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Speaker 1: It's nice Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm doing Mazy Boston's

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Speaker 1: news radio.

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Speaker 2: It is Veterans Day, November eleventh, which celebrated the end

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Speaker 2: of World War One, and some people thought it actually

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Speaker 2: in effect started World War Two, the Treaty of Versaill, etc.

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Speaker 2: But Jeff Jacoby in the Boston Globe has an article

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Speaker 2: in his Arguable Calumn Today column today which is quite

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Speaker 2: the contrary. Very interesting read with Jeff Jacoby. This is

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Speaker 2: also Remembrance Day in Canada, so there's a lot for

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Speaker 2: us to celebrate tonight. We celebrate the service of everyone

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Speaker 2: who put on the uniform in this country, and we

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Speaker 2: will be doing a Veterans salute later on tonight at

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock, and I will invite all of you to

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Speaker 2: honor a veteran, a neighbor, a friend, a family member,

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Speaker 2: maybe a close family member who served in some form

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Speaker 2: or fashion during their lifetime in the service of the

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Speaker 2: US military. Or if you want to be a Canadian caller,

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Speaker 2: that's okay as well. We have lots to do tonight.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk with Republican grubernatorial candidate Brian Shortsleeve

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Speaker 2: about what I think is a crazy idea the state apparently,

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Speaker 2: under the leadership of Governor Heally, may actually give cities

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Speaker 2: and towns in Massachusetts the authority to triple triple your

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Speaker 2: auto excise tax. Those are the taxes that you paid

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Speaker 2: to the community. We'll get to that, and we'll also

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Speaker 2: talk about that betting scandal. Now not just in the NBA,

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Speaker 2: but in Major League Baseball. Two pitchers for the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Indians are in big trouble and if they are convicted,

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Speaker 2: they will spend a lot of time in federal prison.

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Speaker 2: This is a serious story. We'll talk about that at ten.

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Speaker 2: But we have four great guests tonight. In the first

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Speaker 2: one appropriately focuses on veterans. We're going to speak with

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Speaker 2: an attorney, Paula Almgren. Paula specializes in VA benefits and

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Speaker 2: long term care. She's going to tell us and those

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Speaker 2: of you who are veterans out there or family members

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Speaker 2: of veterans, please pay attention because she's going to tell

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Speaker 2: us about some benefits and financial support that most veterans

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Speaker 2: might not even realize exist. First of all, atturning Algren,

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Speaker 2: hope I got that pronunciation correctly.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to night Side, Thank you, glad to be here. Dan,

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Speaker 3: Happy veterans day.

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Speaker 2: Right back at you, right back at you. So tell

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Speaker 2: us everybody knows about VA benefits, but there's every veteran

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Speaker 2: should be in touch with their local you know, veterans representative.

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Speaker 2: Tell us what you have found out or what you

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Speaker 2: have discovered that maybe some veterans might not be aware of.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's several different benefits from the VA. But that's

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Speaker 3: a benefit that we we use a lot for our

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Speaker 3: elderly veterans, their spouses and their widows. Is a benefit

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Speaker 3: called a pension with aid in attendance, and this is

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Speaker 3: a cash benefit. So the veteran has to have served

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Speaker 3: one day active duty during an official declaration of wars.

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Speaker 3: It has to be They don't have to have been

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Speaker 3: in the front lines. They just have to been activated

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Speaker 3: during official wartime dates. And then their assets, their care

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Speaker 3: costs have to exceed their income. So if someone's home

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Speaker 3: and they have four thousand dollars a month of care

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Speaker 3: and they are combined, Let's say it's a veteran with

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Speaker 3: and forty eight dollars a year. There is you know, asset.

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Speaker 3: The assets have to be under one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: So hard.

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Speaker 2: The numbers are tough on radio, as I'm sure you know.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about eligibility. You said in a declared war.

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Speaker 2: We haven't had a declared war in this country in

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Speaker 2: reality since World War Two? Does this not apply to

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Speaker 2: men and women who served in Korea, Vietnam, in other

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have, we're still under an official declaration

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Speaker 3: of war. So the wartime dates and these are things

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Speaker 2: Even though they weren't technically declarations of war by Congress.

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Speaker 2: And I know a big deal was made about Korea

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Speaker 2: And so you do not have to be a veteran

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Speaker 2: you're saying is that you quoted a figure of I

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Speaker 2: you know whatever, three thousand dollars. How did they get

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Speaker 3: So as long as you meet the criteria, and one

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Speaker 3: aid and attendance of another, so you have to need

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Speaker 3: help with your activities a daily living, and then your

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Speaker 3: care costs have to exceed your income. So when you

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Speaker 3: get to a negative number, you get the full benefit.

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Speaker 3: And so for a married veteran it's two thousand, seven

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Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five dollars a month. For a veteran

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Speaker 3: alone without a spouse, it's two three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: wartime veterans, they are getting fifteen fifteen a month, which

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Speaker 4: Their care costs.

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Speaker 3: And it's not taxable because it's reimbursement towards care, So

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Speaker 3: it's not a taxable benefit from the VA.

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Speaker 2: Okay. And the best thing, Paul, it would be if

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Speaker 2: there are individuals I see that there's I have on

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Speaker 2: my page here a veteran Veterans benefit. You have a

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Speaker 2: book about elder care of the rules, but that's broader

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Speaker 2: than veterans. How can full contact you? Is your law

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Speaker 2: group the Berkshire Law.

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Speaker 3: Group, Yes, But for the VA benefits, most people deal

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Speaker 3: with the local Veterans agent or the Veterans Service Agent,

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Speaker 3: and they are through like disabled American veterans, the Veterans

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Speaker 3: also have Veterans Service Officers bsos are called. And then

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Speaker 3: a lot of the towns in cities across Massachusetts and

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Speaker 3: all states in the country have veterans agents. So you

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Speaker 3: just want to make sure you're picking someone who's done

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Speaker 2: Yeh. Many many years ago, a friend of mine who

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Speaker 2: gunshot wound in Korea came across a little known benefit

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Speaker 2: could prove it, you were eligible. He told me for

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Speaker 2: I said, well, let me walk, let's go down from

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Speaker 2: the JFK building, federal building.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and he had figured it out. We walked

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Speaker 2: because it was legitimate. He had been wounded in during

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Speaker 2: it was the records were there, and I had never

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Speaker 2: heard of it. I didn't practice law in veterans area.

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Speaker 2: But but my friend who shall remain anonymous but has

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Speaker 2: A pretty sharp guy. And so there are benefits out

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this would help you or your

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Speaker 2: way in which they can contact you, great, If you'd

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Speaker 2: prefer not, that's okay as well, your choice.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Really, what most veterans who are eligible for benefit to

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Speaker 3: they're military best one. They they know exactly how to

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Speaker 3: have to put your paperwork in perfectly with the VA perfect, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And there's another thing. All veterans, even if they're not

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Speaker 3: Healthcare so a system. It's the VAHA and so all

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Speaker 2: Again, be in touchdown Veterans agent. That's that's as support

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Speaker 2: first step. I'm running over, but I don't mind running

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Paul, appreciate the time. When we

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Speaker 2: Laura in Massachusetts, what does it mean for you? I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's as simple as some people portray it,

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Speaker 2: but we'll find out. We're going to talk with a

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WAZ Boston's

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Speaker 2: Like to welcome Bethany Molethrop. Bethany, welcome to Nightside.

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Speaker 6: How are you, hey, Dan?

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: You're a job recruiter at a company called Tallenter in Boston.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not familiar with talentner. Tell us

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Speaker 2: what Talenter does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we are at technology staffing for We're headquartered in

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Speaker 5: New York City, but I work out of our Boston office.

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Speaker 5: We've been around for twenty years now, placing technology professionals

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Speaker 2: Well, we have just I believe, passed a new salary

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Speaker 2: transparency law here in Massachusetts, and I'm a little confused

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Speaker 2: about it, but I want to make it very clear.

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Speaker 2: You can't walk into the boss's office tomorrow and say, Hey,

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Speaker 2: what is Mary Beth over there, who does the same

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Speaker 2: job as I make. What is Bill the guy who's

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Speaker 2: the legal council here, what does he make? Explain what

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Speaker 2: salary transparency means in the context of the Massachusetts law.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So this rolled out almost two weeks ago

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Speaker 5: on October twenty ninth. It applies to all employers with

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Speaker 5: range for each of the positions, whether that's publicly posted

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Speaker 2: Well, the National Toy Hall of Fame has made its

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Speaker 4: We are not in Cleveland, Ohio. We are in Rochester,

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Speaker 2: Now is your open you? It's called the Museum of Play,

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Speaker 4: but that I think kind of showcase that this board

436
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: game hadn't made it as far as you know, being

437
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 4: around for decades and decades and the popular cultures like geist.

438
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 2: Okay, the only three that I have is Battleship, Trivial Pursuit,

439
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: and Slime. And so I've said slime for last. Please

440
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: tell us what slime is.

441
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: So the fun thing about slime, So the first commercial

442
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: Slime was produced in the mid nineteen seventies. But Slime

443
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: is sort of this and I think you know, parents

444
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 4: out there that have kids probably are all pretty familiar

445
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 4: with that. Kids seen to love it, but it's something

446
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: that you can make yourself. But they are also commercial

447
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: versions of it available, and it's you know, it's got

448
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: the X factor that kids love. It's this looey gooey

449
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 4: substance that feels like it's on the verge of, you know,

450
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 4: being water and melting all over your floor and carpet,

451
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 4: but it's not. And it's it's fun. It's taptile and

452
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: really for kids, it's something that they can spend a

453
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 4: lot of time doing. Imagine that to play with.

454
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: You know, my favorite toy is a kid I spent

455
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 2: hours playing with my against my brother. It was hockey

456
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: with marbles. It was like the early incarnations of you

457
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: could move the hockey guys. They were obviously metal. We

458
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: have the Canadians and the maple Leafs, who probably came

459
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: out of Canada. Has that. I don't even know what

460
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: you call it. We just called it, you know, playing

461
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: playing hockey with marbles and there was a goalie and

462
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: a goal uh and a net and you try to

463
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: score goals. Is that in the National Hall of Fame?

464
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: Because if it isn't, it was the best part of

465
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Speaker 2: the childhood.

466
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 4: Games you have, you have got to nominate it, so

467
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 4: it's not But the great thing is that anybody in

468
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: the public can nominate. The museum would played dot org.

469
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: We love to hear from people about what they played with,

470
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: what had impact on them.

471
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: What This was huge in the sixties, I mean huge

472
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Speaker 2: last sixties. You didn't. It wasn't like some of the

473
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Speaker 2: more advanced games now where they have like the looks

474
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: like a big puck. This was marbles. So you were

475
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: firing a marble back and forth and you could everyone's

476
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: while you could wing, you wing your opponent. But yeah,

477
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: there was It was great. It was you. It was

478
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: almost like you know the soccer game kids play now

479
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: where they can move the soccer players up and down.

480
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: It's the similar. It's yeah, yeah, but this was with

481
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: hockey players on a rink. It was you know, a

482
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: red line, two blue lines face off circles, and the

483
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: players were somewhat limited. They can only they could spin,

484
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Speaker 2: uh and if you caught it right, you could you

485
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: could you could fire that marble. I'm stunned that you

486
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: don't have that. Let me ask you this, do you have.

487
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: Like the bubble hockey game, which we do have at

488
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 4: the museum that's playable, but yeah, not in the Hall

489
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: of Fame.

490
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's the one where where you have where you

491
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: where you're hitting.

492
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: So that's kind of in that same vein.

493
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: Well, you're kind of hitting it. I think what you're

494
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: talking about there is you're you're firing a disc back

495
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: and forth and you can kind of wing it off

496
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: the sideboard and and try to score. Is a little

497
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: slot at each end of the game. Is that Is

498
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: that the one you're talking about?

499
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

500
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Speaker 4: There, Well there's the air hockey, but then there's a

501
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: bubble hockey that had the players like you're talking about

502
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 4: that you can spin and they It wasn't a marble though,

503
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: So bubble you're talking about hockey in there? No, it's not.

504
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 4: I think it's been nominated before, but now, yeah, particularly myself,

505
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 4: So I've got to I've got a push for that internal.

506
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: Rochester, New York. You're almost in Canada. I mean you

507
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: have the same No, no, pattern is Canada.

508
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 4: Exactly have today in November.

509
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that it normally starts up there a

510
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: little earlier, I think, but that's okay, don't worry, You'll

511
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: get some more. Look, I really enjoyed a chain. You're

512
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 2: a good sport senior director of communications. How many folks

513
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: walk through there every year? You must have some sort

514
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: of Do you get half a million people over the

515
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: course of a year.

516
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, uh so last year was seven thousand, which

517
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: was our biggest year.

518
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: Boy, that's great. That's great. That's that's attendance for like

519
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: a great Triple A minor league baseball team. Okay, that's no,

520
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm serious. That that is a big Yeah, that's a

521
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: good That is a really good attendance. Shane, thank you

522
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: so much, really enjoyed the conversation. We'll have you back

523
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: and folks can go to Rochester, New York. The Strong

524
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: National Museum of Play is the official name the Strong

525
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: National Museum of Play, Rochester, New York, not Minnesota. Uh,

526
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: thanks so much, Shane. Talk to you again.

527
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.

528
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: The sports motif going. You're going to talk about Rob Gronkowski,

529
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: the Gronks decision to retire this week as a New

530
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: England Patriot. He will sign a one day contract. No,

531
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: you won't see him back on the field, but he

532
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: will be honored I'm sure at Chillette Stadium. We'll talk

533
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: with carry Thompson, Boston Globe Sports reporter, right after the

534
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: break here.

535
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Speaker 1: Of night Side night Side with Dan Ray, I'm Boston's

536
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: news radio.

537
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: I would argue that probably the most lovable sports figure

538
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: in Boston in the last I don't know, twenty years

539
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: is not necessarily Tom Brady. It's really probably Rob Gronkowski.

540
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: This was a guy who really had fun playing football

541
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Speaker 2: with us. As Carrie Thompson, Boston Globe Sports for porter

542
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: and writer, Hey Carry, welcome back. How are you hey? Dan? Great?

543
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on My.

544
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Speaker 2: Pleasure, My pleasure. Gronk always had this joy viva being

545
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: a football player, and uh, I don't think anybody seemed

546
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: to enjoy it more than Rob Gronkowski. He, of course,

547
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: along with Tom Brady, finished their careers down in Tampa Bay.

548
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

549
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: They both won another Super Bowl ring down there. But

550
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: Gronk has stayed close, stayed active, very accessible here in

551
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Speaker 2: New England. Uh has he make is? He make it

552
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: his home and he seems to be around everywhere? Is

553
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: he is he become? Is this guy who grew up

554
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: in Buffalo decided to move south into the warmer weather

555
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: and live in the greater Boston area.

556
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 6: Oh, that's The funny part about Gronk, he's kind of ubiquitous,

557
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 6: Like we see him everywhere. We see him on soot Sports,

558
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 6: we see him, we see him, we see him dedicating

559
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 6: a playground in Boston. And actually, how cool was that

560
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 6: the Gronk playground?

561
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: That was Actually I love that word, by the way,

562
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: ubiquitous because that does describe Gronk in retirement. So what's

563
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: the deal here? I guess there was. I saw a

564
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: story in one of the channels today that there was

565
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: a woman who was instrumental in uh planning of the playground.

566
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: Uh you know, on the esplanate that that Gronk was

567
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: responsible for. Did you cover that part of the story,

568
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: And if you did, it's pretty I.

569
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 6: Did not, But I bet I've read the same story

570
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 6: that you did, which was ESPN's Mike Reethe reporting, And

571
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 6: according to Mike, it was Susan Hurley, who actually just

572
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 6: passed on November first from cancer. But she she had

573
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 6: befriend befriended Gronk, and Gronk actually credited her with the

574
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 6: idea to get this one day contract done at Gillette

575
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Speaker 6: for for Wednesday. So uh, she had some poll for sure.

576
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So is this going to be tomorrow. Is this Wednesday?

577
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 6: Yes, tomorrow, it's gonna be. It's gonna be tomorrow, and

578
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 6: it's gonna be twelve fifteen at Gillette Stadium. They've called

579
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Speaker 6: a press conference, so oh yeah, it be. It'd be

580
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 6: a good timing. I'll hit that and then heads to

581
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 6: the Celtics game in the law.

582
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: Well, the busy daut But you know, a lot of

583
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: people don't understand the significance of it. But these guys

584
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: who play the vast majority of their career with one

585
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: team and then make a few bucks in free agency

586
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: or whatever, they want to come back, and they want

587
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 2: to retire as a member of the team that they

588
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: really were so associated with. They did it for Tom Brady,

589
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: and now they're doing it for Rob Garkowski. I bet

590
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: it's going to be a fairly emotional day tomorrow. As

591
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: crazy as that sounds, oh no doubt.

592
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 6: So many motions. I mean, we're honoring one of the

593
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 6: greatest tight ends of all time. I mean, he's up

594
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 6: there in the record books for pretty much every statistical category.

595
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Speaker 2: I can't think of anyone else who would compare to Grokowski,

596
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: including Travis Kelce. With all apologies to Travis Kelce. I'll

597
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: take Gronkowski any day of the week.

598
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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I'm with you, And obviously I grew

599
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 6: up here in Boston, so I will I will co sign.

600
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Speaker 6: But we've had some good ones, so I mean Antonio Gates,

601
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 6: you know, Francis is up there. Yeah, Russ Francis even

602
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 6: more modern like Tony Gonzalez was really good for a

603
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 6: long time. But I do agree that Gronk in terms

604
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Speaker 6: of dominance and winning, I think Gronk is number one.

605
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: I go back to Fred Arbanez for the Kansas City

606
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: Chiefs back in the sixties when Lenny Yon was fired

607
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: to ball hit, But no Gronk. Certainly, I cannot think

608
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: of another one another tight end that was more dominant.

609
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: Gates would be probably the closest that that that I

610
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: could come up with. Uh. The other thing, whenever I

611
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: think of Gronkowski, and I don't know if you've thought

612
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: of this, but I think about the two guys who

613
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: were drafted. I think they were drafted the same year,

614
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: he and Aaron Hernandez and took obviously a road which

615
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: took him down a pretty dark alley. And it's no

616
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: longer with us convicted suicide allegedly and Gronkowski who just

617
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: seemed to always enjoy what he was doing, where Fernandez

618
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 2: was much more of a quiet, almost a brooding figure.

619
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: You look at those two guys and you say to yourself,

620
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: one will live in history as maybe the greatest tight

621
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: end in the history of the National Football League, and

622
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: the other lives in you know, questionable infamy. You know,

623
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: sad story. One is a sad story, and one is

624
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: a really joyful story. And the joyful story culminates tomorrow.

625
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: How how big a story do you think it will

626
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: be tomorrow amongst the sport I guess four, five and seven.

627
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: All the all the TV stations will be there, You

628
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: guys will be there, all the newspapers will be there.

629
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: And I hope you get a chance to sit with

630
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: him for a few minutes and ask and ask some

631
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: questions and have some fun with it, because it's gonna

632
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: be a It's gonna be a great I would bet you.

633
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: I would hope that some of the TV sports stations,

634
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: and I should talk to my pel Steve Burton, they

635
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: should cover that live. Do you think it will be

636
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: covered live or no?

637
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 6: There's definitely gonna be some way to stream it. Whether

638
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 6: the Patriots do it themselves and on social media or

639
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 6: the TV stations pick it up. But I would bet

640
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: that the Patriots would have a stream going somewhere, for sure.

641
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: I would. That's the sort of thing that I would

642
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: if I knew it was going at twelve fifteen, I

643
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: would be in front of the TV set to watch it.

644
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: Because let me ask you this. You know him. I've

645
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: never met him, But my question to you as a

646
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: reporter is you've been in his company? Is he as

647
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: good a guy in person and as fun in person

648
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: as he appears to be whenever you see him on television.

649
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 6: Well, honestly, I'm one of the younger reporters on the beat,

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Speaker 6: so I got here in twenty twenty two, so Goronk

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Speaker 6: was gone by the time I got here. I did

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Speaker 6: get him one on one once, just over zoom, but

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Speaker 6: I actually haven't interviewed him in person.

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Speaker 4: I can speak.

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Speaker 6: I can speak as a fan because I was a

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Speaker 6: Patriots fan back in the day. And nobody's more fun

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Speaker 6: than the Yo Fiesta Fiesta guy. I mean, come on now,

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Speaker 6: like when you when you're talking Gronk, we're talking greatness,

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Speaker 6: we're talking fun, and we're talking an outsized personality that

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Speaker 6: matches his game. And you know that's that's what makes

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Speaker 6: him really interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love, for example, the football drop from the

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Speaker 2: helicopter and catch you your helicopter like like a catcher,

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Speaker 2: try to catch a pop fly behind home plate. And

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Speaker 2: sure enough he caught it, and that thing's coming down at.

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Speaker 7: A pretty good clip. Yeah, he's, he's, he's. He's a

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Speaker 7: brilliant marketer. He's a brilliant and he marketed himself. Carry,

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Speaker 7: I really appreciate you a couple of years ago. You

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Speaker 7: have fun to talk to him man, and I love sports.

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Speaker 2: I basically do you know politics and card events here,

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Speaker 2: but I actuality, Carry. I wanted to be a sportscaster

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Speaker 2: when I was really young.

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Speaker 1: That was my goal.

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Speaker 2: So I ended up in the broadcasting business. But I

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Speaker 2: just when I get to do sports, it's really it's

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Speaker 2: really a lot of fun. And I appreciate anytime you'll

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Speaker 2: come on with us. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you do a good job at it. Thanks for

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Speaker 6: having me on.

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Speaker 2: Right Garry, I follow your stuff for the Globe. You

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Speaker 2: do a great job. Thanks again. We are done with

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Speaker 2: the hour and when we come back, we're going to

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Speaker 2: get into my Bailey Wick, which is the serious stuff.

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Speaker 2: Apparently there's a move up at the Massachusetts State House

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Speaker 2: to allow cities and towns to up to triple our

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Speaker 2: automobile excise tax. Now, if you have a car in Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: you pay food the knows every year with your auto

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Speaker 2: excise tax. And we're gonna be talking with Grubernatro candidate

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Speaker 2: Brian Shortsleeve who has brought this to my attention and

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Speaker 2: why he says if he's elected governor, this is not

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Speaker 2: gonna fly. I'm not sure it might not hit the

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Speaker 2: books before that, but you'll get a good sense of

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Speaker 2: Brian short Sleeve right after the nine o'clock news here

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Speaker 2: on Nightside