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Speaker 2: Five minutes after five o'clock, Kevin Bourdon in for Brian

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Speaker 2: that for later. Hey, Happy Thanksgiving Eve. I hope everybody

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Speaker 2: very Americana and very much American. And what is interesting

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not the smallest I've ever done.

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Speaker 3: Christmas dinner for them, but that was twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, Well, best of luck, the best of luck

437
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Speaker 2: to you. Hope everything turns out well. And be safe

438
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Speaker 2: out there, will you? You too?

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Speaker 6: Happy Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving? Soothing phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty,

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Speaker 2: five hundred one eight Wait a minute five one three, seven,

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Speaker 2: four nine fifty five hundred one, eight hundred eight two

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Speaker 2: three talk one eight hundred eight two three eight two

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Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See

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Speaker 2: the talk station five forty one in the morning Kevin

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Speaker 2: Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the

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Speaker 2: talk station. Phone numbers five one, three, seven four nine, fifty,

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Speaker 2: five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one

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Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three eight two, five five pound

451
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Speaker 2: five point fifty on that AT and T wireless phone.

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Speaker 2: By the way, every time I come in here. I

453
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Speaker 2: generally not generally, I always try to post on Facebook

454
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Speaker 2: as to the lineup, and if you went to my

455
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Speaker 2: Facebook page you will see who I've got scheduled for today.

456
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Speaker 2: Right now, the only person I've got scheduled is a

457
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Speaker 2: fellow by the name of Guy Harper. He is the

458
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Speaker 2: owner of Patriot Shop. Now. I ran into Guy. I

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Speaker 2: met him way back, well not way back, but back

460
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Speaker 2: in August. Remember two weeks after that violent attack in

461
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: Cincinnati where that one woman was knocked out and the

462
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Speaker 2: street violence was getting out of control. They had the

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Speaker 2: town hall meeting there. Jim and Jack's over there on

464
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Speaker 2: the west side, and Corey Bowman, the vek warm Ramaswami,

465
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: they were both there and I met this gentleman there

466
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 2: and during the process of the Q and A, he

467
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Speaker 2: actually spoke up and had some very poignant comments to make,

468
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Speaker 2: and it was interesting, so typical of when you go

469
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Speaker 2: to events and then you read what the newspeople cover.

470
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: As far as that event is concerned, it is completely different.

471
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: And so I told him that the next time I

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Speaker 2: was on, I was going to have him on and

473
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: we talk about because of basically his business traveling around

474
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Speaker 2: to do these different shows and selling Trump merchandise and

475
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: so on. He is seeing a lot of what's going

476
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Speaker 2: on at the grassroots level, and I wanted to get

477
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Speaker 2: his feedback. Plus some of his comments that were etched

478
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Speaker 2: from or deleted, I guess from the news story. And

479
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: I've spoken about this numerous times that back in twenty

480
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Speaker 2: ten twenty, throughout pretty much of the teens, as far

481
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: as political stuff going on in northern Kentucky, a group

482
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Speaker 2: of us were very active going to fiscal court meetings,

483
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Speaker 2: county commissioner meetings, different city council meetings, just to kind

484
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Speaker 2: of pay attention to what's going on, trying to hold

485
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Speaker 2: their feet to the fire in terms of tax increases.

486
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: Back during that period of time, of course, there was

487
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Speaker 2: the attempt to toll the Brent Spence Bridge and all that, which,

488
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: by the way, that was such an emergency situation that

489
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Speaker 2: it had to be built right here right now, back

490
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: in twenty what thirteen, twenty twelve, and we still don't

491
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Speaker 2: have that first shovel turned over in order to build

492
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Speaker 2: that companion bridge down there. So again, but off the

493
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Speaker 2: subject there, but when I would attend these meetings, I

494
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Speaker 2: would go to them and I'd come home and I'd

495
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Speaker 2: tell my wife A said, boy, that was a pretty

496
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Speaker 2: good meeting. This guy had this to say, this guy

497
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Speaker 2: had that to say. And then when it got time

498
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Speaker 2: for the nightly news or the newspaper report the following morning,

499
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Speaker 2: she would say, and it was became a joke with us.

500
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: She goes, did you really go to that meeting last night?

501
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Were you out doing something else? Because the report of

502
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Speaker 2: this meeting, as far as what was said versus what

503
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Speaker 2: you said was said, is completely different. And what it

504
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Speaker 2: is is that I found at a lot of these meetings,

505
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Speaker 2: you know, you could have somebody in the in the

506
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Speaker 2: audience that makes a brilliant point about what they're they're doing,

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Speaker 2: what they're not doing, et cetera, And as soon as

508
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Speaker 2: the meeting's over, the reporters make a bee line not

509
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Speaker 2: to the person that had the comment, not to the

510
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Speaker 2: person that raised the question. They go to the commissioners

511
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Speaker 2: or the mayor or somebody like that to get their

512
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Speaker 2: take on it. I guess it's a way of them

513
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Speaker 2: protecting quote their sources so they don't have to work

514
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: very hard. So if they're fed this information from these people,

515
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: then they've got a story. They don't have to do

516
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: much work or do much digging. And that's why years

517
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Speaker 2: ago I started referring I've been referring to them for

518
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: a long time, about thirty years now, the spoon fed

519
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: regurgitators in the mainstream media because there's very little reporting,

520
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: actual reporting, digging into the details and finding out what's

521
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: really going on as far as the story is concerned.

522
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: And basically what they are done is they are fed

523
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Speaker 2: this information and then they regurgitate it to us and

524
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: so that we get what they want us to hear

525
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: as opposed to what the accuracy is. So anyway, he'll

526
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Speaker 2: be on at the seven o'clock hour. Uh So, got

527
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: that coming up, and I want to talk a little

528
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: bit more about this. AI slop recipes phone numbers five

529
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Speaker 2: to one, three, seven, four nine fifty, five hundred one,

530
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Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three talk one, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: two three eight two five five pound, five point fifty

532
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Speaker 2: AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,

533
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Speaker 2: fifty five KRS de talk station five fifty one in

534
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Speaker 2: the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five

535
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Speaker 2: KRC the talk station phone numb where is this coming

536
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Speaker 2: from my voice anyway? Five one three, seven, four nine

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Speaker 2: fifty eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred

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Speaker 2: eight two three eight two five five pound, five point

539
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Speaker 2: fifty AT and T wireless phone if you want to

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Speaker 2: get on board now, kind of finishing up this story

541
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: as far as AI generated recipes again, if you're relying

542
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: on that for tomorrow. If you're planning on some recipes,

543
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: make sure you go to the source. Make sure you

544
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: go directly to the website, the influencer, the chef, or

545
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: whoever you follow, whether it's you know, well, whatever website

546
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: you go to, normally, make sure that you're getting the

547
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Speaker 2: accurate recipe. Like I said, I can remember back when

548
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: the internet first came about. You know, you used to

549
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Speaker 2: depend on your mom or your grandmother to pass down

550
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: recipes to the family and then you would tweak it

551
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: from there. But people kind of got away a little

552
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: bit from cooking or sharing. I can't tell you the

553
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: number of people I've talked to who they said, well,

554
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: my mom never let us in the kitchen. Now my mom,

555
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: you know she would get well, you know, she was

556
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Speaker 2: cooking for five of us, the five boys, and then

557
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: my dad. So there was seven of us in the family,

558
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Speaker 2: and then for Thanksgiving, we generally had my grandparents over

559
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Speaker 2: and a couple of other people. So generally we were

560
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Speaker 2: having a dinner for about twelve, sometimes as many of

561
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Speaker 2: fifteen people, and to try to get that ready, it's

562
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: kind of stressful. So I started helping my mom in

563
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Speaker 2: the kitchen. Picked up a lot of information that way.

564
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: But I'm surprised how many people will say, my mom

565
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Speaker 2: never let me in the kitchen, so I don't know

566
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Speaker 2: any of her recipes. She didn't write anything down, so

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00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: I don't have that. You know, if you do something,

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00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: if you are cooking, if you are preparing recipes and

569
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Speaker 2: you family enjoys them, write them down so you can

570
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: pass them through. It's kind of a bit of a legacy,

571
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: if you will, so that people can remember those times.

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00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: I've got a recipe that my mom gave me for

573
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Speaker 2: as I said, this cranberry salad and stuff and being

574
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: and using this over the last thirty four years. It's

575
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Speaker 2: showing its age. You can see some of the splatters

576
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: on it. You see some of the spots and stuff,

577
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: and it's aging. It's aging. Well, you can still read it.

578
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: But when I look at that I think in terms

579
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: of back to the time when I first tried that

580
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Speaker 2: recipe for the first time on my own, how great

581
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: it was, and what the experience was. And so by

582
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: having these notes, by having these recipes and then updating them,

583
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: making sure that you make notes as far as what

584
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: went wrong, what didn't, what went right, and some ways

585
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: of pairing it or maybe the timetable shifting so on

586
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: that way, you look back on that and it brings

587
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: back a flood of memories in terms of, you know,

588
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: a Thanksgiving of you know, two thousand and eight Thanksgiving

589
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen or something like that, because you see the

590
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: individual notes there and it's kind of a bit of

591
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: a time capsule. So again with this story, the title

592
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: of this story was AI slop recipes are taking over

593
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Speaker 2: the Internet. Make sure you go to the right websites.

594
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: Even if the picture online looks right, make sure you

595
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: put in the right URL and go to that because

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Speaker 2: as I said, as Dave Hatter has pointed out, some

597
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: of these hackers and when they go in here, they

598
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: will actually change just one of the digits or one

599
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: of the characters within that website and it takes you

600
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Speaker 2: to a completely different website, So be aware and be cautious,

601
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: because again you don't want your things Thanksgiving ruin by

602
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: a crappy recipe. Uh So, coming up top of the arm,

603
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: we'll get into a little bit of more mischief here.

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Speaker 2: Uh Phone numbers five one three, seven one, eight hundred

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Speaker 2: eight two three talk one eight hundred eight two three

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Speaker 2: eight two five five pound, five point fifty AT and

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Speaker 2: T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty

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Speaker 2: five KRC The Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: And now Kevin Gordon filling in for Brian Thomas on

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRS the Talk Station.

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Speaker 2: Six o seven in the morning. Happy Thanksgiving Eve. I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you what. I am so excited for this Thanksgiving holiday.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned in the previous hour, we are going

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Speaker 2: to have Thanksgiving at our house for the first time

615
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: and probably gosh, I think even pre pandemic because our

616
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: son has been out of town and they have been wanting.

617
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: He's a chef, so obviously he knows a lot about food,

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Speaker 2: and it's very good. I'll tell you what. I'm a

619
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Speaker 2: little sidetracked there. I've teased about the fact that there

620
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: are certain foods that I have never ever wanted to eat.

621
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Speaker 2: I mean for some reason that I just don't like

622
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: the look of him. I don't like the taste of them.

623
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Speaker 2: But Brussels sprouts has never been a favorite of mine.

624
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: But he has a way of preparing those that is

625
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: just absolutely excellent, to the point where I've said that

626
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Speaker 2: he can put anything in front of me and I'll

627
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Speaker 2: eat it, which is probably a bad thing if he

628
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Speaker 2: didn't like me, or if somebody's trying to poison me,

629
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Speaker 2: that would be a problem, because obviously you know i'd

630
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Speaker 2: eat it. But I'm teasing. But sort of the last

631
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: several years he has been cooking Thanksgiving, and so we

632
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: have been going up there, been bringing some stuff and

633
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: so on. But this year his daughter, who is still

634
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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. They moved up to the northern northwestern part

635
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: of the state a couple of years ago, and so

636
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: she is still down here, but she has to go

637
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: to work at three o'clock on Thanksgiving afternoons, so she

638
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: can't go up there for Thanksgiving. So we're just gonna

639
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: go ahead and have it here. There'll be about ten

640
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: people there at the Thanksgiving. And I mentioned how kind

641
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 2: of interesting it is to get back in the saddle

642
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: again trying to coordinate and going back through the notes

643
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Speaker 2: in terms of when the prepper, you know, when you

644
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: start prepping things, because it is a process. If you know,

645
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: this is not something you just slop together one day.

646
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: There are certain things that you have to bake, certain desserts,

647
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: certain things, certain parts of the recipe that you start. Well,

648
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: in my case, there's certain things that we start on

649
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: Sunday and to make sure that they're available for Thursday.

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Speaker 2: And so all that process and get the timing down

651
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Speaker 2: and whatnot has been interesting. And of course going out

652
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: and buying the groceries. Now that's one of the things

653
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Speaker 2: I kind of want to talk about this hour. I've

654
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: been here and we keep hearing a lot about food inflation.

655
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: We've been hearing a lot about inflation overall, and the

656
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: thing that is irritating me about these reports is that

657
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: they don't dig into what is actually causing the inflation.

658
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: It's one of those things. When Liberation Day happened back

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Speaker 2: in April the second, when the tariffs were put into place,

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Speaker 2: where the announcement of the tariffs were put in place, which,

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00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: by the way, if you're talking about fair trade, if

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00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: a country is charging massive amounts of tariffs on your

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Speaker 2: goods going into that country, and you are charging very

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Speaker 2: little on their goods coming into your country, you are

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00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: at a competitive disadvantage. Their products coming in here in

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00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: some cases are cheaper because the manufacturing process is less

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00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: over there. Some of the stuff is government subsidized, especially

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Speaker 2: when we're talking about China, we're talking about slave wages.

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Speaker 2: I've talked about how the wages over in China are

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00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: between five dollars and seven dollars an hour. There are

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00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: no fringe benefits, there's no vacation time, there's no workers' compensation,

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Speaker 2: unemployment insurance, or any of that. So their hourly wages

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00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: are five to seven dollars. Here in the United States,

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Speaker 2: that average hourly wages somewhere around north of thirty seven

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Speaker 2: dollars and fifty cents. So, right off the bat, in

676
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Speaker 2: terms of labor, with the same raw materials, the same manufacturing,

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00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: the same energy process, you're going to have a product

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00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: that's a little bit more expensive. So if we're trying

679
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: to sell goods into Europe and they're subsidizing their countries,

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00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: when was the last time you saw a story over

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Speaker 2: in Japan where there was a Ford f one fifty

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00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: or an American car. We've got plenty of Toyotas, Nissans, etc. Here,

683
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: We've got plenty of Audi's, We've got plenty of Volkswagens.

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00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: We've got plenty of BMW's and Mercedes in this country.

685
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: But you don't see many American cars in Europe. So again,

686
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: unfair advantage and so trying to level that playing field

687
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: as a negotiating term, to try to bring their tariffs

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00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: down to make things more competitive. That's what Liberation Day

689
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: was all about. Now we have heard people say that

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00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: in the Federal Reserve saying that tariffs are going to

691
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: lead to inflation, and that there's going to be rampant inflation.

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00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: It could possibly cause a recession. This was the talk

693
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: back in April, and then May came around, June came around, August, July,

694
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Speaker 2: August and so on, and they kept saying, well, we're

695
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: not seeing inflation yet, but it's just around the corner.

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00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: Well it hasn't been around the corner. And as a

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Speaker 2: lot of experts say Phil Flynn, who I talked to

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Speaker 2: on a regular basis, he is the senior advisor with

699
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: a group called Price Futures Group. We've got Kevin o'lear,

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00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: the one of the people on Shark Tank. We've got

701
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: what's his name, Charles Payne from Fox Business Network, and

702
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: Lou Dobbs and a couple of other people. But you

703
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: go through the list of people that say that tariffs

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00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: in and of themselves don't lead to inflation, I'm in

705
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: that camp. Tariffs don't necessarily lead to inflation. What really

706
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: does lead to inflation is overspending by the federal government,

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00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: subsidies putting out putting out those the checks, the pandemic

708
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: checks that came out that even the last round of those,

709
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: people were saying they were unnecessary to put out there,

710
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 2: that it would lead to inflation, and sure as hell,

711
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: it did lead to inflation, nine point one percent inflation

712
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: in the month of June of twenty twenty two. Now,

713
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: when you've got government spending and you have subsidies going

714
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: out there, that is what is going to raise prices.

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00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: We saw that when the government put in these credits

716
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: for the evs, they were saying that you could take

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00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: a tax credit of seven thousand dollars. Miraculously, the cost

718
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: of these evs across the board pretty much went up

719
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars. So without doing the tax credit, that

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00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: car would have been seven thousand dollars cheaper. But because

721
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: they realized that people were going to get this tax credit,

722
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: which they could deduct from their taxes, owed, they figured, well, shoot,

723
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Speaker 2: we'll just bump up the price of these cars. And

724
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: so they got an extra boost there, an extra profit

725
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: as far as that was concerned. And so when you

726
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: have these subsidies, these are the things that lead to inflation.

727
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: When you have out of control of fiscal spending and

728
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: wasteful spending as far as the government, that leads to inflation.

729
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: Not necessarily tariffs tariffs. What they'll do is they'll raise

730
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: prices on certain goods but lower prices on others, so

731
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: that across the board the inflation is relatively even. And

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Speaker 2: so that was some of the discussion back then. Now

733
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Speaker 2: what we're seeing as far as some of the inflation

734
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Speaker 2: going on, people are talking about, oh, it's teriffs, it's

735
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: terriff related. Well, go back to the pandemic. Back when

736
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: everything was shut down. The manufacturers were closed down, restaurants

737
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 2: were closed, nobody was doing anything. Once those businesses opened

738
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: back up, what happened We started having supply chain issues

739
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: and some companies because they weren't prepared for the amount

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00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: of customers that they were having. They didn't buy enough,

741
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: and so they didn't have enough on hand to be

742
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: able to sell. And so when customers would complain that, well,

743
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: you know, I can't find anything I you know, certain

744
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 2: items on the menu aren't available, sold out, and so on,

745
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: they blamed it on supply chain issues, when in fact

746
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: it was they're not ordering properly. So you saw some

747
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 2: of these excuses. We had problems with people coming back

748
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: into the workforce because of these COVID relief checks that

749
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: were going out, and people were looking at that and saying, well,

750
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm still collecting state unemployment. I'm getting these government checks

751
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: and when I add that all up, it's more than

752
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: what I would be making going back to work. So

753
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people stayed out of the labor force,

754
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: and the labor participation rate came down, and then of

755
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: course the company's trying to gear back up to take

756
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: care of the customers coming back in. They had a

757
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: tough time dealing with the lack of having the available

758
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: employees to take care of the business that they needed.

759
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: So as an excuse, they talked about supply chain issues

760
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: with this inflation. We're seeing people blaming it on teriffs.

761
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: They're blaming it on as far as you know, well,

762
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: basically tariffs is what they're blaming it on. But when

763
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: you dig into the numbers, some of the things just

764
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 2: don't pan out. We'll talk about that coming up. Phone

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Speaker 2: numbers five one, three seven form and by the way,

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Speaker 2: I want your impression. I want your ideas in terms

767
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: of this Thanksgiving season if you're seeing a large increase

768
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Speaker 2: in what you're spending as far as your Thanksgiving meal

769
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: versus what you've seen in the years past. Phone numbers

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Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty five hundred one,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: two three eight two five five pound, five point fifty

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Speaker 2: AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 2: fifty five kr s DE talk station six twenty one

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Speaker 2: in the morning Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty

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Speaker 2: five KRC the talk station. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifty five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk

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Speaker 2: one eight hundred eight two three eight two, five five pound,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty AT and T wireless phone. Yeah, you're

780
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 2: probably a little bit of thunder struck out there this morning,

781
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: especially if you listen to the spoon fed regurgitators in

782
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: the main stream media talking about the economy. Now, taking

783
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: the consideration the fact that going back to twenty fifteen,

784
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: when Donald Trump first came down the escalator, from that

785
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: point on, ninety four percent thereabouts of the coverage of

786
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: him has been negative during his presidency, the first presidency

787
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Speaker 2: ninety some percent negative coverage, going into this presidency, ninety

788
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Speaker 2: some percent, ninety four ish percentage negative coverage. As far

789
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Speaker 2: as tariffs, as far as the economy, as far as

790
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 2: everything that this man does, there's always this ninety four

791
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Speaker 2: percent or thereabouts talking down. I talked about, and I've

792
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: talked about several times, the fact that looking at the

793
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: way the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media reacted

794
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: since January, talking about prices, talking about the economy, talking

795
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: about they were trying to talk down the economy, and

796
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 2: and in my opinion, they are trying or we're trying

797
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: to manufacture a recession. But the resilience of the American public,

798
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: the resilience of the of the people, the fact that

799
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: we go to work every day, we keep our nose

800
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: to the grindstone, we do the things that we're supposed

801
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: to do. Has been keeping this economy flowing. They keep

802
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: talking about, well, retail sales are going to go down,

803
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: and there I can't tell you the number of times

804
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: that I've done the radio program for America's Trucking Network

805
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: and talked about certain economic things where the sentence is

806
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: or the headline is, consumer price index comes in lower

807
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 2: than expected, retail sales higher than expected, job creation higher

808
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: than expected, unemployment numbers lower than anticipated. And we keep

809
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: seeing and every time there is a situation where maybe

810
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: the unemployment numbers for the week go up a little bit,

811
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the sky is falling. And obviously

812
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: this is a sign that we're heading towards a recession

813
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: or a downturn in the economy. What we're seeing as

814
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: far as the labor force right now, we are seeing

815
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: a no higher, no fire situation. We've got a situation

816
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: as far as the economy is concerned, because of high

817
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Speaker 2: interest rates. And I will stress that high interest rates

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00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: the fact that people businesses are not expanding, People are

819
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: not going out and buying that new piece of equipment

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00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: for their factory or for their business. They're not building

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Speaker 2: onto their business. They're not making a physical addition. People

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Speaker 2: in the trucking industry are not going out and buying

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00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: new trucks because again they're not sure in terms of

824
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: how the economy is going or is more than anything else,

825
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: they are. They know where the economy is going, they

826
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: know that their businesses is strong, but in order to

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00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: go out and that piece of equipment, it's going to

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Speaker 2: cost them money. And then when you look at the

829
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Speaker 2: interest rate on top of that, that makes your return

830
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: on investment not so great. And the fact that we

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Speaker 2: have all this, you know, the higher interest rates. If

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Speaker 2: you look at the interest rate on that overnight fed

833
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Speaker 2: charge that they talk about, which is what the Federal

834
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Speaker 2: Reserve does as far as their interest rate, that is

835
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Speaker 2: the amount of interest that is charged to member banks

836
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Speaker 2: who have to borrow money from other banks in order

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Speaker 2: to meet their cash obligations, either on a payday or

838
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Speaker 2: sometime during the month. And so that's the overnight rate.

839
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Speaker 2: But that then is reflected in terms of your credit

840
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 2: card payment of filters into your mortgage, filters into any

841
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: of the other car loans and stuff that you go

842
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: out and you buy or that you incur interests, and

843
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: so when those rates go up, it costs you money

844
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Speaker 2: on a regular basis, and it adds to the value

845
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: or adds to the cost of a home, cuts into

846
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: the amount of home you can afford because of the

847
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: high prices that you're going the interest rate that you're

848
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: going to pay, and so that's holding the housing market back. Well,

849
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: the single biggest thing, in my opinion, that is holding

850
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 2: back this economy right now is the interest rates. When

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Speaker 2: you're looking at a mortgage in some areas above that

852
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Speaker 2: six percent six point five percent interest rate, that is

853
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: holding down interest rates. We saw a couple of weeks

854
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: ago there was an eighty one percent increase in terms

855
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Speaker 2: of people wanting to refinance their home because locally or

856
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: in areas, the interest rate went down at half a

857
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Speaker 2: percentage point. If that much is going to happen over

858
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Speaker 2: a half a percentage point, imagine if we had interest

859
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: rates down to where they were at the end of

860
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Speaker 2: the first Trump administration around three percent. Most mortgages at

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Speaker 2: that time were below three percent two point seventy five

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Speaker 2: point eighty seven. That is one of the things that's

863
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Speaker 2: holding back people from jumping into or or maybe downsizing

864
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: or buying a new home because they have a low

865
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: interest rate. They don't want to give that up, which

866
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: means that then people going into the marketplace, there isn't

867
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: a big supply. So a lot of the things that's

868
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: holding back our economy right now, in my opinion, are

869
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: interest rates and when you look at the different food costs,

870
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: when you look at things as far as Thanksgiving is concerned,

871
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing personally, and I'm curious as to what

872
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: you're seeing out there in terms of what these costs

873
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: are doing as far as your Thanksgiving is concerned. Phone

874
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty, five hundred one,

875
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred eighty

876
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: two three eight two five five pound, five point fifty

877
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,

878
00:52:48,520 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: fifty five krs the talk station, six thirty one in

879
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: the morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five

880
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: k see the talk station. Danny Gleason my producer this morning,

881
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: and I must be on some sort of a wavelength

882
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: here because we didn't talk about what bumper music to

883
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 2: use for this session or this segment here, but how

884
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: appropriate talking about local headlines. Joe Burrow is going to

885
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: be on the field Thanksgiving night, so you know, kind

886
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: of like who are you actually, It's going to be

887
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: kind of like who are the Bengals? Which Bengals is

888
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: going to show up? Are they going to ever show up?

889
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: In terms of their well defense has been doing pretty well,

890
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: but again the coverage or the protection of the quarterback

891
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: has been horrific. Anyway, Joe, who are you? Burrow is

892
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: going to be as confirming that he is going to

893
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: be starting Thanksgiving night versus the Ravens. He said that

894
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: during the press conference. Now some other local headlines that

895
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: we're covering for you this morning, cruispond to a three

896
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Speaker 2: alarm fire in Westchester. Several emergency agencies were called to

897
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: a fire at a manufacturing facility in Westchester. Fire broke

898
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: around three fifteen forty two hundred block of Thunderbird Lane

899
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: inside a commercial building. Westchester officials said everyone who was

900
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: inside the building made it out safely and there are

901
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: no threat to public stil the fire was so intense

902
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: that the cruise had to battle it from the outside

903
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: first to make sure that no one was injured. Talking

904
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Speaker 2: about the facility. It has happened producing matting for car floors.

905
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Speaker 2: Prince said, the owner of Chief Prins the fire chief.

906
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: The fire is reportedly a three alarm fire, resulting in

907
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: numerous departments responding to the scene. So again, floor mats.

908
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: That's going to have to be some sort of a

909
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: toxic problem there, But threat to the community is not there.

910
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: Community rallies around help after a Northern Kentucky family loses

911
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: fire loses everything to a fire. Northern Kentucky family is

912
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: safe tonight after fast moving the house fire destroyed everything

913
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Speaker 2: they own just days before the holiday season. Relatives say

914
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Speaker 2: the caught Ill family Sycamore Drive home went up in

915
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Speaker 2: flames around two am November sixteenth. According to Nicole hard

916
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Speaker 2: Reader hark Hearken Reader Homes, the homeowners sister, fire may

917
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: have started from faulty wiring connected to a fish tank

918
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: in the middle of the home. However, a lot of

919
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: the people in the community has come to the aid

920
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: of this family. They were talking about some of the

921
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: stuff that they've done as far as go fund me

922
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: trying to get this family back on their feet. And

923
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: I can't imagine a worse time well, having a fire

924
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: at any time during the year is bad, but generally

925
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Speaker 2: when you have a tragedy around a holiday season, that

926
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: then obviously marks that holiday season, but every holiday season

927
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: thereafter and there's always that constant reminder year after year

928
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: after year of that tragedy. So again, uh, hope everybody

929
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Speaker 2: is safe out there. Pay attention to what you're doing,

930
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: making sure make sure you don't overload certain circuits, don't

931
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: hook stuff up electrically. Electrically, especially when you're putting up lights,

932
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: make sure that they're outdoor type of chords that you

933
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Speaker 2: don't use inside chords for that, and be sure that

934
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Speaker 2: you're not overloading certain circuits. You don't want to cause

935
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: any fire this time of the year. So just a

936
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Speaker 2: little bit of the warning there. Coming up. We got

937
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: a little bit more in terms of I want to talk.

938
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Speaker 2: I keep wanting to talk about this, you know, inflation

939
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: that we're that we're either seeing or not seeing phone

940
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: numbers five one, three, seven four nine, fifty five hundred one,

941
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three eight seven four phone numbers

942
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three talk. Let's just go to

943
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Speaker 2: the news six thirty nine in the morning, Kevin Mordon

944
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: in for Brian Thomas fifty five K. See the talk

945
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: station phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty, five,

946
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: hundred one, eight hundred eighty two three talk one eight

947
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: hundred eight two three, eight two five five or a

948
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: pound five point fifty on that AT and T wireless phone.

949
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: To the phones we go, Let's talk to Bobby. Bobby,

950
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: how are you.

951
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 8: This morning, mister Gordon. It's a pleasure that it.

952
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: Is a pleasure to hear your voice. Let me tell

953
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: you that. Yeah, yeah, how are you.

954
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 8: I'm doing well, my friend.

955
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: It's been a while.

956
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 8: It's been a while, but I want to congratulate you

957
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 8: because we discussed conspiracy theories in the last few years

958
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 8: and they've all come to pass. I didn't know if

959
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 8: you had your crystal ball out.

960
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: Today you're not well. Yes, we do. You know when

961
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: you you know, as we've discussed in the past, it's

962
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: a matter of kind of seeing things from history, seeing

963
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: things the way they develop, and a good dose of

964
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: common sense. So you know, when you're thinking in terms

965
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: of something you know, we used to talk and being

966
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: a recovering accountant, you're talking in terms of stuff not

967
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: passing the smell test, and when something doesn't pass the

968
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: smell test. You know, certain people will tell you it's

969
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory, when in fact it is Actually you're

970
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: the one that's right. So yeah, it's interesting.

971
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 8: It's a lot of times they don't they it's not

972
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 8: what they tell you, it's not what they say exactly exactly.

973
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 8: They hide everything. It's no different than what came out

974
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 8: here a couple of weeks ago on the January fifth

975
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 8: d NC bomber. And they identified the individual. And I

976
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 8: don't want to save the name or anything like that,

977
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 8: but I mean they've rubbled some feathers. You know, the

978
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 8: security detail for Kamala Harris was involved, the Capitol Police

979
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 8: was involved, and they're scared to talk about it.

980
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. And the thing that irritates me the

981
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: most about a lot of these things in terms of

982
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: what we're not hearing, the things that you know are

983
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: not said, is that they treat us like we're children

984
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: for crying out loud. We are adults. Does anybody believe

985
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: that we still do we know exactly what happened with JFK,

986
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: with RFK, Martin Luther King Junior? Are we ever going

987
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: to know anything completely about what happened in Butler Pennsylvania.

988
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: What happened with Charlie Kirk. Are we going to know ever? Well,

989
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: we're starting to see a lot of the details as

990
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: far as the pandemic is concerned, a lot of the

991
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: lies and the stuff that we're done during that. But

992
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: you know the problem with conspiracy theories in the past

993
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: is I always fought the temptation to go down that path, Bob,

994
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: because when you look at the stuff and you say,

995
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: gee whiz, the only way two people can keep a

996
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: secret if if one of them's dead, and the conspiracies

997
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: would have to be so far reaching and so many

998
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: people involved that there'd be no way that they could

999
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: keep it quiet. But seeing what we did in the

1000
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: first Trump administration, the number of rats that came out

1001
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: of the woodwork to try to derail that. Yeah, there

1002
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: are a lot of people out there that are in

1003
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: these conspiracies.

1004
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 8: Well, I appreciate what you do, my friend. You you're

1005
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 8: the voice of the common man. Yeah, it's like across

1006
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 8: from the oak table with the kitchen. You know what

1007
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 8: I'm saying, that's always, that's always, that's what I like

1008
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 8: to hear, just the common man.

1009
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: What are your plans for Thanksgiving?

1010
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 8: My brother they're all great.

1011
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 7: No good for River.

1012
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 8: I've had Marin Nate and I'm gonna blow torch it

1013
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 8: in the morning to sear it in. Real good and

1014
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 8: just smoking out on the grill.

1015
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: Excellent. Well, be safe, okay, take care of you. I

1016
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: appreciate it, alrighty, take care, thank you. It just I

1017
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: love talking to him. I always look forward to talking

1018
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: him when I fill in. Let's go to the phones

1019
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: again and let's talk to Mic real quick, Mike fifty

1020
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: five K. See how are you this morning?

1021
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 9: Thank Kevin.

1022
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 8: A couple of things actually you're talking about the price

1023
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 8: is not coming downs. Like one thing, people understand. We

1024
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,479
Speaker 8: need to figure out how to get diesel prices down

1025
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 8: if you want good prices to.

1026
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: Come down, Yeah, exactly. And one of the problems with it,

1027
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: they're down like yeah.

1028
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 6: Gas prices, but diesel prices where they've been for the

1029
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 6: last two or three years.

1030
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Gall As a matter of fact,

1031
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: diesel prices, uh, because I do this on a daily basis.

1032
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: Look at you know what they were last week, the

1033
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 2: month before, and then last year and even going back

1034
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: as far as twenty twenty. And if you look at

1035
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: the prices this time this year, they are about twenty

1036
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: five cents higher than they were this time last year,

1037
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: whereas gas prices themselves are down somewhere between two three

1038
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: four cents a gallon from what they were last year. Now,

1039
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 2: what we're seeing is that the problem with diesel is

1040
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: that there's a heavy grade of crude that is necessary

1041
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: for that, and here in the United States, Brent crude

1042
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: is more of a light crude that we process from

1043
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: our oil wells. And you know, the thing I've not

1044
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: been able to figure out over the years is why

1045
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: don't we have the crude oil and the refineries geared

1046
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: to what we produce. We have to import a lot

1047
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: of heavy crude from Russia, Venezuela and some of these

1048
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: other countries in order to get that in, and then

1049
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 2: with the additives that have to be done as far

1050
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: as diesel are concerned, especially with the war in Ukraine

1051
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: and the energy prices there Venezuela, with the nonsense going

1052
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Speaker 2: on down there, some of these oil embargoes or some

1053
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: of these things that are going on that has disrupted

1054
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: that diesel area significantly. So there is a problem as

1055
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: far as that's concerned. But again, overall, yeah, you're right,

1056
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: trying to get inflation down, especially when those oil prices, well,

1057
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Speaker 2: the oil prices themselves are down. Uh, but the processing

1058
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: of particular diesel grades is what's up. And so that

1059
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: that is a problem that has to be dealt with.

1060
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 2: Are you are you are you a truck driver?

1061
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Speaker 4: No?

1062
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 10: I just notice that.

1063
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Speaker 8: I mean gas prices are coming down, but diesel stays

1064
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 8: right where it stays it.

1065
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 9: It's like people, people wonder.

1066
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 8: Why your favorite there.

1067
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 9: You gotta have a trick to get it to the gate.

1068
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. Well, thanks, Oh go ahead.

1069
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 7: He says that about the pandemic.

1070
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

1071
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 8: Scary thing is doctor Amy's running for governor.

1072
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that that's.

1073
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 10: Kind of scary.

1074
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: I hope some of her previous comments come out to

1075
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: haunt her when the campaign gets up and running, that's

1076
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: for sure. Well, Mike, I have a very safe Thanksgimming.

1077
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: You got a big plans for tomorrow. Oh okay, Well thanks.

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Speaker 2: Mike certainly appreciates phone call. Coming up next. We'll be

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Speaker 2: talking with Matt after the break. Phone number seven four

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Speaker 2: nine uh five one three seven four nine fifty five

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Speaker 2: hundred one eight hundred eight two three talk one eight

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Speaker 2: hundred eight two three eight two, five five pound, five

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Speaker 2: point fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in

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Speaker 2: for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the talk station

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Speaker 2: coming up on six fifty two in the morning. Kevin

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Speaker 2: Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR, See the

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Speaker 2: talk station. No, we won't get fooled again by any

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Speaker 2: of these cooples, well what they call us when we

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Speaker 2: talk about what they say or conspiracy theories. We're not

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Speaker 2: going to get fooled again because we know the facts,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to talk to facts, and of course

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Speaker 2: we're going to have an opinion or two along the way.

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Speaker 2: Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine fifty, five

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Speaker 2: hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one eight

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Speaker 2: three eight two, five five pound, fifty AT and T

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Speaker 2: wireless phone To the phones we go. Matt is on

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Speaker 2: the line. Matt fifty five, Carose, Welcome to the program,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning, Kevin. One way you can beat inflations

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Speaker 6: go to the different retailers websites every week, find out

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Speaker 6: what's on sale and stock up what's on sale. One

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Speaker 6: retailer had turkey for fifty nine cents pound. That's incredible.

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Speaker 6: Another retailer had it for forty nine cents pound. You

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Speaker 6: can't beat that.

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Speaker 2: I saw one of I saw one my friend of

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Speaker 2: thirty nine cents a pound.

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Speaker 6: Excellent. Great, go go there, stock up, buy those things.

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Speaker 6: And also if they have loyalty, sign up with the

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Speaker 6: loyalty because you'll get gas y retail cell gas. I

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Speaker 6: have been getting a dollar off a gallon for the

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Speaker 6: last five years on all my gas. I buy gas

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Speaker 6: once a month and I get of gas cans lined up.

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Speaker 6: I buy the Maxrommount of games. It's a ball off

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Speaker 6: a gallon. That's thirty three off of a three.

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Speaker 2: Dollars gallon exactly.

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Speaker 6: So you got to play the game. You gotta follow

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Speaker 6: the rules. That's how you beat the inflation.

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Speaker 2: Matt, are we related because you are? You are speaking mine.

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Speaker 2: You know we benefit from the area here in the

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Speaker 2: Tri state area. I mean we've got Kroger, we got Meyer,

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Speaker 2: We've got Aldie, We've got Fresh Time. Who am I

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Speaker 2: missing Remkey? Who else? Public? Public soon? And there is competition,

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Speaker 2: and you're right. You've got to go to the individual websites,

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Speaker 2: download their digital coupons and you can look at their

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Speaker 2: the circulars on a weekly basis. And if you notice,

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Speaker 2: if you get used to it, you'll notice that it

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Speaker 2: seems like certain it's like a three week cycle. If

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Speaker 2: you see coffee, I drink Folger's Blacks. I love the coffee.

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Speaker 2: About every three weeks they reduce that down. Normally it's

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Speaker 2: like sixteen ninety nine a can. It'll go down to

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Speaker 2: nine to ninety nine a can. So you stock up

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Speaker 2: Milt the same way you and the way I do

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Speaker 2: it is that if I'm going, if I know I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be in a certain area nor south east

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Speaker 2: west where either Kroger Meyer or whoever is, if they

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Speaker 2: have the cheapest price on something, I'll make it a

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Speaker 2: point to stop by there on my way home or

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Speaker 2: going to and from an appointment or something like that.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, like you said, you go around,

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Speaker 2: you shop for the bargains. Now I brag about the

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Speaker 2: fact here that you know on the loyalty card, I'll

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Speaker 2: just mention Kroger on the fact that their plus card. Now,

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Speaker 2: in the past, what I've tried to do. We are

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Speaker 2: a family to my wife and I, but the amount

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Speaker 2: of food I eat, we're a family of three, and

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to make sure that we were saving

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Speaker 2: about maybe one hundred dollars a month in terms of groceries.

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Speaker 2: We are closing in this month. By the end of

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Speaker 2: the month, we'll probably have saved almost two thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: in terms of our groceries just for this year. So

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Speaker 2: that's well above that one hundred dollars per month. And

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Speaker 2: it's and it's like you said, you've got to pay attention.

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Speaker 2: You just don't go in and grab something. You don't grab,

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Speaker 2: you know, things off the eye level, the better price

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Speaker 2: per ounce or whatever is down on the lower shelf

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Speaker 2: or the upper shelf for something along those lines. You

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Speaker 2: got to be grocery knowledgeable. And you're absolutely right that

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Speaker 2: dollar off a gallon really comes in handy, Matt, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. You have a very safe and happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: My friend Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine

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Speaker 2: fifty five one, eight hundred eight two three talk one

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Speaker 2: eight hundred two three eight two five five pound, five

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Speaker 2: point fifty AT and T wireless phone coming up. We've

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Speaker 2: got Guy Harper, a fellow that I met back in

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Speaker 2: August during that rally or that town hall meeting at

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Speaker 2: Jim and Jacks back in August. I'm Kevin Gordon in

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Speaker 2: for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC The Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on fifty five

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Speaker 1: KOs the Talk Station.

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Speaker 2: Seven oh six in the morning. If you listen, if

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Speaker 2: you looked at my Facebook page overnight, you'll know that

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Speaker 2: I post who my guests are going to be. And

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Speaker 2: my next guest, Guy Harper, I want to welcome him

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Speaker 2: to the program. I met Guy back in August during

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Speaker 2: that town hall meeting that Vivek Ramaswami and Corey Bowman

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Speaker 2: well actually had in the Jim and Jacks out there

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Speaker 2: after the riot basically the beatdown of those people the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati cops, you know, the whole beat down there. Well,

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Speaker 2: a woman got knocked out and so on, and this

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Speaker 2: was supposed to be a town hall meeting to kind

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Speaker 2: of clear the air and so on. And I met

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Speaker 2: Guy Harper, their Guy Harper, owner of Patriot Shop. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the program, Guy, Thanks for spending time.

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Speaker 7: With us, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: The reason I wanted to have you on, and we

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Speaker 2: talked about that night, is that you had some very

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Speaker 2: interesting comments to say about what was going on. And

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Speaker 2: you own this company called Patriots, So first of all,

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Speaker 2: tell us about Patriot Shop and what you do and

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Speaker 2: a little bit about your background.

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Speaker 11: All right, Well, Patriots Shop is our e commerce website.

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Speaker 7: We sell.

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Speaker 11: Trump apparel, conservative apparel, Second Amendment apparel, stuff like that

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Speaker 11: on there, and we've had Patriots Shops started back in

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Speaker 11: twenty nineteen. I'm a traveling vendor, so I do all

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Speaker 11: the Trump rallies when he has them all over the country.

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Speaker 11: I've been doing this since twenty twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: And you were at this, well, they it was a

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Speaker 2: town hall meeting, and the way they set this up, okay,

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Speaker 2: and the reporter talking about the crowd filled mostly with Republicans,

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Speaker 2: a few Democrats, which meant that there were few Klansmen

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Speaker 2: there because no Democrats were there. Supporters of GP coitorial

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Speaker 2: candidate Reffect Ramaswami. Ramaswami and former city council member Christopher

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Speaker 2: Smitherman hosted the town hall event and it started off

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Speaker 2: with a couple of comments, and then you had a

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Speaker 2: comment that you talked about in terms of the guy

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Speaker 2: that started talking about four hundred years of the inequity

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Speaker 2: and so on, and you had some very poignant things

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Speaker 2: to say about the Democratic Party. You care to mention

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Speaker 2: those again.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I was responding to this gentleman that he

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Speaker 11: was the first person that got up and spoke, and

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Speaker 11: he was a black man.

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Speaker 7: He was complaining about the.

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Speaker 11: Uh inequities and of black Americans, and they spoke a

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Speaker 11: little bit about slavery, and I just I just simply

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Speaker 11: responded to him. I told him the history of the

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Speaker 11: Democratic Party that they were, they started the klu Klux Klan,

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Speaker 11: they were the majority slave owners of blacks in America.

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Speaker 7: They were Jim Crow.

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Speaker 11: So if you want to if you want to stand

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Speaker 11: up here and complain about the inequities of blacks, you

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Speaker 11: should uh point your finger at the Democratic Party. So

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Speaker 11: I was just pointing that out because a lot of

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Speaker 11: people don't even know that the Democratic Party started the

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Speaker 11: klu Klux Klan and they they enact Jim Jim Crow

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Speaker 11: laws in the South, and that they were the primary

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Speaker 11: slave owners. So anytime someone anytime someone says that, I

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Speaker 11: want to tell him the history of the Democratic Party

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Speaker 11: and let them know that that's where that came from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And that is the thing that struck me

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Speaker 2: because I have been saying that for a number of years,

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Speaker 2: twenty years now, or better that pointing out what the

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party has done as far as blacks are concerned,

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Speaker 2: and quite honestly, what they're doing as far as illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrants right now. It's funny to me when you hear

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Speaker 2: about people saying, well, we've got to stand up for

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Speaker 2: these immigrant rights and so on, and then they followed

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Speaker 2: up with, well, who's gonna cut my lawn, who's going

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Speaker 2: to pick our crops, who's going to do this out

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Speaker 2: or the other thing. So what they're the Democrats are

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Speaker 2: trying to do is to basically create a new slave

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Speaker 2: class because apparently, well not apparently the first one didn't

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Speaker 2: work out for him, and we rebelled against that and

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Speaker 2: fought a civil war over that, and yet they are

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Speaker 2: still trying to have an underclass that they can basically

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Speaker 2: keep their foot on the back of their necks. And

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Speaker 2: so anyway, I found that very and surprise surprise, because

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Speaker 2: being traveling and going around, we communicated and I sent

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Speaker 2: you the article of how that story was reported, and surprise, surprise,

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Speaker 2: your comments weren't even mentioned.

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Speaker 11: Surprise, Yeah, well it I did read that article that

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Speaker 11: you sent me, and that anytime you get a person

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Speaker 11: that's a liberal or leans left. They'll they'll just deflect

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Speaker 11: or deny it. That part of uh, that part of

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Speaker 11: history in our country. They never want to talk and

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Speaker 11: they just deflect and deny. Even my parents are Democrats

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Speaker 11: and they don't, uh, they don't ever want to talk

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Speaker 11: about it.

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Speaker 7: It leads to like tension in our families.

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Speaker 11: So they will always deflect and deny that part of

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Speaker 11: American history.

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Speaker 2: It's it's amazing how when you speak the truth, when

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Speaker 2: you talk about facts, how people are offended by that.

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Speaker 2: And that creates a problem. And I think mainly because

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Speaker 2: one of the problems is is that you now have

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Speaker 2: changed something that they've believed their entire lives. Going back

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Speaker 2: to when the Berlin Wall fell and the USSR collapsed,

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Speaker 2: there were people who were in their seventies that had

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Speaker 2: known nothing else but the USSR. So the USSR telling

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Speaker 2: them that the reason their economy was failing or the

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Speaker 2: crops didn't come in, it was the US doing something

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Speaker 2: with the weather and creating that, or there was always

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Speaker 2: some excuse while there was crop failure. And what it

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Speaker 2: was was that communism is a failed system and will

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Speaker 2: never work. And so all of a sudden, the Iron

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Speaker 2: Curtain fell and these people were like, I've been lied

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Speaker 2: to for seven years, seventy years, what do I do?

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Speaker 2: And I think as you talk about with family members

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Speaker 2: and stuff, they've had this belief system for so long.

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Speaker 2: When you try to shatter that, that shatters basically their

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Speaker 2: entire existence.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 11: It's it's it's it's what's known as cognitive dissonance.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that that is what that is.

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Speaker 11: What happens to people's mind when they can't when their

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Speaker 11: believe when their beliefs don't match up with with what

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Speaker 11: they what they think and know.

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Speaker 7: So it's called cognitive dissonance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Now one of the things you mentioned is

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Speaker 2: that in your business you travel around so well, First

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Speaker 2: of all, I guess when you're traveling around, what are

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Speaker 2: you hearing on the ground as far as individual people?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Where you know, because obviously you know at the rallies

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Speaker 2: you're going to see like minded people. But as you're traveling,

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Speaker 2: you're going to run into all kinds of different people, uh,

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Speaker 2: at rest areas, at a different you know, where you're

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Speaker 2: staying or whatever. What are you seeing as far as

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Speaker 2: the people out there and the grassroots support or non support,

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Well? It's when I first hearded doing this.

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Speaker 11: Back in twenty eighteen, Uh, there was a lot of

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Speaker 11: pushback against Trump and and MAGA, the MAGA movement and

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Speaker 11: the Republican Party. There's a lot of pushback. People, you know,

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Speaker 11: they would say, they would call me all. I've been

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Speaker 11: called every name in the book. I've been called the

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Speaker 11: white supremacists. I've been called the N word. But this

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Speaker 11: is back then, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty. But now now

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Speaker 11: the you know, a ship has occurred because you know

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Speaker 11: Trump uh won twenty sixteen. He did win twenty twenty,

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Speaker 11: but it was stolen. But and he won twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 11: So now there's not there's much less pushback. There's much

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Speaker 11: more acceptance of Trump and his agenda now. But back

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Speaker 11: then there was pushback. But it's less pushback now. But

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Speaker 11: I've been called every name in the book out there.

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Speaker 11: I've had chewing tobacco spit tossed at me, So I

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Speaker 11: mean it nothing violent. I've had I've had a couple

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Speaker 11: Karen's come up and snatch T shirts off the table

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Speaker 11: at a lady in New York City, snatched a Trump

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Speaker 11: Trump flag and ran down the block.

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Speaker 7: But I chased her and got it back.

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Speaker 11: But but it was it was early pushback and then

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Speaker 11: it's it's it's it's has subsided.

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Speaker 2: Now, oh, that's very interesting. I'm kind of surprised by that.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that the terminology would have come

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Speaker 2: to you're a fascist, that you're a Hitler or something,

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Speaker 2: a Hitler supporter or something along those lines. We need

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Speaker 2: to pick this up. We got to take a quick

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Speaker 2: break here. Can you hang with us for another segment? Sure, okay,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. My guest is Guy Harper, owner Patriot Shop,

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Speaker 2: a guy that I met people who may not remember this,

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Speaker 2: but back at that town hall meeting back in August.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC,

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Speaker 2: the Talk Station seven twenty in the morning. Kevin Gordon

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Speaker 2: in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC, the Talk Station.

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Speaker 2: My guest is Guy Harper. He is owner of Patriot Shop,

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Speaker 2: and he sells Trump merchandise and travels around the country

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Speaker 2: to various Trump rallies in certain events. And so I

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Speaker 2: met him at the town hall meeting that was held

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Speaker 2: by Christopher Smitherman and Vivek Ramaswami. Shortly after two weeks

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Speaker 2: after that violent street fight or actually near riot, actually

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, and there was a town hall meeting set

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Speaker 2: up to discuss this and to try to find some

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Speaker 2: sort of a pathway to healing, or to try to

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Speaker 2: get sides together, or to try to find out ways

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Speaker 2: of combating this. And I met Guy at this event

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Speaker 2: and again had some very poignant things to say and

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Speaker 2: was not even quoted in the following story. And people

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Speaker 2: may say, Kevin, you're relitigating something that happened several months ago.

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Speaker 2: But this is key because what we're getting from the

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Speaker 2: spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media. And this needs

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Speaker 2: to be a lesson that anybody that's ever been interviewed

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Speaker 2: by somebody from the press, they are always shocked by

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Speaker 2: what the story is written and the comments that they made,

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Speaker 2: because they only take pieces of that. And in some cases,

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Speaker 2: it's not the news that we get, it's the news

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Speaker 2: that's left out. And that's why I wanted to have

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Speaker 2: Guy Harper on here and again because Guy, you go

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Speaker 2: around to these different places, you travel around the country,

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Speaker 2: and so you kind of have your finger on the

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Speaker 2: pulse better than a lot of people as far as

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Speaker 2: what's going on out there. So again, thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us this morning.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, sir for having me happy to do it.

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Speaker 2: Now, I guess, Wenna quickly, what what got you into

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Speaker 2: this in the first place, or what what what made

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Speaker 2: you decide to do this?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 11: I learned the the apparel business of screen printing business

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Speaker 11: as a side hustle when I when I was in college.

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Speaker 11: Actually we started at Ohio State football game, selling T

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Speaker 11: shirts there and then I I went back to school,

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Speaker 11: got married, had a family, and my ex wife left

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Speaker 11: me and I was working as a as an accountant

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Speaker 11: and in the Richmond, Virginia area.

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Speaker 12: And.

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Speaker 11: After she left me, I you know, it was a

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Speaker 11: very hectic time for me. Uh So, I I just

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Speaker 11: I just was not I didn't want to do accounting

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Speaker 11: work anymore.

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Speaker 7: So I called my friend.

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Speaker 11: Who who kept He started with us back in college,

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Speaker 11: but he he kept at it for like and he

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Speaker 11: kept doing it, so he was very experiencing successful for

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Speaker 11: the last thirty years.

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Speaker 7: I called him and he told me to meet him

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Speaker 7: in d C. And we did.

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Speaker 11: The that year, the Washington Capitalist won the NHL Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 7: So he told me to meet him there and I did.

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Speaker 11: The I worked the Stanley Cup pray for him, and

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Speaker 11: then after that he him and I worked out a

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Speaker 11: consignment deal for his truck merch I was working for

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Speaker 11: him under him for a year, and after that year

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Speaker 11: I did so well I bought him out of all

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Speaker 11: of his Trump merchandise, and I've been going.

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Speaker 7: I started my own company after that.

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Speaker 2: That is a fantastic story. And even more, he would

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Speaker 2: hire her on the same way. Like I am a

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Speaker 2: recovering accountant myself, having spent thirty years in the accounting business.

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Speaker 2: Did you grow up in Ohio? You mentioned Ohio state

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Speaker 2: that you went to.

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Speaker 11: The Yeah, I grew up in Shaker Heights, Ohio, suburb

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Speaker 11: of Cleveland, Eastside suburb of Cleveland, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: And a recovering accountant yourself. That's a yes, great, but

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Speaker 2: I get and again, you know, traveling around, are you

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Speaker 2: seeing still the momentum, are you still seeing the grassroots

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Speaker 2: movement support and kind of pushing out the negativity from

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Speaker 2: as I call them, the spoon fed regurgitators, And are

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Speaker 2: you still you know, enthusiastic about what you're seeing as

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Speaker 2: far as the country is concerned.

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Speaker 7: Well, well, you know, people or people know that well,

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Speaker 7: right back up.

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Speaker 11: A lot of people on the left don't know that

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Speaker 11: they're being spoon fed by the mainstream media.

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Speaker 7: Most people on the right do. So a lot of

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Speaker 7: people on the left still don't know most most people

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Speaker 7: on the right do.

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Speaker 11: But the enthusiasm has uh, it's it's tapered off. Is

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Speaker 11: tapered off with the especially with the Trump Marjorie Taylor

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Speaker 11: Green Thomas see Epstein files saga that has split the.

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Speaker 7: MAGA base and splintered the Mega base.

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Speaker 11: People people, a lot of people you know, are just

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Speaker 11: very They're just arguing about it.

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Speaker 7: That's what I see on social media. And it's tapered off.

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Speaker 11: Although after the Charlie Kirk assassination, we sold a lot

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Speaker 11: of the Freedom the Freedom shirts and Freedom hoodies and

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Speaker 11: hats and stuff like that. And so I'm traveling around

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Speaker 11: during Turning Point events as well. So the vek Ramaswami

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Speaker 11: will be at the University of Cincinnati on December first

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Speaker 11: at a Turning Point action event on December first at

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Speaker 11: University of Cincinnati. I will be there then. I think

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Speaker 11: the next one is December third at Miami. I believe

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Speaker 11: it's Miami, Miami of Ohio, but I have to double

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Speaker 11: check that. So EV's gonna be December first, University of

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Speaker 11: Cincinnati December third, and Miami. It's a Turning Point action event,

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Speaker 11: So I'll be at both of those events.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Fantastic, and I would say that if anybody's going

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Speaker 2: to that event, make it a point to go to

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Speaker 2: that event so you can meet Guy Harper, because he

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Speaker 2: is a great guy and I love what you're doing

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Speaker 2: as far as going around and traveling around and selling

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Speaker 2: this Trump merchandise. By the way, for people, if they

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Speaker 2: want to get in contact with you or your company,

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Speaker 2: they can go.

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Speaker 11: To www dot Patriot Shop dot today.

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Speaker 7: That's Patriot Shop dot today. That's our website.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's not the p it is Patriot Shop again

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Speaker 2: today dot today. Okay, any phone number you want to

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Speaker 2: give out or or just having them our website.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they could just go to the website, okay, and

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01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 11: they could if they want to send me a message,

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Speaker 11: they can message me on the website.

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Speaker 2: Well, guy, all the best to you. I hope nothing

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Speaker 2: but success for you. Be safe out there on the road,

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Speaker 2: you know, again, traveling around it's always you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: can be very difficult and especially in certain areas. Just

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Speaker 2: travel safe, and be safe. I appreciate your time. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you being with us this morning. And we've got

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Speaker 2: any big, big plans for Thanksgiving or.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm headed to DC to meet my family there.

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Speaker 2: Very good again, travel safe, my friend, and hopefully it

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Speaker 2: can catch you on the first or the third, depending

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Speaker 2: upon which rally I can make it to again, Guy Harper,

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Speaker 2: owner Patriot Shop. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 2: fifty five KRC, the Talk station seven thirty one in

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Speaker 2: the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five

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Speaker 2: kr SE the Talk Stations, A littlettle roadhouse blues there

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Speaker 2: for the traveling guy Harper out there on the highways

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Speaker 2: with his Trump merch and just a very interesting guy,

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Speaker 2: a very fascinating guy. I was great meeting him months ago,

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Speaker 2: and I been wanting to have him on ever since.

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Speaker 2: We talked to the phones we go by the way

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Speaker 2: seven five one three, seven eight two three talk pound

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Speaker 2: five fifty AT and T wireless phone. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: the phone soon. Do we want to go up first here? Danny,

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Speaker 2: Let's go with Brian. Brian. I think Brian was on

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Speaker 2: the It was at the top of the hour and

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Speaker 2: called back, I certainly appreciate it, Brian. How are you

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Speaker 2: this morning? Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 10: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 8: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I am doing great, fantastic behind the microphone. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: get any better than that for me.

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Speaker 10: Okay, Well, I remember listening to you, oh gosh, back

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Speaker 10: during the first Trump uh run, and you seem really

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Speaker 10: jazzed about the Mike Pence. In retrospect, are you a

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Speaker 10: bit disappointed?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely. Not only am I disappointed with Mike Pence

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Speaker 2: the way he turned out, but I'm also disappointed with

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Speaker 2: Mike Congressman in Northern Kentucky Thomas Massey. Now, Mike Pence

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Speaker 2: I met when I was I was doing a radio

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Speaker 2: show in Richmond, Indiana at the time, and he was

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Speaker 2: the congressman at the time, and I got to meet him,

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Speaker 2: and I really thought the stuff that he was talking about,

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Speaker 2: the conservative stuff that he was talking about, I thought

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Speaker 2: was absolutely fantastic. When he was chosen as a VP,

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Speaker 2: I thought, man, this is this is great. Somewhere along

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Speaker 2: the line, I don't know what happened. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: you know, he left Congress, he became the governor of Indiana,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, got on the Trump ticket and

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Speaker 2: was at least originally very enthusiastic. I don't know what

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01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 2: happened to him. I've never really heard what he's talked about,

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01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: but him going off the rails in the twenty twenty election,

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01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: I thought was kind of how should I say, disingenuous,

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01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 2: not recognizing what actually happened, and the fact that he

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01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: has been so outspoken against Trump since then has been

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01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: a very big disappointment to me. And I can't believe

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01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: that it's the same guy that I knew back in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three when I first met him. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Interesting, what about the Massy I don't you know, you

1513
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 10: seem to interact with these people more than I do.

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Speaker 10: So what is it? I mean, what is it that

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01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 10: that kind of rubbs your wrong way with Massy?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I just you know, the one thing about me, Brian,

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01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 2: is that nobody ever walks away from a conversation with

1518
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 2: me and says, gee, I don't know how he feels

1519
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 2: about this subject. I had Thomas Massey and I have

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Speaker 2: I will go into this in a little while. Because

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01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 2: of my street credit. I got some serious street cred

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01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: with Thomas Massey, but in a nutshell, been a big

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01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 2: supporter of his, had been a big supporter of his.

1524
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: I had him on the program the Wednesday before that

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01:29:56,280 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 2: January sixth confirmation of the electoral results. He had been

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01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: on the He had been wavering, he had made commitment

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01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 2: one way or the other. I asked him, what are

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01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 2: you thinking of doing as far as this confirmation? Are

1529
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 2: you going to object to it? And he goes, I'm

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01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: kind of on the fence. I don't know which way

1531
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to go, but I think I'm going to

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Speaker 2: vote to confirm. And I said why. I said, because basically,

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Speaker 2: what you're doing is you're discounting and you're tossing out

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01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 2: the votes of all the people from Kentucky. You are

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01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 2: basically disenfranchising this. And he goes, hey, no, your votes,

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01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 2: our votes are going to be counted because it's part

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01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 2: of the electoral process. And I pointed out to him,

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01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: and you know, he's a constitutionalist. He says that he

1539
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 2: follows the Constitution. According to the Constitution, the results or

1540
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: the election in a state is supposed to be done

1541
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 2: and regulated by the state legislature. In Pennsylvania, it was

1542
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 2: regulated and formulated by judges, so it was unconstitutional election

1543
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 2: that year and those votes should have been challenged at

1544
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: least to pres present a challenge. We argued back and forth.

1545
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 2: He said, I don't think that you know that this

1546
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: is a process, aware that this should be stopped, or

1547
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 2: something along those lines. And I said, I said, Thomas,

1548
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that our founding fathers, who came up

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01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,759
Speaker 2: with this constitution, with the two you know, with House

1550
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: in the Senate, you know, the three branches of government,

1551
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 2: the legislature, the executive, and the judiciary, would come up

1552
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,759
Speaker 2: with something and say, okay, when it comes to confirm

1553
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 2: these electors that it's just a rubber stamp. Well, if

1554
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 2: it's that, then why have the hearing, why have the

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01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 2: vote in the Congress in the first place. It's an

1556
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 2: opportunity to object to this, he said. At that time,

1557
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 2: you gave me a lot to think about, and I

1558
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: still haven't made my decision. That Sunday he came out

1559
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 2: with a letter saying that he was going to vote

1560
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 2: to confirm. He signed this letter with five other people,

1561
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 2: one who had just been sworn in that night, and

1562
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: four other no name congres Risman, just to make a

1563
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 2: point to be contrary, I think, to probably get back

1564
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 2: at Trump for Trump trashing him back during the bailout

1565
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 2: bill that was before Congress months ago. But they did

1566
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 2: campaign together. They shared webs or you know, they shared

1567
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 2: endorsements and so on. I don't know why he turned

1568
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 2: on Trump that day and why they didn't at least

1569
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 2: postpone or at least hold up some roadblocks and put

1570
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: the spotlight on what happened in these various states. I

1571
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 2: think he quite honestly, I think he betrayed the people

1572
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 2: of Kentucky by just rubber stamping this confirmation process. So

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01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 2: that's where my rub with Thomas Massey has come. Plus

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01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 2: there's and I've gone a little bit over time up

1575
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 2: against a break here, but some of the other votes

1576
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 2: that he's taken in Congress and now kind of smack

1577
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 2: very close to being very anti Semitic, and that's an

1578
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 2: area that I really have a problem with in terms

1579
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: of people in Congress. Again, that's that's my take on it.

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Speaker 10: All right, Thank you very much, all right, bro, Thanks

1581
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 10: you all right.

1582
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 2: Take care. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine fifty,

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01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 2: five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one

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Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three A two five five pound,

1585
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: five fifty at and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in

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01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 2: for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRE See the talk station

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Speaker 2: seven forty two in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the talk station. Phone

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Speaker 2: numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty, five, hundred one,

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01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred eight

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Speaker 2: two three eight two five five and pound five point

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Speaker 2: fifty on that AT and T phone. Let's go back

1593
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 2: to the phones and speak with Steve. Steve, Happy, Thanksgiving, Eve,

1594
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 2: welcome to the program. Thanks for calling banks.

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01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 7: Thanks same same to you.

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01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 12: I feel like you're my brother from another mother, and you.

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01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 2: Know there's a lot of that going on these days. Steve,

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01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 2: let me tell you you okay, exactly, okay.

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Speaker 9: Anyway, we are.

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01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 12: We are very aligned on a lot of things. But

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01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 12: I wanted to see have you heard of ibu Gang.

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01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 12: It's spelled ib o.

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01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 9: G A I n E.

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01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: I think I've heard No, I know. I got to

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01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: say honestly, no, I've heard it, but I don't know

1606
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:30,879
Speaker 2: anything about it.

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01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 12: The fact that people don't know about it, I find

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01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,480
Speaker 12: to be quite disturbing.

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01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I'm disturbing you this morning.

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01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 12: Yeah, no, no, no, it's not very except for people

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01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 12: I've talked to.

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01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:49,759
Speaker 10: And there are two.

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01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 12: Premiere podcast you've heard of Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan twenty

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01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 12: two fifty one was about a year ago, and that

1615
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 12: was an awesome podcast. It's like three hours long, so

1616
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 12: it's not a it's not a quick listen, but it's

1617
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 12: it'll draw you in.

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01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,480
Speaker 7: And then also THEO Vaughn.

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01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 12: Which prior to Trump I never heard of Theos. He

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01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 12: has an episode five ninety six. Now Theo's is like

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01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 12: two hours long. In the last section of that, the

1622
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 12: last thirty forty minutes, it's pretty damning for our fascist

1623
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 12: In Frankfurt, Andy fired a gentleman by the name of

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01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 12: Brian Hubbard who was the executive death director of the

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01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 12: American IBU Gang and Initiatives. I BEI Gang is a

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01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,520
Speaker 12: Schedule one drug. It's not an arcotic, it's not a psychedelic.

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01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 9: However, if you give it.

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01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,959
Speaker 12: And you don't replace magnesium, you can go into serious

1629
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 12: fatal arrhythmias torsades to the point however, once they learned how

1630
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 12: to handle that, if you have a if you replace

1631
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 12: magnies and you have a crash cart at hand, it

1632
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 12: can safely be administered.

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01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 2: Well, that seems to be pretty scary in terms of

1634
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 2: if you have to have something on hand when you're

1635
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 2: taking a particular drug. What is this drug supposed to do?

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01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 9: Okay, it is.

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01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 12: It is is God's medicine. It comes from Western Africa.

1638
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 12: It has been shown to treat PTSD, serious drug addictions,

1639
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 12: things like even SSRIs and other things, a lot of

1640
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 12: things that are fatal if not treat it. I worked

1641
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 12: thirty seven years at Saint Luke's Saint Elizabeth, and I

1642
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 12: watched how many lives destroyed by drug addiction, alcohol addiction,

1643
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 12: all these other things. It can if it can reverse

1644
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 12: those things. I mean with your connections, I don't know

1645
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 12: if you're I hope you're back on BEFO before the

1646
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 12: new year again. If you can reach out to Marcus Latrell.

1647
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 12: Have you ever heard of him?

1648
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 4: Oh?

1649
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, American sniper.

1650
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 12: He's a Navy Seal, American hero. He is part of

1651
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 12: the Americans for Ibucuine initiative, which is brand new.

1652
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 7: Their website.

1653
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 12: Last time I looked at it was brand new and

1654
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 12: it didn't have a whole lot on there. I didn't

1655
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 12: have a link ahead. If you go to Americans for Ibucane.

1656
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 12: It'll bring you to a link that will take you

1657
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,480
Speaker 12: right to the Joe Rogan episode.

1658
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 2: All right, well, Steve, I will dig into this and

1659
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 2: I will get more knowledgeable about this, and next time

1660
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 2: I'm on maybe we can chat again.

1661
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 12: Hopefully, So hopefully, hopefully I'll get to talk to you again.

1662
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 12: And actually i'd like to buy you and Tara lunch

1663
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 12: if you'd be willing. I've never shook your hand before.

1664
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Well, we can maybe contact through Facebook

1665
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: or some other connections and so on along those lines.

1666
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 2: But anyway, appreciate the phone call. Hope you have a

1667
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: very good Thanksgiving. Phone numbers five months, seven hundred eight

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01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 2: two three Talk one eight hundred two three eight two

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01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 2: five five pound, five point fifty AT and T wireless phone.

1670
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC, The

1671
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 2: Talk State, seven fifty one in the morning. Kevin Gordon

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01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 2: in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC, The Talk Station.

1673
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite songs, Danny. I appreciate that.

1674
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:38,719
Speaker 2: Of course we can't play the can't play the chorus

1675
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,600
Speaker 2: of that. We had to hit the dump button on

1676
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 2: that anyway, we I'm gonna I want to talk to

1677
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:49,799
Speaker 2: you real quickly here on the phone. Bob Wederer, great friend.

1678
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 2: UH known him for a couple of years, several years

1679
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, and uh, the person who

1680
01:38:55,960 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 2: does the Wish Tree Foundation, Bob, Welcome to the program, morning, Kevin.

1681
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 8: How are you very good?

1682
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 2: How are you good?

1683
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 4: Good?

1684
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 9: Well, we're in the season. All the tree should be

1685
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 9: up hopefully. Okay, some may still meet a tree they

1686
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 9: can call.

1687
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 2: When did you When did you start putting those up?

1688
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 9: Well? Some people started first November, okay, but a lot

1689
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,639
Speaker 9: of them are waiting until after Thanksgiving the tradition.

1690
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 2: Okay. So for people that may not be familiar with us,

1691
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 2: which there may be, tell us about the program.

1692
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 9: Well, the programs in this forty first year, and it

1693
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 9: started at Beachmont Mall with one tree for alder Crests

1694
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 9: and now it's grown to little over three hundred trees

1695
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:54,480
Speaker 9: and it's all schools. The orphan eage is and there's nursing.

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01:39:54,160 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: Homes excellent, excellent, And the Wish Tree is the trees

1697
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Speaker 2: that are there. There is what on the tree.

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01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 9: There's tags, uh huh. And for thirty years, Jim Scott

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01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 9: was the spokesperson. Then Steg Dennison came along when Jim retired,

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01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 9: and then Brian came along about five six years ago.

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01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 9: So that's how it runs. And basically, you pull a

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01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 9: tag off the tree, go buy a gift, either delivered

1703
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 9: by Amazon or one of those are you send it

1704
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 9: are you can bring it back to the location you

1705
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 9: got it and we'll pick it up and make sure

1706
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 9: it gets delivered.

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01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 2: I think we have a tree at the go Ahead.

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01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 9: The Purple People Bridge has a tree. Oh fantastic, and

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01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 9: I've already refilled it last Sunday. Last Saturday we put

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01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 9: another one hundred and fifty ornaments because it was that

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01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 9: low already.

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01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 2: Now curious, this just popped in my head of the

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01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 2: tags that are on there, do you track them in

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01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 2: terms of okay, they're gone from the tree and we

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Speaker 2: got a gift back from that, or do you know?

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01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 9: You just I don't know anymore. It used to be

1717
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 9: when we used to pick up everything, we could track everything,

1718
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 9: but now it's there's so many people, there's so many

1719
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 9: people who use Amazon and use all those delivery services

1720
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 9: UPS's and all. We can't track any Okay, I don't

1721
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:29,640
Speaker 9: want to tell how much they have.

1722
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't I don't want to put ideas into

1723
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 2: miscreants minds, but it would seem to me that some

1724
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 2: people could actually go and just grab those things and

1725
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 2: do nothing with the tags. Hopefully the people that are

1726
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 2: taking the tags are actually buying a gift and participating

1727
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 2: in the program.

1728
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 9: So well, we do get some that call me in

1729
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 9: January February says I just found them on my dining

1730
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 9: room table. They go buy it. You know, there's morning Christmas.

1731
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 9: So they go buy the gift and they call us

1732
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 9: and we go pick it up because you know, some

1733
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 9: of the stuff turns out they have to use for

1734
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 9: the children's are the senior's birthday, or they're having a

1735
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 9: bad day, or they do something nice, so they do

1736
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 9: use some of the gifts that way.

1737
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh, very good, very good. All right, well, Bob, we're

1738
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 2: up against clock here. I certainly appreciate calling in and

1739
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 2: uh all the best. Oh, if people want to be

1740
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:27,799
Speaker 2: in contact or.

1741
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 9: The website, the website the wish tree dot com. But

1742
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 9: they can also call the hotline five one three eight

1743
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 9: five two five.

1744
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 2: Okay, once again, that hotline.

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01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 9: Is five one three eight five two one eight nine five.

1746
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Eight nine five. All right, thank you very much. We'll

1747
01:42:57,040 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 2: be in touch and uh, I'll be talking to you soon, all.

1748
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 9: Right, real quick. Yes, spaghetti dinner is December twentieth in

1749
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 9: Sanna will be at that. And now it's at the

1750
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 9: United Methodist Church on cloth and that's for lighting of

1751
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 9: the tower.

1752
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 2: Okay, the Washington tell you there. All right, yeah, all right, Bob,

1753
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: thank you so much for calling in. Certainly appreciate it.

1754
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 2: Coming up top the hour, I guess since somebody well

1755
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 2: call her earlier it kind of stoke this. I want

1756
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about Thomas Massey and some

1757
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 2: of the problems I have with his stance on things

1758
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 2: and kind of give you reasons for that. So coming

1759
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 2: up we'll be talking a little bit about that in

1760
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,759
Speaker 2: the next hour five one three, seven, four nine fifty

1761
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 2: five eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred

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Speaker 2: eighty two three eight two five five pound five point

1763
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 2: fifty at and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for

1764
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas fifty five K see the talk station.

1765
01:43:56,320 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: And now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on

1766
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 1: fifty five KOs the talk station.

1767
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 2: Right seven minutes after eight o'clock on this Thanksgiving Eve Day.

1768
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in. Phone numbers five one, three, seven,

1769
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 2: four nine fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred two three

1770
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 2: talk one eight hundred eight two three eight two five

1771
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 2: five pound five point fifty on that AT and T

1772
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 2: wireless phone holding through the break. We want to talk

1773
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 2: to John here real quick, John fifty five K see

1774
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 2: how are you this morning?

1775
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 4: Oh?

1776
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 9: How how?

1777
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 4: How?

1778
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,560
Speaker 2: How there you go? Absolutely so?

1779
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. The last time I called, when I hung up,

1780
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 4: I heard you say, well, who'd that guy play with?

1781
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 4: I was calling about what a third world country reading

1782
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 4: roads turned into? And I was fighting music. Anyway. I

1783
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 4: played with Joe Duskins. They're Joe Duskins. Uh, Albert Washington's

1784
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 4: Big d Thompson's I played with their all the all

1785
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:29,600
Speaker 4: the major but everybody from Chess Records in Cincinnati, fantastic.

1786
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 4: They called me the wheat boy when I first started

1787
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 4: playing drums in the black community. In a way, they.

1788
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 5: Called me the weak boy because they used to say,

1789
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 5: he's not quite white yet, and he's not quite black.

1790
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 4: That's our weak boy.

1791
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 2: And how did you how'd you wind up hooking up

1792
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 2: with these folks?

1793
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 4: Uh? There was a little club on Reading Road called

1794
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 4: the Harmony Club, and it was the greatest hole in

1795
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 4: the wall club of all time. Like to report to

1796
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:05,719
Speaker 4: the point where but those days are all gone. Let's

1797
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 4: ast forward. You can forget those days. There's not They're

1798
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 4: not ever coming back, and the politics have destroyed those

1799
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 4: But the reason why I called in is also I

1800
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 4: wanted to uh. On Friday, Brian Thomas was talking about

1801
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 4: Somalians and the Somalian invasion and everything. Yes, and I

1802
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,759
Speaker 4: had a great Somalian invasion when I lived here. Here's

1803
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 4: your old legal alien story. It's in my novel Million

1804
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 4: Dollar Hands. When I lived in Chicago. So I'm not

1805
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 4: late for a gig. Just moved to Chicago. I'm on Kadzie. Okay,

1806
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 4: so payti. I'm on Kadzie. And they said, don't take

1807
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 4: the purple cab, they're always trouble. Well I was running late,

1808
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 4: so I jumped in a purple cab. Anyway, Well it's

1809
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 4: the Themalian cab driver with music. It's smelled like a

1810
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 4: garbage truck. I'm not even kidding. I'm like, you can't

1811
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 4: even believe this, But so I get to I get

1812
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 4: your Kadzy was playing at the El Gatto and I

1813
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 4: get at the cat, I get at the El Gatto,

1814
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 4: and I just throw the money on the seat because

1815
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 4: I'm in a hurry to get out and he's got

1816
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 4: music so out and he jumps out like I didn't

1817
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 4: pay him. I said, it's on the seat if you

1818
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 4: were paying attention. And when I looked up there I

1819
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 4: saw a crack pipe on the seat.

1820
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,719
Speaker 2: Oh no, man, this is no joke.

1821
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 4: This is a very serious story, and that's what people

1822
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 4: need to understand and do when it comes to So

1823
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 4: I said, I paid you, it's on the seat, and

1824
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 4: he still doesn't believe me, and he's speaking in whatever

1825
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 4: language they speak it and the guy grabbed my shirt.

1826
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 4: He grabbed me like like he physically grabbed me, and

1827
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 4: I punched him and knocked him out cold. Well, of course,

1828
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 4: there were, of course, there were some due goodie left

1829
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 4: wing college kids who saw me punch the guy and

1830
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 4: knocked him out after he grabbed me, after he grabbed me,

1831
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 4: after he grabbed me and threatened me. And then I

1832
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 4: went into the club and the lady says, you better

1833
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 4: go hide because when the police come there and arrest you,

1834
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 4: and I'm like, arrest me. He attacked me first, it's

1835
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 4: a clear case cut as self defense. He's like, I

1836
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 4: saw it. I didn't believe it. I wanted to believe

1837
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 4: in the police and all.

1838
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, how long ago was that?

1839
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 4: This was like about six years ago? No, no, no

1840
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 4: longer than that, like probably over ten. But anyway, I said,

1841
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 4: the police came, they did arrest me. But instead of

1842
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 4: like just rolling over and everything, I said, you know what,

1843
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 4: I want a jury trial. So I went to court.

1844
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,799
Speaker 4: I got a lawyer. I actually got a public defender.

1845
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 4: I took a jury trial. And the guy came to

1846
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,520
Speaker 4: court and because we had to sit there all afternoon

1847
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 4: and wait, the cab driver started cussing out the judge

1848
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 4: because he didn't think he should be there all day.

1849
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 5: Do you see the entitlement that the scum have that

1850
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 5: these people think they or he started touching up the

1851
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:04,719
Speaker 5: judge and the judge said, miss.

1852
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 4: The judge said, I would have done the same thing.

1853
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 2: Get out of here exactly. So well, is a very

1854
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 2: good point. Yeah, we need to we need to make

1855
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 2: sure that we vet the people that come into this country.

1856
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 2: There shouldn't be this open door policy just flow of

1857
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 2: a fly, you know, fly open the doors and let

1858
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 2: anybody come in, people need to be vetted, they need

1859
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 2: to go to a process, and they need to assimilate

1860
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 2: into this country. They should not be able to turn

1861
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 2: this country into the country that they came from that

1862
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 2: they claimed they were free fleeing from as refugees and

1863
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: seeking asylum in this country. It's not an invasion to

1864
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 2: turn this into their country. It's for them to assimilate

1865
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 2: into ours. And I think that's an extremely important point.

1866
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 2: So anyway, I appreciate the phone call I got talking

1867
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 2: about this in the previous segment, and I want to

1868
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 2: kind of set the stage here before we have to

1869
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 2: step out for a quick break. Thomas Massey over the

1870
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: last couple of years in particular, has been kind of

1871
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 2: a well, I'll just flat out say it been a

1872
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 2: very much disappointment to me as far as where he

1873
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 2: stands in what he is doing. Now. I want to

1874
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 2: set the stage here, Okay.

1875
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 7: I have.

1876
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 2: What I feel is a tremendous amount of street cred

1877
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 2: as far as Thomas Massey is concerned. When Thomas Massey

1878
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 2: first came on the scene in twenty twelve, we had

1879
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 2: a business organization we had formed in northern Kentucky to

1880
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 2: fight with some of these tax increases and so on.

1881
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 2: And as this business community, our business group, we had

1882
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 2: at one time one hundred and forty five members, one

1883
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 2: of the fastest growing groups in the area. We held

1884
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 2: a debate, if you will, because there was a special

1885
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 2: election in twenty twelve when Jeff Davis left office. He

1886
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 2: resided early, so there was a election to fill out

1887
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 2: or to finish out his term and then start the

1888
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 2: new term. So there were I think two Democrats and

1889
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 2: if my memory serves me correct, about five Republicans that

1890
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 2: were going for this. We held the debate. It was

1891
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 2: the largest debate in attendance, and Thomas Massey was introduced.

1892
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 2: Based on what he had to say, a lot of

1893
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 2: us started supporting him. I supported him in twenty twelve.

1894
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 2: I went out in twenty fourteen sixteen. As a matter

1895
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 2: of fact, I was the MC for his election night

1896
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: coverage of the night that Trump got elected. Now I

1897
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 2: have posted on Facebook a friend of mine who would

1898
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,640
Speaker 2: these if you see him out in the county or

1899
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 2: at least in Campbell County anyway. They're a four and

1900
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 2: four foot by eight foot sheet of well chloroplast that

1901
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 2: you hang or that you put on posts and go

1902
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 2: around the county and hang up. There are these fence

1903
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 2: posts that you have to pound in the ground tie

1904
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 2: it to that. Over the year, in any one of

1905
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,720
Speaker 2: the campaigns, he and I were responsible for putting up

1906
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 2: every Massy sign, every four x eight sign in Campbell

1907
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: County as well as some in Kenton County and Boone County.

1908
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 2: We put up almost more than fifty signs every campaign.

1909
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 2: As I said, I hosted his I was the MC

1910
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 2: for his twenty sixteen election. I coverage and then again

1911
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, and so I have been. I had

1912
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 2: been and have been a big supporter of Thomas Massey

1913
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,799
Speaker 2: for as long as he's been in Congress. But something

1914
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 2: I don't know has switched with him. I started having

1915
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 2: problems with him, as I described in the one of

1916
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 2: the previous segments back in twenty twenty, the Wednesday before

1917
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 2: the January sixth confirmation of the electoral votes, I had

1918
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 2: him on this program. As a matter of fact, I

1919
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 2: am the one that introduced Thomas Massey to the fifty

1920
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 2: five KRC audience. I had him on this program the

1921
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:14,480
Speaker 2: first time. I also had ran Paul on this program

1922
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 2: or on this morning show the first time so introduced

1923
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 2: him both of them to this audience, as well as

1924
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 2: Matt Bevan, the eventual governor. So I had Thomas Massey

1925
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 2: and introduced him, and so I've been a big supporter

1926
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 2: of his. But I had him on that Wednesday before

1927
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 2: the January sixth confirmation and I asked him, I said,

1928
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 2: you've been out there, you've been saying that you're not

1929
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 2: sure which way you're going to go as far as

1930
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 2: this concern. Where are you leaning? And he says, well,

1931
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm kind of leaning towards confirmation. And I said, why

1932
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 2: is that? Because basically what you'll be doing is disenfranchising

1933
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:54,719
Speaker 2: all the voters of Kentucky that voted and had supported

1934
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. And he said, well, I don't agree with

1935
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 2: that because the electors are still going to be counted.

1936
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 2: And I said, but they're going to be disenfranchised and

1937
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:11,599
Speaker 2: overtaken because Pennsylvania had an illegal election in twenty twenty.

1938
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 2: The constitution and Thomas Massey claims to be this constitutionalist,

1939
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 2: he stands up for the Constitution and so on, but

1940
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 2: the election in Pennsylvania was an invalid election in twenty twenty.

1941
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,679
Speaker 2: The election is supposed to be controlled and the rules

1942
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 2: supposed to be established by the state legislature. Well, during COVID,

1943
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 2: they were out a judge, a group of judges decided

1944
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 2: how that election was going to be conducted. It was illegal.

1945
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 2: Those votes should have at least been challenged, and instead

1946
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 2: of challenging those Thomas Massey, well, when I talked to

1947
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 2: him on that Wednesday, we talked about back and forth

1948
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 2: and we went back and I'll finish this up coming up,

1949
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 2: but kind of set in the stage for what I'm

1950
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 2: talking about Thomas Massey here. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine,

1951
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:00,600
Speaker 2: fifty one, eight hundred eighty two three A two, five,

1952
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 2: five pound, five fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin

1953
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 2: Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KR see the

1954
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 2: talk station A twenty three in the morning. Kevin Gordon

1955
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 2: in for Brian Thomas fifty five KR see the talk station.

1956
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 2: Kind of setting the stage here because some of the

1957
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 2: things I was we were talking in the previous segment

1958
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 2: or last hour, I guess about Thomas Massey and where

1959
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 2: I stand on that and been having some issues. Now

1960
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 2: I set the stage for how I participated in his campaign,

1961
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 2: how number of signs that he that a friend of mine,

1962
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 2: and I hung for him and put out there because

1963
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 2: each one of these signs takes about, oh maybe about

1964
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 2: eight ten minutes to do, and then you drive to

1965
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 2: another location, bring them out, pound the fence posted into

1966
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 2: the ground, wire them up, and then go on from there.

1967
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: I posted face, I put post pictures on Facebook when

1968
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 2: we did these the different locations, and talked about it.

1969
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 2: I just for a joke, I posted a couple of

1970
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 2: times the gloves that I wore out that had the

1971
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 2: holes in them, A pair of shoes that going up

1972
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 2: and down the sides of these hills in Kentucky and

1973
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 2: trying to get the best location on top of the

1974
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 2: hill or whatever, blew out a couple of pairs of

1975
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 2: shoes along the way. And so you know, I did

1976
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 2: have some blood, sweat and tears into his campaign. But

1977
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 2: as I said January sixth, coming up to that vote

1978
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, the fact that I had him on

1979
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 2: this program or on the program at the time, and

1980
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 2: we talked about where he stood, and he was talking

1981
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 2: about leaning towards confirming that vote, and I said, you know,

1982
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 2: from a constitutional standpoint, they are basically disenfranchising if Pennsylvania

1983
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 2: voters or those electors are confirmed through an illegal election,

1984
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 2: then that will basically disenfranchise the people of Kentucky. At

1985
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 2: the end of our conversation, going through the entire interview,

1986
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 2: he said, you've given me a lot to think about.

1987
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 2: That was on a Wednesday, So something happened between Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

1988
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 2: and then Sunday night. He comes out with this letter

1989
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 2: where he says he's going to vote to confirm these electors.

1990
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 2: And the people that signed that letter with him, somebody

1991
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 2: had just been sworn into Congress that day, and there

1992
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 2: were four other people on that list that had only

1993
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:26,879
Speaker 2: been in Congress for maybe one term, maybe two terms tops.

1994
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 2: He was a senior ranking person. If he felt so

1995
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 2: strongly about it, if he wanted to stick it to Trump,

1996
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 2: he could have voted present on that instead of making

1997
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 2: a big fuss about I'm going to vote and I'm

1998
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 2: going to confirm these electors. So, in my opinion, when

1999
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:44,040
Speaker 2: he says he's standing up for the constitution, in my opinion,

2000
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 2: he voided that back in twenty twenty, and then since

2001
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:50,879
Speaker 2: then there have been several votes where he has basically

2002
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 2: voted standing up, as he says, for the constitution, freedom

2003
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 2: of speech or whatever, voting with the squad, one of

2004
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 2: only seventeen members to vot with the squad on this

2005
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 2: BDS movement to where anti Israel, and you can make

2006
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 2: the argument that a lot of his votes recently or

2007
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 2: over the last few years have been anti Semitic. And

2008
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 2: then probably the icing on the cake for me has

2009
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 2: come with his making these headlines having to do with

2010
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 2: the Epstein files. Now I'm not believe me. I am

2011
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 2: not defending the not releasing the Epstein files. I mean

2012
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 2: it was talked about on the campaign trail. I think

2013
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 2: they should have been released. I think it should have

2014
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 2: been done in a better fashion. But he treated it

2015
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:43,440
Speaker 2: as though that Trump was hiding something about his past

2016
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 2: or was protecting certain people. I don't know, but you

2017
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 2: figure that these Epstein files were in the possession of

2018
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 2: the Democrats for four years during the Biden administration. If

2019
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:59,160
Speaker 2: there was any and they threw the book, they threw

2020
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 2: everything they could at Trump to try to destroy him.

2021
01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 2: If there was a scintilla of any information in that

2022
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:09,480
Speaker 2: that could have been adversely pointed towards Trump, they would

2023
01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 2: have released it. But for Thomas Massey to make the

2024
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 2: comment about what's he hiding. Oh well, you know he's

2025
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 2: now granted. The victims need to have some compensation. The

2026
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 2: victims need to be heard and that and whoever falls

2027
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 2: by the wayside as a result of these Epstein files

2028
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 2: and who's named in that, Yes, they need to face

2029
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 2: the consequences. But to blame Trump for this when you

2030
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 2: had four previous years of no mention whatsoever and no push.

2031
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 2: All of a sudden the Democrats are pushing for the

2032
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 2: release of the Epstein file, and Thomas Massey joins with them. Sorry, Thomas,

2033
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 2: you're on the wrong side of history on this. My friend,

2034
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 2: well my former I don't know if you're even a

2035
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 2: friend anymore. But anyway, that's my two cents worth. And

2036
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,760
Speaker 2: as I said, you will never walk away from a

2037
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 2: conversation with me and say, God gosh, I don't know

2038
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 2: where Kevin stands on that particular issue. Phone numbers seven five, one, three,

2039
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 2: seven four nine, fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred eight

2040
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 2: two three talk one eight hundred eight two three eight two,

2041
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 2: five five pound, five point fifty AT and T wireless phone.

2042
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five krc DE

2043
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 2: talk station eight thirty actually coming up on A thirty

2044
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:33,919
Speaker 2: four in the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas

2045
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:37,680
Speaker 2: fifty five krs the talk station. Yes time has come

2046
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 2: today for local headlines and covering some local headlines for

2047
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 2: you this morning. Since Any plans to move its daytime

2048
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 2: winter shelter, raising concerns for some emergency shelter was previous

2049
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 2: at the the over the Rhine Recreation Center. However, the

2050
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 2: setting the city has said that that building is still

2051
02:00:57,240 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 2: under is now currently under renovation. They has partnered with

2052
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 2: the Saint Francis Sarraf Ministries and announced that the Extreme

2053
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 2: Weather Center will be located at a Saint Anthony Center

2054
02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 2: on Republic Street. Activation of the shelter will be decided

2055
02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 2: by city Manager Cheryl Long when the sustained daily temperatures

2056
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 2: are forecast to be below fifteen degrees fahrenheit. So that's

2057
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:23,520
Speaker 2: very important for people to know where this shelter will

2058
02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 2: be located, and the fact that it has been moved

2059
02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 2: for so people that are depending upon that shelter know

2060
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 2: where they can go on the when those daytime temperatures

2061
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 2: plummet around fifteen degrees. So anyway, phone numbers five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

2062
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 2: fifty five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three Talk

2063
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 2: one eight hundred eight two three eight two, five five pound,

2064
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 2: five point fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon

2065
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 2: in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR see the Talk

2066
02:01:50,240 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 2: State eight thirty nine in the morning. Kevin Gordon in

2067
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 2: for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC. The talk station's phone

2068
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:10,080
Speaker 2: numbers five one, three, seven, four nine fifty, five hundred one,

2069
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty two three talk one, eight hundred eight

2070
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 2: two three eight two, five five pound, five point fifty

2071
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 2: AT and T wireless phone. We may be getting an

2072
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 2: early Christmas present, according to the News. Scott Bessen, Treasury Secretary,

2073
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 2: said on Tuesday he expects Donald Trump to make a

2074
02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 2: decision on the new Federal Reserve chair by the holidays season,

2075
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,560
Speaker 2: which would be good news. Honestly, I think it would

2076
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,880
Speaker 2: be good news for the markets. I think it would

2077
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 2: be good news for the optimism of people we have

2078
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 2: been seeing over the last several up and down roller

2079
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:50,440
Speaker 2: coaster in terms of consumer sentiment, and honest to God,

2080
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 2: I think the consumer sentiment is is uh well not

2081
02:02:54,600 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 2: honest in my opinion, is being being push by the

2082
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 2: spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media. I can't tell

2083
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:06,920
Speaker 2: you the number of times over the last several months

2084
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:10,440
Speaker 2: that I've picked up a story regarding the economy and

2085
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 2: seen the headline and then go to read the story

2086
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 2: and find out that, wait a minute, where did they

2087
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 2: come up with that headline? It has nothing to do

2088
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 2: with what they report. You know, the headline doesn't match

2089
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 2: the story. And if you know, then you get to

2090
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 2: the bottom of the and sometimes it's the last paragraph

2091
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 2: that completely negates the entire story. And one of the

2092
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:34,040
Speaker 2: things that I've been saying for several months now is

2093
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:36,960
Speaker 2: that when Donald Trump started talking about wanting to fire

2094
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:39,680
Speaker 2: Jerome Powell and then got the push back from the

2095
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 2: press and all this sort of stuff, somebody had floated

2096
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 2: the idea. I thought it was a great idea. I

2097
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 2: don't know if it was Scott Bessen or somebody, but

2098
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 2: this was probably I would say back in maybe as

2099
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:58,839
Speaker 2: early as March, that what Trump should do because Jerome

2100
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:02,880
Speaker 2: Powell's is up in May of next year, and so

2101
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 2: what would be interesting is for him to choose who

2102
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 2: his successor would be, have him confirmed, and then that

2103
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 2: person will be in place. So what you'd basically have

2104
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 2: is kind of a duel, not necessarily an actual FED.

2105
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 2: You'll have the FED Chairman of lyon, Jerry Powell, as

2106
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 2: I refer to him, but you would have somebody in

2107
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:30,680
Speaker 2: the wings who could be in a position of talking

2108
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 2: about what the FED is doing, what they would do

2109
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:36,640
Speaker 2: if they were in that position, and basically be a

2110
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:39,720
Speaker 2: good critic of what's going or a supporter of what

2111
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve is doing. I think the Federal Reserve

2112
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:46,080
Speaker 2: is completely wrong as far as what they're doing as

2113
02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 2: far as interest rates are concerned. And I go back

2114
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 2: to the fact that you know, all last year, going

2115
02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:55,120
Speaker 2: into twenty twenty four, all during the campaign, all we

2116
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 2: heard from Jerome Powell is we gotta tame inflation. We

2117
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 2: gotta get inflation down. Inflation needs to be down around

2118
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 2: two percent. And then all of a sudden in August,

2119
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 2: even though the job's report was reported in January where

2120
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:15,000
Speaker 2: it said that the BLS, the Bureau of Labor Statistics,

2121
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 2: had overestimated the number of jobs created in the previous

2122
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 2: year by something in the neighborhood. I think the number

2123
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:25,920
Speaker 2: was eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs or something along

2124
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:30,320
Speaker 2: those lines, and that number was originally reported in January,

2125
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 2: but the final number and all that sort of stuff,

2126
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:35,440
Speaker 2: and the final report didn't come out till August. And

2127
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 2: in August that report came out, it seemed like everybody

2128
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:41,480
Speaker 2: was all of a sudden surprised that this was done.

2129
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 2: And that so the previous year that every time they said, well,

2130
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:48,360
Speaker 2: X number of jobs were created, X number of jobs

2131
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:53,200
Speaker 2: were created. Look, we're setting records as far as new

2132
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 2: jobs created, when in fact they were off by somewhere

2133
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 2: between three quarters and a well around eight hundred thousand

2134
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:05,920
Speaker 2: jobs that they had over reported. So that was a

2135
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:10,320
Speaker 2: black guy. And then Jerome Powison, well, the job market

2136
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 2: must be a weakening and our dual mandate was to

2137
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 2: reduce inflation and to make sure that the job market

2138
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 2: is strong. Well, they cut interest rates six weeks in

2139
02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 2: the middle of September of a month and a half

2140
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:29,400
Speaker 2: before the election half a percentage point in my opinion,

2141
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Speaker 2: a political move to try to get Kamala Harris elected.

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Speaker 2: And he claims that they're independent, they're not doing any

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Speaker 2: of this sort of stuff. And then the following week,

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Speaker 2: right after that interest rate cut came about, all of

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02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 2: a sudden, they were talking about well, the job market

2146
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 2: is actually relatively strong and it is showing a sustained

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Speaker 2: growth all this sort of stuff, So what was the

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Speaker 2: point of lowering the interest rate? And from that point on,

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Speaker 2: they've been talking about, oh, we've got a good inflation

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Speaker 2: rate down, inflation rate down. Yet when you look at

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02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:01,560
Speaker 2: some of these inflation numbers are right around what they've

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02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 2: been talking about historically high historically in the range of

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Speaker 2: between two and a half percentage points to three percent.

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Speaker 2: And for them to insist that, well, we're not going

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02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 2: to do anything with interest rates until it gets down

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02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:18,680
Speaker 2: below gets around two percent, is ludicrous because it hasn't

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02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 2: been there and you can and you can see this

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02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:25,440
Speaker 2: because if you look at in October, when the Federal

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Speaker 2: Reserve or when the government makes their determination in terms

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Speaker 2: of what the cola, that cost of living allowance is

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Speaker 2: going to be on Social Security, those adjustments when they

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02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 2: make that determination, it's based on the inflation rate around

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Speaker 2: that period of time in October, and that's what they

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02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 2: determine the inflation rate. When they came up with the

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Speaker 2: inflation rate this time around at two point I think

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Speaker 2: it was what two point eight percent, the social Security

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Speaker 2: checks are going up next year, Well, it was two

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Speaker 2: point eight percent, and the comment at the time was

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Speaker 2: interest rates or the inflation rate has been around and

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Speaker 2: KOLA has been anywhere from around two point five to

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Speaker 2: two point eight percent over the last several years. So

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Speaker 2: that tells me that the inflation has been around two

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Speaker 2: point seven two point five thereabouts. The last time it

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Speaker 2: was down around two percent one point four somewhere in

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Speaker 2: that range was during the last Trump administration. Immediately when

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Speaker 2: the bidens took off, when Biden took office, that inflation

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Speaker 2: rate went up. Do you remember that. Back in June

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two, inflation hit nine point one percent.

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Speaker 2: And throughout the entire Biden administration, the inflation rate was

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Speaker 2: I think, on average around for the entire four years

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02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 2: was right around four and a half percent, between four

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Speaker 2: and a half percent and five. During the Trump administration,

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Speaker 2: there was only one quarter I believe that the inflation

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Speaker 2: rate went above two percent. So in terms of where

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Speaker 2: the inflation rate is and where it's heading and what's

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Speaker 2: going on, if you look at and I'm going to

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02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:57,440
Speaker 2: set the stage here because when we get back, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to tell you where some of this inflation is

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02:08:59,200 --> 02:09:01,840
Speaker 2: coming from, and it ain't from tariffs, and it isn't

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Speaker 2: from some of the stuff that the spoon fed regurgitators

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Speaker 2: in the mainstream media would love you to believe. I'm

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Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs, The

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Speaker 2: Talk Station, eight fifty in the morning, Kevin Gordon in

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Speaker 2: for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs, the Talk Station. Let's

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Speaker 2: go to the phones and talk to Ron. Ron fifty

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Speaker 2: five krs. Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 13: Thank you so much for great Thank you so much

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Speaker 13: for filling in for Brian. I enjoy you guys very much,

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Speaker 13: very both.

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Speaker 7: My pleasure with it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, with the topic on inflation, there's something I wanted

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Speaker 13: to bring up that really frustrates me no ending and

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02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 13: it's the unrealistic expectation the regurgitate media creates. You know,

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02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 13: what would happen if inflation went to zero? What would

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02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 13: happen to prices? And I think the regurgitate media makes

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02:09:57,600 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 13: people think, oh, prices are going to come down. Well,

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Speaker 13: what does it mean when inflation is zero?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's no growth, right, and it.

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Speaker 13: Means that there's no increase in prices. Doesn't mean they're

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Speaker 13: necessarily going to go down. Now, some will go down,

2211
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:14,920
Speaker 13: some might still go up, right, But the expectation that

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02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 13: the media is creating for everybody is that, well, if

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02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 13: we were succeeding in prices would go down, but that

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Speaker 13: would be deflation.

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Speaker 2: Well, there are certain areas ron where inflation or those

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02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 2: prices would come down. When you look at stuff like

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02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:31,040
Speaker 2: certain commodities like eggs, you know you had that during

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02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 2: the bird flu. Then you have you know, drought situations

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02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:38,400
Speaker 2: where grain goes up. Coffee prices go up because of

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02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 2: down in the shell. We don't produce coffee. I think

2221
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:46,480
Speaker 2: what one percent of our coffee comes from either what

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02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 2: was it Hawaii and Puerto Rico. The rest is imported,

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Speaker 2: and so we're relying on that. So those areas will

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Speaker 2: go down, will go down and fluctuate. But in terms

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02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:58,320
Speaker 2: of you know a lot of the everyday type of things,

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Speaker 2: you know, clothing for instance, unless there is something that

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Speaker 2: drastically happens in terms of the manufacturing process those clothing,

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02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:08,920
Speaker 2: that clothing is not going to go down. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: something along.

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Speaker 13: Those lines, and you know. So the main message is

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Speaker 13: that the Democrats have wrecked everything by having such high

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Speaker 13: inflation that made everything go up, and even if we

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Speaker 13: get inflation to zero, doesn't mean that everything's going to

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Speaker 13: go down, right, Like you said, some things can for

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Speaker 13: certain reasons, but a lot of things may not. And

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02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:29,520
Speaker 13: it's just that never gets talked about, at least not

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Speaker 13: that I can hear. No, and so much for the

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Speaker 13: opportunity to talk.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Ron, thank you so much. I want

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Speaker 2: to touch on also the fact that you know, when

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Speaker 2: you're looking at inflation, it's not you know, each inflation

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02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:44,480
Speaker 2: month is not a one off. So when you go

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Speaker 2: back to June of twenty twenty two, when inflation went

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Speaker 2: up nine point one percent, the inflation doesn't drop back

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02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:58,840
Speaker 2: down to zero going into the next month. The inflation

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02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:02,800
Speaker 2: is on top of that nine point one percent. So

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Speaker 2: it's the well, what people talk about in terms of

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Speaker 2: compound interest. If you're talking about a product that costs

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Speaker 2: a dollar today and then cost a dollar three tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: and then inflation goes up another three percent, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: that that number is not a dollar three, it's a

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Speaker 2: dollar six plus, and so that it's building on top

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Speaker 2: of that. I saw a report the other day, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they put this out, but they

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Speaker 2: had a report that they took a market basket of

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Speaker 2: goods from nineteen eighty one and they said, well, here's

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Speaker 2: what those prices were back in nineteen eighty one. They

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Speaker 2: went through turkey, the dressing, and all canned beans and

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Speaker 2: so on, and they came up with a market basket

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Speaker 2: of you know, the turkey costs like seven dollars or

2261
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Speaker 2: something like that at and the total was like fourteen

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Speaker 2: dollars for a Thanksgiving meal. Those same prices in twenty

2263
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Speaker 2: twenty five, when they added them up, was forty six dollars.

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Speaker 2: And that's a two hundred and thirty eight percent increase.

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02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 2: But when you look at where our taxes are in

2266
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Speaker 2: terms of the average amount of taxes per household, we're

2267
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Speaker 2: up like three hundred percent. The salary of congressmen and

2268
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:33,200
Speaker 2: senators are up two hundred and twenty five percent. So

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Speaker 2: when you look at food prices and inflation being up

2270
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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty percent from back in nineteen eighty one,

2271
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Speaker 2: well everything else has gone up as well. And when

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Speaker 2: you look at what is going on as far as

2273
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Speaker 2: our inflation, let's not forget the contracts that were signed

2274
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:54,440
Speaker 2: by the railroad workers back of a year or so ago,

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02:13:54,880 --> 02:14:00,640
Speaker 2: their wage increases, ups wage increases. The UPS drivers out

2276
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:02,960
Speaker 2: there are making over one hundred and seventy thousand dollars

2277
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:07,520
Speaker 2: a year when the UAW their contract came up for

2278
02:14:07,600 --> 02:14:11,440
Speaker 2: negotiation and they got a huge almost ten percent increase

2279
02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:15,760
Speaker 2: every year. That goes into the cost of manufacturing different products,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to boost inflation. So if and I'm

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Speaker 2: not begrudging people getting what they're paid or what they're due,

2282
02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:25,080
Speaker 2: but the fact is, let's not discount the fact that

2283
02:14:25,080 --> 02:14:28,200
Speaker 2: that's going to add to inflation, and let's be honest

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02:14:28,240 --> 02:14:31,200
Speaker 2: about that. So again, that's my two cents worth. Oh

2285
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I can't say two cents worth anymore

2286
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:36,240
Speaker 2: because they've done away with a penny, which is a

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Speaker 2: very stupid idea in in my opinion. Well, folks, it's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of fun. Stay tuned for Glenn Beck

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Speaker 2: coming up top of the R. I'm Kevin Gordon in

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Speaker 2: for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC. They Talk station