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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBSY Coustin's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Dan Watkins. As we move into

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Speaker 2: the ten o'clock hour here on Tuesday night. Where has

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Speaker 2: October gone? It's the twenty eighth day of October. The

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Speaker 2: month of October ends Halloween, of course, on the thirty first.

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Speaker 2: On Friday night and Saturday morning, it will be November.

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Speaker 2: This the year just seemed to have picked up speed.

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Speaker 2: It's just the last few months have gone very quickly. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: nothing has happened in Washington for the last twenty eight days.

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Speaker 2: The federal government has been shut down since October one.

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Speaker 2: Today is day twenty eighth of the shutdown, and there

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Speaker 2: seems to be no end in sight. And as a

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Speaker 2: consequence of the government shutdown, the supplemental nutrition distance program

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Speaker 2: called SNAP. SNAP benefits that about a million people here

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Speaker 2: in Massachusetts rely upon will go dark this Saturday, which

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Speaker 2: means that the SNAP benefits that a million people, and

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Speaker 2: many of them are single moms. Many of those million

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Speaker 2: kids children, and some are older folks as well. And

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some fraud in there, but the vast

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Speaker 2: majority of these folks have a need to live and

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Speaker 2: to eat and to have some dignity. And one of

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Speaker 2: the things that we do with our sort of social

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Speaker 2: contract here in Massachusetts is we make sure that we

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Speaker 2: like to think, we make sure that no one goes

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Speaker 2: to bed hungry any night in Massachusetts. And I know

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Speaker 2: that it's a big task, and I know it costs

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Speaker 2: a lot of money, and the governor has taken a

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Speaker 2: position that I definitely disagree with. The governor seems to

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Speaker 2: me that she wants to play politics with this. Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, you had the congresswoman here from Massachusetts, Catherin Clark,

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Speaker 2: who made a comment that they know that people will suffer,

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Speaker 2: but that's the leverage that the Democrats have, which was

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Speaker 2: really a callous remark by Captain Clark. She should be

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Speaker 2: a better person than that, in my opinion. But this

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Speaker 2: is what more Healy said recently about this stopping of

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Speaker 2: snap benefits. And I have a solution, talked about it

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Speaker 2: on Friday night, and I'm going to talk about it again.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I have the Captain Clark, so let

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Speaker 2: me let me play this back to back. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to change my thought here, Shane, Please please play for me.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be twelve A Democratic Representative Catherine

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Speaker 2: Clark basically talking about family suffering as bargaining leverage Cut

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Speaker 2: twelve A, please shame.

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Speaker 3: I mean, shutdowns are terrible and of course there will

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Speaker 3: be you know, families that are going to suffer. We

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Speaker 3: take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of

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Speaker 3: the few leverage times we have.

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Speaker 2: One of the few leverage times we have. And the

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Speaker 2: weed that she's referring to the Democrats in Washington and

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Speaker 2: back here in Massachusetts, this is what Governor Moore Healey

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Speaker 2: had to say, pointing fingers as the Democrats are so

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Speaker 2: apt to do, and many times they're legitimate, but this

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Speaker 2: is one where we could do something about it. I'll

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Speaker 2: explain in a moment, but this is cut twelve B.

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Speaker 2: Governor Moore Healey concerned. It seems to me about just

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Speaker 2: pointing fingers.

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Speaker 4: President Trump has chosen to stop all snap benefits to

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Speaker 4: Americans starting next week. You know, leadership is a choice,

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Speaker 4: and sadly President Trump has chosen to take away food

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Speaker 4: from people all around this country. Let me tell you

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Speaker 4: the impact in Massachusetts. That's going to mean that that

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Speaker 4: one million people in Massachusetts are not going to have

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Speaker 4: their food benefits starting next week. Thirty two percent of

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Speaker 4: them are children, thirty one percent are people with disabilities,

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Speaker 4: twenty six percent are seniors. So over a million people

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Speaker 4: in the Bay State next week will lose their food benefits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's talking about Saturday. That's coming Saturday, November. First. Well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, I think she's mistaken. This isn't a

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Speaker 2: decision that President Trump made. This is the decision the

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Speaker 2: consequence of the Republicans of voting to open the government

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Speaker 2: and end the shutdown. Madam Governor and the Democrats your

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Speaker 2: party are the people who are voting to keep the

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Speaker 2: government closed. That by not voting to open the government.

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Speaker 2: That is a fact, which, however you want to spend

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Speaker 2: spin it as leadership is a choice. Well, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to turn it around on your governor, because leadership is

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Speaker 2: a choice. I talked about this on Friday night. On

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Speaker 2: Friday night, I talked about what Governor Heally could do

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Speaker 2: to stop people in Massachusetts, the thirty two percent children

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Speaker 2: six percent who are seniors. We have a rainy day

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Speaker 2: fund in Massachusetts eight point eight billion billion with a

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Speaker 2: very important rainy day fund. It's not gonna exhaust it,

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Speaker 2: but that rainy day fund could be used for people

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Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts. What good is a raindy day fund

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Speaker 2: if it's not used for people who are gonna wake

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Speaker 2: up on Saturday morning and for them when they lose

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Speaker 2: their snap benefits. It will be a rainy day fund.

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Speaker 2: And apparently we could. We could go in there for

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Speaker 2: a month for just a couple one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: and solve the problem here in Massachusetts and serve as

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Speaker 2: a shining light to the country that we take care

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Speaker 2: of our own here in Massachusetts. I want to play

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Speaker 2: my comments this. These comments are from Friday night, Friday night,

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Speaker 2: in a conversation with a caller here on night Side

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Speaker 2: during the nine o'clock hour. You can listen. If you

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Speaker 2: don't believe me, you can listen to Nightside on demand

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock Friday night. Please play a portion of that

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Speaker 2: hour cut eighteen A, please, Shane. We have a rainy

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Speaker 2: day fund in Massachusetts, which is there? You know it's

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Speaker 2: I'll get the amount of money, but it's somewhere around

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Speaker 2: eight billion dollars. I know that's the last number I

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Speaker 2: had seen. If the government, the federal government is still

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Speaker 2: shut down by November first and the SNAP funds stop,

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Speaker 2: I don't see why we can't use some of the

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Speaker 2: rainy Day fund money here in Massachusetts to make sure

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Speaker 2: that no family is hungry in Massachusetts or no mom. No.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the people who are on the SNAP

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Speaker 2: programs are either single moms, kids, or are older or

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Speaker 2: elder people. So my argument would be is we had

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Speaker 2: eight billion dollars in our rainy day fund in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: Now that normally is for when there's a problem, you know, economically, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is going to be a problem economically for these families.

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Speaker 2: So I think the governor should invade with the legislature

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Speaker 2: and use that rainy day fund. And the governor has

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Speaker 2: been now asked about that. I don't know if it

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Speaker 2: was prompted by my comments on on Friday night, but

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Speaker 2: the governor I heard her asked about that today. It

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Speaker 2: was during the six o'clock news tonight on Channel five.

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Speaker 2: She was asked about it and said no, said no.

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Speaker 2: So the governor has the ability to free up enough money,

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Speaker 2: a small amount, a small percentage of the Rainy Day fund,

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Speaker 2: but she's going to choose not to do that. Well,

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Speaker 2: today one of the candidates for governor, Mike Kaneely, released

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Speaker 2: a pretty car apprehensive uh plan uh. And we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk with him next. We'll be back on Night's Side.

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Speaker 2: And if you'd like to talk about it, and if

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Speaker 2: you agree with me that the governor is asleep at

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Speaker 2: the switch or as essentially not doing what needs to

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Speaker 2: be done, fine, if you disagree with me. If you

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Speaker 2: agree with me, we need to put some pressure on

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Speaker 2: this governor. And by the way, UH, their office monitors

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Speaker 2: everything that's said on the radio. They never reached out

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Speaker 2: to me today or yesterday, and I was hoping they would.

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Speaker 2: But at this point, if you're a snap recipient this

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Speaker 2: governor UH, and I, as a resident of Massachusetts, want

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Speaker 2: my money that's in the Rainy Day Fund to help you.

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Speaker 2: Six thirty six one seven, nine thirty will be talked

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Speaker 2: with Republican GUBERNATORO candidate Mike Kinneely about his press release

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Speaker 2: which lays it out very clearly. Right after this break, it's.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Yoston's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now is Mike Kneely. He is a candidate

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Speaker 2: for governor. Please bring Mike up for me, Shane on seven.

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Speaker 2: Is he there?

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Speaker 5: I'm here, Dan, Okay, great.

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Speaker 2: Mike, just wanted to make sure you were there. I

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Speaker 2: was delighted to see your eleven point plan to protect Snap,

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Speaker 2: to protect SNAP recipients amid Healy's failure. So I want

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Speaker 2: to focus on the Rainy Day Fund. We'll hit some

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Speaker 2: of the other the points in your plan. But the

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Speaker 2: Rainy Day Fund now has about eight point eight billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: that's right, and it says one month of that money

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Speaker 2: would cover the money that is needed to feed the

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Speaker 2: million people who are SNAP beneficiaries. How much in real

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Speaker 2: dollars is that?

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Speaker 5: If you know, well, it's somewhere north of two hundred

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Speaker 5: million dollars as our estimate. Well, you know, Governor really

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Speaker 5: used a couple different numbers for this. At one point

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Speaker 5: she said two forty another two hundred ten million. But

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Speaker 5: in any case, it's, you know, about two and a

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Speaker 5: half percent of the current fund balance would cover about

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Speaker 5: a month for the folks that need those funds.

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Speaker 2: And I assume that if and when and the government

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Speaker 2: shut down ends, that we then Massachusetts could go back

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Speaker 2: and ask the Trump administration to pay us back for

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Speaker 2: the money that we covered our snap beneficiaries, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think I think we certainly should, Dan, if you

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Speaker 5: look at the the UH first. I really appreciate the

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Speaker 5: chance to be on here. And it's pointed out to

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Speaker 5: me that you made a similar suggestion on Friday, So

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Speaker 5: great minds thinkle like I guess right, No, I actually

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If you were on hold, but I played a little

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Speaker 2: bit of my my comments on Friday. Yeah I did.

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Speaker 2: It just seemed to me a no brainer. I remember

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Speaker 2: when the Rainy Day fund was a billion was a

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Speaker 2: billion dollars, and we thought that was a lot of money,

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Speaker 2: and then you worked with Charlie Baker and over time

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Speaker 2: you mentioned in your press release today it's now eight

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Speaker 2: point eight. I suspect it's probably closer to nine billion,

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Speaker 2: because the eight point eight number I've got I got

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Speaker 2: that out of the controller's office, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: a August number. But the stock market's been rolling for

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Speaker 2: the last two or three months, so there's probably more

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Speaker 2: than enough money there to cover many months, many months. Right.

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Speaker 5: It's a really good point, Dan, And this is a

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Speaker 5: great example of a rainy day in my view.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, I appreciate you pointed out that

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Speaker 5: it was a billion dollars at the start of the

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Speaker 5: Baker administration, and we grew it up to eight billion

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Speaker 5: dollars while returning three billion dollars to the taxpayer in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. So I would just say, first of all,

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Speaker 5: that's what sound fiscal management looks like. Growing raty day

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Speaker 5: fund April while returning three billion dollars to taxpayer. So

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Speaker 5: the funds are there in a situation where folks need

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Speaker 5: money for food. Strikes me as a pretty darn good

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Speaker 5: definition of a rainy day.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's really a rainy day for ready day for

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Speaker 2: those million people who on Saturday are going to go

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Speaker 2: to the cupboard and find the covert of spear. Why

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Speaker 2: do you think this governor, who obviously is very good

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Speaker 2: at finger pointing at the Trump administration, and in some

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Speaker 2: cases rightfully so she points at the Trump administration, but

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Speaker 2: in this one she could basically if her staff people

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Speaker 2: were smart, they would say to her, look, you can

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Speaker 2: can fund this with with ease. I you can embarrass

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration. Because if I don't know that the

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Speaker 2: president has the ability frankly to fund it, I don't

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Speaker 2: think he can do that, Okay. I heard yesterday that

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Speaker 2: someone had made a personal donation of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty million dollars to make sure every member of the

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Speaker 2: military at least gets some money this month. I don't

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Speaker 2: think the president physically, legally, constitutionally has the ability to

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Speaker 2: say we're going to fund snap benefits while the government

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Speaker 2: is shut down. But Governor Healy certainly has the moral

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she sure does. And Dan, I think you hit

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Speaker 7: We use.

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Speaker 5: premise that leaders should try to solve versus try to blame. More.

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand why she's not perceptive enough to

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Speaker 2: And it's an eleven point plan that I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: This is to me, it's a it's a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: You put it on paper. She should steal your plan,

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Speaker 5: Hope she does. I came up with the planet it

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Speaker 2: We played that quote just before you got on. And

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Speaker 2: it's all about. You know, the rainy Day funds. There's

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Speaker 2: And we are the so called commonwealth of Massachusetts and

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Speaker 2: they love to use the phrase commonwealth. Well, I have

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Speaker 2: all the empathy in the world the folks who who

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Speaker 2: You're a Republican, you're taking the position to get money

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Speaker 2: can be done administratively pretty easily. I don't want to

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Speaker 5: Well, that would make it happen. I mean you need

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Speaker 5: I want to execute on all eleven points of this plan,

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Speaker 5: about the people of Massachusetts. And you brought up something

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Speaker 5: really important, Dan, Where do the rainy day funds come

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Speaker 5: come from? It came from us, right, We've paid taxes

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Speaker 5: as you said, so let's use some of our money

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what really obsessed me. What really

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Speaker 2: And this is what really frustrates me and angers me.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we see the Democratic Party going off

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Speaker 2: We're not very far behind here in Massachusetts, where we're

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Speaker 2: going to allow people not to have food on November first,

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Speaker 5: Dan, I agree with all that. It is a moral

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Speaker 5: it is not ideological. Okay, it's not political. We're literally

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more well, miken Neelie, thank you

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Speaker 5: So too, and thank you Dan for advocating this point

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's it's it's a it's a thorough plan, and

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see some of the reporters up at

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, sir.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, we are going to take a break. We

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Speaker 2: You should not wait until Saturday, November first. But if

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Speaker 2: make it happen. It doesn't matter whose idea it was.

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Speaker 2: You should have thought of it beforehand. You need to

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Speaker 2: let's go to the phones here see what people have

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Speaker 2: And I am stunned that the governor's staff is not

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Speaker 7: Do you know what you said this? I was just

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Speaker 7: She's part of that group. Well, no matter.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me try to give you an honest

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Speaker 7: I think I think totally agree on that. And at

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Speaker 7: If I remember, when all the illegals are being sent

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Speaker 7: up here, didn't it cost us stay like a billion dollars?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, well significantly more, significantly more than that.

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Speaker 2: And and the argument that the governor at that time

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Speaker 2: made these are human beings. They may not be residents

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Speaker 2: of Massachusetts, but once they were in Massachusetts, we have

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Speaker 2: a responsibility to feed and house them, make sure that

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Speaker 2: children go to school. They got you know, cab rides

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Speaker 2: back and forth, the doctor's appointments, there were, there was

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Speaker 2: billions of dollars. Billions of dollars.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what beautiful? Was just one billion? Illegals matter more

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Speaker 7: to the.

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Speaker 2: By the way, No, no, it was a billion a year.

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Speaker 2: For two years at least it was. It was in

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Speaker 2: excessive two billion dollars.

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Speaker 7: Finding a billion dollars for them but for our and

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Speaker 7: not you know, thank me, I don't need it. But

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Speaker 7: I am just sick of this governor continue to play again.

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Speaker 7: If the best of my knowledge, Trump doesn't vote on

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Speaker 7: keeping the country open, this is right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And by the way, it so happens. That's the

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Speaker 2: Democrats who are voting against the Republicans are voting to

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Speaker 2: open it up, to have a continuing resolution, what they

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Speaker 2: call a clear resolution, so that everything would stay status quo,

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Speaker 2: and then they would have have seven weeks to argue

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Speaker 2: about it. The Democrats are saying, we are going to

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Speaker 2: vote against opening up the government until you agree in

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Speaker 2: advance of our negotiations or our conversations, you agree to

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Speaker 2: three or four of our major proposals.

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Speaker 7: They they already admit it to it. They're using families

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Speaker 7: and kids as leverage. How do you say that, good consciousness,

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Speaker 7: how do we even admit to that?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 2: I think probably down to you. They think most people

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Speaker 2: are stupid and then.

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Speaker 7: And the place.

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Speaker 2: But you're not stupid, and I'm not stupid, And I

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Speaker 2: hope that a lot of people can wake up here

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Speaker 2: a little bit and and understand we have the money

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Speaker 2: we have. We have eight point eight really it's close

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Speaker 2: to nine billion dollars in what they call the stabilization Fund,

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Speaker 2: it's called the Rainy Day Fund. Before Charlie Baker came in,

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Speaker 2: they would they thought a billion dollars would tie us

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Speaker 2: over if there was some sort of an economic problem.

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Speaker 2: We now have eight point eight or nine billion dollars

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Speaker 2: in the Rainy Day Fund. And the governor didn't think, hey,

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Speaker 2: we can take the pressure off these these these million

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Speaker 2: residents in Massachusetts who receive snap benefits. Why would she

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Speaker 2: not even immediately that should be here instinct. Take care

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Speaker 2: of the people, and then we'll worry about if if,

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Speaker 2: if our any day fund goes down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's a rainy day on Sunday on Saturday for these folks.

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Speaker 2: When they told, you know, I mean I go to

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Speaker 2: the store of the other day, I'm sure that these

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Speaker 2: folks need to go to the store the other day too.

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Speaker 2: They don't have a month's worth of food in their

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Speaker 2: refrigerator and in their cupboard to take care of their kids,

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Speaker 2: so to take care of people with disabilities. This is obscene.

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Speaker 2: It is absolutely obscene what this governor is doing.

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Speaker 7: You hit on it earlier. It's it's it's basically a

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Speaker 7: political that the Democrats, and I hate the generalize because

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Speaker 7: a good Democrats out there, they have to depend on deception,

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Speaker 7: they don't reality. And have you had I think you

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Speaker 7: said it though, but if you've asked Comany Heley to

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Speaker 7: come on there with you, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: We've had. We've had Governor Heally on before, Okay, And

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Speaker 2: she knows that she can come on here any night.

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Speaker 2: And if she wants to come on and explain to

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Speaker 2: me tomorrow night why why she chose not to use

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Speaker 2: some of the rainy day fund. She's more than welcome, She's.

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Speaker 7: More than when when I first heard you say when

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Speaker 7: the player at play that cut of her talking about Trump.

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Speaker 7: I can't use gadget terms I want to use. But

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Speaker 7: a liar was one of the words that popped into

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Speaker 7: my head, Like why are you yelling at Trump? It's

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Speaker 7: Congress had voting on this thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't teach civic they don't teach civics in

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Speaker 2: schools anymore. And you got to listen to a program

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Speaker 2: like this, I'm calling it. Look I've had more Healey

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Speaker 2: on this program. I was very impressed with mar Heey

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Speaker 2: when she ran for governor. I'm very disappointed in her governorship.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna be honest. That's I have to

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Speaker 2: tell you what I think.

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Speaker 7: And I'll end it with this because I know you

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Speaker 7: got other callers, but you said it for the word

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Speaker 7: I was always I was going to say. To be with,

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Speaker 7: she has to count just like if I remember when

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Speaker 7: Obama was president that I think was the MIT professor Obamacare.

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Speaker 7: He said it basically, Yeah, Americans are stupid. She has

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Speaker 7: to count on stupidity of Massachusetts others to vote for her. Again,

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Speaker 7: it's the only way she could win.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, the Democrats do very well in Massachusetts. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people vote blindly. And I'm not here to

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Speaker 2: advocate for any candidate at all. I thought that when

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Speaker 2: I saw knely eleven point plan today, it's a very influence.

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Speaker 2: By the way, let's hope that the Boston Globe does

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Speaker 2: an editorial and basically points out the obvious that the

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Speaker 2: Rainy Day Fund is used and is and amassed for

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Speaker 2: exactly a situation like this.

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Speaker 7: Well, thankfully for your show. Hopefully you get some people

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Speaker 7: to come out, whether it's her or not. But like

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Speaker 7: I said, you showed her true colors. You can't. She

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Speaker 7: can't reverse that. She should be done well all I

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Speaker 7: all I ask.

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Speaker 2: You to do is tell your friends about Night's side,

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Speaker 2: because we will. We will be honest with you. When

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Speaker 2: when Trump does something well, I'll tell you when he

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Speaker 2: when he when he does something dumb, I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: what my opinions are. Simple as that. Thanks so much, John,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Talk to you soon. Go take very quick break.

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of open lines. I have one

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Speaker 2: that John Jessica off six one seven, two, five four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty, and I have two at six one seven,

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Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. I want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: This is important if you're a resident of Massachusetts or

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Speaker 2: if you're outside of Massachusetts. This is what each state

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Speaker 2: should be doing. This is what our system of government

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Speaker 2: is intended to do. If the federal government is not

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Speaker 2: able to help people who are in crisis or who

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Speaker 2: need help, the states need to step in in the

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Speaker 2: short term. Eventually they can be they can get the

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Speaker 2: money back from the federal government, but they need to

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Speaker 2: attend to the problem. Now back on Nightside. Right after this,

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Speaker 2: you're on.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. Let me go to

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Speaker 2: Lori in Melrose. Hey, Laurie, welcome next to on Nightside.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Hi, I just want to say is I don't

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Speaker 9: give kudos to the federal government or the state. I

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Speaker 9: don't say I think federal government should have done something

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Speaker 9: since they haven't done it, and we're in this position

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Speaker 9: too for our people, and we have the money, as

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Speaker 9: you say, I mean it's a small percentage. You're not

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Speaker 9: to complete the fund at all. I think they can

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Speaker 9: do to be political, and he Lee could definitely easily say,

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Speaker 9: look at the government wouldn't take care of this, We're

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Speaker 9: going to come and save our people and shame on you.

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Speaker 2: Well, simply the right thing to do. I mean, she

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Speaker 2: could do it that way, and she doesn't even to

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Speaker 2: even have to be political. It would be obvious that

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Speaker 2: she's doing something. The federal government is. You know, they

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Speaker 2: got themselves tied up in Notts right now. They can

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Speaker 2: blame back and forth with the Republicans of the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested in that argument tonight. I'm interested on

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in a lot of these people in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: I pay taxes. I assume you pay taxes. That's my

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Speaker 2: tax money that is sitting in that. You know, obviously

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Speaker 2: it's not eight billion dollars of my tax money, but

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Speaker 2: it's my tax money and it's your tax money. And

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Speaker 2: I want some of that tax money used to take

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Speaker 2: care of these these one million people who are going

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Speaker 2: to be without food beginning on Saturday.

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Speaker 8: What is going around, you know, beg you for people

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Speaker 8: to get to bring food to the different sons and

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Speaker 8: get this and that when that money can be used

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Speaker 8: for some of the other things, you know, on a

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Speaker 8: daily basis. You know, the money's just sitting there, you know. No,

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Speaker 8: it's definitely the thing to do. I mean, and stealth

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Speaker 8: ktting so plilical and Democrat, Republican Trump and Eli who

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Speaker 8: cares about either one of them?

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Speaker 9: To kill you the truth? You know, I really don't.

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Speaker 9: I think the government said the government should have done it,

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Speaker 9: and they didn't do it, so we should do it.

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Speaker 9: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, Thank you, Laurie. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: your support. Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Good right, Okay, good night.

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Speaker 2: Let me go to Amanda in Dorchester. Amanda, you were

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Speaker 2: next on Nightside Welcome. Well, we lost Amanda. So if

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Speaker 2: Amanda wants to call back, what has happened there is

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Speaker 2: Amanda probably had had us on speakerphone. If she wants

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Speaker 2: to call back, Shane, we can put her to the

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Speaker 2: top of the list. Let me go to Terry down

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Speaker 2: on Cape Cord. Terry, you are next on Nightside. Welcome.

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Speaker 10: Hi, Dan, how you're doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting pretty angry tonight to be honest.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm going to take the temperature down for you

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Speaker 10: a bit. But I might get fired as Judge Terry tonight,

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Speaker 10: but that's okay. I'm gonna put it out there. I

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Speaker 10: do not believe for one second that our leadership in

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Speaker 10: Massachusetts is turning their back on anyone that needs a meal.

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Speaker 10: Now here's the thing, ye Number one, the Trump administration

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Speaker 10: is already threatened Governor Seely that if she pays for this,

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Speaker 10: they will not reimburse it. Well, I don't know if

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Speaker 10: that can be legal or not. But Governor Healy came

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Speaker 10: up with another plan because she smart. She got the

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Speaker 10: wonderful people from the United Way to step up. Because

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Speaker 10: that's outside of taxpayer money. She has encouraged anyone in

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Speaker 10: Massachusetts that has an extra dollar to give it immediately

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Speaker 10: to the United Way.

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Speaker 6: Unite Way is going to pay any very disagree, but Terry,

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Speaker 6: that's okay.

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Speaker 2: That that is a that's a cop out because the

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Speaker 2: money is there, eight point eight or nine bills.

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Speaker 6: I understand the dollars.

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Speaker 2: That is money has authority to use.

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Speaker 10: Go ahead, Andrew Joy Campbell is leading the group.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank god, that's.

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Speaker 10: The Massachusetts Fedral District Court tomorrow. Oh yeah, put a

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Speaker 10: hold on Trump from not paying.

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Speaker 2: I do believe that Underwady, I know a little bit

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Speaker 2: about the court system. Okay, that is that will result

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Speaker 2: in nothing. There won't be one kid who's going to

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Speaker 2: get a cheerio or one kid who's going to get

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Speaker 2: a ring ding or a glass of milk. And I

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Speaker 2: political talk is cheap. It's time for them to put

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Speaker 2: up some money and make this happen. Terry, you and

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Speaker 2: I are friends, you will always be friends. But we

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Speaker 2: disagree on this one. And I'm up against the eleven

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Speaker 2: o'clock news, and.

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Speaker 10: I gotta let you wait and see how this plays out.

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Speaker 2: When the federal judge comes in and orders Trump and

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Speaker 2: everybody gets their their food on time. I want you

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Speaker 2: to call me back and tell me how brilliant.

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Speaker 6: I won't be happy to do that when you find

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Speaker 6: out that people didn't get didn't get their their uh

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Speaker 6: their their stamp benefits, and there are people who are

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Speaker 6: really in trouble.

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Speaker 2: I want you to call back and tell me Daniel right.

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Speaker 10: Thanks, I'm going to take a few of them out

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Speaker 10: to lunch myself. I can't afford to do it, but

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Speaker 10: I will.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks very much, Terry, Thanks, bye bye, We'll be back.

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Speaker 2: If you agree with Terry, please continue the conversation. If

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Speaker 2: you agree with me, continue the conversation. This is insane.

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Speaker 2: This is insane. We're coming back on Night's side right

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Speaker 2: after the break. Speak up, folks,