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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Matt Rouse, great stuff today. Appreciate the time as always,

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Speaker 2: Beer Dave. Good to talk to you this morning.

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Speaker 3: How are you, Good morning, Dan Carol.

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Speaker 1: Just a little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're hoping.

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Speaker 3: They've been brewing their beer over at the Claremont County

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Speaker 3: So hopefully we're going to see them resurface somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, over at Fabled Brewworks, they are talking about the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is really cool if you haven't been over

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Speaker 3: Well, they have one of the most talented brewers with

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The couple of times I've been to Little Miami Brewing,

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Speaker 2: They're trying to pull that off at Arnold's this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they've got sixteen taps and they are pouring

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Speaker 3: Arnold's is such a great tradition that everyone should experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been Arnold's there in downtown. Is this a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. And then grain Works has a great, a

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Speaker 2: Excellent, Beer Dave. What's going to get it done for

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'll probably get run down to Arnold's. That's

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of beers in one place. That's good stuff,

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Speaker 2: Beer Dave. What to leave it right there as always, man,

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