WEBVTT - Sterling 10/9/26 0:00:00.210 --> 0:00:03.570 So the weekend Sterling hanging out in a week's time 0:00:03.630 --> 0:00:06.430 in a couple of days, we've gone from news of 0:00:06.490 --> 0:00:12.200 an impending execution in Tennessee to a twice failed attempt 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:16.220 at lethal injection to a woman waking up. And now 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.790 the question is, what's next? And in that same window 0:00:19.829 --> 0:00:22.470 of time, as we discussed it here on The Nation 0:00:22.510 --> 0:00:28.100 Station 700 WLW, comes talk of now also a firing 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.400 squad at the federal level for someone who decided to 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:36.400 wreak havoc and create carnage against U.S. personnel. Kind enough 0:00:36.420 --> 0:00:39.280 to give us some time looking at the questions that 0:00:39.330 --> 0:00:42.690 go into the idea of the death penalty, whether it's 0:00:42.729 --> 0:00:46.640 cruel and unusual punishment, whether it's entertainment punishment. whether it 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.320 should be private or whether it should be public fodder 0:00:49.420 --> 0:00:52.460 as it used to be, and maybe the most successful 0:00:52.540 --> 0:00:55.120 method of putting someone to death is a guy who 0:00:55.180 --> 0:00:57.910 studied it for the better part of like 45 years. 0:00:58.270 --> 0:01:00.530 He knows a thing or two about a thing or 0:01:00.570 --> 0:01:03.390 two on these issues and is kind enough to give 0:01:03.430 --> 0:01:06.410 us some time. He's Michael L. Radlett. He is, in fact. 0:01:07.270 --> 0:01:07.429 Uh. 0:01:07.610 --> 0:01:10.810 from the university of colorado boulder and kind enough to 0:01:10.850 --> 0:01:13.289 give us some time here was sterling on seven hundred 0:01:13.610 --> 0:01:15.929 w l w how are you sir thank you for making. 0:01:15.690 --> 0:01:19.009 Time you bet sterling thanks for having. 0:01:18.970 --> 0:01:23.979 Me on doing what you do in studying the idea 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.839 of death penalty executions and so forth. What is your take, 0:01:28.020 --> 0:01:30.500 just in the last 10 to 12 days, of what 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.460 we have seen in these United States, from the state 0:01:33.500 --> 0:01:36.140 level to the federal level, when it comes to putting 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:36.980 people to death? 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:42.819 Well, the botched execution last week in Tennessee was totally predictable, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.190 and we'll find the find out the full story in 0:01:47.209 --> 0:01:50.140 a few months about what was going on there. They 0:01:50.180 --> 0:01:53.800 tried twice to execute a woman named Kristen Pike. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:55.000 It didn't work. 0:01:55.860 --> 0:01:59.220 After an hour or so, she was damn near dead, 0:01:59.580 --> 0:02:02.510 but they unhooked her and brought her to the hospital, 0:02:03.070 --> 0:02:08.410 and miraculously, she survived. She's now talking and apparently eating 0:02:08.430 --> 0:02:12.470 a normal diet. But even though she was comatose when 0:02:12.490 --> 0:02:14.660 they brought her to the hospital, they still kept her 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.760 shackled and in handcuffs. I mean, I don't know what 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.520 that was all about. But, man, it's not like she's 0:02:19.540 --> 0:02:21.880 going to wake up and jump out the window and escape. 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.720 It is really bizarre. 0:02:24.220 --> 0:02:27.750 And then this thing last night, Pete Hegstaff announces that 0:02:28.590 --> 0:02:33.230 he wants to have a firing squad execution, which is 0:02:33.350 --> 0:02:37.880 possible in several different states. but to make it basically 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:43.540 public because it's going to be video played around the world. 0:02:44.410 --> 0:02:47.850 That is the thing now that's raising controversy this week. 0:02:48.410 --> 0:02:51.400 Do you personally think it's controversial? Talking, by the way, 0:02:51.410 --> 0:02:54.950 to Michael Radlett, he is Professor Emeritus from the University 0:02:54.970 --> 0:03:00.060 of Colorado Boulder, studying issues dealing with executions, the capital punishment, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.020 for the better part of 45 years. Is this over 0:03:03.060 --> 0:03:03.359 the top? 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:10.600 Well, everything related to the death penalty is controversial. This 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.839 is going to be litigated left and right. I'm not 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:18.140 sure that that execution, public execution, will go through. We'll 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.480 see what the Supreme Court has to say. And what 0:03:20.540 --> 0:03:23.690 is cruel and unusual today is not the same as 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.210 what was cruel and unusual yesterday or years ago. In 0:03:27.230 --> 0:03:31.730 the United States, we used to do public hangings. That 0:03:31.870 --> 0:03:38.580 ended in 1936. But they attracted huge crowds, thousands of people. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:44.280 The last one in Colorado was 1889, and there were 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.570 20,000 people there just before the invention of porta-potties. 0:03:48.610 --> 0:03:49.430 I don't know. 0:03:49.310 --> 0:03:53.310 How they did it. You went to sanitation. That wouldn't 0:03:53.330 --> 0:03:55.150 have even occurred to me. I was just thinking of 0:03:55.170 --> 0:03:58.170 the spectacle, but yeah, sanitation for that many people is 0:03:58.330 --> 0:04:02.390 a pretty serious thing. Was it entertainment? Was it educational? 0:04:02.930 --> 0:04:06.770 I've read about this, and it's all over the country 0:04:06.810 --> 0:04:09.530 at one time or another, it seems. There would be 0:04:09.630 --> 0:04:15.270 school let out, and teachers would bring school children to hangings, executions. 0:04:15.730 --> 0:04:19.810 Was that idea as a deterrent to say, see, act correct, 0:04:20.050 --> 0:04:21.750 or see what could happen to you, or what was 0:04:21.790 --> 0:04:22.430 the point of that? 0:04:23.450 --> 0:04:26.650 Yeah, in those days, the number one justification for the 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.050 death penalty was deterrent. We did not have life in 0:04:30.089 --> 0:04:34.450 prison at that time. No prisons were built that could 0:04:34.490 --> 0:04:37.570 hold somebody for 50 or 60 years like we have today. 0:04:38.650 --> 0:04:44.000 And so basically the option, the choice was between hanging 0:04:44.020 --> 0:04:49.200 the guy or a prison, relatively short prison sentence, maybe 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.919 10 years or so. So, but yeah, they attracted people 0:04:53.940 --> 0:04:56.660 from miles around. We had a bunch here in Colorado 0:04:56.820 --> 0:05:00.240 up in the mountains in the winter not much going 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.760 on up there, but this was great entertainment. But it 0:05:03.779 --> 0:05:07.140 was also thought to be a deterrent. The guy would 0:05:07.170 --> 0:05:10.070 be up on the scaffold and typically gave what was 0:05:10.150 --> 0:05:13.790 called an execution sermon. And what that meant is the 0:05:13.810 --> 0:05:17.150 guy would be alive, kept alive for as long as 0:05:17.170 --> 0:05:21.320 he could talk. He denounced alcohol, he denounced women, you know, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.140 all this kind of stuff, lessons that he'd learned. Sometimes 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:28.589 there was a choir singing at the base of the 0:05:28.630 --> 0:05:33.529 staff hold. And, you know, they were great public events, 0:05:33.589 --> 0:05:37.040 great entertainment. And I think Pete's head staff's idea to 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:42.320 have public executions again, I don't know if he's going 0:05:42.339 --> 0:05:45.620 to serve popcorn, but, you know, it's the same thing. 0:05:45.660 --> 0:05:46.560 Great entertainment. 0:05:46.580 --> 0:05:49.150 It's certainly not going to have any return effect. Nobody 0:05:49.650 --> 0:05:50.930 in their right mind would say that. 0:05:51.710 --> 0:05:55.469 Michael Radlitz, professor emeritus, University of Colorado, Boulder, with Sterling 0:05:55.470 --> 0:05:58.590 700 WLW, talking about the death penalty, the issue with 0:05:58.610 --> 0:06:01.530 Krista Pike. She's still around walking again, but probably not 0:06:01.570 --> 0:06:04.210 walking free. Can we backtrack to that before we get 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.180 to the issue of the public execution that's being talked 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.760 about in the firing squad? So she survived this. And 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.700 last week, tons of calls, tons of communicate with people 0:06:14.740 --> 0:06:17.860 on social media and everything else. And some people are saying, well, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.490 she should be set free. She survived it. Is there 0:06:21.650 --> 0:06:26.350 any type of precedent for that, or is it just, well, 0:06:26.450 --> 0:06:28.450 they're going to get her healed up again well enough 0:06:28.490 --> 0:06:30.950 to be able to try this again, which I am 0:06:30.990 --> 0:06:33.770 still bewildered at the fact that we have prisons filled 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.800 with convicted murderers. If you look at the news across 0:06:36.860 --> 0:06:42.300 this nation, however statistically low violent crime has been historically 0:06:42.339 --> 0:06:46.380 at this point, relatively speaking, we are still pretty good 0:06:46.500 --> 0:06:49.680 at killing each other in these United States. So as 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.380 we look at this, where does she stand, do you think? 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.680 Are they going to they will try again? Is that 0:06:54.740 --> 0:06:58.550 cruel and unusual for mental capacity issues and her navigating this? 0:06:59.150 --> 0:07:01.469 And is it retribution for the family or how does 0:07:01.490 --> 0:07:02.370 this play out, do you think? 0:07:03.380 --> 0:07:05.860 Well, I would certainly call it cruel and unusual. She's 0:07:05.900 --> 0:07:09.080 already served, I think, 20 years or something in prison. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.560 And if her sentence is commuted, she's still going to 0:07:12.610 --> 0:07:15.330 die in prison. There's no question about that. She's got 0:07:15.390 --> 0:07:18.950 life without parole in a best case scenario. The question 0:07:19.010 --> 0:07:22.870 is whether or not we're going to spend additional millions 0:07:22.930 --> 0:07:23.390 trying to. 0:07:23.370 --> 0:07:25.160 Get her back on the ground again. And I do 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.240 mean millions. 0:07:26.260 --> 0:07:28.980 There's going to be litigation up the wazoo on this 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:33.000 left and right with people arguing it's cruel and unusual punishment. 0:07:33.500 --> 0:07:36.960 Experts coming in to talk about what the problem was, 0:07:37.020 --> 0:07:38.290 why she wasn't killed. 0:07:38.900 --> 0:07:41.450 Investigations. I think the. 0:07:41.390 --> 0:07:48.900 Drugs were weak drugs. it's real difficult for manufacturers to 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:54.860 sell their drugs to be used in executions. So the 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.700 state's buying on secondary markets, and oftentimes they lack the 0:07:59.820 --> 0:08:04.130 quality as drugs bought directly from a manufacturer. So, you know, 0:08:04.150 --> 0:08:05.190 there are a lot of people who are going to 0:08:05.210 --> 0:08:09.390 make a ton of money testifying one way or the other. So, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.000 If we're talking about prison overcrowding, the best thing we 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.320 can do is get rid of the death penalty and 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.960 re-sentence all these people to life imprisonment and save lots 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.780 of money. Prison guards are a lot cheaper than lawyers. 0:08:24.620 --> 0:08:29.720 Yeah, that's true. That's for sure. As we look at 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.160 this internationally, before we get to the idea of the 0:08:33.500 --> 0:08:37.510 public execution concept and firing squad that the U.S. federal 0:08:37.550 --> 0:08:39.350 governments are looking to do here in a few months, 0:08:40.059 --> 0:08:44.800 But across the world, executions still take place. They do 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.080 it publicly in some places. They behead people. In the 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.699 states previously, there have been, what, firing squads, hangings. I 0:08:51.740 --> 0:08:53.960 think at one time or another, they did behead people, 0:08:53.980 --> 0:08:55.720 be it by guillotine or something else. I don't think 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.280 it was very common. Firing squads, they used to gas 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.619 people at one point in time. I don't know if 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.360 I've left anything out. You spent 45 years studying this, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.319 Professor Meredith, University of Colorado Boulder, Michael Radlett. Where does 0:09:08.380 --> 0:09:11.280 this fit in internationally? And are we moving in one 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:16.280 direction or another? I don't know where we are as 0:09:16.330 --> 0:09:19.290 humans and if there's a benefit to this or otherwise. 0:09:20.670 --> 0:09:24.570 Well, really quickly, when I got into the business in 1977, 0:09:24.570 --> 0:09:29.429 there were 16 countries around the world that abolished the 0:09:29.490 --> 0:09:29.930 death penalty. 0:09:31.020 --> 0:09:31.920 Right now, there's 145. 0:09:31.900 --> 0:09:37.160 I mean, there's been greater change in death penalty stuff 0:09:37.179 --> 0:09:40.590 than any other social program that I know of. I mean, 0:09:40.610 --> 0:09:45.429 it's just been phenomenal. No country in Europe, every country 0:09:45.450 --> 0:09:48.730 in South America has abolished the death penalty. That goes 0:09:48.850 --> 0:09:52.190 on and on and on. And there are other countries 0:09:52.230 --> 0:09:55.550 that are about to abolish the death penalty. In the 0:09:55.590 --> 0:10:01.520 United States, we think, you know, mom, dad, apple pie, executions, 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.840 we all love it. But that's not true either. There 0:10:05.860 --> 0:10:08.900 have been a dozen states just in the last 12 0:10:08.900 --> 0:10:11.570 years that have abolished the death penalty in the United States. 0:10:12.110 --> 0:10:16.170 And Ohio has got a pretty likely chance of abolishing 0:10:16.190 --> 0:10:18.970 the death penalty within the next year or two. So 0:10:19.090 --> 0:10:21.030 it's really, you know, the trend is away from the 0:10:21.070 --> 0:10:24.330 death penalty. And even in the United States, executions are 0:10:24.370 --> 0:10:30.850 confined to a few outlier states. Most recently, Florida. Half 0:10:30.870 --> 0:10:34.780 the executions today are in Florida. It used to be 0:10:34.820 --> 0:10:41.000 Texas and also states like Alabama. But so even the 0:10:41.020 --> 0:10:42.939 death penalty in the United States seems to be on 0:10:42.980 --> 0:10:43.440 the way out. 0:10:43.820 --> 0:10:45.490 Public support is down. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.260 When I got in the business, 80% of the population 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.640 supported the death penalty, according to Gallup, and that's now 0:10:53.660 --> 0:10:55.540 down to 52%. 0:10:55.540 --> 0:10:58.640 From 80% to 52%. I mean, think about that. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.000 Why do you think that is? 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.900 Well, in part it's because the churches are getting more involved. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.390 There's more religious opposition to the death penalty. Pope Leo, 0:11:07.410 --> 0:11:12.750 for example, head of the biggest religious denomination in the country, 0:11:12.790 --> 0:11:17.110 and certainly the biggest religion in Cincinnati, is firmly opposed 0:11:17.150 --> 0:11:21.320 to the death penalty, and with no exceptions. 0:11:21.700 --> 0:11:23.560 It's kind of interesting, because it used to be. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.620 The Catholic Church said, well, you know, only for the 0:11:26.660 --> 0:11:29.560 worst of the worst, and that was not working. But 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.280 that was as recently as 15 years ago, the Church 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.449 did have, they did say that For the worst of 0:11:36.490 --> 0:11:40.300 the worst, we could allow executions. But now, Pope Francis 0:11:40.380 --> 0:11:43.880 and now Pope Leo absolutely firmly oppose the death penalty. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.920 And most other Christian denominations have followed in suit. Jewish denominations, 0:11:48.980 --> 0:11:51.900 I mean, it's really across the board that there's religious 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.730 opposition to the death penalty. And I might add one 0:11:55.770 --> 0:11:59.790 more thing. Public executions, of course, the rationale is deterrence. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:04.240 There is not a criminologist anywhere who today is arguing 0:12:04.260 --> 0:12:06.940 that death penalty is a greater deterrent than life imprisonment 0:12:06.980 --> 0:12:12.260 without parole. It's kind of like if you haven't discouraged 0:12:12.300 --> 0:12:15.040 your kid from sitting on the stove with median heat, 0:12:16.660 --> 0:12:19.090 no sense turning it up to high heat. High heat 0:12:19.150 --> 0:12:21.189 works just as well as median heat if you don't 0:12:21.210 --> 0:12:22.590 want the kid to sit on the stove. 0:12:23.190 --> 0:12:26.110 That does make some sense, I have to admit. Michael Radlitz, 0:12:26.130 --> 0:12:28.709 the professor mayor at the University of Colorado Boulder, talking 0:12:28.730 --> 0:12:32.170 about the death penalty issues. The firing squad that's been 0:12:32.210 --> 0:12:36.090 talked about, the Department of Justice, federal government, and issues 0:12:36.450 --> 0:12:41.090 dealing with that moving ahead. If this were to go through, 0:12:41.210 --> 0:12:43.080 do we know the rules and how that works? They 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:48.080 were talking about using classic weapons from the past in 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.859 that type of scenario. I don't know what the ins 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.500 and outs of it. It used to be you'd have 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.980 an executioner group, like say at Lucasville here at Southern 0:12:56.020 --> 0:12:58.120 Ohio Correction Institute when I was a kid. I remember 0:12:58.570 --> 0:13:00.490 reading and hearing about it in the news. You'd have 0:13:00.530 --> 0:13:02.929 a couple of people hitting the button so that no 0:13:02.990 --> 0:13:05.510 one would have to weigh the burden necessarily knowing for 0:13:05.580 --> 0:13:07.460 sure it was them who put someone to death, but 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.059 it might be them or their two other buddies. But 0:13:10.500 --> 0:13:12.280 still knowing that you're one of those people has to 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.640 be hard and something that you have to carry with you. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.540 What do we know about that in relation to the 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.699 federal government issue, military issue, and everything else when it 0:13:21.740 --> 0:13:24.510 comes to, say, treason or attack on U.S. and so on? 0:13:24.540 --> 0:13:27.130 Because it does seem to get deep pretty fast historically 0:13:27.230 --> 0:13:29.880 and moving ahead now because- There's one in front of us. 0:13:30.910 --> 0:13:31.189 Yes. 0:13:31.570 --> 0:13:34.890 So the public knows as much about this as the 0:13:35.070 --> 0:13:38.280 authorities who will carry out the execution. They haven't figured 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.820 it out yet. It might not take them all that long. 0:13:41.220 --> 0:13:45.760 But typically in a firing squad, there is an odd 0:13:45.860 --> 0:13:51.050 number of people with rifles, three or five and something 0:13:51.070 --> 0:13:53.589 like that. And one or two of those people are 0:13:53.630 --> 0:13:58.209 firing blanks. That's because they worry that down the line, 0:13:58.820 --> 0:14:02.100 You know, two years, five years after the execution, they 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.699 don't want people waking up and realizing, oh, my God, 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.040 I killed somebody and, you know, all that kind of mess. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:12.700 So they want at least one or two of the 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.590 riflemen to fire a blank so that they can convince 0:14:16.630 --> 0:14:19.470 themselves that it wasn't their bullet that killed them. 0:14:21.910 --> 0:14:26.190 What have I not asked? about this circumstance and where 0:14:26.230 --> 0:14:28.430 we are right now. I mean, I've talked to some 0:14:28.470 --> 0:14:31.010 people either in conversation here on the big one or 0:14:31.090 --> 0:14:33.130 just out in life in the big sandbox that we 0:14:33.190 --> 0:14:36.390 all live in. And it seems to be a very 0:14:36.430 --> 0:14:39.400 passionate issue on either side of the coin for people. 0:14:40.100 --> 0:14:44.440 I know about the cost associated with, you know, case 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.700 after case and And an opportunity for appeal in the 0:14:47.740 --> 0:14:50.460 process is very costly to put someone to death, significantly 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.220 cheaper to house them forever until their natural end or 0:14:53.260 --> 0:14:57.120 otherwise in a prison situation. But there's so many other 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.400 layers to this, I ask you, because you've spent longer 0:15:00.460 --> 0:15:02.780 than I've not been alive studying it. 0:15:04.580 --> 0:15:07.880 Well, I think the big question facing our generation today 0:15:07.900 --> 0:15:12.950 is how much punishment is enough. There's not enough punishment 0:15:12.990 --> 0:15:16.630 to bring back a murder victim, that's never going to happen. 0:15:17.910 --> 0:15:20.080 On the other hand, if we ask families of homicide 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.820 victims what they would prefer, it turns out that in 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.600 the United States today, half of all homicides aren't even 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.940 solved by the cops. So if you ask the families 0:15:29.980 --> 0:15:32.600 of homicide victims where to put the money, instead of 0:15:32.660 --> 0:15:37.000 spending millions for execution, they would prefer spending money on 0:15:37.110 --> 0:15:40.630 cold case squads and figuring out who murdered their loved one. 0:15:41.370 --> 0:15:44.870 So that's one issue that we've got. And the second issue, 0:15:45.290 --> 0:15:47.970 given that we can never bring the life back, when 0:15:48.010 --> 0:15:50.170 will people call it quits? I was down in Miami 0:15:51.050 --> 0:15:55.750 earlier this year at a prison that basically held nothing 0:15:55.790 --> 0:16:00.800 but people doing life. And it was like a gerontology, 0:16:00.820 --> 0:16:05.040 gerontocracy of old people walking around with, you know, poles 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.920 and bags of stuff on the pole and You know, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.300 old people, you know, not at all dangerous at all, 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.400 but people with no hope and people who are living 0:16:14.500 --> 0:16:17.850 miserable lives. So I think that we have to realize 0:16:17.910 --> 0:16:20.690 and learn more about life without parole and realize that 0:16:20.790 --> 0:16:26.250 life without parole is a miserable existence. About 10% of 0:16:26.270 --> 0:16:30.480 those executed today drop their appeals and ask to be executed. 0:16:30.500 --> 0:16:33.440 They'd rather be dead than live their life in prison. So, 0:16:33.620 --> 0:16:35.420 you know, what is enough enough? 0:16:37.250 --> 0:16:39.730 It gets very deep, and I've had other people mention 0:16:39.750 --> 0:16:41.870 that very thing to me just in the last couple 0:16:41.910 --> 0:16:43.890 of days. They say, well, if they're asking for it, 0:16:43.890 --> 0:16:45.950 then you don't give it to them. It's a very 0:16:46.190 --> 0:16:51.240 odd psychological thing for those that are survivors of victims 0:16:51.980 --> 0:16:54.180 as well as those that are survivors of those who 0:16:54.220 --> 0:16:57.380 have committed heinous crimes. And then, of course, the question 0:16:57.420 --> 0:16:59.600 also that goes back to, say, the Innocence Project, which 0:16:59.620 --> 0:17:02.119 they do work here in Cincinnati. When I was in 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.300 New Orleans, there was a guy at Angola. that was 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:06.680 locked away, and they weren't even going to let that 0:17:06.700 --> 0:17:09.560 guy out, as I understand it, if my memory serves correctly, 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.480 until he agreed not to sue them because they had 0:17:11.500 --> 0:17:15.379 wrongfully institutionalized and convicted him. So, I mean, again, how 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:20.260 many innocent people do you execute and it's okay? Because 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.080 that's happened, too. In short order, do we know how 0:17:22.140 --> 0:17:26.500 many documented innocent people have been put to death in 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.260 an execution situation in the United States? 0:17:29.300 --> 0:17:33.550 Well, that, too, is controversial, what is documented being. There 0:17:33.590 --> 0:17:34.929 are arguments that you know. 0:17:35.690 --> 0:17:36.350 Lots and lots. 0:17:36.650 --> 0:17:40.930 We do know that there have been 202 people released 0:17:41.010 --> 0:17:45.210 from America's death rows since 1972. That's the modern era 0:17:45.230 --> 0:17:49.419 of the death penalty. 202 people released from death rows 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.040 when it was discovered that they were innocent. So, you know, 0:17:53.060 --> 0:17:56.220 we make these blunders, you know, we can't do a 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.359 proper lethal injection, but we also blow it when we 0:18:00.380 --> 0:18:05.709 sentence innocent people And that happens with regularity, and it 0:18:06.710 --> 0:18:08.110 always has and always will. 0:18:08.970 --> 0:18:13.340 It's a very interesting situation, and it's deep on a 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.160 whole lot of levels. I really appreciate you making time 0:18:16.220 --> 0:18:19.300 to share your insights and experience doing this, some 40 0:18:19.300 --> 0:18:23.869 years of researching. Professor Meredith from the University of Colorado Boulder, 0:18:23.900 --> 0:18:26.550 Michael Radlett, thank you very much for making time. And 0:18:26.609 --> 0:18:28.030 I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. Take 0:18:28.050 --> 0:18:28.490 care of yourself. 0:18:28.690 --> 0:18:29.470 My pleasure. 0:18:29.830 --> 0:18:30.210 Take again. 0:18:30.570 --> 0:18:30.910 Thank you. 0:18:31.270 --> 0:18:34.830 Thanks for allowing us to talk about this. 0:18:35.150 --> 0:18:36.090 I enjoy the conversation. 0:18:36.109 --> 0:18:36.449 Thank you, man. 0:18:36.690 --> 0:18:39.200 I appreciate it. We'll catch up again soon. The 930 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.820 Report is straight away. We got Trax coming up. You 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.940 heard him earlier. We'll talk to him about who day 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.780 on the road, the journey to Miami to face those 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.080 dolphins and more. It's a Friday, Sterling. Also, we'll talk 0:18:52.140 --> 0:18:56.139 legal weed issues. And the question is, are kids smoking 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.310 less weed and doing less drugs since it's become legal 0:18:59.390 --> 0:19:03.109 recreationally and medicinally in Ohio and across the country? That's 0:19:03.190 --> 0:19:05.770 later also here with Sterling, where the Who Day play 0:19:05.810 --> 0:19:09.970 comes Sunday, 1 o'clock in Miami. Here, 700 WLW Cincinnati. 0:19:11.420 --> 0:19:16.770 I don't know. January, February, Miami Super Bowl bound seems 0:19:16.810 --> 0:19:19.709 a little more gratifying than going now. But if you 0:19:19.750 --> 0:19:22.100 go down to Miami for the weekend, you can check 0:19:22.140 --> 0:19:24.700 out the Bengals beat the Dolphins. You can enjoy some 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.600 South Florida activities. Trags, Mike Petraglia. He was here earlier, 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.159 and I didn't look at the schedule, and I apologize 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:31.840 about this, Mike. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:33.300 Seriously? 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:33.719 Seriously. 0:19:33.740 --> 0:19:36.120 Sterling? Listen, listen. I got to tell you right now. 0:19:36.700 --> 0:19:39.290 I text you, and then I'm driving, and I hear it. 0:19:39.310 --> 0:19:41.010 I'm like, did I look at the schedule? I wasn't 0:19:41.050 --> 0:19:43.010 trying to, like, make you do too much, and I 0:19:43.050 --> 0:19:44.990 know you're headed out of town. Holy crap. Thank you 0:19:45.010 --> 0:19:46.310 for making time. How are you? 0:19:47.570 --> 0:19:48.889 I'm doing great, Sterling. 0:19:49.150 --> 0:19:49.700 You know what, Ty? 0:19:50.300 --> 0:19:58.149 Is impeccable because I just finished my preview for Sunday's 0:19:58.210 --> 0:20:01.170 game in Miami. Preview and prediction, what to look for. 0:20:02.390 --> 0:20:05.899 It's up on CLNS since the with a wide.com. So 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.100 be sure to check that out. 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.900 There you go. All right. So I have to ask here, 0:20:10.260 --> 0:20:13.520 is this an opportunity for the Bengals to correct themselves, 0:20:13.580 --> 0:20:16.400 to find their way, whether it's the under center from 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:20.189 the shotgun, whether they've got depth at wide receiver, can 0:20:20.210 --> 0:20:23.470 they go into Miami and just basically tune up? Or 0:20:23.530 --> 0:20:25.590 is this one of those where I might be Sunday 0:20:25.630 --> 0:20:28.450 where I'm like grabbing where my hair used to grow 0:20:28.510 --> 0:20:31.820 on my head and just putting in my hands and going, 0:20:31.900 --> 0:20:32.780 how and why? 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.020 Okay, here's what the Bengals need to do. 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:37.960 They need to get off to a clean start. 0:20:38.580 --> 0:20:41.060 They need to let their best players be their best 0:20:41.140 --> 0:20:45.320 players early against a Miami team that's clearly rebuilding. 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.540 They can't let Malik Willis, regardless of what Jordan. 0:20:49.220 --> 0:20:51.980 Battle said this week about his padding the ball, they 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:56.139 can't let him run outside the pocket, extend plays, play 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:59.880 street yard football against the Bengals and catch the Bengals 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.510 out of position on defense, especially when at the second 0:21:03.550 --> 0:21:07.040 and third levels. We know how good the Bengals defensive 0:21:07.100 --> 0:21:10.159 front is after it was rebuilt in the off season. 0:21:10.180 --> 0:21:11.080 They've been terrific. 0:21:12.660 --> 0:21:15.560 The linebackers and the secondary, especially the safeties need to 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:19.879 be much better. And this is a game where if 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:24.770 they play their fundamentals correctly and properly, they get a 0:21:24.810 --> 0:21:29.190 lead on Miami and then, you know, start to grind 0:21:29.230 --> 0:21:31.670 away in the heat against the dolphins. 0:21:31.790 --> 0:21:34.270 That's, to me, the formula for success. 0:21:34.410 --> 0:21:39.879 Whether or not they're successful under center, throwing the ball downfield, 0:21:39.940 --> 0:21:44.060 running the ball 25 times, to me, that's immaterial. It's 0:21:44.260 --> 0:21:47.580 how they look to start this game. How clean is 0:21:47.619 --> 0:21:52.510 their operation after their offensive line has struggled with procedure 0:21:52.530 --> 0:21:54.140 penalties in the last couple of weeks? 0:21:54.850 --> 0:21:57.250 It's tough talking to Mike Petraglia. You know him as Trax. Actually, 0:21:57.270 --> 0:21:59.290 you can find him on X, which will tell you 0:21:59.410 --> 0:22:02.590 everywhere else he is, too, because he is everywhere. It 0:22:02.630 --> 0:22:06.300 was Sterling here on the big one. Sunday, 1 o'clock, Miami. Bengals, 0:22:06.340 --> 0:22:10.100 Dolphins getting it on. 2-2 Bengals. A no for Miami 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:15.640 Dolphins team. Chase Higgins. Was it Bozeman? The Colby kid, Young. 0:22:16.420 --> 0:22:18.940 And I'm thinking somebody else, right? These are all guys. 0:22:18.980 --> 0:22:19.760 And Brian Cook. 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:20.460 Brian Cook. 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.530 Brian Cook on the defensive side of the ball, yes. 0:22:23.570 --> 0:22:26.630 So all these guys at this point are iffy or 0:22:26.650 --> 0:22:28.750 maybe not going to see a whole lot of time, 0:22:28.810 --> 0:22:32.140 if at all. So what does this mean for those? 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:33.820 And I heard you talking about it a little bit earlier, 0:22:34.220 --> 0:22:37.000 but I'm just curious. I mean, this is an opportunity 0:22:37.020 --> 0:22:39.300 for some guys to get some time they wouldn't, but 0:22:39.340 --> 0:22:42.180 this could also either build their confidence or crush them 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:44.000 emotionally and physically. 0:22:46.260 --> 0:22:48.560 I don't think it will crush a guy like Dante Myers. 0:22:48.660 --> 0:22:53.340 He knows he belongs. He's got a terrific attitude. And 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.720 I think the Bengals have an opportunity to get him 0:22:56.500 --> 0:22:59.650 quite a few more reps in this game. I know 0:22:59.710 --> 0:23:03.830 there are varying opinions on this, but if you can't 0:23:03.910 --> 0:23:07.730 beat the Miami Dolphins without T. Higgins and give him, 0:23:07.750 --> 0:23:13.119 he's got a soft tissue issue. If you can't beat 0:23:13.650 --> 0:23:16.960 the Dolphins without T. Higgins getting this week off and 0:23:16.980 --> 0:23:19.730 getting the bye week off, then you're not a You're 0:23:19.770 --> 0:23:23.210 not the team, the championship caliber team that everybody thought 0:23:23.250 --> 0:23:25.550 you were and you thought you were coming into the year. 0:23:26.670 --> 0:23:30.190 That being said, I think Jamar Chase definitely plays, assuming 0:23:30.619 --> 0:23:32.520 he clears protocol tomorrow. 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:34.359 I would expect him to play. 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:38.619 He looked like he was at full speed today in practice, 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:43.060 and I would expect Brian Cook to play. Again, he 0:23:43.100 --> 0:23:47.740 was a full participant in practice today, and. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.750 He was doing everything in the individual drills. Before team period, 0:23:50.990 --> 0:23:52.230 when we get kicked out. 0:23:53.270 --> 0:23:58.909 So everything that we saw with our eyes leads me 0:23:58.950 --> 0:24:02.170 to believe that Brian Cook and Jamar Chase will play. 0:24:03.109 --> 0:24:05.350 I think they're going to play it safe on T. 0:24:05.410 --> 0:24:09.860 Higgins based on his injury history. But we'll wait and see. 0:24:09.900 --> 0:24:13.300 Maybe they feel like they need every weapon at their 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.960 disposal to beat Miami. I just don't think they do. 0:24:15.980 --> 0:24:20.160 I would hope they don't. I mean, I think Jamar Chase, 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.570 Colby Young is the other player you mentioned. I think 0:24:23.619 --> 0:24:27.490 he makes a return from an issue. He, again, I 0:24:28.130 --> 0:24:31.650 believe he was a full participant today. I think he's 0:24:31.710 --> 0:24:35.150 certainly leaning towards playing. Again, how much, I don't know. 0:24:35.170 --> 0:24:37.750 I think they would like to get up early. That's 0:24:37.810 --> 0:24:41.330 why getting up early in this game, Sterling, is so important. 0:24:41.609 --> 0:24:44.650 Because you can dictate the snaps, the. 0:24:44.650 --> 0:24:48.580 Reps, who you want to play and when. how much, 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:49.399 all of. 0:24:49.420 --> 0:24:52.780 That, if you dictate the terms of the game the 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:57.290 way it's played. If this game is like 14-10, like 0:24:57.330 --> 0:25:00.070 it was with the Chiefs and Dolphins, I think that 0:25:00.090 --> 0:25:03.970 was week one, then the Bengals have a problem. And 0:25:04.130 --> 0:25:07.609 I'm not saying that the Dolphins won't battle you tough 0:25:07.650 --> 0:25:10.939 in the heat, and we could talk about that. I'm 0:25:10.980 --> 0:25:14.480 not saying that they won't, but the Bengals need to 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.610 make sure that they dictate the terms of the way 0:25:17.650 --> 0:25:18.590 this game is played. 0:25:18.690 --> 0:25:22.250 How much will that heat and that humidity, although this 0:25:22.330 --> 0:25:24.910 is Ohio, it's cooled off the last week or two, 0:25:24.990 --> 0:25:27.970 relatively speaking, but South Florida heat and humidity is a 0:25:28.010 --> 0:25:30.030 little bit different. I think it's supposed to maybe storm 0:25:30.050 --> 0:25:32.330 a little bit as well, which may or may not 0:25:32.369 --> 0:25:35.369 be good football. So that's what, super hydration issues, worrying 0:25:35.410 --> 0:25:37.250 about cramping and other stuff too, Trax? 0:25:38.490 --> 0:25:38.790 Right. 0:25:39.109 --> 0:25:42.510 And, you know, this is an issue that Demetrius Knight Jr. 0:25:42.810 --> 0:25:45.810 had in week number one against Tampa Bay. They were 0:25:45.869 --> 0:25:50.109 aware of that, cognizant of that. So Zach Taylor said, 0:25:50.130 --> 0:25:54.169 and Al Golden said, last week when he came out 0:25:54.250 --> 0:25:57.390 for a series and Oren Burks went in at linebacker, 0:25:57.710 --> 0:26:01.390 they said they're just trying to keep Demetrius Knight Jr. 0:26:01.550 --> 0:26:02.190 Hydrated. 0:26:02.890 --> 0:26:05.409 And we take him at his word that there's no 0:26:05.470 --> 0:26:07.869 funny business going on there, that there were other reasons 0:26:07.910 --> 0:26:10.379 he was on the sideline. But he is somebody I 0:26:10.390 --> 0:26:13.200 would keep a close eye on on Sunday if he 0:26:13.260 --> 0:26:17.129 was having hydration issues. A lot of players are going 0:26:17.150 --> 0:26:22.109 to have their conditioning tested on Sunday. One other thing, 0:26:22.130 --> 0:26:26.600 the Zach Taylor tough camp that he put the team 0:26:26.630 --> 0:26:30.160 through in July and August should pay dividends this weekend 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:34.980 in Miami. The Bengals had a particularly hard, hot camp. 0:26:35.740 --> 0:26:38.820 And you would hope that that pays off Sunday in Miami. 0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:42.800 Most definitely. You can read him, Mike Metralia. You can 0:26:42.859 --> 0:26:48.240 hear him, ESPN 1530, here on the big one, clnscincy.com, 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:51.740 and also the Jungle War podcast. Man, you're all over 0:26:51.790 --> 0:26:53.710 the place, which is tremendous. And I really appreciate you 0:26:53.750 --> 0:26:57.530 making time. As we look at this, and you talk 0:26:57.570 --> 0:27:01.910 about Higgins and the soft tissue issue, and the fact 0:27:01.950 --> 0:27:04.760 that obviously you hope that they can rest him, which 0:27:04.900 --> 0:27:07.300 is a huge benefit down the line for this Bengals 0:27:07.340 --> 0:27:11.240 team and for him personally. But the other thing that 0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.080 was disturbing to me, and you've covered NFL football for 0:27:14.140 --> 0:27:18.520 quite a while, the Jamar Chase issue. issue with the 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.160 face mask and yanking the head and the concussion. I'm 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:26.000 telling you, it was disturbing for me to watch. It 0:27:26.060 --> 0:27:29.470 bothered me. And I know I'm a reporter and all 0:27:29.510 --> 0:27:30.530 of that. I get that. 0:27:31.450 --> 0:27:34.090 The face mask, and I talked to Dax Hill after 0:27:34.109 --> 0:27:34.910 the game about this. 0:27:34.970 --> 0:27:36.369 He's a cornerback, obviously. 0:27:36.910 --> 0:27:40.210 And the instinct to grab the face mask is understandable. 0:27:40.619 --> 0:27:43.960 You're on an island with maybe the best receiver in 0:27:43.980 --> 0:27:47.300 the NFL. You're, you're desperate there. You're grabbing anything to 0:27:47.369 --> 0:27:48.290 slow the guy down. 0:27:48.950 --> 0:27:51.570 That part of it. I get as bad as it looked. 0:27:51.590 --> 0:27:54.389 I get that. That was a football play. What happened 0:27:54.510 --> 0:27:57.430 after that was not a football play. And I just 0:27:57.530 --> 0:28:06.840 expected more vehement anger, like, like a guttural reaction from 0:28:06.859 --> 0:28:09.380 the Bengals defending tomorrow. 0:28:09.780 --> 0:28:11.670 And, Zach Taylor said. 0:28:12.230 --> 0:28:15.030 I think it was a borderline play, wasn't the greatest 0:28:15.070 --> 0:28:15.770 thing in the world. 0:28:16.230 --> 0:28:18.570 But he kind of bit his tongue, and I don't. 0:28:18.890 --> 0:28:22.169 Really know why in that particular case. Because you're talking 0:28:22.210 --> 0:28:26.410 about one of your key star players getting his head 0:28:26.510 --> 0:28:30.210 bounced off the turf like a basketball. And I just 0:28:30.250 --> 0:28:38.200 think it was a dirty play by the Jacksonville linebacker, Miller, 0:28:38.260 --> 0:28:39.200 I believe his name was. 0:28:40.690 --> 0:28:44.440 Yeah, and it was very violent. 0:28:45.180 --> 0:28:49.400 And even if it were a football play, when one 0:28:49.420 --> 0:28:52.580 of your guys gets laid out on the turf, there 0:28:52.620 --> 0:28:54.940 needs to be an answer. Whether or not it was 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:58.300 a football play, you need to deliver a message that 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.880 when one of our guys gets hurt on a dirty 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.240 play like that, we're. 0:29:03.100 --> 0:29:08.520 Going to respond to it. And that bothered me. 0:29:08.790 --> 0:29:10.729 No, it bothered me too. Even just seeing it, let 0:29:10.750 --> 0:29:12.480 alone the replay, it made me sick to my stomach. 0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.740 And then to go back to what you're saying, Mike, 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.660 it was like, come on, there needs to be some 0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.160 type of retribution, which leads me to something else, which 0:29:20.180 --> 0:29:21.580 I didn't ask you about, but I'm going to do 0:29:21.620 --> 0:29:24.810 it now. Legend Mike Ditka, if you are of a 0:29:24.870 --> 0:29:27.470 certain age, and I was a child at the time, 0:29:27.870 --> 0:29:30.800 When the Bears were something and there was the fridge 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.780 and Ditka was boss and before he was doing TV 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.270 and everything else and their kids 35 years old don't 0:29:36.290 --> 0:29:41.000 know that guy. How big of a footprint in the 0:29:41.100 --> 0:29:44.960 league and in the business of pro football, for those 0:29:44.980 --> 0:29:47.960 who don't know, is Mike Ditka from your opinion in 0:29:48.020 --> 0:29:48.480 view of this? 0:29:50.270 --> 0:29:54.390 So unabashed, unapologetic. I said this about an hour ago 0:29:54.490 --> 0:29:57.370 on my show. That's the one thing I will always 0:29:57.410 --> 0:30:00.950 remember about Mike Ditka. He did things his way, you know, 0:30:01.010 --> 0:30:05.430 the old Frank Sinatra song, but it really fits the style. 0:30:05.010 --> 0:30:05.950 Of Mike Ditka. 0:30:06.710 --> 0:30:09.890 And he didn't care that sometimes he would get into 0:30:09.930 --> 0:30:14.200 it with his defensive coordinator, Buddy Ryan, and that there 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:19.560 would be a public spat and sometimes ugly spat. He 0:30:19.620 --> 0:30:22.360 just said, this is my team and I'm going to 0:30:22.420 --> 0:30:25.510 run my team the way I see fit. And nobody's 0:30:25.550 --> 0:30:28.230 going to tell me otherwise, including my own coaching staff. 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:34.610 And he left no doubt among his players how he 0:30:34.650 --> 0:30:37.770 wanted the game played. And if a strategy or a 0:30:37.810 --> 0:30:42.670 game plan for a certain opponent called for this particular 0:30:43.750 --> 0:30:46.370 method to be played on the field, that's the. 0:30:46.330 --> 0:30:47.229 Way he wanted the game played. 0:30:48.070 --> 0:30:51.420 That's what I'll remember about Mike Ditka. And, you know, 0:30:51.460 --> 0:30:54.080 he was great at the university of Pittsburgh, but he 0:30:54.140 --> 0:30:57.220 learned so much from Tom Landry when he came into 0:30:57.260 --> 0:31:00.480 the league with the Cowboys on some great Cowboy teams 0:31:00.570 --> 0:31:04.210 of the late sixties. And, um, you know, he was 0:31:04.290 --> 0:31:07.850 just someone who, you know, we talk about Bob Trumpy 0:31:07.930 --> 0:31:12.040 revolutionizing the tight end position and he certainly did the 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:16.290 West coast offense. Mike, Ditka did the same for the 0:31:16.390 --> 0:31:20.510 60s tight end right before Bob Trumpy got into the NFL. 0:31:20.590 --> 0:31:22.990 And so I would say, you know, Mike Ditka and 0:31:23.030 --> 0:31:28.250 Bob Trumpy were two revolutionary figures, not only for the 0:31:28.290 --> 0:31:28.870 tight end. 0:31:28.750 --> 0:31:32.890 Position, but in Ditka's case for the coaching position as well. 0:31:33.030 --> 0:31:35.970 Great perspective and insights. I really do appreciate you making 0:31:36.010 --> 0:31:39.770 time and especially quick turnaround. He's Trags on X. He 0:31:39.830 --> 0:31:42.790 is also at Jungle Roar Podcast, which you may already 0:31:42.830 --> 0:31:45.470 check out. And then you can hear predictions and everything else. 0:31:45.610 --> 0:31:49.750 Column just up there, clnscincy.com. Anything else before I let 0:31:49.770 --> 0:31:51.910 you bounce into the rest of this weekend and the 0:31:51.950 --> 0:31:55.320 journey to Miami? Bengals, Dolphins, Sunday, 1 o'clock, big one. 0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.640 Best Bengals coverage here because, you know, they play here, Trax. 0:31:58.980 --> 0:32:01.060 Yeah, I'm aware of that. I just want to get 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.120 down there, Sterling. I want to get down there safe 0:32:04.180 --> 0:32:06.650 and sound. And once I'm down there, don't care about 0:32:06.690 --> 0:32:09.770 the heat, the weather, the rain, whatever. Just want to 0:32:09.810 --> 0:32:13.380 get down there safe and sound tomorrow morning. and then 0:32:13.740 --> 0:32:17.459 enjoy some football on Sunday. It's a big game for 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.470 the Bengals, and I would expect them to come out accordingly. 0:32:21.830 --> 0:32:24.030 I hope they do. The journey to Miami is ahead 0:32:24.070 --> 0:32:26.330 for Traggs and a whole lot of others as well. 0:32:26.390 --> 0:32:28.970 Mike Petraglia, thank you so much for making time. Appreciate it, 0:32:29.130 --> 0:32:32.440 and hopefully we'll talk about a who-day-when after Sunday. Take 0:32:32.460 --> 0:32:32.880 care of yourself. 0:32:33.060 --> 0:32:33.880 You got it, Sterling. 0:32:33.900 --> 0:32:36.500 Get yourself a Cuban sandwich down there and some good food. 0:32:36.700 --> 0:32:37.340 I've heard. 0:32:37.820 --> 0:32:39.760 Yes, I've heard about the Cubans down there. 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:40.640 Good food. 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:41.480 Cuban sandwiches. 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:42.620 Yes, yes, yes, yes. 0:32:43.060 --> 0:32:46.000 All right, man. I'll talk to you later. Quick break. 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.860 Come back more, Sterling. The weekend is here. Appreciate you 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.420 joining us and spend a little bit of time as well. 0:32:52.010 --> 0:32:54.890 Later on, Morgan Fox, he's the political director of the 0:32:54.930 --> 0:33:01.350 National Organization for Normal. And talking about the reasonable, rational 0:33:01.430 --> 0:33:06.210 marijuana laws and changes in consumption issues with teenagers and 0:33:06.230 --> 0:33:09.890 the legalization of the icky sticky, as some people call it, 0:33:10.090 --> 0:33:14.120 the marijuana, the cannabis, whatever it is. That's after 10 o'clock. 0:33:14.130 --> 0:33:16.540 Hang out. There's more to do. It's Sterling on a 0:33:16.580 --> 0:33:21.459 Friday night. Bengals on the road in Miami Sunday, one 0:33:21.500 --> 0:33:26.440 o'clock kickoff where they play 700 WLW. This is really 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:31.660 hard for me to believe. What started out now 10 0:33:31.660 --> 0:33:38.670 years ago, downtown Cincinnati, northern Kentucky, is now 50 blocks. 0:33:40.670 --> 0:33:46.940 And downtown across northern Kentucky, blink, some 80 blocks. installations 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:50.620 of light and art of all kinds people uh coming 0:33:50.660 --> 0:33:53.250 to the tri-state from all over the place i've had 0:33:53.270 --> 0:33:55.230 a number of people that uh from out of town 0:33:55.250 --> 0:33:56.530 i'm like dude what are you doing this weekend we're 0:33:56.550 --> 0:33:58.469 gonna get together we're gonna go see blank i'm like 0:33:58.510 --> 0:34:01.390 yeah you can do that it's pretty awesome and it 0:34:01.430 --> 0:34:04.420 just continues to grow it's through the weekend and uh 0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.160 if you're out and about headed that way or headed 0:34:07.220 --> 0:34:08.960 home or whatever the beauty of it is i mean 0:34:08.980 --> 0:34:11.120 there's so many things you can sort of take a 0:34:11.140 --> 0:34:12.640 look at the stuff that you really want to check 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.150 out and sort of market out make a plan get 0:34:15.170 --> 0:34:18.190 some food hang out cincinnati good place to hang out 0:34:18.230 --> 0:34:22.800 downtown life is good uh... downtown cincinnati northern kentucky lit 0:34:23.030 --> 0:34:26.620 for sure lit up and uh... blanket uh... beautifully which 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.960 is kinda nice and as i understand it is opposed 0:34:28.980 --> 0:34:31.819 to supposed to also be some drone stuff going on 0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.880 to which is uh... amazing and in what is billed 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:38.319 now which is just amazing to me also uh... again 0:34:38.420 --> 0:34:42.839 use more superlatives here uh... that it is somewhat bewildering uh... 0:34:43.340 --> 0:34:46.800 They had 90 artists apparently being showcased, as it's been reported, 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.759 some 800 different submissions to get to that, which is 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:55.149 crazy just for me to think about it, and just 0:34:55.210 --> 0:34:57.989 how it's grown and how it's spread and how it 0:34:58.110 --> 0:35:02.930 is considered now to be the largest light in art installation, basically, 0:35:02.950 --> 0:35:06.140 in the country, right here in the tri-state, which is 0:35:06.219 --> 0:35:09.680 a pretty amazing thing. So, And it looks to be 0:35:09.739 --> 0:35:11.800 some really solid weather for it. I don't know about 0:35:11.860 --> 0:35:14.250 what Sunday is going to look like with possibility of 0:35:14.290 --> 0:35:17.689 storms and stuff moving up from a hurricane that's coming 0:35:17.770 --> 0:35:22.490 up in the Gulf between, say, Louisiana moving towards Florida. 0:35:22.510 --> 0:35:24.239 I think it's coming up around Pensacola, which there'll be 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.020 an update about sooner than later in the news, just 0:35:27.060 --> 0:35:30.540 in about 45 seconds as well. So we'll see exactly 0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.940 what that means for Sunday. In the meantime, chance to 0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.140 check out some cool stuff downtown in northern Kentucky. All right, 0:35:36.300 --> 0:35:39.000 on the other side of your 10 o'clock report, we'll 0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:43.890 talk to Normal's political director, Morgan Fox, about marijuana law, 0:35:44.610 --> 0:35:48.630 the legalization for recreation in Ohio, as well as so 0:35:48.670 --> 0:35:51.930 many other states, as well as the medicinal, and what 0:35:51.950 --> 0:35:57.910 they're seeing research-wise about kids, youth, teenagers, others consuming cannabis products. 0:35:58.370 --> 0:36:00.960 And the news that everyone had said initially was going 0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.820 to be so bad, apparently. 0:36:04.969 --> 0:36:08.950 Not bad news, but good news about maybe kids living 0:36:08.989 --> 0:36:12.649 a little bit better or not. We'll find out. That's 0:36:12.750 --> 0:36:15.629 after your 10 o'clock report here. We're the Who They Play, 0:36:15.950 --> 0:36:20.340 home of the Bengals. News Radio 700 WLW Cincinnati. Now 0:36:20.340 --> 0:36:24.140 700 WLW. You are too glad we're spending some time together. 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.520 Bengals on the road in Miami. The journey has begun 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.279 for the Who They. Trying to bounce back and get 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:34.250 ahead in the windless dolphins down that way of Kickoff Sunday, 0:36:34.250 --> 0:36:38.669 1 o'clock, right here, 700 WLW. Lots more to do. 0:36:38.730 --> 0:36:44.890 Morgan Fox, he is a hot sauce-making, legal, political director, 0:36:44.969 --> 0:36:49.239 knowledgeable in the world overall from the National Organization for 0:36:49.300 --> 0:36:53.660 Reform of Marijuana Laws. Morgan Fox, welcome to 700 WLW 0:36:53.700 --> 0:36:55.239 with Sterling. It's been a while. How are you doing? 0:36:56.700 --> 0:36:57.780 I'm doing pretty well, Sterling. 0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:58.500 How about yourself? 0:36:58.840 --> 0:36:59.800 I have no complaints. 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:01.590 You know, I. 0:37:02.450 --> 0:37:06.089 Remember leading up to, and we've talked about this, the 0:37:06.170 --> 0:37:11.870 legalization from the medicinal to the recreational marijuana products, cannabis, 0:37:12.010 --> 0:37:14.670 in Ohio and across the country, which the states have 0:37:14.690 --> 0:37:18.129 been following seemingly one by one like dominoes for some time, right? 0:37:19.310 --> 0:37:22.330 And a lot of the tractors initially were saying, this 0:37:22.370 --> 0:37:24.350 is going to be pandemonium. It's going to be chaos. 0:37:24.370 --> 0:37:26.549 There's going to be kids on the corner smoking out, 0:37:26.630 --> 0:37:30.670 skipping school, their lives ruined and everything else. And some 0:37:30.690 --> 0:37:33.450 data has come out. And I was concerned about this. 0:37:33.530 --> 0:37:35.969 Nobody wants kids all hopped up on the goofballs and 0:37:36.530 --> 0:37:39.830 ruining their future. But it turns out, apparently, that this 0:37:39.870 --> 0:37:44.870 has seemingly been handled fairly responsible by legal dispensaries, and 0:37:45.430 --> 0:37:50.589 those worries have been overblown. Or am I simplifying it? No, 0:37:50.610 --> 0:37:51.890 you've got it right on the number. 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:56.820 And this is something that I think was kind of 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:02.330 misinterpreted throughout the entire course of this conversation. You know, 0:38:04.020 --> 0:38:05.940 Kids are going to be able to get cannabis no 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.000 matter what. But when you put it behind the counter 0:38:09.620 --> 0:38:13.360 with people that have something to lose, if they sell 0:38:13.460 --> 0:38:17.560 to people that are underage, then you're going to see 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.799 decreases in teen use. And now we've seen with the 0:38:20.820 --> 0:38:25.989 recent CDC data that youth use of cannabis is at 0:38:26.010 --> 0:38:31.210 a 30-year low. And that is largely because state after state, 0:38:31.930 --> 0:38:34.850 including Ohio, are putting it behind the counter. 0:38:36.850 --> 0:38:40.390 When you say it's lower, it wasn't over the counter before. 0:38:40.410 --> 0:38:43.279 So what I'm wondering is, has the black market and 0:38:43.340 --> 0:38:47.799 accessibility shrunken in some capacity at this point for like 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.560 buying it off the street rather than being, you know, 0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:55.730 the handy dandy secure and nicely lit wide variety of 0:38:55.890 --> 0:38:59.270 options of different menu items of cannabis products? 0:39:00.850 --> 0:39:01.430 Absolutely. 0:39:01.830 --> 0:39:05.810 I mean, you're never going to completely eliminate an underground 0:39:05.890 --> 0:39:10.020 market for any sort of products. I mean, there's still 0:39:10.100 --> 0:39:15.040 underground markets for alcohol. There's still underground markets for tobacco, 0:39:16.020 --> 0:39:24.450 any other commodity. But largely, people want to consume cannabis 0:39:24.790 --> 0:39:29.730 that is tested, that is regulated. The only problem is 0:39:30.070 --> 0:39:34.980 is that, unfortunately, most of the states, including Ohio, are 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:39.620 overtaxing and overregulating the substance, and that makes it very 0:39:39.660 --> 0:39:44.700 difficult for legitimate retailers to be able to compete with 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:52.170 the extant legal market. That being said... Ohio has seen 0:39:52.630 --> 0:39:55.570 that there are, uh, you know, hundreds of millions of 0:39:55.610 --> 0:39:58.250 dollars of sales going on in the legal market. And 0:39:58.290 --> 0:40:01.100 those are all sales that are not taking place in 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:07.740 the unregulated market. Um, and that means that these folks 0:40:07.940 --> 0:40:10.360 are not going to be selling to, uh, to teens. 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.319 And we have seen the data, uh, both at the 0:40:14.340 --> 0:40:18.820 federal level, as well as at the state level, there are, uh, Very, 0:40:18.860 --> 0:40:23.880 very few people now being able to access cannabis if 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.600 they are under 21. 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.219 I'm curious about this. Morgan Fox, by the way, is 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.900 the political director of NORML, which is, for those who 0:40:31.940 --> 0:40:35.140 don't know, the National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws. 0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:40.690 You can find out more at NORML. That's N-O-R-M-L dot org. 0:40:41.430 --> 0:40:45.200 You mentioned overtaxing and regulating. There was a change just 0:40:45.260 --> 0:40:47.319 in the last couple of weeks, I think, maybe the 0:40:47.420 --> 0:40:49.850 first of this month in Ohio, as I understand it, 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.350 where there is a change in the potency. And I 0:40:53.390 --> 0:40:55.750 don't know how that's controlled. I understand if it's a 0:40:55.969 --> 0:41:01.570 gummy or something else that's processed. Apparently, that also includes 0:41:01.610 --> 0:41:05.550 the actual plant somehow in potency. This is not apparently 0:41:05.570 --> 0:41:09.180 the stuff that the Summer of Love kids were smoking 0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.439 and ingesting. This is different weed, yeah? 0:41:13.620 --> 0:41:22.720 Absolutely not. So cannabis in more higher THC concentrated form 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:27.030 has been available for thousands of years in the form 0:41:27.090 --> 0:41:36.029 of hashish. The real issue is that potency does not 0:41:36.150 --> 0:41:41.300 equal dosage. And when people are able to access products 0:41:41.590 --> 0:41:45.580 that have a higher potency, they tend to consume less 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.220 of it. That's called self-titration. 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.020 I've had people ask this, and I just had a 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.420 couple people message. What about the privacy issue of going 0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.440 to a dispensary to purchase some type of product? Not 0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.640 necessarily someone worrying about that maybe with the medicine, I'm guessing, 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:04.140 but for those for recreational purposes, because they do swipe 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.209 your ID just like they would if you were buying 0:42:06.250 --> 0:42:06.970 adult beverages. 0:42:09.380 --> 0:42:13.170 Well, I'm curious about exactly what people are concerned about, 0:42:13.489 --> 0:42:16.590 because if they have no problem with that when it 0:42:16.610 --> 0:42:19.109 comes to alcohol, I'm not sure what the issue would 0:42:19.150 --> 0:42:20.330 be with cannabis. 0:42:20.730 --> 0:42:23.450 Yeah, I don't either. This is what people text me, 0:42:23.469 --> 0:42:25.930 and this is what people email, so why ask you? 0:42:25.950 --> 0:42:30.080 I don't know. I guess they worry that Big Brother 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.560 might be knowing what they're doing and then sharing that 0:42:32.620 --> 0:42:36.190 information from the store to the state or whatever. to 0:42:36.250 --> 0:42:39.450 medical companies like insurance companies or something? I don't know. 0:42:39.930 --> 0:42:44.490 Well, I mean, it's, it's pretty ridiculous how much of our, uh, 0:42:44.660 --> 0:42:47.440 our information is being shared across the board, regardless of 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:51.120 what our consumer habits, uh, might be, uh, whether it's 0:42:51.180 --> 0:42:56.340 cannabis or, uh, you know, our pharmaceutical, uh, uh, drugs or, 0:42:56.760 --> 0:43:01.040 you know, whatever. I mean, it's, uh, it's pretty ridiculous 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:06.520 about how much of our personal behavior is, uh, readily 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:13.200 available to marketers or to the federal government. I think 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:18.200 that when it comes to cannabis issues at the state level, 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:25.279 this is really an important issue for folks to talk 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:29.940 about with their federal lawmakers. And we've got midterms coming up, 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.430 so this is going to be an important issue for 0:43:33.469 --> 0:43:38.510 them as well. and more of an impetus for us 0:43:38.550 --> 0:43:44.460 to end federal prohibition and deschedule cannabis and start to 0:43:44.500 --> 0:43:48.219 provide federal regulations or at least federal guidelines so that 0:43:48.340 --> 0:43:52.210 states can determine their own regulations with, uh, you know, 0:43:52.270 --> 0:44:00.009 a little bit of, uh, um, I suppose, leeway because 0:44:00.070 --> 0:44:04.170 we clearly want safe rights to be at the forefront here. 0:44:04.390 --> 0:44:07.290 Yeah, it would be. Is there a continuity issue at 0:44:07.330 --> 0:44:11.890 this point? You mentioned taxing and disparities and overtaxing and 0:44:11.930 --> 0:44:15.670 regulating in Ohio and some other states. Somebody mentioned that 0:44:15.690 --> 0:44:18.470 it's significantly cheaper, say, for instance, from Michigan to Ohio, 0:44:18.510 --> 0:44:20.730 but I don't think you're supposed to go across state lines. 0:44:20.810 --> 0:44:23.049 No different than, say, if I go to Kentucky to 0:44:23.090 --> 0:44:25.900 buy a bottle or something. and come across to Ohio 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:30.460 since it's basically the same town. But there's still state 0:44:30.500 --> 0:44:32.700 boundaries and so forth. How does that come into play? 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:38.900 Well, Ohio lawmakers unfortunately decided to make it a criminal 0:44:38.980 --> 0:44:44.480 offense to have in your possession any cannabis that cannot 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:50.480 be proven to be originating in Ohio, whether it's homegrown or. 0:44:50.450 --> 0:44:51.510 Purchased from Ohio. 0:44:52.130 --> 0:44:56.920 And Ohioans had been going to Michigan to get relatively 0:44:56.980 --> 0:45:01.680 cheaper cannabis for years now, even post-legalization within the state 0:45:01.700 --> 0:45:05.920 of Ohio. And, you know, this is something that I 0:45:05.940 --> 0:45:08.940 think that voters should really think about when they go 0:45:08.980 --> 0:45:14.850 to the polls in November and honestly punish lawmakers that 0:45:15.010 --> 0:45:20.590 have decided that they want to try to hurt cannabis 0:45:20.610 --> 0:45:22.210 consumers in that fashion. 0:45:23.180 --> 0:45:25.779 Do you think that there should be a market for 0:45:25.940 --> 0:45:28.419 some of these other products that are still somehow being 0:45:28.500 --> 0:45:31.380 sold in some fashion? I'm not talking about the sexy 0:45:31.420 --> 0:45:34.580 packaging that make it look like candy or look-alike stuff, 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.739 but those stores that are not legal dispensaries selling some 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.400 sort of product, a variety of kinds that have made headlines, 0:45:40.460 --> 0:45:45.260 not just weed or weed-type products. Whether it's smoke shops, 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.360 or we had a big one that was a chain 0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:51.100 in this region from around Tri-State up to the Miami 0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.370 Valley and the Dayton area. that shut down a whole 0:45:53.390 --> 0:45:55.900 bunch of stores to avoid greater problems and peril for 0:45:55.940 --> 0:45:59.239 their business. But it does seem sort of weird where 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.440 there is some stuff available one way, but then not 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.730 another way, and you can't necessarily trust those retailers that 0:46:04.770 --> 0:46:07.890 are not a part of the dispensary system, or is 0:46:07.930 --> 0:46:09.050 that unfair worry? 0:46:11.030 --> 0:46:14.319 No, that's actually a legitimate worry. You know, there are 0:46:14.340 --> 0:46:16.660 a lot of folks out there that are really good 0:46:16.860 --> 0:46:22.319 actors in the hemp-derived and hemp-synthesized cannabinoid space, but there's 0:46:22.340 --> 0:46:24.640 a lot of bad actors out there as well, and 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.950 it's very difficult for consumers to be able to tell 0:46:26.969 --> 0:46:30.730 the difference. Now, Ohio has recently passed laws to try 0:46:30.750 --> 0:46:35.989 to crack down on some of those bad actors, but unfortunately, 0:46:36.030 --> 0:46:38.770 they've also cracked down on some of the good actors 0:46:38.850 --> 0:46:39.229 as well. 0:46:41.180 --> 0:46:42.520 When it comes down to it. 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.960 We really need to treat this plant as just a 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:53.740 simple plant and then deal with the individual products appropriately 0:46:54.239 --> 0:47:03.890 based on their derivation, their production. and make sure that 0:47:04.030 --> 0:47:06.049 anybody that is selling anything that people are going to 0:47:06.070 --> 0:47:12.410 put in their bodies are using solid GMP and actually 0:47:12.550 --> 0:47:17.200 have some sort of regulatory oversight. And there's no reason 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:23.260 that this can't be done within one single solitary structure. 0:47:24.219 --> 0:47:26.319 Do you think that we'll get to a place? Because, 0:47:26.340 --> 0:47:28.700 I mean, like right now, I have my eggs feet open. 0:47:29.300 --> 0:47:31.980 And as we're speaking, whether or not this laptop in 0:47:32.020 --> 0:47:35.260 front of me that the company provided, so I love 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:36.960 what they're going to say about this. Just as we're 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.020 talking and I refresh, there's a Cheech and Chong ad 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:45.509 selling some gummies, it looks like, and other stuff. So 0:47:45.570 --> 0:47:48.510 apparently in the realm of social media, you can advertise 0:47:48.570 --> 0:47:51.069 some stuff, but not necessarily here on the radio or 0:47:51.130 --> 0:47:55.049 other platforms streaming. So do we see a, pardon the pun, 0:47:55.110 --> 0:47:58.810 normalization here? of an opportunity for revenue to be made 0:47:58.930 --> 0:48:02.160 and for these companies and businesses to sell their wares 0:48:02.219 --> 0:48:05.759 and share advertising to welcome people to their business? Or 0:48:05.820 --> 0:48:07.650 is this one of those things that will always, do 0:48:07.670 --> 0:48:09.989 you think, be kept in that box somewhere else? 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:16.230 I think that's going to depend largely upon the Ohio legislature. 0:48:17.170 --> 0:48:21.650 They're going to have to realize that there needs to 0:48:21.730 --> 0:48:26.049 be a one plan solution and then deal with that accordingly. 0:48:26.700 --> 0:48:29.739 And if they're not willing to do that, then I 0:48:30.060 --> 0:48:34.819 think that we're going to have significant problems. And the 0:48:34.860 --> 0:48:39.319 fact that the Ohio legislature already has been trying to 0:48:39.420 --> 0:48:45.760 roll back the consumer protections that voters approved back in 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.359 23 is really problematic. And so it does not give 0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:53.060 me a whole lot of hope that the laws are 0:48:53.100 --> 0:48:57.140 going to be made in any sort of a beneficial 0:48:57.180 --> 0:49:01.600 manner for consumers. I think that... It's going to take 0:49:01.660 --> 0:49:07.000 voters and consumers to really push hard on their elected 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:17.930 officials to develop much more concise and beneficial, I suppose, decisions. 0:49:21.489 --> 0:49:23.750 You know it was interesting to me morgan in this 0:49:23.810 --> 0:49:26.469 is more impossible as a political director for normal uh... 0:49:26.410 --> 0:49:28.469 which is the national organization for a form of uh... 0:49:28.590 --> 0:49:30.890 marijuana loss was sterling on the big one is we 0:49:30.930 --> 0:49:34.840 look at this year and now And normal's been around since, what, 1970, 0:49:34.830 --> 0:49:39.129 so 56 years and change, close to 60 years. Do 0:49:39.210 --> 0:49:41.989 you see there continuing to be a need five years, 0:49:41.989 --> 0:49:44.270 10 years from now? Because you talk to somebody 10 0:49:44.270 --> 0:49:46.680 years ago, 15 years ago, and you say, hey, you 0:49:46.700 --> 0:49:48.480 can go to the corner dispensary the same way you 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.160 can go to the liquor store and get yourself whatever 0:49:51.219 --> 0:49:53.620 product you need that's in the world of cannabis the 0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.160 same way you can go get yourself a bottle. And granted, 0:49:56.540 --> 0:50:00.020 they say any alcohol is bad for you, arguably moderation, 0:50:00.060 --> 0:50:03.120 but research has shown other stuff lately. Yet there is 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:07.670 apparently medicinal benefit in some capacity for some consumption, probably 0:50:07.710 --> 0:50:11.190 not ingesting it by way of inhalation, but other ways 0:50:11.290 --> 0:50:11.910 for cannabis. 0:50:13.730 --> 0:50:17.310 Well, that's one of the big misconceptions. A lot of 0:50:17.350 --> 0:50:19.739 folks think that as soon as you are able to 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:25.819 go and purchase cannabis at a licensed dispensary, that the 0:50:25.860 --> 0:50:31.009 work is done. And unfortunately, that's not the case. People 0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.710 who consume cannabis continue to be discriminated against when it 0:50:34.730 --> 0:50:41.420 comes to things like employment or education. housing or education 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:52.850 or firearm rights or child custody, etc. And there are 0:50:54.510 --> 0:50:58.970 a number of ways where people can continue to be 0:50:59.050 --> 0:51:04.950 punished because of their cannabis consumption post-legalization. And so there 0:51:05.030 --> 0:51:08.760 continues to be a need for consumer advocacy in this space. 0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.779 Anything I haven't asked, I always like to ask you 0:51:11.820 --> 0:51:13.839 that because I know enough to know I don't know enough. 0:51:15.710 --> 0:51:19.310 Well, I think in particular in Ohio, we really need 0:51:19.370 --> 0:51:24.109 to try to roll back some of the consumer recriminalization 0:51:24.270 --> 0:51:31.200 that happened with Senate Bill 56 and continue working on 0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:35.080 ways that we can prevent people from being discriminated against 0:51:35.219 --> 0:51:37.280 for their lawful cannabis consumption. 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:42.200 Any idea of how much money and revenue for tax 0:51:42.300 --> 0:51:44.940 we have seen? I've seen some numbers, and it is 0:51:45.180 --> 0:51:48.709 astounding the number of dollars, and I guess a huge 0:51:48.770 --> 0:51:51.649 benefit for those communities. Now they're starting to share this 0:51:51.750 --> 0:51:54.029 with those where the dispensaries are located and beyond, yeah? 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:56.860 Yeah, absolutely. 0:51:57.380 --> 0:51:59.819 I mean, I'm not sure exactly what the numbers are, 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:04.200 but that's because my focus is primarily on protecting consumers 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:08.560 and not necessarily on worrying about what state revenue is. 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:14.640 But at the end of the day, the less you 0:52:14.700 --> 0:52:17.109 tax cannabis, the less you. 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:23.960 Barriers to entry on, uh, uh, people getting involved in 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:27.580 this industry, the, uh, because all of this stuff trickles 0:52:27.620 --> 0:52:32.650 down into consumers, um, the better off we're going to be. 0:52:32.750 --> 0:52:36.210 And the more tax revenue we're going to get from, uh, 0:52:36.210 --> 0:52:44.160 a regulated system, uh, The more harsh barriers that we 0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:48.690 put on the system, the more we're basically subsidizing the 0:52:49.870 --> 0:52:54.110 unregulated market and the underground drug dealers, basically. 0:52:54.290 --> 0:52:56.530 I have some friends that are in the spirits business. 0:52:56.550 --> 0:52:58.510 And at this point, they're like, well, we can embrace 0:52:58.550 --> 0:53:01.460 this cannabis thing, but there's limitations on that. And they're 0:53:01.500 --> 0:53:04.260 not sure the sort of trepidation about that. But they 0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:07.339 have seen a drop in their sales. that has gone 0:53:07.380 --> 0:53:10.589 with the rise of legal cannabis sales. So they're sort 0:53:10.610 --> 0:53:12.310 of in a weird place of trying to figure out 0:53:12.350 --> 0:53:15.810 people's lifestyles, wants, and needs. But that's a constant, I guess, 0:53:15.850 --> 0:53:19.030 in any business, whether you're selling hamburgers, tacos, weed, or booze. 0:53:19.590 --> 0:53:22.990 So there you go. Morgan Fox, thank you for making time. 0:53:23.230 --> 0:53:27.270 I appreciate you doing what you do. And political director, Normal, 0:53:27.330 --> 0:53:31.129 that's N-O-R-M-L dot org. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, man, 0:53:31.250 --> 0:53:32.270 and we'll talk soon. 0:53:33.570 --> 0:53:34.259 Thanks for having me in. 0:53:34.810 --> 0:53:37.260 Always a pleasure. Take care of yourself. More Sterling coming back. 0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:40.260 Your 1030 Reports coming up here where the Bengals play Sunday, 0:53:40.260 --> 0:53:44.700 1 o'clock at Miami, taking on those Dolphins. Sterling, 700 WLW. 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:46.660 He's in the control room trying to keep me from 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:50.400 being out of control. I think Lee Malwin's in the newsroom. 0:53:50.940 --> 0:53:54.339 He's in control, but he's on the edge. A lot 0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:56.130 of ground to cover between now and midnight. Red Eye 0:53:56.170 --> 0:53:58.890 Radio after that. Bengals on the road. Who day in 0:53:58.930 --> 0:54:04.810 Miami comes Sunday. The journey there. It's a winless Dolphins team, 0:54:04.850 --> 0:54:08.390 so the Bengals can get healthy mentally, physically, and hopefully 0:54:08.430 --> 0:54:10.550 find their way to a W before coming back home. 0:54:10.590 --> 0:54:14.020 We'll see how that plays out the rest of the weekend. 0:54:14.700 --> 0:54:18.920 I want to mention this. Earlier, we discussed a little 0:54:18.940 --> 0:54:21.360 bit about the issue of the death penalty and the 0:54:21.380 --> 0:54:24.640 military and the firing squad that's coming. I think it's 0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:28.379 in December, if I'm not mistaken. We talked to Michael 0:54:28.420 --> 0:54:32.200 Radelet from the University of Colorado Boulder about that, his 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:36.820 professor emeritus there. He studied execution stuff and death penalty 0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:39.460 stuff for like 45 years. He knows everything about it, 0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:44.120 except the actual being in the chair, if you will. 0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:46.459 So it was a good conversation podcast later on that. 0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:50.360 But it leads me to something that's going on right now. 0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:55.630 The second day of– testimony with with with with yesterday 0:54:55.670 --> 0:54:56.770 i guess uh. 0:54:56.770 --> 0:54:56.850 uh. 0:54:57.330 --> 0:55:01.830 the rodney hidden junior uh... trial he has been accused 0:55:01.850 --> 0:55:05.450 of the the allegation is and i say that because 0:55:05.469 --> 0:55:06.790 i don't want to be sued but it seems pretty 0:55:06.830 --> 0:55:09.430 clear there's not really question about it uh... that he 0:55:09.450 --> 0:55:14.590 did it but uh... music used to fatally hitting the 0:55:15.210 --> 0:55:19.489 hamilton county deputy uh... larry henderson junior just uh... what 0:55:19.510 --> 0:55:21.839 a little over a year ago now uh... with his 0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:30.510 car basically executed him by car. And what's being discussed 0:55:30.550 --> 0:55:34.029 now is his emotional state and his distress. And, you know, 0:55:34.290 --> 0:55:36.850 say it's not an excuse for murder necessarily, but his 0:55:36.950 --> 0:55:42.319 mental illness and emotional distress. And see, let me lay 0:55:42.340 --> 0:55:43.680 this out here that I want to get your opinion. 0:55:45.980 --> 0:55:54.440 So his son, was killed after fleeing police in a 0:55:54.500 --> 0:56:01.950 stolen car. And he and his buddies exited vehicle and fled. 0:56:02.070 --> 0:56:03.650 And if I remember correctly, it was like an apartment 0:56:04.190 --> 0:56:08.500 complex parking lot near a dumpster. And they rolled up 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:11.260 on them and they had been looking for these guys. 0:56:11.739 --> 0:56:14.969 And then they bust out of the vehicle and And 0:56:14.989 --> 0:56:17.770 as they're going to leave, they already think that they're 0:56:17.790 --> 0:56:20.550 armed and dangerous. They see a weapon, and the kid 0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:24.680 who gets out of the vehicle, a young adult, has 0:56:24.739 --> 0:56:26.739 the weapon in his hand, it appears, and is not 0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.200 listening and is looking to flee. And first of all, 0:56:29.219 --> 0:56:32.030 you're in a car that's been boosted. Secondly, you're carrying 0:56:32.050 --> 0:56:36.130 a firearm. Third, you're not stopping when you're directed to 0:56:36.170 --> 0:56:36.810 stop because what? 0:56:36.890 --> 0:56:37.150 I don't know. 0:56:37.190 --> 0:56:38.670 You're scared. You think you're going to get away from 0:56:38.690 --> 0:56:40.610 the police. I have no idea what kind of stupid 0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:42.439 is involved with this, but there was a whole lot 0:56:42.460 --> 0:56:46.380 of it. Bad decision making, bad, bad outcome, putting the 0:56:46.420 --> 0:56:49.880 community at risk, putting law enforcement at risk and effectively 0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:53.200 putting law enforcement in a position where it is. Do 0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:54.900 I want to go home? Am I in fear of 0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.020 my life? And what about the community if they did 0:56:57.080 --> 0:56:59.850 not fire upon this young man at the time? who 0:56:59.890 --> 0:57:02.370 would have then escaped into the neighborhood with this weapon 0:57:02.780 --> 0:57:05.979 and obviously willing to tote it. It would appear, whether 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:09.500 it's towards police or anyone else, they stopped the threat 0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:14.360 and the danger. It's a horrible situation, completely preventable and 0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:18.720 bad choices. And apparently dad made dumb ass choices, too, 0:57:19.140 --> 0:57:21.550 and culpability. And it's a tragedy. 0:57:21.930 --> 0:57:22.220 All right. 0:57:22.860 --> 0:57:27.419 And so he apparently sees body cam video subsequent to 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:32.340 the shooting and allegedly loses his mind. And then behind 0:57:32.380 --> 0:57:36.360 the wheel of a vehicle. Comes upon UC, if I 0:57:36.380 --> 0:57:38.740 remember correctly, it was like commencement time. There was some 0:57:38.780 --> 0:57:42.880 type of events going on. And they have deputy sheriffs, 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.400 sometimes Cincinnati police, work detail work in uniform to help 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:51.340 families and anyone in the community get around campus, find parking, 0:57:51.390 --> 0:57:54.010 get in and out of there safely and securely. And 0:57:54.140 --> 0:57:57.810 once again, it proves that people go, oh, cops this, 0:57:57.870 --> 0:58:01.690 cops that. Look, you are a target in uniform if 0:58:01.730 --> 0:58:07.150 you are police or first responder, unfortunately, anytime you're out 0:58:07.170 --> 0:58:11.310 and about. And this guy was doing nothing but just 0:58:11.730 --> 0:58:17.110 doing his job in uniform and got run down. OK, 0:58:17.590 --> 0:58:19.260 you can call it crazy. You can call it a 0:58:19.300 --> 0:58:22.340 momentary lapse of reason. I understand we have a process 0:58:22.380 --> 0:58:25.660 in adjudicating these things and running through the process and 0:58:25.700 --> 0:58:30.020 giving everybody a fair shake, you know, when it comes 0:58:30.060 --> 0:58:32.970 to the criminal justice system and the process of this. 0:58:33.870 --> 0:58:35.890 But it doesn't seem to be much doubt that he 0:58:35.950 --> 0:58:39.550 did it. And his mind states at the point of 0:58:39.590 --> 0:58:45.440 him doing it, honestly, in my view, is irrelevant. He 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.640 made a bad choice. He reacted on emotion. I don't 0:58:48.660 --> 0:58:51.660 know if you would call it crazy or deranged or insane, 0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:55.590 but he caused the death of this officer, this deputy. 0:58:57.890 --> 0:58:59.710 And he should never be allowed to be out again 0:58:59.770 --> 0:59:02.030 in the sandbox of life. You can call him crazy 0:59:02.050 --> 0:59:05.210 if you want. In my opinion, it doesn't really, I 0:59:06.490 --> 0:59:09.690 don't look at this any differently than any other case. Oh, 0:59:09.790 --> 0:59:12.620 it's somebody was crazy. You might have been crazy. What 0:59:12.660 --> 0:59:15.800 was the woman who just ended up in a situation 0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:19.130 where she was on trial? I forget her name. She's 0:59:19.570 --> 0:59:22.490 tried to kill herself, jumped out a window and basically 0:59:22.550 --> 0:59:25.890 strangled her children. And then they were trying, it was 0:59:25.950 --> 0:59:30.350 up in Massachusetts. And then they're, oh, she's crazy. Well, yeah, 0:59:30.550 --> 0:59:32.510 I don't care if she was crazy. She should never, 0:59:32.660 --> 0:59:34.080 none of these people who do these types of things 0:59:34.100 --> 0:59:37.700 should ever see the light of day again. Whether they're 0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:40.380 crazy and insane, because look, unless you're taking a life 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:48.310 in defense, when you have no other option, then that's murder. 0:59:49.110 --> 0:59:50.550 You can call it manslaughter. You can call it, oh, 0:59:50.570 --> 0:59:52.350 I was crazy and insane at the time or whatever else, 0:59:52.450 --> 0:59:58.050 but it's just ridiculous. So as they try to figure 0:59:58.090 --> 1:00:02.660 that out, I just say this, and I probably wouldn't 1:00:02.700 --> 1:00:06.160 qualify for the jury. I have been asked a number 1:00:06.180 --> 1:00:08.640 of times, and they've never selected me. I want to 1:00:08.660 --> 1:00:12.300 know this. Do you see this as I do or not? 1:00:13.860 --> 1:00:16.190 I mean, it is a tragedy, and I can't imagine 1:00:16.210 --> 1:00:20.450 being in a situation where you, in fact, have lost 1:00:20.490 --> 1:00:24.890 your son in a violent way. And I understand where 1:00:24.910 --> 1:00:27.430 you think, well, maybe you failed as a parent, where 1:00:27.450 --> 1:00:29.730 you had a young man who made bad choice after 1:00:29.790 --> 1:00:32.990 bad choice in a bad situation. And in that situation, 1:00:33.030 --> 1:00:35.410 put law enforcement in a place where they had no 1:00:35.470 --> 1:00:37.570 other choice to make a decision of life and death 1:00:37.870 --> 1:00:42.110 for their own survival in the communities. And I understand 1:00:42.450 --> 1:00:45.310 freaking out and feeling guilty and angry and everything else 1:00:45.350 --> 1:00:47.730 that goes along with that. But what we see is 1:00:48.450 --> 1:00:51.450 that maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. 1:00:52.180 --> 1:00:56.669 Bad choices, bad behavior, horrific outcomes, and loss of life. 1:00:57.270 --> 1:01:02.190 And instead of it being someone else, it was this 1:01:02.250 --> 1:01:06.820 deputy this time. And it was someone else in the 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:10.200 neighborhood or someone else's car to be boosted or law 1:01:10.220 --> 1:01:14.160 enforcement at the time. It was that man's son who 1:01:14.200 --> 1:01:17.120 lost his life because he endangered and threatened law enforcement 1:01:17.140 --> 1:01:20.290 and the community at large. So you can call him crazy. 1:01:20.390 --> 1:01:23.140 You can call him insane. But as far as I'm concerned, 1:01:23.160 --> 1:01:25.360 they damn well better stay locked up and never out 1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:31.740 on the street again. 513-749-7800, the big one. You can 1:01:31.780 --> 1:01:34.500 talk back. The iHeartRadio app. I don't think what I'm 1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:43.130 saying is controversial. I don't think it's unreasonable. But off 1:01:43.170 --> 1:01:44.930 the air, I've had a conversation with a couple people, 1:01:44.950 --> 1:01:47.690 and they tell me, oh, I am harsh, that I 1:01:47.730 --> 1:01:52.470 am inconsiderate, that I don't understand. And this guy was 1:01:52.490 --> 1:01:54.750 going through so much that anybody would have been seeing 1:01:54.830 --> 1:01:56.990 red and out of their mind and anything could have happened. 1:01:58.350 --> 1:02:02.230 And I just don't buy it. Bad things happen all 1:02:02.250 --> 1:02:06.350 the time. Law enforcement are put in places and situations 1:02:06.390 --> 1:02:09.950 and decisions of life and death a lot. Most law 1:02:09.970 --> 1:02:11.850 enforcement never discharge their weapons. 1:02:13.010 --> 1:02:13.250 Ever. 1:02:14.770 --> 1:02:20.950 Other than in training. And criminals, you know, they're willy-nilly 1:02:20.970 --> 1:02:24.330 with them. Not very judicious with the discharging of the 1:02:24.370 --> 1:02:27.080 firearm and in a boosted car and on the run 1:02:27.620 --> 1:02:32.000 and looking to flee. That's how this man's son ended up. 1:02:34.180 --> 1:02:34.400 Dead. 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:40.590 And Larry Henderson Jr., his family, those other deputies and 1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:45.590 anybody in the community and just frankly, human beings. Just 1:02:45.690 --> 1:02:48.230 out here living life, trying to get by every day. 1:02:49.060 --> 1:02:51.480 And here's a guy serving and protecting the community, did 1:02:51.500 --> 1:02:53.500 it for quite a while. And if I'm not mistaken, 1:02:53.520 --> 1:02:55.620 was basically retired, just doing a little bit of work. 1:02:56.980 --> 1:03:00.180 And he doesn't go home. And this other guy is 1:03:00.200 --> 1:03:02.140 going to say, oh, I was crazy and insane because 1:03:02.180 --> 1:03:04.200 my kid did a dumb ass thing and put others 1:03:04.260 --> 1:03:06.410 at risk and ended up paying the ultimate price. So 1:03:06.470 --> 1:03:10.150 he took somebody else out. It is crazy and it 1:03:10.250 --> 1:03:14.530 is insane, but that doesn't mean you get off for 1:03:14.550 --> 1:03:17.380 the behavior or That was out of sorts. It means 1:03:17.420 --> 1:03:20.160 that you can't be trusted to be reasonable and rational 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:24.750 and handle your emotions and live well in the community. Therefore, 1:03:24.930 --> 1:03:27.870 you should be locked up. At least that's my opinion. 1:03:27.930 --> 1:03:31.300 What do you think? 513-749-7800, the big one. You can 1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:33.440 pick up the phone, give it a finger. 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That 1:04:57.680 --> 1:05:00.110 does not seem possible. I remember when they first introduced it, like, 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:01.190 we're going to do this new thing. We're going to 1:05:01.230 --> 1:05:01.980 light everything up. 1:05:01.990 --> 1:05:04.170 It's going to be amazing. 1:05:04.850 --> 1:05:06.790 I remember saying, I'm like, that is pretty cool. And 1:05:06.830 --> 1:05:08.930 just every year, a little bit more, a little bit wider, 1:05:08.950 --> 1:05:10.850 a little bit more, a little bit wider. The footprint 1:05:10.870 --> 1:05:14.490 keeps getting bigger. More and more people. Spectacular. It's great 1:05:14.890 --> 1:05:17.810 for people coming down to experience it. Great for the creators, 1:05:17.850 --> 1:05:22.250 the artists. And incredibly good for business, for restaurants, hotels, 1:05:22.290 --> 1:05:24.270 and all kinds of other stuff associated with it in 1:05:24.310 --> 1:05:27.270 and out. of town in the region, which is also 1:05:27.310 --> 1:05:29.270 fantastic as well. So if you get a chance, check 1:05:29.290 --> 1:05:32.090 it out. And of course, also during the day, there's 1:05:32.110 --> 1:05:33.970 so many other things to do in and around town. 1:05:34.230 --> 1:05:36.490 And of course, downtown, some other stuff would blink. But 1:05:37.040 --> 1:05:39.860 so many murals, museums, good times, the weather looks to 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:42.500 be pretty good. So, you know, at least we're not 1:05:42.540 --> 1:05:47.400 getting Isaiah's issues and the issue of the hurricane that's now, 1:05:47.440 --> 1:05:50.990 I think it's a category two, making landfall in the 1:05:51.010 --> 1:05:55.070 panhandle of Florida. which has seen some of the devastation. 1:05:55.130 --> 1:05:58.810 That looks pretty rough. We'll see exactly what comes from 1:05:58.850 --> 1:06:01.190 it overall with storm surge and everything else. And we 1:06:01.230 --> 1:06:03.770 could very well Sunday see a little bit of that 1:06:03.810 --> 1:06:07.090 as well. But we'll see exactly what comes that way. 1:06:07.110 --> 1:06:09.910 Because until it's here, I don't know. Forecasts have been 1:06:09.950 --> 1:06:11.830 known to change. And keep it on the big one. 1:06:12.030 --> 1:06:13.990 We'll be all over it like a two-ton heavy thing. 1:06:15.850 --> 1:06:21.150 Somebody sent me an article that is interesting. This is 1:06:21.270 --> 1:06:24.300 from the Free Press. And this is the headline, and 1:06:24.360 --> 1:06:26.510 I have stared at it, and I've read a little 1:06:26.550 --> 1:06:28.840 bit of it, and I'm kind of uncomfortable about it. 1:06:29.510 --> 1:06:35.370 It says, Caitlin Flanagan, colon, what was Jane Doe looking for? 1:06:35.390 --> 1:06:40.000 It says, women know that fraternity houses are dangerous places, 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:45.600 and yet they go anyway. So Flanagan writes about this 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:50.060 whole thing, and I think most people sort of understand that. 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:56.780 what that headline means. But knowing that, I mean, if 1:06:56.820 --> 1:07:02.110 you have a daughter, I mean, my mom was a woman. 1:07:03.210 --> 1:07:08.310 I have women friends. I like women. I date women. 1:07:09.130 --> 1:07:13.410 I have aunts and had a grandma and others, and 1:07:13.630 --> 1:07:16.540 I love and respect women. And I would tell them 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:19.580 probably that a fraternity would probably not be the place 1:07:19.600 --> 1:07:22.120 for them to hang out as well. But that being said, 1:07:22.140 --> 1:07:25.960 because this has come up before and somehow the finger 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:29.350 of blame or ownership of responsibility in some fashion comes 1:07:29.450 --> 1:07:33.990 up and they go, well, she shouldn't have been there. Yeah, 1:07:34.150 --> 1:07:38.330 that's true, clearly, in hindsight. And that's the case anytime 1:07:38.390 --> 1:07:42.780 something bad happens. But the fact that something like this 1:07:42.840 --> 1:07:46.320 would present itself And this all out text goes out 1:07:46.360 --> 1:07:48.910 as it's alleged advertising free sex in one of the 1:07:48.950 --> 1:07:51.870 rooms there or whatever else that goes with it. Really, honestly, 1:07:51.890 --> 1:07:57.010 doesn't seem all that surprising to me. But what I 1:07:57.090 --> 1:08:00.700 ask you is this, is that even what when you 1:08:01.030 --> 1:08:04.740 either are gone to college or sent your kids to school? 1:08:05.880 --> 1:08:07.680 And what do you what do you tell your daughters? 1:08:08.060 --> 1:08:10.360 Because this is what's amazing to me. And I'd like 1:08:10.380 --> 1:08:14.070 to hear from some women on this. I would say, 1:08:14.530 --> 1:08:18.510 for some reason, people, most of my life, prior to 1:08:18.530 --> 1:08:21.980 being behind a microphone even, and it happens to me 1:08:22.340 --> 1:08:27.240 when I'm just out in the world navigating everyday life. People, 1:08:27.580 --> 1:08:30.660 I don't know if it's because I make eye contact sometimes. 1:08:32.560 --> 1:08:34.180 I try to be friendly and treat people as I'd 1:08:34.200 --> 1:08:36.580 like to be treated. But people will just approach me 1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:40.280 and start telling me the most insane, crazy things. And 1:08:40.400 --> 1:08:44.220 I have many... friends that are female or friends of friends, 1:08:44.300 --> 1:08:47.220 like their wives, girlfriends are oddly enough, a female. It's 1:08:47.240 --> 1:08:49.960 the way it works sometimes. And, uh, and some of 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:53.019 the women I've dated. And I would tell you that 1:08:53.479 --> 1:08:58.009 the percentage of women that have told me in conversation 1:08:59.410 --> 1:09:06.420 that they themselves or people that they know have been 1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:11.860 victims of some type of sexual assault or impropriety or abuse, 1:09:12.280 --> 1:09:15.140 whether in the home by someone they know or out 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:19.040 in the or university, college, whatever it is, or even 1:09:19.080 --> 1:09:24.820 sometimes at work out, just out and about easily, probably 60% 1:09:24.820 --> 1:09:30.939 and probably more from what I'm told. So what, what 1:09:30.970 --> 1:09:32.479 I want to know is when we come back after 1:09:32.510 --> 1:09:34.030 your 11 o'clock report, we're going to try to have 1:09:34.050 --> 1:09:36.190 some fun too, but I just want, what do you 1:09:36.229 --> 1:09:38.809 tell your daughter? What do you tell your sons when 1:09:38.830 --> 1:09:43.410 you send them off to school? I mean, maybe it's 1:09:43.430 --> 1:09:45.830 because I, I, you know, came from a single mom 1:09:45.850 --> 1:09:50.830 home situation. Dad was absent. And, uh, I, I was 1:09:50.870 --> 1:09:52.870 around a lot of women growing up. I love women, 1:09:53.550 --> 1:09:57.809 you know, that's just what happens, but respecting them and 1:09:57.890 --> 1:10:00.400 knowing the idea that, uh, you know, no means no. 1:10:00.720 --> 1:10:04.120 And the, and I came up in an era, you know, uh, 1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:10.570 late seventies, eighties into the nineties in college. Um, I 1:10:10.590 --> 1:10:14.309 remember it was a joke about Antioch College in Yellow Springs, 1:10:14.370 --> 1:10:19.370 and they had that sort of the acknowledgement mode of, 1:10:19.420 --> 1:10:21.440 are we OK here? It was one of the things 1:10:21.479 --> 1:10:23.120 I made a joke about it even and sort of 1:10:23.140 --> 1:10:24.580 got yelled at on the radio. It was like you 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:26.700 want to sign a waiver every time you want to kiss, 1:10:26.720 --> 1:10:28.770 you want to make out. Can you just initial that, please? 1:10:28.780 --> 1:10:31.190 Can I can I get a notary, please? Can somebody 1:10:31.290 --> 1:10:33.890 witness this? Because you had to get an OK for 1:10:34.010 --> 1:10:36.450 every step of the process of your intimate kind of 1:10:36.490 --> 1:10:38.870 get together scenario. And people joked about it and people 1:10:38.910 --> 1:10:41.230 made fun about it. But, you know, it does help 1:10:42.050 --> 1:10:43.950 to know that the woman's on board. I would think 1:10:43.970 --> 1:10:45.650 that you would be able to know that, but apparently 1:10:45.689 --> 1:10:48.589 that's not always the case, sometimes with deliberate intent, sometimes 1:10:48.630 --> 1:10:53.170 with not, which is wild to me. But in the 1:10:53.229 --> 1:10:57.450 same respect, it can be awkward. It can be uncomfortable. 1:10:57.900 --> 1:11:01.940 But in 2026, headed into 2027 in short order, in 1:11:02.020 --> 1:11:04.300 school just being back in a short amount of time 1:11:04.360 --> 1:11:08.720 at UC and at Miami and at Xavier and NKU 1:11:08.780 --> 1:11:11.019 and Wright State and Dayton, I mean, we have a 1:11:11.100 --> 1:11:14.050 lot of places of higher learning. And even in high school, 1:11:14.090 --> 1:11:17.269 things happen sometimes. What do you tell your sons and 1:11:17.290 --> 1:11:20.470 your daughters about this type of situation? And do you 1:11:20.590 --> 1:11:22.370 ever still now, I find it hard to believe that 1:11:22.410 --> 1:11:27.440 anybody would go, it's her fault. Even though clearly, just 1:11:27.500 --> 1:11:31.960 like the headline says, what was she doing? What was 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:37.570 she looking for? 513-749-7800, the big one. Talk back the 1:11:37.710 --> 1:11:40.469 iHeartRadio app. Another hour to go. The weekend is here. 1:11:40.490 --> 1:11:43.530 It's a Friday night, Sterling. Lee Mowan has your 11 1:11:43.530 --> 1:11:46.950 o'clock report. And we're straight away before Red Eye Radio 1:11:46.990 --> 1:11:49.980 rolls at midnight. Sterling, best Bengals coverage because they play here. 1:11:50.020 --> 1:11:53.500 That's where the Hootie and the Dolphins get it on. Sunday, 1:11:53.500 --> 1:11:56.840 1 o'clock, here, 700 WLW Cincinnati. 1:11:57.320 --> 1:12:04.330 News, traffic, and weather. News Radio 700 WLW Cincinnati. 1:12:04.850 --> 1:12:09.889 Watching Hurricane Isaias with your 11 o'clock report, I'm Lee Mowan, 1:12:10.090 --> 1:12:14.050 breaking now. It's made landfall as a Category 2 hurricane 1:12:14.090 --> 1:12:16.450 after spending much of the day as a Category 3. 1:12:16.450 --> 1:12:20.559 Isaias is now predicted to scoot northwards across the coastal plain. 1:12:21.100 --> 1:12:25.740 It could bring life-threatening flash floods to Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, 1:12:26.220 --> 1:12:26.860 and Ohio. 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:31.260 This is coming in, unfortunately, with high tide. In terms 1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:34.320 of the flooding, it's extensive. It goes from Mississippi all 1:12:34.360 --> 1:12:37.470 the way into the Carolinas. Flood watches for millions and 1:12:37.510 --> 1:12:39.570 several inches of rain. And by Sunday, you're talking about 1:12:39.610 --> 1:12:41.950 this in the Mid-Atlantic and all the way into the Northeast. 1:12:42.050 --> 1:12:43.769 Even right here in New York City, we could have 1:12:43.890 --> 1:12:46.330 one to three inches of rainfall in a dangerous situation. 1:12:46.350 --> 1:12:48.570 But in the South, a half foot of rain locally, 1:12:48.770 --> 1:12:50.490 we could even see a foot of rain. 1:12:50.910 --> 1:12:54.490 ABC's Lee Goldberg locally in the tri-state we're looking at 1:12:54.520 --> 1:12:56.519 a half to about one and a half inches of 1:12:56.620 --> 1:12:59.980 rain with some spots possibly getting over two inches flooding 1:13:00.020 --> 1:13:03.120 concerns for the Cincinnati area are limited at this time 1:13:03.520 --> 1:13:07.230 rain is set to taper off Sunday evening Now your 1:13:07.250 --> 1:13:10.229 latest traffic and weather together. Still seeing the slowdown on 1:13:10.310 --> 1:13:14.900 eastbound 275 just beyond Kellogg Road and US 52 East. 1:13:15.320 --> 1:13:18.000 That is heading towards Five Mile Road. Give yourself a 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:21.600 little extra time. They are working around that area for construction. 1:13:21.620 --> 1:13:24.939 Other than that, no other reports to share on the 1:13:25.060 --> 1:13:28.290 OGO map, on the KYTC map, and on the INDOT map. 1:13:29.310 --> 1:13:33.510 Now, the latest forecast from the Jake Sweeney Chevrolet Weather Center. 1:13:33.810 --> 1:13:39.559 Jake Sweeney Chevrolet Tri-County, serving the tri-state for over 100 years. Together, 1:13:39.760 --> 1:13:40.410 let's drive. 1:13:40.600 --> 1:13:44.040 Heading for Saturday morning, mainly cloudy, a 7 a.m. temperature 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:48.360 of 58. Our Saturday rain chances by midday, a high 1:13:48.380 --> 1:13:52.320 of 73. At night, storms, heavy rain and winds to 1:13:52.320 --> 1:13:56.320 35 miles an hour, a low of 59. On Sunday, 1:13:56.400 --> 1:13:59.860 scattered showers continue and a high of 69. 1:13:59.860 --> 1:14:00.880 From your severe. 1:14:00.580 --> 1:14:05.429 Weather station, I'm 9 First Warning Chief Meteorologist Steve Raleigh. 1:14:05.810 --> 1:14:06.650 News Radio 700 WLW. 1:14:08.830 --> 1:14:11.630 It's a clear radar in 65 degrees. Your game day 1:14:11.670 --> 1:14:14.990 forecast is coming up in sports. UC police are looking 1:14:15.030 --> 1:14:18.220 into four cases of sexual misconduct, and a Cleveland native 1:14:18.270 --> 1:14:22.080 is indicted on one of those. Court documents declare Kamarian 1:14:22.120 --> 1:14:25.380 Lampkin admitted to touching a victim's private areas numerous times 1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:28.480 in Daniels Hall back on September 2nd. He's been indicted 1:14:28.520 --> 1:14:30.890 by a Hamilton County grand jury for rape and gross 1:14:30.900 --> 1:14:34.330 sexual imposition. Two more assaults were reported at Daniels Hall 1:14:34.350 --> 1:14:38.360 last month, with another from University Park Apartments. No suspects 1:14:38.380 --> 1:14:41.260 have been arrested at this time. It's 12 and a 1:14:41.300 --> 1:14:44.599 half years for Genghis Khan Ali Stevenson for drug possession 1:14:44.660 --> 1:14:48.000 at CVG. Law enforcement encountered him before he boarded a 1:14:48.020 --> 1:14:52.310 flight to Los Angeles late March 2024. Over 250 grams 1:14:52.350 --> 1:14:55.330 of fentanyl was seized from Stevenson's bag, plus over $ 15, 000 1:14:55.050 --> 1:14:59.350 in loose cash. He's also been convicted for carjacking and 1:14:59.430 --> 1:15:02.550 robbery in his past. Once his 150 months are up 1:15:02.610 --> 1:15:06.349 in prison, Stevenson gets five years of supervised release. 1:15:06.350 --> 1:15:11.250 700 WLW Sports. 1:15:11.670 --> 1:15:14.910 A game you heard on 1360 and 1530. It's St. 1:15:15.030 --> 1:15:20.049 X defeating LaSalle, becoming kings of the North Bend Road, 38-14. Elsewhere, 1:15:20.130 --> 1:15:25.990 McNicholas takes down Kettering Altar, 20-7. Goshen edges Clinton Massey, 27-23. 1:15:26.350 --> 1:15:30.320 Plenty of offense in this one. Turpin, 63. Lebanon, 60. 1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:35.340 Valley View defeats Edgewood, 28-10. Elder over Highlands, 30-27. Waning 1:15:35.400 --> 1:15:38.160 field goal with four seconds left in the game. Newport 1:15:38.180 --> 1:15:42.530 Central Catholic 17, Newport 6, and Batesville 56, Greensburg 15. 1:15:42.520 --> 1:15:46.890 Wide receivers Jamar Chase and T. Higgins officially questionable for 1:15:46.939 --> 1:15:52.030 Sunday afternoon's game in Miami. Also questionable, Swayze Bozeman, Colby Young, 1:15:52.170 --> 1:15:56.439 and Brian Cook. Kyle Duggar is officially out. Your game 1:15:56.460 --> 1:16:00.019 day weather for that contest, you will have isolated thunderstorms 1:16:00.080 --> 1:16:02.660 in the Miami area, the high reaching 92, and it 1:16:02.700 --> 1:16:03.940 will feel like triple digits. 1:16:04.360 --> 1:16:05.680 It should be dry for kickoff. 1:16:06.040 --> 1:16:09.440 Your game day forecast is built by TLGPU Built Cincinnati, 1:16:09.479 --> 1:16:12.400 keeping customers for life. Our coverage starts at 9 o'clock 1:16:12.439 --> 1:16:17.059 Sunday morning on 700 WLW and ESPN 1530. Meantime, FC 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:20.780 Cincinnati returning to action at Alaya United tomorrow night. However, 1:16:20.860 --> 1:16:25.250 without one crucial piece... Evander is out. Coverage starts at 1:16:25.250 --> 1:16:28.530 7 o'clock on Fox Sports 1360. However, the Orange and 1:16:28.550 --> 1:16:31.229 Blue have signed midfielder Jose Martinez for the rest of 1:16:31.270 --> 1:16:34.979 the season with an option through June 2027. Your next 1:16:35.060 --> 1:16:37.640 update is at 1130 with breaking news anytime. 1:16:38.140 --> 1:16:38.879 I'm Lee Matwin. 1:16:39.040 --> 1:16:40.729 News Radio 700 WLW. 1:16:40.780 --> 1:16:44.530 This report is sponsored by Ohio Division of Unclaimed Funds. 1:16:44.830 --> 1:16:48.250 Life gets busy and sometimes things slip through the cracks. 1:16:48.590 --> 1:16:51.490 This is Lieutenant Governor Jim Trestle reminding you to check 1:16:51.530 --> 1:16:53.420 for unclaimed funds. 1:16:53.420 --> 1:16:57.200 1130 report in 20 minutes and 30 seconds if you're 1:16:57.220 --> 1:16:59.500 keeping track. And Russ Jackson's here. And then Red Eye 1:16:59.540 --> 1:17:01.820 Radio rules. And I'll be back in tomorrow. But first, 1:17:01.900 --> 1:17:04.130 in between us, you've got Gary Chapp, and then you've 1:17:04.150 --> 1:17:06.550 got Mike Allen, and then you've got Ken Brew. Mike 1:17:06.630 --> 1:17:08.590 Allen Jr., excuse me. I guess they tag in and 1:17:08.610 --> 1:17:10.630 tag out. One's dad, one's not. Well, the other guy 1:17:10.670 --> 1:17:12.229 is a dad, too. He's got a baby. Anyway, I 1:17:12.270 --> 1:17:13.550 don't have time to get into all that. I got 1:17:13.570 --> 1:17:17.210 stuff to do. I want to ask this because this 1:17:17.270 --> 1:17:20.450 is wild. And I heard Ed and Rock talking about 1:17:20.470 --> 1:17:22.650 this the other day, and I had watched this, too, 1:17:22.729 --> 1:17:26.430 and I was somewhat surprised. Going back to the first 1:17:26.490 --> 1:17:31.070 part of the year, the prop acts in The Shining 1:17:31.130 --> 1:17:34.849 that Jack Nicholson used to, like, get into the bathroom. 1:17:34.890 --> 1:17:38.050 I was like, here's Johnny. And he was trying to 1:17:38.070 --> 1:17:41.070 get through the door. I suppose if you were going 1:17:41.090 --> 1:17:44.080 to have a movie prop and there was a time 1:17:44.200 --> 1:17:47.160 probably 20, 25 years ago now, it's hard to believe 1:17:47.640 --> 1:17:50.260 there were all these all-star cafes that were all over 1:17:50.300 --> 1:17:53.760 the place. You did like all kinds of movie stuff. 1:17:54.120 --> 1:17:57.350 Planet Hollywood was big all over the place as well. 1:17:57.570 --> 1:18:00.050 Like Columbus, I know had a location that one point 1:18:00.070 --> 1:18:02.729 that did shut down a lot of places with all 1:18:02.790 --> 1:18:05.250 kinds of memorabilia all over and what have you. And 1:18:05.550 --> 1:18:07.809 people like to have stuff from, you know, the stuff 1:18:07.830 --> 1:18:10.010 they grew up with stuff that means something to them 1:18:10.450 --> 1:18:13.550 and so on. And, uh, apparently, and I was sort 1:18:13.590 --> 1:18:15.700 of surprised. I mean, if you're, if you're going to 1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:18.900 unload an ax from like the shining, I figured it'd 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:21.220 be worth a little bit more money, uh, than it was. 1:18:21.260 --> 1:18:22.800 They expected to get somewhere in the neighborhood of a 1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:26.680 million us dollars, about 800,000, uh, or 800,000 pounds. It 1:18:26.720 --> 1:18:28.479 didn't quite work out that way. As I understand it, 1:18:28.479 --> 1:18:30.890 it was more, uh, somewhere around 30 grand or something 1:18:30.910 --> 1:18:34.330 like And I know now in July and I was 1:18:34.370 --> 1:18:36.269 just talking to Russ off the air about this, and 1:18:36.310 --> 1:18:38.790 this is just astounding to me. If you're a fan 1:18:38.850 --> 1:18:42.309 of like Star Wars Empire Strikes Back, you might remember 1:18:42.370 --> 1:18:45.530 Luke Skywalker had that hand lopped off with the lightsaber 1:18:46.250 --> 1:18:49.930 that sold for three million seven hundred fifty thousand dollars. 1:18:50.590 --> 1:18:53.890 which is the most money ever coughed up for a 1:18:53.950 --> 1:18:57.470 prop used in a Star Wars film. I don't know 1:18:57.530 --> 1:19:00.190 what you do with a severed hand. I, I, maybe 1:19:00.210 --> 1:19:01.590 you put it on a box on the wall on 1:19:01.610 --> 1:19:04.689 the mantle. I, I, I, I mean, look, I, I, 1:19:04.790 --> 1:19:08.450 and I'm not the right one to say about memorabilia 1:19:08.550 --> 1:19:10.269 and stuff, but I'm asking you, I mean, I've got 1:19:10.310 --> 1:19:12.820 stuff I've accumulated over the years doing work that I've done. Uh, 1:19:13.860 --> 1:19:16.200 but the closest thing of weird stuff, I mean, I, 1:19:16.620 --> 1:19:18.640 years ago I was a teenager and I can neither 1:19:18.660 --> 1:19:20.599 confirm nor deny any knowledge of this. And I know 1:19:20.660 --> 1:19:22.960 it's more than seven years. Cause I, I, I'm like 1:19:22.960 --> 1:19:26.680 50 plus now. Um, There was a sign at a 1:19:26.700 --> 1:19:28.800 gas station. It was a magnetic thing on a pump 1:19:28.840 --> 1:19:31.760 that said pay before pumping. And my buddies and I 1:19:31.800 --> 1:19:34.080 thought that was the funniest damn thing we'd ever seen. 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:35.769 And one of us snatched it, ended up being on 1:19:35.780 --> 1:19:37.550 the back of the car. And it's still on my 1:19:37.610 --> 1:19:41.050 refrigerator to this day. And it has traveled everywhere with me. 1:19:41.450 --> 1:19:43.350 But that is not like a movie prop. So what 1:19:43.390 --> 1:19:45.759 I'm wondering is this. Of all the movies, all the 1:19:45.800 --> 1:19:48.720 TV shows, the stuff that you would like, you know, 1:19:48.780 --> 1:19:52.640 be into. what is it that you would love to have? And, 1:19:53.180 --> 1:19:55.760 you know, for yourself, whether you, you know, cough up 1:19:55.800 --> 1:19:57.080 a whole bunch of cash or not, I don't know 1:19:57.100 --> 1:19:59.760 what the value is to you or whatever. I don't 1:19:59.780 --> 1:20:03.570 know if I'd want Luke Skywalker's, a prop severed hand, uh, 1:20:03.630 --> 1:20:06.350 but maybe why not? Uh, the lightsaber might be cool. 1:20:06.370 --> 1:20:08.860 People like to collect a lot of things. I know that, uh, 1:20:08.890 --> 1:20:12.330 they have, I've seen the Batmobile or a facsimile of 1:20:12.350 --> 1:20:15.990 the Batmobile on 71. It's been a while ago. And 1:20:16.010 --> 1:20:18.570 I remember when I was a young man, a teenager, uh, 1:20:19.740 --> 1:20:21.500 there were people that they had this thing called, it 1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:25.160 was the Carl Casper's custom auto show. And I remember 1:20:25.240 --> 1:20:27.540 working that at Harrow arena when I was a teenager 1:20:27.979 --> 1:20:29.940 and they had a Batmobile there, but it was the 1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:33.519 original Batmobile. And then there was another like car show. 1:20:33.560 --> 1:20:35.660 I saw a bunch of them. So people love the Batmobiles. 1:20:35.740 --> 1:20:38.210 And I know the Joe Burrow apparently at one point 1:20:38.229 --> 1:20:41.210 in time, supposedly was supposed to be in the market 1:20:41.250 --> 1:20:42.650 for one. And I don't know if he didn't get 1:20:42.670 --> 1:20:44.710 it or may have been after like that weird thing 1:20:44.750 --> 1:20:45.630 happened at his house. 1:20:46.350 --> 1:20:46.590 Yeah. 1:20:46.610 --> 1:20:46.689 Yeah. 1:20:47.320 --> 1:20:50.220 After they heisted his house or boosted his house or 1:20:50.240 --> 1:20:52.099 whatever and that whole deal, I think he backed away 1:20:52.140 --> 1:20:54.480 from that, which I don't blame him. Because, I mean, 1:20:54.740 --> 1:20:59.180 he already is, like, notable. I mean, hard to get 1:20:59.220 --> 1:21:02.320 away from the Batmobile. So what would you want, though? 1:21:02.880 --> 1:21:06.309 Any movie prop from a set, from a scene. You know, 1:21:06.439 --> 1:21:10.030 the little Chucky doll. It's Halloween season, horror movies and all. 1:21:10.310 --> 1:21:12.770 Would you want a Michael Myers hat? No, Rosebud? Yeah, 1:21:12.790 --> 1:21:16.670 there you go. Would you want what else? I'm trying 1:21:16.710 --> 1:21:21.170 to think. maybe something from any one of the saw, 1:21:21.250 --> 1:21:25.180 a little tricycle. Maybe you could get a rubberized shark 1:21:25.220 --> 1:21:27.460 from Jaws. I mean, I have no idea what you're 1:21:27.479 --> 1:21:32.700 into that goes along with that. You know, nice. Elliot 1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:36.640 just messaged me from Worthington. He said he liked the 1:21:36.680 --> 1:21:40.440 ball gag from Pulp Fiction. That is oddly obscure and 1:21:40.700 --> 1:21:44.020 very disturbing, but I appreciate it. You can get interactive 1:21:44.100 --> 1:21:47.740 at Sterling Radio on X as well. That's That's troubling. 1:21:48.260 --> 1:21:49.460 I think that's when he said he was going to 1:21:49.500 --> 1:21:52.200 call some heavy-hitting pipe something. I can't say the rest 1:21:52.260 --> 1:21:54.389 of it on the radio stuff after something had gone 1:21:54.430 --> 1:21:58.270 wrong in that basement in that weird pawn shop or whatever. 1:21:58.710 --> 1:22:02.790 So thank you for that. That's pretty good. 513-749-7800, the 1:22:02.970 --> 1:22:06.670 big one. One of those things that always comes to mind, 1:22:06.930 --> 1:22:09.689 and it's– depending on the show, I mean, any of 1:22:09.729 --> 1:22:11.710 the Fast and Furious vehicles, I mean, there's a whole 1:22:11.750 --> 1:22:13.650 bunch of those. I mean, those are– I guess those 1:22:13.670 --> 1:22:16.660 would count as a movie prop, right? When I was 1:22:16.720 --> 1:22:18.740 a kid, I would have wanted like a fire truck 1:22:18.780 --> 1:22:21.710 or something from like Emergency or one of those shows 1:22:21.770 --> 1:22:25.290 or something like that. But, you know, things change over time. 1:22:27.010 --> 1:22:29.189 Russ Jackson says he watched the Starsky and Hutch car. 1:22:29.470 --> 1:22:31.330 That would be good. And see, they brought that back 1:22:31.390 --> 1:22:34.930 because then they made the movie in relatively recent times. 1:22:34.950 --> 1:22:37.990 It's not just like a late 70s, early 80s show 1:22:38.410 --> 1:22:43.439 that sort of goes along with that. 513-749-7800, the big one. 1:22:44.260 --> 1:22:46.930 There are no shortage. I mean, they just keep making movies. 1:22:47.020 --> 1:22:49.750 They just keep doing it. And there is no shortage 1:22:49.790 --> 1:22:53.179 of stuff that sort of goes along with interest of it. 1:22:53.210 --> 1:22:55.550 And it could be really just about anything else that 1:22:55.590 --> 1:23:03.010 goes from it or whatever else, too. Oh, this is weird. Also, someone– 1:23:03.790 --> 1:23:09.050 this is wrong. And it said from– can't understand hang 1:23:09.070 --> 1:23:11.470 on i gotta prove this otherwise what was it you 1:23:11.490 --> 1:23:15.009 just said russ i'm sorry oh the ferrari from magnum 1:23:15.030 --> 1:23:17.670 pi yeah that would certainly count i'm sure that's around 1:23:18.270 --> 1:23:21.110 uh whether it's the latest one uh or the original 1:23:21.150 --> 1:23:23.980 magnum either way both sweet rides just the same that 1:23:23.990 --> 1:23:26.180 sort of go along with that you can date yourself 1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:28.200 and go back to rockford files and all those other 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:30.640 shows that are reruns now on tv that sort of 1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:32.479 go along with that which i think is kind of 1:23:32.500 --> 1:23:36.040 cool um I don't know what movie this is from. 1:23:36.080 --> 1:23:39.120 She says, what about the people that were clones in 1:23:39.160 --> 1:23:43.960 the movie where they were all hanging up in a warehouse? I, I, 1:23:44.400 --> 1:23:50.050 I guess Mel would want Melanie. She signs it. Mel, uh, 1:23:50.110 --> 1:23:54.870 would want a, a clone like figure in a, in a, 1:23:55.470 --> 1:23:57.550 in a tube. I mean, yeah. I mean, I don't 1:23:57.570 --> 1:23:59.010 know what you do with it. It'd be great to 1:23:59.050 --> 1:24:00.769 have on the porch or in the yard when the 1:24:00.790 --> 1:24:04.179 kids come trick or treating on Halloween, uh, But, I mean, 1:24:04.340 --> 1:24:05.860 I guess you've got to pick your spots and the 1:24:05.900 --> 1:24:08.269 stuff that interests you or whatever else that goes into it. 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:10.860 I asked the question. I'm not harshing on anybody, but 1:24:10.890 --> 1:24:13.350 that certainly goes into that as well. Let's get to 1:24:13.390 --> 1:24:17.210 Bethel and Steve with Sterling on 700 WLW. Hey, Steve, 1:24:17.229 --> 1:24:17.830 what's going on? 1:24:19.090 --> 1:24:21.910 What's up, brother, besides being part of my family when 1:24:21.950 --> 1:24:22.349 you're on? 1:24:22.510 --> 1:24:25.150 Well, I appreciate that. Well, thank you. I appreciate you 1:24:25.180 --> 1:24:28.360 being here and listening, and you're part of mine. What 1:24:28.400 --> 1:24:30.900 is it that you're thinking as far as props are 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:32.740 concerned and going along with that? 1:24:34.229 --> 1:24:38.790 Well, I was always a big Daisy Duke fan. I'd 1:24:38.830 --> 1:24:41.330 like to have Daisy Dukes, Daisy Dukes, man. 1:24:41.450 --> 1:24:42.710 Now, would you put them on the wall, or would 1:24:42.750 --> 1:24:43.970 you wear them, or are you going to do something 1:24:43.990 --> 1:24:44.750 weird like sniff them? 1:24:45.890 --> 1:24:48.639 I would probably go to see if my wife could 1:24:48.650 --> 1:24:49.530 still fit in them. 1:24:49.680 --> 1:24:50.189 I don't know. 1:24:50.610 --> 1:24:52.760 They'd be good for the home game. Yeah, I think 1:24:52.780 --> 1:24:53.940 that'd be all right. 1:24:54.400 --> 1:24:56.639 And I could have the whole outfit, too, the whole 1:24:56.900 --> 1:24:59.320 tie and the whole shirt there and everything. 1:24:59.700 --> 1:25:01.060 I think you could do that. It sounds like a 1:25:01.100 --> 1:25:02.960 good weekend at the house of Steve to me is 1:25:02.979 --> 1:25:04.860 what I'm thinking. Steve, I appreciate the call, man. Thank 1:25:04.880 --> 1:25:08.820 you for being on the show as well. 513-749-7800, the 1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:15.150 big one. Norman Bates, mom from all the movies there 1:25:15.170 --> 1:25:18.490 with the Bates Hotel and that whole deal, right? I 1:25:18.530 --> 1:25:20.809 suppose the psycho thing. So, I mean, you could have 1:25:20.910 --> 1:25:25.750 like the fake, you know, body or something that goes 1:25:25.810 --> 1:25:27.670 along with that. I mean, I'll go a step further. 1:25:28.970 --> 1:25:30.950 I always thought it'd be cool to play like a 1:25:31.010 --> 1:25:35.150 dead guy on one of these like mystery shows or 1:25:35.189 --> 1:25:36.810 whatever else. It used to be like there was a 1:25:36.830 --> 1:25:39.570 show that I think it's still available streaming on like HBO. 1:25:40.050 --> 1:25:44.470 And people were begging to be dead people in six 1:25:44.510 --> 1:25:46.650 feet under because they'd have some like weird way they'd 1:25:46.670 --> 1:25:49.130 go depending. And then, you know, you get to be 1:25:49.170 --> 1:25:51.530 there in the same thing with like a lot of 1:25:51.550 --> 1:25:55.030 the law and orders. But sometimes they would be dummies. Otherwise, 1:25:55.070 --> 1:25:57.090 you just have to lay there and try not to 1:25:57.150 --> 1:26:00.480 breathe while they're like filming. and be good at that. 1:26:00.840 --> 1:26:02.610 So you best be able to hold your breath or 1:26:02.650 --> 1:26:04.810 something along those lines, or, or otherwise you wouldn't be 1:26:04.830 --> 1:26:09.120 able to handle it. Uh, everybody apparently is, uh, doing 1:26:09.160 --> 1:26:14.230 some social media stuff today. Um, Yoda, uh, I would 1:26:14.270 --> 1:26:16.410 love a Yoda if I could get a Yoda doll 1:26:16.530 --> 1:26:18.980 or the baby from the new TV series. I don't 1:26:19.000 --> 1:26:20.580 know if it's the same Yoda, if that's a dad 1:26:20.600 --> 1:26:24.160 Yoda or other on the new series that's running. I'd 1:26:24.180 --> 1:26:25.360 have to look into that. It could be like the 1:26:25.400 --> 1:26:27.320 baby Yoda. He's already small. I don't know how much 1:26:27.360 --> 1:26:29.800 smaller they could be, but I would love to have 1:26:30.020 --> 1:26:33.630 a baby Yoda like sitting shotgun in the vehicle driving. 1:26:34.170 --> 1:26:35.850 You know, I think that'd be cool. Just sort of 1:26:35.890 --> 1:26:40.140 sitting up there. You could probably do that as well. 513-749-7800, 1:26:40.310 --> 1:26:44.880 the big one. Talking about movie props. I just, I 1:26:44.920 --> 1:26:49.420 can't imagine, you would have to, aside from just the interest, 1:26:49.500 --> 1:26:51.939 you just have to have money you didn't care about 1:26:52.600 --> 1:26:55.130 to look to be spending, you know, the money they 1:26:55.170 --> 1:26:59.090 did for this lightsaber in the Luke Skywalker hand that 1:26:59.130 --> 1:27:01.430 had been lopped off in The Empire Strikes Back with 1:27:01.490 --> 1:27:06.270 a nice cauterization there. three and three quarters million dollars. 1:27:07.290 --> 1:27:11.250 That's huge. I mean, that would handle retirement for somebody. 1:27:11.290 --> 1:27:13.150 I wonder who actually owned it, if that was the 1:27:13.330 --> 1:27:16.810 film company, if that was like, because like if I 1:27:16.830 --> 1:27:20.910 was Luke Skywalker, the actor, guy playing him, and they 1:27:21.130 --> 1:27:23.250 lopped off my hand from that, I think I would 1:27:23.310 --> 1:27:27.990 want the fake prosthetic, you know, severed hand. Mark Hamill, 1:27:28.030 --> 1:27:29.670 thank you very much. I appreciate it, Russ. I can't 1:27:29.710 --> 1:27:33.729 remember everything yet. short-term memory and blunt head trauma. It'll 1:27:33.750 --> 1:27:36.090 do that. To pick one, Fred with Sterling on the 1:27:36.110 --> 1:27:37.439 big one, do you got a movie prop or a 1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:39.599 TV prop you'd like to have for your very own? 1:27:40.840 --> 1:27:43.800 I want the Plymouth Fury from the Blues Brothers movie. 1:27:44.680 --> 1:27:46.559 I wonder if that's still out there, if you'd have 1:27:46.580 --> 1:27:48.740 to find another to make it look like it. 1:27:49.560 --> 1:27:51.910 There's a couple guys that run around dressed as the 1:27:51.950 --> 1:27:54.599 Blues Brothers, and they've got one painted up like it, 1:27:55.050 --> 1:27:57.969 and they've got this big, gigantic speaker on the top 1:27:58.030 --> 1:28:01.670 of this play's Blues Brothers music on it. It's pretty cool. 1:28:01.729 --> 1:28:03.890 Now, do they travel and do appearances, or do they 1:28:03.930 --> 1:28:05.830 just randomly do this in their free time? No, they 1:28:05.850 --> 1:28:06.430 do it for money. 1:28:07.650 --> 1:28:09.950 Yeah, we went to the Hot Rod Power Tour in 1:28:10.130 --> 1:28:14.229 Indy a year ago, and they were in the Power Tour. 1:28:14.390 --> 1:28:15.110 That's pretty cool. 1:28:15.390 --> 1:28:21.610 So they cruised the whole route. from Indianapolis to Julia, Illinois, 1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:22.979 turned back over. 1:28:22.820 --> 1:28:25.840 To Norwalk, Ohio. No kidding. That had to be a 1:28:25.900 --> 1:28:28.340 weird thing for somebody just not knowing what was going 1:28:28.479 --> 1:28:30.100 on to be on the road and start seeing the 1:28:30.100 --> 1:28:32.280 spectacle of this caravan of people rolling. 1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:34.450 Oh, I would love to pass them on the interstate. 1:28:34.450 --> 1:28:35.040 No question. 1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:37.370 Fred, I appreciate the comment. and Andy, you're listening and 1:28:37.390 --> 1:28:39.710 being a part of the show on a Friday night Sterling. 513-749-7800, 1:28:39.729 --> 1:28:45.050 the big one. You know, that is one of those, 1:28:45.110 --> 1:28:47.410 I remember being a little kid, I got so geeked 1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:50.479 up when I saw that Batmobile on the road once, 1:28:50.520 --> 1:28:52.420 and it had to have been, it wasn't on a trailer. 1:28:52.460 --> 1:28:53.900 Like the first time, I remember I was with my 1:28:53.979 --> 1:28:57.250 aunt and uncle in the car on 75th. And I 1:28:57.310 --> 1:29:00.019 am going crazy. And this is before they were pushing 1:29:00.060 --> 1:29:02.900 the idea of seatbelts and everything else. And I would sit. 1:29:02.939 --> 1:29:05.220 You want to talk about dangerous. Today, they would call 1:29:05.220 --> 1:29:09.420 241 kids and look to lock somebody up. The armrest 1:29:09.479 --> 1:29:11.709 in the car in the backseat is where I would sit. 1:29:12.430 --> 1:29:15.189 No seatbelt. I just wanted to be able to see, 1:29:15.250 --> 1:29:18.130 so I'm checking out everything. And I remember seeing what 1:29:18.150 --> 1:29:20.030 looked like the Batmobile, and my uncle's like, what kid? 1:29:20.070 --> 1:29:22.910 There's no Batmobile. And then we saw it. It was 1:29:22.950 --> 1:29:24.570 the most amazing thing. I'm like, can we follow it? 1:29:24.570 --> 1:29:26.210 He's like, no, no, no, no. We have places to 1:29:26.250 --> 1:29:29.500 go and stuff to do. But I was just ecstatic. 1:29:29.920 --> 1:29:32.620 For like weeks, I was like, I saw the Batmobile! 1:29:33.020 --> 1:29:35.939 And people were like, dude, whatever. To Florence and Bill 1:29:36.100 --> 1:29:38.640 with Sterling on 700 WLW. How you doing, man? 1:29:39.640 --> 1:29:40.710 Well, my name's Jim. 1:29:41.020 --> 1:29:43.300 Oh, Jim, I'm sorry. It says Bill. That's my bad. 1:29:43.340 --> 1:29:45.400 That's all right. That's all right. 1:29:45.479 --> 1:29:46.820 Anyway, I know what I want. 1:29:47.000 --> 1:29:47.640 A new car. 1:29:47.880 --> 1:29:48.639 You want a new car? 1:29:49.590 --> 1:29:50.160 A new car. 1:29:50.229 --> 1:29:57.470 I mean, I want the 429 Mustang that Steve McQueen drove. 1:29:57.930 --> 1:29:59.110 Oh, was that the getaway? 1:30:00.729 --> 1:30:01.030 Yeah. 1:30:01.250 --> 1:30:01.750 Yeah. 1:30:01.890 --> 1:30:04.310 I wouldn't give you the original. I don't want the 1:30:04.330 --> 1:30:05.849 original one. I don't care if it's a clone. 1:30:05.910 --> 1:30:06.990 I want a brand new one. 1:30:07.270 --> 1:30:08.670 That would be nice, wouldn't it? If you could work 1:30:08.689 --> 1:30:11.110 that out, that'd be good. Yeah. Well, you can buy 1:30:11.150 --> 1:30:13.759 yourself a Mustang. They are available, if I'm not mistaken. 1:30:14.450 --> 1:30:14.979 Well, I know. 1:30:15.020 --> 1:30:16.479 You can buy a clone of anything. 1:30:16.680 --> 1:30:17.100 Yeah. 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:19.500 But don't ever buy any junk in China. 1:30:19.760 --> 1:30:20.280 No. 1:30:20.820 --> 1:30:22.500 I mean, everything is mock-ups. 1:30:23.320 --> 1:30:26.080 Oh, you mean the mock-ups of the vehicles and stuff. Right, right. 1:30:26.120 --> 1:30:26.260 Yeah. 1:30:27.830 --> 1:30:29.519 Yeah, but anyway, it's a pleasure to speak to you. 1:30:29.530 --> 1:30:30.510 I listen to you all the time. 1:30:30.550 --> 1:30:30.979 Well, thank you. 1:30:30.990 --> 1:30:31.370 You're the best. 1:30:31.390 --> 1:30:33.230 Thank you, Jim. I appreciate it. I'm glad you're on 1:30:33.270 --> 1:30:35.070 the show, and that would be kind of cool. 1:30:35.610 --> 1:30:35.809 Yeah. 1:30:36.070 --> 1:30:37.970 Remember, there was a cool, what was it? Was it 1:30:38.110 --> 1:30:41.810 Follows or something? There was a kid, or not a kid. 1:30:41.840 --> 1:30:44.040 It was a movie when I was a kid, and 1:30:44.060 --> 1:30:46.180 I remember staying up late. It was like Bob Shreves, maybe. 1:30:46.220 --> 1:30:49.360 It could have been, you know, Dr. Creep, Shock Theater. 1:30:49.380 --> 1:30:50.940 Could have been the cool goal back in the day. 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:53.160 You got to be of a certain age when there 1:30:53.180 --> 1:30:55.900 were local TV shows like that all over the place. 1:30:56.390 --> 1:30:58.349 Grass Pine Playhouse, which is one of the reasons why 1:30:58.370 --> 1:30:59.849 I ended up wanting to do this, to be honest. 1:30:59.890 --> 1:31:01.790 I'm like, wait a minute. I'm up later than I'm 1:31:01.830 --> 1:31:04.350 supposed to be on the weekend watching TV. And he's 1:31:04.470 --> 1:31:06.910 up and he's got girls hanging around and guys hanging 1:31:07.010 --> 1:31:09.310 out and they're drinking and having a good time and 1:31:09.350 --> 1:31:12.890 showing stupid movies. I was like, how do I do that? 1:31:13.750 --> 1:31:17.870 And well, here I am. Anyway, movie props that you 1:31:17.890 --> 1:31:20.570 might want to get your hands on. We've gone through 1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:24.040 a few. 513-749-7800, the big one. Let's take care of 1:31:24.060 --> 1:31:26.220 some commerce. Come back in a minute, give you a 1:31:26.260 --> 1:31:28.879 chance to sound off. We've got to roll until midnight. 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:31.810 Red Eye Radio after that, then back tomorrow afternoon after 1:31:31.860 --> 1:31:38.610 Ken Brew, right here on 700-WLW. Iowa State, rather, and 1:31:38.650 --> 1:31:42.630 BYU right now. BYU at home, 7-3, leading Iowa State. 1:31:45.570 --> 1:31:50.070 And let's see, Iowa and Washington getting at it right now. 1:31:50.830 --> 1:31:56.559 Washington at home, and Iowa ranked number 20, 34-10 over Washington. 1:31:56.570 --> 1:32:00.200 That would be UW for those uninitiated. And they're in 1:32:00.220 --> 1:32:01.939 the third quarter with about three minutes left. So all 1:32:01.960 --> 1:32:03.920 that's going on. Bearcats for the week off, try to 1:32:03.960 --> 1:32:05.680 figure it out, and then try to get their winning 1:32:05.720 --> 1:32:08.200 ways in line. And we'll see how that works in about, what, 1:32:08.620 --> 1:32:13.880 eight days? Bengals on the road in Miami. They'll be 1:32:13.900 --> 1:32:16.160 doing it up on Sunday afternoon. We were talking about 1:32:16.200 --> 1:32:18.730 movie props and so forth. A couple people messaged and said, 1:32:18.970 --> 1:32:20.730 how can you not mention any of the Marvel or 1:32:20.790 --> 1:32:24.349 DC Comics stuff from all those movies, either action figures 1:32:24.790 --> 1:32:27.700 or clothes and that type of stuff? You're right. All 1:32:27.740 --> 1:32:29.500 that stuff. I mean, for a whole lot of people, 1:32:29.840 --> 1:32:32.480 I'm asking the question. I can't come up with everybody else's. 1:32:32.500 --> 1:32:34.960 So you're interested. That's a good thing. Yeah, for sure. 1:32:34.979 --> 1:32:38.880 I totally get it. 1130 report straight away. You can 1:32:38.920 --> 1:32:41.229 certainly sound off on that. We'll open it up to whatever. 1:32:41.270 --> 1:32:43.530 But we got other stuff to get to as well. 1:32:44.070 --> 1:32:46.570 And then back again tomorrow. And I want to mention 1:32:46.590 --> 1:32:47.990 this because people go, you don't show enough love to 1:32:48.130 --> 1:32:50.309 FC Cincinnati. But, I mean, we've got so much going 1:32:50.350 --> 1:32:54.670 on here on the big one. But FC Cincinnati in 1:32:54.790 --> 1:32:59.290 action tomorrow, doing it up in Atlanta, 7.30 kick, and 1:32:59.310 --> 1:33:02.090 that'll be on ESPN 1530. So there you go on that. 1:33:02.510 --> 1:33:05.090 All right. News time. Lee's got it. Your chance to 1:33:05.110 --> 1:33:07.370 get interactive on the other side. We go till midnight. 1:33:07.450 --> 1:33:14.200 Sterling 700 WLW. It's emotional distress. Russ Jackson hanging out 1:33:14.420 --> 1:33:18.460 with me, Sterling. Yeah, you are too. 700 WLW. We're 1:33:18.500 --> 1:33:20.760 talking about movie props and stuff that'll mess you up. 1:33:21.820 --> 1:33:22.139 Man. 1:33:24.189 --> 1:33:26.210 Let me get Chris, by the way, in Westchester. We 1:33:26.290 --> 1:33:28.570 were talking about stuff you'd want because they're selling a 1:33:28.890 --> 1:33:34.030 lightsaber with Luke Skywalker's severed hand from The Empire Strikes Back. 1:33:34.430 --> 1:33:40.820 Somebody sent me a note about... the 1962 incredible Hulk comic. 1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:44.090 Number one, that's in good condition. That's for sale. He says, 1:33:44.100 --> 1:33:45.470 if you're looking for a prop, I don't know, it's 1:33:45.510 --> 1:33:48.160 not really a prop, but it's certainly a cool comic. Uh, 1:33:48.650 --> 1:33:52.070 they say there's a 63 comic that apparently is estimated 1:33:52.110 --> 1:33:55.389 to sell about 15, uh, sell for about 15,000 pounds, 1:33:55.430 --> 1:33:58.330 which is what about 18 to 20 grand. I think, uh, last, 1:33:58.570 --> 1:34:01.570 I don't, I haven't converted some dollars in a while. Uh, 1:34:02.270 --> 1:34:03.430 so I, I mean, I don't know what that'd be 1:34:03.470 --> 1:34:05.970 worth to somebody, somebody else, uh, It says it would 1:34:05.990 --> 1:34:07.410 be like $ 35, 000 or something. 1:34:07.510 --> 1:34:07.969 I don't know. 1:34:08.070 --> 1:34:09.430 How do you value that? I think it's a matter 1:34:09.450 --> 1:34:10.890 of how much you want and how much you need and, 1:34:11.490 --> 1:34:14.120 I guess, a market. I mean, that's like coins, right? 1:34:14.620 --> 1:34:17.060 I mean, there's scarcity, and then there's like what's gold 1:34:17.100 --> 1:34:19.300 worth or what's silver worth. Not that you can weigh 1:34:19.340 --> 1:34:21.420 them down or melt them down legally, but, I mean, 1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:24.280 you get my meaning. Chris, how are you? How's everything? 1:34:24.300 --> 1:34:25.469 You were sterling on the big one. What do you 1:34:25.479 --> 1:34:27.430 have movie prop-wise that you think, this would be cool 1:34:27.450 --> 1:34:27.950 if I could get it? 1:34:30.540 --> 1:34:31.320 If it was me? 1:34:31.500 --> 1:34:32.320 Yeah. 1:34:32.460 --> 1:34:34.660 Like I said, back in the day, one of my 1:34:34.700 --> 1:34:37.060 favorite movies was One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. 1:34:37.120 --> 1:34:37.380 For sure. 1:34:37.400 --> 1:34:39.970 I thought that was a great movie. I would like 1:34:40.010 --> 1:34:43.650 to have, believe it or not, the big water fountain 1:34:44.590 --> 1:34:49.090 that the Indian actor throws through the window at the 1:34:49.189 --> 1:34:52.820 end of the movie. The big thing that Jack Nicholson 1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:55.520 vets everybody that he can pick up and nobody can. 1:34:55.820 --> 1:34:58.480 It's bolted to the ground, and the big Indian at 1:34:58.520 --> 1:35:00.610 the end of the movie just rips it out of 1:35:00.630 --> 1:35:03.129 the ground and throws it out the window and escapes. 1:35:03.890 --> 1:35:05.130 That would be a cool prop. 1:35:05.170 --> 1:35:07.450 That really would be a cool prop. I wonder what 1:35:07.610 --> 1:35:10.630 happened to that gear that sort of goes along with 1:35:10.650 --> 1:35:12.630 that whole thing. That movie, I think I may have 1:35:12.689 --> 1:35:14.710 seen before I should have seen it as a kid. 1:35:14.770 --> 1:35:17.900 It really, I don't want to say it traumatized me. 1:35:18.650 --> 1:35:20.080 Yeah, it can. 1:35:20.140 --> 1:35:22.360 If you're a child and you see that movie, that 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:25.400 can kind of mess you up because it's definitely an 1:35:25.420 --> 1:35:28.439 adult-oriented movie. But yeah, if you're a kid... Some of 1:35:28.460 --> 1:35:31.200 the things like the electric shock and, you know, the 1:35:31.630 --> 1:35:35.010 people walking around just half naked and, you know, urinating. 1:35:35.310 --> 1:35:37.260 That would kind of throw you off a little bit 1:35:37.300 --> 1:35:37.540 if you. 1:35:37.479 --> 1:35:37.920 Were a kid. 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:42.070 But I thought when I was a teen and, It 1:35:42.170 --> 1:35:44.870 was just a great movie. Some of the best. I mean, 1:35:44.910 --> 1:35:46.429 Danny DeVito came from that. 1:35:46.530 --> 1:35:47.810 Christopher Lloyd. 1:35:47.870 --> 1:35:48.170 Yes. 1:35:48.350 --> 1:35:50.310 I mean, we had some great actors come out of 1:35:50.350 --> 1:35:54.530 that movie. And that was their first movie. If there 1:35:54.570 --> 1:35:57.090 was one other one I would want, I would want 1:35:57.290 --> 1:36:02.710 what I consider the most Hollywood ironic death for any 1:36:02.910 --> 1:36:07.100 actor in Hollywood. And that would be Patrick Swayze. Okay, remember, 1:36:07.180 --> 1:36:11.940 Patrick Swayze died of cancer, okay? His very first role 1:36:12.100 --> 1:36:16.479 in television, in all of acting, was on MASH. I 1:36:16.520 --> 1:36:19.720 would love to have his uniform, because in MASH, the 1:36:19.760 --> 1:36:23.500 very first role he played was as a patient who 1:36:23.540 --> 1:36:25.240 they discovered has leukemia. 1:36:25.260 --> 1:36:25.920 I did not know that. 1:36:25.939 --> 1:36:27.580 That was his very first role. 1:36:27.720 --> 1:36:27.960 Wow. 1:36:28.060 --> 1:36:30.380 And for him to die that way, too, I just 1:36:30.420 --> 1:36:32.820 think that that's a very ironic death for an actor. 1:36:33.020 --> 1:36:35.410 It's your first role. is how you die. 1:36:35.790 --> 1:36:37.090 I mean, that's pretty wild. 1:36:37.170 --> 1:36:39.490 Yeah, that is wild. That is very weird, actually. 1:36:39.510 --> 1:36:39.690 Yeah. 1:36:39.750 --> 1:36:40.710 Chris, I appreciate the comment. 1:36:40.729 --> 1:36:41.010 Thank you. 1:36:41.050 --> 1:36:42.650 Now I got to start thinking about like all the 1:36:42.750 --> 1:36:46.900 symbolism that goes with like all of that stuff. 513-749-7800, 1:36:47.180 --> 1:36:50.340 the big one. Oh, this is wild. And from the 1:36:50.439 --> 1:36:56.660 Wicker Man, Elizabeth says the, the doll that was burnt 1:36:58.950 --> 1:37:03.450 in the Wicker Man. And she, So, yeah, I forgot 1:37:03.470 --> 1:37:05.710 about that movie. I might have to check that out again. 1:37:05.770 --> 1:37:09.930 That's pretty wild. One of the others, somebody else. Let 1:37:09.950 --> 1:37:12.910 me see. I'm just paging down here looking. The Wizard 1:37:12.950 --> 1:37:16.670 of Oz, Dorothy Slippers. Yeah, I think they have been 1:37:16.970 --> 1:37:19.990 like traded more than one time that I can recall 1:37:20.100 --> 1:37:23.559 over the years. I mean, that movie is like, what, 1940, 1930, 1:37:23.540 --> 1:37:25.660 somewhere in there. I mean, it was old when I 1:37:25.680 --> 1:37:28.800 was a kid in reruns that aired every year. And 1:37:28.860 --> 1:37:30.479 it was one of those things that you just, as 1:37:30.520 --> 1:37:31.860 a kid, you watch, you sit in front of the 1:37:31.880 --> 1:37:35.520 TV and check it out. So I totally get that. Marcus, 1:37:36.500 --> 1:37:39.200 who says he's downtown checking out Blink and the lights, 1:37:39.550 --> 1:37:44.110 says X-Men Origins Wolverine. He would like the weapon that 1:37:44.150 --> 1:37:49.050 Hugh Jackman, Hugh Jackson, Jack, Jackman. I can't talk for nothing. 1:37:49.250 --> 1:37:51.830 Please excuse me. Hugh Jackman's weapon. And that would be 1:37:51.850 --> 1:37:54.189 kind of cool. I think the claws, like the hand 1:37:54.229 --> 1:37:56.340 would be, you know, that he has would be pretty 1:37:56.360 --> 1:37:59.750 awesome to go along with that. And the mask, obviously, 1:37:59.790 --> 1:38:03.590 that sort of goes with that, too, with Loki and 1:38:03.870 --> 1:38:05.790 goes with that, too. So a couple of people mentioning that. 1:38:06.110 --> 1:38:09.810 To Fairfield and Dan now with Sterling on the big one. Dan, 1:38:09.830 --> 1:38:10.340 how are you? 1:38:11.540 --> 1:38:12.600 Hey, I'm good, sir. 1:38:12.640 --> 1:38:13.219 How are you doing? 1:38:13.260 --> 1:38:15.020 I have no complaints. Trying to have a little fun. 1:38:15.060 --> 1:38:18.299 We were serious early. We're goofing off now before midnight. 1:38:18.320 --> 1:38:20.560 And I'll be back tomorrow afternoon after Ken Brew. And 1:38:20.580 --> 1:38:22.780 I'm glad to talk to you. So life is good. 1:38:24.010 --> 1:38:24.509 All right. 1:38:24.590 --> 1:38:25.210 Yes, it is. 1:38:26.000 --> 1:38:28.150 What is it that you got as far as like 1:38:28.189 --> 1:38:30.550 either a movie prop or a collectible? that you'd be like, 1:38:30.570 --> 1:38:31.330 you know, this is the thing? 1:38:32.570 --> 1:38:34.260 Well, it would be a movie prop. 1:38:34.310 --> 1:38:38.680 There was a gentleman called earlier about the Mustang from 1:38:38.760 --> 1:38:40.519 Steve McQueen's movie, The Getaway. 1:38:40.620 --> 1:38:41.040 Yeah, yeah. 1:38:42.200 --> 1:38:43.920 I would love to have. 1:38:43.720 --> 1:38:48.000 The modified Winchester rifle that Steve McQueen used in the 1:38:48.060 --> 1:38:49.719 movie Wanted Dead or Alive. 1:38:50.590 --> 1:38:53.760 It was a series, if I remember correctly. And I'll 1:38:53.800 --> 1:38:57.020 tell you, I was unaware of that show until probably 1:38:57.060 --> 1:39:01.260 the last six months. I kid you not. And I 1:39:01.300 --> 1:39:04.200 had a problem with the one TV. So I had 1:39:04.240 --> 1:39:07.309 to use a different streaming thing. And then I realized 1:39:07.350 --> 1:39:10.310 that there's like 400 channels that are available somewhere else. 1:39:10.470 --> 1:39:12.450 And one of them, I think that's all they show 1:39:12.530 --> 1:39:14.170 is that movie or that TV show. 1:39:14.910 --> 1:39:18.630 So, yeah, it's on me TV every Saturday. 1:39:18.890 --> 1:39:21.349 There you go. So that would be kind of cool 1:39:21.370 --> 1:39:24.350 to have, too. I think that'd be I bet somebody 1:39:24.390 --> 1:39:26.250 does have that weapon, that prop somewhere. 1:39:27.550 --> 1:39:28.110 Oh, really? 1:39:28.130 --> 1:39:31.570 I mean, I don't know whether it's a prop master 1:39:31.610 --> 1:39:33.690 or something that I bet somebody else had it. Maybe not. 1:39:33.910 --> 1:39:35.770 I mean, but it seems like something somebody would want. 1:39:35.790 --> 1:39:37.970 It can't just be you. Maybe. 1:39:38.090 --> 1:39:39.770 All right. Yeah, for sure. 1:39:39.870 --> 1:39:41.470 There you go, Dan. I appreciate the comment. Thank you 1:39:41.490 --> 1:39:42.689 for listening and being a part of the show. I 1:39:42.710 --> 1:39:43.210 appreciate it. 1:39:44.280 --> 1:39:45.740 Thank you very much for listening. 1:39:46.000 --> 1:39:50.179 Absolutely. It's why we're here. That's pretty wild. Another Wicker 1:39:50.220 --> 1:39:54.240 Man thing, the Wicker Man doll. Thank you. Following up, 1:39:54.620 --> 1:39:57.360 apparently someone's very fixated on the Wicker Man. That also 1:39:57.400 --> 1:39:59.689 goes back to 2006. That's 20 years ago. That's a 1:39:59.729 --> 1:40:03.670 long time. The burn doll that goes from that. And 1:40:03.750 --> 1:40:07.530 I'll go even further. There was a TV movie called 1:40:07.550 --> 1:40:10.849 The Trilogy of Terror when I was a tiny sterling, 1:40:10.970 --> 1:40:15.490 not much larger than the terrorizing doll. that was cursed 1:40:16.010 --> 1:40:17.790 with a woman by the name of Karen Black, and 1:40:17.830 --> 1:40:20.370 we were talking about Jack Nicholson earlier in The Shining, 1:40:20.850 --> 1:40:23.880 and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, right? He was 1:40:23.939 --> 1:40:25.179 also in a movie called, I think it was called 1:40:25.229 --> 1:40:28.320 Five Easy Pieces, and actually one of those pianos that 1:40:28.340 --> 1:40:29.640 he played there would be kind of cool. I don't 1:40:29.660 --> 1:40:31.559 know if he could really play or not, but he 1:40:31.600 --> 1:40:34.479 might still be playing at Jack's house, you know, it 1:40:34.500 --> 1:40:38.160 could be. But either way, Karen Black was in this trilogy, 1:40:38.200 --> 1:40:42.320 a terror deal, and it terrorized me. There was a 1:40:42.360 --> 1:40:45.370 little doll, that you can search it. I'm sure it's 1:40:45.390 --> 1:40:48.349 streaming someplace now, but it was a little African doll 1:40:48.750 --> 1:40:52.450 that she had acquired somehow. And it said there was 1:40:52.470 --> 1:40:54.870 a chain around it, like its neck or a piece 1:40:54.890 --> 1:40:57.250 of jewelry or something. And supposedly you had to keep 1:40:57.300 --> 1:40:59.220 that on there. And if it came off, the spirit 1:40:59.240 --> 1:41:02.760 would come out. So this little teeny doll came to 1:41:02.820 --> 1:41:05.780 life and then she battles it. And I remember being 1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:08.439 a little kid and I freaked out. I'm like, oh, 1:41:08.460 --> 1:41:10.970 this is terrible. And it was funny. And then in 1:41:11.030 --> 1:41:13.970 the end, she tries to destroy this doll that's possessed. 1:41:14.990 --> 1:41:16.689 And she puts it in the oven. I don't want 1:41:16.710 --> 1:41:18.640 to ruin it, but the movie's older than I am, 1:41:18.840 --> 1:41:22.500 or at least as close. So she bakes it, she 1:41:22.560 --> 1:41:25.019 cooks it. And then all of a sudden, it must 1:41:25.060 --> 1:41:27.380 have escaped the spirit, and then it found her. So 1:41:27.720 --> 1:41:30.390 she calls her mom to come over and see her 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:33.510 to help her. And the closing scene that really freaked 1:41:33.550 --> 1:41:36.070 me out, aside from the little killer doll with his 1:41:36.090 --> 1:41:39.050 little teeny knife, chasing her around. I don't know how 1:41:39.090 --> 1:41:40.570 she couldn't get away from it. It was a very 1:41:40.630 --> 1:41:44.510 scary doll. She's crouches on the floor and she's got 1:41:44.530 --> 1:41:47.970 a butcher knife and she hangs up from a phone 1:41:48.010 --> 1:41:50.689 with her mom and she's coming over and she just 1:41:50.750 --> 1:41:54.009 takes the knife and she's just squatting on the floor 1:41:54.510 --> 1:41:59.260 and she's just tapping that knife into the floor waiting 1:41:59.840 --> 1:42:04.219 for her mom. And she opens her mouth to a big, creepy, 1:42:04.280 --> 1:42:08.160 scary smile. and her teeth are growing, and her eyes 1:42:08.200 --> 1:42:11.839 look all creepy, and that's, as I remember, that particular 1:42:11.860 --> 1:42:14.140 was three stories, but if I remember correctly, that's how 1:42:14.180 --> 1:42:18.120 that story ended, with her mother coming, and Karen Black's 1:42:18.160 --> 1:42:21.349 character in wait, looking to take care of mom when 1:42:21.390 --> 1:42:24.030 she shows up, and that stuck with me for a while. 1:42:24.250 --> 1:42:26.530 The little, I don't care about the knife, but I 1:42:26.550 --> 1:42:29.450 would love that little teeny doll. I don't know where 1:42:29.490 --> 1:42:32.590 it went, nobody would know, maybe somebody associated with it, a. 1:42:34.650 --> 1:42:35.510 Ooh, all right. 1:42:35.550 --> 1:42:38.110 Go ahead, Russ. Russ says he knows about the rifle. 1:42:38.270 --> 1:42:40.490 Yeah, I looked this up. It was called the Mayor's 1:42:40.550 --> 1:42:41.790 Leg is what they called the gun. 1:42:42.150 --> 1:42:42.929 Mayor's Leg, okay. 1:42:42.990 --> 1:42:45.350 It was a sawed-off rifle. There were three of them 1:42:45.400 --> 1:42:50.420 made for the TV show. One was auctioned off for a... 1:42:51.400 --> 1:42:56.640 Donated to a French place called Children's Villages. And it 1:42:56.680 --> 1:42:58.420 was raised in the presence of McQueen when he was 1:42:58.439 --> 1:42:58.840 trying to make. 1:42:59.420 --> 1:43:01.339 He needed money to pay for his cancer treatments. 1:43:01.520 --> 1:43:01.700 Yeah. 1:43:03.200 --> 1:43:06.220 The second one is at the Autry National Center of 1:43:06.240 --> 1:43:07.220 the American West. 1:43:08.200 --> 1:43:09.740 And the third one, they don't know where it is. 1:43:10.650 --> 1:43:14.269 Steve McQueen probably took it. I mean, I would have. 1:43:14.689 --> 1:43:15.469 That's pretty wild. 1:43:15.810 --> 1:43:18.570 The third one, they may still be on the movie. 1:43:18.590 --> 1:43:22.080 People might still have it. Because apparently, it was in 1:43:22.100 --> 1:43:25.639 a case in the movie version of Wanted Dead or Alive. 1:43:26.240 --> 1:43:29.280 That they made with Rutger Hauer in the 80s, where 1:43:29.300 --> 1:43:31.740 he was supposed to be playing McQueen's grandson. 1:43:32.120 --> 1:43:32.460 Really? 1:43:32.720 --> 1:43:34.380 All right. Well, I'll have to look into that. That's 1:43:34.400 --> 1:43:37.020 pretty cool. That's wild, actually, when you think about that. 1:43:37.640 --> 1:43:40.910 And the resonance of that. You know what's amazing, too? 1:43:41.650 --> 1:43:44.630 For whatever reason now, whether you're listening now on the 1:43:44.710 --> 1:43:48.269 iHeartRadio app, because you could shift time. It's a beautiful thing. 1:43:48.290 --> 1:43:50.850 You're in control of your life. We are more than 1:43:50.890 --> 1:43:52.689 we ever have. You can take us with you wherever 1:43:52.720 --> 1:43:56.179 you go. I occasionally get odd pictures from people telling 1:43:56.220 --> 1:43:59.120 me that they're listening to the podcast at work, killing 1:43:59.160 --> 1:44:03.660 time in cubicle walls, occasionally a bathroom, which I don't 1:44:03.700 --> 1:44:06.710 want pictures of bathrooms. It's really unnerving to me to 1:44:06.750 --> 1:44:09.270 think that somebody's listening to a podcast while they're going 1:44:09.290 --> 1:44:12.170 to the bathroom. I appreciate the listening, but I just 1:44:12.189 --> 1:44:15.229 don't want to think of about location in that circumstance 1:44:15.410 --> 1:44:18.110 just kinda odd kinda strange but you know whatever makes 1:44:18.150 --> 1:44:19.950 people happy is all that matters I'm here to help 1:44:20.470 --> 1:44:21.990 you know this sort of goes along with that too 1:44:22.930 --> 1:44:24.769 uh let's see let's get to Miami's Burke the Berg 1:44:24.810 --> 1:44:28.240 and Tom on 700 WLW with Sterling hey Tom what's going. 1:44:28.180 --> 1:44:31.400 On hey Sterling how you doing tonight I'm. 1:44:31.320 --> 1:44:33.820 Pretty good I'm better now that I'm talking to you 1:44:33.840 --> 1:44:36.920 appreciate you listening being a part of the show hey 1:44:36.939 --> 1:44:39.460 not a problem you know I've always wanted a car 1:44:39.540 --> 1:44:44.070 from the movie The Race The Race Help me out. 1:44:44.150 --> 1:44:45.690 I have to look up that movie. 1:44:47.020 --> 1:44:49.360 I do believe it was a Charlie Sheen movie. 1:44:49.420 --> 1:44:51.440 It was an early one back in the, I want 1:44:51.460 --> 1:44:55.600 to say, mid to late 80s. Okay. 1:44:56.140 --> 1:44:58.740 He plays a character that was killed during a drag 1:44:58.780 --> 1:45:01.860 race due to foul play, and he came back as 1:45:02.660 --> 1:45:06.590 a ghost, and he came back with a car that's indestructible. 1:45:07.689 --> 1:45:11.250 It would wreck into the other cars and come out unscathed. 1:45:12.060 --> 1:45:14.940 It would actually put itself back together, like a modern 1:45:15.280 --> 1:45:16.190 Christine version. 1:45:16.410 --> 1:45:17.810 I got you. That's pretty cool. You know, that's a 1:45:17.870 --> 1:45:20.730 very common trope in a lot of films. There was 1:45:20.850 --> 1:45:23.250 the car it follows. I think they redid. There was 1:45:23.330 --> 1:45:25.990 one called The Car. You mentioned The Wraith here. I'm 1:45:26.030 --> 1:45:28.270 looking at it now. They call it an action fantasy film. 1:45:28.610 --> 1:45:30.200 I'll have to look it up. So there's a pretty 1:45:30.220 --> 1:45:31.040 cool ride there, huh? 1:45:32.479 --> 1:45:32.719 Yes. 1:45:33.040 --> 1:45:33.400 All right. 1:45:33.700 --> 1:45:35.309 I'll check that out. Anything else jump out? 1:45:37.540 --> 1:45:40.240 Uh, no, not unless I go to show my age 1:45:40.310 --> 1:45:42.970 and go back to, uh, smoking the bandit and the, uh, 1:45:43.470 --> 1:45:44.350 old Trans Am. 1:45:44.689 --> 1:45:46.830 Dude, I'm right there with you. I worked with a 1:45:46.870 --> 1:45:49.830 guy who, I, I, I worked with a guy when 1:45:49.850 --> 1:45:51.230 I was at the putt putt and I didn't have 1:45:51.270 --> 1:45:53.269 a nice car and I had a date with this 1:45:53.340 --> 1:45:55.040 girl to go to her prom. He let me borrow 1:45:55.100 --> 1:45:57.520 her trans, his Trans Am to take her in. And 1:45:57.640 --> 1:45:59.620 it was, that's all I could think about was smoking 1:45:59.680 --> 1:46:01.890 the bandit at the time. which I'm sure her parents 1:46:01.930 --> 1:46:04.070 were thrilled that I showed up at the house with 1:46:04.110 --> 1:46:07.030 this Trans Am in the day. That's tremendous. 1:46:07.430 --> 1:46:07.870 I bet. 1:46:08.290 --> 1:46:10.130 Tom, I appreciate the call, man. Thank you for being 1:46:10.170 --> 1:46:10.590 a part of it. 1:46:12.010 --> 1:46:12.590 You're welcome. 1:46:12.880 --> 1:46:13.219 You too. 1:46:13.260 --> 1:46:14.910 Have a good night. I'm sorry about that. I prematurely 1:46:14.939 --> 1:46:17.440 hung up. I didn't mean to do it. Itchy finger. 1:46:17.960 --> 1:46:20.059 We use a mouse. It's not like a regular phone. 1:46:20.080 --> 1:46:23.240 I apologize, Tom. Don't hate me. I wasn't trying to 1:46:23.280 --> 1:46:25.200 hang up. I just got a little quick with a finger. 1:46:25.280 --> 1:46:28.500 Sometimes it happens. It's just one of those things. russ 1:46:28.540 --> 1:46:30.420 is right never want to finish early it's terrible bad 1:46:31.000 --> 1:46:32.500 and now it sounds like really you had to pair 1:46:32.540 --> 1:46:34.970 that with this i mean really it's just a tough 1:46:35.020 --> 1:46:36.630 tough spot is it one of those things you got 1:46:36.650 --> 1:46:39.410 to deal with listen uh i i want to uh 1:46:39.710 --> 1:46:41.870 mention another thing that is maybe this will end up 1:46:41.890 --> 1:46:44.990 being something tomorrow but i i saw this because i 1:46:45.150 --> 1:46:49.219 i don't get a lot of kids trick-or-treating but some 1:46:49.460 --> 1:46:53.170 and i remember the back in the covid days And 1:46:53.490 --> 1:46:56.390 Halloween came. So I went out to like, I don't know, 1:46:56.430 --> 1:46:59.200 one of the big box, like, you know, Home Low 1:46:59.320 --> 1:47:00.639 Depot kind of place. 1:47:00.720 --> 1:47:00.900 Right. 1:47:01.620 --> 1:47:04.960 And I got some PVC pipe and I made a 1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:07.600 thing so I could throw the candy bars just to 1:47:07.620 --> 1:47:10.009 keep the kids who were showing up from being scared 1:47:10.020 --> 1:47:11.990 that I might give them the sickness and do that. 1:47:12.430 --> 1:47:14.810 But I don't need the PVC pipe anymore. So now 1:47:14.830 --> 1:47:16.790 I started thinking about a buddy of mine I used 1:47:16.810 --> 1:47:19.439 to work with here. It was like the big boss, 1:47:20.120 --> 1:47:22.979 Randy Michaels. He had a potato cannon and I was like, OK, well, 1:47:23.360 --> 1:47:25.220 I can make a potato cannon. So, you know, I'm like, 1:47:25.460 --> 1:47:28.120 that's fun. But in the meantime, I still got to 1:47:28.150 --> 1:47:30.570 load up on candy. And I've noticed the prices have 1:47:30.590 --> 1:47:35.590 gone up. And apparently this is just amazing. Three times 1:47:35.630 --> 1:47:40.370 the rate of inflation. Halloween candy has gone up 71 1:47:40.370 --> 1:47:42.660 percent since twenty twenty one. 1:47:42.650 --> 1:47:44.650 71%. 1:47:47.150 --> 1:47:49.810 So what I was doing before it got expensive, and 1:47:49.930 --> 1:47:54.030 I'm certainly doing it now, I'm buying candy I want. 1:47:54.450 --> 1:47:56.850 I'm buying the candy that I like. And I probably 1:47:56.870 --> 1:47:58.870 don't really need any candy. But if I'm going to 1:47:58.910 --> 1:48:01.550 buy some candy, damn it, I want candy that I 1:48:01.590 --> 1:48:04.070 want to grub down on. So I'm talking dark chocolate. 1:48:04.090 --> 1:48:07.070 I'm talking Reese's, which they've reformulated back to the old 1:48:07.110 --> 1:48:09.940 days again, and that type of stuff. I'm not talking 1:48:09.979 --> 1:48:13.340 popcorn balls. I'm not giving away apples. I'm not going 1:48:13.380 --> 1:48:17.830 to do... about three or four blocks, which is from 1:48:18.030 --> 1:48:21.950 where I lived as a kid. to the nicer, bigger houses, 1:48:21.990 --> 1:48:23.640 because we were an apartment. We were not in the 1:48:23.680 --> 1:48:26.100 nice area, but a couple of blocks away were the 1:48:26.110 --> 1:48:29.980 big houses. And one of them was a dentist. And 1:48:30.380 --> 1:48:33.939 we still would go because, you know, But the guy 1:48:33.979 --> 1:48:38.620 gave away baby toothbrushes and baby toothpastes, which is fantastic. 1:48:39.000 --> 1:48:41.000 And then I think the last year I went when 1:48:41.060 --> 1:48:42.800 I was, you know, I'd grown to the point of 1:48:43.380 --> 1:48:46.150 it became weird, like teenagers showing up at your door. 1:48:46.189 --> 1:48:48.090 You're like, really? You could get a job. You could 1:48:48.120 --> 1:48:50.970 go to the candy store yourself. Don't don't cut this 1:48:51.010 --> 1:48:54.330 for little people in that type of situation. So, I mean, 1:48:54.370 --> 1:48:57.490 I had to reevaluate and pick your spots overall about 1:48:57.510 --> 1:49:00.229 the candies that you go after. So it is there 1:49:00.270 --> 1:49:03.850 to see how it is. But that candy in the Halloween, 1:49:03.860 --> 1:49:05.670 you got to buy what you want. None of the 1:49:05.750 --> 1:49:09.470 like they had apples. Later, they got tooth dental floss, 1:49:09.870 --> 1:49:11.650 which is fine. But I don't want to be that guy. 1:49:12.229 --> 1:49:14.800 So I'm going to go in search of. So I 1:49:14.810 --> 1:49:16.860 don't know what people are doing something in lieu of. 1:49:17.240 --> 1:49:18.820 I don't think we're at the time. I mentioned this 1:49:18.860 --> 1:49:22.080 to my mother. And this lets you know where she 1:49:22.160 --> 1:49:23.900 is on this. She goes, well, you could make something 1:49:23.939 --> 1:49:27.970 nice for them or give them some fruit, which, you know. 1:49:29.560 --> 1:49:32.860 It's sort of the same play. I remember this too. 1:49:33.160 --> 1:49:35.710 You'd show up at a house and they would have 1:49:35.890 --> 1:49:38.710 one empty bowl on the porch. And then you wonder, 1:49:38.910 --> 1:49:41.970 did they put an empty bowl out and left it 1:49:42.030 --> 1:49:44.330 to everybody because they didn't feel up to maybe answering 1:49:44.370 --> 1:49:47.430 the door, which I totally understand? Or is it a 1:49:47.470 --> 1:49:51.939 situation where somebody saw it first and was like, well, 1:49:52.000 --> 1:49:54.880 thanks for the candy. And then they just finished their day. 1:49:55.300 --> 1:49:58.460 They're finished their whole trip out to do the trick-or-treating. 1:49:58.880 --> 1:50:00.550 And then could go on about their day. 1:50:00.670 --> 1:50:00.890 Yes. 1:50:01.870 --> 1:50:03.960 They're talking about the apples thing now. 1:50:04.100 --> 1:50:04.300 Yes. 1:50:04.520 --> 1:50:06.300 We had someone who actually dressed up as a witch 1:50:06.380 --> 1:50:07.730 and made you bob for apples. 1:50:08.670 --> 1:50:10.139 When you were a kid or in your neighborhood now? 1:50:10.150 --> 1:50:11.450 When I was a kid in our neighborhood, yes. 1:50:11.710 --> 1:50:12.070 Wow. 1:50:12.310 --> 1:50:13.650 So you would bob for apples? 1:50:14.150 --> 1:50:15.250 Yeah, bob for apples. 1:50:15.830 --> 1:50:17.900 That seems like a lot of work and a liability. 1:50:18.040 --> 1:50:21.340 What happens if a kid chokes? Lord knows. 1:50:21.500 --> 1:50:24.260 In the 1970s, nobody cared about that. 1:50:24.280 --> 1:50:27.520 Well, I know. Now it's the 21st century. It's 2026, Russ, 1:50:27.540 --> 1:50:30.769 showing your age. They will sue you. The water was contaminated. 1:50:30.810 --> 1:50:33.139 The container was... I mean, there's so many things. But yeah, I... 1:50:33.689 --> 1:50:36.150 I could see bobbing for apples. It's kind of fun. 1:50:36.310 --> 1:50:38.550 It sounds like a– you know what it sounds like 1:50:38.610 --> 1:50:40.370 is when I was a kid living in Preble County, 1:50:40.430 --> 1:50:41.990 my freshman year of high school, one of the five 1:50:42.030 --> 1:50:45.040 high schools in Preble County, they had a Halloween carnival thing. 1:50:45.080 --> 1:50:47.500 I'd never been to anything like that, and it was 1:50:47.560 --> 1:50:49.320 very nice and very sweet and like that. But it 1:50:49.340 --> 1:50:52.000 had grown. You could put some booze in it, like 1:50:52.040 --> 1:50:53.680 in a watermelon. But I think time's up. 1:50:54.080 --> 1:50:54.340 I'm done. 1:50:54.810 --> 1:50:56.639 All right. Thank you, Russ Jackson, for doing what you do. 1:50:56.680 --> 1:51:01.400 Lee Mallon, thank you. Midnight Report straight away. Great guest, 1:51:01.439 --> 1:51:05.710 Michael Radelet from University of Colorado, Boulder, talking about the 1:51:05.850 --> 1:51:09.030 issue of crime and punishment and executions. Traggs talking Bengals. 1:51:09.330 --> 1:51:12.420 Morgan Fox talking issues with normal and the legal weed. 1:51:12.770 --> 1:51:14.990 And a lot of great phone calls, too. 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