1: today there is no way that Joe Biden was ever
Speaker 1: going to get a Middle East peace deal done like
Speaker 1: the one that we are witnessing right now, and god
Speaker 1: forbid that it falls apart and being look, those possibilities
Speaker 1: are very real. But along the way, Trump has solved
Speaker 1: a handful of wars. I believe the number is eight.
Speaker 1: This is one of them, Armenia and Azerbaijan. Not only
Speaker 1: did he bring an end to that conflict, he at
Speaker 1: the same time, by creating this Trump route for an
Speaker 1: international peace and prosperity, has also in a major way,
Speaker 1: undermined the abilities of Iran, Russia, and China to fight
Speaker 1: against the United States. This is what Trump is doing
Speaker 1: when he's up at one am, at two am, at
Speaker 1: three am. This is the kind of stuff that he
Speaker 1: is thinking about. Is this is this is what serious
Speaker 1: leadership looks like. I wasn't planning on starting the show
Speaker 1: with this tonight, but I thought it was important coming
Speaker 1: up after the news at the bottom of the hour
Speaker 1: or John Lott is going to be here and we're
Speaker 1: going to hear more about why why the numbers of
Speaker 1: armed civilians who stop craze shooters. It doesn't get accurately reported,
Speaker 1: so that more coming up on the Thursday night edition
Speaker 1: of The Midweek Crisis on seven hundred WLW seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW nine, Dan Carroll till midnight tonight, Thursday night edition
Speaker 1: of the Midweek Crisis. Glad to be here. So glad
Speaker 1: you are here as well. I don't talk about guns
Speaker 1: a lot on this show, but what I do I
Speaker 1: like to have doctor John Lott on. Doctor John Lott
Speaker 1: is the founder of the Crime Prevention Research Center and
Speaker 1: it has just done a ton of research on guns
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. And I saw this
Speaker 1: headline a day or so ago and I thought, man,
Speaker 1: I really want to have him on to talk about this.
Speaker 1: And the headline is this armed citizens stop far more
Speaker 1: active shooters than the FBI said a new report reveals,
Speaker 1: And doctor John Locke, welcome again to seven hundred WW.
Speaker 3: Greod to talk to you again. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you're here. This is a subject that
Speaker 1: you have been talking about for how long now, more
Speaker 1: than a decade at least, have you not?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I actually wrote my first academic article on
Speaker 3: the problems with the FBI active shooting data fifteen. It
Speaker 3: was published and I continued working on it. When I
Speaker 3: worked in the US Department of Justice, when I was
Speaker 3: Senior Advisor Research and Statistics, one of my tasks was
Speaker 3: to look at the possible errors in the FBI active
Speaker 3: shooting reports.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is something that that you have discovered
Speaker 1: goes on on a regular basis. And even when you
Speaker 1: when you point out and I guess have a chance
Speaker 1: to talk. I don't know who you talk to in
Speaker 1: the FBI about this, but when you when you're able
Speaker 1: to bring this to their attention, they are reluctant to
Speaker 1: change those numbers. Have you been able to figure out
Speaker 1: why that is so?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's kind of hard to get in
Speaker 3: people's minds and they you know, but here's the big problem,
Speaker 3: and think you're touching on it, and that is even
Speaker 3: when you get them to agree that their data is incomplete,
Speaker 3: even when you get them to admit that they've missed something,
Speaker 3: they don't fix it. There are two types of errors
Speaker 3: in what the FBI does. One it's misclassified cases. So
Speaker 3: for example, you have something like the church shooting outside
Speaker 3: of Fort Worth, Texas in December twenty nineteen, they say, well,
Speaker 3: it was the security guard that stopped the attack there. Well,
Speaker 3: actually it was just a parishioner that was there. The
Speaker 3: church said, anybody who has a permanent concealed handgun can
Speaker 3: go and carry on church property. We don't even know
Speaker 3: exactly how many people were carrying then, it could have
Speaker 3: been like eighteen or twenty. All I can say is
Speaker 3: the attacker picked the wrong church to go after. And
Speaker 3: then there are just lots of cases that they miss,
Speaker 3: and they just tend to miss one type of case.
Speaker 3: So the FBI claims between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty
Speaker 3: four there were fourteen cases where legally armed civilian with
Speaker 3: a concealed carry permit stopped what they call an active
Speaker 3: shooting case. An active shooting case is an instance where
Speaker 3: a gun fired in public, not part of some other
Speaker 3: type of crime like a robbery or a gang fight
Speaker 3: over drug turf, anything from one person being shot at
Speaker 3: and missed, all the way up to a mass publisher.
Speaker 3: And so they say that over those eleven years, about
Speaker 3: four percent of the active shooting cases, fourteen of these
Speaker 3: three hundred plus that they have, we're stopped by illegally
Speaker 3: armed civilians. We think that the right number is rather
Speaker 3: than fourteen, is two hundred and two, and so rather
Speaker 3: than rather than four percent, we think that it's actually
Speaker 3: about thirty six percent. The problem is also though the
Speaker 3: erres have gotten worse in the last couple of years,
Speaker 3: the FBI claims that there has not been one single
Speaker 3: active shooting attack anywhere in the United States it's been
Speaker 3: stopped by illegally armed civilian. And you know, if you
Speaker 3: look at the data for twenty twenty four, for example,
Speaker 3: they claim of zero. We think it's forty eight percent
Speaker 3: of the active shooting attacks were stopped. And one argument
Speaker 3: that I had when I was working the Department of
Speaker 3: Justice with the FBI people was that, look, guys, if
Speaker 3: you're talking about law abiding citizens stopping these attacks, you
Speaker 3: have to separate out places where they're legally allowed to
Speaker 3: carry from places where they're not legally allowed to carry,
Speaker 3: these so called gun free zones. You can't expect a
Speaker 3: law abiding citizen to carry a permanent, concealed handgun into
Speaker 3: a place where it's illegal for them to carry the gun.
Speaker 3: And if you separate out those gun free zones, what
Speaker 3: you find that about sixty three percent of the active
Speaker 3: shooting cases last year were actually stop in places they
Speaker 3: were allowed to carry by legally armed civilians. Sixty three
Speaker 3: percent is a lot different than zero and so, and
Speaker 3: nobody needs to take our work for these cases. We
Speaker 3: have them listed on our website as well as links
Speaker 3: to the underlying information about each case. People can go
Speaker 3: and check them themselves to make sure that they match
Speaker 3: the FBI definition. The thing that police departments don't collect
Speaker 3: this data. What they have to do is they hired
Speaker 3: some researchers down at Texas State University to go and
Speaker 3: do a Google News search of all things. But we
Speaker 3: don't know how many many millions of dollars they've spent
Speaker 3: on this. They won't say, but it's in the many
Speaker 3: millions of dollars. And they just seem to miss these
Speaker 3: one types of cases where civilians would have.
Speaker 1: Stopped these attacks.
Speaker 3: And you know, even when the Washington Post or others
Speaker 3: have reached out to the FBI with our lists to
Speaker 3: try to get them to say, you know, why aren't
Speaker 3: you including these, the FBI itself will not respond and
Speaker 3: will not explain this. When I was working in the
Speaker 3: Department of Justice, the FBI without really explaining anything other
Speaker 3: than acknowledging that their data wasn't complete. Basically, wouldn't even
Speaker 3: respond to people in the Department of Justice. They're be
Speaker 3: part of it was the fact that I was a
Speaker 3: political point who was going to be out when Trump
Speaker 3: left office in January twenty twenty one, and I think
Speaker 3: they just wanted to run out the clock rather than
Speaker 3: having to deal with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't want an FBI that has anything
Speaker 1: to do with politics, do we. We've got far too
Speaker 1: much of that going on. But it just strikes me
Speaker 1: that if it is a worthwhile endeavor to catalog these
Speaker 1: crimes and look at the numbers that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: isn't it also worthwhile to have those numbers reflect the
Speaker 1: truth of the matter. And it just seems to me
Speaker 1: like that is a secondary consideration here. And you talked
Speaker 1: about the research and researching. That was one of the
Speaker 1: things I wanted to ask you when when you're looking
Speaker 1: at this through the Crime Prevention Research Center, how difficult
Speaker 1: is it to obtain this information? How how painstaking is
Speaker 1: this research to look at all these different events and
Speaker 1: and and get to the truth of the matter on
Speaker 1: these things.
Speaker 3: Well, it takes time, and you know, we've probably we
Speaker 3: haven't spent many millions of dollars on this, like the
Speaker 3: FBI spent on it. I mean, we've spent maybe tens
Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars on it. But even though we've
Speaker 3: haven't spent anywhere near as much, and I don't claim
Speaker 3: that I've found all the cases that they may have missed,
Speaker 3: but even with our much smaller budget, we found two
Speaker 3: hundred and two cases versus the fourteen that they claimed
Speaker 3: that they had found. But, you know, to get take
Speaker 3: kind of your earlier point, you know, why is this important? Well,
Speaker 3: I mean academics use this all the time for their research.
Speaker 3: You have news reports and piece that I wrote up
Speaker 3: referenced pieces from the New York Times and Marshton Post
Speaker 3: and associated press that had headlines based on this FBI
Speaker 3: data saying that, you know, people rarely use guns concealed
Speaker 3: carry to stop these active shooting attacks. You have court
Speaker 3: cases around the country that rely on this FBI data.
Speaker 3: You have legislative debates in places like the federal government
Speaker 3: in Washington to various state legislatures that go and deal
Speaker 3: with this. And you know, a lot of this has
Speaker 3: to do with things like gun free zones. You know,
Speaker 3: when you go through this and you see the large
Speaker 3: number of cases of active shooting cases, so mass public
Speaker 3: shootings are ones where four more people are killed. You know,
Speaker 3: what you find is about ninety two percent of mass
Speaker 3: public shootings occur in gun free zones. And it's not
Speaker 3: too surprising that the ones where you're seeing a lot
Speaker 3: of people killed keep on occurring in places where guns
Speaker 3: are banned. You know, anybody who has read the diaries
Speaker 3: and manifestos for these mass murderers, like the Catholic school
Speaker 3: shooter in Minneapolis in August, you know he writes explicitly
Speaker 3: in his manifesto, and he's not unique. On our website
Speaker 3: at crimeresearch dot org, we've recorded literally several dozen statements
Speaker 3: from these mass murderers over the years. I mean, he writes, quote,
Speaker 3: I recently heard a rumor that James Holmes, the Aurora
Speaker 3: theater shooter, may have chosen venues that were quote gun
Speaker 3: free zones end quote. I would probably aim the same way.
Speaker 3: Holmes wanted to make sure his victims would be unarmed.
Speaker 3: That's why I and many others like schools so much.
Speaker 3: At least for me, I am focused on them. Adam
Speaker 3: Lanza is my reason. Adam Anzo did the Sandy Hook killer.
Speaker 3: But it's not just the target, even the time of day.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to go and attack early in the
Speaker 3: morning when parents were dropping off kids or in the
Speaker 3: afternoon when they're picking them up, because he was worried
Speaker 3: that a parent might have a concealed carry permit and
Speaker 3: might use it to go and stop his attack, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's you have quotes from the Nashville Covenant school
Speaker 3: shooter or a Buffalo supermarket attacker, or on and on
Speaker 3: and on where these guys, you know. So the thing
Speaker 3: that drives me nuts is that after the Minneapolis case,
Speaker 3: for example, no one in the media mentioned that he
Speaker 3: had picked the target because it was a gun pri zone,
Speaker 3: and they would speculate that, well, maybe he did the
Speaker 3: school because his mom used to work there. Well it's possible,
Speaker 3: and talk about that and his manifesto. What he talks
Speaker 3: about is the fact is the gun for his own.
Speaker 3: Or they'll go and they'll say things like, well, you know.
Speaker 4: This guy.
Speaker 2: Was you know he.
Speaker 3: Talked a lot about other school shooters, or that he
Speaker 3: talked about other mass murderers, And that's true, he did.
Speaker 3: But the reason why he talked about them was because
Speaker 3: he was learning them about where to go and attack.
Speaker 3: And it's one of my biggest pet peeves is how
Speaker 3: the media will clearly read the diaries of manifestos but
Speaker 3: absolutely refuse to talk about why they picked the targets
Speaker 3: that they do. And I don't know, you're in the
Speaker 3: news business, maybe he can explain to me. But it's
Speaker 3: always been I would think that that would be extremely
Speaker 3: newsworthy for the media to go and say. Yet we've
Speaker 3: had yet another mass murder where the person expl delicitly
Speaker 3: explained that he picked this target because he wanted to
Speaker 3: go to a place where his victims were unarmed.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree. I couldn't agree with you more that
Speaker 1: that that part of the equation always seems to get
Speaker 1: left out of the story. And even if some of
Speaker 1: these there's so many of these cases where they simply
Speaker 1: disappear from the news, but even the ones that have
Speaker 1: legs and ones that stick around for a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time, it seems that that that part of the
Speaker 1: story never seems to make it into the reporting that
Speaker 1: the majority of the people UH see here and reed.
Speaker 1: So it it just seems like there's an agenda behind
Speaker 1: all of this, and why while you're talking about this
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about an old phrase, and it's it's it's old,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a cliche, and they say cliches
Speaker 1: or cliches because they're true. But I think about, you know,
Speaker 1: an armed and armed society is a polite society. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the more I see reporting like
Speaker 1: like you're doing here and these kind of numbers and
Speaker 1: just the refusal to actually tell the truth about this,
Speaker 1: the more I think that, you know, that old cliche
Speaker 1: just keeps proving itself to be true time and time again,
Speaker 1: that if if, if, if, these individuals who carry these
Speaker 1: shootings out, not all of them, but by and large
Speaker 1: a vast majority of them, they seek out these targets
Speaker 1: because they know the likelihood they're not going to get
Speaker 1: resistances there and they'll be able to do you know,
Speaker 1: their their names are going to be spoken all across
Speaker 1: the country, and they're going to get the headlines and
Speaker 1: they're going to have some some note of infamy about themselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh exactly, all right, Well we got to stop it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we we got we got to
Speaker 1: stop it, and just it. It doesn't seem that hard
Speaker 1: that reasonable, Well people could sit down and get to
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter and then let the chips
Speaker 1: fall where they may and deal with the issues after that.
Speaker 1: So just being honest about it, it seems like it's
Speaker 1: a bridge too far, And I don't know why. If
Speaker 1: people want to find out more about you, doctor Lott
Speaker 1: and the Crime Prevention Research Center, how do they do that.
Speaker 3: They can find everything we've talked about on our website
Speaker 3: at crimeresearch dot org. Crimeresearch dot org.
Speaker 1: All right, doctor Lott, always great to have you on.
Speaker 1: I always appreciate the time and keep up the great work.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: All Right, there you go, doctor John Lott of the
Speaker 1: Crime Prevention Research Center. Is it so hard to look
Speaker 1: at the numbers and say, look, we're researching this just
Speaker 1: like it, And that is exactly what he's doing. They're
Speaker 1: just saying, we're researching this just like you are. You
Speaker 1: want to talk about me. We've got to come up
Speaker 1: with a clear definition of mass shootings and look at
Speaker 1: the reasons why shooters do this, and look at how
Speaker 1: these shooters eventually get stopped. And if they get stopped
Speaker 1: by law enforcement, that's great. If they get stopped by
Speaker 1: an armed citizen who happened to be in the right
Speaker 1: place in the right time, was able to get the
Speaker 1: drop on the shooter. Why can't we report that accurately?
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot more anecdotal evidence that we see out there.
Speaker 1: You know, when I'm looking at my social media, I
Speaker 1: see videos all the time from convenience stores and other places,
Speaker 1: jewelry stores. Some would be thug pulls out a gun
Speaker 1: and winds up wishing he didn't because someone else got
Speaker 1: the drop on it. Nine to fifty four, We got
Speaker 1: to get to a break. Who's coming up top of
Speaker 1: the hour? Then after the top of the hour, we'll
Speaker 1: be talking with who are we talking with? Tell me
Speaker 1: let me find mine, let me find my list here
Speaker 1: Josh Manning from the Western Journal, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: the Middle East peace deal as we roll on on
Speaker 1: this Thursday Night, Thursday Night edition of The Midweek Crisis
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW, I got a big one, seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW ten eight damn carroll till midnight tonight. If
Speaker 1: we call this show the Midweek Crisis Thursday Night Edition
Speaker 1: every Wednesday and Thursday Night, Baby Rocking and Rolling till
Speaker 1: midnight and I've got one of my all time favorite
Speaker 1: guests on from the Western Journal website that I look
Speaker 1: at all the time and follow all the all the
Speaker 1: big stories that are happening out there, my buddy Josh
Speaker 1: Manning from the Western Journal. And Josh, great to have
Speaker 1: you on the show tonight. And how you doing, man,
Speaker 1: I'm doing well.
Speaker 4: It's always a pleasure, man. I'm you know, I'm looking
Speaker 4: forward to having a president who gets the Nobel Peace
Speaker 4: Prize because he actually did something that's gonna be nice.
Speaker 4: We hadn't had that in a while.
Speaker 1: It's the one who got the Peace Prize before him,
Speaker 1: BARACKO Bob. I mean, he was really showed himself, I think,
Speaker 1: to be the bigger person that he is by putting
Speaker 1: out that complimentary statement that he put out earlier today.
Speaker 1: Don't you think he really went the extra mile to
Speaker 1: show himself to be the great statesman that he really is.
Speaker 4: What a toddler. I just I go back to this
Speaker 4: over and over again.
Speaker 5: Dan.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm an assignment editor with Western, so I'm
Speaker 4: sending notes all over the place all day. Hey here,
Speaker 4: let's take a look at this. Here's the way to
Speaker 4: cover this. And one of my refrains for the last
Speaker 4: two months has been this is what toddlers do, and
Speaker 4: it doesn't It helps that I have a granddaughter, a
Speaker 4: toddler granddaughter living with me, and so I am reminded
Speaker 4: daily about what toddlers are. And toddlers want what they
Speaker 4: want right when they want it. If they don't get it,
Speaker 4: they pitch a fit. And here's the bad thing. They
Speaker 4: don't think more than two seconds ahead of themselves. So
Speaker 4: they want things that will literally kill them. And if
Speaker 4: you will give those things to them, they'll use them
Speaker 4: to kill themselves. And that is what democrats are doing,
Speaker 4: ripped large right now. They are toddlers stamping their feet
Speaker 4: because we will not give them the tools they need
Speaker 4: to take the Republic down. Sorry, how's that for an opener?
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. But you know Obama comes out and
Speaker 1: talks about the conflict and you know, the unimaginable loss
Speaker 1: and the suffering for these he can't bring himself to
Speaker 1: put the name Donald Trump in his congratulatory statement, can't
Speaker 1: bring himself to be in fact, he just acts like
Speaker 1: like this just is something that occurred naturally and we
Speaker 1: should all be happy about it. And they and he
Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't want to give He don't want to
Speaker 1: give any credit to that, and Yahoo don't want to
Speaker 1: give any credit to Jared Kushin. I don't want to give
Speaker 1: any credit to the people who actually did the hard
Speaker 1: work that that the Biden administration couldn't do.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I mean, you know, good, good
Speaker 1: for Obama that he put out a statement on it.
Speaker 6: You know what, I what I love is it not
Speaker 6: even Obama is a big enough liar or spinmeister that
Speaker 6: he tried to bring Joe Biden into it. And to
Speaker 6: say Joe Biden laid wonderful ground not even he tried that.
Speaker 6: You know, he's silent, not only on Trump.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anyone trying to make I was looking
Speaker 1: for it all day today that Joe Biden laid the
Speaker 1: groundwork and blowed because you know, it wasn't Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Isn't that all we heard about Joe Biden, that his
Speaker 1: foreign policy experience was going to take this country to
Speaker 1: a new level, a new level of respect. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: a new level of you know, the world Genuflex being
Speaker 1: at the feet of Joe Biden because of his vast
Speaker 1: foreign policy experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy who had been wrong on literally every
Speaker 4: single foreign policy decision for forty four years. And not
Speaker 4: only that, not only was there supposually that vast experience Dan,
Speaker 4: Remember the grown ups were in charge again. All of
Speaker 4: a sudden, we were told that, oh the children, you know,
Speaker 4: it's protection. They called Trumpet Toddler. The children are out
Speaker 4: of the White House now in twenty twenty and in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, we'll have the adults back in control.
Speaker 4: And what did the adults do?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: They got Ukraine invaded, they got a the bloodiest ground
Speaker 4: war in Europe since World War Two, and they got
Speaker 4: the bloodiest conflict in the Middle East since least the
Speaker 4: Iran Iraq War. So that's what, Yeah, that's what his
Speaker 4: vast experience, Joe Biden's vast sperience got us. What did
Speaker 4: Trump's inexperience He wasn't a politician, he wasn't a diplomat.
Speaker 4: What did that get us? The first time around? It
Speaker 4: got us the Abraham Accords, It got us closer to
Speaker 4: peace in the Middle East than we have ever been.
Speaker 4: And now less than a year in to Trump forty seven,
Speaker 4: it looks and I'm trying to I'm trying to be
Speaker 4: careful with this, Dan, because the hamaflies, the Palestinians cannot
Speaker 4: be trusted even a little bit, and they may try
Speaker 4: to reneg on this. Yet in fact, they will try.
Speaker 4: They will try to reneg on it at some point.
Speaker 4: It's just a question whether or not they do it
Speaker 4: before the hostages or exchange. So I'm trying not to
Speaker 4: get my help hopes up too high, because man, well,
Speaker 4: I guess it really doesn't matter because the media, being
Speaker 4: staggeringly is clearly being about this right now. But as
Speaker 4: soon as there is a whiff of a problem, you know,
Speaker 4: they will turn on They'll turn on Trump like us.
Speaker 1: Got a blood but that But that's what you know.
Speaker 1: When when I asked you to be on the show tonight,
Speaker 1: I asked myself, how is Josh Manning processing this? That
Speaker 1: that it's a twenty point piece plan. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of moving parts going on here. I think the behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, when the behind the scenes of this negotiation
Speaker 1: that got us to the point where we're at right
Speaker 1: now is going to be fascinating, too, absolutely fascinating to
Speaker 1: so to read that and and find out how this
Speaker 1: negotiation came to pass and to get us to the
Speaker 1: point where we're at now. But the notion that that
Speaker 1: Homas is going to lay down its weapons, agree to
Speaker 1: be peaceful. Uh, we know, whatever remains of Hamas at
Speaker 1: this point, what happens to them that they're you know,
Speaker 1: Israel is going to release all these hardcore terrorists and
Speaker 1: they're going to be back back in the mix.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Can you get your head around the note that Hamas
Speaker 1: is simply going to dissolve or go away or you know,
Speaker 1: start running, Yeah, you know, start running you know food
Speaker 1: carts or food trucks and you know, be part of
Speaker 1: the great redevelopment there in Gaza.
Speaker 4: Well, they do have experience with food trucks. They steal
Speaker 4: them all the time and play to your strength. That's
Speaker 4: what I always say. Uh yeah, So I think what
Speaker 4: will happen? I am having trouble getting my head around it.
Speaker 4: It is there are a ton of moving parts, as
Speaker 4: you said, uh, as far as the Hamas east of it.
Speaker 4: I think what's going to happen is that what or
Speaker 4: maybe one hundred or so left who were really involved
Speaker 4: in October seventh there. I think they will essentially be exiled.
Speaker 4: They will leave Gaza, They will leave that area and
Speaker 4: find shelter in Uh, I would guess in Iran, but
Speaker 4: I don't know the As far as the terrorists who
Speaker 4: are being released from Israeli prisons and the hostage exchange,
Speaker 4: I would guess that the same thing is true of them.
Speaker 4: And this idea of having an international board. I'm more
Speaker 4: skeptical of international I g o's international governmental organizations like
Speaker 4: the UN or League of Nations or whatever. But the
Speaker 4: idea of having all the stakeholders in that area having
Speaker 4: a vote in control of Gaza, with Trump running the
Speaker 4: whole darn thing, I think that's probably a good one,
Speaker 4: because every the the Amaradis want peace there, the Saudis
Speaker 4: want peace there. The Egyptians really want peace there. You know,
Speaker 4: the Iranians who are the pariah state, they're they're the
Speaker 4: ones who don't want peace. The Hoosies don't, but they
Speaker 4: don't particularly matter. Every time they launch a missile, we
Speaker 4: just take a power plant or report away from them,
Speaker 4: so they're they're, you know, they're kind of learned their lesson.
Speaker 4: I am optimistic about this, but I'm I'll tell you, though, Dan,
Speaker 4: we've never talked about this. I'm an evangelical Christian. I'm
Speaker 4: very curious about what this idea of a spontaneous, really
Speaker 4: unconnected pace in the Middle East, if that's a harbinger
Speaker 4: for other things. But that's kind of outside the realm
Speaker 4: of politics. I'm I'm waiting with baited breath that's unfold.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be an absolute miracle if Trump can get
Speaker 1: them to the point to where if there's actual peace
Speaker 1: for a while and they start looking around and they say,
Speaker 1: you know what, this piece thing is pretty good. You know,
Speaker 1: it's good. It's good for me, it's good for my neighbors,
Speaker 1: it's good for the people who've been suffering for a
Speaker 1: long time. And maybe maybe that'll that'll catch hold. But
Speaker 1: but you know, this conflict has been going on since,
Speaker 1: you know, long before you and I were born, and
Speaker 1: they I can't help but think it's going to be
Speaker 1: going on long after you and I are no longer
Speaker 1: bumping around on this planet.
Speaker 4: You know, if you can get but I think what
Speaker 4: you said is really important. If you can get some
Speaker 4: of these Palestinians, the ones who are angriest, if you
Speaker 4: can get them back into Jordan, if you can get
Speaker 4: Jordan to absorb some of them, if you can, in
Speaker 4: fact get each of these states to absorb some of them,
Speaker 4: and they don't want them. By the way, the Palestinians
Speaker 4: are the rejects of the Middle East. The Arab countries
Speaker 4: act like, oh, they're so mistreated. It's the Arab countries
Speaker 4: who hate them and won't take them in. But anyway,
Speaker 4: if we can disperse them a little bit, and if
Speaker 4: we can actually it's the only time to ever hear
Speaker 4: me say we need more diversity. We can get more
Speaker 4: diversity in Gaza from people who understand that there is
Speaker 4: more to life than hate, and that that is incredible
Speaker 4: land and you actually could have an amazing, prosperous, gorgeous
Speaker 4: safe area. You know, to your point, maybe maybe Palestinians
Speaker 4: who are still there, we'll look around and say, hey,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe we've got to give this a try. But
Speaker 4: I don't know, Dan, I mean, it took until what
Speaker 4: three was it, three or four months ago that the
Speaker 4: majority of Palestinians in Gaza they were still supporting Amas,
Speaker 4: still saying, ah, yeah, it was worth it. So I'm
Speaker 4: I'm very skeptical about them. But but what I do
Speaker 4: know is there's there are powerful nations in that area.
Speaker 4: They all want peace there, and uh, We're going to
Speaker 4: have an opportunity here. It's the only thing left because look,
Speaker 4: Israel gave them their own country. Yeah, Gazza was autonomous,
Speaker 4: they had their own government. Israel left them with billions
Speaker 4: of dollars of infrastructure twenty years ago. And what did
Speaker 4: they do. They had one election one time. That's how
Speaker 4: democracy works with Islam. One election one time, and then
Speaker 4: they destroyed the infrastructure and took all money that Israel
Speaker 4: was giving them to build concrete bunkers. Uh, to shelter
Speaker 4: hamas leadership and keep hostages.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bunkers and worked.
Speaker 4: It don't work. There's not another plan. This doesn't work.
Speaker 4: There's not another plan.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see, we'll see what happens with that. The
Speaker 1: other breaking news tonight, Latsia James. You know, I used
Speaker 1: I used to have a football coach who liked to
Speaker 1: use the phrase that turnabout is fair play, and uh,
Speaker 1: I think I think that applies here. And that interesting
Speaker 1: that she's been indicted now on this uh, this notion
Speaker 1: that she uh you know, gave false information so she
Speaker 1: could get a better deal on a home mortgage. Where
Speaker 1: have we heard that one before?
Speaker 4: I I'll tell you, I want her and ellen Omar.
Speaker 4: I want them to see the show on the road,
Speaker 4: and the whole thing is gonna be about how you
Speaker 4: marry a relative to get citizenship or better loan terms,
Speaker 4: because you know elen Omar allegedly, I mean, let's make
Speaker 4: she did married her brother to get him in and uh,
Speaker 4: Letitia James listed not on one document, but on two documents,
Speaker 4: listed her father as her husband. So a whole lot
Speaker 4: of a whole lot of special love on on over
Speaker 4: there in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 7: Very.
Speaker 4: A very cosmopolitan take on love.
Speaker 2: Not for cousins.
Speaker 4: They're okay with it's uh, it's daughters and brothers and
Speaker 4: these things. But but yeah, and I mean, I love
Speaker 4: it's poetic that she's accused. She's not charged with the
Speaker 4: same thing she charged Donald Trump with. What I love.
Speaker 4: It's so stupid, you know. She said Trump overvalued mar
Speaker 4: A Lago at twenty seven billion. Trump said, our twenty
Speaker 4: seven million. Pardon me, Trump said, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: It's that thing's worth seven hundred and fifty million. That
Speaker 4: they get the outsiders to come in and talk about
Speaker 4: it and a praise and look at it. They say, no, no,
Speaker 4: those things over a billion. Bus Man and then then
Speaker 4: Deutsche Bank, who they were the ones who gave the loan, said,
Speaker 4: I don't know you paid them back, paid them back,
Speaker 4: every interest was great, Hey we.
Speaker 2: Do this again.
Speaker 4: I don't hear, yeah, I don't hear anybody saying the
Speaker 4: same thing about the loans that she fraudulently took out.
Speaker 4: For some reason, I don't hear that.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that'll maybe that'll all come out of trial
Speaker 1: so that that'll be maybe that'll be a great one
Speaker 1: to watch. And then I gotta tell you, I had
Speaker 1: never heard of this woman out in California who's running
Speaker 1: for governor, Katie Porter. I guess she's an assembly member.
Speaker 1: But this is one evil woman. This, this is I
Speaker 1: saw a clip of her earlier today and she was
Speaker 1: on some news show I guess in the night that
Speaker 1: Trump got elected. And she tells a story about and
Speaker 1: and she and she at that time she was playing
Speaker 1: not There's no doubt in my mind she was planning
Speaker 1: to run for governor. But she told the story about
Speaker 1: her twelve year old daughter. And she says, my twelve
Speaker 1: year old daughter talked to me and said, I'm sad
Speaker 1: because what if I need an abortion? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna you're gonna sell out your twelve year
Speaker 1: old daughter with a disgusting story like that just for
Speaker 1: your political aggrandizement. And then apparently she doesn't treat the
Speaker 1: people who work for her very well either.
Speaker 2: Have you seen.
Speaker 4: We've all seen the you're in my shot, Get out
Speaker 4: of my shot.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the.
Speaker 4: One where she where she fired the staffer who had
Speaker 4: had a friend murdered. Have you seen that one?
Speaker 1: No, I have not seen that one.
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: She's got a series of really bad videos out there.
Speaker 4: Back in twenty twenty two, Yes, she fired a staffer
Speaker 4: who came into the office and had COVID, had not
Speaker 4: tested positive for COVID, and the staffer said, look, I've
Speaker 4: been working out. I thought I was just sore from that,
Speaker 4: and look I just messed up. My head's not really
Speaker 4: in the right place. Yesterday, my best friend from the navy,
Speaker 4: she was a vet. My best friend from the Navy
Speaker 4: was murdered. And the very next thing the porter said
Speaker 4: to her was, well, you gave me COVID.
Speaker 1: Oh, for God's sake.
Speaker 4: Now, remember remember Dan, they were all vaccinate and we
Speaker 4: were assured that if you were vaccinated, you couldn't get COVID.
Speaker 2: Remember that.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, this is a world. This is a
Speaker 4: horrible woman a string in Earlier today I described her
Speaker 4: as a a brawl less, walking avalanche of flesh. That's
Speaker 4: what she looks like to me, And I apologized her
Speaker 4: that was over delighted. I don't mean to be vulgar,
Speaker 4: but watch the video or better, better yet looking to it,
Speaker 4: because then you don't have to watch her. You know,
Speaker 4: she attacked her husband with with boiling hot potatoes one time.
Speaker 4: That she's an untit.
Speaker 1: She's a lovely way. And you wonder how you could
Speaker 1: possibly get a worse governor than Gavin Newsom. This is
Speaker 1: how you do it, California. So I mean, and isn't
Speaker 1: she leading in the polls out there right now? Isn't
Speaker 1: she like? Oh for good?
Speaker 4: We don't have new pulling as far as I know,
Speaker 4: As far as I know, there's not new polling. But
Speaker 4: who's got to hit her?
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: With the local television reporter. You if you're going to
Speaker 1: ask follow up questions and I'm calling them love leaving.
Speaker 4: I don't want this on camera. Oh my god, I
Speaker 4: don't want this on camera.
Speaker 1: Well, she you know she she definitely needs someone to
Speaker 1: to put her in a better outfit if she's going
Speaker 1: to be sitting in profile.
Speaker 4: My favorite yeah, exactly right. My favorite part of that though,
Speaker 4: was where she apparently had seen the list of questions
Speaker 4: she was going to be asked ahead of time, or
Speaker 4: the list of topics, and she got furious that she
Speaker 4: might have to answer something not on that list.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Kamala Harris doesn't like to ask questions that
Speaker 1: she's not prep for either.
Speaker 4: We're back to where we started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've come full circle. And with that, Josh Manning,
Speaker 1: we got a run. I mean, the dude, I say it,
Speaker 1: I say it every time, but the time one of
Speaker 1: these times, I'm going to book you for a whole
Speaker 1: hour and and then to help us. Yeah, Lord, help us.
Speaker 1: Let us have a great time. Johnsh Manning a Western Journal.
Speaker 1: All the best to your brother. Always appreciate the time,
Speaker 1: keep up the great work. We'll talk against.
Speaker 4: So thank you, Dan. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Josh Manning at the Western
Speaker 1: Total unbelievable fun. Way late for a break here on
Speaker 1: send my buddy Gary click is coming up after the
Speaker 1: news here at the bottom of the hour, seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW tag on the Big Ones seven hundred WW ten
Speaker 1: thirty nine. We got to midnight tonight. It's Thursday night
Speaker 1: edition of the Midweek Crisis. And my buddy, my buddy,
Speaker 1: Gary Click is here that that right wing lunatic from
Speaker 1: northern Ohio stir in the pot, stir in the pot.
Speaker 1: Why can't you just leave well enough alone?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you put all these proposals out there,
Speaker 1: you get people upset. People want to make funny and say, oh,
Speaker 1: here's this guy Gary Click again. Man, he's just uh,
Speaker 1: you know, wants us all to have religion in schools now,
Speaker 1: and God knows we can't have that religion in schools.
Speaker 1: What's so tell me about this that this latest brain
Speaker 1: story that you had.
Speaker 2: About God forbid that we love God?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 2: And by the way, I just I've been listening to
Speaker 2: you and I just got one quick question before we
Speaker 2: get into that. It's how many Nobel Peace prices can
Speaker 2: one president earn?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. That's a good question. Uh, well
Speaker 1: we'll see what. Look if if I don't know that
Speaker 1: much about the Nobel Committee, but if they can't see
Speaker 1: their way to uh, if if, if this thing works
Speaker 1: in the Middle East, Uh, and they can't see their
Speaker 1: way to to name Trump uh.
Speaker 2: Worthless?
Speaker 1: There, yeah, I mean there, they'll prove themselves to be
Speaker 1: completely illegitimate, completely and totally illegitimate.
Speaker 2: Well that's right. Well, Well into HBO six Charlie Kirk
Speaker 2: American here at Jack. You know, I'm on a to
Speaker 2: carry that.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: I met Charlie just once. I met him last December
Speaker 2: at the National Association of Christian Lawmakers. He was speaking
Speaker 2: there and we talked just a little bit. But you know,
Speaker 2: I was devastated, you know when I heard the news
Speaker 2: on September tenth of what happened, and really, you know,
Speaker 2: makes you think, where are we of a country? You know,
Speaker 2: And it's not like I knew him personally, but it
Speaker 2: was really it was an attack on America. It was
Speaker 2: an attack on our face.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: I got to thinking, you know, I had a conversation
Speaker 2: with our good buddy Adam Bird on my podcast. I
Speaker 2: just started podcasters clicking, Yeah, what's clicking? What do you
Speaker 2: think of that name?
Speaker 1: But what's it called? Again?
Speaker 2: What clicking?
Speaker 1: What's clicking? With Gary Klick? I like that that very.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that because Rida McLean and text
Speaker 2: Fisher have a resolution not just to honor Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: And you know, Texts was one of the first one
Speaker 2: employe of Turning Point Us. I didn't know that until then.
Speaker 2: And Adam made this comment, he said, you know, he
Speaker 2: said that Charlie was the perfect combination of Billy Graham
Speaker 2: at Rushman Ball and I can't think of any better.
Speaker 2: I can't think of any better way to describe him.
Speaker 2: And so for many of us it felt like it
Speaker 2: was an attack on us personally because he was a conservative,
Speaker 2: but his conservatives was motivated by his Christian faith, and
Speaker 2: you really can't separate the two. And he was one
Speaker 2: who would go back and talk about our history. He
Speaker 2: would talk about our hairs, he would talk about our roots.
Speaker 2: And what I've observed in the schools lately and not
Speaker 2: just lately, but over the years is deconstruction. Deconstructionism comes in.
Speaker 2: And what that does is you just stopped talking about
Speaker 2: the truth. You don't start telling the lie yet, you
Speaker 2: just start not telling the truth. Because if he started lying,
Speaker 2: the parents would know it immediately and they say, no,
Speaker 2: your teacher saw wrong. They go in, they correct it,
Speaker 2: and they picked everything. But it takes a couple of
Speaker 2: generations and they stop telling the truth for one generation,
Speaker 2: and so then you have a generation that doesn't know,
Speaker 2: and then the next generation they start telling them a
Speaker 2: lie and they start injecting things like DEI and so forth,
Speaker 2: and this post structuralism that comes in, and that's sort
Speaker 2: of a culture and historical amnesia. You forget where you
Speaker 2: came from. And when we forget where we came from,
Speaker 2: then we have untethered ourselves from our history, and that's
Speaker 2: going to be a danger to our future. And it's
Speaker 2: like I said in our committee, I said, without Christianity
Speaker 2: and American history, there would be no American history. And
Speaker 2: sometimes I also add to that. I did not in committee,
Speaker 2: but sometimes I alside to that without Christianity in our future,
Speaker 2: we have no American future because Christianity is the secret ingredient.
Speaker 2: Now when I say that Christianity is what brings religious
Speaker 2: freedom to America, hey, you know, in a Christian America,
Speaker 2: you're welcome to be a Muslim, You're welcome to be
Speaker 2: a Hindan. You're wanting to be an atheist, You're welcome
Speaker 2: to be agnostic, You're welcome to be whatever you want
Speaker 2: to be. But we came from a society where the
Speaker 2: Pilgrims fled. And by the way, the Pilgrims were a church.
Speaker 2: If you look at the embarkation, that twelve to eighteen
Speaker 2: portrait in the rotunda in the Capitol building, it's a
Speaker 2: prayer meeting on board the speed well. The speedwell was
Speaker 2: proven to be unseaworthy, so they had to just combine
Speaker 2: and all come over on the Mayflower, and some had
Speaker 2: to stay behind. And it was Pastor John Robinson in
Speaker 2: the middle holding the Bible with the name of Jesus
Speaker 2: Christ's scroll across it in this portrait that sits in
Speaker 2: our nation's capital, and their hands are lifted in prayer
Speaker 2: or folded in prayer. They're on their knees, they're looking
Speaker 2: towards Heaven, and the sale behind them says God with us.
Speaker 2: Behind them is a rainbow that depicts not what people
Speaker 2: think it depicts today, but it depicts the promises of God.
Speaker 2: And this was a church that actually sent half of
Speaker 2: its members to the New World to start a new church.
Speaker 2: And when they got here, as you know the story,
Speaker 2: they were like four hundred miles off course and they
Speaker 2: didn't land where they were supposed to have and have
Speaker 2: a charter, so they formed self government right there before
Speaker 2: they got off with what we call the day the
Speaker 2: Mayflower Compact. It used to have a much longer name.
Speaker 2: It starts in the name of God, and it talks
Speaker 2: about spreading the glorious Gospel in the light of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that we had a church state,
Speaker 2: but that we were founded on the basic principles of scripture.
Speaker 2: Donald Blutz to study of the Founding Era and where
Speaker 2: did all the citations come from. Everyone wants to give
Speaker 2: John Locke a lot of credit, and he deserves credit.
Speaker 2: So does Monusque, so does Blackstone, so does Hume. But
Speaker 2: if you take and combine all three of them together,
Speaker 2: that's about twenty one percent of all the quotes of
Speaker 2: the Founding probabies in the Founding Era. But you know
Speaker 2: that's the four of them together. But the Bible itself
Speaker 2: was quoted thirty four percent of the time. That's more
Speaker 2: than any of them, all of them combined. Deuteronomy was
Speaker 2: quoted more than Locke, and Monusque and Blackstone, and the
Speaker 2: apostle Paul was quoted more than any of them all
Speaker 2: by himself, and they in Deuteronomy. That was when the
Speaker 2: children of Israel were going into the New Land and
Speaker 2: Moses was laying out for them the principles of a republic,
Speaker 2: a republican form of government. And that's where we learned
Speaker 2: many of the principles that established us. That's where we
Speaker 2: learned the three three parts of government, you know, the legislative,
Speaker 2: of the judicial and the executive. You know, God is
Speaker 2: our king, our judge, and our lawmaker. That's from the scriptures.
Speaker 2: And so we implanted those principles. Even the non Christians
Speaker 2: like Thomas Jefferson, like Benjamin Franklin, they understood the value
Speaker 2: of Christianity. Thomas Paine, he's the one i'd call the heretic.
Speaker 2: He certainly was not a Christian. He wrote Common Sense,
Speaker 2: and you know what he did in Common Sense, that
Speaker 2: book pamphlet common Sense, he borrowed from everyone else. He
Speaker 2: borrowed from Christian theology, and he quoted Scripture to justify independence.
Speaker 2: And he did that not because he believed it, but
Speaker 2: because he knew that America was steeped in Christianity. He
Speaker 2: knew that the people in this nation would be moved
Speaker 2: by the scriptures more than anything else. Later he wrote
Speaker 2: a blasphemous work called The Age of Reason. And when
Speaker 2: he wrote The Age of Reason, he was there was
Speaker 2: probably six other people founding followers included like Elias Budineou
Speaker 2: who wrote responses to that, and Elias Budinoh, a founding father,
Speaker 2: actually wrote the Age of Revelation and he wrote that
Speaker 2: as a response to the Age of Reason. And matter
Speaker 2: of fact, Thomas Pain was so despised after he wrote
Speaker 2: that they couldn't even find a place to bury him.
Speaker 2: There's a very interesting book called The Trouble with Tom
Speaker 2: Strange after life Thomas Pain. He couldn't find a cemetery
Speaker 2: that would bury him because of the way he spoke
Speaker 2: against Christianity, and so he was very on his own farm.
Speaker 2: And then a guy named William Cobbatt dug up his
Speaker 2: boat to put him on display everywhere. And then Spike
Speaker 2: took his hand. This is a hand that wrote Tom
Speaker 2: and said somebody took pieces of his hair, his skull,
Speaker 2: even his brain. And Thomas Pain's remains are just scattered everywhere.
Speaker 2: You can't find them anymore. And that's because of what
Speaker 2: happened to him and how he somewhat attacked Christianity. During
Speaker 2: his lifetime. He was not well respected. And when you
Speaker 2: come to George Washington's farewell address, Washington and Payne had
Speaker 2: a huge falling out, and he said, of all the
Speaker 2: dispositions which ensure political prosperity for land, religion and morality
Speaker 2: are indispensable supports. He said, in vain, would that man
Speaker 2: claim the tribute of patriotism? Who would seek to subvert them?
Speaker 2: And so I think he was addressing that to Thomas Pain,
Speaker 2: because he understood Benjamin Franklin told Pain. He said when
Speaker 2: Pain showed up his book The Age of Reason, and
Speaker 2: Franklin was not what I would call it Christian.
Speaker 8: It was not.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was a deist like many people
Speaker 2: claim either, because he called for prayer, and he said this,
Speaker 2: He said, of all the longer I lived, more convincing cruse,
Speaker 2: I see that God intervened in the affairs of man.
Speaker 2: And then that call for prairie quoted fourteen passages of
Speaker 2: Scripture extemporaneously. He was very familiar with the Bible. I
Speaker 2: still wouldn't call him a Christian, and he didn't call
Speaker 2: himself a Christian, but he called for prayer. And when
Speaker 2: Thomas Payne showed him his book, he said, you ought
Speaker 2: to burn that before anyone else reads it, because he
Speaker 2: understood the value of Christianity and the American ethos. And
Speaker 2: so America was greatly influenced by Christianity. But now people
Speaker 2: think well of separation of church and state, and they
Speaker 2: don't even realize where that phrase came from. They attributed
Speaker 2: to either the Constitution or to Thomas Jefferson. And it
Speaker 2: didn't start with either one of them. It started with
Speaker 2: Roger Williams. Roger Williams was a Patriot pastor at the
Speaker 2: sixteen thirty second the seventeenth century. He was kicked out
Speaker 2: of Massachusetts for religious beliefs and they were going to
Speaker 2: send the actually they were going to send him back
Speaker 2: to England, where he has certainly been imprisoned for his beliefs.
Speaker 2: He escaped northward with the help of the Native Americans,
Speaker 2: and he's the founder of Providence, Rhode Island, which was
Speaker 2: founder of religious liberty. And he wrote a work called
Speaker 2: The Bloody Tenet of Persecution, and in that he drew
Speaker 2: from Isaiah chapter five and where it talks about the
Speaker 2: vineyard or the domestic grades and then the wild grapes
Speaker 2: and having a hedge in between them. And he said,
Speaker 2: the domestic grapes or the vineyard was the church, the
Speaker 2: wild grapes was the world, or maybe the government. And
Speaker 2: he said that head is a wall of separation. And
Speaker 2: so he drew that metaphor of a wall of separation
Speaker 2: of church and state from Isaiah chapter five. That went
Speaker 2: on down through Locke. Two people call him a death
Speaker 2: He wrote two huge works on the defense of Christianity.
Speaker 2: He was not a Deist. And then so even so
Speaker 2: Locke and Moniscue, Black Cille, they were all Christians. And
Speaker 2: then Thomas Jefferson pulled from that when John Leland came
Speaker 2: to see him, and John Leland had spoken with James
Speaker 2: Madison because Leland was anti federalist because there was no
Speaker 2: Bill of Rights, and he told Leland he couldn't support him,
Speaker 2: and he was from Virginia. Virginia was not going to
Speaker 2: elect Madison to the ratifying committee. Patrick Henry was an
Speaker 2: anti federalist. George Mason was an anti federalist. Edmund ran Off,
Speaker 2: the government governor, was anti federalist. And so Madison, I said,
Speaker 2: left the capital, which was New York City at the
Speaker 2: time came and solicited Pastor John Leland's support, and Leland
Speaker 2: said to him, he said, we have to have a
Speaker 2: bill of rights, which Leland was not disposed to do
Speaker 2: at the time. Leland promised that if he won, he'd
Speaker 2: work on a bill of rights. Mathison endorsed him, and
Speaker 2: that's the only reason he won a seat on the
Speaker 2: ratifying committee. If he had not gotten on the ratifying committee,
Speaker 2: he would not have been able to shepherd the constitution
Speaker 2: through ratification, and we wouldn't have our constitution.
Speaker 1: So are you are you?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 1: Do you have all this written down? Are you just
Speaker 1: doing this all off the top of your head? Are
Speaker 1: you read like like I?
Speaker 2: Steady? Friends? So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at the very least I have no
Speaker 1: idea you know how this and and I love the
Speaker 1: title of it though the Charlie Kirk American Heritage Act.
Speaker 1: At the at the very least, you are going to,
Speaker 1: I think, have a the cause of debate to happen
Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio as it regards our Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think I think everyone is going to wind
Speaker 1: up benefiting from that because I think I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything wrong with kids in school today,
Speaker 1: making a connection from you know, why why we have
Speaker 1: certain laws in place today. Why we talk about the constitution,
Speaker 1: what's in the constitution, we talk about the Declaration of Independence,
Speaker 1: why it's written the way it is, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the you know they talk about, uh, the thing is
Speaker 1: all the references to the Creator and everything else, and
Speaker 1: it makes it. It makes that connection. So if that debate,
Speaker 1: if all this does is cause this debate to take
Speaker 1: place in the state of Ohio, I think most of
Speaker 1: the people are going to be better off in the
Speaker 1: long run because of that.
Speaker 2: I agree, And we just want teachers to be We're
Speaker 2: not requiring teachers to teach any of this, but I
Speaker 2: do know I had one superintendent told me it was
Speaker 2: illegal to teach the history because that's a separation of
Speaker 2: church and the state.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, I'll tell you. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: And we've only got about a minute left here. But anecdotally,
Speaker 1: when when my kid was in uh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: sixth seventh grade, he had his history book sitting on
Speaker 1: the kitchen table one night and I started paging through
Speaker 1: this history book and there was a chapter on on
Speaker 1: on September eleventh, and literally there was I think a
Speaker 1: page and a half of what happened on September eleventh,
Speaker 1: and you know, it talked about, you know, how how
Speaker 1: it was, you know, jihadis, Muslims jahadas who attacked the
Speaker 1: United States. And then for the next I don't know,
Speaker 1: five six, seven, eight nine pages, it was all about Islam,
Speaker 1: all about Muslims, about all about how wonderful the religion
Speaker 1: really is, and we shouldn't they pull up poorly and
Speaker 1: it was so you know, don't tell me that this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff doesn't make it into the to the
Speaker 1: history books and the education of our kids. But Gary, click,
Speaker 1: we got a run, man. I mean, that went unbelievably fast.
Speaker 1: And thanks for the history lesson tonight and a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of other I wanted to run by it. But
Speaker 1: keep up the great work up there, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: again soon, my friend. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I look forward to it.
Speaker 1: God bless you all right, Thank you, pastor Gary Klick
Speaker 1: State wrap up there in Northern Ohio. Always great to
Speaker 1: have him on ten fifty four. Got to get to
Speaker 1: a break seven hundred WLW seven we all know ten
Speaker 1: nine eleven o nine on the Thursday night edition of
Speaker 1: the midweek crisis. I'm Dan Carroll, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being here. Five one, three, seven, nine, seven thousand
Speaker 1: and one, eight hundred. The big one phone lines are open.
Speaker 1: I haven't had them open all night long, but they
Speaker 1: are open now. As we are done with the guests
Speaker 1: for the for the final hour, where do I want
Speaker 1: to start there? The big debate going on in Virginia tonight.
Speaker 1: We and we had one here in Cincinnati between Aft
Speaker 1: tab Purval and Corey Bowman as they are both running
Speaker 1: for mayor. Obviously aftab is the mayor now he's running
Speaker 1: for reelection, and I'm reading just some of the some
Speaker 1: of the reviews that have been posted on social media,
Speaker 1: and it looks like it was a good night for
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman. So we may or may not call in.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll see what happens there. But the other debate
Speaker 1: is happening in Virginia the governor for that state, between
Speaker 1: Abigail Spamberger and win some Earl Sears, who I think
Speaker 1: is just terrific. Here's a little piece of that debate
Speaker 1: when she was asked about I think Joe am I right?
Speaker 1: Is this the cut about the the the men in
Speaker 1: women's locker rooms and so forth. All right, let's yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is how this sounded. Hit that cut.
Speaker 10: So again, the question was, should transgender girls who are
Speaker 10: biological males be allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play
Speaker 10: on girls sports teams in K through twelve?
Speaker 1: You have fifteen seconds to clarify.
Speaker 11: In cases across Virginia. I think it's incumbent upon parents
Speaker 11: and educators and administrators in each local community to make
Speaker 11: decisions locally.
Speaker 1: That's what this is about.
Speaker 11: There should never be.
Speaker 1: In locker rooms. We finally have her saying that, but
Speaker 1: you voted for that series.
Speaker 10: This is miss Spanberger's time. Have a follow up QUI
Speaker 10: for Miss Spamburger, would you rescind the Young and Administration
Speaker 10: policy requiring boys and girls to use bathrooms aligning with
Speaker 10: their biological sex?
Speaker 1: You have thirty seconds.
Speaker 11: My priority would be to ensure that local communities, importantly,
Speaker 11: parents and teachers, educators are able to work together to
Speaker 11: meet the unique needs of each school in each community girls.
Speaker 11: And that is important. And I say that as a
Speaker 11: mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools exactly, and
Speaker 11: as someone who used to investigate crimes against children. The
Speaker 11: way that we keep our children safe is by ensuring
Speaker 11: they are safe in schools, which includes funding law enforcement
Speaker 11: and public safety.
Speaker 10: But miss Svanberger, the question was should the young would
Speaker 10: you rescind the youngin administration policy requiring boys and girls
Speaker 10: to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sex? You have
Speaker 10: fifteen seconds to clarify that question.
Speaker 11: Yes, and my answer is that in each local community,
Speaker 11: decisions should be made between parents and educators and teachers
Speaker 11: in each community. It shouldn't be dictated viral politicians.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're listening to me and you're in
Speaker 1: Virginia right now, or you vote in Virginia, if you
Speaker 1: vote for Spanberger, you're you're a fool, You're an idiot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said before. I played a cut from her before
Speaker 1: when she was out on the campaign trail and she
Speaker 1: was asked a question about this, and she was talking about, well,
Speaker 1: the Virginia law, say is this is this? No, you're
Speaker 1: asked about what is your position? How do you feel
Speaker 1: about this? What will you do? And then she goes
Speaker 1: on to talk about communities and parents and meeting the
Speaker 1: needs and all that and all that mumbo jumbo. No,
Speaker 1: as governor, as a leader, you have to be someone
Speaker 1: who steps up, someone who puts yourself out there. You
Speaker 1: have to say I believe in this, I believe in that,
Speaker 1: I will do this, I will do that, and she
Speaker 1: can't do it. The term I used before when I
Speaker 1: played that SoundBite, it was a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: was I was talking about Michelle Malcolm and when she
Speaker 1: used to write columns all the time, she coined the
Speaker 1: phrase crap weasel. And I want you to think about
Speaker 1: that when you listen to her or any politician speak
Speaker 1: the way she's speaking. And God bless winsome seers. She's
Speaker 1: standing about five feet away saying no, that's not the question.
Speaker 1: And these idiots who are running the debate, they should
Speaker 1: have let they should have let that exchange take place
Speaker 1: instead of acting like prison guards saying you have thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: you have fifteen seconds. I'm going to ring my little bell.
Speaker 1: I swear to these people. They have no idea how
Speaker 1: to do a good debate. But she's a crap weasel. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go to Reagan independence Greg, what's going on tonight?
Speaker 1: Seven hundred ww Hey, Dan, how you doing? I'm good? Greg?
Speaker 7: What you got have you heard any feedback on the aftamp?
Speaker 7: Evil Corey Bowman debate I have.
Speaker 1: I've just read a couple of little things on social media.
Speaker 1: Looks like it might have been a good night for
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman. I messaged him earlier tonight and I told
Speaker 1: him he is welcome to call in to give us
Speaker 1: a recap of the debate, at least from his perspective.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens to that.
Speaker 7: Why can't five, nine, twelve or nineteen televises? Why don't
Speaker 7: we have to go on YouTube television?
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's a good question. It seems
Speaker 1: to me that, look, it's been especially since it has
Speaker 1: been what I want to say, in nineteen seventy two
Speaker 1: or seventy six, since we've had a Republican mayor. This
Speaker 1: is the first time I think in the last three
Speaker 1: or four election cycles that we've even had a Republican
Speaker 1: running for mayor in the city of that So it
Speaker 1: seems to me like it like it's kind of a
Speaker 1: big deal.
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna win.
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 1: I think that would be the best thing for Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I know, I think it would be the best thing
Speaker 1: to uh to get. I can't think, I can't think
Speaker 1: of a legitimate reason why any of the current city
Speaker 1: council members ought to be re elected. They ought to
Speaker 1: get get rid of them all and get and get
Speaker 1: to get nine new members or eight new members or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Nine I think nine new members of
Speaker 1: council in there. Get it. Get them out, because uh,
Speaker 1: these you know, these council members that are in there now,
Speaker 1: I can't think of a good reason to keep any
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Republicans a chance to run the city.
Speaker 7: Come on, we've had Democrats for too long.
Speaker 1: And we're we see how that's? How's that working out? Greg?
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call man. All right, there you go,
Speaker 1: that was that was Greg, good stuff right there. Let
Speaker 1: me let me here's a Trump was having a an
Speaker 1: event at the White House yesterday and he was talking
Speaker 1: about Antifa, and so the the the standard line from
Speaker 1: the left and the left leaning media is that Antifa
Speaker 1: doesn't even really exist, that it's just kind of a
Speaker 1: you know, an amorphous thing out there, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's just so, you know, an idiot right wingers just
Speaker 1: making stuff up. But he says he's going to designate
Speaker 1: Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization. And they did this
Speaker 1: roundtable at the at the White House. So you had
Speaker 1: all these different individuals there who have been, you know,
Speaker 1: have dealt with Antifa, and they talked about the money,
Speaker 1: where the money goes, and there's the there's a lot
Speaker 1: of money changed for organization that doesn't it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money changing cans, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of funding of these of these different Antifa groups
Speaker 1: that is going on. One of the individuals who was
Speaker 1: at the round table was an independent journalist. Her name
Speaker 1: is Brandy Cruz, and she has seen the light. She
Speaker 1: admits that she looked right at President Trump when she
Speaker 1: said this. She said, I had Trumped arrangement syndrome. And
Speaker 1: here's how she talked about that. This is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite sound bites of the day. But this is
Speaker 1: Brandy Cruz, who has had her share of Antifa coverage
Speaker 1: an independent journalists, and here's how she laid it out
Speaker 1: for the Trumpster. Let's hear Joe Waldell. Let's hear cut
Speaker 1: number three.
Speaker 12: Please, I'm living proof that you can recover from TDS.
Speaker 12: I had strong Trump derangement syndrome for probably eight years.
Speaker 12: It's this is one of the reasons I recovered from it.
Speaker 12: And by the way, it's much better to not have TDS.
Speaker 12: I'm happier, I'm healthier, more successful. I even think I
Speaker 12: got a little more attractive after I got one of
Speaker 12: my Trump derangements.
Speaker 7: Yes, you know I watched.
Speaker 12: I'm a reporter in Seattle, and frankly, I could not
Speaker 12: care any less what any.
Speaker 1: Of you have to say about this meeting.
Speaker 12: Could not care any less. We're not here for you.
Speaker 12: I'm not here to convince any of you that Antifa
Speaker 12: is a real thing, because if you have not come
Speaker 12: to that conclusion by now, you are never going to
Speaker 12: come to that conclusion because you don't want to see it,
Speaker 12: and you're gonna go and you're gonna say it's a
Speaker 12: bunch of right wing conservative influencers who are here spinning
Speaker 12: a tail.
Speaker 2: I was one of you.
Speaker 12: I was a mainstream reporter in Seattle for ten years.
Speaker 12: I was a TV reporter on the streets doing my job,
Speaker 12: and I was still assaulted by Antifa. So it's not
Speaker 12: about being conservative. It's about people who go there and
Speaker 12: show what they're doing. And when I saw after all
Speaker 12: those years that the media wouldn't be honest about what
Speaker 12: was happening, that democratic politicians wouldn't be honest about what
Speaker 12: was happening. I thought, well, gosh, if they're not being
Speaker 12: honest about that, maybe they're not being honest about President
Speaker 12: Trump either. And it opened my mind to just looking
Speaker 12: at things for what they were. And now I find
Speaker 12: you quite funny.
Speaker 1: Actually, no, I'm it's think I.
Speaker 12: Said, I'm much happier.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: That's that young woman was. She's been in the belly
Speaker 1: of the beast. She's covered Antifa, she's been assaulted by Antifa.
Speaker 1: She was a news reporter, she was drinking the kool aid,
Speaker 1: had full blown trumped arrangements into for eight years, eight years,
Speaker 1: and she finally saw the truth and she said, if
Speaker 1: our media is lying about this, what else are they
Speaker 1: lying about? And she didn't have anyone out there brainwashing her.
Speaker 1: She came to this conclusion on her own. She used
Speaker 1: her own brain, her own mind to get around this
Speaker 1: stuff and get her head around this stuff and figure
Speaker 1: out what the heck was going on. Now we have
Speaker 1: the Washington Post, and the Washington Post has admitted that
Speaker 1: the government is too big and there is plenty of
Speaker 1: fat that can be cut. The Post again, and they
Speaker 1: wrote about this, of course on one of my favorite websites.
Speaker 1: As NewsBusters, the Post once again tackled the ongoing political
Speaker 1: standoff between the GOP and the Democrats over what they
Speaker 1: call the Schumer shutdown, surprisingly chastising liberal lawmakers for being
Speaker 1: stubborn by continually voting down the republican clean continuing resolution.
Speaker 1: Then came a job dropping admission from the liberal newspaper,
Speaker 1: the government is too big. There is plenty of fat
Speaker 1: to cut. Again, this is the Washington Post, but they
Speaker 1: took it even a step further. If the last week
Speaker 1: has shown anything it's that the federal bureaucracy performs too
Speaker 1: many non essential tasks that do not have a direct
Speaker 1: bearing on the lives of most citizens. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is this is a eye opening, This is a revelation.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: The media, at least the Washington Post and this this
Speaker 1: and the instance you know I have to tell you.
Speaker 1: I mean, the media is one of the things because
Speaker 1: it's part of my background that I have talked about
Speaker 1: continuously for years on this radio stage. And I have
Speaker 1: seen so much. I've seen so much of it firsthand.
Speaker 1: I've at least on the TV end of the business,
Speaker 1: and I see the and I know the way things
Speaker 1: are written, and I see the bias. I've seen it.
Speaker 1: I've seen it, I've lived it. I know what it is.
Speaker 1: And for the editorial board on the Post to come
Speaker 1: out and admit this, and this comes on the heels
Speaker 1: of this editorial board admitting that that Obamacare was, that
Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act was next never actually affordable. And
Speaker 1: they went for years carrying water for this guy for years,
Speaker 1: and it's all coming around. Kurt Slickter wrote a great
Speaker 1: piece in town Hall talking about how the media He's
Speaker 1: coming them seeing the media come around as well. He
Speaker 1: talked about social media, not long ago was a closed
Speaker 1: system controlled by communist overlords. Capitalists can be worse than
Speaker 1: communists who conspire with the evil Biden cabal to suppress
Speaker 1: the speech normal Americans. But that all changed Elon Musk
Speaker 1: bought Twitter, made it X, lifted the censorship rules its
Speaker 1: competitors were forced to follow suit. I mean, think about
Speaker 1: that was that was a huge turning point for this
Speaker 1: country when Elon Musk went in and bought Twitter, made
Speaker 1: it and made it become X, and the social media
Speaker 1: broke the chains of the stranglehold that the Biden administration
Speaker 1: had placed on it and who remembers the Twitter files
Speaker 1: all the information came out. Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook talked
Speaker 1: about how with regularity the Biden administration would force them
Speaker 1: to suppress things that they didn't like, not things that
Speaker 1: were untrue, not things that were that were harmful, not
Speaker 1: things that were propaganda for our enemies. It was simply
Speaker 1: things that they didn't like. And I talked about that
Speaker 1: in real time as it was happening. The suppression that
Speaker 1: that is government suppression of our First Amendment rights. Now
Speaker 1: he's saying, it's the mainstream media's turn. The regime media
Speaker 1: is going to change. The first reason is that we're
Speaker 1: is that we are woke to just how evil it is.
Speaker 1: He says, there was a time when most Republicans carried
Speaker 1: what the New York Times or ABC said. They granted
Speaker 1: those institutions respect, He says, not us, hardcore folks, we
Speaker 1: always knew exactly what the regime media was. Well, now
Speaker 1: the truth we've been telling is undeniable. Except for except
Speaker 1: for the most impotent of the GOP. Republicans treat the
Speaker 1: mainstream media like what it is our enemy. If they
Speaker 1: go on face the press with George Snuffalupagus it's to
Speaker 1: mock the host or hostess and generate viral eclips of
Speaker 1: their humiliation. And he's talking about CBS has hired Barry
Speaker 1: Weiss over there. So Kirk Slicker is pointing to a
Speaker 1: major change that is coming to our national media, and
Speaker 1: the Washington Post is doing it now. So yes, antifa
Speaker 1: is a real thing. And people who covered it were
Speaker 1: at the White House telling Trump all about it. It's
Speaker 1: eleven twenty five. We got to get to a break.
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Speaker 1: of from Westwood is on the line. We'll get the
Speaker 1: bill in just a moment. Uh, Donald Trump, he's got
Speaker 1: a physical coming up. How's he feeling about it? Let's
Speaker 1: hear cut number one.
Speaker 9: I'm meeting with the troops and I'm also going to
Speaker 9: do a sort of semi annual physical, which I do
Speaker 9: and I think I'm in great shape.
Speaker 1: But I'll let you know.
Speaker 9: But no, I have no difficulty thus far is there
Speaker 9: would around here, no difficulty. Physically, I feel very good. Mentally,
Speaker 9: I feel very good. You know, I did about six
Speaker 9: seven months ago. I do physicals. I like to when
Speaker 9: I'm around, I like to check always early, always be earliest,
Speaker 9: a lesson for a lot of people. But I also
Speaker 9: did a cognitive exam, which is always very risky because
Speaker 9: if I didn't do well, you'd be the first to
Speaker 9: be blaring it. And I had a perfect score, and
Speaker 9: one of the doctors said he's almost never seen a
Speaker 9: perfect score. I had a perfect a perfect score.
Speaker 1: I got the highest score, and that made me feel good.
Speaker 1: There you go, perfect cognitive exam, going to meet with
Speaker 1: the troops. I guess at Walter reed and the Trumpster
Speaker 1: is the healthiest president we've ever had. And then during
Speaker 1: the same session, he was asked about maybe getting a
Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize. And here's what he said about that.
Speaker 1: Let's hear cut number two.
Speaker 9: I know this that nobody in history has solved eight
Speaker 9: wars in a period of nine months. And I've stopped
Speaker 9: eight wars, so that's never happened before.
Speaker 1: But they'll have to do what they do. Whatever they
Speaker 1: do is fine.
Speaker 2: I know this.
Speaker 9: I didn't do it for that. I did it because
Speaker 9: I saved a.
Speaker 1: Lot of lives.
Speaker 9: And that's the thing that bothers me so much about
Speaker 9: the Russia Ukraine. Seven thousand people are dying a week,
Speaker 9: the young soldiers. They're almost all soldiers of Ukraine and Russia.
Speaker 9: So in theory it doesn't affect us. No, but it's
Speaker 9: a terrible thing. And we'll get that solved too. But
Speaker 9: nobody has ever done eight wars. Nobody's done eight wars
Speaker 9: in thirty years, let alone nine months.
Speaker 1: So there you go, and I saw a piece of me.
Speaker 2: What I do with that?
Speaker 1: All the people that that that criticized Trump, they're they're
Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. Now let's go to Bill and
Speaker 1: west Wood and see what he's got for us tonight. Bill,
Speaker 1: how's it going tonight?
Speaker 5: It's going well, young man. Good to hear you back
Speaker 5: on the midweek crisis.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here. Good to hear your voice too.
Speaker 5: Thank you, young man. Went to the mayoral debate tied
Speaker 5: over an xavier.
Speaker 1: You did over the Cintas Center, Yes, sir, how to
Speaker 1: have that? Tell me how how they have the Cintas
Speaker 1: Center set up?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 5: As you go down the steps, you go into the
Speaker 5: big banquet room down there.
Speaker 13: They had a.
Speaker 5: A t level stage at the on the floor they
Speaker 5: had the questioners.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: The moderator was up on the DAAs with both candidates
Speaker 5: and you know, calling on each one of the questioners
Speaker 5: to hand to each one of the candidates or questions.
Speaker 5: It went pretty well. The questions weren't, you know, biased
Speaker 5: to one side or the other, at least I didn't
Speaker 5: think so. The mayor took a few cheap shots at
Speaker 5: Corey's brother, Vice President Vance, and anybody who supports making
Speaker 5: America great again, and that was kind of sad. While
Speaker 5: I was sitting there listening to the debate, I was
Speaker 5: scrolling down through Facebook on the Channel nine page, the
Speaker 5: thread that the thread that had the debate on it,
Speaker 5: there were people calling maga people racists, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And that was that And how was that part of
Speaker 1: the debate.
Speaker 3: Well, that wasn't.
Speaker 8: But it goes to it goes to the fact that
Speaker 8: the Democrats are using uh scare tactics against minorities, thinking
Speaker 8: that Abuement administration would be using racial profiling against oh.
Speaker 1: I see, I see because he because he wants he
Speaker 1: wants to have proactive policing. He wants police to actually
Speaker 1: take criminals off the streets. He wants, you know, he wants, uh,
Speaker 1: the judges and the prosecutors and the courts to to
Speaker 1: do their part when it comes to keeping the city safe.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one It's one thing to have police
Speaker 1: officers out there who go out and arrest people. But
Speaker 1: then it's another thing, too, uh, to have the courts
Speaker 1: that we have now and the judges that we have
Speaker 1: now who continually let these people go. You know, I
Speaker 1: get so upset when I hear about someone who commits
Speaker 1: a heinous crime and then you find out, well, this
Speaker 1: person's been arrested thirty times before, or forty times or
Speaker 1: ninety times or whatever the number is. That sort of
Speaker 1: thing has to stop.
Speaker 5: Well, this is true, and I have read on the
Speaker 5: Signal ninety nine page where Mayor Parival, while he was
Speaker 5: Clerk of Courts, had threatened the Hamilton County judges with
Speaker 5: being primary if they do any kind of bill requirements
Speaker 5: or holding them in the jail. So I have no
Speaker 5: reason to disbelieve this because it's been backed up by
Speaker 5: what I've been told by several other people, and that's pathetic.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're the clerk of courts, you have higher
Speaker 5: political aspirations, and you're telling your judges, you know, your
Speaker 5: fellow the Democrats, not to put people in jail who
Speaker 5: deserve to be in jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, you know there was a voter or no confidence
Speaker 1: by the Cincinnati f OP again, you know, on this
Speaker 1: on this mayor and the he was not endorsed by
Speaker 1: the by the fire the fire union. Yeah, the fire
Speaker 1: and that was not the department, but the union, the firefighters.
Speaker 1: So yeah. So, I mean, aftab's got a lot of problems.
Speaker 1: And you know I saw on that we have not
Speaker 1: had a we haven't even had a Republican run from
Speaker 1: mayor since two thousand and nine. So if if Corey
Speaker 1: Bowman makes some serious inroads here, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: But Bill, I appreciate the fact that you actually went
Speaker 1: to the Centas Center tonight, and I thank you for
Speaker 1: that first hand report on the on the debate.
Speaker 5: Well, I hope it was worthy of your show.
Speaker 2: Young man.
Speaker 1: You have Philly dam You did a fine job. Bill,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for that. Let's I got a
Speaker 1: couple more soundbites. I want to get to here one is, uh,
Speaker 1: we were talking about Antifa earlier and Aaron Burnett on
Speaker 1: CNN and a lot of the left, the leaning mainstream media,
Speaker 1: they continue to carry water for this organization that Trump
Speaker 1: wants to declare a terrorist organization. And this is what
Speaker 1: this sounds like. Let's hear cut number five.
Speaker 13: In fact, it's not even like far right groups like
Speaker 13: the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers, which have had national leaders.
Speaker 13: Unlike Antifa, there is no organized hierarchy to the group,
Speaker 13: and according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies,
Speaker 13: compared to right wing extremists, Antifa linked violence is rare
Speaker 13: and limited, but that has not stopped Trump from blaming
Speaker 13: Antifa for just about every act of violence in America
Speaker 13: since he first got into office. In fact, it's not
Speaker 13: even like far right groups like the Product.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's CNN and you know, look a little
Speaker 1: violence by Antifa, no big deal, right.
Speaker 8: They have.
Speaker 1: I mean, these people are just really okay. It was
Speaker 1: it was like it was when trend to Argua was
Speaker 1: taking over apartment buildings in in Aurora, Colorado. Remember that
Speaker 1: interview with Dadie Vance. But if mister Vice President, it's
Speaker 1: only it's only a couple well, he wasn't vice president then,
Speaker 1: I believe I was still during the campaign. It's only
Speaker 1: a couple of buildings, and he said, do you hear yourself, Well,
Speaker 1: it was Martha Radditt's do you hear yourself? A couple
Speaker 1: of buildings. We're supposed to sit there and accept that.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to sit there and accept it. In Chicago
Speaker 1: that the mayor has said there are no go zones
Speaker 1: in Chicago for ice or other law enforcement because you
Speaker 1: just want to let the criminals run wild. We can't
Speaker 1: have that kind of stuff. Many of the lawmakers who
Speaker 1: demanded a seats firing Gaza over the past two years
Speaker 1: of fallen silent now that Trump has the the deal
Speaker 1: at least the beginning phases of the deal working between
Speaker 1: Israel and Hamas and the Daily Caller went and Wren
Speaker 1: did a did a rundown on a bunch of these individuals.
Speaker 1: Democrat Illinois RepU Delia Ramirez, who in March joined colleagues
Speaker 1: outside the Capitol call for a seatsfire and an end
Speaker 1: to Netta, whose campaign ethnically cleanse Gaza, has been silent
Speaker 1: on the on the matter, and she's called for the
Speaker 1: for the return of the of the hostages, and let
Speaker 1: me see here's Promila Jaya Paul issued a statement on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: marking the two year anniversary of the October seventh Hamas attack,
Speaker 1: and she writes, into two years since we've seen that
Speaker 1: revenge never brings peace, and war only brings more war,
Speaker 1: the more war, referring to what she called the genocide
Speaker 1: of the Palestinian people in Gaza by the Israeli government.
Speaker 1: She ended her statement with a call for the immediate
Speaker 1: and permanent ceasefire, but has not commented since Trump announced
Speaker 1: a deal on Wednesday or spoken publicly about it. Let's see,
Speaker 1: President Trump needs to quit his bombastic rhetoric and work
Speaker 1: to return Israel and Hamasta the negotiating table, restore the ceasefire,
Speaker 1: so violence will cease, said Democrat Minnesota rep. Betty McCollum.
Speaker 1: So since the deil has been announced, she has not
Speaker 1: said anything. Okayzio Quartets has not said anything since the
Speaker 1: the announcement came out. So you've got all these got
Speaker 1: ilhan Omar, who has repeatedly criticized this administration and it
Speaker 1: has called for a cease fire and an end to
Speaker 1: the genocide. She hasn't had anything to say. So now
Speaker 1: all these loud mouse get out there and they don't
Speaker 1: really care about the issue. They simply want to have
Speaker 1: something that that they can use to beat up Trump with.
Speaker 1: Let's see here this woman in California, this Assembly. I
Speaker 1: guess she's in the Assembly. She's a lawmaker out there.
Speaker 1: Her name is Katie Porter, and she is Look, you
Speaker 1: cannot look at your social media feed without seeing videos
Speaker 1: of her. There's a video of her where she is
Speaker 1: I guess she's doing a zoom call or she's doing
Speaker 1: a podcast, and she's got her laptop over in there,
Speaker 1: and then someone wanders into her shot over her left
Speaker 1: shoulder and she immediately just lights that person up, dropping
Speaker 1: the F bomb. And speaking of dropping the F bomb,
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is out there on her book tour and
Speaker 1: she has taken to a dropping the F bomb when
Speaker 1: it comes to talking about Trump and when it comes
Speaker 1: to talking about the people, and she's calling them mf
Speaker 1: errs and all this other stuff. That is that really
Speaker 1: what we want from our politicians? But here's this Katie Porter.
Speaker 1: This is another video. There there's another. There's another one
Speaker 1: where she's a longer one where she's sitting with a
Speaker 1: local news reporter out there and the news that this
Speaker 1: woman is just asking routine questions, following up on some
Speaker 1: of the questions, and she can't have it, and she
Speaker 1: actually stops the interview and winds up walking away.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: This is an older clip though from I think it's
Speaker 1: actually from the second time that Trump got elected, and
Speaker 1: here she is talking to, you know, yucking it up
Speaker 1: with local news reporters. And this to me just is
Speaker 1: it just turns my stomach to hear a woman talk
Speaker 1: like this. Let's hear cut number four.
Speaker 14: So on election night I was with I went to
Speaker 14: pick up my daughter from water polo practice and she's twelve,
Speaker 14: and she got in the car and she was crying,
Speaker 14: and I said, did.
Speaker 1: Someone punch you? That waterpool's a rough sport.
Speaker 14: I was like, did someone hit you?
Speaker 2: To the coach?
Speaker 14: Yell at you what happened? And she said, Mom, Trump won,
Speaker 14: Trump's gonna win, And what if I get raped and
Speaker 14: I need to have an abortion. This is from a
Speaker 14: twelve year old, my twelve year old daughter. And so
Speaker 14: it was really a reminder of how scary this time
Speaker 14: is for people and how important it is for Democrats
Speaker 14: to have strategies, both at the state level and the
Speaker 14: federal level to make sure that we can continue to
Speaker 14: protect people's rights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're going to get jump on the back
Speaker 1: of your twelve year old and call for abortion rights,
Speaker 1: That to me is just that, that is sick and
Speaker 1: you're really you're just a You're just a pig. If
Speaker 1: you do that, I mean, you really are. That is
Speaker 1: sick and disgusting. And how many mothers out there have
Speaker 1: their twelve year old daughters? First of all, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think something like this really happened. But you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna say, just in order to get votes,
Speaker 1: You're gonna say, my twelve year old daughter talked about
Speaker 1: what if I get raped and I can't have an abortion? Belinda,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're a mother or not, but
Speaker 1: would would you ride the back of your twelve year
Speaker 1: old and talk about my twelve year old wants to
Speaker 1: have an abortion just so you can get some votes?
Speaker 1: Would you do that? Hello? Belinda, Belinda, what happened Belinda
Speaker 1: and Kentucky? Oh well, Belinda, thanks for calling, Thanks thanks
Speaker 1: for listening. I gave her a shot and she didn't
Speaker 1: want to talk Joe, was she talking to you all right? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess she's not familiar with the way it works.
Speaker 1: But Belinda, maybe next time. That's it for me. I
Speaker 1: gotta go, have a great night, and we will see
Speaker 1: you next time. Let's go Bengals this weekend. Have a
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