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For more on all of that in 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: the news of the day, Let's welcome in the man 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: we call Tenel Terry Nelson, how are you? 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: My brother? 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: I am running like a chicken with his head cut off, So. 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: I appreciate your making to yes, sir. 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: My son's birthday tonight at seven Montgomery. 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: And oh that's a that's a good place to beat 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: tonight for a great celebration. Uh, give me take me 27 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: back to earlier in the day when you heard the news, 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: your reaction to the news on West. 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: I kind of figured that was that was the case, 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 3: and uh, it was just one of those things where 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: you know, you didn't want to prolong it because there's 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: several reasons. One, you don't want to the players are 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: gonna hit the portal hill pretty soon and they're already 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: making their mind, they're dealing with emotions, agents are all 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: in their ear. So you got to make sure that 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: the GM Corey is in the in the ears and 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: trying to talk to people that he wants to come back. 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: You know, making sure that the people that are committed 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 3: to come are still ready to go, knowing that they're 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: going to have a new coach. And then you know, 41 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: basically making sure that you can hit that portal and 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: be positioned for the portal. And it's just the donors 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: and the people that were investing into the program just realized, 44 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 3: you know, after five years. They gave it a good try, 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: you know, good college try, and they like Wes. We 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: all like Wes. I like him a lot, but it 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: was just time for a party of ways. 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: Terry. 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Why ultimately, why didn't it work? Why wasn't there more 50 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: to be a that was able to be accomplished. 51 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: I just think his. 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: Closing strategies were off, because you know, he was in 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: a lot of games. He won some games that he 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: didn't win in the previous years, some top ten some wins. 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: So beating Kansas on the roll was awesome. It was 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: just a matter of making adjustments in crucial times. 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes he did great, and most of the times was 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: like if he would have only did. 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: This, And it wasn't a lot of things because I 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: think he ran a good practice. You know, his guys 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: were all prepared. They worked the tail off. Dan and 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time around the program, and 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: we see the work that him and the staff puts 64 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: in very little work. He was starting to get dark 65 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: circles under his eyes from being up so late trying 66 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: to figure it out. He felt the pressure of the 67 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: community and the fan base coming in when they didn't 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: win as much. He dealt with injuries and sickness, but 69 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: that's every university. 70 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 2: Duke was dealing with it. 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: Now all the major universities are dealing with injuries at 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: the end of the year. It's a long year. His 73 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: problem was when he was in a striking position, he 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: could not get it done. 75 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: And that's the bottom line, Terry. 76 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: In the landscape of openings right now in college basketball, 77 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 1: should this be considered a good job and opportunity. 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: It should be considered an amazing job. 79 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: You've got Jordan Brand, You've. 80 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: Got a college campus that's one of the top twenty 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: five most beautiful in America according to Foruesst magazine. 82 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: Everything is being rebuilt. 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: That's what you said stands for under construction. Everything is 84 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: getting rebuilt. You got administration that's willing to put fonds 85 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: and resources behind you. You've got great academics with doctor 86 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: Joe Lucky. The alumni foundation is throughout the world. We 87 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: were connected. You got a passionate fan base, We've got 88 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: a sports campus. 89 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Everything that you need to win. 90 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: We just need somebody that can push us over the edge. 91 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: Is there someone who intrigues you, Terry, like everybody else. 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: Obviously, Jery Calhoun intrigues me with his success, his understanding 93 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: Bearcat ties, his history here, even if it's for a 94 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: short time. He understands that Bearcat fans are a little unique. 95 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: You know, sixty years ago, sixty plus years are gonna 96 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: be won the championship. 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: Thirty years ago went to the final four. 98 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Kenyon's team and Logan's team, and Fortson's team, and Bobby 99 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: Brandon's team and Patterson's like, we had a bunch of 100 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: teams that were good, and we were prominent, and in 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: the mouths of people and those people that went to 102 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: the NBA from other schools that played against the University 103 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: of Cincinnati talk about how crazy we were, how tough 104 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: we were, how they didn't want. 105 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: To play us in certain situations. 106 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: We had a history of physicality, and we got to 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: get back to the physicality. So we need to coach 108 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: that can find that can that has a certain level 109 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: of toughness and physicality that will hold as guys accountable. 110 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: I don't need to be best friends with my staff 111 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: my team when I'm paying them, I need them to 112 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: do with exactly what we're doing in the we're asking 113 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: to do so. I don't know who that is, but 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: he would be one of the top ones I have 115 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: on my list. 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: Terry, what would you say to the UC fan right 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: now listening to us, who's yelling in their car? 118 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: What about Hugs? What about Bob Huggins? No, I think 119 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: he ran his course here. 120 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: We love Hugs, and I just don't think it's realistic 121 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: to get the expectation out there that Bob's going to 122 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: make it comeback to UNI versus Cincinnati. People always want 123 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: to go back to what worked, and if he didn't 124 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: have the run in that he had at West Virginia, 125 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: they probably would have had a chance that the. 126 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: His path would have blew over here. 127 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: It's been a while. He probably would have came back. 128 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: But as much as we love Hugs and I. 129 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: Love Hugs and everybody would love to see him back, 130 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that's realistic. 131 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: You and Corey are teaming up on a must listen to. 132 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: You entered the world of podcasting. Tell everybody about the 133 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Legends Unplugged podcast. 134 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Legends unplugs. So we're having some fun with it. 135 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: We're getting better with it. Corey and I were talking 136 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: about it for a while and we decided to finally 137 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: team up to do it along with Chris Carper, our 138 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: executive producer. So we're putting it together and we're getting 139 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: better and better and better, and we would have had 140 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: a podcast out today. We would have been doing it 141 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: if he's at the tournament right now. Chris Carper, he's 142 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: our executive producer, So when he gets back, we'll have 143 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put together my ten point playing to fix 144 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: the University of Sistinty basketball program. 145 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: That'll be the topic of our. 146 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: Discussion for our next podcast, which would be aired next week. 147 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: Can't wait. 148 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: Last question back to Hugs. There's a documentary coming out 149 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Beyond the Bench, The Legacy of Bob Huggins. Premiere is Friday, 150 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: April seventeenth, Memorial Hall. You're featured in it. You know 151 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: all about it. Corey's involved, a bunch of former players involve. 152 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: How you've seen it, I would assume I'm just getting 153 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: chills setting this up. 154 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: How cool is it going to be? 155 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: It's really cool because this is going to take you 156 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: to all the highs, some of the lows. You get 157 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: the chance to see his background and why he was 158 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: raised the way he was and the toughness, and it 159 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: seems to be the type a personality what he got 160 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: from his dad, the community that embraced them, like you 161 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: see all the stuff, the lives that he affected, the 162 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: people that he pushed to the edge, how he cared 163 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: for people. Ruby Patterson's mother passing away and he decided 164 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: he wanted to play because his mom would want him 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: to play. And he had one of the most incredible 166 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: games in. 167 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: His career, the most in his career. 168 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: So it's gonna take you on a ride, not just 169 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: here West Virginia. Talk about the players at West Virginia. 170 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: You know Kenyon, Sean Kilpatrick, James White, all the legends 171 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: that we know, and all the legends that they know 172 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: will be talking about the legend Bob Huggins, who not 173 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: just won games, but he changed boys to men. He 174 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: gave him a toughness that can when you're in the 175 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: workforce and you don't feel right and you you're sick 176 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: and you can't get to work, Yeah, get the job done. 177 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: Nobody cares if you're. 178 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: Sick, Yes, get to get you some robotesting. 179 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: But you better go to work, get the job done. 180 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: Because people expect you to get the job done. Matter 181 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: of fact, David Flint was then Sports Illustrated dribbling the 182 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: basketball on the crutch. 183 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: See with that back of the day. Yes, you just 184 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: don't miss practice. 185 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 3: You don't miss practice. If you're gonna play in the game, 186 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: you're gonna practice. And so he requires you to do 187 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: certain things. And at the end of it, you didn't 188 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: want to do it when you first did it, But 189 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: at the end of it you look back and you say, man, 190 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: I'm glad I went through that experience. 191 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: The documentary premiere is Friday, April seventeenth. Memorial Hall ticket information, 192 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: Memorial hallotr dot com, Memorial hallotr dot com. Hey, I 193 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: know crazy day. You've got much more important things going on. 194 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: Send my best birthday wishes to your son. I really 195 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you making time today. 196 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. Len all right, Hey, I just want 197 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: to say this, Yes, Wes is a good dude and 198 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: people should not good and rid to him or you know, 199 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm glad he's gone this type of He was stable 200 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: and he didn't win enough games, but he was stable. 201 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: He didn't call controversy. There was no scandals with him. 202 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: He's a guy that just didn't win enough ballgames and 203 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: people liked him, and there's a lot of people that 204 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: are They knew what had to happen, but they were 205 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: like kind of disappointed because they wanted him to figure 206 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: it out. 207 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: They wanted him to be the guy to help turn 208 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: this thing around. And he turned it. 209 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: To a certain level of temperature. But it needs to 210 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: be turned all the way up, depending on especially when 211 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: you talking about the NIL money and the state of 212 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: college basketball and the state of UC basketball in particular. 213 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: He did get it done. 214 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm sorry because I love his staff, I love those guys, 215 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: and I'm sorry that he wasn't the. 216 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: One that helped turn it around. 217 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: Didn't turn it around, but the next guy will benefit 218 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: from the foundation that he. 219 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: Laid and that is well said. Thank you, Terry. You're welcome.