WEBVTT - 1-10-26 Ken Broo 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:10.680 Now your host Ken Brew on news Radio seven hundred 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:12.399 w welw come on in. 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.280 We don't play well we did years ago, but we 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.440 beat the rap. Welcome on in to another Saturday Afternoon extravaganza. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.280 It has been a week. It has been a week, 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:23.360 and so. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.680 Much has transpired, both on the national and international stage, 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.680 that it's often difficult to keep up from things that 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.199 are occurring globally with the President to things that are 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:33.720 occurring right here in our country. 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:35.400 The shootings in. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:39.040 Portland and Minneapolis involving ICE agents, and all of the 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.680 rhetoric nonsense, most of it from politicians that abound. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:44.760 It's hard for me to believe that any. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.200 Of these people that are speaking out against ICE really 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.519 care about the woman that was killed, whether she was 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.440 in the right or the wrong. They desperately want to 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.240 change the narrative from what is a growing scandal in Minnesota, 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:02.520 in Minneapolis in particular, involving fraud and Somalians and a 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.679 fraud that may even extend here to the state of 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.760 Ohio and other points in between. They want to change 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.440 the narrative, and unfortunately, there was a shooting that helped them, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:12.160 particularly with. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:13.160 The mainstream media. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:19.319 Meanwhile, Internationally, you have Venezuela and Iran and Greenland. Back home, 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.480 you got Scotis Supreme Court of these United States on 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.840 Trump's tariffs and a number of other things in between. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:27.280 It's going to be. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.520 A tough thing to get done in the next fifteen 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.000 or twenty minutes, but I'm going to try because I 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.680 have a man standing by who may be the finest 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.520 political mind of our time, someone who understands the inner 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.920 workings of all of this. You can find him on 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.520 Real Clear Politics as a number of other places. I 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.200 believe we'll get into that. He's a good guest of 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:51.160 this program. And his name, obviously is kenn Spivak and Kennan, 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.160 how aren't you on this Glory Is Saturday. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.880 I am fantastic, but I would prefer sitting the expectations 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:00.320 low so I might exceed them. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.960 That's right, under promise and overdelivered. I got that. Welcome 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.239 to radio. I'm going to be really I guess hopscotch 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.559 with my questions here because there's so many. I'll start Internationally. Venezuela. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.000 We heard again this week the President say that he's 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.160 not into nation building in Venezuela. But they got Maduro out. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.400 They're trying to reset the structure in there. They have 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:28.399 nobody in charge. The vice president seems to be at 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.200 least mildly corrupt because she was part of the Maduro regime. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.519 How do we go into Venezuela, do what we do 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.480 and say we're going to be there probably for three 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.480 or four years, and have it not be nation building? 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.120 Help me throw that one? Can you? 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:45.280 All right? Well? 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.480 This is something really very very different. I want to 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.760 give credit to a calling you find it real clear 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:55.240 David de Rosis, who wrote a terrific article about the 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.360 difference between going in on normal nation like what we 0:02:59.400 --> 0:02:59.840 did in A. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.440 And this from afar. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:09.080 Coercing the existing, as they say, management, the existing government 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.480 of the country to do what we want. Now, we 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.760 don't know if this is going to work. We know 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.040 that this is avoiding boots on the ground. We know 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.440 that it is so far, in a very short period 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.679 of time, seeming to work. But there is no way 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.359 to accomplish what we want. First, it'll stop the second 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.560 we have a change in administration, unless maybe it's to 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.639 another Republican and even then it might stop. The commitment 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.160 might not be the same. Second for this to work, 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:43.800 will require continuing effort by the US, contrary to world 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.040 opinion of what America should be doing. Because look, let's 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:51.680 face facts, getting Maduro out was in many ways a 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.480 law enforcement operation. We've done it many times before. But 0:03:55.520 --> 0:04:00.760 what we're doing now does involve elements of imperialists. It 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:06.960 involves economic imperialism regarding their oil, it involves elements of 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:14.520 healthcare imperialism regarding the drugs. This is not. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.440 A simple one off operation. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:25.200 This is maybe a very clever, less risky building. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:31.040 Okay, So it sounds like that everybody is starting to 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.560 feel their way through this thing, and we'll see exactly 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.159 if there are outside players with all of this. I 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.680 refer to, of course, the country of China. Let's hop 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:45.080 scotch to around. Apparently there's great unrest there. The economy 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.640 is in free fall, if it hasn't already crashed, and 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:53.920 Homine is saying that, okay, these protests better stop, or 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.440 we're going to start banging heads. Trump says, you start 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.599 banging heads, you might feel the wrath of the United States. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:01.680 Aron's week. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.640 We know that internally externally, how big of a situation 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.920 is that and how much of a commitment do you 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.919 think the United States is willing to make if that 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.840 regime falls. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.360 Obama and before him Trump. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:21.520 I'm sorry Bush lost the chance to use U power 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:26.479 to support uprisings in around. Trump is not going to 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.640 lose that opportunity. And I do think we're going to 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:36.800 see some use of force special forces, perhaps Israel, in 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.440 support of this uprising. I think that Trump has a 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.760 commitment to see this uprising result in regime change. I 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:51.040 don't think you're going to see the US to see 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:57.240 the US, at least through special forces operations effectuating the 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.880 change in control and around. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.040 Okay, all right, they may just implode on their own 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.719 and then we'll see what happens in there. To pick 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.320 up the pieces. There's a lot going on internationally. I 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.320 want to get to Greenland. I look at Greenland. Trump 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:15.200 wants Greenland, Greenland. He said there are military reasons why. 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.000 There's also the element of minerals that Greenland has that 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.880 we want in the United States. I see three options 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.360 for Trump. Let me know if you think there's a fourth. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.560 He can invade it militarily. If he does, I think 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.920 that could be the end of NATO. He could buy it. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.680 Sounds like he may be trying to buy off some 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.479 people inside Greenland as we speak, or he could work 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:40.200 with the Danes for more military presence and these minerals. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.640 I would suggest door number three. But I go back 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.120 to the original question. I think we talked about maybe 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.800 the last time you were on much of it. How 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.159 much of an immediate interest is this for Trump with 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.480 all of this other stuff going on internationally? 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:58.680 This is crazy. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.760 This talk of in Greenland has got to stop. And 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.960 I've said that on the show before. Talking about it 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.040 is almost as bad as doing it. It is contrary 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:13.800 to all core American values. I think it's important to Trump. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.360 It was important to Trump in the first administration. Now 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.720 that he had this terrific success in Venezuela, he and 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.760 are back on this. What most people don't realize is 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:32.960 we already have a treaty that gives the US troops 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.720 and US forces in Greenland in as many bases as 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.880 we want. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:43.440 We want. 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.520 We already can do a lot of what it is 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.920 that we need to do in Greenland, which is to 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:50.960 use Greenland to. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.360 Protect the US. 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.640 From China and Russian adventurousness. But we don't need to 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:00.400 do it by invading a country which is part of NATO. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.320 Which is part of the European Union, which is an ally, 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.400 and we need to go through door three, use a 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:13.360 combination of economic incentives enforcing the existing treaty. And we 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.200 need to stop this talk of attacking a NITO ally. 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.080 Yeah, I understand the strategic situation that goes on there, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.200 but you're right, that benefits nobody. It just makes a 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.080 situation that could have a positive effect even more difficult 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:27.720 to achieve. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:28.800 All right, let's come home. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.200 I think it was seventeen Republicans joined Democrats this week 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.880 the pass in essence the subsidies for Obamacare extend them 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:38.880 for three more years. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.640 I think the vote was two thirty. I think they 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.360 got two hundred and thirty positive votes on that. Riya's 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:44.800 on that. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.160 Does that survive a filibuster in the Senate? In other words, 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.559 was this a show vote inside the House and when 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.160 it gets to the Senate, it's not going to survive 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.840 a filibuster, And then in essence put us on a 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.680 road perhaps for another governm and shutdown. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.319 It's not going to survive a celibuster. It was a mistake. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.400 Those Republicans should not have done what they did. A 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:13.560 six month extension fine, a one year extension even I 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.800 could understand that, but a three year extension for subsidies 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.479 that were never intended to be part of the program, 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:26.760 that are subsidizing millionaires and billionaires, that are undermining ability 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:31.440 to control health care, and that go against the policy 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:35.400 of an administration that they're trying. It was a terrible mistake, 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.240 but it will, in hindsight, have been show votes. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.439 Yeah, what does that do for a potential shutdown? 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:42.760 Though? 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.640 I mean, because this was the big folk rum right 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:46.839 back in the fall. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.480 Yeah, was so if I'm not mistaken, and place correct 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.800 me if I'm wrong that we run out of money 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.040 allegedly at the end of this month, don't we? 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:58.199 Right right. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.120 On, I learned that it was better to give predictions 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.920 that no one will know if they're true or false 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:04.199 for at. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:05.040 Least a few years. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.439 This one's last twenty seven days away. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.240 I don't think there. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:16.200 Will be another shutdown, but this vote made one more 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:21.319 likely because it gives cover to the Democrats that there 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.240 is by partisan support for. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:28.040 What they want to do. So I had the vote not. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.720 Gone this way, I would have ruled out a shutdown 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:35.560 with this vote. I think it's unlikely, but it's not impossible. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.400 I do hope that there's another shutdown that Trump this 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:45.800 time more fully effectuates what he threatened last time, which 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.960 is to use the shutdown to downsize of. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:51.440 Yeah. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.400 I think it goes back to what I believe that 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.480 every Democrat in Washington is a Democrat, but not every 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.800 Republican is a Republican in Washington. D see, and obviously 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.920 these seventeen are scared to death about re election in 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.400 November as opposed to what may or may not be best 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.400 for the country. That's a discussion for another day. I'm 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.480 wondering we had that shooting in Minneapolis this week, we 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.400 had the shooting in Portland this week, and we saw 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:22.080 what ensued. Where those go legally, particularly the one in Minneapolis, 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:23.559 is not something that we know. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.079 You and I know at this point whether the. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.840 Officer involved, the ice officer involved, was in self defense, 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.280 whether it was something else. But we did see what 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:36.079 happened afterwards, and that were these instant, almost call to 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.480 arms demonstrations that take over a city. Now I think 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.840 there's a there's some sort of zone that's been set 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.439 up again in Portland where I guess the mob can 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:50.920 rule and destroy businesses. Why doesn't the president just enforce 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:56.560 the Insurrection Insurrection Act that other presidents before him did. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.600 I mean, JFK did it, LBJ did it, albeit a 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:04.120 long time ago in different circumstances in Alabama and other 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.120 places in the South. But my question is is he 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.559 could end a lot of the stuff that we've seen 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.440 in the wake of these shootings if he just said, 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.839 look enough, this is what we're doing and we're in 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.880 full compliance with the law. You're staging an insurrection and 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.000 you will be arrested if you continue. Seems to me 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.880 he has that power and he doesn't want to do it. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.240 Can you understand why he wouldn't want to do it? 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.079 Yeah, first, I'm not so sure. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:33.079 Well, let me back up. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.640 I think that all. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:40.240 Of these demonstrations and many of these elected Democrat officials 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:46.680 are in advocating insurrection. I believe that Ice has the 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.800 right and the duty to enforce US law. The fact 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.360 that Biden chose to let in ten or twelve or 0:12:54.360 --> 0:13:01.920 fifteen million illegal aliens doesn't void the Trump administration's right 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:06.959 and duty to deport those illegal aliens, and particularly those 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:11.840 involved in criminal activity. And I strongly support the right 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.439 of the federal government to enforce federal law. And I 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:23.000 strongly disapprove of Democrats who are using this shooting or 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.480 other activities to really do nothing more than say we 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.440 want the illegal aliens to come into the US and stay, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.280 and we oppose the right of the federal government to 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:38.720 enforce federal law. But not all demonstrations and not all 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:44.439 talk are insurrection. Not everything we've seen is insurrection. Seen 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:50.320 demonstrators walk up to ICE during law enforcement activities and 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.520 interfere in those law enforcement activities, that is at least 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.480 an element of insurrection. And that may be insurrection. When 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:03.880 we see demonstrators not interfering in operations but merely demonstrating, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:09.640 or elected officials saying stupid things, that's not insurrection. Coming 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:14.679 back to Trump, we're already seeing, as a practical matter, 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:19.480 the impact of federal troops or federal law enforcement in 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:24.480 localities that don't want them there. We're already seeing the 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.760 violence that's resulting from that. And I put the entire 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.880 blame for that on the demonstrators and the Democrat elected officials, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:37.200 and none on the Trump administration. Even if it turns 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:42.040 out that this ICE officer was in the gray zone 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.560 for whether he should have used lethal force, or even 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.240 if it turns out that he made a mistake, and 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.440 I think it looks like he didn't make a mistake, 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.560 and I think it looks like he acted lawfully. But 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.200 I agree with you, we need to see some more 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.360 of the process play out on that. But I do 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:02.320 think Trump's going to continue to be cautious about this. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:07.360 He's also bought decisions go against the federalization of the 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:13.200 National Guard, even when being deployed to protect federal facilities. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.000 On the other hand, the Ninth Circuit did allow him 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.960 to deploy the National Guard for that purpose, and he 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.520 was allowed to do it in Washington, d C. So 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:26.640 not all the decisions have gone against him. To end 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.880 this fairly long answer, I'm not so sure that what 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:34.880 we're seeing is an insurrection from a legal point of view. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.520 But what we're seeing is certainly a political insurrection from 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.040 people who think it's okay to use violence if they 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.240 don't like federal law. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.960 Yeah, I don't know how these guys with ice do 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.920 their job. Then, particularly in Minneapolis and Portland, Chicago, some 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.400 of these other places, there's little if any cooperation with 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.080 the local authorities there, so they're basically sitting ducks and 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.520 anybody that that what happened in Minneapolis was not going 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.200 to happen at some point simply was not paying attention. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.120 And I don't know what the answer to that is, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.200 because Trump's not going to back down. We do have 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.280 ten I think the number is greater than ten to 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.640 twelve million, but who knows, let's go with that number. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.600 They're here for a reason, they're here for a political 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.360 reason more than anything else. They're votes. That's the way 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.280 Democrats they'll eventually be votes. And so because of that, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.880 these guys with ice are just sitting out there and 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.640 they're on an island. So I don't know what the 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.360 answer is. Maybe you do as to what happens in 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.720 the cities where there's no cooperation. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:44.560 Well, Chicago, Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle have all given orders to 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:49.040 police forces not to protect ice. That means ice, which 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:54.160 is not trained in riot situations, has to protect itself, 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:59.240 and that's when what happens in Minneapolis happens. That's we 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:04.119 saw another shoe also happened with border patrol. It's going 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.359 to happen more and more if the police don't step in. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.199 It's going to happen more and more. If Democrat officials 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.880 don't get their act together and understand that saying that 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:20.199 ICE is ripping apart families and that you get the 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:25.080 f out, none of that is helpful. ICE is enforcing 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.320 federal law, and federal law was violated when Joe Biden 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:33.960 let in whatever number of millions of illegal, unvetted, illegal 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:39.480 aliens he allowed in. He allowed in Chinese military troops, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.160 he allowed in drug dealers, he allowed in rapists, he 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:47.480 allowed in people from all around the world without any vetting. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:52.399 And this notion about aligning with our values. People who 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:56.920 come here whose goals and values are antithetical to American 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.840 values don't need to be coming here. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:01.240 There are probably are. 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.760 A lot of immigrants who are good people who if 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.359 it come in legally, I would be delighted to have 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.639 them here. But they didn't come in legally, and we 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.280 don't know that because there was no process. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.880 Or vetting exactly exactly. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:16.679 And I do think we're going to see more of this, 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:17.680 and it's not good. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:18.600 No, it's not. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.560 And I don't think a lot of these politicians really 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.080 give a rats rear end about that woman that was killed. 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.040 I really don't. I don't mean to be callous about it. 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.320 Anytime life is lost, it's a tragedy, particularly someone young 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.760 as she was. I think Tim Walls jumped on this 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.240 and the mayor of Minneapolis jumped on this because they 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.399 desperately wanted to change the narrative which has been in 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.919 there about the fraud that goes on in that state, 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.840 and they use I think this woman as a pawn 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.320 just to get the conversation away from all of that. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:53.000 Tim Walls certainly fray the mayor, maybe not phrase the 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:57.200 radical left mayor, who I think believes what he's saying. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:03.320 I think he is overently opposed to limits on immigration. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.040 To Trump and to Ice. Tim Maall's is a different 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.240 story in Tim Wall's clearly was using this to try 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.920 to move the narrative along. Well. One point that's important 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.560 is we don't need to wait for all these illegal 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:20.280 aliens to become voters for them to move the election 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.880 toward Democrats because they're counted in the census. Now Trump 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.679 positioned in executive order not to count them. That's also 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.639 moving itself through the courts. But over the last thirty 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:35.400 forty years, illegal aliens have counted in the census. The 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:40.320 census is used to allocate Congress people, and so depending 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.879 upon where these people live, they can increase the number 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:48.680 of Democrat representatives in the House even before they can vote. 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:49.840 Yeah. 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.520 Well, yeah, I know people that have been commissioned by 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.000 the Census Bureau and they're fighting the same thing people 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.080 that have been a guest on my show. But Kenn Spivack, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.720 it's always great to how can you bring great perspective 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.040 to things that seem out of control? You're at RealClearPolitics 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.360 dot com and of course on Newsmack you're a star 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.280 of your star of untold proportions. At this point, I'd 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.240 like to think maybe appearing on my show has helped 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.000 out along, but that would be egotistical on my part, 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.160 and I'm not about to walk down that road other 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.480 than to say, I hope you have a great weekend 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.679 and you'll answer the phone when we call again. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.800 We will, and your show is always the high point. 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:27.199 I love being on it. 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:31.560 Thank you all right, to stay well, Kennon Spivac, RealClearPolitics 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.600 dot com. It's coming up on twelve twenty seven. It's 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:37.119 Saturday afternoon. It's you and me seven hundred wl W 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.679 twelve forty one on this Saturday twelve forty one. Welcome 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:53.760 Back seven hundred a WLW Kenbrew right till Xavier basketball 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.440 later on this afternoon. I'll be a three thirty Airtime 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:02.440 four o'clock tip Byron and Joe with old play as 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:07.480 someone either Xavier or you see looks for traction. In 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:12.120 this particular season, Miami is playing exceptionally well. Northern Kentucky 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:16.080 is doing okay, but two major universities inside the greater 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.920 Cincinnati area not so good. 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.920 We'll see if that particular fortune changes here later this afternoon. 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:28.280 By the way, I mentioned that it was twelve forty one, 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.119 but as you and I both know, it's five o'clock somewhere. 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:37.360 It's one for you, it's one for me. Oh, that's 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:41.879 one for the ages. This is moonshine, isn't it. Well, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.240 I'm not saying it's like illego. Just hold me. 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.200 I've just got time for one. 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.479 More ABV seven hundred. Oh, that could be a problem. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:52.560 What happens in Aja. 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:58.120 I'll be gone and you can let some other pools 0:21:58.320 --> 0:21:59.119 sit down. 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:03.600 Oh, we're going to get into what happens if the 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:08.480 Supreme Court knocks down Trump's tariffs this coming week. Apparently 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:13.040 the fourteenth is the date where the Supreme Court will. 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:13.440 Rule on that. 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:17.520 Well, what happens economically, The market is just exploded, and 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:19.000 so if you're invested, it's great. 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.440 If you're on Main Street and you're not, or. 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.679 If you're looking for your first house, or particularly for 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.399 the gen Z crowd, the economy isn't all that great 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.240 and the job market over the course of the last 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:36.439 year has not been good. Now, a lot of that 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.439 is what you inherit and a lot of it is 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:40.400 what you try to do. And Trump has gone down 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:45.959 this tariff road and it's created a lot of uneasiness, 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.879 shall we say, with the economy, we'll get into one 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:53.159 o'clock what happens if the tariffs get shot down? And 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:57.320 then why is Main Street and Wall Street so disconnected? 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:03.040 Two o'clock the Vake Ramaswami has made his selection his 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.119 running mate, and it sounds like it was a bone 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:10.719 to the current governor of Ohio, Mike the Wine, And 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:12.640 I don't know if that's good or bad, but we'll 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.720 find out. Rebecca Downs from the Daily Signal is going 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.159 to join us. She covers Ohio politics and does it 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.119 as she does better than anybody know. But We're going 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.280 to get her opinion on all of that, and also 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:30.480 what Amy Actin, the presumptive Democrat nominee, what she did 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.240 with David Pepper this week and did that really help 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:38.280 her ticket? Amy Actin, maybe other than Mike de Wine, 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:43.360 maybe the most divisive politician that's out there right now, 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:47.080 largely due to the way she did what she did 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.800 with shutdowns and whatnot during COVID. But the dem seem 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:52.400 to think that they got a chance to take that 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:57.200 governor's seat and that's who they're running with. So does 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:01.240 Pepper help her or not? So on the show today, 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:08.600 it's a blockbusters show every single time it comes into 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:15.160 our city. I'm talking about the Elvis Tribute Spectacular. Oh 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:19.720 it's tonight at the Aeronov Center. Elvis tribute artists including 0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.679 Sean Clush, will be on stage. Also on stage is 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:27.840 a guy who has been joined at the hip with Elvis. 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:32.760 You'vehamistically speaking since Elvis left the building in nineteen seventy seven. 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:37.960 But his backup singers were the Stamps Quartet, led by J. D. Sumner, 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.320 who had one of the lowest, the. 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:45.840 Lowest, the lowest, the lowest voices in recorded history. 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:47.080 JD. 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:48.119 Is no longer with us. 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.399 He's left the earth, but the guy that's now in 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.920 charge of the Stamps core Tet Elvis's backup singers will 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.040 join us later on the program. 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:57.280 Ed Enoch in. 0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:01.640 Town for the show tonight as well. Did you watch 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.800 the game last night? Did you watch Indiana systematically pick 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:13.199 apart Oregon right from jump to the National Championship game 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.960 with a fifty six twenty two win over the Oregon Ducks. 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.520 This game was even more lopsided than the final score 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:24.959 would indicate. For Ernando Mendoza Heisman Trophy winners, seventeen of 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.880 twenty one hundred and seventy seven yards five count them 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:33.960 one two, three, four, five, five touchdowns spread out over 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:39.359 one two three four different receivers, and Fernando Mendoza, with 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:44.840 his performance last night, was absolutely astounded. Now, after the game, 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:48.639 the head coach was corralled on the field by whoever 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:50.840 was part of that broadcast crew and was doing the 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:57.480 on field interviews, and she asked Kurt Signetti, the guy 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:01.760 that never seems to smile. She asked him whether he was, 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.639 you know, looking ahead already to that championship matchup against 0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.879 the University of Miami here's coach Signetti. Listen to the question. 0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.280 I know you're thinking about the next game, but when 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.280 will you stop and appreciate how special and how historic 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:18.000 all of this has been. 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:19.840 I'm really not thinking about the next game. 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:21.639 I'm thinking about cracking open a beer. 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:24.159 There you go. 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.840 That's about as humorous as it gets for Indiana. But 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.000 they don't need humor. They've got a great football team. 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:31.679 And if I had a make book right now, I 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.119 would ride on Indiana. All due respect to the you, 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.240 and they're playing very well. I would ride on Indiana. 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:44.520 Mendoza especially, this is a guy that, let's face it, 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:47.359 he has gotten better as the season has progressed, so 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.879 much so that he has won the current Heisman Trophy. 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:53.520 Here's Mendoza after the game and just his journey this year. 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.240 Yeah, I would say I have came a long way 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.679 from you know, being here in January, being Game one 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.400 came on through your pass. I was trying to be superman, 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.280 and then the coaching staff settled me down. He's like, hey, 0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:04.680 you don't got to be superman. We have a great 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.679 defense and a great superstars, you know, playmakers and alvisly 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.720 on offense, so just do your job. So my job 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.120 is to be effective with making you know, really accurate 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.320 balls and really great decisions. And that's why i pride 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.760 myself on every single play and so I'm glad those 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:19.400 results of game. 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.680 However, none of that matters. All that matters right now 0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:22.320 is National. 0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:28.440 Championship the National Championship Game, and the National Championship Game 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:32.040 is coming up on the nineteenth between the University of 0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:35.480 Miami and Indiana. Like I said, if I had to 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.720 make book on it right now, I would ride it 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.080 on IU. But you know, you can't get caught up 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.960 in the moment. Miami played very well the other night 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:49.360 against Ole, miss not as well as Indiana played last night. 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:55.359 So uh Duke Tobin, the de facto general manager of 0:27:55.560 --> 0:28:00.440 your Cincinnati Bengals, held a news conference yesterday. It's fun 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.520 to watch Twitter leading up to it. Breathless were some 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:07.280 of the tweets, both from people that report on the 0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.720 Bengals and people that are just fans, like this was 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:14.920 going to be akin to what Winston Churchill was going 0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:19.879 to say to the Supreme Allied Command before D Day. 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.960 And anybody that's been around and watched how the Bengals 0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.960 operate knows that This was not going to be anything 0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.960 that would reveal any way that would provide a window 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.800 into the way the Bengals operate. Anybody that thought Duke 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.199 tobd was going to come out yesterday and say, you 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.280 know what, I've screwed up this thing six ways till Sunday. 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.960 I'm going to resign, it wasn't going to happen. 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.800 Anybody that thought Duke Tobin was going to come out 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:52.360 yesterday and say, the problem is Zach Taylor doesn't know 0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.840 what to do it crunch time. He just doesn't know 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.760 what plays to call, and he's under the gun and 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.680 he better go five out of the shoot and qualify 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.400 for the playoffs in twenty twenty six wasn't going to happen. 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.080 If anybody thought he was going to say, you know 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.320 what the problem is here. We have enough scouts, we 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.720 have enough people looking at talent, and that's why sometimes 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.400 we make draft picks that confound even elementary school children. 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:24.240 Wasn't gonna happen. Duke Tobin did say yesterday that, yes, 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.560 the season, this past one was a disappointment. 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:33.040 It was frustrating, it was challenging, it was disappointing for 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.360 all of us. But More importantly, it was all those 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.760 things for our fans. We feel that that weighs on us. 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.600 It hurts us because we know that they have high 0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.920 expectations for us. We embrace those high expectations. Believe me, 0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:54.120 we have high expectations for this football team as well. 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.640 Yeah, you could have rolled him out there at any 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.200 point and he would have said the same thing. They're 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:00.960 going to roll him out of the combine, He's going 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.560 to say the same thing. I think the whole thing 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:08.080 yesterday was theater and it was basically to appease the 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:12.480 fan base that it is a complete disconnect between what 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:18.200 the Bengals do and what they're fans that actually support 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:23.800 that team monetarily and otherwise what they expect. So they 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.520 rolled the guy out. It's not like he's been around 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.120 for six minutes. He's basically at his hands on the 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:34.520 construction of this team since the turn of the millennium. 0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:36.600 And yeah, I. 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.640 Understand where he thought. It was a disappointment, and I 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:44.440 understand why the fans thought it was disappointing to hear 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:49.680 him say this about his scouting department and how, let's 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.360 just say, how thin it might be. 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:58.000 Our scouting staff in my opinion is it is the 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.720 size that it is because I think the collaboration. 0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:03.920 Is better at that size. 0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.440 We have never lacked for information on a player. There's 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.040 never been a player selected that we didn't know anything about. 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.920 There's never been a player selected that we didn't have 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:19.400 multiple reports and large background on. It's not about the 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:23.040 volume of information we have. If we make a mistake, 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:27.120 it's because at the decision point we made the wrong decision. 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.040 But it wasn't because we didn't have information on the player. 0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:34.719 We have information, and we have plenty of opinion. 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.200 On the and they also have a lot of clunkers. 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.720 I mean, just go back to twenty twenty. You take 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.480 Berwin Higgins one two, I mean, anybody could have made 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:49.120 those picks. Logan Wilson in round three, a Keen Davis. 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.560 Gathery's still in the leg, serviceable but hardly a star. 0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.920 And then of course it completely fell apart with Khalid 0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:02.480 Kareem and Hakeem Dientity. I mean they'd played a dentergy 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:08.400 a while a tackle. He's there was nothing special about him. 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:13.480 Twenty oh one, twenty twenty one, Chase, anybody could have 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:18.320 made that pick. Jackson Carmen in round two clunker. After 0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.560 you get past Joseph Asai and Cam Sample. Pretty good guys, 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.160 pretty good players. Carmen Osai's going to make a boatload 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:29.840 of money this offseason. Tyler Shelvin Huh, Dante Smith. What 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.600 they did get McPherson. They also got Wyatt Huber and 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.360 Chris Evans. I mean, I could go on and on 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:40.320 in these lists. You're you're you're going to look at 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.160 the body of a draft and what you got out 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.640 of it and then see if you exceeded what the 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.040 norm is for the NFL. There's only about thirty to 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.080 forty percent of NFL draft picks ever make an active 0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:57.040 roster forty percent of your picks, you get that you're 0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:01.320 about at league average, But how many actually become a 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.880 major contributor. There was a study that was out that 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:08.800 found about thirty two percent of drafted players become major contributors. 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.240 Now that would be like three and a half seasons, 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:16.840 a certain number of snaps. I'm not defending Duke Tobin. 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.440 Duke Tobin is what he is, and this team is 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.440 what it was or has been over the course of 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:26.840 his tenure. Here some good years, some bad years, But 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.720 I don't think if you have a robust scouting department 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:35.680 that does due diligence, that you wind up taking players 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:41.520 like Jermaine Burton, like Jackson Carmen. Remember Carmen was an 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.680 early Day two pick in twenty twenty one. That guy 0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:49.400 couldn't block a doorway. I think if you do due diligence, 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:54.400 you don't draft Cedric o'bahe and think, Okay, we're fine 0:33:55.160 --> 0:34:03.640 replacing perhaps the guy that maybe the best second best 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.880 tackle in the history of your franchise. 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.960 I question about that. I know everybody likes to be 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:13.000 lean and mean. 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.560 Best question of the day was asked by Jason Williams 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.600 of The Inquire and he asked a very simple question. 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.200 Understanding that you think everything is fine, that the coaches 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.360 did a good job at the scouting department, is the 0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:31.719 right size, and everybody has to play harder, why are 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:32.439 you still here? 0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:33.719 Yeah? 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:34.120 You know. 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.240 If your question is do I have confidence in myself? 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:37.640 I do? 0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.760 But most importantly I've got confidence in the people here. 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:42.680 I really do. And I've got. 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.680 Confidence in the processes that we have here, and I've 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.600 got confidence in our ownership. I've got confidence in the 0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:54.520 players we have. We have very good players. It's not 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.040 up to me to determine whether I'm here or not. 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.200 I've been doing this my whole life. It is my life. 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.640 NFL football has been a part of my life since 0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:09.319 I opened my eyes. That is what I do. So 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:13.040 I believe I know this game. I believe I know players, 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.960 and I know for a fact that nobody works at 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:17.719 it more than me. 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:23.319 Okay, so the coaches, the scouting department, the players, everything's fine. 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:28.880 There Again, why are you here? And how much of 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.640 a heat factor is there for you and for tailor 0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.640 for next year? You'll never know because Mike Brown will 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.000 never say. And at the end of all of it, 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.800 it's still Mike Brown's team, a man of immense patients, 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:47.319 immense loyalty. So anybody that thought yesterday was going to 0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:54.800 be some sort of revelation day. 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:56.319 It was never going to happen. It's twelve fifty six 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:56.960 straight ahead. 0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.840 What happens if the Supreme Court tells Trump your tariffs 0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:01.520 and oh good, they're done. 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.680 What happens to you, me and everybody else? 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.800 Because it sounds like the economy, which is burping right along, 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.880 may go straight into the abyss. We'll talk about that 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.839 next seven hundred WLW. 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:26.160 Now your post, Ken Brew on news radio seven hundred WLW, Welcome. 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:30.319 Back on this Saturday. Yes, yes, yes, Saturday in Cincinnati. 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:31.440 Who would like that? 0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:34.960 Sounds like a perfect day for me. Even if outside 0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.120 it's not all that swift, doesn't matter. That's how we'd 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.440 like it in January. We like it as long as 0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:41.920 it's not snowing in January as. 0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:42.279 What we like. 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:49.359 Nevertheless, for whatever reason, the Supreme Court decided not to 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:54.759 rule on Trump's tariffs that was expected to come down 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.319 last Thursday or Friday. It now is supposedly going to 0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:02.279 come down sometime this week. And what it does, and 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.520 the Supreme Court is more than likely going to rule 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.360 against Trump and his tariffs, it will throw for the 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.960 I think, for the moment, certainly, at least the near future, 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:19.480 the economic development and the economic strategy of this administration 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:23.160 into a bit of the unknown. And that's to be expected, 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:27.920 I think, because Trump's tariffs have been controversial from the start. 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.680 But what happens if they do decide the court I'm 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.960 speaking of now, what if it does decide to do 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.640 away with the tariffs? What then becomes of the economic 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:42.040 growth in this country that everybody I think wants to see. 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:47.440 Twenty twenty five was an awful year for jobs. According 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.399 to stats just released, about five hundred and eighty four 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:55.000 thousand jobs were created in twenty and twenty five. Two 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.840 million jobs were added in twenty twenty four and twenty 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.960 twenty three under the previous administration, four million in twenty 0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.000 twenty two. Now, a lot of that was because of 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:08.440 the economy coming back from COVID, but the jobs that 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.680 were added in twenty twenty five five hundred and eighty 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:16.280 four thousand seems extraordinarily low. So what's going on here? 0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.680 And why is Wall Street so out of sync with 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:23.319 what's going on? With Main Street? Standing by to join us? 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:28.080 Is Dan Varoni, highly regarded economic strategist, two time author, 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.120 and the number one best selling book on Amazon dot 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.880 com Rethinking Economic Growth? And Dan Varoni, how are you 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.160 on this glorious Saturday? 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.040 I'm terrific, Kenada. 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.600 Although it's raining outside, its sunny inside. 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.759 God bless you for that. It should be sunny for 0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.799 everybody that's still walking around and breathing and sounds like 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.160 both you and me are okay? What happens if the 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.959 Supreme Court, I think as anticipated comes back this week 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:57.840 and says, you know, mister President, these tariffs they're simply illegal, 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.759 and you've exceeded your authority with them. What happens to 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.080 this country at that point economically. 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.280 So, based on what I'm reading and what I'm hearing, 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.440 it sounds like the administrator has a Plan B of 0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:16.000 Plant C and a Plan D, and that Plan B, 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:21.000 Plan C, Plan D will really be delivered on the 0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.880 basis of what the Supreme Court says. The Supreme Court. 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:25.560 Could say the following. 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.680 They could say, mister President, you've exceeded your authority in 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.160 the executive branch and from now on you need to 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:38.040 get the legislative branch to sign off on these. Or 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.720 they could say, mister President, not only have you exceeded 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.040 your authority, but you got to give the money back. 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.160 There could be any number of things. 0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:48.680 They say. 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:53.640 My sense is the reason for the delay can and 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:57.360 I've been thinking this through a lot. They may be 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.800 looking for a way. Back in my days, ass city councilmen. 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:02.879 Back in the day, we. 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:04.719 Used to have a strategy called we got to find 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.440 a way to cut the baby in half right away 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.319 that makes this thing work. It might be that they 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.480 come up with a definition for what tariffs are, what 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:18.560 they should be, and who has the authority to develop 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:23.680 and implement them, And at the same time say, mister President, 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.279 you have in fact exceeded your authority. The tariffs that 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:32.000 were in effect can stay there, or something. 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:32.640 Along those lines. 0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:36.520 But I think they are looking to write an opinion 0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:39.880 that gets them to a middle ground that causes the 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:41.440 least possible disruption. 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.879 Well, it sounds like from what you just said that 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.120 the Supreme Court would then be writing policy, which is, 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:52.080 as you mentioned earlier, a job for the US Congress, 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.719 for the House and for the Senate. That to me 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:56.160 would seem a little dangerous. 0:40:56.760 --> 0:41:00.480 Is that what you're suggesting, Well, not suggesting, the suggesting 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:05.239 that that's what they're probably thinking through right now. You know, 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.960 what should that role be? What is it we should say? 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.799 The third option could be that they just push it 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.319 back to the administration and say you've got to go 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:18.320 to Congress and figure this out. I think they're looking 0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.640 at any number of scenarios, and I think that's why 0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:22.440 there is a delay. 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.560 Well, if they have to get if they rule that 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.600 he has to or we have to give the money back, 0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.200 that's disastrous. I don't care how many ways to slice 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.640 it In an economy that has been at very kind 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:37.400 sluggish since the president, the current administration took over, if 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.880 he's forced to give the money back, that really would 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:42.880 shake Main Street to its core, would it not? 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.279 There had to be a residual effect for something like that. 0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.560 You know, it's interesting because you know, ninety seven percent 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:54.000 of small businesses export products outside the United States. But 0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.680 at the same time, you know, depending on the sector 0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.759 and small business you talk to, it's been brutal for some, 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:07.040 favorable for others, and it's been a dynamic debate. Yes, 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.040 it has caused uncertainty. I can tell you that for 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.640 a fact. I learned that in my book Interviews. But 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.040 what I will tell you Ken is that this is 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:20.680 we are in uncharted territory, and because we're in chartered territory, 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:24.319 no one really knows what the Supreme Court is going 0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.560 to say or what it's going to do. But on 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:32.160 the basis of the Supreme Court majority, my sense is 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:38.160 that they are strict constructionists, meaning that they will stick 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.640 to the letter of the law in the Constitution as 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:46.239 best as possible and will find a way to make 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:51.080 this work work. Meaning cause the least amount of disruption. 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:57.759 Well, we'll see, as a couple of lawyers that I 0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.839 raised once told me the only thing that is more 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:05.200 difficult to handicap than a jury is handicap what a 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.400 judge will do. So yeah, I think that there's I 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.399 think that there's great anticipation on this from a number 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.239 of different levels. Let's take it down to the guy 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:17.759 walking around the street here in Cincinnati. Five hundred and 0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:21.240 eighty five thousand jobs created in twenty five In twenty 0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:25.440 twenty five seems like an inordinately low number. Now we 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.759 know that a lot of that not certainly not approaching 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.640 two million, but a lot of those jobs were eliminated 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.120 by DOGE, and a lot of those were eliminated by 0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.440 other cutbacks inside the federal government. I think unless you 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.600 work for the federal government, there are not a lot 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.040 of people weeping for those jobs going away. But there 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.840 were those jobs that were created in the latter stages 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.680 of the Biden administration, and when he put five hundred 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.759 and eighty five thousand up against that, it looks a 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.920 little weak. Was it all because Biden was rebuilding or 0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.680 enjoying the effects of a rebuilding economy After COVID or 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:02.160 is there something else at work here? 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.279 So here's what I think it comes down to a 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:09.360 couple of things. One is, Biden had a highly regulated 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:13.080 economy and we had regulations that were imposed that cost 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:17.839 one point four trillion dollars. Those are job killers. They 0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:22.400 do not incentivize businesses to hire workers. So small businesses, 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:26.680 who are the big hiring part of the US economy, 0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:31.000 they hire two of three new private sector jobs. Hiring 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:34.439 becomes a disincentive because your cost to comply with. 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:35.800 New regulations are expensive. 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:40.759 Inflation grew to nine point one percent, and again for 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:45.120 small businesses, it was very difficult to make a profit. 0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:52.000 So I think the last administration had policy put policy 0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.520 in place that served as job killers that were just 0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.640 as simple as that. And the third thing I'll say 0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.959 is that the cost of money, the cost capital, grew 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:05.000 to be too expensive. So small businesses who aren't sitting 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.799 around with big piles of cash going out to try 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:11.120 and get loans. It was expensive to get loans. So 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.880 when you put those three things together, that's really what 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:17.040 you're seeing. At the same time, you had major corporate 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.439 layoffs to the tune last year, I think of over 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:24.040 a million and those corporate layoffs. You know what did 0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:27.279 they come from, Well, they came from high cost of 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.759 doing business, uncertainty around the consumer, what was going to 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:34.760 happen with the consumer? And then uncertainty what would happen 0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.000 in the new administration. But I will, But what I 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:39.920 want you to know is that when you look at 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:46.080 those things, productivity in our economy has searched almost five percent. 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.160 That's the highest it's been in almost six years. The 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:49.680 cost of. 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.440 Employing people is lower. 0:45:54.280 --> 0:46:00.560 We're looking at at growth. GDP growth was four point 0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.080 three percent the third quarter, could be over five percent 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:07.279 in the fourth quarter from last year. But the issue is, 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.160 the big issue is is this going to be a 0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:15.960 jobless recovery? And your timing for this conversation is impeccable 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.880 because I spent the entire morning during research. 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:22.640 I'm writing an up that article asking. 0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:27.160 The Federal Reserve to come to their senses and reduce 0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.640 interest rates by another seventy five basis points. 0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:32.880 And here's why. 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:36.000 So they cut them three times total of three to 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:40.200 twenty five basis point last year in the third and 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:44.080 fourth quarter. But here's the bottom line. Bottom line wasn't enough. 0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.279 The cost of capital is still too high. If you 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.160 want the economy to grow, you've got to bring your 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:54.920 tart target federal fund rates down another seventy five basis points. 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:59.360 And they're worried about inflation. But here's what we know 0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:06.480 about inflame. Inflation fell. We heard in November. In December, 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:10.120 from what happened in November two point from three point 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.239 zero to two point seven. The core inflation rate fell 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:17.960 to two point six percent. Those numbers will be updated 0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.240 next week, I think Tuesday or Wednesday, and my senses 0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.319 those numbers will be low again. The issue is the 0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:31.120 Federal Reserve must aggressively pursue its dual mandate. They're better 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:35.759 on inflation now it's about employment, and in order to 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:39.880 get the employment machine going in small business, they must 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.240 reduce interest rates by a notice seventy five basis points. 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:46.799 Well, yeah, I was just going to say, I think 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.279 they will because you're going to get Jerome Palell out 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:49.520 of the. 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:51.560 Way here in the next several months. And you know 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:56.880 his economic philosophies I think or are not this is 0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:58.600 a good word progressive in this sense. 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:03.160 They're not progressive. Just thinks he's using tactics that might 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:05.200 have been in vogue in the seventies and the eighties, 0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.600 and this country and this economy is nowhere close to 0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.880 where it was back then. I think you got to 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.120 get this guy out of the way before we get 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:15.520 to what you want, which is seventy five basis points, 0:48:15.800 --> 0:48:19.600 which is a significant cut, as you well know, Yeah it's. 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.799 A significant cut, but I will tell you it will 0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.200 bring the rates down to like the target rate will 0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:25.840 go from like two and a half to three percent. 0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:27.680 Right now it's about three and a half to three 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:28.480 point seventy five. 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:34.200 And we want small businesses to fully leverage the Big 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.680 Beautiful Law and the first year one hundred percent expensing 0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:41.319 for plants and equipment. If they do, more buildings will 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:45.800 get built, They will hire people, more equipment will be purchased. 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:49.279 As they're purchasing equipment, the people building that equipment will 0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:53.600 have to hire more people. This has a tremendous magnifier effect. 0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:59.160 And honestly, I feel like the Federal Reserve is constraining 0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.279 employment that this time with the rates where they are, 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.160 and as I've been thinking about it since the jobs 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:08.439 numbers came out yesterday, I feel like you're looking at. 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:09.000 The wrong data. 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:13.680 The right data is small business jobs. They were down 0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:17.000 last year. They had a rebound in December of last year, 0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.600 and the way to get the biggest possible bounce in 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.960 jobs is to cut those rates. Small business will lead 0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:25.960 hiring as it has historically. 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:30.319 Yeah, I think the majority of businesses anyway in this 0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:33.160 country are small businesses. It's the business that you pass 0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:36.799 on main Street on your way to the big box centers. Absolutely, 0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:40.440 but there is Dan Varney is our Gas Economic Strategists 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:45.000 now founder and CEO of Potomac Core Potomac Core Strategy 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.359 Planning firm. Here's the one thing, and I don't want 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.640 to harp on these numbers too much, but in December, 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:57.160 most of the gains were in food service, healthcare, social assistance, 0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:01.720 and the losses were in not only detail trade, but manufacturing. 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:04.600 And we got to get back in this country to 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:08.080 making things we had. That's that is the gut of 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:12.160 our economy, and it just seems like that's been a problem, 0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:16.040 not just with this current administration but the last couple 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:17.520 of people that have been in the White House. 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.360 We got to make things again in this country. 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:21.640 So you're absolutely right. 0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:30.239 Manufacturing jobs serve as a like whenever they create a job, 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.120 they create two or three jobs, and the manufacturing job 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:35.960 two or three new jobs are created in the service sector. 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.759 What I like about the Big Beautiful Law, Ken is 0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:46.600 that it has the intention and the pieces to a 0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.560 puzzle that reindustrialize the US economy. 0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:54.000 And that's what that expensing in plants and equipment is 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:54.480 all about. 0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.000 I did a look back on the Reagan tax cuts, 0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:02.360 and I compare them to the Big Beautiful Law, and 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:06.640 I'm telling you that they are far more geared to 0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:11.160 getting the manufacturing economy going a lot faster than even 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:14.120 the Reagan tax cuts did. And the Reagan tax cuts 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:18.880 were amazing, but they were for manufacturing. They came in 0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:21.880 over and they were phased in over three years. These 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.040 come in as a first year investment. So now I'm 0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:26.799 going to tell you why I'm excited about this. So 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.640 I worked for Nut Gingrich a couple of years back 0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.480 in twenty nine and ten. And when I first went 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.600 to work for him, came into my office and I 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.960 had a big whiteboard in front of me, and he said, so, 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.880 we're going to write a tax plan for small business today. 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.239 And I said, and he and I argued the. 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:47.640 Reagan accelerated appreciation versus the one hundred percent expensing, And 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.080 he said to me, Dan, if you really want to 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:54.719 get jobs growing again at a substantial level, it's the 0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:58.840 one hundred percent expensing first year right off. People will invest, 0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:02.080 they will buy, and it will create jobs throughout the economy. 0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:06.080 So when this was included by by the President and 0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:11.960 by Treasury Secretary Bessant, I was overjoyed because I learned 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:15.040 over a decade ago this is a way to really 0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:16.400 grow jobs. 0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:20.000 Well, I share your optimism about twenty twenty six, and 0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:23.640 I hope it reaches down to all levels of the 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.680 various age groups that we have, particularly the younger group 0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.640 gen Z, because I think there it's vital that they 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.279 have a chance to get out of the gate in 0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:33.799 a strong manner. And I think it's vital if you're 0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:38.000 the Trump administration that that happens if you indeed want 0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:41.080 to keep what he has got going now is going 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.120 past when his term is up. But Dan Varney, our 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.600 time is up. Tom mccore dot com is where you 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.439 can find him. And as always, Dan, we we thank 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.439 you for your time. Stay well and you know we'll 0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:52.160 be calling again. 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:54.960 Thank you. Look forward to it. 0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:58.840 Dan Varney, coming up on one twenty four on this 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:06.160 Saturday afternoon Radio seven hundred WLW one thirty seven News 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:10.120 Radio seven hundred WLW. Welcome back, I am ken Brew 0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.760 as we cruise to use Xavier basketball at three thirty 0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:17.080 this afternoon, Joe and Byron all the play by play 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:20.239 and then the tip at four between Xavier and Prominence. 0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:24.880 Xavier and Prominence at the Cinta Center right here on 0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:30.480 seven hundred WYLW. Down the road, Rebecca Downs the Daily Signal. Okay, 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.279 Vivek has made his choice for his running mate. Was 0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:38.640 it a bone to Governor Dwine? And what about David 0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:42.440 Pepper running with Amy Acton? Does that really help the ticket? 0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:46.680 We'll get into that with miss Downs from the Daily 0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:47.560 Signal at. 0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:48.520 Two six today. 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:52.239 Twenty twenty five, it was just a horrible year for 0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.719 the restaurant Cracker Barrel. We all know what happened with 0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.520 Cracker Barrel in twenty twenty five. They brought in some 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.760 woman who thought she was going to turn that restaurant 0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.239 chain on its head, and instead she. 0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:06.440 Took the thing off a cliff. 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:08.600 It crashed and burned, and all of a sudden, the 0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:13.160 changes that Cracker Barrel made, well some of them were 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.920 completely undone. I don't know if that woman still works 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:22.040 for Cracker Barrel or not. Her name is Julie Fel's Messino. 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.279 She and the consulting firm profit were the ones that 0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.359 thought they had all the answers, and it turns out 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.080 they didn't even know what the questions were. 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:35.760 Nevertheless, Cracker Barrel did not get all of the things 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:40.239 undone until this past week. This past week, I said, 0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:42.640 you went to Cracker Barrel this past week. You know 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:43.160 this already. 0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:45.600 But if he did not, two of their great comfort 0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:49.680 food menu items were back on the menu. Hamburger steak 0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:55.840 and eggs in the basket, both comfort food staples of 0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.239 Cracker Barrel, and the dining public loved them. 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:00.920 But the the. 0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:04.400 Brains of Cracker Barrel decided, well, you know, that is 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.920 so old fashioned. I mean, hamburger steak had been on 0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:10.839 the menu since Cracker Barrel opened back in I think 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.480 it was nineteen sixty eight sixty nine. And eggs in 0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:16.120 a basket is basically an egg inside a piece of bread. 0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:18.759 I mean, how difficult can that be to make? And 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:22.719 why was it gone? Along with Grandpa whatever he was? 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:25.719 On the logo and the redesign of all these restaurants 0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:28.879 makes you wonder, makes my next guest wonder just how 0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:31.319 long it's going to take for this chain to get 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:34.359 back on its feet. I mean, the stock traded at 0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:38.680 sixty dollars a share before all those changes last week 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:42.520 had closed it under twenty eight dollars a share. That's 0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:48.200 not exactly driving business. And kJ Blattenbauer knows it, you're saying, Ken, 0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:53.000 who is kJ Blattenbauer. Well, kJ is a public relations expert. 0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:57.520 She has three decades of experience helping customers and companies 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:00.719 interact their stories. And she's got a new book that's 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:03.239 about to come out. We'll talk all about that next, 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.680 but for the moment, kJ Blattenberg, how are you on 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:06.960 this glorious Saturday. 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.719 I'm fantastic. Thank you for having me. 0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:10.919 I'm glad you're here. 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:14.520 Look, the worst thing about a mistake is if you 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:18.240 don't correct it. And Cracker Barrel has gone. I think 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.720 a long way in correcting the mistakes that were made 0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:25.120 by CEO Julie fels Messino. She was working with a 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.040 PR company, I think the name of it was Profit, 0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:29.279 and between the two of them, they came up with 0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:33.359 this logo makeover and restaurant makeover and menu you make over, 0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:37.440 and in doing so, they completely alienated their base and 0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:41.680 it turned into a pr nightmare. Looking back, obviously that 0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:45.440 was a bad move on Cracker Barrel's part to partner 0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:47.480 with these people. But I think you got to give 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:49.960 Cracker Barrel credit because of the things they've done in 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:51.120 the wake of that disaster. 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:52.440 I give them credit. Would you. 0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:54.240 Would? 0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:56.200 I would give I would definitely give them credit. You know, 0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.600 they didn't fail because they changed. They failed because they 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:03.400 changed about clearly protecting the emotional contract that they have 0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:06.400 with their customers. People didn't go to Cracker Barrel for 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:09.040 the novelty of it. They went for familiarity, and when 0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:12.640 you disrupt that without explanation, you don't get innovation points. 0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:16.360 You get backlash. But after receiving backlash, they have at 0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:19.800 least been smart enough to finally course correct. It might 0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:22.400 have taken them longer than customers wanted then the stock 0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:26.440 prices wanted, but they're getting there. They're making the right adjustment. 0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:26.920 You know. 0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:30.320 The problem that I have with that particular episode in 0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:33.160 Cracker Barrel's existence is the warning signs are all over, 0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:35.320 aren't they. I mean, we had new Coke Old Coke 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.800 back in the eighties. We had the bud Light disaster 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.640 with Dylan mulvaney a couple of years ago, and I 0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.280 think when you alienate your base to try and grab 0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:45.240 something that is out there that may or may not 0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:50.040 gravitate towards you, invariably, it's going to lead to, I think, 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:53.400 just devastation, because if the base isn't with you, it 0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:56.000 doesn't matter who you bring in that's new. You've lost 0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:59.000 what made you so special. Why don't companies understand that? 0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:00.520 You know? 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.120 I think companies kind of lose sight. With the new 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:05.880 Coke comparison, You're right on target. Right, Coke tried to 0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:10.320 replace an icon. Cracker Barrel temporarily tried to obscure its identity, 0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:14.800 and you know, without leadership willing to admit it, you 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:18.920 can't replace your identity. Cracker Barrel briefly forgot what business 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:22.200 it was really in. People want to be with brands 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.720 they like, they know, they're familiar with, they trust, and 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:28.080 when you disrupt that emotional contract without clearly protecting it, 0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:31.280 customers are going to drift anywhere else where they feel 0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:32.439 their values are being met. 0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:34.840 Now, I don't know how this works you know far 0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:37.440 better than I. But I would bet that the CEO 0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.120 that was behind the change in Cracker Barrel a year ago, 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:44.959 this Julie Fells Messino character. I would bet she got 0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:47.520 the ear of certain people on the board, but not 0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:51.680 everybody on the board, and so she thought she probably 0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:54.360 had enough of a goal to do what she did 0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:55.400 or her team did. 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:57.720 And I think. 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.840 Dealing with these large corporations, you're dealing with a lot 0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.360 of different people on the board, a lot of personalities, 0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.640 and in a sense, you're dealing with their families, their 0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.640 spouses and whatnot. How tricky a road is that to 0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:12.920 navigate when you know you don't have everybody, but you 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:15.360 just have a few people that are saying, okay, we 0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:17.040 control the purse springs, go ahead. 0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:20.160 Oh, It's incredibly tricky. 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:20.480 Right. 0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.680 First of all, markets hate uncertainty, especially when a legacy 0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:26.360 brand is sending mixed signals, and that's all Cracker Barrel 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:28.880 has been doing for months. I think the bigger issue 0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:32.360 for them is that leadership as a whole altogether. Everyone 0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:35.360 in the room needs to understand brand trust is a 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:37.800 long term asset and it's not something that you can 0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:40.760 experiment with lately, which is what they have tried to do. 0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.040 The takeaway for companies big and small everywhere, I think 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.240 is simple, as a result of watching Cracker Barrel, innovation 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:51.400 doesn't mean abandoning what made you beloved. The smartest brands 0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:54.320 are going to evolve around their core identity, not away 0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:56.720 from it. When you protect what you're known for, when 0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:59.320 you protect what people trust in you, customers are going 0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:01.280 to follow you for no matter where you go. 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:04.000 Yeah, have you ever been to a cracker barrel? Have 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:04.920 you ever eaten a one. 1:00:05.640 --> 1:00:07.000 All the time? All the time. 1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:09.680 I mean the food is not great. I think you 1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:12.480 go for the atmosphere and the comfort, and you go 1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:15.320 there because you can. If you if you have kids, 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:17.680 or if you got mom or dad or whatever, you 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:20.000 can you can go there and get a decent meal 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:24.000 for a really affordable price. And things like Hamburger steak 1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:26.680 which came back on the menu this week, and eggs 1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:29.080 in the basket came back on the menu. None of 1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:31.640 that stuff is what I would call food that's going 1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:33.960 to make it happy. But it's comfort food, and I 1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:37.080 think I think they just completely upended the comfort of 1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.560 their clients. So yeah, I could see where this would 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.439 would be a major problem, and they lost a hell 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:44.920 of a lot of money in doing it. I mean, 1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:47.880 my gosh, can you imagine working for a company and 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:50.160 you go to somebody on the board and say, hey, 1:00:50.200 --> 1:00:53.520 you know that my idea didn't didn't go so well, 1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:56.880 and you know we're out seven billion dollars. I mean, 1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.240 what reaction would you expect if you had to go 1:00:59.320 --> 1:01:00.200 tell somebody. 1:00:59.920 --> 1:01:03.160 Like that, Well, they wouldn't let me in the building. 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:05.600 I don't think that. I don't think i'd be employed. 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:07.400 I don't think i'd be employed there any longer. 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:11.200 Well, let's say you do contract. This is hypothetical. Let's 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:15.840 say your company is Heresay PR Right, I love that name. 1:01:15.880 --> 1:01:19.040 Here's a PR I loved it. So let's say that 1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:21.919 Cracker Barrel came to you a year and a half, 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:24.920 two years ago, and I said, look, we feel that 1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:27.600 we've gotten kind of stale. Our growth isn't where it 1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:31.760 should be. We're afraid we may lose complete traction inside 1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:33.880 the food industry if we don't do a few things 1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:37.800 to you know, freshen up our approach. You've eaten there, 1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:40.240 so your customer, you know what those restaurants are like. 1:01:40.280 --> 1:01:42.640 What would you have said to somebody that came to 1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:44.960 you from that company, if indeed they came to you 1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:46.320 and contracted. 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.479 With you, well, I think the first thing is looking 1:01:48.480 --> 1:01:50.880 at who the customers are. I would encourage them to 1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:53.880 have gotten with customers from the beginning, done some focus groups, 1:01:54.120 --> 1:01:57.960 done more research, because strong brands don't ignore feedback when 1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:01.440 it's loud, consistent, and values based, and Cracker Barrel has 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:04.880 that customer base. Their voices are angry and we're hearing 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:07.920 about it because the customers are mad, they're moving away 1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:10.760 from why they trusted Cracker Barrel, and so I think 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:12.760 the brand protection they should have started with from the 1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:15.240 beginning is Okay, we need to evolve. Here's the ways 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:17.720 we need to evolve in these areas. Let's talk to 1:02:17.800 --> 1:02:20.680 our customers about the changes we can make or we 1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:24.000 shouldn't be making in order to move ourselves forward and 1:02:24.080 --> 1:02:26.479 the best way possible for our brand, but also for 1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:29.040 the people who make our brand possible. Pay our bills 1:02:29.040 --> 1:02:29.760 and keep the lights on. 1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:32.919 Well, that's empowerment, right, You're empowering the people that use 1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:36.120 your restaurant. I think a lot of times these places think, well, 1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:40.240 it's our menu, it's my money. I've invested into this business, 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:42.200 and by god, you're going to get what I serve you. 1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:44.960 But all it takes is just a little time on 1:02:45.120 --> 1:02:47.600 task and a little bit of that research. They would 1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:50.400 have been better if they had their store manager just 1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:52.560 go I don't how many stores they have, but the 1:02:52.600 --> 1:02:55.000 store manager in each one of their stores just work 1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:58.160 the room and then report back to whomever he reports 1:02:58.200 --> 1:03:01.080 back to. And I'm sure that person re spports back corporate. 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:03.280 But just work the room a little bit in these 1:03:03.280 --> 1:03:06.200 places and maybe you will get a better idea of 1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:08.000 where you should take your business. I think a lot 1:03:08.040 --> 1:03:10.520 of it is just time on task. Basically, what about you? 1:03:11.520 --> 1:03:14.280 I have to agree with you. I think it also 1:03:14.320 --> 1:03:17.600 has created a discussion around rebranding for a company, and 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:19.880 I think it's important to note that rebrands aren't risky 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:24.840 by default. Rebrands that ignore emotional loyalty like Cracker Barrel did. Now, 1:03:24.880 --> 1:03:27.800 that is the problem. The rebrand for Cracker Barrel didn't 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:31.320 fail because people hate change. It failed because the brand 1:03:31.360 --> 1:03:34.200 forgot who the change is for the people. And so 1:03:34.560 --> 1:03:37.360 you've built your you built your business for a certain 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:40.440 customer base, or you've attracted a certain customer base and 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:43.439 any change you make moving forward, you have to take 1:03:43.560 --> 1:03:46.080 those people and their emotional stake in your brand in 1:03:46.120 --> 1:03:48.760 your company when you adapt moving forward. 1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:51.520 But like Coke, and like Dylan Molvaney and l like 1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:54.280 Cracker Barrel, you know there's going to be somebody at 1:03:54.280 --> 1:03:59.160 a corporate office that does something stupid that affects. 1:03:59.240 --> 1:04:02.360 Their restaurant or whatever. I mean, it's just it's almost 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:04.919 built into our economy. Right, somebody's going to do something 1:04:04.960 --> 1:04:06.880 stupid in a year or two. Right, maybe then they'll 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:07.640 call here, say. 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:11.880 Pr here's helping, and then they can avoid any problem. 1:04:11.960 --> 1:04:14.240 Yeah, there you go. What's your book all about, Pitchworthy, 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:14.840 Tell me about that. 1:04:15.840 --> 1:04:19.240 My book is for small business owners and solopreneurs who 1:04:19.280 --> 1:04:21.760 are looking to use public relations to help move their 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:25.040 business forward. It gives them the basic steps and tips 1:04:25.040 --> 1:04:27.160 that they can do to put themselves out there and 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:29.800 get their brand known without paying a high cost for 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:32.480 a public a publicist or a public relations agency. 1:04:32.560 --> 1:04:34.560 Do you believe in advertising? I mean, I know a 1:04:34.600 --> 1:04:37.400 lot of people right now, or they'll open a place 1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:39.720 I could name you five here in the greater Cincinnati area. 1:04:39.720 --> 1:04:41.760 In the last year they open, they think, well, I'm 1:04:41.800 --> 1:04:44.440 on Facebook, and I've got a website and all this, 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:47.440 and I'm thinking to myself, well, maybe you need to, 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:49.640 you know, just go into a bigger tent than all 1:04:49.640 --> 1:04:49.880 of that. 1:04:49.920 --> 1:04:51.960 But so do you. Are you someone who believes in 1:04:52.000 --> 1:04:53.160 the power of advertising? 1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:54.120 Oh? 1:04:54.160 --> 1:04:56.080 I believe in the power of advertising, and I love 1:04:56.120 --> 1:04:59.440 the power of public relations because it's free advertising. I 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:02.000 think when you create a business, you open a business. Yes, 1:05:02.080 --> 1:05:04.440 you build the website, but just because you build it, 1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:07.920 it doesn't mean they'll come. I think advertising, marketing, public relations, 1:05:07.920 --> 1:05:09.600 it has to be front of funnel. No one can 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:12.600 fund you, hire you, or visit your establishment if they 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:13.800 don't know you exist, right. 1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:16.800 Exactly, particularly if you're in the service industry, and it 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:20.480 may be something else for different businesses. Business to business 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:23.400 certainly is different. But I often wondered about that because 1:05:23.400 --> 1:05:26.280 I think a lot of businesses fail. And I know 1:05:26.280 --> 1:05:27.960 we're off on a tangent here, just a little bit 1:05:27.960 --> 1:05:29.760 from cracker barrel, but I think a lot of businesses 1:05:29.760 --> 1:05:33.080 fail simply because they don't want to spend the money 1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:36.040 to get the word out. The person that owns the 1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:38.880 company or the business will throw everything into the business 1:05:39.160 --> 1:05:42.160 and then wonder why nobody shows up, and I guess 1:05:42.200 --> 1:05:44.360 this is in your book. There's so many easy ways 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:47.600 to just get your product your service in front of people. 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:50.400 Got to be creative, but I think eventually you got 1:05:50.440 --> 1:05:52.640 to tell more people about it than just the people 1:05:52.640 --> 1:05:55.200 that are already in the tent. But that's maybe that's 1:05:55.200 --> 1:05:58.920 why while I never considered PR, maybe I should have 1:05:58.960 --> 1:06:00.880 done that. It might have been a more stable business. 1:06:01.040 --> 1:06:04.560 Who knows, who knows? All right, how do people find 1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:09.520 your business? HERESAYPR? I'm guessing it's heresapr dot com. And 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:11.720 when they go there, what do they find? Besides I'm 1:06:11.720 --> 1:06:13.240 sure a real nice picture of view and. 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:17.760 Testimonials, they're going to find EASYPR tip. They're going to 1:06:17.760 --> 1:06:19.840 find a way to grab my book. But they're also 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:22.480 going to learn simple and free steps that they can 1:06:22.600 --> 1:06:24.800 use to promote their business, product or service. 1:06:25.080 --> 1:06:27.880 Simple and free. I like that. Yeah, I like that 1:06:28.240 --> 1:06:28.600 all right. 1:06:28.640 --> 1:06:30.600 So what's your outlook for Cracker Barrel in the next 1:06:30.640 --> 1:06:32.480 six to nine months. Are they back completely on their 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:33.960 feed or do you think it's still going to be 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:35.000 a little bit of a struggle. 1:06:35.920 --> 1:06:37.120 I think it's going to be a little bit of 1:06:37.120 --> 1:06:38.959 a struggle for them, But I think they're moving things 1:06:39.000 --> 1:06:41.720 forward in the right way. They're finally starting to listen 1:06:41.800 --> 1:06:44.120 to people, and I think they're finally starting to see 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:47.960 a few customers come back around when they start moving forward, 1:06:48.040 --> 1:06:50.520 bringing back what people are familiar with and they trust, 1:06:50.880 --> 1:06:54.200 and customers see that rolling out their course correcting is 1:06:54.240 --> 1:06:56.280 going to be They're going to be perfectly fine. 1:06:56.360 --> 1:06:58.720 Okay, that's good because come Monday, I'm going to go 1:06:58.760 --> 1:07:01.360 to Cracker Bureau for that meal over two for nineteen 1:07:01.440 --> 1:07:02.000 ninety nine. 1:07:02.440 --> 1:07:03.480 That sounds like a deal. 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:08.840 kJ Blatinbauer PR Expert Pitchworthy is her book. It will 1:07:08.840 --> 1:07:12.800 be released soon. You can find her at hearsaypr dot com. Okay, kJ, 1:07:13.000 --> 1:07:14.960 thanks for your time, stay well and hopefully we can 1:07:15.000 --> 1:07:15.640 do this again. 1:07:16.520 --> 1:07:16.920 Thank you. 1:07:17.280 --> 1:07:17.520 Yeah. 1:07:18.480 --> 1:07:23.800 Seven hundred million dollars is what the company Cracker Barrel 1:07:24.000 --> 1:07:27.440 spent on the rebrand that lasted all to two weeks. 1:07:27.680 --> 1:07:33.280 Seven hundred million dollars. But do a deeper dive. We 1:07:33.320 --> 1:07:36.360 don't know how much money it actually cost Cracker Barrel 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:43.240 to emerge from that terrible business decision, but there are 1:07:43.320 --> 1:07:48.680 reports that say they suffered significant losses two hundred and 1:07:48.920 --> 1:07:53.320 fifty million dollars in stock value it's two hundred and 1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:56.240 fifty million dollars on top of the seven hundred million 1:07:56.280 --> 1:08:01.160 it's spent. So this this pr whiz that came in 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:05.800 the CEO and this group that she hired profit for 1:08:05.840 --> 1:08:12.600 the rebrand Julie Fells Messino cost her company nine hundred 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:20.439 and fifty almost one billion dollars. We'll see if you're that, 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:23.080 We'll see if that particular Jim has passed on to 1:08:23.160 --> 1:08:28.000 you the consumer. My guess is eventually it will be. 1:08:28.880 --> 1:08:31.360 We're at one fifty three on this Saturday afternoon, still 1:08:31.400 --> 1:08:34.800 to come. The Ohio Governor's race is beginning to heat up, 1:08:34.920 --> 1:08:37.639 even though we're still many months away from it. How 1:08:37.760 --> 1:08:42.599 much does David Pepper help Amy acton? And was the 1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:47.280 only reason that Mike de Wine supports now Viveke Ramaswami 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:52.000 is because of whom Vivek has chosen for his running mate. 1:08:52.360 --> 1:08:54.840 Rebecca Downs from the Daily Signal will join us for 1:08:54.880 --> 1:08:58.120 that and then down the road. One man that has 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:03.679 been with Elvis Presley, well, nobody's nobody's with Elvis right now. 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:06.439 Unless you're in the ground. But one man who was 1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:10.840 with Elvis Presley for a long long time is in 1:09:10.880 --> 1:09:15.760 town tonight at the Elvis Tribute Spectaculars. We'll talk to 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:18.439 him and much more as we count down to Xavier 1:09:18.479 --> 1:09:21.360 basketball on seven hundred w l W. 1:09:28.200 --> 1:09:32.400 Now your host Ken Brew on News Radio seven hundred 1:09:32.560 --> 1:09:35.080 WLW and out Amon We go right. 1:09:35.040 --> 1:09:38.560 Till Xavior basketball today at three thirty Savior against Providence 1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:42.640 at the Sintas Center. All the play by play with 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:46.120 Byron and Joe right here on seven hundred WLWD. Well, 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:50.960 this week, the Republican nominee for the governorship of Ohio, 1:09:51.160 --> 1:09:55.519 Vivek Ramaswami, made his choice for his running mate, and 1:09:55.680 --> 1:10:00.280 he selected Senate President Rob McCauley as his for a 1:10:00.360 --> 1:10:05.800 lieutenant governor. I never heard of him either, and that's 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:09.240 probably more on me than anyone else. But as I 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:13.280 travel around Ohio, I'm sure you have to, it's amazing 1:10:13.280 --> 1:10:16.920 to me how people who are not from Southwest Ohio 1:10:16.960 --> 1:10:20.439 pay attention to state politics, and we here in the 1:10:20.479 --> 1:10:24.040 great state of Cincinnati, both you and me and also 1:10:24.160 --> 1:10:28.519 the media here, pay anything but close attention to what 1:10:28.640 --> 1:10:31.439 goes on in the state capitol. It's almost like you 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:36.240 really have to search for state politic news in the 1:10:36.240 --> 1:10:39.519 Inquirer or the local television stations, And I think it's 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:42.200 largely reflected on the fact that we look at Columbus, 1:10:42.240 --> 1:10:45.519 whether we're on one side of the political argument or 1:10:45.560 --> 1:10:47.840 the other, with a little bit of a jaundiced eye, 1:10:48.040 --> 1:10:50.080 and so we don't pay attention to it unless some 1:10:50.160 --> 1:10:53.680 scandal breaks out or there's a controversial bill, and then 1:10:53.720 --> 1:10:55.840 we want to know who voted for it. And even 1:10:55.880 --> 1:10:58.480 if we do that, we're surprised as to who represents 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:02.719 us and who voted for it. But anyway, it's Senate 1:11:02.760 --> 1:11:06.840 President Rob McCauley, who's been around Ohio politics for a 1:11:06.880 --> 1:11:12.760 long time. He seems to be a well liked guy 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:17.760 inside the GOP. I view this as a. 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:21.280 Guy that's with the I guess the old line GOP, 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:25.880 a guy that would be viewed as, you know, one 1:11:25.880 --> 1:11:27.480 of the boys in Columbus. 1:11:28.120 --> 1:11:30.120 And I view it as a bone that was thrown 1:11:30.160 --> 1:11:35.960 to Mike DeWine. Mike DeWine after this endorsed Vake Ramaswami. 1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:38.800 Mike Dwine has always said I'm going to support the 1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:44.280 GOP candidate, except he wasn't all that closed is supporting 1:11:44.400 --> 1:11:49.240 the vike Ramaswami until this. So this obviously was a 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:54.360 bone to the wine, and the Republicans want unity in 1:11:54.479 --> 1:11:57.719 this state. The Republicans want unity everywhere, but they don't 1:11:58.200 --> 1:12:01.840 walk in lockstep like the Dems do. But this is 1:12:01.920 --> 1:12:05.040 one of those deals where it looks like, Okay, I'll 1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:07.160 throw the bone to the governor. We'll get the governor 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:10.120 on board, and then everybody can sing Kumbaya right up 1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:11.719 till election night this November. 1:12:12.400 --> 1:12:16.240 Meanwhile, Amy Acton, the COVID queen. 1:12:16.320 --> 1:12:19.600 You remember her from twenty twenty and her role in 1:12:19.680 --> 1:12:23.320 shutting things down, and it really and truly got to 1:12:23.400 --> 1:12:25.880 a point where she had to leave because nobody could 1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:29.400 stand her. Now she's the dominee of the Democrat Party, 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:32.080 or appears to be the nominee of the Democrat Party, 1:12:33.000 --> 1:12:37.519 and she selected David Pepper to run with her this year. 1:12:37.640 --> 1:12:39.680 David Pepper a name of great note here in the 1:12:39.720 --> 1:12:43.960 greater Cincinnati area. He seems to get swatted down a 1:12:44.040 --> 1:12:48.880 lot in statewide elections. He was successful locally here with 1:12:49.120 --> 1:12:53.679 local politics, son of the former CEO of Procter and Gamble. 1:12:53.760 --> 1:12:55.360 But the fact of the matter is he's on the 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:59.040 ticket now with Amy Acton. So how much does how 1:12:59.120 --> 1:13:02.240 much does any this matter? This far out an endorsement 1:13:02.360 --> 1:13:04.800 by the sitting governor who's not very popular and on 1:13:04.920 --> 1:13:08.040 his way out, and the son of someone who was 1:13:08.120 --> 1:13:11.560 a big time, big city, big deal with Procter and 1:13:11.640 --> 1:13:15.400 Gamble helping the top of the ticket standing by the 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:18.960 way in as someone who's wondering as well. Rebecca Downs 1:13:19.040 --> 1:13:22.160 writes and writes very well about Ohio politics for The 1:13:22.240 --> 1:13:24.560 Daily Signal, and I wanted to her take on this 1:13:25.080 --> 1:13:27.759 as we're still a number of months out, but still 1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:31.080 things are beginning to come into focus for who is 1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:34.320 going to succeed the Wine as governor here in the 1:13:34.360 --> 1:13:37.240 state of Ohio. So, Rebecca Downs, how are you on 1:13:37.280 --> 1:13:38.400 this glorious Saturday. 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:41.920 I'm doing all right, Thanks so much for having me. 1:13:42.040 --> 1:13:44.479 Now, I'm glad you're back here because it's been swirling 1:13:44.520 --> 1:13:47.720 politically here in the great state of Ohio. And so 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:50.840 let's start at the top. But Viake Ramaswamy makes his 1:13:51.000 --> 1:13:55.080 choice for his lieutenant governor. It's Senate President Rob McCauley. 1:13:55.520 --> 1:13:58.599 So that's the ticket, Ramaswami and McCauley. It almost has 1:13:58.680 --> 1:14:01.800 a little alliteration going there. What do you ask, what 1:14:01.920 --> 1:14:04.519 do we know about Rob McCauley, Because quite Frankly, the 1:14:04.560 --> 1:14:08.080 media down here doesn't cover Ohio's state politics all that well. 1:14:09.520 --> 1:14:13.280 So I actually made the prediction that Ramasami was going 1:14:13.360 --> 1:14:18.640 to pick Rob McCauley, especially because in part because I was, 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:21.080 I think he was the race the way there were 1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:22.120 going to be other races. 1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:27.240 Other potential picks are running for other slots. But he 1:14:27.439 --> 1:14:29.720 seems to be really well liked. 1:14:30.360 --> 1:14:35.760 He's a trusted conservatives but also an agreeable person in this. 1:14:35.880 --> 1:14:38.400 Instead of people like him, they seem to get along 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:42.960 with him. He's young, but he's experienced. He also brings 1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:49.680 the Ramasami campaign, and there's supporters making the case experience 1:14:50.320 --> 1:14:52.759 in the in the sense that Ramaswami doesn't. 1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:55.800 You know, Ramaswammi is open that he is not a politician. 1:14:56.840 --> 1:14:58.840 No, I mean, that was the selling point for him 1:14:58.880 --> 1:15:00.720 all along, even in the pres as an enter race 1:15:00.800 --> 1:15:03.720 and whatnot. It seems to me, though, you know, Mike 1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:05.880 de Wine had been sitting on the sidelines on this. 1:15:06.080 --> 1:15:09.799 He said he would eventually you know, support the GOP nominee, 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:13.440 but he was kind of lukewarm in my opinion to Ramaswami. 1:15:13.800 --> 1:15:16.680 So is this, I guess, a deference a little bit 1:15:16.720 --> 1:15:20.400 of difference to Dwine from Ramaswami when he selects Rob McCauley. 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:24.120 McCauley is, you know, a very politically active and has 1:15:24.200 --> 1:15:26.320 been in this state for a while, would seem to 1:15:26.400 --> 1:15:29.400 be an ally of the wine. So did Ramaswami do 1:15:29.520 --> 1:15:30.880 this to get the wine's blessing? 1:15:32.280 --> 1:15:35.600 I think you could absolutely make that argument. But of 1:15:35.720 --> 1:15:38.200 course I also think you could say, you know, two 1:15:38.240 --> 1:15:38.680 things can. 1:15:38.680 --> 1:15:41.720 Mature at once, that he does that he gets an 1:15:41.880 --> 1:15:46.599 endorsement more willingly, more convincingly from Mike de Wine while 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:50.840 not sacrificing what he wants in a running name. What 1:15:51.120 --> 1:15:54.720 you know, Republican voters, well, we'll see if stuff what 1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:56.599 they want, you know, when they go to the polls, 1:15:56.680 --> 1:16:00.559 and I may Republicans actually vote for Ramaswami and whatnot. 1:16:01.120 --> 1:16:04.080 So I think you could absolutely make that case, including 1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:07.040 you know, I think that based on my own understanding 1:16:07.040 --> 1:16:10.680 of Ohio politics, but also you know, people people talk 1:16:10.720 --> 1:16:11.400 about these things. 1:16:11.560 --> 1:16:13.719 Sure, I mean a lot of the old guard GOP 1:16:13.920 --> 1:16:16.600 in the state still like Mike Dwine. I think some 1:16:16.760 --> 1:16:21.519 of the Neuvo Republicans, you know, the Maga crowd, I 1:16:21.600 --> 1:16:23.799 don't think they care for Dwine all that much. 1:16:23.800 --> 1:16:26.439 And quite frankly, that not a polite way of putting it. 1:16:26.720 --> 1:16:29.479 Yeah, I mean, I just I just don't since he 1:16:29.600 --> 1:16:33.400 has the political clout inside the GOP that he once had, 1:16:33.560 --> 1:16:36.320 I'm wondering what the endorsement of the wine really means 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:36.840 in this race. 1:16:36.920 --> 1:16:37.719 Does it mean anything? 1:16:39.400 --> 1:16:42.240 I think it means I think it would almost mean 1:16:42.400 --> 1:16:43.599 more if. 1:16:43.479 --> 1:16:48.200 He completely quiet on it, or you know, he went 1:16:48.280 --> 1:16:53.439 and endorsed any action. I think the left and their allies, 1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:55.920 including in the mainstream media, would. 1:16:55.840 --> 1:16:57.720 Make a ton out of it. And how could they not, 1:16:58.000 --> 1:16:58.879 you know, that would. 1:16:58.720 --> 1:17:02.040 Be pretty awkward. You know, Oh, the Republican governor is 1:17:02.160 --> 1:17:05.320 not endorsing his heir apparents. I think that would I 1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:07.760 think so. I think it shows even yet, even if 1:17:07.800 --> 1:17:11.160 it means nothing, even if you know, like, oh, the 1:17:11.240 --> 1:17:13.240 Republican endorsed the Republican. 1:17:12.800 --> 1:17:13.360 Well there you go. 1:17:13.560 --> 1:17:17.880 At least it keeps that narrative out that oh dyke, 1:17:18.040 --> 1:17:22.719 you know, Republicans are at united, especially because speaking of unity, 1:17:23.439 --> 1:17:26.200 that is the main scene that I've been hearing from 1:17:26.360 --> 1:17:30.720 Ohio Republican Party Chairman Alex Chantefalo I went to an 1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:34.800 event in September in Columbus where the bag. Gramaswammi and 1:17:35.400 --> 1:17:39.080 Senator John Houston were endorsing each other, and the chairman 1:17:39.120 --> 1:17:41.760 spoke before and he focused on unity and how much 1:17:41.880 --> 1:17:45.800 the Ohio Republican Party is behind Ramaswami. 1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:49.720 Yeah, I thought it was wise for DeWine. Look, there's 1:17:49.760 --> 1:17:52.280 one thing that every politician has, and that's an ego. 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:53.840 Every politician has. 1:17:53.760 --> 1:17:56.400 One, and maybe in the back of the politics, Yeah, 1:17:56.520 --> 1:17:59.080 maybe the back of DeWine's mind that there's a place 1:17:59.120 --> 1:18:01.799 for him in party politics, maybe even in a grander 1:18:01.880 --> 1:18:03.160 stage than in Ohio. 1:18:03.680 --> 1:18:06.200 I doubt it, but maybe that's that's part of it. 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:08.960 He's playing this much better than John Kasch. 1:18:09.640 --> 1:18:12.120 I think that guy's completely I was thinking of. 1:18:12.360 --> 1:18:16.000 Yeah, he's completely alienated himself from the GOP and kind 1:18:16.040 --> 1:18:18.120 of kind of looks foolish with some of the stuff 1:18:18.160 --> 1:18:21.160 he's been doing. So I think I think that this 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:24.400 was probably a wise political move on de Wine's part. 1:18:24.560 --> 1:18:27.320 If he had endorsed Amy Acton, he'd have been dead 1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.200 in the water because he would never be embraced by Democrats. 1:18:30.439 --> 1:18:32.719 Maybe he'd be embraced, as you said, by the media 1:18:33.200 --> 1:18:36.360 for a hard minute, but by Democrats, he would never 1:18:36.479 --> 1:18:38.719 be embraced and he'd be ostracized from the GOP. 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:42.240 Yeah, and that's exactly what John Keitha did. I'm sure 1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:45.280 you and your listeners recall he was invited. I think 1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:49.320 he did speak at the twenty twenty DNC. But then 1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:52.639 Democrat voters were like, well, you don't like John Keisick. 1:18:52.760 --> 1:18:55.320 He's a Republican. Why are you inviting this guy? So 1:18:56.120 --> 1:18:57.120 a good example. 1:18:57.600 --> 1:19:00.960 Yeah, I mean these urinating contests that that the old 1:19:01.120 --> 1:19:04.479 Reagan Republicans think that they've got with MAGA. It's like, 1:19:04.720 --> 1:19:08.479 you know, Ronald Reagan, he was a great president. He 1:19:08.600 --> 1:19:10.400 might have been the greatest president of my time. I 1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:12.439 don't know for everything that he achieved, but he's not 1:19:12.520 --> 1:19:14.840 coming back and I don't think that's coming back to 1:19:14.920 --> 1:19:16.439 that party anytime soon, do you. 1:19:18.160 --> 1:19:18.559 I don't. 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:21.519 I'm I'm tickled to hear how you think he's the 1:19:21.680 --> 1:19:24.360 greatest president because I only wish I lived under Reagan. 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:27.120 But yes, you're in a different era. You're in a 1:19:27.240 --> 1:19:30.400 completely different era. We you know, for better or worse, it's. 1:19:30.320 --> 1:19:33.840 The drump era now, right, And to cling onto the 1:19:33.960 --> 1:19:36.240 past when no chance of it coming back is just 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:38.120 to me, it's just it's unrealistic. 1:19:38.240 --> 1:19:42.439 It's like, it's right, it's like saying the Beatles are 1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:43.960 going to start touring next year. 1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:48.320 It's they're not. They're not coming back. Let's talk about 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:51.800 the other side of this ticket. Amy Acton and David Pepper. 1:19:51.920 --> 1:19:54.080 David Pepper is a well known Cincinnati and he's been 1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:57.040 on city council. His dad was the CEO of P 1:19:57.240 --> 1:19:59.400 and G. I mean, it's a it's a large name 1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:04.719 in Democrat politics. How much does David Pepper, in your opinion, 1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:05.879 help Amy act. 1:20:07.200 --> 1:20:10.840 Oh I don't know if he will will help Amy 1:20:10.880 --> 1:20:16.000 action that much given his electoral history in other races. 1:20:16.080 --> 1:20:19.240 Although a local Democrat, I'm friends, but there are a 1:20:19.280 --> 1:20:20.799 few of them in my family. 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:24.080 Pointed out that he yep, oh, yeah. 1:20:24.600 --> 1:20:28.519 He pointed out that he was a former DNC chair 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:31.160 And even if you're like, well, that record isn't that 1:20:31.360 --> 1:20:35.760 great when for Ohio, he does have the connection as 1:20:35.800 --> 1:20:37.599 a former party chairman. 1:20:38.040 --> 1:20:41.519 So my thinking is that well helped. But at the 1:20:41.600 --> 1:20:46.040 same time, I was looking at his electoral history in 1:20:46.120 --> 1:20:46.799 the same way. 1:20:46.680 --> 1:20:49.200 I was actually looking at Jim wall Who's electoral history 1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:51.920 and how he got less and less vote each time 1:20:52.000 --> 1:20:52.960 he ran for governor. 1:20:53.439 --> 1:20:54.840 But I don't. 1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:57.920 I don't know if she could have picked a stronger 1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:01.880 picking up barbeade from me to giv iiodemocrats advice. I 1:21:02.120 --> 1:21:04.439 just that really surprised me that that would be the 1:21:04.520 --> 1:21:08.639 pick she went with. And I have seen Republicans Ohio 1:21:08.760 --> 1:21:12.439 Republicans just mocking him from you know here to High 1:21:12.479 --> 1:21:16.719 Heaven David Pepper and Amy action for picking David Pepper. 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:20.320 Yeah, I mean, well, he got his clock cleaned by DeWine. 1:21:20.360 --> 1:21:23.479 I think it was in twenty fourteen for the uh 1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:27.439 any attorney general, and then the host handled him fairly 1:21:27.520 --> 1:21:30.559 well for that open seat when he ran for an auditor. 1:21:31.160 --> 1:21:33.679 But he was he was very active and successful around 1:21:33.720 --> 1:21:37.720 here in local politics. Ran for mayor, did not get 1:21:38.160 --> 1:21:40.759 did not get elected mayor. Mark Mallory won that election 1:21:40.920 --> 1:21:43.840 back in five. I'm just wondering about the strength of 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:47.679 that ticket. She her political accuting, Yeah, their political accume 1:21:47.840 --> 1:21:52.320 basically began with when DeWine all but abdicated all of 1:21:52.360 --> 1:21:56.840 the responsibility to her during COVID, and I think she 1:21:57.000 --> 1:22:00.160 alienated most of the state. Now she's back as the 1:22:00.240 --> 1:22:04.160 Democrat Darling. I just I can't what would her base 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:07.799 be other than nobody wants the Vake Ramaswami as governor. 1:22:07.840 --> 1:22:09.360 What what would her base be? 1:22:10.880 --> 1:22:14.599 That's a good question, you know, certainly if you don't want, well, 1:22:14.680 --> 1:22:16.320 I don't want the Dake Grandma Swamy. 1:22:16.400 --> 1:22:19.240 That crowd my other choice to ding the acting. 1:22:20.160 --> 1:22:23.479 She seems like a nice lady in all honesty. Maybe 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:27.200 somebody's like, I really don't like Republicans. I don't know 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:29.960 much about any action, but she's not the Dake Grandma 1:22:30.040 --> 1:22:33.559 Swamy or you know, I trust her as a doctor. 1:22:34.000 --> 1:22:36.920 I don't want to say that it would be uninformed 1:22:37.000 --> 1:22:39.479 people voting for her, but but you know what I mean, 1:22:39.520 --> 1:22:43.679 people who might not be so in the news about Okay, 1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:46.759 she had her emergency power stripped away, which is actually 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:49.920 what Rob McCauley talked about on Wednesday night when he 1:22:50.120 --> 1:22:51.480 just estaped for that announcement. 1:22:51.960 --> 1:22:55.680 He basically made his entire the premise of what he. 1:22:55.840 --> 1:23:01.680 Was saying about how she was a quitter is not so, 1:23:02.000 --> 1:23:03.960 you know, I thought that was a very interesting take 1:23:04.040 --> 1:23:04.559 on his part. 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:07.280 Right, could be a theme throughout the campaign. We're chatting 1:23:07.320 --> 1:23:11.280 with Rebecca Downs the Daily Signal. We're talking about Ohio politics. 1:23:11.720 --> 1:23:17.040 You and I briefly touched on the Senate race John Houstead, 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:20.360 who I'm sure is well known inside the GOP in Ohio. 1:23:20.880 --> 1:23:23.000 Nobody seems to know who the hell he is outside that. 1:23:23.120 --> 1:23:25.439 I think the survey that we talked about forty percent 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:27.960 of this the state does you know who he is? 1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:31.840 And so here he is in Washington, d C. Filling 1:23:31.880 --> 1:23:35.200 out the term of JD Vance and back in not 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:38.360 a shame to cry, is shared Brown, and he's running 1:23:38.400 --> 1:23:43.360 against Houston. Let's just an update on that race. Brown 1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:46.040 was you know, he's been around as long as it 1:23:46.120 --> 1:23:51.599 seems like the capital has existed, and it was roundly 1:23:51.760 --> 1:23:55.320 defeated the last time out. What does he have in 1:23:55.520 --> 1:23:58.280 his favor going up against John Houston? 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:00.799 Shared? 1:24:00.880 --> 1:24:03.720 Brown is a well known name in Ohio politics also 1:24:03.800 --> 1:24:06.240 outside of Ohio, So you know that could help with 1:24:06.680 --> 1:24:09.240 out of state donations, which I always have a take 1:24:09.320 --> 1:24:11.680 on is like, Okay, these people can give money, but 1:24:11.800 --> 1:24:14.320 they can't actually vote here in Ohio. So let's see 1:24:14.360 --> 1:24:19.120 how that translates. He John Hoaston would say to that 1:24:19.320 --> 1:24:21.840 in response to, oh, he's well known, is John Houston 1:24:21.880 --> 1:24:25.040 said out a pre press conference I was at last month, Well, 1:24:25.439 --> 1:24:27.360 you know along the lines of well, he doesn't really 1:24:27.479 --> 1:24:31.000 he John Houston doesn't really want to be associated with 1:24:31.280 --> 1:24:33.280 oh He's well known in the sunset. 1:24:33.360 --> 1:24:38.759 People really don't like Washington, DC politics. And John Houston 1:24:38.840 --> 1:24:40.680 is an Ohio guy. He told me right, He's calls 1:24:40.720 --> 1:24:42.599 all those statewide roles. 1:24:43.200 --> 1:24:47.799 So he has the support of I mean, Chuck Schumer 1:24:48.600 --> 1:24:49.479 really recruited him. 1:24:49.479 --> 1:24:50.280 Of course, Chuck. 1:24:50.080 --> 1:24:52.240 Schumer has his own problems, but he's not even up 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:56.200 for re elections this cycle. But the Democrats seem to 1:24:56.360 --> 1:24:58.840 like and he also has done well in the past 1:24:58.920 --> 1:25:02.600 with independence so called moderates because he's considered a so 1:25:02.800 --> 1:25:06.280 called moderate. I think it's I think John eastid has 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:09.360 a good chance. But I think it's really going to 1:25:09.400 --> 1:25:12.320 be a race to watch. And if John east is losing, 1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:14.960 I think that's going to be a bell lother. 1:25:14.880 --> 1:25:16.760 For how the rest of it night is going to go. Yeah, 1:25:16.800 --> 1:25:19.680 you know Republicans overall nationwide. 1:25:19.920 --> 1:25:24.000 Yeah, I think it's incumbent. If Trump really wants to 1:25:24.040 --> 1:25:26.760 get involved in this election here in Ohio, and well, 1:25:26.840 --> 1:25:29.599 I guess is why wouldn't he be, But he's got 1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:32.479 to get together with Thune Trump does and figure out 1:25:32.520 --> 1:25:38.559 a way to boost John Houston's reckon just his status 1:25:38.720 --> 1:25:40.840 in the state and forty. I saw this pole a 1:25:40.880 --> 1:25:44.760 month ago. People don't know who he is. That's good, 1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:47.760 I guess, whatever picture you want to yourself. But it's 1:25:47.800 --> 1:25:50.040 also pretty darn bad for a guy that's been in 1:25:50.120 --> 1:25:53.080 a while politics forever. So I think he has to 1:25:53.160 --> 1:25:55.600 boost his visibility in Washington, don't you. 1:25:57.120 --> 1:25:59.599 Absolutely Trump did offer an endorsement. 1:25:59.640 --> 1:26:01.160 I believe Jady Vance did as well. 1:26:01.240 --> 1:26:03.880 If you said, campaign is certainly speaking to that and 1:26:04.080 --> 1:26:08.120 promoting that, but he's just, you know, there's not You 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:11.960 have some quieter senators and some more in your faith senators, 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:14.040 and it's okay to be a quiet senator in a 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:14.719 lot of ways. 1:26:14.600 --> 1:26:15.280 Get a lot done. 1:26:15.600 --> 1:26:18.720 But it will it does present again, the campaign would 1:26:18.760 --> 1:26:23.040 call it an opportunity. That's definitely an opportunity. We'll see 1:26:23.040 --> 1:26:24.519 if they're going to see that. We're now in the 1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:28.040 new year, so let's see. Let's see how that will 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:31.160 turn out, especially if they're going to maybe have campaign 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:35.680 events together. He said of Gramaswami, my understanding and conversations 1:26:35.760 --> 1:26:40.400 I've had that's been at least implied that the ticket 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:42.479 is going to kind of help each other out, and 1:26:42.800 --> 1:26:43.920 we'll see where that goes. 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:47.960 All under the purview of another Cincinnati guy, Alex Treantapila, 1:26:48.000 --> 1:26:51.160 who is the Ohio Republican Party chairman. It's amazing, Rebecca, 1:26:51.280 --> 1:26:53.960 how all things filter back to Cincinnati. Doesn't know what 1:26:54.040 --> 1:26:58.719 you're talking about. Whether it's politics, sports, medicine, international affairs, 1:26:58.760 --> 1:27:02.160 everything seems to filter back to Cincinnati. Rebecca down, Yeah, 1:27:02.640 --> 1:27:06.840 the daily Yes, yes, you for your time today. Keep 1:27:06.920 --> 1:27:08.320 up the good work and we'll be in touch. 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:11.960 Thanks, thank you. Have a great weekend, you too, you. 1:27:12.080 --> 1:27:13.920 Too, We'll see. I don't know. 1:27:14.000 --> 1:27:17.320 We got a long way to go before election, before 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:20.400 the gubernatorial election in November. I don't know how much 1:27:20.520 --> 1:27:23.759 McCaulay helps with the general electorate. I certainly did inside 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:26.360 his own party. And I have no idea about David Pepper. 1:27:26.400 --> 1:27:29.000 I just I just think the top of that ticket 1:27:29.240 --> 1:27:31.600 when you when you just peel it away is I 1:27:31.760 --> 1:27:35.040 just think she's she's very unpopular, and whether or not 1:27:35.439 --> 1:27:37.880 she actually winds up with a nomination, it would appear 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:38.360 she would. 1:27:39.520 --> 1:27:42.920 I don't know what kind of I don't know what kind. 1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:47.160 Of traction she's got from an electric stamp, an electoric standpoint. 1:27:47.560 --> 1:27:50.320 Find out, that's why they play the games, right, coming 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:53.880 up on two twenty seven, News Radio seven hundred WLW. 1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:06.360 Now your host Ken Brew on news Radio seven hundred WLW. 1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:10.000 Hey, we've got a little bonus coverage today, normally done three, 1:28:10.120 --> 1:28:13.160 taking it right up to three thirty. In Xavier basketball 1:28:13.280 --> 1:28:17.200 against Providence, Xavier struggling. They've lost three in a row. 1:28:17.240 --> 1:28:21.000 They've only won twice since defeating the University of Cincinnati 1:28:21.040 --> 1:28:22.920 and the Crosstown shootout. Of course, they had that long 1:28:23.000 --> 1:28:27.360 break in December. But nevertheless, on whard they pressed today 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:31.840 against Providence. There was a poll that was out latter 1:28:31.920 --> 1:28:35.160 part of twenty twenty five, and it caught my eye 1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:37.000 because I think it speaks to what a lot of 1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:39.479 what we speak about here on this show and certainly 1:28:39.520 --> 1:28:43.320 other shows on seven hundred a WLW was conducted by 1:28:43.320 --> 1:28:44.960 the New York Times in Ceno. 1:28:45.120 --> 1:28:49.400 Sienna is a university. Liberal university. 1:28:49.439 --> 1:28:52.240 I don't trust polling that's conducted in any way, shape 1:28:52.280 --> 1:28:55.960 or form by any university that's not to run down 1:28:56.120 --> 1:28:59.479 universities per se. I just don't think that polling in 1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:03.479 general has a very good track record, and then when 1:29:03.520 --> 1:29:06.479 you combine it with universities, it seems to get worse. 1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:10.800 But nevertheless, I did find this interesting. Many of us, 1:29:10.920 --> 1:29:14.679 you and me, believe that America is too politically divided. Duh, 1:29:15.120 --> 1:29:18.519 of course it is, though some of the polling that 1:29:18.760 --> 1:29:21.639 was done in there leads one to believe that maybe 1:29:21.800 --> 1:29:26.280 we're not salvageable as a society when it comes to politics. 1:29:26.920 --> 1:29:31.280 Sixty four percent of registered voters think the country's sharp 1:29:31.360 --> 1:29:34.920 divisions cannot solve political problems, and one third of us 1:29:34.960 --> 1:29:39.040 say the political system still has merit and we can 1:29:39.160 --> 1:29:41.880 get to the bottom of what's wrong. Now that's a 1:29:41.960 --> 1:29:44.080 huge jump from the last time this poll was done 1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:46.559 about five years ago. Forty two percent of the country 1:29:46.600 --> 1:29:49.360 Back then thought the nation was too divided to solve 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:52.000 its problems. Fifty one percent said the country could still 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:55.519 do it. Now it's at sixty four registered voters who 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:59.120 think the country is divided to a point where it's 1:29:59.240 --> 1:30:03.920 unsolvable unsalvagable, and thirty three percent say the system can 1:30:04.840 --> 1:30:07.960 address the problems. It just seems like this is getting 1:30:08.120 --> 1:30:12.200 worse and worse. So from time to time I am 1:30:12.240 --> 1:30:14.080 on a guy that I think is really interesting. I 1:30:14.120 --> 1:30:16.880 hope you find it this way too. His name is 1:30:16.920 --> 1:30:20.240 Peter Lemage. He is someone who came to this country, 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:26.559 emigrated to this country legally. He was from Albania, which, 1:30:26.640 --> 1:30:30.040 as you know, is not a country that's very open minded, 1:30:31.160 --> 1:30:33.799 and he settled in Connecticut. He's run for political office 1:30:33.880 --> 1:30:37.120 up there in Connecticut and unsuccessfully on a number of times. 1:30:37.160 --> 1:30:41.080 He's running in twenty twenty six for the job of 1:30:41.240 --> 1:30:45.400 Secretary of State in the great state of Connecticut. But 1:30:45.560 --> 1:30:47.719 like I say, I value his opinion and I wanted 1:30:47.760 --> 1:30:50.720 to get his thoughts on this poll and whether or 1:30:50.800 --> 1:30:54.920 not our society as a whole when it comes to politics, 1:30:56.240 --> 1:30:59.160 is saveable, if not salvageable. 1:31:00.120 --> 1:31:02.360 So let's welcome in, Peter Lamage. Good to have you 1:31:02.439 --> 1:31:04.240 with us. How are I in this fine Saturday. 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:05.920 I'm doing well. 1:31:06.000 --> 1:31:06.800 Thank you for having me. 1:31:06.880 --> 1:31:08.639 How you doing I'm doing well too. 1:31:08.720 --> 1:31:11.200 I'm glad that you're here, because, as you well know, 1:31:11.360 --> 1:31:13.920 we are a country that is at each other's throats. 1:31:13.920 --> 1:31:16.880 And it's all because it seems like politics here. Now, 1:31:16.920 --> 1:31:20.080 a New New York Times siena pol that shows sixty 1:31:20.200 --> 1:31:24.560 four percent of us of voters now believe America is 1:31:24.720 --> 1:31:28.280 too divided to solve its problems. And this is a 1:31:28.479 --> 1:31:31.360 stunning drop and optimism compared to just a couple of 1:31:31.479 --> 1:31:31.960 years ago. 1:31:32.600 --> 1:31:33.679 Sixty four percent. 1:31:33.880 --> 1:31:36.240 Doctor, that's two and every three of us think this 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:38.200 thing is hopeless here in this country. 1:31:38.560 --> 1:31:41.519 Please give us some hope and tell us why. Yet again, 1:31:41.600 --> 1:31:42.960 the New York Times may be wrong. 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:46.560 Look, I was reading the poll, but the pool. But 1:31:46.840 --> 1:31:48.800 you have to understand one thing. New York Times has 1:31:48.960 --> 1:31:53.000 not been doing justice to conducting these polls. And I 1:31:53.040 --> 1:31:55.720 would take that with a grain of salt when it 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:58.920 comes to the American population. But for the fact with 1:31:59.000 --> 1:32:01.439 the American people, but for the fact that the media 1:32:01.560 --> 1:32:06.120 keeps on driving this divide between them, the academia, the politicians. Otherwise, 1:32:06.160 --> 1:32:09.000 American people ordinary posts like you and I. We wake 1:32:09.080 --> 1:32:11.439 up in the morning, we go to work, support our families. 1:32:11.680 --> 1:32:15.160 We don't think about disliking each other. Somehow, New York 1:32:15.200 --> 1:32:18.040 Times finding that people to come up with a fall 1:32:18.120 --> 1:32:20.599 that sixty four percent or sixty three to sixty four 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:25.880 percent of the American people believe that America cannot resolve. 1:32:25.479 --> 1:32:26.640 Its own challenges. 1:32:26.960 --> 1:32:29.439 They forget the fact that we have faced greater challenges 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:32.200 in the past. You can go back to eighteen sixty one, 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:34.240 eighteen sixty five, will report a civil war. 1:32:34.560 --> 1:32:35.960 We have the civil rights. 1:32:35.840 --> 1:32:39.599 Movements, we have the ninety eleven attack. Somehow Americans find 1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:43.200 a way of uniting when it comes to Americanism. But 1:32:43.520 --> 1:32:46.559 New York Times, for whatever reason, you know, it's able 1:32:46.720 --> 1:32:50.559 to come up with these numbers. We still see people 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:53.360 from all over the world wanting to come to the 1:32:53.479 --> 1:32:57.600 United States, both legally and illegally, because they see America 1:32:57.880 --> 1:33:02.200 as the exceptional nation that we are where people have 1:33:02.320 --> 1:33:05.120 the opportunity to live the American dream, to pursue the 1:33:05.200 --> 1:33:08.519 American dream. And every time that you have American born 1:33:08.640 --> 1:33:13.640 citizens trying to promote something that is not quite American. 1:33:14.160 --> 1:33:17.240 People like me who give the United States thirty six 1:33:17.360 --> 1:33:20.680 years ago so refugee, we really are battled by it 1:33:20.880 --> 1:33:24.479 that they think that we are just another country in 1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:28.240 the world. America is that exceptional country that was founded 1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:32.080 by the founding fathers of this country, and it remains 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:35.000 the strongest and the most prosperous and the greatest nation 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:37.120 in the world. And I don't say that for you 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:39.320 just because I live in the United States. It is 1:33:39.800 --> 1:33:41.879 the fact that when I compare it with the countries 1:33:41.920 --> 1:33:43.920 that I've visited, that I've seen, that I've lived in, 1:33:44.800 --> 1:33:49.120 it is just completely different from the rest of the world, 1:33:49.320 --> 1:33:52.040 and I think that we're maintaining that position. We're maintaining 1:33:52.080 --> 1:33:54.400 that of those standards, regardless of what The New York 1:33:54.439 --> 1:33:55.920 Times is reporting on that board. 1:33:56.040 --> 1:33:59.599 But you know, Peter is not just the Times. In April, 1:33:59.680 --> 1:34:03.520 there was a group called the Network Contagion Research Institute 1:34:03.760 --> 1:34:06.960 and Rutgers University sponsored this that had found that fifty 1:34:07.120 --> 1:34:11.400 five percent, fifty five percent of self identified left of 1:34:11.479 --> 1:34:15.320 center respondents said that it was at least somewhat justified 1:34:15.800 --> 1:34:19.720 to murder President Trump. In twenty seventeen, u goov, you know, 1:34:19.840 --> 1:34:24.280 the YouGov group, they were asked people, was it justified 1:34:24.360 --> 1:34:28.880 to advance political goals with violence? Eight percent said just 1:34:28.960 --> 1:34:31.400 a little bit justified. Well, they come back and they 1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:34.760 do that same poll again after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, 1:34:35.120 --> 1:34:39.280 eleven percent said violence can sometimes be justified to achieve 1:34:39.360 --> 1:34:44.640 political goals. Let's let's be honest here. The left of 1:34:44.720 --> 1:34:47.920 center group is a dangerous group right now. And I 1:34:48.000 --> 1:34:51.519 think if you're getting something like what Rutger's got, and 1:34:51.600 --> 1:34:54.400 it could quite possibly be an outlier. And I don't 1:34:54.439 --> 1:34:57.000 trust any kind of a polling. I think it is 1:34:57.040 --> 1:35:00.880 an outdated metric. But Nevertheless, I don't see how you 1:35:01.000 --> 1:35:04.520 come back from something like that. That's that's that's radicalism 1:35:04.640 --> 1:35:06.080 right there, your thoughts. 1:35:07.280 --> 1:35:09.200 No one can deny the fact that we have been, 1:35:09.600 --> 1:35:12.040 you know, the United States has been radicalized in a 1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:15.040 certain group of or a certain part of the population 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:15.880 United States. 1:35:16.200 --> 1:35:17.800 One of the greatest mistakes. 1:35:17.400 --> 1:35:19.599 That we have been making in the last I would 1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:22.320 say forty fifty years is that we have been importing 1:35:22.439 --> 1:35:24.680 certain cultures in the United States that they are not 1:35:24.840 --> 1:35:27.519 compatible with our values and what we stand for. 1:35:28.160 --> 1:35:29.160 Violence should never. 1:35:29.120 --> 1:35:33.040 Be justified to settle political differences, you know, in the 1:35:33.120 --> 1:35:34.519 United States or anyone else. 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:35.479 In the world for that matter. 1:35:35.960 --> 1:35:37.840 But when you look at that goal, you see that 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:41.519 the majority that the largest majority of the Republicans disagree 1:35:41.560 --> 1:35:43.880 with that. I think it was ninety percent department mistake, 1:35:43.960 --> 1:35:47.400 or even greater. It was the fringers in the United 1:35:47.439 --> 1:35:50.200 States that they believe that if you disagree with someone 1:35:50.240 --> 1:35:55.280 when it comes to certain political principles or values, violence 1:35:55.320 --> 1:35:58.519 may be justified, and that is something that we should 1:35:58.640 --> 1:36:02.000 never tolerate in United State. But that number sometimes surprises me. 1:36:02.160 --> 1:36:04.800 That is not even higher when you see that we 1:36:04.960 --> 1:36:09.320 have professors in our institution that are promoted anti Americanism, 1:36:09.360 --> 1:36:12.400 and that they think that Republicans are evil, that President 1:36:13.200 --> 1:36:15.360 Trump is evil, that he's a notpted, that he's this 1:36:15.479 --> 1:36:18.520 fassions that I mean, the way they describe the Republicans 1:36:18.600 --> 1:36:20.960 sometimes is like, I'm surprised that the number is not 1:36:21.040 --> 1:36:25.320 even higher. You barely hear Republicans or Conservatives or common 1:36:25.400 --> 1:36:30.560 sensical Democrats, including the senator from Pennsylvania, which surprises me 1:36:30.720 --> 1:36:35.000 sometimes the left that way. The interview that he gave 1:36:35.080 --> 1:36:37.280 last night on Parks or he was speaking somewhere and 1:36:37.320 --> 1:36:39.880 I was following that, he said, I cannot dislike or 1:36:39.960 --> 1:36:43.080 hate Republicans. I'm the only Democrat in my family. He said, 1:36:43.160 --> 1:36:46.000 these people are not anti Americans, they are not passions. 1:36:46.080 --> 1:36:48.400 They are not these crazy people that you think that 1:36:48.479 --> 1:36:51.520 they are. But then on the other hand, the Democrats 1:36:51.560 --> 1:36:55.560 they stand there. But ninety percent of the media in 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:59.320 the United States, they keep them speaking or promoting negative things. 1:36:59.479 --> 1:37:03.720 But Republicans and so do so do the educational institutions. 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:07.679 Although the newspapers sometimes and these numbers come from the left, 1:37:07.760 --> 1:37:10.360 and it's unfortunate, but you know that that number is 1:37:10.479 --> 1:37:14.360 quite you know, correct when it comes especially center left 1:37:14.600 --> 1:37:19.280 with Americans that they would believe in, you know, using 1:37:19.439 --> 1:37:22.760 violence to settle political differences. I thought that I would 1:37:22.800 --> 1:37:25.680 never see this in the United States, but unfortunately we've 1:37:25.680 --> 1:37:28.320 seen that. And we saw that with President Trump that 1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:30.560 twice there were you know, attamns on his life. We 1:37:30.640 --> 1:37:33.400 sw that with the assassination of Choraley Kurk. And when 1:37:33.439 --> 1:37:35.960 you look at all these assassinations in the United States 1:37:36.240 --> 1:37:39.360 or attempted assassinations in the United States, the. 1:37:39.439 --> 1:37:42.000 Targets have always, with the exception. 1:37:41.800 --> 1:37:46.080 Of JFK, been Conservatives or Republicans, and the assassins or 1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:49.439 potential assassins, they have always been on the left. And 1:37:49.560 --> 1:37:52.240 this is some this is something that the Democrat Party 1:37:52.600 --> 1:37:54.240 is going to have to come to its terms to 1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:59.320 understand that their membership has to be somehow, uh, the 1:37:59.400 --> 1:38:03.360 more understand and of the differences that the Republicans or 1:38:03.400 --> 1:38:07.120 the political differences that the Republicans are you know, presenting 1:38:07.200 --> 1:38:11.240 to them. And unfortunately I don't see that happening soon enough. Actually, 1:38:11.280 --> 1:38:14.559 we need that as soon as possible, that that boy, 1:38:14.560 --> 1:38:15.720 he's going to have to understand that. 1:38:16.040 --> 1:38:19.440 Doctor Peter image our guest. He is a conservative strategist. 1:38:19.520 --> 1:38:22.640 He is also a candidate for elective office in Connecticut. 1:38:23.439 --> 1:38:26.519 You know, I think about things about where all of 1:38:26.600 --> 1:38:30.160 this went off the rails. I remember the debates between 1:38:30.240 --> 1:38:34.840 Nixon and Kennedy, between Carter and Ford, between Reagan and Carter, 1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:39.040 and so on, and they were all very respectful debates. 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:42.880 We all knew that the media, even back the mainstream media, 1:38:43.000 --> 1:38:47.360 even back in the sixties, was a leaning left operation. 1:38:48.080 --> 1:38:51.719 It is hard leaning left right now, ABC, CBS, NBC. 1:38:52.360 --> 1:38:55.640 It's just the way they are. They're populated by reporters 1:38:55.760 --> 1:39:00.000 and strategists and editors that have come out of liberal institutions, 1:39:00.240 --> 1:39:03.519 and so it translates into what we see and here 1:39:03.600 --> 1:39:04.599 on a daily basis. 1:39:05.040 --> 1:39:07.200 But I think this all went off the rails more 1:39:07.240 --> 1:39:07.920 I think about it. 1:39:08.439 --> 1:39:12.840 In the twenty sixteen election, the Democrats fully believed that 1:39:13.080 --> 1:39:16.400 Hillary Clinton not only was going to be elected president, 1:39:16.520 --> 1:39:19.320 but deserved to be elected president and should have been 1:39:19.360 --> 1:39:22.599 elected president. And when it didn't happen, I think that's 1:39:22.680 --> 1:39:26.799 when all of this stuff, this Nazis and this Hitler 1:39:26.880 --> 1:39:29.719 and all that, all that diatribe that had been thrown 1:39:29.800 --> 1:39:32.280 against the right. I think it all began in the 1:39:32.360 --> 1:39:35.640 wake of that. I don't think Democrats could handle the 1:39:35.720 --> 1:39:40.360 fact that Donald Trump, whom they loved, doctor they loved before. 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:41.120 He ran for president. 1:39:41.200 --> 1:39:43.759 I don't think they could handle the fact that Donald 1:39:43.800 --> 1:39:46.720 Trump was now president of the United States and the 1:39:46.800 --> 1:39:48.400 Golden Girl Hillary was not. 1:39:49.040 --> 1:39:49.639 Am I wrong? 1:39:51.280 --> 1:39:52.040 No, you're not wrong. 1:39:52.160 --> 1:39:55.560 Actually, the keyword that you used to her here is 1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:58.920 that they believed that she deserved it to be the 1:39:59.000 --> 1:40:01.160 president of the Uni States. And I think that is 1:40:01.479 --> 1:40:05.280 what we should underline, that nobody deserves anything. You walk 1:40:05.320 --> 1:40:07.560 out there, you earn it, you work for it, you 1:40:07.680 --> 1:40:09.960 fight for it, and you get you convince people to 1:40:10.040 --> 1:40:13.320 vote for you. And I think that Clinton miserably failed 1:40:13.400 --> 1:40:16.320 to do that, so did Harris. And Donald Trump was 1:40:16.360 --> 1:40:20.519 able to convince the larger part of the American population 1:40:20.680 --> 1:40:22.599 to vote for him, and they get to the American 1:40:22.640 --> 1:40:25.360 people continue to love him. I mean, still the bas 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:28.479 is about ninety percent supportive of what Trump stands for 1:40:28.680 --> 1:40:31.080 and what he's doing to put America first. But when 1:40:31.120 --> 1:40:35.040 you look at the Socialist Democrats of America of America, 1:40:35.120 --> 1:40:38.160 for example, you look at the leadership that that movement had, 1:40:38.439 --> 1:40:40.519 and you look at the names over there, whether it's 1:40:40.760 --> 1:40:44.360 Receive at the leap or whether it's Omar or Bernie Sanders, 1:40:44.600 --> 1:40:47.559 Zorah Mandani. Now, I mean, you look at these people 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:51.760 and it makes you wonder that most of them, or 1:40:51.800 --> 1:40:54.680 all of them, with the exception of Bernie Sanders, they 1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:57.280 were not even born in the United States. They've come 1:40:57.360 --> 1:41:00.560 from countries that they were supposed to escape, or that 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:05.000 at least we believe they were escaping these liberal, socialistic policies, 1:41:05.280 --> 1:41:07.080 and yet they come to the United States and the 1:41:07.200 --> 1:41:10.880 moment they become American citizens, they promote the exact same 1:41:10.960 --> 1:41:13.800 policies that they left behind in their countries which drove 1:41:13.920 --> 1:41:16.560 them out of their countries. And this is something that 1:41:16.760 --> 1:41:20.519 is that the Democrat Party has allowed this left wing 1:41:21.000 --> 1:41:24.360 part of the party to take control of the party, 1:41:24.479 --> 1:41:28.240 and now the more common sensical people, including the Senator 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:31.600 from New York, they are afraid of these people, including ocagiquarters, 1:41:31.640 --> 1:41:33.880 that they are going to primary them and remove them 1:41:33.920 --> 1:41:37.519 from power because they have garnished so much support, whether 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:40.040 it's the youth, whether it's the minorities in these cities, 1:41:40.680 --> 1:41:43.800 whereas the ones that they can consider to be disenfranchised. 1:41:43.960 --> 1:41:45.880 I mean, they have garnished so much support in these 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:49.120 cities that the common sensical Democrats are scared of them. 1:41:49.960 --> 1:41:52.040 They're going to have to stand up to these you. 1:41:52.080 --> 1:41:58.320 Know, so forth leaders of the socialist Americans and then 1:41:58.520 --> 1:42:01.679 just dismantled their policies. They have to have to bag 1:42:01.760 --> 1:42:03.840 bone the character in the forty two to stand up 1:42:03.880 --> 1:42:06.440 with these people and tell them this is not American 1:42:06.560 --> 1:42:08.680 at all and we're not going to tolerate this. 1:42:08.800 --> 1:42:10.439 And I hope they do that in this election. 1:42:11.120 --> 1:42:14.519 It's been about five or six years ago, but doctor 1:42:14.560 --> 1:42:18.040 Peter Lumage wrote a terrific book. It's called My Father's Prayers, 1:42:18.080 --> 1:42:22.320 and it details coming to America, escaping socialism, and his 1:42:22.439 --> 1:42:24.960 hope for America. If you can find it, it's a 1:42:25.040 --> 1:42:26.960 tough fine, but if it's out there, it is a 1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:30.360 great read. And doctor Lemage, it's always great having you on. 1:42:30.560 --> 1:42:32.560 You stay well. We need to hear your voice and 1:42:32.720 --> 1:42:34.120 thank you for your time here. 1:42:35.160 --> 1:42:36.880 Thank you very much, God bless you guys. I have 1:42:36.920 --> 1:42:37.519 a great weekend. 1:42:37.680 --> 1:42:37.920 Thank you. 1:42:38.520 --> 1:42:43.120 Sixty four percent say it's out of our control now, 1:42:43.880 --> 1:42:47.200 it's a beast running amok. Yeah, but you know what, 1:42:47.800 --> 1:42:51.240 it all seems to come back to center eventually, the 1:42:51.320 --> 1:42:54.240 Democrats that have you believe that's when Donald Trump leaves 1:42:54.320 --> 1:42:56.760 office and rides into the sunset to never be heard 1:42:56.800 --> 1:43:01.200 from again. And the Democrats the Republicans would tell you, 1:43:01.360 --> 1:43:04.519 as soon as the squad shuts up, as soon as 1:43:04.680 --> 1:43:07.840 socialists are stopped being elected to public office, it'll all 1:43:07.920 --> 1:43:10.400 get better. The fact of the matter is, none of 1:43:10.439 --> 1:43:13.519 that's true. It's up to you and me to make 1:43:13.600 --> 1:43:17.960 it better. That's where it all starts. And maybe next 1:43:18.000 --> 1:43:20.400 time they take that survey. Maybe next time, if there 1:43:20.479 --> 1:43:22.000 is a next time for the New York Times and 1:43:22.080 --> 1:43:24.280 seeing a college, maybe that number isn't sixty four. 1:43:25.160 --> 1:43:27.400 Maybe it's a little bit lower, maybe it's a lot lower. 1:43:28.439 --> 1:43:31.280 That's what you've got to keep alive. That's hope. 1:43:32.720 --> 1:43:36.160 We'll see if hope becomes reality now three twenty three 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:40.000 on this Saturday afternoon news Radio seven hundred ALW