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Speaker 1: Station on a Monday. That means one thing for sure.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Smithlman, former Vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: for the Christopher Smitheman smither Vent, Welcome back, my friend.

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Speaker 1: It's always great having you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks for having me on. Brian. I tell you,

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Speaker 2: this weather is something that's very rare for Cincinnati and

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Speaker 2: our region. And I've been listening to your show. I'm

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Speaker 2: just reiterating what you were saying earlier. People should stay

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Speaker 2: off the roads, be very very careful. You know, a

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Speaker 2: level three is real. You just heard the FOP president. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know say an officer could stop you. So what

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Speaker 2: they're really just basically saying is make way for firefighters,

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Speaker 2: police officers. You know, the the trucks that are that

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Speaker 2: are that are removing the snow. So you're you're keeping

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Speaker 2: it safe for everybody. And the biggest risk on top

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Speaker 2: of what we have now is this the cold weather

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Speaker 2: and so the Arctic air that's coming in we all

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Speaker 2: have to respect even going out to your car just

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Speaker 2: trying to clear it off. Well, you started saying fifteen

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Speaker 2: and seventeen and twenty degrees below zero going tonight. That

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Speaker 2: is very very significant for our region.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you keep your eye on loved ones,

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Speaker 1: most notably seniors who might be living alone if the

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Speaker 1: power goes out. You know, that's a serious problem right there.

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Speaker 1: So we all need to stand mind our p's and cues.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I guess the best way to get

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Speaker 1: out of the way of law enforcement and emergency vehicles

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Speaker 1: and snowplous is just don't be on the roads in

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Speaker 1: the first place. Hey, speaking of roads, did you get

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Speaker 1: your street plowed, Christopher? Because if you look at the

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Speaker 1: city map, it doesn't look like the west end got

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Speaker 1: any love. But I just asked Corey Bowman by a

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Speaker 1: way of text, if he's his area got plows waiting

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Speaker 1: to hear back from I was just wondering if the

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Speaker 1: former vice mayor street got plowed.

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Speaker 2: No, we're still worth our side. Streets are still not plowed.

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Speaker 2: And you know, all I can say to the city is,

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Speaker 2: you know, when I served with John Cranleigh, one of

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Speaker 2: the things that he did a good job in these

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Speaker 2: these emergencies is communicate, communicating, and communicate. I always find

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Speaker 2: it interesting that our mayor and members of council kind

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Speaker 2: of just disappear. Yeah, so they don't make themselves available.

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Speaker 2: They don't come on your show, they don't you don't

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Speaker 2: see them on the news, you know, they don't see

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Speaker 2: you don't see them riding in the middle of the

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Speaker 2: night with the snow trucks. Really just you know, really

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Speaker 2: pumping up those men and women and let's thank them

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Speaker 2: for all the work they've been working around the clock,

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Speaker 2: trymatively sile with mini streets as they can. But the

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Speaker 2: leadership kind of like goes home. They're sitting in their

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Speaker 2: warm houses and they're really not out there on the

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Speaker 2: front lines with the city workers trying to get it done.

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know this is again, I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen the mayor anywhere who you can find it with

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Speaker 2: the search warrant. And that's the problem with this leadership.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's an excellent point, Christopher, because you

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Speaker 1: know the road crews are probably working there, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, working hard, and they're doing as

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Speaker 1: much as they can with the resources they have. There

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Speaker 1: are so many roads they have to clear, it's impossible

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Speaker 1: to stay up on it. This is it's a record

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Speaker 1: snowfalls and most snow we've got at one time in

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Speaker 1: twenty years. So at minimum, America go out and say listen,

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Speaker 1: we're on top of it. We'll get to you eventually.

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Speaker 1: But you have to understand the volume of snow is

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Speaker 1: not something you can just wave a wand and make

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Speaker 1: it disappear. So if your road hasn't been addressed yet,

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Speaker 1: it's because we're working on the main thoroughfares trying to

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Speaker 1: clear things up for the vast majority of folks, and

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Speaker 1: we'll ultimately get to it. And I presume that's what's

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Speaker 1: going on. But yeah, the silence is deafening, and that

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Speaker 1: is it's kind of a modus operandi when it comes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then what you do. What you see them

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Speaker 2: holding press conferences on are resolutions about you know, essentially

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Speaker 2: we don't like ice or we don't want ice in

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Speaker 2: our community, you know, over the last two weeks. So

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Speaker 2: That's what's frustrating for me. I mean, I'm sure they're

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Speaker 2: going to hold a press conference at some point, but

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Speaker 2: it pivots me into just my heart goes out always

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Speaker 2: when you have loss of life. Brian Thomas, like I said,

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Speaker 2: I have quite a few questions about the shooting that

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Speaker 2: talk about it. But that's what I'm going to tee

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Speaker 2: up as we come back. You know, after the body.

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Speaker 1: Well done, Chris thepherst segue to the break. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: have done it better absolutely, seven twenty six. Right now

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Speaker 1: more with Christopher Smithman and the smith Event. Happy Monday

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Speaker 1: to you. Talking to Christopher smith Aman what we call

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Speaker 1: the Smither event. Christopher, you're getting ready to segue over

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Speaker 1: to the tragedy in Minneapolis over the weekend. I just

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Speaker 1: find it really weird. The protesters are running rampant in

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Speaker 1: the street. They don't want Ice doing their job, or

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Speaker 1: they're looking out for whatever that splitting out families, whatever

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Speaker 1: the argument is. You know, Obama deported more people than

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Speaker 1: any other president he was. He gave Tom Homan, the

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Speaker 1: guy who's still in the same role, a presidential rank award,

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Speaker 1: I mean for Distinguished Service Order in twenty fifteen. During

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Speaker 1: the Obama administration, the highest honor for federal career executives

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Speaker 1: that is given. He was in charge of ICE enforcement

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Speaker 1: and removal, which was quite successful under Obama. Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: back then called the deporter in Chief by immigration groups

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Speaker 1: Christopher He also had the same strategy deport criminals. That

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Speaker 1: that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: And people died, meaning there were situations that ICE agents

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Speaker 2: had during his administration. All of those things are absolutely facts.

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Speaker 2: You know, I want to just rewind because I do

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Speaker 2: think that this is a close call. But oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the totality of the facts to the public. It's

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Speaker 2: not the one moment where he was disarmed and he

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Speaker 2: was shot. It's the totality of this thing. And so

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Speaker 2: when I look at the incident and I go, okay,

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Speaker 2: there's a protest happening. I'm a concealed carry many I

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Speaker 2: carry a weapon most of the time, right legally. When

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Speaker 2: an officer pulls me over, which has happened, my hands

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Speaker 2: even though on my license plates, I already know he

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Speaker 2: I want that officer relaxed and comfortable as I get

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Speaker 2: whatever that is. He's in his mind, there's a woman

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Speaker 2: being pushed. You've got a weapon. Maybe this is not

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Speaker 2: but never with a weapon, never with a semi automatic weapon.

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Speaker 2: So let's acknowledge that this man was making some very

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Speaker 2: as far as not they're not breaking the law and

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Speaker 2: now you have somebody engaging with a weapon, and I

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Speaker 2: just want to say that everything that happened after that, right,

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Speaker 2: those decisions ended up with the unfortunate death of this guy,

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Speaker 2: And so my heart goes out to his family. I

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Speaker 2: it's a close call. But you're going to have to

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Speaker 2: like un you know, like when the gun was taken,

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Speaker 1: Even the initial question is is and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: we even have the answer on this one, Christopher, did

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Speaker 1: But the mere fact of the existence of a firearm

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Speaker 2: I think this again, I think this is a very

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, right politically, what

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's tried to influence the other states across

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Speaker 2: They are the ones that have the chaos. They're acting

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Speaker 2: as if this chaos is coming from the White House,

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Speaker 2: right because you started your show talking about President Barack Obama.

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Speaker 2: He actually deported more people than any president. He gave

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Speaker 2: when President Barack Obama was doing this, when people died.

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Speaker 2: When he was doing it, you didn't see the uproar

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Speaker 2: he did it differently. The way he approached was differently.

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Speaker 2: There are people out there that will say that. But

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, here's what I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to say to you. What we're seeing breaking into hotels,

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Speaker 2: You are raising the temperature every time one of These

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Speaker 2: and we're asking them to make these split second decisions.

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Speaker 2: The last point I'll make is this is all rooted

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, this is the

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Speaker 2: Sir? You know what is so scary is I watch

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Speaker 2: I mean, just think about the removal of Maduro from Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party again, I'm going to continue to say this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Christopher Smithman's words. Look what happened in New

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