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Speaker 1: The PGA Championship is well, it's underway, it's this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know the name of the I was

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Speaker 2: Is it sounds like that? It's like ironom inc right,

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Speaker 2: what is it?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what the name of it is.

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Speaker 2: It means something beaver, oh, gladiator. Isn't it Native American?

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Speaker 2: From a Native American word meaning like beaver water, beaver dam, beever, bever,

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Speaker 3: Is there a more street name for that?

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Speaker 2: I know the scientific name. Do you remember it now?

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Speaker 2: The cooter? That's right? The God how did I forget that?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: But it's there because it's just outside of Philly. I

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Speaker 1: mean not just like it's in King of Prussia, but

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Speaker 1: it's not far from Philly.

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Speaker 2: Where was the headline yesterday that said Philadelphia is the

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Speaker 2: best golf destination in the US?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Stop it. They include Philly.

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Speaker 1: Is the better than the beautiful courses in California.

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Speaker 2: Because of the number that are close by. And the

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Speaker 2: number one course in the world is in South Jersey.

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Speaker 3: Are you being serious?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Which one?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: It's better than Augusta Kristen?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Is it Pine Valley or is that all

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Speaker 2: my children.

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Speaker 3: That's sad.

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Speaker 2: Which which one is Pine Valley the golf course. Are

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Speaker 2: all my children are?

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Speaker 4: You say?

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Speaker 3: Yes, all my children are? Yes.

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Speaker 1: Golf Hey, their babies, Hey, their babysitters. It's the all

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Speaker 1: my kids update. Remember I mentioned that what is the

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Speaker 1: I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Valley are?

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Speaker 2: They both both Pine Valley both are right?

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, so say that again.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is the top golf destination in the hunt.

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Speaker 2: This was an opinion piece, but they cited and included.

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Speaker 2: They said, we're including the one in Camden County, New Jersey. Pine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, listen, if you live in Cherry Hill,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, you live in Philly. It is the same

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Speaker 1: way that if I'm in Seattle and somebody says, where

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Speaker 1: are you from? I'm not going to break it down

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Speaker 1: to I'm from Arlington, you just say d C.

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: But that is the Pine Valley. The golf course is

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Speaker 1: the number one golf course in.

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Speaker 2: The country, no in the world, in the world, it

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Speaker 2: tops lists all the time.

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Speaker 1: I would have guessed, I would have guessed the Masters

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Speaker 1: or not. Whatever that course is.

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Speaker 3: Augusta. I know I can't play there.

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Speaker 1: I'll also never play Pine Valley.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about the golf course. Yes, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Now we've thrown out two things that people may attach

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Speaker 1: Membership is strictly by invitation only at which one at

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Speaker 1: Pine Valley?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Gusta's ranked on the Golf died or golf dot

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Speaker 3: Augusta National's eighth and Pine Valley's won. What, just out

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Speaker 3: of curiosity, what's number two?

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Speaker 2: Pebble Beach Cyprus Point Course and St Andrews is third.

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Speaker 3: That's the one in Scotland, That's right? What was I saying? Oh?

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Speaker 1: With it being in Philly? Essentially are people from here

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Speaker 3: Here's my question.

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Speaker 1: Can I find somebody who's going this weekend?

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Speaker 3: You think so? I'm being serious? I know, so you're

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Speaker 3: going shut up? That's you didn't know that I win?

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Speaker 2: Do know?

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Speaker 3: Christen didn't tell me she was going. Yeah, there's one.

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Speaker 3: Well we knew the Why did they know?

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know? Hmm, I guess that was a

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Speaker 3: Good for you? That's very exciting. Is Mike going? I'm

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Speaker 1: Will you other than Kristin, can I find somebody who's going?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: I do believe so as well, Kristin, will you see

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Speaker 1: if you can find anybody who's like you and is

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Speaker 3: Please? Hey, what's going on? Dude? Are you going to

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Speaker 3: the PGA Championship this weekend?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're on the first ferry right now. We're here today.

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Speaker 3: Dude? Are you serious?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, crack right.

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Speaker 3: Now at a boy. Good for you? Is it? Is

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Speaker 3: it awesome?

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Speaker 5: It is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: We went to the one last year. It's it's super

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Speaker 5: laid back. You get all the free food. It's it's

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Speaker 3: Hey, can I can? How do you how do you

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Speaker 3: get the free food?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 5: That's just what the tournament does. When you pay for

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Speaker 5: your ticket, you get free food and throughout the day

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Speaker 5: alcoholic beverages you gotta pay for separate, but waters and

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Speaker 5: Tota's and all that are free.

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Speaker 1: Is that Is that always the case with the PGA Championship?

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Speaker 5: I believe so. Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And is the is.

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Speaker 1: The correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm gonna mess

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Speaker 1: this up. The Masters is obviously always in Augusta, the

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Speaker 1: correct the the the PGA Championship that moves all over

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Speaker 1: the place, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. So last year is down in Charlotte, and

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Speaker 5: this year it's something near Pennsylvania, and I think next

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Speaker 1: I got youa. Is the course I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the answer is yes. Is the course nice?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of the best courses you could You

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Speaker 5: could go on the fairways here like the putting surfaces

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Speaker 5: that we play on back home.

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Speaker 1: They but I was reading something, Are there absolutely no

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Speaker 5: There's definitely trees, But as far as like from a

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Speaker 3: Because that's what I was reading about. I was reading about.

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Speaker 1: Something where they were talking about I don't know if

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Speaker 1: this is a new fad in golf or if they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's ronom Ink.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like they ripped all the trees out of there,

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Speaker 1: that you have to use your skill. They were like,

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Speaker 1: you could see somebody at minus fifteen, minus twenty win.

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Speaker 3: This thing because all you got to do is just

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Speaker 1: Like there is no bending around trees or it gets

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Speaker 1: It is just wide open and hit it as hard

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you can definitely bomb it here. There's

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Speaker 1: Good for you, Good for you. Hey, dude, have a

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Speaker 1: good time all right, my friend?

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you got it, Talk to you later.

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Speaker 2: So was this I believe it's a Donald Ross course? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Donald Ross designed sits on three hundred acres of rolling

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Speaker 1: The kind of place you post up under some old

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Speaker 3: Well that was then.

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Speaker 1: Now we just ripped out all the trees and it's

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Speaker 1: wide open and it is just Sunblair City.

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Speaker 2: So the tree removal was not from inception of.

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Speaker 3: The no no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't because of some storm that did an

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Speaker 1: They said, the trees are largely gone now, um work

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Speaker 1: amid a trend of Golden Age architecture rebirth, the argument

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Speaker 1: that Ross never intended them to be there. Wait, so

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Speaker 1: you think that he never wanted trees there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you said.

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Speaker 1: The canopy that defined the place was a post war imposition. However,

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Speaker 1: there's been a vocal counter this week about what that

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Speaker 1: decision will cost here it is. Rory McElroy said there's

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Speaker 3: Xander Schaffley and John Rahm.

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Speaker 1: Echoed the sentiment, both pointing to the property's aggressive tree

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Speaker 1: forgiving the layout becomes when the trees that once compressed

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Speaker 3: From the norm. I see, and now the norm is

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Speaker 2: Some of these shots do look weird. It says if

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Speaker 2: we went in with artificial intelligence and took the trees

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Speaker 1: I see what he means, Like, yes, there are a

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Speaker 2: It's unique, Yeah, for sure. I mean how it plays

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Speaker 3: Am I doing line three?

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Speaker 6: Hi Elliot in the morning, Elliott, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Who's this?

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Speaker 2: This is Zach.

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Speaker 6: I AM currently up at Fort Indian Town Gap. I

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Speaker 6: was calling just to say that my army unit is

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Speaker 6: actually the ones doing the flyover on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Dude. That's freaking awesome, Dude, that's awesome. Good for you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they were doing practice runs earlier this week for

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Speaker 6: two Chinook two Blackhawks, and I got to see all

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Speaker 6: the cool videos and everything, and it is it is

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Speaker 6: definitely wide open.

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Speaker 1: Hey, can I ask you this the not related to

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Speaker 1: the this weekend or what you're doing on Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Are you Are you in a group that or a team?

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Speaker 3: I should say, do you do you do a lot

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Speaker 3: of flyovers?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What like what other like? What other stuff are you

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Speaker 3: flying over?

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Speaker 6: So we did the Pirates home opener, We'll do Steeler

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Speaker 6: game home opener whenever anything in the Philly area, depending

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Speaker 6: on what. So it's the Punks, Vania Army National Guard, uh,

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Speaker 6: and it's our aviation brigade. So we have Chinook's Blackhawks,

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Speaker 6: and anytime that there is anything local for the state

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Speaker 6: of Pennsylvania, we like to come out and show morale.

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's awesome. Good for you, Good for you.

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Speaker 1: I gotcha, And I'm guessing like the next time, like

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Speaker 3: And do a flyover for that.

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Speaker 6: Uh, maybe I'd have to talk to my commander about it.

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Speaker 6: But as long as we get some sort of training

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Speaker 1: You don't want to train to see what it's like

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Speaker 1: if you had a god forbid go flying into Rockville

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Speaker 3: At least now you've got a point of reference. Hey,

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Speaker 3: have fun tomorrow. That's awesome. It's a pleasure to talk

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, Hey, you guys.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: My friend get that number.

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Speaker 2: If he can't do it, I know a mom in

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Speaker 2: Illinois who has a helicopter from Karen on our way

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Speaker 2: to the PGA right now on the Bay Bridge, Tony writes,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to the PGA on Sunday, leaving Saturday morning

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Speaker 2: to play golf. That's maybe what we're talking about it

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Speaker 2: the trees as storyline development is a very PGA championship thing.

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Speaker 2: This is the major that has produced more genuine oddities

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Speaker 3: Oh that was what's his face? Scotti Scheffler.

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Speaker 2: Strange things happen here, and the strangeness tends to stick.

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Speaker 2: So yes, panic about twenty under winning scores is entirely real,

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Speaker 3: Wait, so THEPGA Championship.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't in Pennsylvania though, when Scotti Scheffler got arrested. No,

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Speaker 1: they just mean that tournament in general.

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Speaker 2: Because each major carries its own identity, its own unspoken

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Speaker 2: US Open asks you to root for the course. The Open,

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Speaker 3: I don't get them.

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Speaker 2: It just wants the best tournament it can put on.

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Speaker 2: That sounds modest. It isn't freed from the obligation of mythology.

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Speaker 2: The PGA has quietly become the most reliably entertaining major

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Speaker 3: Is that a fair statement?

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Speaker 2: The one least interested in its own symbolism? And most

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Speaker 1: Is that Is that a fair statement, Kristin, Yeah, Kristin says, yes.

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Speaker 2: It is the only golf event I've ever been to.

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Speaker 3: You've been to a PGA Championship.

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Speaker 2: I have. I went to Wingedfoot.

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Speaker 3: That always makes me laugh.

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Speaker 1: Wait, Where's wait, where's Wingfoot? Which is that the Black Course?

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Speaker 2: Oh you're thinking of Beth Page.

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Speaker 3: Be Page Black, Baba.

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Speaker 2: Believe this is in New York State. Also, though, gotcha,

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Speaker 2: I was there for I think it was ninety six

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Ernie Els, I was just trying

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Speaker 3: Were you there for the whole thing?

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Speaker 2: Just the weekend?

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Speaker 3: But like, did you see that, like the win? No?

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Speaker 1: That would be cool to see somebody like win on

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Speaker 1: the eighteenth, That would be pretty cool. Hi, Elliott the morning,

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Speaker 1: Hi with me, and I don't even care about golf, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Yes, first time caller, a one time listener, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna help.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna help give some contacts about the tree

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, please please.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: These trees were only supposed to live about sixty seventy

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Speaker 4: by removing the trees, you have better course conditions. But

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Speaker 3: I gotcha.

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Speaker 1: So the tree removal is really for the other three

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Speaker 4: Aeronomicks signed this contract in twenty seventeen, so you know,

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Speaker 4: of like, sambuy do Dan if you.

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Speaker 3: Don't yeah, right, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: is this golf's way of going? We just want like

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Speaker 1: I'm a baseball guy, right, is this golf's way of going.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think you can. I mean. Part

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. That course looked very difficult when I

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Speaker 1: But by the way, I want it to look difficult.

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Speaker 1: And again like I'll never play it, right, I'll probably

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Speaker 4: Well that's what the US opens for.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, that's what I cheer for the course.

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Speaker 4: I cheer for the course exactly. Like what Tyler was

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Speaker 3: Do you like?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you agree though, that the PGA Championship

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I think the US opens awesome. That's like

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Speaker 4: And then the Masters because it's it's just iconic and

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, no, I get where they're like the history

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Speaker 3: I get that. I get that. I mean I don't

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Speaker 4: We're all named after flowers.

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Speaker 3: Then that's not what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 3: Public execution?

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Speaker 1: Amen, corner, Amen corners? Yeah, thank you, all right, very good?

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Speaker 1: Well whatever, all right, dude, Hey, I appreciate it. You

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Speaker 3: I like that explanation like that helped now I at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actually he sort of stow. This writer's thunder for

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Speaker 2: But that's a conversation for next month at Shinnecock, where

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Speaker 2: The story that everyone will complain about is that the open. Yes,

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Speaker 2: for decades, the PGA Championship sold itself on borrowed credibility,

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Speaker 2: The PGA Championship has stopped shouting, which is beautiful in itself.

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Speaker 3: Thank you,