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Speaker 1: This is Mark Madden. Follow me on Twitter at Mark Madden. Next,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to Tom Off. From Tom, I'm right right,

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Speaker 1: and so is Cower. That's how you win the game

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Speaker 1: play action, use the tight ends and run a lot

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Speaker 1: until you can't.

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Speaker 2: Without question, you and Cower are right. It's so glaringly obvious.

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Speaker 2: They should have been using the tight ends more so

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Speaker 2: throughout the entire season, not just when it was desperate time,

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Speaker 2: and not just beats suspended. No, I'm not talking about him,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the real tight ends, the Johnny Smith,

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Speaker 2: Pat Friarmouth.

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Speaker 1: They should have been. You've got two real tight ends.

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Speaker 1: You got a fat kid, and you've got a mascot. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and the guy. The guys that who've been ignored the

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Speaker 1: most are the real tight ends.

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely what the game plan should be. I'll throw

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Speaker 2: another thing in there. I would put Gainwell as a

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Speaker 2: wide receiver a lot, put him in the slot, even

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Speaker 2: out wide. If I had to sometimes just basically treat

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Speaker 2: him like a wide receiver, I'd put.

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Speaker 3: Him in more patterns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he chipped a lot against Garrett, but Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore ain't got Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'd put him on the slot. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it split him.

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Speaker 2: Wide too far slot though, it just him involved in

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Speaker 2: the passing game on Then.

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Speaker 1: Again, who would I rather have split wide him? Were

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Speaker 1: MBS him or Scottie Miller. Those two guys are bums,

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Speaker 1: and Rogers trying to anoint them as the chosen receivers.

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Speaker 1: What was his phrase to cast offs? Yes, he's trying

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Speaker 1: to get the cast offs over. That is a great

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Speaker 1: failing by him and by Tomlin and Oppenheimer by letting

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Speaker 1: him do that, and and to stick with that, Tom

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Speaker 1: I love the backs, I've said so all year, Warren

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Speaker 1: and Gainwell. Warren has proven himself to be at least

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Speaker 1: a semblance of a number one back.

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Speaker 3: Gainwell's having a career year in the O line too.

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Speaker 1: That's the best parts of the offense, the running backs

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Speaker 1: in the O lines. But Rogers just gotta throw them

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Speaker 1: throwing twice as much as they ran the ball nearly

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Speaker 1: anyway against Cleveland when the running game was working five

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Speaker 1: point five yards per carry and they never trailed by

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Speaker 1: more than a score after the middle of the second quarter.

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Speaker 3: That's just a crime.

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Speaker 2: The two running backs are the best features of their offense.

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Speaker 2: That's that's even when DK was there. I know DK

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Speaker 2: took a lot of attention away from other receivers in

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Speaker 2: the passing game, and they were able to make a

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Speaker 2: play here or there. And DK made a couple of plays.

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Speaker 2: But Gainwell and Warren have been your most consistent weapons

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Speaker 2: on offense. I really wonder why. It's just like they're

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Speaker 2: allergic to putting them on the field at the same time,

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Speaker 2: like it has to be one or the other. And

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Speaker 2: in this game, I would put it both out there

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Speaker 2: with the game Well in the slot idea and have

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Speaker 2: Warren lined up in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: I'd considered it. It's not a two running back at

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Speaker 1: the same time league no more.

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Speaker 2: But then again, the Steelers times mark, the Steelers are prehistoric.

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Speaker 1: Why not go to a good kind a prehistoric. But

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Speaker 1: I gotta get gained Well more involved. He went from

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Speaker 1: the man at Detroit to pass protection at Cleveland and

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Speaker 1: Tom you can run on Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: It ain't gonna be easy.

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Speaker 1: They're a middle of the pack run well, it says

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Speaker 1: here eleventh eleventh best against a run. But that's not

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Speaker 1: you know, overwhelming world, kwand Smith can blow you up,

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Speaker 1: but you gotta go to your strength as opposed to

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Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is effing things up by

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Speaker 1: just being stubborn and doing what he wants to do,

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Speaker 1: and nobody, like you heard the mad dog SoundBite Chris Russo,

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Speaker 1: we got that later.

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to blame him, nobody for anything.

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Speaker 2: Sixty percent a share of running the football is appropriated

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Speaker 2: in this game. There's just no chance that a team

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Speaker 2: quarterback by Aaron Rodgers would do.

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Speaker 3: That until the score dictates otherwise.

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Speaker 2: Sure, if you get behind, you have to pass, but

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Speaker 2: if you're in control of the game, you should lean

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Speaker 3: But he won't. He doesn't like to do that. He

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Speaker 3: dumps out of it all the time.

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Speaker 1: Rogers is making such a case for not wanting to

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Speaker 1: bring him back even if he wants to come back,

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Speaker 1: which makes me absolutely certain they will bring him back.

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Speaker 1: What's your hunch on Roman Wilson? Does he suck? Do

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Speaker 1: they hate him? Is it personal? All of the above.

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Speaker 1: Because he was a third round pick only last year,

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Speaker 1: it feels.

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Speaker 2: Like it's really early to just declare that he sucks.

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Speaker 2: And I haven't seen him play that much, but.

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Speaker 1: It's really early to never play him too or never

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Speaker 1: target him in the case of the loss to Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you can truly evaluate him.

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Speaker 2: And I know that the team has decided that, for

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, he's just not any good. But I really

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Speaker 2: don't understand how you can reach that conclusion without actually

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Speaker 2: seeing a strong sample size of him playing in your office,

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Speaker 2: trusting him to play your office.

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Speaker 1: There's no trust there. You know what part of it is.

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Speaker 1: You're right, that's a good point, Tom, There is no

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Speaker 1: trust with Roman Wilson. And part of it is they

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Speaker 1: don't know how to develop anybody. They got no idea.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Carmon, he got he got Steelers Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year today. But he's just plug and play. You

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Speaker 1: didn't have to quote unquote develop him. He's just a

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Speaker 1: big guy, stick in the middle of the line. But

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Speaker 1: and plus it's an old man's team. It just it

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Speaker 1: just they trust old guys. It's it's easy to picture

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Speaker 1: the old guys all huddled, you know, in a corner

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Speaker 1: of the cafeteria like high school, talking about how the

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Speaker 1: young guys suck and this is up to us, guys.

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Speaker 2: It's really clicky in that cafeteria. There's like a rifts

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Speaker 2: between the team, the old and the young. Of course

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Speaker 1: That's reading too much into it, but I can imagine it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's like when I said TJ. Walk probably

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Speaker 1: gave the O line of pep talk before or Cleveland, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: protect my record. I don't think it happened, but I

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Speaker 1: can imagine it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I think that's especially the case when it comes to

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Speaker 2: Rogers and how he treats these receivers. Clearly he doesn't

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Speaker 2: care for Austin or Roman Wilson, especially.

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Speaker 1: Although although he pumps their tires when he talks to Day,

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Speaker 1: you know why, because he's a con man exactly.

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Speaker 2: He's drifting to the public. It's just what el Ron

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Speaker 2: Hubbard would do and did so. Rogers exemplifies that kind

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Speaker 2: of clicking nature where it's like these young guys don't

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Speaker 2: know what they're doing. They still have a lot of

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Speaker 2: things to learn in thisage. I'm gonna go to MVS

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Speaker 2: and feeling these guys have been around the block, but

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Speaker 2: not on the record to the media.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I have a great deal of faith in

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Speaker 1: Roman Wilson, same with Tomlin. Roman Wilson, look at the

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Speaker 1: opportunity he's getting with Dkaot, except he got nine apps,

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Speaker 1: no opportunity and no targets. I feel like only one

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Speaker 1: team could put the game away early tomin It's Baltimore

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Speaker 1: with the momentum of Henry and how they played at

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, the bully ball, like Rod Woodson said, we'll

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Speaker 1: hear from him later, and getting a reprieve after being

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Speaker 3: It's a ton of adrenaline. Jo. Everything screams that Baltimore

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Speaker 3: is going to win this game.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how the Steelers stopped Dereck Henry,

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Speaker 2: and I was looking back at it, Mark, the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have never really stopped Raven Derrick Henry. The Ravens themselves

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Speaker 2: have stopped Raven Derrick Henry against the Steelers by taking

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Speaker 3: And that's a Harball problem. But if he keeps on the.

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Speaker 2: Accelerator with Henry, he always gets his he averages over

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Speaker 2: usual Derrick Henry stuff. And I really find it hard

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Speaker 2: to believe that Harbaugh is going to make that egregious

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Speaker 2: you know, forgets Henry exists for a big stretch.

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Speaker 1: I don't find it that hard to believe because Harball

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Speaker 1: is a dope, he is. But god bit like they

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Speaker 1: found the formula last week, they're not going to forget

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Speaker 1: it in just seven days exactly.

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Speaker 2: And he heard so much noise in Baltimore after the

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Speaker 2: Patriots game where he didn't play Henry Assault that game

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Speaker 2: away and they ended up blowing the lead that he

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Speaker 2: knows what he has to do. It's got to be

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Speaker 2: another thirty plus carries for him.

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Speaker 1: This is the anniversary nineteen eighty eight. How many years

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Speaker 1: is that? Thirty seven years since Mario got five goals

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Speaker 1: five ways New Year's Eve nineteen eighty eight against the

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Speaker 1: Devil's I was there? Is that the greatest moment Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: like the immaculate reception is a moment, but it's the

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Speaker 1: greatest achievement for sure.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh foot and you're taking out like championship things like

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Speaker 2: mass at in the home. It's just just, oh wait, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but Mas didn't do it on New Year's Eve. Very

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Speaker 2: very fair. But you said Pittsburgh sports moment.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Mario.

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Speaker 2: If you go in like the regular season. It's one

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Speaker 2: thousand percent the best moment that ever happened in a

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Speaker 2: regular season game, and nothing I don't think even comes close.

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Speaker 2: As you said already, it's one of the it's the

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Speaker 2: best moment in the NHL's regular season history.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, Derek Harmon got named Rookie of the

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Speaker 1: Year today for the Steelers. I guess kind of by default.

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Speaker 1: Who else could have got it? Patrick Queen got miscongeniality

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Speaker 1: because he sucks up to the media. And tomorrow they're

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Speaker 1: gonna name the MVP MVP of a sinking ship. I

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Speaker 1: saw that movie Titanic a bunch of times. They never

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Speaker 1: named an MVP while the ship was going down one

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Speaker 1: oh five to ninety X. Listen to the exit ever

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Speaker 1: before Now for Rejoin music. What a great song, stay

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Speaker 1: with me long intro to, which makes it good for

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Speaker 1: this purpose. I'll be seeing Rod Stewart at Scotland versus

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Speaker 1: Morocco in Foxborough June nineteenth World Cup, crossing that off

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Speaker 1: my bucket list. I'll be supporting Scotland for the entirety

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Speaker 1: of the tournament because of Rod and because of Liverpool's

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Speaker 1: Andy Robertson, who serves as the Scottish captain.

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Speaker 3: Some bad news just crossing my vision.

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Speaker 1: The Penguins announced the passing of Lowell McDonald at eighty

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Speaker 1: four years old. Lowell was a winger in the seventies,

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Speaker 1: which is right in my wheelhouse as a kid growing up,

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Speaker 1: played as part of the fabled century line the three

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Speaker 1: hundred points scores with him still Apps and Jean Pronovo.

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Speaker 1: So very sad to hear of Lowell's passing. I have

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Speaker 1: his autograph about a million times. He's very great to

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Speaker 1: me as a kid, So that's very sad news. What

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Speaker 1: a crappy twenty twenty five we've had now with Lowell

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Speaker 1: and Mike Lang and Craig Wolfley and Dave Parker. Glad

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Speaker 1: to get this frickin year out the way. I still

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Speaker 1: can't believe the Steelers lost at Cleveland. Can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I watched the game back this morning to take some notes.

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Speaker 1: My only notes were WTF, exclamation point times ten three

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Speaker 1: days later. At the end, when they throw the three

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Speaker 1: passes in a row Rogers to mvs, I'm still expecting

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Speaker 1: him to catch one of them and they tie it

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Speaker 1: in regulation and win in overtime. That would have been

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Speaker 1: You know when that game was lost after two offensive

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Speaker 3: No no, no, that Baltimore takes a quick lead.

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Speaker 2: If you're opening defenses as soft as it was against

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Speaker 2: They they will score more and more. They'll start feeling it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to go that far. Tom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're my point being, they're much better than

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Speaker 2: In the playoff race, and they're taking advantage of it,

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Speaker 1: Said, Mantha, now up to fourteen goals, crazy brassers up

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Speaker 3: They keep it simple, they're big, they go to the

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Speaker 2: Do you think that that is the reason why they're

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they still need Gino back. The

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Speaker 2: Do we have one for McGroarty Mcgroart's probably I like

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Speaker 3: Uh you know, if this team, I still don't want

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Speaker 2: He's, like you said yesterday, The metrics tell you that

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Speaker 1: You don't you know what he needs he needs to

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Speaker 2: I'd call the pharmacist the team as a whole. If

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Speaker 2: But we always thought he if Rusty doesn't make it,

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Speaker 1: Now, here's the standings depend which are two points out

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Speaker 1: That's just insane. And they still have games in hand

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to see Stewart Skinner get a win after

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Speaker 1: And last night was the first time. How about this, Tom,

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you know, it is a little bit easier,

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Speaker 1: but that kind of cut me off guard Canada nonsense

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Speaker 1: But I have always said Tom that if you're a

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Speaker 1: And if those guys would feel really wronged about not

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Speaker 2: He's surprised by Dowdy getting the pick, kind of the

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Speaker 2: old timey pick, because Sid deserves to be there. He's

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Speaker 2: still a top six for that team. But Dowdy just

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Speaker 3: I would not have picked them.

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Speaker 1: They left off Sam Bennett also, who was great at

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Speaker 2: But Schaeffer should have slid in over Dowdy. They should

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Speaker 3: There. Did you see American made with Tom Cruise? No,

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Speaker 3: weekday mornings at six. Pretty cool. It is super cool

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Speaker 3: at Rob King here, ain't connected to your Steelers game

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Speaker 3: the football Guru.

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Speaker 1: He has some mind numbingly informative tweets about football, and

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Speaker 1: here's one from UH Today Joey Porter Junior, the Steelers

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Speaker 1: corner has gone fourteen and forty four consecutive snaps without

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Speaker 1: his guy scoring a touchdown. That is the longest active

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Speaker 1: streak among cornerbacks. It is twice as long as the

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Speaker 1: The completion percentage against him this year is fifty three

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Speaker 1: Porter very quietly the Steelers' best defensive player. I think

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Speaker 3: Very quietly, he might be.

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Speaker 2: Alex Heisman has been so good this year when he's healthy,

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Speaker 2: I think he is. But more importantly, he needed to

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Speaker 1: The Steelers drafted a quarterback and he got good on

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Speaker 3: I know they should rush for this chapter and verse.

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Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior, you know, right between what are the

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Speaker 1: books the Bible?

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Speaker 3: Like Jennison and John's, I have no idea, not.

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Speaker 1: The biggest Bible scholar, but except the Book of Revelations

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Speaker 1: because it relates to the impending destruction of our earth.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is gonna happen. Plus, as reflected

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Speaker 2: I like really how this secondary has taken shape, though

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Speaker 2: it was a real roundabout way, and they screwed up

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Speaker 2: some things.

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Speaker 3: Like him.

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Speaker 2: I like Ramsey and Elliott. Don't forget about Elliott coming

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Speaker 2: They just need one more they can. Dra was so

438
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Speaker 2: good for well then he you know, he showed why

439
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 2: he's not and he's starter and he got hurt. His

440
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 2: role got expanded. But my main like encouragement from the

441
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 2: secondary moving forward is because of Joey Porter junior borderline

442
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 2: becoming elite now.

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Speaker 1: Like you and I talked about during the break, he's

444
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Speaker 1: a bit grabby, yeah, but you got to live with that.

445
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 1: I think that's part of his style. That's why he

446
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Speaker 1: can man up on guys. And he's not got called

447
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Speaker 1: a ton this year? Has he?

448
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Speaker 2: No?

449
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Speaker 3: He has.

450
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Speaker 1: Last year he had what the three flags in one

451
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Speaker 1: game against Higgins, so people remember and.

452
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Speaker 2: Dwell on that. But other than that drew out his

453
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Speaker 2: three years. He's he's not been penalized over not not

454
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 2: too much. I feel like there was an initiative from

455
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 2: the coaching staff to kind of get that out of

456
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: his game a little bit when he got here and

457
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 2: I thought worse for him, Yeah, it made him think

458
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: too much about playing it like that play you drafted him.

459
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Speaker 2: Let him play.

460
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 3: He's too good. Just let him play.

461
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 2: And that's part of his game, is the grabbiness and

462
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 2: the physicality, you know, within that five yard buffer window

463
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 2: that he gets Like you'll get a DPI every now

464
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 2: and again, but don't rob what makes him so great

465
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Speaker 2: Because you're worried about the occasional penalty ranking they don't

466
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Speaker 2: do defensive MVP, do they. They just do MVP. Yeah,

467
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: just team MVP. Now, traditionally they don't give into a

468
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Speaker 2: white quarterback. That's why Ben almost never got it. Think

469
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Speaker 2: Rogers is gonna get it because the players vote. I

470
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Speaker 2: think Rogers is gonna get it. Yeah, I mean the

471
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Speaker 2: only other person I would think is like what Kenneth Gainwell, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I think Rogers's gonna get it because I'm not

473
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Speaker 1: sure that locker room loved Ben, but they're scared to

474
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Speaker 1: death of Rogers.

475
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Speaker 3: It is so weird.

476
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Speaker 1: Rodgers hasn't am I right like Rogers. Like what he

477
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Speaker 1: does a press conference, he looks just so mean, Yes

478
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Speaker 1: he does, like like he stares right through you and

479
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: like if you ask a stupid question, you can tell

480
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Speaker 1: he thinks it's a stupid question.

481
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Speaker 3: You bring it up.

482
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Speaker 2: The Ben thing, like it really is so dumb. They

483
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Speaker 2: never voted for Ben as Team MVP. It really is.

484
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Speaker 1: Tom if you know him. Thing for second? That ain't

485
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: black guys not voting for a white guy.

486
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Speaker 2: When they when they give it to Juju Smith Schuster,

487
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: Antonio Brown, Juji, you know what he got it? You

488
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 2: remember that's when Antonio Brown crashed out finally because Juju

489
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: won Team MVP.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it's great, It's perfect.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, h nov I'm not even saying it's a terrible thing.

492
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: It's just the way the locker room is. But but

493
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Speaker 1: Rogers is gonna win it this year. It's the same

494
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: thing with Tomlin that we don't criticize him at least,

495
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, most of the football media world doesn't because

496
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Speaker 1: he's the pre eminent black coach.

497
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Speaker 2: People are just scared to get that out there. I mean,

498
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: his career, like Tom his career is a joke.

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Speaker 1: After the first four years, it's a joke after the

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Speaker 1: first four years.

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Speaker 2: What is it the four in eighteen season? Four years

502
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: in eighteen seasons that he's won a playoff game. Yeah,

503
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: it's it's just I mean, he won with Tom Withers

504
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: team and Cowers culture and Cowers leaders, and nobody will

505
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 2: ever admit that.

506
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Speaker 1: Tom. You brought up up during the break too. We

507
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Speaker 1: shouldn't just air during the break. It's probably better than

508
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Speaker 1: what we're doing right now.

509
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Speaker 3: We can leave.

510
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: But we talked about this being Oh from your lips

511
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: to Gene Romano's ears, I said that the greatest moment

512
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh sports history was on this night in nineteen eighty eight,

513
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: Marios five goals, five ways.

514
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Speaker 3: I will admit that Maz's home run to win.

515
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Speaker 1: The nineteen sixty World Series gives it a run for

516
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Speaker 1: its money, because it's a a moment, a singular moment,

517
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: and it did win a World Series. But it's also

518
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: the anniversary of Roberto Clemene dying in a plane crash

519
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Speaker 1: on a mission of mercy on New Year's Eve nineteen

520
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: seventy two. And that was before you were born. But boy,

521
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I was just turned twelve years old. I cried and

522
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: cried and cried because Roberto Clemenne he was the hero

523
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: for every kid my age back then.

524
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Speaker 3: He was the entire city of Pittsburgh's hero.

525
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like again, And that was in nineteen

526
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: seventy two New Year's Eve. That that happened so way

527
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: before my time. But everybody knows about the Clemeny story

528
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: and what he was doing, the mission that he was on,

529
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: such a great person. The classic story about him telling

530
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: Tom Walker to not come on the plane and leaving

531
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Speaker 2: him behind Neil Walker's dad. It's just so weird how

532
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: the butterfly effect happened there. Well, he was going because

533
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: it was to was it to the Dominicans. The Dominican

534
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: was delivering aid and like, but like the usual suspects

535
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 2: like the military. So for they were stealing the supply.

536
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: So he went there to make sure it got where

537
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: it was intended because him being there, they're not gonna

538
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 2: steal from Roberto freaking clemeny. I mean, he's the man.

539
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: But three thousand hits on the nose still so remarkable.

540
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: With Roberto and Mark, he was unbelievable in that age

541
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Speaker 2: thirty seven season, Like who knows how long he keeps playing?

542
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Speaker 1: You know what nobody remembers now, He would have played

543
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: at least a couple more years. You know what nobody

544
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: remembers now. He was so underappreciated in Pittsburgh, Okay, when

545
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: he got a three thousand hit. He went into the

546
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Speaker 1: game at two nine nine nine, and the stadium was

547
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: like seventy percent empty at three rivers.

548
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Speaker 3: That's a sin.

549
00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: We know.

550
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: Part of it was the media treated him like crap.

551
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: Honestly, I think there was a racial component there because

552
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: you know how you know Charlie Feeney, who covered the

553
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: Pirates for the longest time for the Post Gazette, who

554
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: everybody loved, and I thought was just a piece of crap,

555
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: just just a bad guy, really rude, just just this

556
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: obnoxious baseball is everything type writer. And and he would

557
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: quote Colemente phonetically to embarrass him. He would say like

558
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: like he would you know, like my my bad arm

559
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: is good, but my good arm is bad. He'd make

560
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: him sound foolish. Whereas really Stargle, because he sucked up

561
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: to the media, got painted in a a favorable light

562
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: that he did not deserve.

563
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Speaker 2: That's such a shame, because Roberto Clemente is the Pittsburgh

564
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: Pirates and forever.

565
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: Will be the p He was a god among us.

566
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: He was nobility. There's no quote. And I don't say

567
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: that about many guys. I think most people put in

568
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: that light usually have something to hide.

569
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Speaker 3: But Roberto Clemene was just magnificent.

570
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: So it's the anniversary of that, you know, between him

571
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 2: and like Lemieux, like having larger than life, almost like

572
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: folklore figures.

573
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: When it comes to our sports athletes, it's unbelievable.

574
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: It's you know, it is amazing too, because like Willie

575
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: Stargell just treated people horribly and he's revered even Charlie

576
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: Fenu I just talked about, and I guarantee you there

577
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: are a bunch of guys who I work with at

578
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: the Post Cazette back then who are either totally agreeing

579
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: with me or saying, how dare he say that about

580
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: the Palin Everybody called him padly, but he.

581
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: Was rude to everybody. He treated everybody terrible.

582
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: It's amazing how some guys, some guys staked their reputation

583
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: through fear though. And and you know, the baseball writer

584
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: back then was the most important guy at the paper.

585
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: Rogers kind of does that now currently with the Steelers

586
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: staking that reputation through fear.

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Speaker 3: Just waiting for you to say it.

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Speaker 2: One O five to nine from the one oh five

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Speaker 1: Fisherman Tom.

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Speaker 3: What we got for today's trifecta?

595
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: It is New Year's Eve, so I've got a trifecta

596
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: of the cliche resolutions that people make that you never follow.

597
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: Through Number three, I bet I've done like a lot

598
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: of them to call through on them. Good for you.

599
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: Some people, I'm sure do this, but a lot the

600
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: most like commonly, I think accepted thing about a resolution

601
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: is that you're gonna break it.

602
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: Number three has learned something new.

603
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 2: I feel like people like to go into twenty twenty

604
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: six and be like, you know what, I'd like to

605
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: learn how to play the piano, or maybe I'd like

606
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: to pick up painting or something like that.

607
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: You never did that one and they never follow through

608
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Speaker 3: on it.

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00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm totally happy with myself as a person number two

610
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: in terms of knowledge, because I am, of course a

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Speaker 1: super genius Number two.

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00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a lot of popular time

613
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: of the year for people to try to quit smoking,

614
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: quit drinking, try to better themselves that way.

615
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: That's such a tough thing to kick though. I mean,

616
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Speaker 3: smoking and drinking is great.

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00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: And especially it really is, and especially when you've done

618
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Probably New Year's Eve and you

619
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: got to stop not only cold turkey the next day,

620
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: but mega cold turkey.

621
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Speaker 2: Don't you think that's the motivation too. It's like, ah,

622
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: I just had one of my worst venders. I gotta

623
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: stop this. Let me guess what number one is lose

624
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: weight kind of. It was gonna be get a gym

625
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: membership because I think I think some people who do

626
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: the lose weight thing actually do follow through on that one.

627
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: It's the people that actually go out and like apply

628
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: to a Planet Fitness, get a gym membership, and pay

629
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: like ten dollars a month to go there.

630
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: Then they just quit after a couple of months.

631
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Speaker 1: I lost forty pounds right before New Year's there's really

632
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: nothing left to live for.

633
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: You don't even have a resolution for that, you're losing weight. Anyway,

634
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: I do have a slight resolution.

635
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I want to get back on the treadmill more like

636
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: like this diet, my energies come back up.

637
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: Which I knew it would. You you don't have.

638
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Carbs, you know, you don't have sugar, so your energy's

639
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: down some You can artificially jacket up with caffeine as

640
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: I do. But I've been on the treadmill as much

641
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: as I was before and still lost the weight. So

642
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: starting tomorrow, gonna I'm gonna try and plus which two

643
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm falling behind on my what I call my trademill TV,

644
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: the stuff I like to watch while I'm on the treadmill.

645
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: That's why I like working out like at home, treadmill

646
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: at home, like a peloton bike at home if you

647
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: have it, Because watching TV is such a must for

648
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: me when I'm working out.

649
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: I just get so bored. When I'm running.

650
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: I can't do it, Like I can't just go outside

651
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: on a run and see nature. Forget that. I want

652
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: to watch like an episode of Seinfelder or something like that.

653
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: Well, I'm in the middle of the first year of

654
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: land Man, I still haven't started the new season of

655
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: Mayor of Kingston. I gotta watch the gay hockey series

656
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: though heated Rivalry Rivalry.

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Speaker 3: It's a hit. It has like nine point four out

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Speaker 3: of ten on IMDb.

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Speaker 1: It's everywhere like it's two hockey players, both drafted in

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Speaker 1: the first round, the conduct and affair throughout their NHL careers.

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Speaker 2: Well MHL like the the fake NHL. Yeah right right,

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Speaker 2: But it's getting great reviews. Everywhere I look at says

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Speaker 2: it's a fantastic show.

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Speaker 1: Great reviews. So I'll get back on the treadmill to

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Speaker 1: watch softcore.

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Speaker 3: Gay porn boy. Imagine if Zach Effron were in it,

667
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my, even just a cameo.

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Speaker 1: Even him in Baywatch was like terrific in that movie.

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Speaker 1: And he did a bunch of a bunch of uh

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Speaker 1: like shirtless and short scenes in the Sorority movie Ny Neighbors.

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Speaker 2: At the end, they're at American Eagle and he's the model,

672
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Speaker 2: and Seth Rogan pops the top off two and starts

673
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Speaker 2: modeling with it, and.

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Speaker 3: The neighbors too.

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Speaker 2: He strips to distract the Sorority so they can steal

676
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Speaker 2: their weed. You know, Seth Rogan stopped making movies, didn't he.

677
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Speaker 2: That whole crew just really kind of dried up.

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Speaker 3: I think he's just high. He was high back then, though,

679
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Speaker 3: I think he's even he's higher now.

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Speaker 1: Tom we gotta tuck Steelers Ravens as opposed to soft

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Speaker 1: core gay pornography. The Ravens blueprint for Sunday gotta be

682
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Speaker 1: that playoff win from last year, a twenty eight to

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Speaker 1: fourteen win. Baltimore rushed for two hundred and ninety nine yards,

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Speaker 1: Henry rush for a buck eighty six. It was twenty

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Speaker 1: one nil Baltimore and all over by halftime. Baltimore emasculated.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers battered him, played bully ball like they did

687
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Speaker 1: against Green Bay. You know, cut they cut the Steelers'

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Speaker 1: balls off, and then I think Henry picked him up

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Speaker 1: and ran for fourteen more yards. If I'm Baltimore, I

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Speaker 1: not only run the ball.

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Speaker 3: If TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt played, I run right. Yes, TJ. Watt, he ain't

693
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Speaker 2: been out there for a while. Turn him into roadkill

694
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Speaker 2: and early. Make it so when he does have to

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Speaker 2: rush the passer he's just used to getting run over

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Speaker 2: by Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 3: I think we talked about how the Steelers gonna run

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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 2: That this what Baltimore gonna do, not only run the ball,

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Speaker 2: but with the specific plan, which is right at What

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Speaker 2: do you think he's gonna play. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 2: play situationally. I think he's gonna play like third downs,

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Speaker 2: pass rush stuff.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd run him over on the sideline. I just

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Speaker 3: go right after b line to him. Yeah right, you.

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Speaker 2: Know it's obvious. I think the strategy for the Ravens

707
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Speaker 2: in this game. Yes, it's the same thing they did

708
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Speaker 2: in the wildcard game last year. It's the same thing

709
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Speaker 2: they did to the Green Bay Packers on Saturday Night.

710
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Speaker 2: Like that is who that team is. That should be

711
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Speaker 2: their identity. It's honestly, Harball's fault. That he let them

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Speaker 2: get away from it so much, especially this year with

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Speaker 2: Lamar being hurt all year and having to go Huntley

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Speaker 2: and then Lamar and then Huntley. Like this is a

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Speaker 2: year to lean on the running game in Henry. He

716
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Speaker 2: will not get away from it. In this game, they'll

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Speaker 2: go at what, they'll go at high Smith her Big

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Speaker 2: when he's in there. I don't think they feared this.

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Speaker 2: He's the going with this like I'd play him a lot.

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Speaker 2: I'd play high Smith and the Modern day Warrior as

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Speaker 2: my main two EDG dressers. Do you think Wat's a

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Speaker 2: lock to play, not a lock to play?

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Speaker 1: I think he's a lock to dress because he'd look,

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Speaker 1: you know it, look bad if he didn't bad optics.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Lamar's gonna play.

726
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Speaker 2: I think I saw he's supposed to practice today to

727
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Speaker 2: give that a shot.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that was official yet or not.

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Speaker 1: It is ridiculous that Baltimore's chances would be worse with

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Speaker 1: Lamar quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But if he's dinged up, I really think that's true.

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Speaker 2: That's the option I want if I'm the Steelers is

733
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Speaker 2: like a seventy seventy five percent Lamar Jackson. He can't

734
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Speaker 2: move as he usually does. I would take that over Huntley,

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Speaker 2: who could go for sixty sixty five yards.

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Speaker 1: If I were Baltimore, go out there and stab Watton

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Speaker 1: along again. Yeah, I mean, I'd say, you guys did it?

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Speaker 1: Why can't wait? H Do you remember that game last year?

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Speaker 1: What I'm talking about, the playoff win for Baltimore. How

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Speaker 1: they played seems very relevant.

741
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Speaker 2: I just remember them bullying the Steelers across the field,

742
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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage that he got blown back on.

743
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: I remember the Steelers made a huge air in personnel

744
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Speaker 2: by not dressing Preston Smith in that game, so they

745
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Speaker 2: went a little smaller on their edge rushers and they

746
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Speaker 2: just got flattened. They were in nickel defense a lot

747
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: in that game. To I remember Matt Williamson was pulling

748
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Speaker 2: his hair out over that. He was like, why are

749
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Speaker 2: we going so small against the Ravens. So yes, I

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Speaker 2: do remember that game very well, and I'm worried that

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Speaker 2: it is going to play out exactly that same way.

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Speaker 1: I love when Matt gets pissed because he tries so

753
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Speaker 1: hard to not get pissed and to be real analytical,

754
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Speaker 1: but when he gets upset, it's actually pretty funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not to be fair. Looking at the game.

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Speaker 1: Between the teams this year, Tom Baltimore rushed for two

757
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen yards in that win for the Steelers

758
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Speaker 1: at Baltimore. The Steelers still won, but that's because they

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Speaker 1: got all the calls, Yes, the correct calls. It should

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Speaker 1: be noted in because Lamar sucked. He did suck, but

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Speaker 1: he did rally them at the end. And again there

762
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Speaker 1: was that play in the end zone with likely where

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Speaker 1: it was hit or miss. Did he catch it? Did

764
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Speaker 1: he not catch it? I guess it was the right call.

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Speaker 1: But they almost won that football game. Despite Lamar sucking

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Speaker 1: as bad as he did. They couldn't stop Henry in

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Speaker 1: that game. And that's my main point that I've been

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Speaker 1: saying all week, is like they've never stopped Henry.

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Speaker 2: It's always the Ravens stopping Henry themselves. The Steelers have

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Speaker 2: not been successful since he's joined. The Ravens against him. Well,

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Speaker 2: here's what I keep saying, that Henry's fumble prone. He

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Speaker 2: could fumble the game away.

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Speaker 1: You know why that is he fumbled three times in

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Speaker 1: three games to start the season. But other than that

775
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Speaker 1: is an entire career, he's barely fumbled. Yeah, you know,

776
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Speaker 1: it's like everybody takes a micro cousin and blows up.

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Speaker 1: It's like earlier we talked about Joey Porter, who had

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Speaker 1: the one game last year with three DPIs. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: his handsiness has not cost him dearly.

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Speaker 2: And if there's one guy then I'm gonna forgive a

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Speaker 2: fumble and still run him. After that, it's Derrick Henry

782
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Speaker 2: because I'll take a fumble even if it loses possession.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna go for thirty five carries for two

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Speaker 2: hundred plus yards and three touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: This almost feels preordained.

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Speaker 1: You were talking about it weeks ago that they would

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Speaker 1: play for the division title in week eighteen. Now you

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Speaker 1: thought they'd both be eight and eight. Well, it turns

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Speaker 1: out they're both nine and seven. I thought back then

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Speaker 1: they'd be six and six. Remember when they met at

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Speaker 1: the first time, and I was right about that. I

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Speaker 1: thought then that they would end up being eight and

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Speaker 1: eight here. But yeah, I didn't think that.

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Speaker 2: Put it this way, I was not thinking my prediction

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Speaker 2: would come true a week ago. Today, when the Steels

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Speaker 2: are heading to Cleveland, what a terribly missed opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Well, Tomlin called an AFC Championship week, which is cornball

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Speaker 1: and and kind of cool at the same time. What's

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Speaker 1: your call, Tom, Who's gonna win?

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Speaker 2: I think Ravens are gonna win. Twenty three seventeen feels right.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna shot Friday though, right, we'll do predictions then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you reserve the right to change. That's true.

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Speaker 2: Right now for New Years, I'm feeling Ravens twenty three,

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Speaker 2: Steelers seventeen right now.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna drink tonight? I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 3: going to drink that much. I like eight years. I

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Speaker 3: love a drink. You know what I'll have.

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Speaker 1: There's this distillery I wish I remember the name. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be there this weekend when I go see

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Speaker 1: get the let out. A distillery right by the Palace Theater.

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Speaker 1: And they make this blueberry whiskey. Oh and you mix

812
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Speaker 1: it with lemonade. It's the best cocktail I've ever had.

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Speaker 3: Is really good.

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Speaker 1: I will be having one of those tonight, but probably

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Speaker 1: only one if you made me pick right now.

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Speaker 3: And I said this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers probably lose, but I only give

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Speaker 1: Baltimore a sixty forty edge.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it is overwhelming.

820
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Speaker 2: But I will say this, if Baltimore scores first, you

821
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Speaker 2: know they're gonna run, run, run till Derrick Henry takes

822
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Speaker 2: the playoffs away, Like they can't let Baltimore break down

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Speaker 2: quickly to a simple formula. Are you saying sixty forty

824
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Speaker 2: because do you think the Ravens can blow it themselves?

825
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: Like that's the main reason why you have the forty

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Speaker 2: percent on the Steelers, Like what have the Steelers done

827
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Speaker 2: that gives you that upidemic?

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Speaker 1: That must be what I think, because at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of this show, I said what the Steelers had to

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Speaker 1: do to win this game? You know, like Cower said,

831
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Speaker 1: with the play action the tight ends times and I

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Speaker 1: would run the ball at least sixty percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: And I think they have the intent to do none

834
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Speaker 3: of the above. They're not going to use the tight ends.

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Speaker 3: I know that for sure.

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Speaker 2: They might try to commit to the run game initially,

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Speaker 2: but they're not going to use their tight ends. They

838
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Speaker 2: just don't want to use fire Ruth or Smith for

839
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Speaker 2: whatever reason. I don't get it. They gave fire with

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Speaker 2: all that money. I bet Rogers before the game goes, Hey, Mooth,

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Speaker 2: be ready one O five nine,