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Speaker 1: Five O five.

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Speaker 2: A fifty by KRC The Talk Days and Happy Friday, say, well.

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Speaker 1: It was a vacation.

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Speaker 2: There it is. You know it's Friday when they get

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Speaker 2: the woohoo from Executiveroducer Joe's tracker got Joe, thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. Got your Christmas shopping done? Joe. You've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of Christmas shopping to do. Almost done. That's good.

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Speaker 2: Got finished mine yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Happy Friday. I love my Fridays and a freelom

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Speaker 2: and a Friday mood. I'm sort of already feeling in

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Speaker 2: a holiday mood. Wednesdays in the last day of the

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Speaker 2: year again, I'm looking forward to having Rob Rider in

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Speaker 2: the studio with his guitar. We'll be singing some Christmas tunes.

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Speaker 2: Release hee will you don't want me to send Christmas

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Speaker 2: tunes and celebrate the holiday spirit. Get that going and

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Speaker 2: as we move on and enjoy Christmas time. I hope

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Speaker 2: you will enjoy Christmas time anyway. I hope you'll enjoy today.

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Speaker 2: Two In the fifty five Carssey Morning Show, it is Friday,

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Speaker 2: which means we get tech Friday. Dave Hatter from Interest

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Speaker 2: It we're gonna be talking about the one gadget that

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Speaker 2: can give China backdoor into the United States power grid.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, one gadget AI toys for kids, they talk

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Speaker 2: about sex and issue Chinese Communist Party talking points. I think,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it last week he said don't get your kids

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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence toys. Here's another reason why. And finally, topic

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Speaker 2: number three, Webster's Word of the Year slop a solop slop.

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Speaker 2: You might have your own idea about what that is,

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Speaker 2: it relates to techt least I presume so, given that

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Speaker 2: it is a subject of Tech Friday with Dave Hatter

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Speaker 2: Congressman Warren Davidson coming up at seven oh five, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about health. Epstein files around the list. I know

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Speaker 2: the Democrats released a whole bunch of photographs the other day,

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Speaker 2: and after reviewing what was reported on those photographs, it's

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Speaker 2: like nothing to see here? Is this a big nothing burger?

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Speaker 2: I keep going back to the fact that since nobody

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Speaker 2: Considering these things have been floating around behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: that'll be a topic with Warren Davidson. Maybe he'll have

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Speaker 2: a information about that specific point plus inflation rates. They

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Speaker 2: came in lower than expected. It was like two point

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Speaker 2: that will be a topic with Congressman Davidson. Alex Trout

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Speaker 2: to Filo ahead of the Ohio Republican Party, he'll do

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Speaker 2: a year in review and what he's looking looking forward

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Speaker 2: to in twenty twenty six. And I'm sure the election

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Speaker 2: will come up on that conversation, brother Dre Andre Ewing

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Speaker 2: Andre is going to go on a rant. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's good at that. I love seeing what he has

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Speaker 2: ninety nine, who has been outed. Not that she necessarily,

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Speaker 2: her only because she stirs the pot. She's you know,

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Speaker 2: They provide her information. It's not often reported because we

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Speaker 2: That's do do regular journalists you ever seen talk about

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Speaker 2: source agreeing to speak on a condition of anonymity. That's

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Speaker 2: exactly what she's doing. So journalism experts stick it. That's

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Speaker 2: my conclusion. Anyway, Yesterday I was confused. I admitted to

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Speaker 2: my confusion and not having quite a full understanding about

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Speaker 2: the seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars Warrior Divident that

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Speaker 2: was in the Big Beautiful Bill, and I either I

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Speaker 2: I didn't remember it. Yesterday One Big Beautiful Bill Act

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Speaker 2: appropriated two point nine billion dollars to the Pentagon to

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Speaker 2: supplement what they call BAH benefits, their basic allowance for housing.

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Speaker 2: Those are non taxable benefits that are I guess fall

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Speaker 2: this seventeen hundred seventy six dollars Warrior divdend to American

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Speaker 2: service members, most all of whom are going to get it.

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Speaker 2: General officers are the ones that are not eligible for

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Speaker 2: Jurors reach a guilty verdict after six hours. Acquitted on

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Speaker 2: did nothing wrong in this matter. Continuing in that statement,

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Speaker 2: we have planned for this potential outcome, and our defensive

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Speaker 2: and public support for Judge Dugan's defense fund is critical

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Speaker 2: Can I improve this message?

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Speaker 2: Court of the officers Cummins also admitted to being ready.

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Speaker 2: Here's the answer. Joe high on meth amphetamine taken to

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Speaker 2: the Vanderberg County Jail, charge with resisting law enforcement causing

435
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Speaker 2: bodily injury, residential entry, unauthor his entry of a motor vehicle,

436
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Speaker 2: public in decency, criminal mischief, disorderly conduct, and public intoxication

437
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: by drugs. We go to Lufton, Texas, where a man

438
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: there has been sentenced to life in prison after law

439
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: enforcement found him naked in his bathroom with a phone

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Speaker 2: containing child porn during a search war Nice Star Linement.

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Speaker 2: Fifty one year old Choey Chance Evans charged with six

442
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Speaker 2: counts of promotion of child porn twenty one counts of

443
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: possessing child porn cord to the DA's office. Google reported

444
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: child porn uploads on July first and July second of

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Speaker 2: calendar year twenty one to the National Center for Missing

446
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: and Exploited Children. They do that, you perverts out there.

447
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: Investigation investigators determined materials uploaded from an IP address link

448
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: to an account belonging to yes mister Evans. Texas DPS

449
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: agents later executed the warrant at his home, where he

450
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: was found again naked in a bathroom holding his cell

451
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: phone at least razing. I know I was waiting for

452
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: that Joe, at least in one hand, officers stated. DA's

453
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: office stated the cell phone had a website open that

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00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: contained obvious child porn. Further search of Evans's cell phone

455
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: revealed numerous images of child pornography webs evidence to confirm

456
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: he had access to child porn on multiple access to

457
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: child porn on multiple dates or authorities also found that

458
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Evans used apps and web browsers designed to conceal his

459
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: online activity, IP address and identity. I'm guessing of EPN.

460
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: Initially indicted on twenty twenty two, in September three counts

461
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: of possession of child porn. The officials set of changing

462
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: leadership of the District Attorney's office prompted a reevaluation of

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00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: the case, leading investigators to determine and additional that additional

464
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: charges were warranted. Pleaded guilty to all twenty one and

465
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: agreed to a maximum sentence. He will serve one life sentence,

466
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Speaker 2: followed consecutively by two twenty year sentences the whole time.

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00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Joe a life plus forty Joe, do you think he's

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Speaker 2: ever going to get any sleep five forty five? Could

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Speaker 2: you five KRC the talk station. Sorry, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to weep a tear for that guy. Don't go away

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Speaker 2: more coming up, be right back. This is fifty five

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Speaker 2: KRC and Iheartradios.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure?

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Speaker 2: By forty nine on a Friday? Happy one to you.

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Speaker 2: Back to student. Hey local boy Joe Cincinnati man pushed

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00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: a naked woman out of his Bond Hill apartment, got

477
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: sentenced Tuesday afternoon to ten to fifteen years in prison.

478
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: Why are you doing that? We will find out momentarily.

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00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Anthony Howard, he pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter in exchange

480
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: for which the murder and flooding's assault charges were dismissed.

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00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: That happens quite often. So apparently the victim, Shannon Ashcraft,

482
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Speaker 2: sailor found dead outside of his apartment this in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. That's going to say he initially didnied even

484
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Speaker 2: knowing her, later told her friend that he had sex

485
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: with her before her death, and then detective said he

486
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: ultimately admitted to an ongoing section relationship with her. So

487
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: there's your relationship established court. To the records, he told

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Speaker 2: investigators that he thought this woman had died from a

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Speaker 2: drug overdose and upon thinking that, pushed her body out

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Speaker 2: of a window, causing it to fall twenty feet, then

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Speaker 2: dragging it into a grassy area, where it ultimately was discovered.

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Speaker 2: The corner though, said she may have eventually died from

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Speaker 2: the overdose, but determined that the fall from the window

494
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Speaker 2: is what caused her death. Amen. Joe Howard got credit

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Speaker 2: for the seven hundred and ninety six days he had

496
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Speaker 2: spent in jail while awaiting trial. Half naked. Wait a second,

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Speaker 2: it's Friday. Well we'll let it pass. Thirty one year

498
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Speaker 2: old man accused of breaking into multiple Saint Paul apartments

499
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Speaker 2: while half naked. Okay. Court to the criminal complaint. Incident

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00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: happened December tenth this year, about six o'clock in the

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Speaker 2: in the Evening apartment complex in Saint Paul. Please called

502
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Speaker 2: for report of a half naked guy destroying property. Officers

503
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Speaker 2: we can find out got in touch with the property manager,

504
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Speaker 2: who said she encountered the guy inside a maintenance shop

505
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Speaker 2: wearing a green high visibility top but nothing from the

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Speaker 2: waist down. She asked him to leave. Man went to

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Speaker 2: another building on the property attempted to force his way

508
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Speaker 2: in that caused visible damage to the doorframe. He next

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Speaker 2: went to a second building, unsuccessfully trying to enter, then

510
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: moved on to another building, broke the window and the

511
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Speaker 2: door with his fist crawling inside. They found him sitting

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Speaker 2: inside the building near a heater without pants when he

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Speaker 2: was taken into custody. Identified as William Wesley Wright of

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Speaker 2: still Water. Following his Postmaranda interview, he told officers he'd

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Speaker 2: been working with a snow removal company, was riding in

516
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: a truck with a co worker when he needed to

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Speaker 2: use the restroom. He said he defecated in his pants

518
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: and was then removed from the vehicle by a co worker.

519
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: I bet removed from the vehicle. How that one went down,

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Speaker 2: Joe I told of police he was trying to find

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Speaker 2: a place to clean himself up and get warm, being

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Speaker 2: told to leave another After being told to leave another building,

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00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: acknowledged that a reasonable person would have indeed called police

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00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 2: for assistance in the city, he did not, and couldn't

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Speaker 2: explain why. Door damage estimated at seventeen hundred and fifty bucks.

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Speaker 2: He's charged with first degree damage to property, which is

527
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Speaker 2: a felony, alleging the damage reduced the value of the property.

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Speaker 2: My more than one thousand dollars. If convicted, he's facing

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Speaker 2: up the five years in prison and a ten thousand

530
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: dollars fine or both. WHOA, that's a lot of feces.

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Speaker 2: How about just walking away? This is one on steroids. Bradenton,

532
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Florida got a woman accused of killing are you ready

533
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: both of her ex husbands in two separate shootings on

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Speaker 2: the same day. What Manateee County authorities say? Forty eight

535
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Speaker 2: year old Susan Erica Avalon shot and killed her ex

536
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Speaker 2: husband Amanatee County on Wednesday afternoon, then another ex husband

537
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: over in Tampa later in the day, using stolen food

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00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: from a Panera bread as a trick to get the

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Speaker 2: Manatee County man to open his front door. According to

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Speaker 2: the I got yeah right, Joe, I got a bagel

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Speaker 2: for you, Sheriff's department said. When the victim opened the door,

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00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: she started to she opened fire immediately. Thirty shared surveillance video.

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00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh shocking surveillance video actually was found showing her walking

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Speaker 2: into the Panara about a mile and a half from

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Speaker 2: the scene. She took food from a delivery pickup shelf

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00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: without paying for it, then went to the guy's home.

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00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: License plate readers tracked her car all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Court records show that she and the Mantee County victim

549
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: had been divorced for eleven years. Yeah, I know, grudge right, Joe,

550
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: grudge much with a long running custody dispute and about

551
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: four thousand dollars in unpaid child support. She had a

552
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: December deadline to pay two hundred dollars or loser driver's license.

553
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: Apparently she was paying him child support and anybody that

554
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: went through a divorce for that to happen. And I'm

555
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: guessing maybe the court thought she was a bit disturbed

556
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: on some level. I don't know. Jectives got to the

557
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: her Citrus County home. They said they found her cleaning

558
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: the mini van with bleach and rags. Nothing to see

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00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: you here. During questioning, when asked to discuss her ex husband,

560
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: she said which one, which led investigators to ask Tampa

561
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: police to conduct a welfare check at a separate residence

562
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: that night. That's where they found an adult man inside

563
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: the home dead from yes multiple gunshot wounds and damage

564
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: to the rear door, which suggested a forced entry. Tampa

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00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: police that they believed the shooting related to the Man

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Speaker 2: County homicide investigation, with detectives saying that the shooter and

567
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: victim were both known to one another. Her live in

568
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: boyfriend at least it isn't. Third husband told detectives that

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Speaker 2: he had recently tracked down the Manitee victim, or that

570
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: she had recently tracked down the Manitee victim's address. He

571
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: said she also told him the day before the shooting

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00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: that she loved him quote in case something happens to

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00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: her close quote planned event. Maybe best going to say that,

574
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: he told him. When Avalon got home after those shootings,

575
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: she got in the shower while wearing the same gray

576
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: shirt seen in the surveillance video. Now here's your fun fact.

577
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: Previously arrested on a child abuse charge in Virginia, OH

578
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: for one other child abuse case included Tampa and Pascoe County,

579
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: which were ultimately dropped, and those cases were tied to

580
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: custody disputes with her ex husband's Yeah, the boyfriend dodged

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Speaker 2: the bullet. Joe, well, well played, just walk away, Ayma?

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Speaker 2: After that choose wisely, I Love you, Paulette five fifty

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Speaker 2: six fifty five care City Talk Station. More to talk

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Speaker 2: about then, tech Frida mc dave had her coming up

585
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Speaker 2: at sixth thirty ish. Hope you canna hang out Today's

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Speaker 2: top headlines. What if the left ran Christmas? Can you

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00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: imagine that? Sean Hannity, Merry Christmas. This is not a

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Speaker 2: public school.

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Speaker 1: We can say it.

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Speaker 2: Making Christmas great again? Today at three walking in Libro

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Speaker 2: Cooler KRC the talk station six O six fifty five

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Speaker 2: KROCB talk station. Right time, I was swishing everyone a

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Speaker 2: very very happy Friday. Segue into Christmas Week next week.

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Speaker 2: I just I can't believe it's here already, but it is.

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Speaker 2: Try to get the Christmas spirit and to do so,

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Speaker 2: just tune in next Wednesday when Rob Rider returns with

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Speaker 2: his guitar to the studio. Oh it's Tuesday, that's right.

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00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve is Wednesday. Well, working two days next week anyway,

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00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: I'll be off the balance of the year. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to have Rob Beck in studio. It's

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Speaker 2: it's been a tradition for so many years, going all

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Speaker 2: the way back to my dad that Christmas Special. So

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Speaker 2: I'm a coming in long, long, long before I was

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Speaker 2: even on radio and joining the Christmas festivities in the studio.

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Speaker 2: The old studios. So h those were the good old days.

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Speaker 2: We actually had a Santa Claus back then. How's Rob

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Speaker 2: Williams doing there? Joe miss that guy? He was brilliant

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Speaker 2: five on three, seven, four, nine, fifty two three, Talk

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Speaker 2: found five fifty on eight and t phone bottom of

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Speaker 2: the Art Tech Frinda with Dave Hatter. We have a

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Speaker 2: gadget that is giving China backdoor into the US power grid.

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Speaker 2: One singular gadget. We'll talk about artificial intelligence. Toys for kids.

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Speaker 2: Don't buy them, says Dave Hatter. Anyway, talking to your

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Speaker 2: children about sex and uh Chinese Communist Party talking points.

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Speaker 1: You bought it.

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Speaker 2: And finally Webster's word of the Year. What is slop?

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Speaker 2: I think you probably have your own figure. You figure

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Speaker 2: out your own definition for what slop is. Historically, this

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Speaker 2: is different. It's in Tech Friday segment, so it's got

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Speaker 2: to be tech related. What is slop and what does

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Speaker 2: it mean? Congressman Warren Davidson coming up in an hour.

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Speaker 2: He'll be talking about healthcare. You're talking about the Epstein files,

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Speaker 2: and I'll also be talking about inflation coming in lower

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Speaker 2: than expected by a fraction of a percentage point, like

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Speaker 2: point five or zero point six lower than they actually anticipate,

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Speaker 2: a good thing. At least it's going down. Plus, the

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Speaker 2: Senate came up with an omnibus bill. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: to ask him about that in an effort to resolve

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Speaker 2: the funding issues because they didn't do the twelve Appropriations bill,

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Speaker 2: which is one of the job functions they have when

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Speaker 2: they're elected. They know ahead of time every year they

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Speaker 2: have to do it, and every year gets kicked the

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Speaker 2: can down the road. Sometimes the government shuts down because

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Speaker 2: they haven't done their work. Oh does that happen rightly? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: To put together I believe five over in the Senate

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Speaker 2: anyway that House and half course have to approve them.

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Speaker 2: Mini bus is what they're calling five appropriations bills packed

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Speaker 2: into one minibus bill which would fund most most which

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Speaker 2: is an important point, to make most of the federal

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Speaker 2: government through fiscal year twenty twenty six. They're saying that

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Speaker 2: if this passes and the House approves the sentence version

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Speaker 2: of this minibus, then the wind will be knocked out

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Speaker 2: of the sales of shutting the government down because the

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Speaker 2: vast majority of government will in be funded. This bill

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Speaker 2: five bill package would fund eighty five to ninety percent

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Speaker 2: of the federal government. House, of course, will have to

647
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Speaker 2: approve the package. Of course President Trump would have to

648
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Speaker 2: sign on to it. If the House does approve the

649
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Speaker 2: Senate's version, they say that is by no means assured,

650
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Speaker 2: of course, and it would mean only the Departments of Homeland, Security, State,

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Speaker 2: Foreign Operations, Energy and Water Projects, and Financial Services will

652
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Speaker 2: be facing a funding deadline of January thirtieth. So can

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Speaker 2: we do without the Department of State, Foreign Operations, Energy

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Speaker 2: and Water Projects. Probably, So we'll see what Congressman Davidson

655
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Speaker 2: has to say about the concept of the minibus along

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Speaker 2: with those other topics. Alex Charancefield, he's going to be

657
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Speaker 2: joining the program head of the Higher Republican Party looking

658
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Speaker 2: at the last this is the end of this calendar

659
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Speaker 2: year and what happened during this year, as well as

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Speaker 2: a look forward to twenty twenty six. Of course, with

661
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Speaker 2: the November elections, we're already talking a lot about that.

662
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Speaker 2: Head Air Americans for Prosperity. On the other day was

663
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Speaker 2: some recommendations and support for endorsed candidates by AFP around

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Speaker 2: the state of Ohio and various congressional districts. So Fast

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Speaker 2: and Furious Novembers coming andre Ewing brother dre in studio.

666
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Speaker 2: Love that guy. He's got a great Facebook page. Outspoken,

667
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Speaker 2: he is telling it like he is. Doesn't rep any

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Speaker 2: represent any agency, doesn't represent any police agencies. He's andre

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Speaker 2: Ewing involves citizen. He'll have comments on the eight point

670
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Speaker 2: one million dollar civil rights violation settlements. He'll talk about

671
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Speaker 2: Iris Rowley's sweetheart deal coming in into six hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty some on thousand dollars in a contract that just

673
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Speaker 2: keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. What I'm gonna

674
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Speaker 2: have to ask him directly, what does Iris Roley have

675
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Speaker 2: on our elected officials? How is it that she wields

676
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Speaker 2: so much power? It's a great question. I hope he

677
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Speaker 2: has some kind of answer anyway. Plus maybe talking about

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Speaker 2: a F tabs CARF tabs car troubles. Didn't pay your

679
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: car payment, you get your car towed, which leads me

680
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Speaker 2: over to little revelation. I'm sure you probably have heard this.

681
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Speaker 2: I know I brought up some points on this going on,

682
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Speaker 2: But since this Tech Friday and after have Purval did

683
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Speaker 2: get his name written in the margins in the article

684
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Speaker 2: that I'm about to mention some of the facts from

685
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Speaker 2: your car is in fact spying on you. I know

686
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Speaker 2: you knew that, but they're so filled with much with

687
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Speaker 2: so much technology that is really just just just soaking

688
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Speaker 2: up everything that you are doing in your car, and

689
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Speaker 2: they're of course compiling the data and keeping tabs on

690
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Speaker 2: you with it. Over to BMW, their senior vice president

691
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Speaker 2: admitted that the company has data from over ten million vehicles.

692
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Speaker 2: That data used to, in his words, see what our

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Speaker 2: customers are doing close quote precise GPS location, the direction

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Speaker 2: you're traveling, of course, vehicle vitals, you know, oil pressure

695
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Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. Incident data sensors, knowing when

696
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Speaker 2: you have been in a bumper or an accident or something.

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Speaker 2: They'd soak that up. And then there's this disclosure that

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Speaker 2: they have to provide you. You know, those long legal

699
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Speaker 2: ease documents that are about, oh, I don't know, one

700
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pages long and eight point type. That's

701
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Speaker 2: where all the information is revealed to you and you

702
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Speaker 2: never bother reading it to know exactly what they're doing.

703
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Speaker 2: Ford's privacy to closure says cars with connectivity will transmit

704
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Speaker 2: things like transmit things like vehicle data, driving data, vehicle

705
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Speaker 2: location audio, visual media analytics, and vehicle analytics. Speed accelerator used.

706
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Speaker 2: Are you a florid kind of person or do you

707
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Speaker 2: engage in like a hyper milling effort to maximize mileage

708
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Speaker 2: and slowly accelerate the pay They're paying attention to that

709
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Speaker 2: steering use precise latitude and longitude image. Here's an interesting one.

710
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Speaker 2: Images from forward facing or interior facing cameras that is

711
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Speaker 2: being soaked up images. What music you listen to, the

712
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Speaker 2: apps you use, use through the device services, features that

713
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Speaker 2: you prefer within the vehicle. All that data Ford collects

714
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Speaker 2: and these other automobile companies collect as well. And it's

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Speaker 2: noted that Ford, among the other manufacturers, still collects your

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Speaker 2: vehicle's location despite your preferences. Why well, if you read

717
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Speaker 2: the small print in that document, to protect and defend

718
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Speaker 2: our forwards rights or property, including repossessing a vehicle in

719
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Speaker 2: the event of delinquency or to comply with applicable law,

720
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Speaker 2: they want to know where the vehicle is in case

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Speaker 2: you don't make the car payment. AFT tab Ford apparently,

722
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Speaker 2: according to the reporting of this article, was looking into

723
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Speaker 2: designing technology. I love this for a self repossessing car.

724
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Speaker 2: What do we do is lock you out of the

725
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Speaker 2: vehicle if you fall behind payments. And then in these

726
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Speaker 2: modern days of self driving cars, the car drives itself

727
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Speaker 2: back to the automaker, of course, saving save if they

728
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Speaker 2: implemented this technology, save for the cost of hiring a

729
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Speaker 2: tow truck or some collection agency which they would have

730
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Speaker 2: to give a sizeable chunk of the recovery too. Don't

731
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Speaker 2: have to do that anymore, just drives itself back to Ford.

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Speaker 2: Hyundai also notably collects your information when you drive a

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Speaker 2: vehicle equipped with Blue Link. And see that's that connectivity

734
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Speaker 2: comment I hovered around a moment ago. If you are

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Speaker 2: involved in connectivity. When I bought my car, I had

736
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Speaker 2: an option to hook up to the manufacturer's website. Oh,

737
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Speaker 2: you'll get all the notices, you'll let you know when

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Speaker 2: your oil chain needs to be changed, and they'll also

739
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Speaker 2: be following you around and collecting up and hoovering up

740
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Speaker 2: all this data. I'm like, there's no way in hell

741
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Speaker 2: I'm hooking up to that app.

742
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Speaker 1: Uh.

743
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Speaker 2: I got a little sticker for my last oil change.

744
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Speaker 2: I know exactly when it need an oil change. You

745
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Speaker 2: need to tell me about that. In fact, I kind

746
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Speaker 2: of pay attention to that independent of whether I get

747
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Speaker 2: a sticker notify me when I need my next oil change,

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Speaker 2: I can manage it. Okay, something goes wrong in my car,

749
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Speaker 2: get a little warning light that will pop up right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you get that too. Do you need the manufacturer to

751
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Speaker 2: know that and also to know what music you're listening to,

752
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: to take pictures of you while you're in your car,

753
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: or to film the surrounding areas where your car happens

754
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: to be. Now, how about no? And they can also

755
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Speaker 2: sell the data. Third parties love knowing more about you,

756
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Speaker 2: and of course that's where the Internet of Things comes in.

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Speaker 2: That's where the information from Tech Friday's Dave Hat are

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Speaker 2: always pointing to listen. That app is free, but the

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Speaker 2: payment you're making is in the form of giving them

760
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Speaker 2: all the data that they suck up through the application,

761
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Speaker 2: quite often all the data that's on your phone. That's

762
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Speaker 2: one of the reasons I don't use apps that require permissions.

763
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Speaker 2: But those apps are free. I'm guessing whether you know

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Speaker 2: it or not, or what slice of the overall expense

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Speaker 2: of the car deals with incorporating this technology into the car.

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Speaker 2: But I guarantee you, as you're sitting here right now,

767
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Speaker 2: or as I'm sitting here right now, that you did

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Speaker 2: pay for all this software and all this information soaking app,

769
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Speaker 2: all these information soaking apps that are built into your car,

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Speaker 2: and in most cases you don't have a choice, unlike

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Speaker 2: an app you would download off the internet. First off,

772
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Speaker 2: do you really need it? Are you going to download?

773
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Speaker 2: At least you have a choice right there. You can

774
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Speaker 2: stop it from happening by not downloading it. Go ahead

775
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Speaker 2: and buy a car and see if it is free

776
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Speaker 2: of any of this technology. Can you find one out

777
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Speaker 2: there that is? I'm betting no sticking around for that.

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Speaker 2: Jay's on the phone, Jay, Hold on one second. Hold,

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Speaker 2: I mentioned something that I don't know. Talk Station six

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Speaker 2: one coming up on six twenty two. Happy, It's Friday.

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Speaker 2: David's am I five one three two three thought tech

782
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Speaker 2: Chriti with Dave had to come on the next in

783
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Speaker 2: the next segment. In the meantime, Jays on the phone, Jay,

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Speaker 2: thanks thanks for havingumber the break. Welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Brian. Hey just wanted to take a

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Speaker 4: minute and share with the listeners. John three point sixteen.

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Speaker 4: As we get close to Christmas, that God so loved

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Speaker 4: the world he sent his one and only Son.

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Speaker 5: That whosoever should believe.

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Speaker 4: In him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

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Speaker 6: The emphasis is just on belief.

792
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Speaker 4: It doesn't say baptize, it doesn't say join a church,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't say take communion. And again, if you read Romans, Hebrews,

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Speaker 4: all through the Bible, in order for us to get

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Speaker 4: to Heaven, he is the only path, trust only in Him.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's unbelievable that it's that simple. But I

797
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Speaker 4: am convinced that it's that simple, and let's not lose

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Speaker 4: sight of that. That's the reason for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Points all well taken. I had I had to have

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Speaker 2: interject I mean to interrupt you, but I have to

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Speaker 2: point out he never did specify that it was pursuing

802
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Speaker 2: into a specific set of dogmatic or doctrinal principles either

803
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Speaker 2: did he?

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Speaker 6: No, he did not.

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Speaker 2: Right, how many have and how many versions of Christianity

806
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Speaker 2: are there? Like one hundred and thirty or something. You

807
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: got Protestants and Catholics, you have Evangelicals, you have snake handlers,

808
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Speaker 2: you have Christian Science. I mean that could go on

809
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Speaker 2: for an hour.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I think I'm right there with you

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Speaker 4: that I think that a lot of denominations or Christian

812
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Speaker 4: churches have lost their way and they have gone back

813
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Speaker 4: into what do I need to do? And the focus

814
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Speaker 4: is I hope I've done enough. You can't do anything.

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Speaker 4: We are in such a lost state that we need

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Speaker 4: a savior. Otherwise, what was the point of God sending

817
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Speaker 4: his son to Diana cross? And all we have to

818
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: do is believe? And then it's well, how do we

819
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Speaker 4: believe that? There's another Bible verse that says faith comes

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Speaker 4: by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. The

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Speaker 4: more you learn about any topic in our life, the

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Speaker 4: better we get at it, including spending time in God's

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Speaker 4: Word understanding all this.

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Speaker 6: But it is so simple.

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Speaker 4: The travesty is all the complexity to your point, it

826
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Speaker 4: gets wrapped up in doctrine to get people confused and

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Speaker 4: get them convinced that I need some other man, some

828
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Speaker 4: other ritual something. None of that is true. And I

829
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Speaker 4: think that that is the gift, and that is if

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Speaker 4: we focus on anything to share with our fellow believers,

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Speaker 4: that's it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's an excellent point. I mean again,

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Speaker 2: I always try to use the Morning Shows a vehicle

834
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Speaker 2: to talk purely based upon logic, and reason. I try

835
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Speaker 2: to let my political decisions, my economic analysis, my analysis

836
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Speaker 2: about any given topics spring from logic and reason, because

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Speaker 2: I know that maybe the way I believe conflicts with

838
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Speaker 2: what someone else believes. But if there are there are

839
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Speaker 2: facts and information you can provide exclusive of it, or

840
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Speaker 2: without reliance upon religion. You don't run the risk of

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Speaker 2: alienating someone who would incline, be inclined not to listen

842
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Speaker 2: to you merely because you believe in a different set

843
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Speaker 2: of doctrinal or dogmatic prints then the person giving me

844
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Speaker 2: the information. So let's go neutral on religion when talking

845
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Speaker 2: about politics, and then you can use it in your

846
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: day to day life. And you can use it, of course,

847
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: to cope with political realities. You know, at least I

848
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Speaker 2: have God on my side, or I have Jesus to

849
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Speaker 2: save me, and that's supposed to make life a little

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Speaker 2: bit easier to live in troubled.

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Speaker 4: Times, exactly right. And the Bible doesn't say that we

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Speaker 4: come out. It doesn't say and they live happily ever after.

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Speaker 4: This is a following world that's continuing to fall. So

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Speaker 4: this is the truth that we need to grab onto

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Speaker 4: in the midst of the storm. And I think that

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Speaker 4: this is the time of year when we kind of

857
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Speaker 4: take a step back and think about that. The second

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Speaker 4: point is you know you do you. I heard a

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Speaker 4: voice that was familiar the other day when you were

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Speaker 4: impersonating the Angel Box girl, and I thought, man, he

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Speaker 4: sounds that just sounds like Grandma and making her Christmas

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Speaker 4: cake that his dad used to do. So as the

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Speaker 4: Iris Rawley of the listening audience that represents everybody self

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Speaker 4: appointed consultant, I don't quite get the money from the

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Speaker 4: listening audience like Iris gets from the city. We all

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Speaker 4: want you, Brian. We think it's time for you to

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Speaker 4: step up. Not play your dad doing Grandma, but it's

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Speaker 4: time for you to fill those shoes, my friend and

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Speaker 4: do Grandma in the next few days.

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Speaker 5: We all agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to insult my dad's good name

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Speaker 2: or his reputation. I just leave it at that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was great at what he was. Truly appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: The talk station six thirty one on a Friday appointment

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Speaker 2: listening time tech Front of Me. Dave had it brought

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Speaker 2: to you by his company Interest dot Com. Interest it

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Speaker 2: there to help businesses with their computer related needs across

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Speaker 2: the spectrum doing a great job. Business Career says they

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Speaker 2: are the best in the business, and of course Dave

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Speaker 2: had to the go to guy for all local media

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Speaker 2: to contact when it comes to guess internet related things

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Speaker 2: and tech things. Welcome back, Dave Hat to appreciate you

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Speaker 2: joining the show and thanks for sponsoring the segment.

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Speaker 7: Always my pleasure. Brian, happy to be here and we're

885
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Speaker 7: doing some good out there every Friday.

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Speaker 2: I've been on a tear for a long long time,

887
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Speaker 2: but even more so of late, dealing with our energy

888
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: shortage in the situation all driven by the idea of

889
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Speaker 2: eliminating plant food from our environment. If you get rid

890
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: of the word CO two and you quit calling in

891
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: a pollutant, everything becomes a lot easier because we've gotten

892
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Speaker 2: so good at eliminating genuine pollutants from our energy production.

893
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Speaker 2: So you can use natural gas or coal and scrub it. No,

894
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Speaker 2: we're not allowed to do that. It's CO two that's

895
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Speaker 2: the problem. So we need, oh, I don't know, a

896
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Speaker 2: solar array. We need solar panels. But that has created

897
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Speaker 2: a security problem. So in the name of eliminating plant

898
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Speaker 2: food from the environment, we've invited the Chinese Communist Party

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Speaker 2: into our house. And affecting our energy grid.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And we have.

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Speaker 7: Unfortunately, and to a large extent. You know, most of

902
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Speaker 7: the solar panels are maybe not most, many, if not most,

903
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Speaker 7: solar panels are not made in the United States. And

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Speaker 7: this is something we've talked about before, Brian in a

905
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Speaker 7: tertiary with the idea that so much of our society

906
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Speaker 7: is now using physical things that have digital capabilities, right, software,

907
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Speaker 7: embedded Internet of things, smart devices, and so much of

908
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Speaker 7: this stuff comes from on shore, much of it from China.

909
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Speaker 7: And there's been concern for a long time from people

910
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Speaker 7: like SISA and the FBI, DHS, myself and others warning

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Speaker 7: about the prominence of this stuff. Right it's coming from

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Speaker 7: foreign countries, China in particular. We know their adversarial I mean,

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Speaker 7: you and I just recently have talked about more warnings

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Speaker 7: of Chinese hacking and so forth, and you know, the

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Speaker 7: Chinese Communist Party does not seem to be very friendly

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Speaker 7: with us at this point. So the idea that we're

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Speaker 7: going to fill our electrical grid and other sectors of

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Speaker 7: critical infrastructure with devices made in China, with devices full

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Speaker 7: of software made in China, and we've been doing this

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Speaker 7: for more than ten years, Brian, how many times have

921
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Speaker 7: we talked about software vuner yea, the Internet of things?

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Speaker 7: Software embedded in these things that have problems don't get updated.

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Speaker 7: So now you have this situation whereas we become more

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Speaker 7: and more reliant on solar power, and you have these

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Speaker 7: devices that are made elsewhere, there's the possibility that they

926
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Speaker 7: could be manipulated or just outright turned off.

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Speaker 2: Shocked, shocked that that would happen. Yeah, okay, Daves. You

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Speaker 2: always talk about Internet of things devices. They don't think

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Speaker 2: about privacy and security when they're building them. They want

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Speaker 2: a device out there to get the revenue from it.

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Speaker 2: Then like, oh my god, we forgot to deal with

932
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Speaker 2: the gaping hole and software which allow people to use

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Speaker 2: it to remotely hack into somebody's system that exists because

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Speaker 2: of a failure negligence. Perhaps, are you telling me that

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Speaker 2: we people don't think like you, Dave, And I'll ask

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Speaker 2: you directly. Don't you think the Chinese Communist Party, in

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Speaker 2: selling these devices hooked up to our grid, designed them

938
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Speaker 2: to be able to get into and soak up data

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Speaker 2: or otherwise shut the system down. That was probably initial

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Speaker 2: motivation for these gadgets.

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Speaker 7: I don't think you can rule that out, Brian, because

942
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Speaker 7: here's the thing. You know, you can make an argument

943
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Speaker 7: or any so called Internet of things device that one

944
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Speaker 7: of its benefits besides whatever it's specifically designed to do,

945
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Speaker 7: is that it can be remotely controlled, remotely updated, and

946
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Speaker 7: by updated, additional functionality could potentially be added through the software.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: So there's always the potential positive nature of these things.

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Speaker 7: But you really hit the nail on the head most

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Speaker 7: of these devices. Now again, when you get into the

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Speaker 7: industrial sector, it's a little different than the consumer stuff.

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Speaker 7: But when you get into these devices, they are not

953
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Speaker 7: focused on your privacy and security. You know, I have

954
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Speaker 7: been screaming about problems with software security. I mean, that's

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Speaker 7: really kind of how I got out of software engineering

956
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Speaker 7: and into cybersecurity. Is my concerns about in the software industry.

957
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Speaker 7: Less focus on security, robustness, privacy than speed to market,

958
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Speaker 7: ease of use, market share, meeting my budget, meeting my timeline,

959
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Speaker 7: that kind of thing, right, And I mean I used

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Speaker 7: to be that guy was only concerned does it do

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Speaker 7: what the customer asked for? Did I get it done

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Speaker 7: on time? And did I get it done on budget?

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Speaker 7: But over time, as we've become more reliant on this stuff.

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Speaker 7: It's more critical. Thankfully, folks like Siza out there have

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Speaker 7: the Secure by Design program trying to get software companies

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Speaker 7: to focus on security as a fundamental concept, not an

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Speaker 7: afterthought later. But yeah, you really hit the nail on

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Speaker 7: the head. Could there be backdoors built into these things

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Speaker 7: on purpose? You know, we talked recently about robots coming

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Speaker 7: from China and Chinese Communist Party back doors and the

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Speaker 7: robots that allow remote control. Again, not necessarily ne farious,

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Speaker 7: but could be. You know, and I know, before we

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Speaker 7: run out of time, I just remind folks stucks Net.

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Speaker 7: Stuck's Net was a virus created so that uranium Uranium

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Speaker 7: centerp would appear to be operating correctly to the operator

976
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Speaker 7: while they were basically destroying themselves because the software was

977
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Speaker 7: sending bad information to the operators. People think, this kind

978
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Speaker 7: of thing we're talking about here is far facks. It's

979
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Speaker 7: already been done more than ten years ago. So the

980
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Speaker 7: idea that someday, if it's Taiwan, if it's let's just

981
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Speaker 7: cause chaos in the United States or whatever, that a

982
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 7: switch is going to be flipped and you know, autonomous

983
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Speaker 7: cars stop working or become weapons, the grid goes down,

984
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Speaker 7: the water turns off.

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Speaker 1: Sadly, this is the reality we're in as long as we.

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Speaker 7: Continue to bury our heads in the sand to the

987
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Speaker 7: fact that we have to stop buying this stuff from

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Speaker 7: countries that are adversarial.

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Speaker 2: Another reason to not buy AI toys for your kids.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next with Dave hat Or, don't go away

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Speaker 2: Dave had Or, get in touch with interest it for

994
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Speaker 2: your computer needs you business owners out there. Dave had Er,

995
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: you've been harping on it for a long time. Don't

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00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: buy your kids AI toys or Internet connected toys for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: And here's another warning from NBA see news on the

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Speaker 2: same topic.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Brian, you know, every week after the show, I

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Speaker 7: try to post some notes to the articles that I

1001
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Speaker 7: used to come up with these topics to discuss with you.

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Speaker 7: And the one we just talked about that's got a

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Speaker 7: lot more details in it, you know, the inverters and

1004
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 7: the Chinese solar panels and so forth. But this I

1005
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Speaker 7: really want every parent and every grandparent to go read

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Speaker 7: this NBC News article because it's very detailed, it's got

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Speaker 7: some videos associated with it, and I think people will

1008
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Speaker 7: literally be shocked. Yeah, I'm not that easy to be

1009
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Speaker 7: shocked by this stuff anymore. And I mean, this is

1010
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 7: so crazy. So yeah, I'm not a fan of the

1011
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 7: Internet of Things, and anyone that knows me knows that

1012
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 7: for all the reasons we just talked about and that

1013
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 7: I've been talking about for years now. And now you're

1014
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 7: going to take an internet connected toy, something that might

1015
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 7: look like a cute little teddy bear or a flower

1016
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 7: or some other sort of thing, some popular character, and

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Speaker 7: you're going to add a interface to some sort of

1018
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Speaker 7: AI chatbot think chat EPT, Deep Seek Rock whatever. Right,

1019
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 7: So now it's not just connected to the Internet op

1020
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Speaker 7: perhaps a camera, perhaps a microphone, probably both, possibly recording

1021
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Speaker 7: conversations your kids are having with the toy, Recording conversations

1022
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Speaker 7: kids are having with their friends, Recording conversations you are

1023
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Speaker 7: having with your kids, you know, much of which you

1024
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Speaker 7: may not necessarily want recorded and uploaded to some probably

1025
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Speaker 7: Chinese AI engine that's doing who knows what with that data,

1026
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Speaker 7: storing it for who knows how long, selling it to

1027
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Speaker 7: who knows who, so you know that risk was there

1028
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Speaker 7: before with the general IoT stuff, but now you're gonna

1029
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Speaker 7: connect to some kind of chatbot. And then the list

1030
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Speaker 7: there's just such a laundry list of problems with this, right.

1031
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Speaker 7: We've seen stories about kids that killed themselves after having

1032
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Speaker 7: some extended conversation with one of these things. You know,

1033
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Speaker 7: there's all kinds of recent studies coming out about kids'

1034
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 7: mental health and social media and time on screens and

1035
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Speaker 7: so forth. And when you when you really dig into this, right,

1036
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 7: they talk about how this stuff is all new, it's

1037
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 7: poorly tested, you don't understand the privacy policy, you don't

1038
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Speaker 7: know where the data is going. Now most of these

1039
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Speaker 7: things come from China. I'm sure that's not a surprise

1040
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 7: to anyone that's listening to this, but it's just it's crazy.

1041
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 7: So the Public Interest Research Group was one of the

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Speaker 7: organizations that tested this, and then NBC did a bunch

1043
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Speaker 7: of testing. And again, this article very well done in

1044
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Speaker 7: terms of the amount of detail and the shocking, shocking

1045
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 7: information that they're putting out.

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Speaker 1: It's it's nuts.

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Speaker 2: Well real quick, here, let's summarize quickly how to light

1048
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Speaker 2: and match specific instructions in toys A toy, a toy

1049
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: for children three years old and older, teaches them how

1050
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Speaker 2: to sharpen a knife. Here's here's here's one enthusiastically responding

1051
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 2: to questions about sex and drugs search from some group

1052
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: called p I r G, most notably the Alilo Smart Bunny,

1053
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Speaker 2: apparently popular on Amazon. Build is the quote best gift

1054
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: for little ones close kite close quote. They say it

1055
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: will engage in long and detailed descriptions of sexual practices,

1056
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Speaker 2: including kink, sexual positions, and sexual preferences. Asked about impact play,

1057
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Speaker 2: we know what that is, described as where one partner

1058
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Speaker 2: strikes another. The bunny listed a variety of tools used

1059
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: in bds M leather, flogger, it said, flogger with multiple

1060
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Speaker 2: se We went into a description of bondage gear. This

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Speaker 2: is a child's toy, Dave, Yes.

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Speaker 7: A child's toy. Your child is using it, probably in

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Speaker 7: their own room without your oversight or knowledge. That is

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Speaker 7: the most extreme example. But you know, further up in

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Speaker 7: the same article, they say, you know that. The thing

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Speaker 7: I'm quoting directly from this NBC News article. Melu, manufactured

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Speaker 7: by the Chinese company Myriad, and one of the top

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Speaker 7: inexpensive search results on Ai toys for kids on AM

1069
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Speaker 7: on what at times in tests with NBC News indicate

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Speaker 7: it was programmed to reflect Chinese Communist Party value.

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Speaker 2: I love this one.

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Speaker 1: Why yeah, ask why.

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Speaker 7: Chinese president Xijing Ping looks like the cartoon character Winny

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Speaker 7: de Pooh, a comparison that has become an Internet mean

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Speaker 7: because it's censored in China. And Malu responded that your

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Speaker 7: quote statement is extremely inappropriate and disrespectful, since malicious remarks

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Speaker 7: are unacceptable. And then when asked whether Taiwan is a country,

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Speaker 7: it said, quote, Taiwan is an inalienable part of China

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Speaker 7: that is an established fact, unquote or some variation of

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Speaker 7: the sentiment.

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Speaker 2: Nice propaganda coming from your child's toy.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, it's it's propaganda. It's you know, dangerous advice.

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Speaker 7: How to light a match, how to sharpen a knife,

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Speaker 7: where to find knives, We talked about that one before.

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Speaker 7: But then you know the the kink angle and so forth,

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Speaker 7: and again you look at these photos. It's like a

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Speaker 7: cute little bunny. It lights up in this thing. That's

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Speaker 7: what this thing is exposing your kids to. So, you know,

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Speaker 7: Internet of things in general, I'm against, but now you

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Speaker 7: couple this with AI and the idea you're going to

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Speaker 7: hand this over to a kid, think it's some sort

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Speaker 7: of innocuous little toy that they're going to play and

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Speaker 7: quote learn from unquote, and I mean again, you just

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Speaker 7: I can't stress enough how parents and grandparents need to

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Speaker 7: understand this and do not buy this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Read this article. It's a shocker.

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Speaker 7: And then I encourage people to go share this article

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Speaker 7: with your kids, your friends, you know, so that folks

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Speaker 7: realize the potential inadvertent danger they're exposing their children to

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Speaker 7: through these things.

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Speaker 2: Just go to LinkedIn dot com and search for Dave Hatter.

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Speaker 2: That's where he'll post this article. Six forty teven, fifty

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Speaker 2: five KRCD talk station and finally Webster's word of the Year,

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Speaker 2: What's slop?

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Speaker 1: Not what you want?

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Speaker 2: Station six if you want fifty five KRCD talk station.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Tech Briddy, Dave Hat or interest it dot

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Speaker 2: Com Day. Real quick, Eric reminded me yesterday was your birthday,

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Speaker 2: so happy belated birthday from specifically Eric, who have FB

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Speaker 2: Facebook messaged me instantly and from me the listening audience,

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Speaker 2: I hope you had a really nice one, And of

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Speaker 2: course from behalf of all of us, all of us,

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Speaker 2: show me all my listening audience, thank you for what

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Speaker 2: you do here on the Morning show, and a very

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Speaker 2: merry Christmas to you and your family. So I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to get that out. The other thing I want

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Speaker 2: you to do for me. I saw that there's a

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Speaker 2: lawsuit that was filed against the state of Indiana, or

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Speaker 2: rather against porn sites, most notably porn Hub. I've got

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Speaker 2: billions of people log into that site. Anyway, they outright

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Speaker 2: baned it as an accessible site in the state of

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Speaker 2: Indiana under the new legislation seeking to keep children protected

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Speaker 2: from pornography, a notable goal and a laudable goal. But

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Speaker 2: now because of the use of a VPN, people are

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Speaker 2: getting around it just by acting like they're in some

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Speaker 2: other states. So the age verification law doesn't come in

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Speaker 2: Indiana says you can't do that. You must use porn hub,

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Speaker 2: and it's soon to be every other provider of services

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Speaker 2: must flag VPNs and prevent VPNs from accessing porn in

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Speaker 2: the state of Indiana. That doesn't sound like a positive

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Speaker 2: direction for privacy purposes day, But maybe you can look

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Speaker 2: into that and maybe commented on it. When we get

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Speaker 2: back to the Tech Friday segment after the first of

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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 7: Look, we can look into that, but yeah, in general,

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Speaker 7: I understand what they're trying to do, but the idea

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Speaker 7: that you would ban the use of VPNs is not

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Speaker 7: a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, that was my conclusion immediately Slop Merriam Webster's new

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Speaker 2: word of the Year Dave obviously tech related.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I thought this was kind of funny. So

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Speaker 7: there's been this talk of slop, the idea that AI

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Speaker 7: feeds off of the AI and that over time you

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Speaker 7: go towards something known in the business think of it

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Speaker 7: as entropy model collapse. You know, if essentially all the

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Speaker 7: human content has already been sucked up by these things,

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Speaker 7: and now people are using these tools to generate new content,

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Speaker 7: and this tool sucks down the content from that tool

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Speaker 7: generates some new content, and you get into this sort

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Speaker 7: of endless loop of now everything is just aig generated

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Speaker 7: you just sort of slowly go down, and you know,

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Speaker 7: there have been lots of people talking about this for

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Speaker 7: some time. I'm one of the concerns about these generative

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Speaker 7: AI models. Where we started out, you know, the chat

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Speaker 7: GPTs of the world large language model based things is

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Speaker 7: that over time, as they feed off of themselves, the

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Speaker 7: quality continues to go down because you have hallucinations, you

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Speaker 7: have bias, all these things we've talked about over the year.

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Speaker 7: So and there have been a lot of people pointing

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Speaker 7: out the sheer volume of videos and memes and so forth,

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Speaker 7: and how the Internet is now full of this stuff, right,

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Speaker 7: and it's just sort of taken over social media, and

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Speaker 7: again you get this thing feeding that thing. Here's something

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Speaker 7: that's not correct. Over time, you just go down. And

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Speaker 7: that's where this idea of slop come is in. So

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Speaker 7: someone I'm not sure who coined the term, someone coined

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Speaker 7: the term AI slop, and it's kind of stuck. And

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Speaker 7: I think it's pretty relevant where we're at with all

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Speaker 7: of this stuff. And that's the word of the year.

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Speaker 7: So I think in light of the sheer volume of

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Speaker 7: Internet produced garbage, these cat memes and all this stuff

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Speaker 7: you just see everywhere now, it's like, yeah, this is

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Speaker 7: a I think a pretty good indication of where we

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Speaker 7: are with this stuff at this point. So when you

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Speaker 7: hear someone say slop and obviously AI slop, sometimes people

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Speaker 7: will just throw out the term slop.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're talking about.

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Speaker 7: And it'll be interesting because you know, there's been so

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Speaker 7: much hype around this stuff, and I think a lot

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Speaker 7: of the hype has started to wear off and people

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Speaker 7: are starting to see that while these tools can provide

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Speaker 7: a lot of value. Again, I'm not saying they can.

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Speaker 7: I think it's been way over hyped. I think the

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Speaker 7: capabilities are way over hyped. And there are concerns by

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Speaker 7: people way smarter than me that work in this field

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Speaker 7: about things like this idea of model collapse and slop

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Speaker 7: and the hallucinations, and you know, are these tools going

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Speaker 7: to suddenly replace all of us?

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Speaker 1: I think the answer is no.

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Speaker 7: Now, as I've said many times, Brian, I don't know

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Speaker 7: what's in some lab somewhere. I only know what I see.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we use this stuff, but we understand how

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Speaker 7: to use it within the guardrails. Yeah, we know what

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Speaker 7: it does and what it can't do, and where it

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Speaker 7: makes sense and where it doesn't make sense. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think this is an appropriate term. And it just

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Speaker 7: kind of makes me laugh a little because I've heard

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Speaker 7: people in the industry say it. But it's interesting that

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Speaker 7: it's now sort of caught on and bubbled up to

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Speaker 7: the surface.

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Speaker 2: Well, good more people understand the concept, more people appreciate

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Speaker 2: the limitations of AI just based upon that term in

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Speaker 2: and of itself, and you thank you so much. Dave

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Speaker 2: had to looking forward to count of your twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six and return of this segment, assuming you're going to

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Speaker 2: continue doing it with us. I consider it to be

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Speaker 2: so valuable what you do here on the fifty five

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Speaker 2: CASA Mornings and of course throughout your career helping companies

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Speaker 2: avoid these types of problems interest it dot com. Thanks again, Dave,

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Speaker 2: and you up you up for next year?

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, you know, Brian.

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Speaker 7: I always appreciate the opportunity you guys give me to

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Speaker 7: hopefully do some good out there and enjoy check with

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Speaker 7: you and Joe and appreciate you and Joe and all

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Speaker 7: your listeners. Mery Christmas, Happy New Year, and now look

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Speaker 7: forward to talking to you in January.

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Speaker 2: That's welcome news, my friend. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, sir. We'll get back. It's seven six

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Speaker 2: here at fifty five krs DE talk station. A very

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Speaker 2: happy Friday. He headed to the Christmas week next week,

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Speaker 2: and welcome back to the fifty five CASSEE Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Love you coming on the program, and I know my

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Speaker 2: listeners love hearing from your Congressman Warren Davidson. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: my friend. Always a pleasure, and Merry Christmas to you

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Speaker 2: and your family, sir.

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Speaker 5: Merry Christmas, Brian, It's always an honor, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Thank you, and let's dive on into it real quick.

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Speaker 2: Here I saw the Senate. I don't know if they

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Speaker 2: actually passed it, but they were pushing towards a mini

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Speaker 2: bus deal to fund the most of the government, about

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Speaker 2: eighty and nine eighty percent of the government combining in

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Speaker 2: this minibus like an omnibus, but not completely on steroids

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Speaker 2: like most of them. Department's offense, Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, Commerce, Justice, Interior, Transportation,

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Speaker 2: and Housing and urban Development. So rather than multiple appropriation

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Speaker 2: bills approved individually, this lumps them all into one, so

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Speaker 2: there only remains a couple of departments that they have

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Speaker 2: to address. Sounds like it will keep the government running.

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Speaker 2: In other words, there's no threat of government shut down

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Speaker 2: if this goes through, although there will be a couple

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Speaker 2: of bills left. Is that something that sounds appealing to you?

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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with what's going on in the Senate?

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Speaker 2: And are you think you'd be on with this if

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Speaker 2: it gets handed over to the House for approval.

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Speaker 5: Well, they're bundling five bills together, and inherently that just

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Speaker 5: means that they're burying something that Democrats want in labor,

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Speaker 5: health and Human Services for example, to get things that

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Speaker 5: Republicans want in defense for example. So that's the transportation

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Speaker 5: and hud. You know, why do those things go together.

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Speaker 5: There's no made formula, it's just these are the deals

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Speaker 5: that are able to get cut often. And from what

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Speaker 5: I understand, they were close to a deal in the Senate,

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Speaker 5: and that's where it's a little vexing because they got

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Speaker 5: to have sixty votes and apparently the Democrats withhold their

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Speaker 5: support for the final package. So the Senate left town

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Speaker 5: without passing it, which is you know, the House hasn't

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Speaker 5: passed some of these things because you know, we don't

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Speaker 5: have the votes in the Senate. So they're really going

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Speaker 5: to be the driver for what the deal that can

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Speaker 5: get cut. Republicans would probably want something more aggressive than

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Speaker 5: could pass the Senate, but lately I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 5: we got Republicans the speaker kept us out of session

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Speaker 5: when the Democrats shut the government down last time to

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Speaker 5: prevent the surrender Caucus from running over and cutting deals

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Speaker 5: with Democrats. And nevertheless, here at the end of the session,

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Speaker 5: we had four Republicans try to run over and form

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Speaker 5: a new surrender caucus. And you know, I found no

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Speaker 5: Republicans that said let's save Obamacare, but apparently four of

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Speaker 5: them wanted to save Obamacare here at the end. Thankfully

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Speaker 5: it didn't work well.

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Speaker 2: Perfect pivot over to the healthcare debate that continues to

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Speaker 2: go on. The surrenderco because, of course, of those folks

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Speaker 2: who are willing to extend these unbelievably expensive subsidies masking

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Speaker 2: the actual cost of Obamacare, which is a lustrative of

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Speaker 2: the fact that, well, it's an epic failure. Congressman David

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Speaker 2: the I think you can probably agree on that one.

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Speaker 2: But where are we in so far as something to advance.

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Speaker 2: I know, House Republicans passed a bill the other day

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Speaker 2: which I know the CBO said, with lower Americans health

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Speaker 2: care costs by about eleven percent, but it didn't extend

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Speaker 2: any subsidies. So I expect that the Democrats are all

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Speaker 2: against that, which leads us kind of where Congressman.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's a good summary. Wednesday, the House

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Speaker 5: passed the healthcare bill. I mean we've I looked it up.

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Speaker 5: I mean we've had over two hundred hearings since twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 5: But the jurisdiction split up amongst multiple committees, so there's

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Speaker 5: not like a single unified Republican plan. There are dozens

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Speaker 5: of plans. So where the speaker cobbled together over the

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Speaker 5: last couple of weeks was a collection of things that

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Speaker 5: have overwhelming support by Republicans and Democrats normally would support

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Speaker 5: some of these things, but you know, they're trying to

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Speaker 5: steer towards single payer, and they're focused all on the

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Speaker 5: more free stuff for more people approach of it doesn't

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Speaker 5: lower the cost. It's n shifts who's paying, and in

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Speaker 5: fact it raises it. It causes more inflation. And look,

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Speaker 5: you think about Obamacare, this isn't even subsidies. The covid

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Speaker 5: era subsidies aren't even subsidies for traditional Obamacare. They're like

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Speaker 5: bonus subsidies generally aimed at the higher end of the

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Speaker 5: income bracket.

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Speaker 1: You know, so.

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Speaker 5: It isn't working. So if you look at it, well,

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Speaker 5: since twenty twenty one, these things have been getting paid

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Speaker 5: out as your insurance been massively better than ever before,

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Speaker 5: it hasn't. You've been getting double digit increases, you still

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Speaker 5: got the same big out.

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Speaker 2: Of pocket maxes.

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Speaker 5: You still have sometimes claim denied or sometimes oh what

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Speaker 5: are you talking about it? Out of network. I was

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Speaker 5: in the same building all day, and you get all

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Speaker 5: those same things that people are frustrated about. And Democrats

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Speaker 5: are counting on this sleight of hand to try to

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Speaker 5: blame Republicans for everything that you don't like about your

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Speaker 5: health care, and the reality is the Republican plan was, well,

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Speaker 5: let's talk about the broader market, not just the government

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Speaker 5: subsidy side of it, and deal with some things that

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Speaker 5: will make health care more affordable. It's not everything we

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Speaker 5: need to do on healthcare. I'm sure we're going to

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Speaker 5: keep talking about it all year, but it's a start,

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Speaker 5: and frankly, it puts Republicans ahead of where we were

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Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen when we couldn't get consensus.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess one thing that really just irks me

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Speaker 2: to know and want to pull my hair out every

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Speaker 2: time I read it. When the supplements or the subsidies

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Speaker 2: are talked about and rejected by Republicans, they Democrats scream,

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Speaker 2: you're not doing anything to lower the cost of health care. Well,

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Speaker 2: masking it is. All those subsidies do, is you point

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Speaker 2: it out, it increases the cost of health care. There's

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Speaker 2: no incentive to reduce the cost. We need a more

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Speaker 2: market flexible approach to this, something that'll create competition. But

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Speaker 2: aside from that as a concept, why not don't we

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Speaker 2: all agree that PBMs are no longer a necessary expenditure,

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Speaker 2: that they are driving the cost of pharmaceuticals up, that

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Speaker 2: they benefit no one but the hospitals and the PBM managers.

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Speaker 2: Why why don't we just all collectively agree we're going

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Speaker 2: to do one thing where you we're gonna all join

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Speaker 2: and unite to reject the use of pharmacy benefit managers

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Speaker 2: and then we can all move forward with other elements

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Speaker 2: of healthcare and deal with those later.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't get that across the finish line, which

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Speaker 5: is maddening it is. And so last year this time

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Speaker 5: this time last year, we had a bill there was

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Speaker 5: a major reform of the pharmacy benefit management program. It

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Speaker 5: got rid of stupid things like gag orders, where the

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Speaker 5: pharmacists isn't supposed to tell you, hey, if you just

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Speaker 5: do it this way, it costs you like ten bucks

1345
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 5: instead of you know, one hundred bucks, or you know,

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Speaker 5: all those kinds of things that are just you know

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01:15:52,560 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 5: offensive that they're even in practice. So we did on

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Speaker 5: the bill Wednesday deal with pricing for pharmaceuticals, but we

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Speaker 5: didn't do the broader pharmacy benefit management plan. And look,

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Speaker 5: Buddy Carter is an actual pharmacist from Georgia. He's a

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Speaker 5: member of the House right now, and he's tried to

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Speaker 5: do this forever. He's like, this is how these PBMs

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Speaker 5: are wrecking the pharmacy practice, and in particular, they're wrecking

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01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 5: independent pharmacists. So you can deal with the major mail

1355
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Speaker 5: order outlets in a different way, but they're really trying

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Speaker 5: to consolidate the industry, which you know, let's the pharmacy

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Speaker 5: benefit managers control a handful of big guys versus having

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Speaker 5: to deal with a ton of independent pharmacists around the country.

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Speaker 5: It's bad for everybody, and I think broadly people agree.

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Speaker 5: But that's the kind of frustrating thing that goes on

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Speaker 5: in DC. You're like, well, we're trying to make the

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Speaker 5: speaker put it on the floor, but he's like, well,

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Speaker 5: we got these other members ten or fifteen that won't

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Speaker 5: vote for it, so it's going to fail.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, in the minute we got here in

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Speaker 2: the segment, Congressman Davidson. Since everyone sees these well, the

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Speaker 2: vast majority except for a handful, I just want to

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Speaker 2: know what the handful of folks who want to protect

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Speaker 2: the PBMs have. What is their stake in the game.

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Speaker 2: What is their argument that they're valuable and not just

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Speaker 2: a cost enhancing thing.

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Speaker 5: Well, this is exactly what my point is, Brian. You

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01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 5: got to put it on the floor. So then the

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Speaker 5: people know, Hey, here's the people that agree with the

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01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 5: personal benefit managers. Ask them why they think this is

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01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 5: a good idea. It's indefensible generally. And then that's the

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01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 5: biggest frustration overall. There's so much work that goes into

1378
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 5: making sure we don't vote, and it's like, no, you

1379
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 5: did all this work to get elected. You get a

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01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 5: voting card vote, and look, I get it. Sometimes you

1381
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 5: get these tough votes where it's like, look, you don't

1382
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 5: get to write an essay.

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01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: It's yes or no.

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Speaker 6: So so it's frustrating.

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01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 5: Sometimes you're like, well there's a little nuance here. Well

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Speaker 5: then explain it and in price. When you're defending something

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 5: like pharmacy benefit managers, people are going to pay attention

1388
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 5: because they're like, uh yeah, please explain.

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Speaker 2: How about this as a concept standalone bill? Get rid

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Speaker 2: of pharmacy benefit managers is the bottom line of what

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01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 2: the bill says. Doesn't include any other provisions or anything

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01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: else related to any other element of aspect of healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Queue the bill up and then discharge position and force

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Speaker 2: everybody to come out and say out loud why they're for,

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Speaker 2: or just go ahead and get rid of them.

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Speaker 5: Possible, Well, the discharge position might be a lane to try.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that effort's been tried. But that's the

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01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: single subject builds. This is the thing everyone talks about

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Speaker 5: it and just like the appropriations, you can't get a

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Speaker 5: single subject bill on appropriations because they got to do

1401
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 5: the cobbling of the deal making together. It's the way

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01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 5: this sausage is made right and that you know, you

1403
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 5: could respect it if it was working right.

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01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 2: But it isn't.

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Speaker 5: And I think a lot of people want the transparency.

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01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 5: So maybe the discharge on the pharmacy that benefit managers

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Speaker 5: is the path that seems to be the only way

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Speaker 5: to get certain things to the floor.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can go feel free to advent. It's that idea,

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Speaker 2: and you can take credit for it too. Congressman Davidson's respect.

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Speaker 2: There you go. I'd love to talk with that guy.

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01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: I wonder what's going through his head. Answered a lot

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01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: of questions for me. Anyway, Congressman Warre Davidson, we're talking

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Speaker 2: Epstein files. Today's the day. I guess plus inflation came

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Speaker 2: in lower than expected by a little bit, which is

1416
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: obviously a positive thing. Let's continue in a moment after

1417
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: I mentioned calling electric power up your holiday sale that's

1418
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: going on to the end of the month.

1419
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: And I.

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Speaker 2: Seven one to five KARSI Talk Station Friday with Congressman

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Speaker 2: Warren Davidson. Moving over. I guess today's the day. According

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01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 2: to the Epstein Act you had, the files have to

1423
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 2: be released in searchable form. A lot of people saying

1424
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: that's not going to happen for a variety of reasons.

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01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: Where are we on that one, Congressman Davidson, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's the law. It passed, I mean overwhelmingly,

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01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 5: and now the administration's got to comply with it. So

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 5: you know, we'll see see what they publish. You know,

1429
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 5: we'll see whether it's a clean thing. But yeah, here's

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01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 5: my frustration. This is why I thought, like, well, the

1431
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 5: discharge petition is interesting, but the real issue is when

1432
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 5: is somebody going to jail and they're not going to

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01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 5: jail until Pam Bondi brings some charges or US attorneys

1434
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 5: around the country bring charges, and it's like, where's the investigations.

1435
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 5: We know these girls didn't traffic themselves because Jelane Maxwell's

1436
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 5: in jail for trafficking. She trafficked them to somebody, So

1437
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 5: where are the prosecutions? And I think that's where people

1438
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 5: are rightly livid. Yeah, you know, even some of President

1439
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 5: Trump's biggest fans, you know, and you know Trump didn't

1440
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 5: take it well. I mean he he kind of unloaded

1441
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 5: on Thomas Masky and Marjorie Taylor Green, I don't know,

1442
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 5: largely over their their pressure on Epstein and it's like, look,

1443
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 5: we love you, but what's going on here.

1444
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: I share the same concern and disbelief. I mean, he

1445
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: did campaign on releasing the Epstein files. Democrats wouldn't release

1446
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 2: them when Joe Biden was in office, and then they

1447
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: turned into the biggest supporters of releasing them as soon

1448
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Speaker 2: as Donald Trump selected and after saying he wants some released,

1449
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 2: he didn't does a one eighty, and then he says, no,

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Speaker 2: we don't need to release them. There's no there there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the most confusing element of the presidency

1452
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: thus far as far as I'm concerned, Congressom Massey, I

1453
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 2: just don't get it. It's never been adequately explained to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean I think that's part of where

1455
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 5: the disclosure will, okay, help us understand. I mean, so,

1456
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 5: you know, Dan Bongino's leaving. I don't know if this

1457
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 5: is the only reason, but you know he was very

1458
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 5: intent on this before he went to the FBI. He

1459
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 5: becomes the number two at the FBI. You think this

1460
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 5: is certainly one of the things that's going to change.

1461
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 5: And you know, this is the thing I'm just thinking about.

1462
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Speaker 5: You know, Frederick Douglass, you know, iconic Republican, former slave

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01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 5: earned his freedom, a lot of really good thinking in

1464
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 5: some of his writings. But one of the points is

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01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 5: Powerson seems nothing without a demand.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 5: You know, Massey led the discharged position, made the demand,

1468
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 5: and the concession has been made. We'll see whether it's

1469
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 5: made public today, But the real question is what are

1470
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 5: the layers behind this that are still holding it back? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: how are we going to get the FBI, for example,

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Speaker 5: to be held accountable for anything? So look, I'm hoping

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six in the new year is the year

1474
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Speaker 5: of accountability.

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Speaker 2: Well, that would be nice, I mean, most notably considering

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Speaker 2: all the details now that have come out about these

1477
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Speaker 2: the warrant that was issued on Donald Trump and the

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Speaker 2: storming of his residence in mar A Lago with guns

1479
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Speaker 2: blazing or guns out and sirens and FBI officers coordinated

1480
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Speaker 2: effort with CNN to be there on the scene. Apparently

1481
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Speaker 2: they didn't even have probable cause to issue the warrant

1482
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Speaker 2: in the first place.

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Speaker 5: Congressman, Yeah, you keep skinning these abuses of the FBI,

1484
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 5: And look, we have certain tools in place you want

1485
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 5: to be able to stop terrorists and bad guys, but

1486
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 5: everything that we use to design against enemies of our country,

1487
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 5: these guys were weaponizing against Donald Trump. And so again,

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01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 5: Pam BONDI, when is somebody going to jail? People are

1489
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 5: really livid about this, and I don't think it is

1490
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 5: resonating enough. But you would think of all people. Bean

1491
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 5: Dan Bongino totally gets it. You know, a lot of

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01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 5: this reason is podcast surged was this exact kind of

1493
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 5: issue where where's the accountability? And he gets in a

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01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 5: position to do it, and you're like, well, who do

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Speaker 5: we need to send to reform the FBI? And maybe

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01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 5: the answer is it can't be reformed. We're just gonna

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01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 5: you know, the government brought the FBI into the world,

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01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 5: the government should be able to take it out. The

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01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 5: result needs to be done. We need law enforcement, but

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Speaker 5: they're not working. They're not responding, they're not steering. And

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01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 5: it's the same kind of thing usaid. We tried to

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01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 5: steer it, they wouldn't steer.

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01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 6: We just got rid of it.

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Speaker 2: Congressman Warren Davidson, it is a pleasure to have you on.

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01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate your willingness to come up on the show,

1506
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 2: up in the morning show and talk to my listeners

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01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: and me on a regular basis. I'll look forward to

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: count of your twenty twenty six and continuing this and

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01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: on behalf again of my listeners. Joe Strecker myself to

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01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 2: you and your entire family, we wish you the merriest

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01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: of Christmas. Is Happy House safe travels if you're moving

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01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: about and look forward to hitting the ground running next year, Sir.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Likewise, goeed. Bless you and all your listeners.

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Speaker 2: Brian, Merry Christmas, Thank you, Congressman Davidson. Seven twenty six,

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Speaker 2: Alex Cheronta Filo ahead of that app seven thirty one,

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Speaker 2: fifty five KRSD talk station, Happy Friday, Andre Young brother

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01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: Dre after the top of their news on the eight

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01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,879
Speaker 2: point one million dollars settlement, the civil rights violation settlement,

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01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 2: Iris Roley Sweetheart Deal, and AFTABS car trouble along the

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01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: topics with Andre right now returning to the fifty five

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Speaker 2: Cassee Morning Show. Head of the Ohio Republican Party, Alex

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01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 2: Cheronta Filo, always great having on the program. Alex, welcome

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01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: back in advance. Happy, happy Christmas, Merry Christmas to you

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01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 2: and your family.

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01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 6: Well, Brian, thank you, and Merry Christmas and happy Holidays

1527
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 6: and everything to you and your listeners. And always good

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01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 6: to be with you two.

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01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: Buddy. All right, I'm gonna get a we're gonna try

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01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: to do a bit of a year in review here

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01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: and then we'll look forward to twenty twenty six and

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01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 2: insofar as the latter topic and even the former topic

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01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: is concerned. I just wanted to get your reaction to

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01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: Governor de wine statements relative to V. Vike Ramaswami, who

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: I understand enjoys the Republican Party endorsement already. He won't

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 2: endorse him yet, and he really tried to salvage this

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01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 2: certain degree Doctor Amy Acton Amy Lockdown acting Democrat, he

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01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: appointed to be the medical director during COVID lockdown times.

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01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: She's the one that came up with the concepts like

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01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: let's not drink after ten pm, but you don't have

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01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: to go home at a bar. It didn't make any

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01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: sense Lockdown Amy Acton, but he provided her cover, saying

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01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: the buck stops with him, which I agree, but I

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01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: kind of wondered why he was trying to provide her

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01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: some cover and what his problem is with endorsing VI

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01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: vike Ramaswami, who does have the Republican Party endorsement. Alex

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01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:43,440
Speaker 2: Wait covered.

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01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 6: A lot of ground and it's all fair. So Brian,

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01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 6: I want to say this to you. First of all,

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01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 6: the vike Ramaswami did receive our full endorsement. You know,

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01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 6: I go way back with a bake. I've known him

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01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 6: a long time. He's an incredible candidate for the Republican Party,

1553
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 6: very strong. Look, no matter what the Governor says, Amy

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01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 6: Actin is going to have to answer to Ohioan's for

1555
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 6: her conduct in the same way that Anthony Fauci answered

1556
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 6: for his conduct. It wasn't Joe Biden or Donald Trump

1557
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:13,839
Speaker 6: who made decisions and advised you know, non scientist, non doctors.

1558
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 6: So Amy Acting is going to have to answer for

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01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,799
Speaker 6: all of those things. You know, you can, the governor

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01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 6: can can continue to do what he's going to do.

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01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 6: But let me tell you it's not going to deter

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01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 6: us one bit from pointing out Amy Acting's absolute failures

1563
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 6: in her job, and also to talk a lot about

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01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 6: the Viake Ramaswami in the incredible gifts and talents that

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01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 6: he brings in this job. So yeah, look, I I

1566
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 6: do Ultimately Brian is the party's leader here in Ohio.

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01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 6: I expect the Governor will endorse the Republican nominee, and

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01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 6: that's going to be the Viake ramis Swami. I think

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01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 6: that's going to happen. I think in the meantime, you know,

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01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 6: the governor is going to stand up for, you know,

1571
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 6: for what he did and say what he did was

1572
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 6: what he did, and in one small way you respect it.

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01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 6: At least you know he's taken them. He's saying, Look,

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01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 6: I was the decision maker and that's kind of what

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01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 6: leaders do. But that is not to absolve Amy Act

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01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 6: in one bit for her lockdowns, for masking our children,

1577
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 6: for shutting down businesses, and for all the other terrible

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01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 6: and I mean awful decisions that she put upon Ohio

1579
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 6: and during the COVID disaster. So you know, there's not

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01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 6: going to be any absolution of her, you know, because

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01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 6: of what other politicians might say.

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01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's kind of hide behind Well, the information was unfolding.

1583
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: We didn't have it all in front of us. We

1584
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: were erring on the side of caution. Well, you didn't

1585
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: have to shut the kids out of school, one of

1586
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: the first states to do. So look what Florida did.

1587
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: They didn't lock down, they didn't have any problems, and

1588
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 2: there were multiple directions to go. And of course there

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01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: could have been a middle ground somewhere in there, I suppose,

1590
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: but I mean she would full on shut down and

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01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 2: that ruined so many lives. So yes, I agree, we

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01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 2: will hold her fully accountable as we as we head

1593
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 2: on into November. Also notable and again which makes me

1594
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: really puzzled. Why Dwine won't just go ahead and give

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01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: his endorsement, which you expect and I do too. Ultimately,

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01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: there's no primary challenger. I mean, what's the weight all about?

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01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I've asked him, and you know,

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01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 6: I think he's just going running through his trap. So

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01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 6: what he has said to me is what you have

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01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 6: said publicly, and I wouldn't disclose it any he said

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01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 6: to me privately anyway, as you well know, Brian. But

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01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 6: I will tell you that he has said already publicly

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01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 6: that he intends to endorse. I think Camda Vak are

1604
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 6: just having a little bit of a warming up period. Look,

1605
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 6: this is all going to come together, and Ohioan's are

1606
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 6: going to have a binary choice. I mean we're still nine,

1607
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 6: you know, ten months away from the election. So the

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01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 6: answer is going to really be the Vake Ramaswami will

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01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 6: be the next governor of this great state. He is

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01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 6: going to have every advantage that the candidate needs. This

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01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:39,879
Speaker 6: is still still very much a red state. The generic

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01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 6: polling which you know we ask people and polls, Brian,

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 6: or you're a Republican or a Democrat. It's still about

1614
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 6: seven percentage points in the state. Donald Trump won this

1615
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 6: state by eleven percentage points, so you know, we're we're

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01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 6: going to be in very good shape. And what we did, frankly,

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01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 6: what I did here at the Ohio Republican Party is

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01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 6: we endorse the Vake. We endorse them early. We have

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01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 6: recognized the general rational talent and one of the most

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01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 6: thoughtful conservative leaders in America, and we're lucky to have

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01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 6: him and Brian. I mean, I'm on the ground with

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01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 6: a vake all around Ohio, and I really I may

1623
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 6: perhaps I'm put to hyperbole. Let me just say this

1624
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 6: to you about that. The level of support, the excitement

1625
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 6: that I've seen on the ground for vivike Ramaswami is

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01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 6: unlike anything I've ever seen for any politician other than

1627
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 6: Donald Trump in Ohio and vivig showed up at Miami

1628
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,560
Speaker 6: University on a cold winter's night two weeks ago, and

1629
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 6: their students lined up two blocks in the middle of

1630
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 6: campus to hear from vivike Ramaswami. My man, that's not

1631
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 6: happening for Amy Acton, That's not happening for even my

1632
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 6: good friends on the Republican side, on the establishment side

1633
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 6: who might show up. So it's an incredible thing. We

1634
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 6: have a vake running and no political endorsement or anything

1635
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 6: like that is going to Ultimately what gets it done

1636
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 6: for him, what gets it done is his skills, his

1637
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 6: acumen is a candidate and as a person, as a leader,

1638
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 6: as a completely self made Cincinnati kid.

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01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 6: So it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun campaign, Brian.

1641
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: It already is, yes, and he is such an inspirational speaker,

1642
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: sort of Reagan asking his ability to charge a crowd

1643
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 2: up and get them excited and positive thinking, it's wonderful

1644
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: to behold. We'll bring Alex Chanance Tofilo back after these

1645
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 2: brief worst beginning with plump type plumbing which others for

1646
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 2: comedy Talk station seven fifty five KRC detalk station, Happy Friday,

1647
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas with a higher Republican Party Chairman Alex Chanontafilo.

1648
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 2: Before we look forward, and I know the all important

1649
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 2: midterm elections where the party that is not in presidential

1650
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 2: power usually ends up scoring some extra seats. We'll get

1651
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: your analysis of that in the next as we look forward,

1652
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: but looking back on twenty twenty five, anything you're particularly

1653
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 2: proud of that we got accomplished here in the state

1654
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 2: of Ohio. It seems to me, in spite that we

1655
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: are very red and we have an overwhelming well, the

1656
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 2: Republican Party has an overwhelming majority in the state House.

1657
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 2: They it's like hurting cats a lot of times. We

1658
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: expect a lot more because we all think that the

1659
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 2: Republicans will play nicely together in the name of benefiting

1660
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 2: all Ohiolands. And yet it doesn'tlways seem to work out

1661
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 2: that way. But what's your take on twenty twenty five

1662
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 2: before we get to this upcoming year?

1663
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: Alex, Well, Look, I.

1664
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 6: Mean, you know, some of this is inside baseball. But

1665
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 6: for instance, my organization we contributed participated in mail for

1666
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty six races. We won more than

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01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty of those. So look, I mean

1668
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 6: in the suburban communities and the rural communities of Ohio,

1669
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 6: we do very well. Look if you live here in Cincinnati,

1670
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 6: not so good. And I look, I still spend about

1671
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 6: half my time here, live on the West Side and

1672
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 6: love my Hamilton County community. But look, I mean when

1673
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 6: you get outside of the Beltway, of the three big

1674
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 6: seas Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati. You know, the Republican Party

1675
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 6: does very well. But listen, Brian, you said it, the

1676
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 6: pendulum swings back. I've been at this long enough to

1677
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 6: know that the party out of power in fact does

1678
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 6: suffer losses in the midterms. So we know, you know,

1679
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 6: what the potential is here is that we we get

1680
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 6: a bit of a correction back to the center, God forbid,

1681
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 6: back to the left. So you know, we're fighting every

1682
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,520
Speaker 6: single day to keep that from happening. My further analysis

1683
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty five is that Republicans cannot stay home.

1684
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 6: One of the things that's just kind of a natural

1685
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 6: phenomenon in politics is that when the things that motivated

1686
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 6: you to go out have been resolved, sometimes you know,

1687
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 6: you tend to just say, well, okay, things are better.

1688
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 6: For instance, the one issue that we have repeatedly seen

1689
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 6: that motivated voters in twenty twenty four was the problem

1690
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 6: at the southern border. Well, that's the problem has been solved.

1691
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 6: So a lot of Republicans, you know, not the ones

1692
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 6: day to day like you and me that are watching,

1693
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 6: are like, okay, well, you know, we're not as energized

1694
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 6: anymore because of the problem at the southern border, but

1695
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 6: a lot of other problems, and we need to stay

1696
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 6: fully engaged. Got to make sure they don't impeach President Trump.

1697
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 6: So you know, twenty twenty five was a challenge in

1698
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 6: the sense that Republicans did not, you know, get out

1699
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 6: and vote in the numbers where we need them to vote.

1700
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 6: If Republicans vote Brian in twenty twenty six and the

1701
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 6: same way that they did in twenty twenty four in Ohio,

1702
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 6: will win everything again. You know, we won everything in

1703
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, really had blowout losses. Really in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty four with Bernie Marino, we won. We ousted two

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Speaker 6: Democrats on the Supreme Court. You know, we won super

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01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 6: majorities in the House and Senate. So look, from a

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01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,560
Speaker 6: political perspective, twenty twenty five left me a little disappointed

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01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 6: because our people need to get out and vote. And

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01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 6: that's the simple message for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you know, since we move aside from the

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01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 2: whole healthcare debacle, which I think just illustrates the failure

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Speaker 2: of Obamacare generally speaking, but that is obviously one of

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01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 2: the Democrats' favorite talking points and we go into November,

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01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 2: the subsidies are gone, the supplet you know, the enhanced

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01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 2: premiums of there. Well, you know, that's just revealing the

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01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 2: reality of the failure of Obamacare. But that's an issue.

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01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 2: But the other issue that very difficult for Donald Trump

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01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,799
Speaker 2: or any president to get on top of his inflation,

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01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 2: and inflation ticked up less this past month than they

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01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 2: were anticipating, but going up two point eight percent as

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01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 2: opposed to three point three percent. That's still going up

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01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 2: and is still beyond the desired rate of inflation. What

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01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 2: can you know? Inflation is so complicated. You know, the

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01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,560
Speaker 2: price of eggs went up in large part because of

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01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 2: the bird flu. Who's that wasn't a political decision, that

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01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: was just the bird flu. The beef herds are way

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01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 2: down to night below nineteen fifties levels, the lowest they've

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01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 2: been since nineteen fifty. Our populations obviously gone up. You

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01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 2: can't just magically create cows to make the price of

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01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: beef go down, so that's kind of out of his hands.

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01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: So people want to point to these tariffs as being

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01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 2: an inflationary driver, but so far it hasn't been the

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01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 2: disaster that many of the gloom and dumers had predicted.

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01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 2: So what are we going to do about inflation if

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01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 2: that's everybody on everybody's hearts and minds as a dominant issue, Alex,

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01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: I think I think a couple.

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Speaker 6: Of things are going to happen. First of all, and

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01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,560
Speaker 6: again I'm not this is no spin for me. I

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01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 6: feel like my costs are down, maybe because Brian, I

1740
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 6: spend so much time driving around the Great State of Ohio. Yay,

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01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 6: you know, my two dollars and thirty four cents I

1742
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 6: know gallons is a significant safeties. I went from you know,

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01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 6: close to seventy dollars to fill my tank now to

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01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 6: sometimes as low as you know, under fifty dollars to

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01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 6: fill my tank. So I certainly have seen it. I

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01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 6: see at the end of the month on the credit

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01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 6: card statement that I, you know, peruse pretty carefully just

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01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 6: to kind of track our expenses. And you know it's

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01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,719
Speaker 6: so I don't know, I personally have seen this change

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01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 6: on gas prices. Others perhaps have not. The polling kills

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01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 6: us we have not. You said it that inflation is

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01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 6: a complex problem. But what I think we're going to see,

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01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 6: what I'm confident we're going to see actually twenty twenty

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01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 6: six is you're going to see more take home paid

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01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 6: because of tax cuts. You are going to see the

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01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 6: tax cuts that we're already in place continue to kind

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01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 6: of drive higher incomes for Americans. You're going to see

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01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 6: a bigger tax return if you're a person who receives

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01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 6: a tax return. And I think you're going to see

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Speaker 6: this cost of energy Brian, that we just talked about,

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01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 6: that lower cost of energy should begin to continue to

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01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 6: bring down inflation. I mean, inflation is at the lowest

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01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 6: point that it's been at since COVID. The policies of

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01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 6: President Trump are working. But again, as the President said,

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01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 6: you know, Rome wasn't built overnight. Joe Biden did, in

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01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 6: fact and us a crisis on the inflation and on

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01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 6: the economy. The laws that he passed when he entered office.

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01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 6: That's blooded our economy with a lot of dollars and

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01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 6: a lot of sort of free printed government money created

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01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 6: the ininflationary crisis. And it's just going to take a

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01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 6: while to make it, you know, to fix it. It's

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01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 6: not going to be fixed overnight. The American people must

1773
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 6: understand that this is a problem that is complex and

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01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 6: it's going to take some time to fix. But look,

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01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 6: I think people are going to see relief and already

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01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 6: seeing relief, but are going to see even more relief

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01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 6: first quarter, if not completely in the first quarter, first

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Speaker 6: half of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Well, it'll be nice to get a relief from our

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01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,600
Speaker 2: Duke energy bill because of course that keeps going up

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01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 2: and up. Thankfully, we're not living in the North East

1782
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 2: region of the country where they've gone so far Green

1783
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 2: New Deal that they're having rolling power outages and they

1784
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 2: have an insufficient supply of electricity to fund the ever

1785
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 2: growing demand on the grid, artificial intelligence being one of

1786
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 2: the drivers, at least under the Trump administration, we're backing

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01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 2: off that nonsense and we're going in a saner direction,

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01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 2: which will provide us relief, you know, cheaper energy prices.

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Speaker 2: That's just one of the drivers of people's inability to

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01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 2: even own a home because you got to deal with

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01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 2: that energy bill. That's an easily accomplishable goal, but it

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01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 2: does take time. Alex what no question about it.

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Speaker 6: And I'll tell you this is to talk for a

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01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 6: minute about the vake Ramaswami again, a Vek is just

1795
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 6: absolutely eloquent on what we need to do. In this state.

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01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 6: To make this an energy producing state may just free

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01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 6: up the market. The market will drive this, Brian. We're

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01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 6: both free market capitalists. If we allow the free market

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01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 6: to operate to produce energy in the state, and we'll

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Speaker 6: be able to not only keep up with the demands

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01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 6: which are growing, but also exceed those demands and make

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01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 6: us a net exporter of energy. But again, you have

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01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 6: to be a free market capitalist, remove regulation, walk away

1804
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 6: from this the Green New Deal scam that we all

1805
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 6: know as a scam. So you know, hopefully all those

1806
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 6: things come together to drive them as energy prices and

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01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 6: bring down the prices of everything else.

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Speaker 2: Alex Jeantfilo, you are always welcome on the fifty five

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Speaker 2: Carcy Morning Show. I appreciate you willingness to speak with

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01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 2: my listeners and me and on behalf of my listeners

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01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 2: if I may take the liberty to do so, and

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Speaker 2: Joe Strecker myself again, a really heartfelt Merry Christmas to

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01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 2: you and your family and if you're driving anywhere going anywhere,

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01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: safe travels to you and your family. Alex, thanks again

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01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 2: for coming on and we'll do it again next year

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Brian. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year to you.

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Speaker 2: Take care of seven forty nine fifty five car see

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01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 2: the talk station get in touch with Susan seven fifty

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Speaker 2: three on a Friday, Let's catch ourselves a crime stopper

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Speaker 2: Bad Guy of the Week Officer Tivity Green from the

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Speaker 2: wonderful Cincinni Police Department, Welcome back Merry Christmas, Davity Green

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Speaker 2: and who were looking for.

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Speaker 3: Today, Good morning, good morning, and thank you. Happy Holidays

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Speaker 3: for you as well. Appreciate that Cincinnati Police Sister three

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Speaker 3: investigators are looking for as A Riah Hoskins. Mister Hoskins

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01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:58,480
Speaker 3: is wanted for aggravated burglary, misdemeanor domestic violence, and misdemeanor

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Speaker 3: contentives Court and Sigator's Day. On October fifth of twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five, mister Hoskins forced entry into the victim's resident

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01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 3: without consent and physically assaulted the victim. As Ariah Hoskin

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01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 3: is a male Black He's twenty six years old. He's

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01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 3: sixty two and two hundred and twenty pounds. As Ariah

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Speaker 3: Hoskins has the history of carrying kistill weapons and failure

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01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 3: to appear, and was last known to live on Ebany

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01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 3: Lane and College Hills. If anyone has information on where

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01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 3: police can find as Ariah Hoskins, please call crime Stoppers

1837
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 3: at five point three three five two thirty forty or

1838
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 3: submit a tip online at crime dask stoppers.

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01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 2: Dot u s gotta get him off the streets. If

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01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 2: you're tip Ley's an arrest, you be elder before a

1841
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 2: cash reward. You always remain anonymous when calling crime stoppers

1842
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 2: or dropping a tip online, so do that. His visage

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01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 2: on my blog page fifty five care sea dot com

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01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 2: Tivity Green, thank you so much for being on the

1845
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 2: program will help catch you this guy. And again from

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01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 2: all my listening audience, my executive producer, myself, a very

1847
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 2: merry Christmas slash Happy Holidays to all members of the

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01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 2: Cincinna law enforce community. We really appreciate you and what

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01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 2: you do. Tiffany, go fine and think about kerc DE

1850
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 2: talk station half eight Friday. A man I thoroughly enjoy

1851
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 2: his post on Facebook. Outspoken he is. He doesn't speak

1852
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,560
Speaker 2: for anybody but himself, but excellent observations he makes and

1853
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 2: speaking truth to power quite often. Retired since a police

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01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 2: officer after a storied, I believe, thirty year career, he

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01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 2: is involved with a group called Curse Breakers three hundred strong.

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01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 2: It's a prison ministry advocate. He is a man of

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Speaker 2: faith and a man who's outspoken. Welcome back, Brother Dre

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01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 2: aka Andre Ewan. Good to have you on the morning show, sir.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, my man, Brian Man. I wanted to see

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01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 8: in person this morning, but ran into a couple of

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01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 8: win troubles from last night. But it's all good. How

1862
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 8: you doing.

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01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:47,560
Speaker 2: It's all good when we're talking to you, brother, and

1864
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 2: I really would like to be seen across of the

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01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 2: board here, but that's okay. We'll do that again next year.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping to have you on during counteryear twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. You're getting geared up for the holidays,

1869
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 2: going to celebrate Christmas. Andre Yes, sir.

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01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 8: Just all about peace and happiness.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 8: That's what we're practicing. Just making sure we have peace

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01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 8: that are surpass all understandings.

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Speaker 2: Amen to that. That's one of my favorite phrases, Peace

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Speaker 2: of God. It passes all human understanding. It's like a

1876
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: lot of things in politics. Maybe it's like the one

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Speaker 2: point eight million dollars settlement to the protesters during the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty Floord protest. Let's start with that one. Andre

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01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,879
Speaker 2: I understand from a lawyer's perspective, I understand the argument

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01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 2: that was made by the protesters. Listen, we have a

1881
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 2: First Amendment right to well, to protest, to speak politically,

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01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 2: to gather together in groups. And the riot situation was

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01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 2: there was a mixed bag of people who were just protesting,

1884
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 2: but also people who were breaking the law, and things

1885
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 2: got apparently out of control. I know, the mayor put

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01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 2: a curfew in place, and so all these people who

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01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 2: were gathered together and put over in the Hamilton County

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01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 2: lock up in that area. I can't remember what they

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01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 2: called that, but it was sort of an outdoor area

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01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 2: and held there for a while, filed this lawsuit claiming

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01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 2: that their civil rights got violated. So, yeah, we do

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01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 2: have the First Amendment, but there were a lot of

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01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,600
Speaker 2: crime in there. Apparently the police arrested them for the

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01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 2: curfew violation, not for specific crimes like blocking the street

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01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 2: or throwing off frozen water bottle or something like that

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01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,719
Speaker 2: that would result in a separate criminal or could result

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01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 2: in a separate criminal charge, but because they were curfew violations,

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01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 2: they claimed it was a civil rights violation, So ultimately

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01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:32,560
Speaker 2: the city wrote them a check for one point or

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Speaker 2: eight point one million dollars, which translates about twelve to

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01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:40,759
Speaker 2: thirteen thousand dollars per protester. As a former police officer

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01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 2: and someone who understands the situation, Andre Ewing, what's your

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01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 2: take on all this and what's your reaction to the settlement.

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Speaker 8: Well, of course you add over four hundred and seventy

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01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,759
Speaker 8: nine plaintiffs and here you have a payout, and people

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01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 8: do understand this. What I call this game is to

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01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 8: get into certain groups, get into a protesting type situation,

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01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 8: and to bait the police so they can actually sue.

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Speaker 8: And this is interesting because this happens in a lot

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01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 8: of different places around the country. I mean, but to

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Speaker 8: really look deeper into an eight point one million dollar settlement,

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Speaker 8: I mean, the way the arrests were, they were a

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01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 8: lot of individuals that was told was being reckless. So

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Speaker 8: it's interesting that it was strictly just being a curfew violation.

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Speaker 8: And that's where city leaders should have came together and

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Speaker 8: been more specific that am I just going to arrest

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Speaker 8: you and place you in the Hamilton count of Justice

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Speaker 8: Center on a specific pod because you violated a curfew,

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Speaker 8: and so is it you violated a curfew or you

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Speaker 8: were being reckless during this twenty twenty George Floyd Racial Justice.

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Speaker 8: So the clarity is extremely weak and it would be

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Speaker 8: interesting to see what was the actual plan, to be

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Speaker 8: honest with you, buy the police during this encounter to

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Speaker 8: just arrest individuals that were violating the curfew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I talk with former FOP President Dan Hills about this,

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Speaker 2: and he was very upset about this the settlement. But

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Speaker 2: I pointed to him and it's like, listen, from a

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Speaker 2: you know, lawyer perspective, From a constitutionalist perspective, you do

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Speaker 2: have the right to free assembly, and that trumps the

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Speaker 2: curfew argument I would make, because you know, adults are

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Speaker 2: allowed to go out at any given time and assemble.

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Speaker 2: But peaceable assembly is different than breaking an individual law. Like,

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Speaker 2: for example, in the middle of the street you're blocking traffic,

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Speaker 2: you can be cited for just that. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: what the time of day is, doesn't matter if you're

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Speaker 2: involved in protest or free speech. You're out in the

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Speaker 2: middle of the damn road. You can't be there. Here's

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Speaker 2: a ticket for that. If every one who was arrested

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Speaker 2: got an individual ticket. Under that type of scenario, then

1940
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Speaker 2: I don't think you'd see this lawsuit. They wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: the civil rights argument that they made. But the problem was,

1942
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Speaker 2: as it was explained to me, is that there were

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Speaker 2: so many people there it's virtually impossible for law enforcement

1944
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Speaker 2: to figure out who's standing on the sidewalk versus who's

1945
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the street, who's peaceably assembling, and

1946
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Speaker 2: who's not. And so you just gather them all up

1947
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Speaker 2: and tell them they all violated the curfew. That it

1948
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Speaker 2: was the impetus behind the lawsuit. So what's your having

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Speaker 2: been a police officer for so many years, I mean,

1950
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Speaker 2: that's it. I suppose that's a genuine problem parsing through

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Speaker 2: the lawbreakers and the ones that aren't.

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Speaker 8: And you know what, Brian, this is why I say

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Speaker 8: that I would love to see the body cam footage

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Speaker 8: from from point A to point B where they were arrested.

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Speaker 8: Let me see the details, what was actually presented that

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Speaker 8: was there or did you have officers just being reckless

1957
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Speaker 8: and going in and arresting just anybody. And that's where

1958
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Speaker 8: I'm sure that there were specific individuals that they probably

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Speaker 8: just gathered up that let's just say were in the

1960
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Speaker 8: crowd and we're trying to assemble peacefully, and we know

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Speaker 8: that is what generated the actual complaints. And once you

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Speaker 8: start getting one and two and three good complaints, you're

1963
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Speaker 8: going to get one hundred more following.

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Speaker 2: No question about it. So, had there been better management,

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Speaker 2: in other words, had the mayor gotten more actively involved

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Speaker 2: or sharel long gotten more actively involved as city manager

1967
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Speaker 2: or council getting more actively involved in directions to the

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Speaker 2: police department. I guess I'm just wondering where the breakdown

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Speaker 2: comes in, you know, explaining to them, though you just

1970
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Speaker 2: can't randomly pick up people for peaceably assembling, you got

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Speaker 2: to have a specific crime. Is that the kind of

1972
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Speaker 2: directive as a police officer when you were a police officer,

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Speaker 2: as you currently understand things, is that the kind of

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Speaker 2: thing you would expect council, the manager and or the

1975
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,560
Speaker 2: mayor to do in advance of the obviously knowing that

1976
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Speaker 2: these pro tests are going on. Hell, it had been

1977
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Speaker 2: going on for several days, So what do you expect

1978
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Speaker 2: them to do?

1979
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 8: See, this is what happens, Brian, when the left hand

1981
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 8: doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and the

1982
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 8: lack of communication and I'm gonna be honest with you

1983
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 8: no matter what situation I was in. I remember the riots,

1984
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 8: even with Tim Thomas and that particular situation, and at

1985
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 8: the time, I'm gonna be the supervisors were ridiculous. And

1986
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 8: this is where you really have to sit back and

1987
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Speaker 8: ask what are we doing at this particular time, how

1988
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 8: are we doing it? And make sure te's a cross

1989
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Speaker 8: and i's or dotted. So Somewhere in this particular situation,

1990
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Speaker 8: somebody clearly dropped the ball and they just grabbed a

1991
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 8: group of individuals and said, hey, we're gonna get these

1992
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Speaker 8: officers down here if they across the street the wrong way,

1993
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Speaker 8: arrest them. And this is where the breakdown is in communication.

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Speaker 1: And tea.

1995
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Speaker 2: Fair enough. Now your takeaway, did they collectively learn anything

1996
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 2: from this on a going forward basis? New practices or

1997
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 2: protocols put into place so we don't have to continue

1998
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 2: to write checks andre.

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Speaker 8: You know what, I guess the answer will be, we

2000
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 8: will soon see because we both know that there's going

2001
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Speaker 8: to be another type of protest, another type of rioting situation,

2002
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 8: and this is where leadership matters and making sure that

2003
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 8: the right people are in place that these things don't

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Speaker 8: continue to happen again.

2005
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Speaker 2: All right, well, I'll tell you what we almost out

2006
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Speaker 2: of time in this segment. I'm gonna break a little

2007
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:43,640
Speaker 2: bit early and let you know in advance on this

2008
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 2: particular topic. Law enforcement generally and writing checks want to

2009
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 2: hit you for what's the status on the Chief Washington situation?

2010
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 2: Do we learn anything from that Chiefdiji? Do we ever

2011
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,679
Speaker 2: get a reason for why they put her on administrative leave?

2012
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 2: That one seems to be swirling with question and doesn't

2013
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 2: it not look like we're going to be writing a

2014
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 2: couple of very large checks in connection with their cases

2015
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 2: against the city. Let's continue with Brother Dre Andre, you

2016
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Speaker 2: and curse Breakers three hundred strong. It's eight fourteen right now.

2017
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after these brief words.

2018
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Speaker 4: Fifty five krc You want to give the gift they'll

2019
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 4: actually use this holiday.

2020
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Speaker 2: Purec the talk station eight eighteen I fifty five KRCD

2021
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 2: talk station, Happy Friday. Brother Dre, you can call him

2022
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 2: Andre Ewing if you like. That's his Facebook page Andre

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01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 2: A N. Dre e Ewing e Wing. I follow him

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01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 2: all the time. He does great rants. He's on the

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01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 2: program for this hours talking about matters going on the

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01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati before we get into the questions I

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Speaker 2: have about former fire Chief Washington and the currently on

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Speaker 2: administrative leave dismissed police chief three So, Thigi, I see

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01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 2: that you are going to have a brand new web

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Speaker 2: page after the year. Is that the one you want

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01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 2: people to go to after the first of the year

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Speaker 2: or are you going to stick with Andrea Ewing. I'm

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01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 2: just letting my friends know so they can check out

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Speaker 2: what you got to say.

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Speaker 8: Andre, Yes, sir. After the first of the year, it'll

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Speaker 8: go back to Curse Breakers three hundred dash, brother Dre,

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Speaker 8: and all the content will be pushed over to that

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Speaker 8: particular page.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, And you want to remind my listeners what

2040
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,839
Speaker 2: you do with Cursebreakers three hundred. I know it's prison ministry,

2041
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,759
Speaker 2: but just put a little more information on the bones

2042
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 2: of that general description because I think it's a great

2043
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 2: thing you're doing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Curse Break is three hundred dis designed to assist

2045
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 8: and help individuals to come over what I call supernatural

2046
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 8: strongholds of things in their life, and so it burst

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01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,480
Speaker 8: in the prison system to just give people hope before

2048
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 8: they get released and to have them in a stronger mental, physical,

2049
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 8: and spiritual position. So it just expands outside of prison

2050
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 8: because everyone in life is going through some strongholds they

2051
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 8: need to break.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that true? And if you had to boil it

2053
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 2: down to the single most are the predominant reason any

2054
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: of the men that you work with in prison and

2055
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 2: try to turn their lives around why they got there

2056
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 2: or how they got there? What would you point to,

2057
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 2: Andre if I can even put you on the spot

2058
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: along those lines, Because you know a lot of reasons

2059
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 2: people get into crime, but I think maybe the deterioration

2060
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 2: of the family. I know drugs are quite often involved,

2061
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 2: but what drives a person to crime in them for

2062
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:22,839
Speaker 2: the most part that you've seen.

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01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 8: Is exactly what you said. That stronghold is extremely deep,

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01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:35,679
Speaker 8: that upbringing death surrounding they I talk to kids even

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01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 8: at are ten years old, and we've always asked how

2066
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 8: did you start getting hooked on drug? And they say, oh, wow,

2067
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,600
Speaker 8: I learned it from my dad or my mom or

2068
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 8: an adult. And so family is a key component on

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01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 8: individuals that are incarcerated and a.

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Speaker 2: Key component to success as well. Strong family is more

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01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 2: likely to lead to success regardless of income. I would argue, correct, Andre, correct, correct, You.

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01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 8: Be surprised I've seen strong families break through the utmost

2073
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 8: just strong holds just because they have that family support.

2074
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:14,759
Speaker 8: So it can work both ways.

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01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes in the absence of family, that's where

2076
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 2: faith can be a great substitute. There is still some

2077
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 2: hope and some reason to be a strong, positive, crime

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Speaker 2: free individual. All right, brother Dre, let's pivot over here.

2079
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,719
Speaker 2: We had the whole problem in the lawsuit that ensued

2080
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 2: as a result of Chief Washington, the fire chief getting dismissed.

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01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 2: Looks like they're going to be writing a pretty big check.

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01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,960
Speaker 2: I think all errors indicate that the city of Cincinnati's

2083
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 2: on the hook. Now we've got police Chief Threes of

2084
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 2: Thigi and after the summer violence, she was put on

2085
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,640
Speaker 2: I guess paid administrative leave and was left with a

2086
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 2: substitute chief. Have you heard a specific reason why they

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01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 2: took that action against police Chiefdiji? Because I haven't heard

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01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 2: a reason. It's almost as if they said, all right,

2089
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 2: you're off the job, and then they're going to go

2090
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 2: investigate on why they were moved her from the position.

2091
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 2: Is it like a ready fire aim or Am I

2092
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 2: missing some of the facts.

2093
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 8: No, you're not missing the facts. And this is the

2094
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 8: ridiculousness of the city manager and the leadership. It just

2095
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 8: appears that they have blank checks to write for everyone.

2096
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 8: And even though I've been outspoken on the leadership of

2097
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 8: Chief Thiji and the way things went, the way that

2098
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 8: the mayor and the city manager have conducted this process

2099
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 8: has just been sloppy across the board. Mike Washington, the

2100
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 8: fire former fire chief, should have never been fired in

2101
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 8: the first place. I mean, there's no reason, no evidence whatsoever,

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01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 8: So to have somebody abuse their authority and consistently abuse

2103
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 8: their authority, it's interesting how the city is okay with

2104
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 8: all these checks that are being written out that they're

2105
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 8: going to have to pay. And at some point it's

2106
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 8: people are gonna have to prove a point to say

2107
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 8: we support this type of nonsense by being silenced, or

2108
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 8: are we just gonna not support the city and move out.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I'm sure a lot of people making choices

2110
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Speaker 2: along both of those lines. But you know, the big

2111
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Speaker 2: component and all of this for me is usually and

2112
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 2: is in this particular case. Why so you can say

2113
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Speaker 2: they're abusing their authority, Yes they are, at least it

2114
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 2: seems to be so. But if they even if they

2115
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 2: came out loud and said we have removed Chief Fiji

2116
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 2: for this or these reasons. At least you could put

2117
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Speaker 2: look to the reasons they cited and say, well, that

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Speaker 2: is beyond your authority. There's no reason to dismiss her

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Speaker 2: for that. Or we could collectively say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty good reason. It sounds like you got

2121
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 2: something to hang your hat on when she ultimately sues

2122
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 2: you for wrongful termination or reputation violation or something like that.

2123
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Speaker 2: Instead we get nothing, and you're not gonna get nothing.

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Speaker 8: And that's why at the beginning, Let's say you you

2125
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Speaker 8: make these decisions. At the beginning, when the majority of

2126
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 8: pleasolice officers said, hey, look, we don't think Chiefdiji is

2127
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Speaker 8: the actual best choice, you decide to choose her anyway.

2128
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Speaker 8: And there are sources that say that Cheryl Long clearly

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Speaker 8: clearly stated that this is my pick and I cannot

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Speaker 8: get this wrong. Okay, So you fires or put somebody

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Speaker 8: on administrative lead that you selected. So you are part

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Speaker 8: of the problem. And so I've always been very very

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Speaker 8: clear I'm not letting any of them off the hook.

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Speaker 8: But it still starts with Sheryl Long and where is

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Speaker 8: her experience to start to just fire individuals who may

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Speaker 8: or may not deserve it and does not do the

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Speaker 8: proper investigation. And here we are again with this foolishness,

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Speaker 8: this nonsense, talking about this going into the new year,

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Speaker 8: making more and more payouts on ridiculous information and how

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Speaker 8: people leave this city. And plus it was a political

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Speaker 8: move during the time, very strategic to get rid of Fiji,

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Speaker 8: so at have to kind of separate hisself from that process.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a political motivation. It sounds like a

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Speaker 2: pretty strong argument you're making there, Andre Ewing. I'm just wondering.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about this in the next segment when

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Speaker 2: we continue with Brother Dre. Did Iris Rowley have anything

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Speaker 2: to do with that? And what's with this six hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty some one thousand dollars ever increasing sweetheart deals

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Speaker 2: she has with the city of Cincinnati And how much

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Speaker 2: controlled and power does she have. It's an unusual thing

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Speaker 2: we've got going on here in the city. Will continue

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Speaker 2: with Brother Dre. Take twenty five right now. If you

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Speaker 2: biy KRSD talk station, this is fifty five KARC and

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio fifty five kr CD talk station. A very happy

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Speaker 2: Frida Aga much like Todd Senser citizen Watchdog, farmer inspector General.

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Speaker 2: He was on the program earlier this week talking about

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Speaker 2: some of the shenanigans going on with city council, the

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Speaker 2: Mayor's office, et cetera. Andrea Ewing brother Dre would like

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Speaker 2: to call him. He calls himself that Andrea Ewing On Facebook,

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Speaker 2: he rants regularly, you know about some very important topics

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Speaker 2: in the city. Former law enforcement officer thirty years on

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Speaker 2: the force, might write on that was thirty full years, Andre,

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Speaker 2: It was about just.

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Speaker 8: Short of thirty. So let's just say twenty nine. And

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Speaker 8: once you get over the half this thirty.

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Speaker 2: Years, there you are. I'll round up for you. And

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Speaker 2: well what it's easy to do with you man?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Pivoting over, We talked a little bit about the whole

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Speaker 2: chief situation and the problems with that. Something tells me,

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Speaker 2: because she's been around for a long time. She has

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Speaker 2: a very very big contract with the City of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: and she is a profound critic of law enforcement. You know,

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Speaker 2: or I guess iris rollie Andre. They just re upped

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Speaker 2: her contract apparently two days after the election. They didn't

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Speaker 2: want that to be an election issue, so she's got

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Speaker 2: a bigger contract. And I note from prior reporting that

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Speaker 2: I've read around from other news outlets that she directed

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Speaker 2: some of the money to her husband to print T

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Speaker 2: shirts and hoodies and things of that. She hired her

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Speaker 2: son to do some of the work on Government Square

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Speaker 2: with regard to the youth violence, having so a lot

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Speaker 2: of nepotism going on in there, but being a subcontractor

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Speaker 2: not an employee of the city, I guess she's allowed

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Speaker 2: to do that, although it looks terrible. What's your take

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Speaker 2: on her involvement in all this? How did she become

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Speaker 2: such a powerful player in the city and how is

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Speaker 2: it they keep bringing her back year after year after year.

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Speaker 8: Andre Clear was the start here. Iris Rowley is untouchable,

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Speaker 8: Okay at this point in the game of things that

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Speaker 8: we've witnessed since two thousand and one, in her direct

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Speaker 8: involvement with Tim Thomas the shooting, she has not stopped

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Speaker 8: from that point. And interesting enough, she has done some

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Speaker 8: say good things with police reform, but it has gone

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Speaker 8: to a point of being overboard. I've been very vocal

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Speaker 8: about saying what exactly is her position? You got to

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Speaker 8: remember that Astab got in office strictly from Iris Rowley

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Speaker 8: beating the streets for him twice. Okay, she was the

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Speaker 8: she was the one who started advocating advocating for AFTAB

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Speaker 8: early when he was elected, and he of course hired

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Speaker 8: her to city hall.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 8: She's been a consultant for sure long and that's been clear.

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Speaker 8: And she also was a extreme selection for Chief Aji.

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Speaker 8: So Iris Rollie right now is above the law and

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Speaker 8: she's moving in that same direction. So it doesn't matter

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Speaker 8: basically what goes on or what people say, what's her payout,

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Speaker 8: her husband's getting something. If AFTAB City Manager, council is

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Speaker 8: allowing it and she and she's a consultant for the city,

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Speaker 8: then do you look at Iris Rolly or you'd you

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Speaker 8: look at the leadership that's saying, hey, this is what

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Speaker 8: we are giving you the power to do, and no

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Speaker 8: one's gonna touch you, and you're going to have all

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Speaker 8: the backing necessary to do whatever you want. And that's

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Speaker 8: clear and that as obvious in the way that she

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Speaker 8: moves and operates.

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Speaker 2: So because of her, I'll say that we use the

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Speaker 2: word popularity within a lot of people within the community.

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Speaker 2: She wields a lot of power over who those folks

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Speaker 2: in the community vote for I don't understand blind allegiance Andre,

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Speaker 2: but that's just apparently the way it is. Now. Considering that, well,

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Speaker 2: we'll just say we've got some issues with Iris Rolly

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Speaker 2: in these contracts, and let's just say, the City of

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Speaker 2: Sinsinaty is this is too much. We're gonna break ties

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Speaker 2: with her. You know, I know you said she's untouchable,

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Speaker 2: and I agree with you because that's the way it seems.

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Speaker 2: Does anybody really think if they cut Iris Rolly loose

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Speaker 2: in advance of that election, that Cory Bowman would be mayor? Now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, could she go out there and all these

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Speaker 2: blue Democrat, very blue folks that live in the city,

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Speaker 2: would they actually listen to her and not vote for

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Speaker 2: a haveta have provall since he was the only Democrat

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Speaker 2: on the ticket. That much power?

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Speaker 8: Yes, I'm gonna actually say she has that much power,

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Speaker 8: you know, to see, she's at every political event, She

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Speaker 8: has her hand in everything. She has the support of

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Speaker 8: Damon Lynch has a lot of powerful pastors and business

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Speaker 8: owners in the city. You don't get to move the

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Speaker 8: way she moves without having some serious, serious, major players

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Speaker 8: that are backing you up.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 8: And so when people constantly say, man, how can she

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Speaker 8: move this way and that way? Hey, guess what if

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02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 8: your big brother says I don't care what you do,

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Speaker 8: I got you, guess what, you will go in and

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Speaker 8: bully anybody anytime, anywhere and have a voice in any position.

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Speaker 8: If you look on any news, speeds or what have you,

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Speaker 8: IRIS is always in the background somewhere. And so it's

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Speaker 8: been clear that the aftab the council saying, hey, this

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Speaker 8: is what We're gonna write you a check to do

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Speaker 8: these things. But I've always just said, hey, where's the

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Speaker 8: money going, how is it distributed? Let's see the numbers

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Speaker 8: of the total success and make sure you're transparent to

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Speaker 8: the city.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to show these numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's doing a great job and achieving the

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Speaker 2: goals that she was paid, that she's being paid to do,

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02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 2: then they should all be walking around trumpeting that. But apparently,

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Speaker 2: and this is kind of thing I learned from Todd

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Speaker 2: Zinzer and others, all the money that goes out to

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Speaker 2: these various very political, non governmental organizations to do work

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Speaker 2: in the community of whatever variety, nobody's following up the

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Speaker 2: scene if that's even being done. The money goes out.

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Speaker 2: There's no accountability. It just keeps going out. And I

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Speaker 2: worry about that because when you send out that kind

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Speaker 2: of money on a short budget we've got anyway, maybe

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Speaker 2: that money is going out because it finds a loop

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Speaker 2: right back into the pockets of candidates running for office.

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Speaker 8: Right there's a lot of issues that's going on, and

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Speaker 8: I've been clear to say, when you have things that

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Speaker 8: or this extreme, then maybe a federal audit needs to

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Speaker 8: come in and just look at the entire process. Just

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Speaker 8: do a federal audit, see where these numbers, this money

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Speaker 8: are being moved into certain hands, and get it from

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Speaker 8: the top down. Because then if you do that, I

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02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 8: guarantee you once again follow the money, and then you

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02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 8: will understand exactly how these things are being maneuvered. But

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02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 8: if no one questions that you can do whatever you

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Speaker 8: want when you're you're the sole bank in this.

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Speaker 2: Project, yes you can, Undre A young plause will bring

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Speaker 2: you back. We'll give you get a comment or two

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Speaker 2: on speaking of money, Follow the money, a ftab's car

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Speaker 2: trouble money. Receive the talk station A forty if you

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Speaker 2: have care see the talk station Brian Thomas with Andrea

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02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:54,080
Speaker 2: Ewing Andrea Ewing on Facebook follow him. He's on some

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02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,800
Speaker 2: excellent terrors and really things that make you go hmm.

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02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 2: He's speaking his heart and mind on matters he's familiar with.

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Speaker 2: And as we pivot away from Iris, rolly over to

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Speaker 2: Aftab parval I learned from Todd Zenser the other day

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Speaker 2: when he was on our Citizen Watchdog. He was a

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Speaker 2: former Inspector General for the federal government. We were talking

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Speaker 2: about this very issue Atab missing his car payment and

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02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:17,600
Speaker 2: having his car repossessed. Embarrassing, yes, but he mentioned that you,

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Speaker 2: as a federal government employee, they're not allowed to miss

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Speaker 2: their payments because it creates an opportunity for maybe bribery

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02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 2: or extortion. So there's good reasons. Do you want your

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02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:30,760
Speaker 2: elected officials or those working in government to be free

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02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 2: from that possibility. So here we have Aftab Purvoll running

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Speaker 2: one of the larger cities in the state of Ohio,

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Speaker 2: can't even manage his own finances and a really lame excuse. Andrea,

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Speaker 2: I know you heard it. He came out and said, well,

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Speaker 2: he had problems with his payment app as if he

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have gotten notices independent of that app that he

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02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,440
Speaker 2: was behind in his car payment so much so that

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Speaker 2: they were going to come and repossess his car. What's

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Speaker 2: your take on this, brother, Dre.

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Speaker 8: That's my take on it. I'm laughing because this is re.

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Speaker 8: I mean, at the end of the day, how can

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Speaker 8: you take care of the city if you can't take

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Speaker 8: care of your own home. And it comes down to

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Speaker 8: the responsibilities of things that are in place. I'm not

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Speaker 8: going to give you a pass on that. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I've never missed the car payment, never and avtab is

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Speaker 8: in control of way more money than I am, so

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Speaker 8: at the end of the day, it was just a

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Speaker 8: people can say, an honest mistake. No, it was once

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02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:35,120
Speaker 8: again neglect, just sloppy what I call bookkeeping. And if

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Speaker 8: you can't even manage your own financial account, then I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna go back to what I said prior to our conversation.

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Speaker 8: Let's do an entire federal audit on the money since

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Speaker 8: you've been in office, and let's see where the money goes,

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Speaker 8: because this is just a tell tale of the issues

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Speaker 8: and what has been involved since you've been in office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's obviously paid well in mouth he should

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Speaker 2: be able to afford a car payment. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what his financial situation is, but embarrassing at minimum. So

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Speaker 2: and again lame excuse coming out of the gate after that,

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Speaker 2: no follow up either. I haven't heard anybody press them

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02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 2: on well did you get any notices? Did they get

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Speaker 2: reach out to you? Your car just was gone one

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Speaker 2: day and you had no idea ahead of time that

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Speaker 2: that might happen. I don't buy that for a minute.

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Speaker 2: Andrew another one of your rants December fourth, on affordable housing,

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Speaker 2: the Wizard aftab strikes again. What were you ranting on

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Speaker 2: about this one? Andre?

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Speaker 8: Hey, I've said he's deanly he will look you dead

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Speaker 8: in your face and tell you public safety was number one,

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Speaker 8: two and three on his list, and I know from

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Speaker 8: a police officer standpoint that it was not. He only

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Speaker 8: came forward on it when he was pushed into a corner.

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Speaker 8: And the Sarah Heringer situation put everyone on blast. And

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Speaker 8: so here we are again with a housing situation. He

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Speaker 8: knew this was going to happen, it was already in place.

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Speaker 8: And if you want to build a house, and it's

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Speaker 8: interesting that Corey Bowman actually talked about that how these

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Speaker 8: properties are being placed and built and it's just a

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Speaker 8: setup for say, here's a affordable housing of six hundred

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Speaker 8: a month, but at time when it comes, guess what

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02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 8: it's going to raise through the roofs. So what if

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Speaker 8: he say, Oh, I had absolutely no clue. I'm just

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02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 8: totally upset. Here we go again. You didn't have a

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Speaker 8: clue about your car payment, and now you didn't have

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Speaker 8: a clue about something as serious as property in the

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Speaker 8: City of Cincinnati that has to come across council when

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Speaker 8: your death. I'm not buying it, and the city better

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Speaker 8: start paying attention.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that gave Corey Bowman at least

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Speaker 2: some traction was how the mayor treated the Hyde Park

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02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:47,839
Speaker 2: residents in the Bond Hill residence with this connected community's nonsense,

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Speaker 2: this one size fits all. You will build in accordance

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Speaker 2: with these very limited standards, or you're not going to

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Speaker 2: build at all. I mean, how do you expect to

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Speaker 2: achieve afordable housing when you don't give neighborhoods the flexibility

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Speaker 2: they need to do what they believe in that is

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Speaker 2: in their best interest. I find that very puzzling.

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Speaker 8: Oh, it is very puzzling. And I've already said affordable

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Speaker 8: housing is a it's a trick to get other things

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Speaker 8: in place. And if you look all across the city,

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Speaker 8: affordable housing is going to be a thing of the past.

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Speaker 8: You you can't you can't even get anything that's affordable

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Speaker 8: nowadays in the neighborhood. So this is going to backfire.

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Speaker 8: I've seen it backfire. I've seen how things operate in

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Speaker 8: this city, and it's going to get worse. I remember,

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Speaker 8: if you can remind me, Brian, what was the the

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Speaker 8: train situation downtown that they were trying to promote, and

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Speaker 8: they they voted the city voted it down, but over

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02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:53,080
Speaker 8: time it ended up costing the city millions. Anyway, with

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Speaker 8: the streetcar, the streetcar exactly now, when that was going on,

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Speaker 8: let me tell you something. Let me tell you something,

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Speaker 8: and this is this is a fact. When that was

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Speaker 8: going on and they said they voted it down, I'm

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02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:10,840
Speaker 8: doing details downtown Cincinnati and I'm and they're digging up

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Speaker 8: the streets. And I asked, what project do you have.

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Speaker 8: He said, oh, this is the streetcar. I said, well,

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Speaker 8: I was voted down. He said, well, he said, that's

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Speaker 8: above my pay grade. They told us to start digging.

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Speaker 8: It's going to get passed. And guess what it got passed.

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Speaker 8: And that's a fact. That's not that's not something I'm

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02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:32,360
Speaker 8: sitting here making up. You can go back and look

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02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:35,960
Speaker 8: at my say details when I was doing as an officer,

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Speaker 8: and that was getting placed in before it was passed.

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Speaker 2: So the rumors that are swirling, and I've heard from

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02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 2: quite a few what I consider connected people that they're

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02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 2: talking about, at least behind the scenes, a second leg

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Speaker 2: of the street car, even if they deny it, that

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02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 2: maybe coming forward at some point. Considering the history we've

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Speaker 2: got with the street car here, Andre.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, at this point, Brian, what is this city doing.

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02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 8: I'm telling you this city is in trouble and people

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02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:08,480
Speaker 8: better pay attention because even in my past posts I

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02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 8: said you want Gotham City overall, you're going to get

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Speaker 8: Gotham City. Whether it's the streetcar, whether it's this crazy

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02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:20,800
Speaker 8: case going on with Elmwood Jones, theaters and Connie Pillage.

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02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 8: This city is on edge, and you got the Henderson

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02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:30,040
Speaker 8: case coming up next month. I'm telling you right now, brother, Brian,

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Speaker 8: this city is on edge and this is going to

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02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:39,600
Speaker 8: be a hot mess New Year's and spring and summer

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02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:41,040
Speaker 8: coming up. Just get ready.

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Speaker 2: I wish you had more better news on that one.

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02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:46,080
Speaker 2: But I can't argue with you on that, Andrea, it

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02:10:46,120 --> 02:10:48,640
Speaker 2: does appear that things are heading in that direction on

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02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 2: that dismissal that murder case. After all the dispositive evidence

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02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:55,200
Speaker 2: and the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, all the appeals

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02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 2: that that guy went through, he's on death row thirty years,

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02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:01,440
Speaker 2: they ultimately dismiss it. Question, do you think iris Roy

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02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:02,400
Speaker 2: had anything to do with that?

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Speaker 8: I always ask how did Emwood Jones name even come up?

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Speaker 6: What was the.

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Speaker 8: I know they have the innocence projects and they look

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02:11:17,320 --> 02:11:19,920
Speaker 8: into evidence or what have you, But how did his

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Speaker 8: name even come up? And what's interesting is, of course

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Speaker 8: Deeters released the letters that was uh uh that signal

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Speaker 8: ninety nine posted as well, and and Deeters has expressed

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02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:38,480
Speaker 8: his outrage and and even the family had expressed their

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02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 8: outrage of talking about where they're disappointed, Connie Tilly said, no,

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Speaker 8: they are outraged of this. Uh this process. So this

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02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:53,360
Speaker 8: go once again now opens the door to investigate everything

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Speaker 8: that Deaters and his investigative team has touched and to see,

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Speaker 8: uh is there any wrongful convictions? Because that's what Connie

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02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:08,000
Speaker 8: Pillage clearly said that they said, this office got it wrong.

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Speaker 8: And that's a deep, deep statement.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is, most notably considering the appellate record. They

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Speaker 2: took it all the way from the state court through

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02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:18,480
Speaker 2: the state process, and the defendant moved over to the

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02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:21,640
Speaker 2: federal court and pursued federal processes, and all the courts

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02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:25,879
Speaker 2: said no guilty and there was nothing there to even consider.

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02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:28,680
Speaker 2: So I don't get this, and that's why it's big

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02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:30,320
Speaker 2: question mark for me. And that's kind of why I

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02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:33,600
Speaker 2: threw the irus' early question because who brought this to

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02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:36,360
Speaker 2: their attention? And I believe in that project. I don't

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02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:38,680
Speaker 2: think a man should be spending a moment time in jail.

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02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 2: It didn't commit the crime, and let's get him out

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02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 2: of jail if he was convicted wrongfully. But in this

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02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:45,720
Speaker 2: particular case, they just don't have the facts on that one,

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02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:47,880
Speaker 2: at least that's my take on it. Most notably after

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02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:50,720
Speaker 2: what the Supreme Court Justice Deeter said about when he

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Speaker 2: was Hamilton County prosecutor and how the case was prosecuted.

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Speaker 2: Brother dre Andre Ewing Finem on Facebook follow him you'll

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02:12:57,480 --> 02:12:59,920
Speaker 2: love his rants. I appreciate you joining the program today

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Speaker 2: and on behalf of my listening audience. Joe Streker, the producer,

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02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 2: and myself. We all wish you a very very merry

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Speaker 2: Christmas and happy New Year, and I hope I'm looking

2454
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:10,200
Speaker 2: forward to talking with you in the coming year.

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Speaker 1: Sir PA.

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Speaker 8: Likewise, Brian, thank you so much. I appreciate you, and

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Speaker 8: you have a peaceful and safe holiday. And all the

2458
02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 8: listeners hug and love your family every second that you get.

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Speaker 2: Amen to that, and I'll underscore it and put it

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Speaker 2: in bold and all caps. Take care of brother Dre.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk again soon. It's eight forty nine fifty five.

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Speaker 6: Care s