1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: Live as we do this every year on Christmas Eve 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: here on KFI. Thanks for joining us. You can hear 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: the Jesus Show every Sunday from six to nine am 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: here as well and anywhere in the United States on 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: the free iHeart Radio app. Eight hundred five to zero 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: one five three four. Eight hundred five two zero one 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: five three four is the number to call. If you 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: have a question dealing with God, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible, 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: or if you're going through something in life that you 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: want to talk about, you can give me a call 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: as well. Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. James, 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: Good morning, and thank you for taking this call. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: I appreciate this, and I'm just curious. 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: I just recently. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: Started going to Mass and doing my own following of 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: Christian values and such, and just wanted to get an 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: idea of what you were like as a young teen 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: or early twenties. I know, of course you were at Carpenter. 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: I want to know what your personality was like. 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because some people refer to these as 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: the silent or lost years they're not lost and they're 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: not silent. Scripture is purposeful. It's not a day to 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: day recreation anyway, shape or form. It's more like you know, 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: around this time of the year, people will send out 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: little newsletters about their family with little highlights and little 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: timmy graduated from high school and all these things whatever, 29 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: they break them down, they're just kind of the highlights 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: that are important to what's going on in the family. Well, likewise, 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: scripture is the same, so there is certain parts that 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: are incredibly important that are talked about in scripture. Obviously, 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: of my birth is the starting of it, and then 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: it goes to it goes to a point where I 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: am in the temple and teaching and my parents come 36 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: looking for me, and I say, don't you know to 37 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: be about my father's business. Speaking about specifically being the 38 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: son of God, there is also a scripture that talks 39 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: about that I just grew simply in obedience to my parents, 40 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: listening to them and learning. It also says in Luke 41 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: to fifty two that I increased in wisdom and in 42 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: stature and in favor with God and man, which is 43 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: really interesting because when you're dealing with the hypostatic union 44 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: between my divinity and my humanity. The questions always have 45 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: to be asked twice because you have to ask can 46 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: God learn something? No, not the same way same sense 47 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: that you think about a human learning or taking on knowledge. 48 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: But as man growing up, I still had to go 49 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: through the process of learning to walk and talk and 50 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: do those things that any human did in that way. 51 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: But it says that I was doing those things. I 52 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: was studying, practicing. That's really what it is. I was 53 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: what they referred to as in the carpentry shop during 54 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: those periods. I was being a good son. I was 55 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: doing those things. Now that stops at some point, and 56 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, you can tell that I 57 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: was in town that people knew who I was and 58 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: had interaction with me. Because when I started, when I 59 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: moved from being in what is referred to as the 60 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: carpentry shop, when I moved from being this son of 61 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: Joseph and Mary working in that carpenter carpentry shop and 62 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: doing those things, when I moved from that into my 63 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: ministry at the age of thirty, that you see that 64 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: people reacted in Matthew thirteen fifty five says, is this Jesus, 65 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: the son of Joseph, the carpenter's son, and they start 66 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: asking that in Luke for twenty two, John six forty 67 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: two is referring to the things that I was doing 68 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: during that time prior to being thirty years of age 69 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: when my ministry started. And then that changes even my 70 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: relationship with my mother, because at the wedding of Cana, 71 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm asked by my mother to help this family who 72 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: was going to be ridiculed and embarrassed in the situation 73 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: different than embarrassment today at the wedding for running out 74 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: of wine. And this goes into ancient history and the 75 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: time biblical times of what it meant to be married. 76 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: It was different than now. You'd invite the whole town 77 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: and they would last four days weeks, and there was 78 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: a process of taking care of people during that time. 79 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: And I said, you know, it's not yet mother, it's 80 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: not a woman actually, which is very specific separating and 81 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: changing our relationship from mother and child to savior. And 82 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: now that relationship changes and becomes this powerful moment when 83 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: the first recorded miracle takes place and the ministry is 84 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: changed at that point. Now you have signs and miracles 85 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: and these types of things that were going on there 86 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: that changed the whole relationship. So that is basically what 87 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: leads up to that there's just nothing. Everything was normal 88 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: as far as a child's concerned. That's why people respond. 89 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: It's not like there's some books that are referred to 90 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: as apocryphal or that don't have the earmarks of age 91 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: and authorship and language and things like that that aren't 92 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: canonized in scripture. And there are some that talk about, oh, 93 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: I was knocking birds out of the air with powers, 94 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: and you know, all kinds of weird things. But no, 95 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: that's it. It seals it up nicely in scripture. I 96 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: was doing normal kid things during that period and working 97 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: with my family, and then when it was time to 98 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: go into ministry, that's when you hear about what's going 99 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: on in my life again, because that is what actually 100 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: ties in to scripture and helps to tell the story. 101 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six on demand. 102 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you and your family. We get together 103 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: not only on Sundays from six to nine right here 104 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: on KFI, but also live every Christmas Eve to come 105 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: together and remind you, as the bumper sticker says, the 106 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: reason for the season right and if you have a question, 107 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: a theology question, or life situation question. I'd love to 108 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: hear from you anywhere you can hear my voice dial 109 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: eate one hundred and five to zero one five three four. 110 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: That's eight hundred five to zero one five three four. 111 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: H let's see here, Tony. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi, Tony. 112 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: How can I help you today? 113 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: I'm curious. 114 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 5: More than curious, I'm fascinated with the correlation between the 115 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: possibility of alien contact, which I've come to believe is 116 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 5: going to happen in my lifetime, from being absolute skeptic 117 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 5: to believing it's going to happen. But the correlation between 118 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 5: scripture and the possibility of alien metaphors or maybe even 119 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: literal of you know, alien and outer space type entities 120 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 5: being described in the Bible. 121 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, in. 122 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: Theology and studying of scripture, there's something called exegete and isogate, 123 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: and when that means there is a time where you're 124 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: taking information from scripture, and then there's times where people 125 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: read into scripture based on views. And you see this 126 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: when it comes to politics and things like that. People 127 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: always trying to push their views into scripture rather than 128 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: learning from the views that are in scripture naturally, So 129 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: when it comes to aliens meaning extraterrestrials life forms as 130 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: similar to humans, meaning that they are sentient in the 131 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: sense that they can think and reason and all of 132 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: these things in the same way, there's nothing really in 133 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: scripture that would back that up. There are talks of 134 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: people going through Ezekiel and looking at the wheel in 135 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: the sky or trying to look towards some of these things. 136 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: There are times when I in scripture say things like 137 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: there are others that are not of this flock, But 138 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: that's talking about the difference between Jews and Gentiles. A 139 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: scripture said first to the Jews, second to the Gentiles. 140 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: So when it's talking about the flock, it's talking about 141 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: the separation between the Jews and the special nature of Judaism, 142 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: and then the Gentiles, which came later the Christianity and 143 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: so forth. So that's not talking about other life on 144 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: other planets or anything like that either. So some people 145 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: will read into that. One of the biggest issues that 146 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: I think is never talked about Tony when it comes 147 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: to this is a verse in Hebrews Hebrews to sixteen 148 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: through eighteen, and it says that I did not come 149 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: to help the angels, says Jesus did not come to 150 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: save the angels, and then it goes on to say 151 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: that the mission of coming and dying was specifically for 152 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: the children of Abrahim or Abraham, so that it is 153 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: about humanity. That's referring to humanity in scripture, all of humanity. 154 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: So if it's not for the angels, which were created 155 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: and only for humankind, then you have to ask yourself 156 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: some pretty heavy theological and philosophical questions. So does that 157 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: mean that either other life forms are perfect and do 158 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: not need salvation, which there's nothing in scripture that would 159 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: have to mean that there are pluralist gods and not 160 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: monotheism Ishmah Israel deny a god, Hero Israel, the Lord, 161 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: our God. The Lord is one a God, one one God. 162 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: So monotheism now it would break down monotheism and you'd 163 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: need either multiple gods with differfferent ways of dealing with 164 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: each separate planet or each separate life form. You would 165 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: really need to break down. If not, then they're perfect, 166 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: and what is the purpose? Because God says this is 167 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: not the best world Earth, it's the best way to 168 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 2: the best world, which is heaven paradise, and so looking 169 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: at those things, it really is more than just wow, 170 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: there might be life. And then you have to look 171 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: at the scientific aspect of it, the amount of technology, 172 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: and to assume that someone is more technologically savvy because 173 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: they're at a different location is just as strange as 174 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: saying that because you live on Earth and are in 175 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: a different location from someone else than you must be 176 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: the one that is more technologically savage savvy. So when 177 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: you go to the boom in the forties of the 178 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: concept of extraterrestrials in the life and being visited, and 179 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: you look at the stories that were told and the concepts, 180 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: it was based on a lot of things, including a 181 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: smaller amount of building blocks for life. There are more 182 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: building blocks now and actually more understanding rather about the 183 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: building blocks that make life like you as a human 184 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: than there were in the forties and fifties when there 185 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: was proliferation about the belief in extraterrestrials. And then you'd 186 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: have to go to well, they'd have to be so 187 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: far advanced that they could travel at light speed or 188 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: quite honestly faster to be able to travel here and 189 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: make themselves known. So there's a lot of questions in there, 190 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: Tony that are beyond well, Gosh is thesekiel talking about 191 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: the wheel in the sky keeps turning, Sorry journey, But 192 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: if that deals with aliens and all of these things, 193 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: there's much more to it than there are still some 194 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: major scientific exclusions for travel, for connection, for similarity. The 195 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: mathematics as it is, for life to exist on it 196 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: as it is now is a mathematical impossibility save for 197 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: the fact that it exists. So for that to happen 198 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: twice adds even more zeros to that probability. And then 199 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: theologically and philosophically you get into some other things that 200 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: would make, as it stands now scripture obsolete because of 201 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: salvation and God and having one God, not saying I'm 202 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: the God of Earth, but the God of the universe, 203 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: creating all things from heaven and Earth and everything else. 204 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: There's a lot more to it than just the thought, Gosh, 205 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: be neat if there was life somewhere else. 206 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI am six forty on demand. 207 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: Happy to be with you on this Christmas Eve, as 208 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: we are normally with you every Sunday from six to 209 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: nine am. Little fun fact for those playing the home game. 210 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: That was Dave Coots, producer Neil's cousin, Beautiful Voice, beautiful song, 211 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: beautiful person. As a matter of fact, if you have 212 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: a question theology, dealing with God, religion, world views, the Bible, 213 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: or if there's something going on in your life, we 214 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: call them life situations. Believe it or not, they do 215 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: change if things can go from good to bad. For 216 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: some reason, people believe that they can't go from bad 217 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: to good. But they can give us a call. Eight 218 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: hundred five to zero one five three four, eight hundred 219 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: five to zero one five three four Manuel, Welcome to 220 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: the Jesus Christ Show. 221 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: Good Jesus, thank you for receiving my call. Question. My 222 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: question seems kind of simple, but you can guide me 223 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: in the right direction and what they can do. I 224 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: got married to I did all my sacramento as a 225 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: little child, my brothers and sisters, catechism. I got married 226 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: through the church Catholic divorced in two of five, and 227 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: I find out that I cannot receive communion because I 228 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: was married to the church and I have to go 229 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: through the diocese to fill out paperwork to get it 230 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: completed or so I can't do it. Yes, I've done. 231 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: I've gone to church and I've received the host, and 232 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: I tell my friends and family. You can't do it, Junior, 233 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: I'll come, Well, you're buried by the church. You have 234 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: to and this like I wanted. I wanted to compete 235 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: the circle and I feel empty without receiving communion. What 236 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 3: can I do on my end to feel good or 237 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: can I do it? 238 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Manuel, you're talking about the rules 239 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: of the Catholic Church, and if you want to be 240 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: a Catholic, then by their rules you should abide. If not, 241 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: you're not a Catholic. Now then you have to ask 242 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: yourself if it's important to you as a Catholic. Who've 243 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: done the sacraments and did your first communion and I'm 244 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: assuming that in that you also did your confirmation and 245 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: all of those things. You got married in the church, 246 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: And if it is your goal to be a strong Catholic, 247 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: then by their rules you must abide. Now. Is that 248 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: God's wish for you? That's a different question. Is there 249 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: anything in scripture that says sharing or using the communion 250 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: as a memoriam and a reminder of the sacrifice of Christ. No, 251 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 2: there's nothing, but in the Catholic Church. You approach with reverence, 252 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: you bow your head, you respond a man to the 253 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: body of Christ. You consume it immediately, either making what 254 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: is referred to as the throne with the hands or 255 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: on the tongue, extending the tongue. And those are the 256 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: steps that the Catholic Church has prescribed. So if you 257 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: want to be a good Catholic, then you have to 258 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: abide by their rules. Now, Protestants and the like would 259 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: say it is for all those that claim Me as 260 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: their savior, and so that's really what it comes down 261 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: to Manuel as to where you stand. If you're looking 262 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: to be a good Catholic, then yes, their rules are 263 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: the rules. But if you're asking if you are right 264 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: with God, yes, God has covered your sins. My death 265 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: on the Cross was for all and there is nothing 266 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: to be added to it in any way, shape or form. 267 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: That's blasphemy. And so you have to look at things 268 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: that way as to what part you play and how 269 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: that is in your life. But Catholicism, that's controlled by Catholics, 270 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: and you can't call yourself a Catholic and ignore their rules. 271 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense because you can't say, Gosh, 272 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm a circle and then show everybody 273 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: your corners. You have corners, you're That's just that's how 274 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: they define it and everyone. Protestants define it one way, 275 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: Catholics define it another way. Even those within the Protestant 276 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Church have different definitions about certain things. The one thing 277 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: they all agree on is the salvation in the blood 278 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: on the cross. 279 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 280 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: Happy to be with you this Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas 281 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: to you as I'm with you every single Sunday normally 282 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: from six to nine AM. Happy to be with you 283 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: on this day before the celebration of my birth. If 284 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: you have any questions dealing with what's going on in 285 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: your life or theology, your religion, world views, anything like that, 286 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: give me a call. Eight hundred five two zero one 287 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: five three four. That's eight hundred five two zero one 288 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: five three four Antonio. Welcome to the Jesus Christ. Yes, Hi, Hi, 289 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: How can I help you? 290 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 6: I'm a Christian, a new a new Christian that I 291 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: haven't been a Christian that lot about eight eight years. 292 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 6: I was a Catholic. 293 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: I started Catholic. 294 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: And Catholics are Christian. 295 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, okay, thank you. Yes. 296 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 6: And so now that I'm a Christian, I guess I 297 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 6: hear a lot of things, and I get you can 298 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 6: say you watch, you know, Facebook, TikTok and other things, 299 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 6: and then you hear things and that I'm confused of 300 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 6: celebrating Christmas and not celebrating Christmas due to. 301 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: I guess, h paganism. 302 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 7: So I kind of now I let my family, my 303 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 7: son and my wife celebrate, but I kind of don't 304 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 7: inter fear I just say I don't celebrate it. 305 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 6: So I don't know where to stand. 306 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know there's a lot there that can 307 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: be confusing to people, but let's look at it a 308 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: couple different ways. First of all, there is no mandate 309 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: in scripture that says you should celebrate it, and on 310 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: the flip side, there is no mandate that says you shouldn't. 311 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: And one of the scriptures I want to point you 312 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: to is Romans fourteen five and six, and that is 313 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: one person considers one day more sacred than others, another 314 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: considers every day a like. Each of them should be 315 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day 316 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: as special does so to the Lord whoever eats meat 317 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God. 318 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: And whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives 319 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: thanks to God. So basically, what it's saying here is 320 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: is you shouldn't judge people for celebrating Christmas or not 321 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: celebrating Christmas. I think there's a lot of joy in 322 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 2: family connections in Christmas, and it can be confusing to 323 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: the rest of the family and children to not unless 324 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: you have a good reason. If you are worried about 325 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: pagan roots, I will tell you this, there are so 326 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: many different pagan roots that you participate in every single 327 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: day that you would have to take the ring off 328 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: your finger for marriage has pagan roots. The very tie 329 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: around your neck if you wear a tie somewhere has 330 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: pagan or a different belief system roots. There are so 331 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: many different pagan things. The point is you're not celebrating pagans. Basically, 332 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: what Romans is saying there in Romans fourteen to five, 333 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: and it's basically talking about do all things to the 334 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: glory of God. And you're not wrong. Now, you can't 335 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: do something that is against scripture, can't kill somebody to 336 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: the glory or murder somebody rather to the glory of God. 337 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: But it's about doing these things to the glory of God. 338 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: There is absolutely, positively nothing wrong with giving gifts, putting 339 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: up a tree and lights, and celebrating Christmas to the 340 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: glory of God. Zero. So the traditions that you grew 341 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: up with, those things, they're mostly just fine. You can 342 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: put a Nativity scene if you wish, you can do 343 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: these things. If you're worshiping the tree, there's a problem. 344 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: If you're worshiping the Nativity scene, there's a problem. If 345 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: you're worshiping the gifts. If you're worship there's a problem. 346 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: But if you're celebrating and using it as a jumping 347 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: point for kids to learn and to understand the importance 348 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: of giving and connecting and all of those things, there's 349 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: beautiful symbolism and connectivity with the family in Christmas. Don't 350 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: look for the devil under every rock. The devil already 351 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: has enough ground as it is on this planet. You 352 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: don't need to look for evil. So allow yourself to 353 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: enjoy the things of God. Nature is a beautiful thing. 354 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: To take a photo of a sunset, to be a 355 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: gasp when you see a beautiful sunset or something in 356 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: creation is wonderful, you start worshiping the creation. That's the problem. 357 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: So it really to find the balance in there is imperative. 358 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: It's one of those things. And if it was important, 359 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: you know, if there was something there, Antonio, where you 360 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: had to defy something to show the glory of God, 361 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: I'd tell you. But there's not. There is no win 362 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: in not celebrating, especially if it's a family tradition. In 363 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: this sense, all it ends up being is a division 364 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: and separating yourself anymore than celebrating a birthday or celebrating 365 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 2: a wedding itself, you know, those things. It could all 366 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: be traced back to pagan beliefs. And you know, really 367 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: you're going to just start picking apart your entire life 368 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what you can and cannot do. 369 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: Why don't you just glorify God in the process. 370 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, so exactly what I was gonna say, Yes, 371 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 6: we will and then then we'll Yeah, that'll be number one. 372 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: Yes, hold your people tight, Antonio, love on them. And 373 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: in scripture it says do not don't be fearful of 374 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: different foods. The whole thing is people used to you know, 375 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: why you pray before a meal is not only to 376 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: be grateful and thankful to God for the bounty, but 377 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: also that Pagans would kill animals as sacrifices to their 378 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: gods or their belief system, and Christians would say, well, 379 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to eat that, and God says, eat it. 380 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: Just be thankful to God for it and give the 381 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: glory to God, not to whomever they killed it for. 382 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: And therein lies the attitude is to give glory to 383 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: God and all those things. And that covers it in 384 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: the way in which God wants you to be thoughtful 385 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: and mindful. But hug your family, go be with them, 386 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: exchange gifts, love on them, enjoy the spirit of Christmas. 387 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: Read the story of My Birth, whatever it is, but 388 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: connect with any with them, and don't let anybody say 389 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: you can't, because there's nothing in scripture that says you can't. 390 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: KFI A six on demand