Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great American, and welcome this Friday afternoon
Speaker 1: in the tri State. Of course, the Bengals are playing
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Lions, ten and a half point favorite,
Speaker 1: so Tony tells me they're going to lose by about
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty. That's a different story. Reds Baseball is
Speaker 1: now concluded. Yours, cheerly will be at the elder game tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm going asked by some of the elder faithful to
Speaker 1: show up, maybe speak to the team or speak to
Speaker 1: the cheerleaders one or the other before the big game
Speaker 1: in the pit. I will be there rather speak to
Speaker 1: the cheerleaders, I think, but nonetheless joining you and I
Speaker 1: now is Congressman Thomas Massey of Northern Kentucky. It took
Speaker 1: the place of Jeff what's his name. Jeff Davis was
Speaker 1: that guy's name about ten years ago and he's been
Speaker 1: in Congress for the last ten years. And Congressman Massey,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Congressman,
Speaker 1: before we get onto the lockdown shutdown and they shut
Speaker 1: down the government, etc. And also the files, the Epstein
Speaker 1: files that you're involved with, I want to ask a question.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for a question? Early on?
Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm ready for anything.
Speaker 3: Bill.
Speaker 1: You're like an eclectic guy. You remind me of Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1: You live off the grid, live by yourself, generate your
Speaker 1: own electricity, generate your own water systems. You're a scientist,
Speaker 1: you have patents on all this smart. In other words,
Speaker 1: you're a smart guy. You're almost autistic in a way
Speaker 1: because you're so smart. Why in the world are you
Speaker 1: in politics when you have these other skills? I don't
Speaker 1: get it. Why is Thomas Massey in politics?
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 4: I love fixing things that are broken, and this is
Speaker 4: the biggest thing that's broken in the world, and I
Speaker 4: still can't figure out how.
Speaker 3: To fix it.
Speaker 4: So the engineer in me is still trying to fix Congress.
Speaker 2: I guess that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Well, we're in the middle of this thing. There's going
Speaker 1: to be another vote pretty soon in the Senate, likely
Speaker 1: will go down. Can you explain to Tony Bender and
Speaker 1: Boone County what in the hell is happening? I watch
Speaker 1: all the morning shows, as I'm sure you do.
Speaker 3: Not.
Speaker 1: On one hand, the Democrats saying it's the Republicans, and
Speaker 1: the Republicans are saying the Democrats. The Democrats say, we
Speaker 1: don't want to fund healthcare for illegals. The Republicans saying, yes,
Speaker 1: you do. The Republicans say, we don't want to give
Speaker 1: billions of dollars to insurance companies on these ACAO Obamacare subsidies.
Speaker 1: The Democrats say, you're ruining health care for individuals who
Speaker 1: can't buy insulin. If you're a normal person watching the news,
Speaker 1: what do you get out of this? So can you,
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey? Can you tell us what the hell's going
Speaker 1: on in Washington just on this issue?
Speaker 2: Let me boil it down.
Speaker 4: First of all, ignore everything they're saying in the news, Okay,
Speaker 4: ignored what the Republicans in the House have passed and
Speaker 4: sent to the Senate was Joe Biden's budget last year. Okay,
Speaker 4: So I'm a little miffed that we've already surrendered this
Speaker 4: much that we've said. Okay, Trump got elected, but we're
Speaker 4: going to go with Joe Biden's budget again. That's what
Speaker 4: a continuing resolution does. It continues last year's budget every
Speaker 4: line item.
Speaker 2: So I didn't vote for it.
Speaker 4: There were two Republicans of the House that didn't vote
Speaker 4: for and one Republican.
Speaker 2: In the Senate who didn't vote for it. He's also
Speaker 2: from Kentucky.
Speaker 4: His name you can probably guess, wow, you are, like
Speaker 4: you're clairvoyant.
Speaker 1: I had on two days ago explaining why I had
Speaker 1: him on.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, then if your listeners weren't listening two days ago,
Speaker 4: I'll just update them.
Speaker 2: The Republican Continuing.
Speaker 4: Resolution, which is Joe Biden's budget, adds a trillion or
Speaker 4: two trillion dollars.
Speaker 2: To the deficit if we go with that.
Speaker 4: The Democrats offered an alternative in the Senate that adds
Speaker 4: three trillion to the deficit.
Speaker 2: Now, how does THEIRS add three.
Speaker 4: Trillion to the deficit, Well, it unrolls some of the
Speaker 4: cost cutting that happened in the Big Beautiful Bill on Medicaid.
Speaker 2: So there we all know there's some fraud in Medicaid.
Speaker 4: And there's a provision in the Big Beautiful Bill that
Speaker 4: passed earlier this year that says that illegals.
Speaker 2: Can't get medicaid.
Speaker 4: And so the Democrats actually they didn't target that one
Speaker 4: specific provision. They targeted everything, every cost saving measure in
Speaker 4: the Big Beautiful Bill. And so their version eliminates the
Speaker 4: provision that's supposed to stop the fraud for illegals.
Speaker 2: Now, do I know how many illegals we're getting healthcare?
Speaker 4: I have no idea, but and I suspect there were
Speaker 4: some in California and Massachusetts. And so if the Democrats
Speaker 4: were successful and in unrolling that effort to get rid
Speaker 4: of that fraud. Now, the state of California might not
Speaker 4: call it fraud, but if the Democrats are successful in
Speaker 4: doing that, then they would effectively be giving healthcare to
Speaker 4: illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's one person in the Senate that voted
Speaker 1: against the Trump position. There's two people in the House.
Speaker 1: You're one of the two. Is there something in the
Speaker 1: water or the air in Kentucky? Because the rest of
Speaker 1: the country says, you know what is putting another two
Speaker 1: trillion dollars? Said, what was the reason you voted no?
Speaker 1: When essentially you voted with in a sen Chuck Schumer
Speaker 1: and you voted with Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, but here's the thing. My vote hasn't changed,
Speaker 4: and neither is Rand Paul's. When this was Joe Biden's budget,
Speaker 4: we were no. And then when they did a continuing
Speaker 4: resolution on it again in last December, we were no.
Speaker 2: And there were some Republicans with US.
Speaker 4: But now and the Democrats were a yes, but now
Speaker 4: that it's Trump as president, the Democrats don't want Joe
Speaker 4: Biden's budget because they think they can force Republicans to
Speaker 4: spend more by doing a shutdown. It's this, here's the
Speaker 4: simple version, Rand Paul and I want to spend less
Speaker 4: than the Republicans want to spend up there, and the
Speaker 4: Democrats want to spend more than.
Speaker 2: The Republicans want to spend up there.
Speaker 3: And what the.
Speaker 4: Republicans up there want to spend is the exact same
Speaker 4: amount that Joe Biden spent it. And by the way,
Speaker 4: if that is Trump's position, it's not a good position.
Speaker 4: It's not physically conservative, and it's also going to tie
Speaker 4: his hand going forward. I know he's going to try
Speaker 4: to individually not send the money to these certain departments.
Speaker 2: The problem is the courts will tie him up.
Speaker 4: They'll say, well, listen, Congress voted for Joe's Biden's budget again,
Speaker 4: and you signed that budget.
Speaker 2: And that's going to be hard to beat in court.
Speaker 4: When he starts not you know, tries to say I'm
Speaker 4: not going to send the money to USAID or I'm
Speaker 4: not going to send the money to public you know, broadcastings,
Speaker 4: because that's the other thing that gets that's not being
Speaker 4: discussed in the news because because the Republicans don't want
Speaker 4: to discuss it and the Democrats don't either. All the
Speaker 4: Doge cuts are undone by the bill that the Republicans
Speaker 4: have put on the floor. Like the Doge cuts only
Speaker 4: last for the year that they were done. You would
Speaker 4: think if we thought they were wasteful enough that we
Speaker 4: took them out of the budget last year, we wouldn't
Speaker 4: put them back in the budget this year.
Speaker 2: But that's what Republicans are doing.
Speaker 1: If Republicans do it, we have no shot. What So
Speaker 1: how much pressure do you get from Speaker Johnson or
Speaker 1: from Donald Trump and his alcoholtes. You're the one Republican
Speaker 1: often on the other side of the administration, and your
Speaker 1: commercials are ubiquitous. I see them everywhere, and I said
Speaker 1: you off the air. I may be married to a woman,
Speaker 1: and maybe not my personal situation you might have, you
Speaker 1: might have somebody on the side. In a sense, I
Speaker 1: sense that I love Donald Trump, but I also love
Speaker 1: what you're doing because you're so independent and you think differently.
Speaker 1: And how much pressure are you under from Mike Johnson,
Speaker 1: the Republicans and Donald Trump, because most most Republicans would buckle,
Speaker 1: but Thomas Massey will not buckle.
Speaker 4: How much pressure, Well, they've they've intensified the pressure on
Speaker 4: me for this simple reason, not that they think they
Speaker 4: can change me. Look, they've spent two and a half
Speaker 4: million dollars of negative ads against me. What they want
Speaker 4: to do is whip me to keep the others in line.
Speaker 4: So if you're a member of the Freedom Caucus and
Speaker 4: this budget is against everything you ever campaigned on, but
Speaker 4: you're being pressured to vote for it, what you do
Speaker 4: is you look over there in northern Kentucky and you
Speaker 4: look at the ads being run against Congressman Massy, and
Speaker 4: you go, man, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know if I could take that kind of heat.
Speaker 4: So the reason they're spending all that money against me
Speaker 4: on these negative ads is to keep the other horses
Speaker 4: in the barn.
Speaker 2: And frankly, it's working on the other horses. It was
Speaker 2: never meant to work on me. They know they can't
Speaker 2: change me.
Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm being consistent, I'm the one
Speaker 4: up there who hasn't changed.
Speaker 1: To well, Alicia, you know, if you get defeated, which
Speaker 1: I think is quite unlikely. But nonetheless, will you go
Speaker 1: down on principle or will you ever collapse and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to keep spending two borrowing an additional two
Speaker 1: trillion dollars every year? Those are the physically conservative Republicans
Speaker 1: doing that. Well you if you lose your seat, are
Speaker 1: you good with that?
Speaker 4: Here's the one thing I want is whenever I leave Congress,
Speaker 4: whether I get beaten in an election or whether I retire,
Speaker 4: at some point, I want to sit on my porch
Speaker 4: here in Kentucky and have no regrets.
Speaker 2: Especially if everything's going to hell in a.
Speaker 4: Handbasket like I said it would, I want to be
Speaker 4: here and say I told them so. And I don't
Speaker 4: want to lose sleep over having sold out, because I'm
Speaker 4: not going to sell out. So that's, you know, that's
Speaker 4: the thing that I think about the most. Whether I
Speaker 4: win this cycle or not this cycle, I'm going to
Speaker 4: have no regrets. I am fighting for the people of
Speaker 4: northern Kentucky, and frankly, I think doing what the other
Speaker 4: congressmen promised their constituents they would do, which is to
Speaker 4: try to balance the freaking.
Speaker 1: Budget impossible if physically conservative Republicans run two trillion dollar
Speaker 1: deficits as far as the eye can see, and the
Speaker 1: Democrats want to spend three trillion dollars every year in
Speaker 1: deficit spending. We have no shot. How do you see
Speaker 1: this playing out in five or ten years when it's
Speaker 1: up to fifty trillion dollars or sixty trillion dollars? Kind
Speaker 1: of give me the future. I may be with you
Speaker 1: in three or four or five years, you'll be around them.
Speaker 1: I think I'll be. I'm not sure how will this
Speaker 1: play out within the next ten years.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I used to say Bill, I used to say this
Speaker 4: debt as we're saddling our grandkids with it.
Speaker 2: But I realized that's what they want me to say.
Speaker 4: I realized people are okay, thinking your grandkids will have
Speaker 4: the debt.
Speaker 2: What they will not tell you is we don't have to.
Speaker 4: Wait five or ten years to see what's going to
Speaker 4: happen when you run deficits this high.
Speaker 2: We're feeling it right now.
Speaker 4: The inflation is all caused because we are monetizing our debt.
Speaker 4: The high interest rates are caused because the government's the
Speaker 4: biggest borrower of money and they're pushing up the interest rates.
Speaker 4: The fact can't even lower the interest rates on your
Speaker 4: mortgage right now, maybe they could lower it to percent
Speaker 4: or something. They can't get it any lower than that,
Speaker 4: because it's the fair market, the free market.
Speaker 2: It's the four.
Speaker 4: Sovereign wealth funds that normally would buy our debt who
Speaker 4: aren't buying it anymore, who are saying that four and
Speaker 4: a half percent is not a good deal because you're
Speaker 4: going to pay me back in dollars, and we know
Speaker 4: you're going to deflate the dollar, you're going to devalue
Speaker 4: the dollars. So we're not even going to take four
Speaker 4: and a half percent. We want more than that. So
Speaker 4: just to sum it all up, the debt, we don't
Speaker 4: have to wait five or ten years to see what
Speaker 4: happens when you spend two trillion dollars you don't have.
Speaker 2: We're already feeling it.
Speaker 4: Your dollar's worth twenty percent less than it was four
Speaker 4: years ago. If you haven't got a twenty percent raise,
Speaker 4: you are making less money effectively than you were four
Speaker 4: years ago.
Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey I compare it to like a Indianapolis
Speaker 1: five hundred race car with a parachute on the back,
Speaker 1: which is all we're going slower and slower and slower
Speaker 1: because of the debt and the deficit. At some point
Speaker 1: it's going to hit the wall. And when when that
Speaker 1: thing hits the wall, and we're spending right now over
Speaker 1: a trillion dollars a year in interest on the national debt,
Speaker 1: a trillion dollars a year, at some point it's going
Speaker 1: to be two trillion dollars a year, in which case
Speaker 1: describe the American economy at that point.
Speaker 4: Well, here's here's what's going to break the camel's back
Speaker 4: is when we lose our reserve status as a currency
Speaker 4: because we can monetize our debt as we have done,
Speaker 4: printed trillions of dollars out of thin air, and it
Speaker 4: still works because we are diluting dollars that foreign countries hold.
Speaker 4: Like the world loves the dollar and they love to
Speaker 4: buy things with dollars, but to buy things with dollars,
Speaker 4: you've got to have dollars in your bank, so they
Speaker 4: hold it as their reserve currency to stabilize their own money.
Speaker 2: And we take three percent of it back.
Speaker 4: Every year, just like a credit card doing a transaction fee.
Speaker 4: We take three percent of it back because we're monetizing
Speaker 4: our debt and devaluing their holdings. This all collapses when
Speaker 4: we lose our reserve status and there are fewer and
Speaker 4: fewer countries using the dollar as their medium of exchange.
Speaker 4: And that's when it's going to hit the wall.
Speaker 2: And what will happen is you'll, if.
Speaker 4: It doesn't totally collapse, what will happen is we'll have
Speaker 4: to balance the budget that day.
Speaker 2: Nobody will loan this money.
Speaker 4: People will be hauling their paychecks to Kroger's in a
Speaker 4: wheelbarrow of cash. And because it'll just the inflation will
Speaker 4: hit us huge and interest rates will be high. We'll
Speaker 4: have stagflation like we saw, like we saw in the
Speaker 4: late seventies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, awful, And there's no way out of it. And
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. And we argue about should illegals
Speaker 1: get free medical care? That's the big issue. Hey, If
Speaker 1: we spend in twenty twenty six the same amount of
Speaker 1: money we spend in the year twenty twenty, we would
Speaker 1: have a balanced budget. In fact, we'd have a surplus.
Speaker 1: We cannot go back to levels of spending of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty correct.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 4: Thank you for pointing this out, because I'm sure Ran
Speaker 4: Paul said this and I forgot to say this what
Speaker 4: you people say, all right, you don't like the Republican plan,
Speaker 4: this two trillion dollar deficit, you don't like the Democrat plan,
Speaker 4: three trillion dollar deficit.
Speaker 2: What's your plan? Our plan is the penny plan.
Speaker 4: And it used to be the case when Rand and
Speaker 4: I first got elected a decade ago, if you would
Speaker 4: just cut everything one percent every year and five years,
Speaker 4: you could balance the budget.
Speaker 2: It is no longer the case.
Speaker 4: As brand may have told you, you have to cut
Speaker 4: six pennies out.
Speaker 2: Of every dollar for five years to.
Speaker 4: Get us back to those twenty twenty levels where we
Speaker 4: would be balanced.
Speaker 2: And that's our plan. We've offered various forms, amendments, we've
Speaker 2: we've offered it that way, we've offered.
Speaker 4: It as straight up bills, and it's just they aren't
Speaker 4: getting the message in Washington, d C. But the people
Speaker 4: back home, I'm telling you, you're filling it in the
Speaker 4: in the inflation and the interest rates. And the Republicans
Speaker 4: want to blame Democrats, and Democrats want to blame Republicans,
Speaker 4: but they're all to blame because they both want deficit spending.
Speaker 1: You know, when I have ound representatives of the two
Speaker 1: up administration, they say, the moneys from the tariffs, which
Speaker 1: are billion, hundreds of billions of dollars, and the moneies
Speaker 1: that are going to be extra income from all the
Speaker 1: income taxes paid by foreign entities moving their factories back
Speaker 1: to America are going to be such huge amounts of
Speaker 1: money we can pay off the debt and deficit. Do
Speaker 1: you believe that?
Speaker 4: No, because I'm talking to the factories in northern Kentucky
Speaker 4: and here's what you're telling me. They say, well, because
Speaker 4: Congress hasn't put these into law. Remember the tariffs on automobiles.
Speaker 4: There's there's tariffs on automobiles and trucks that did incentivize
Speaker 4: Toyota and Honda to put factories here.
Speaker 2: Those were passed by Congress, okay.
Speaker 4: Which meant that they could reasonably expect it would still
Speaker 4: be the same US policy in a few years, and
Speaker 4: so they did move resources to America and it did
Speaker 4: help some companies here.
Speaker 2: These particular tariffs they change every day.
Speaker 4: The Congress has never voted on them, right, And so
Speaker 4: what I'm hearing from the fact is they say, well,
Speaker 4: we don't know if this incentive to locate our stuff
Speaker 4: here is.
Speaker 2: Going to be permanent, but what we do know is
Speaker 2: if we.
Speaker 4: Go buy more stamping machines to stamp steel to make
Speaker 4: seats for the.
Speaker 2: Ford cars here in Kentucky.
Speaker 4: We got to buy those from Mexico, the machines that
Speaker 4: make the seats, and there's a fifty percent tariff. We're
Speaker 4: not expanding when you've put so the tariff is so
Speaker 4: high we can't even bring the equipment to the United
Speaker 4: States to expand.
Speaker 1: Well, you're making too much sense. But we're living on
Speaker 1: borrow time, which I've said for last twenty years. I
Speaker 1: said years ago, Thomas Massi that the two things that
Speaker 1: destroy America will be open southern borders. If we had
Speaker 1: Kamala Harrison the White House now, we'd have ten to
Speaker 1: twenty million more and we'd be out of business. Secondly,
Speaker 1: as an accumulated national debt, which is thirty seven trillion,
Speaker 1: and the Republican plan in five years is they have
Speaker 1: that at fifty trillion and the Democratic plan is at
Speaker 1: sixty trillion. Either way, we can service the debt. When
Speaker 1: we're not the reserve currency anymore, We're going to need
Speaker 1: a wheelbarrow to buy a loaf of bread. And the
Speaker 1: day is coming and I guess we're powerless to stop it.
Speaker 1: You're one of four hundred and thirty five. Rampaul is
Speaker 1: one of one hundred, and if we can't do it
Speaker 1: with Trump, guess what we can never do it? Would
Speaker 1: you agree?
Speaker 2: I would agree.
Speaker 4: This is once in a lifetime opportunity. We've got the House,
Speaker 4: the Senate. I know it's hard to get sixty votes
Speaker 4: in the Senate, but you can do reconciliation with fifty
Speaker 4: one votes.
Speaker 2: And we've got the White House.
Speaker 4: We may lose the House here obviously, and thankfully Trump.
Speaker 2: I agree. By the way you said before you somebody
Speaker 2: you know loves me and loves Trump.
Speaker 4: It's possible to love us vote and he's going to
Speaker 4: be the president for another three years and three months.
Speaker 4: The problem is we're probably going to lose this unique
Speaker 4: opportunity in time. It's very likely we use the House,
Speaker 4: lose the House of Representatives majority soon in the next midterm,
Speaker 4: and we will miss the chance.
Speaker 2: To make the stuff permanent.
Speaker 4: The President could still do executive orders and nibble around
Speaker 4: the edges, but it will all be temporary because they'll
Speaker 4: undo that when the White House changes.
Speaker 1: Well, I find myself a Trump supporter and a Massy supporter,
Speaker 1: which is kind of odd, but we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Well good. I don't think it's a I don't think
Speaker 2: it's an odds.
Speaker 4: I campaigned on the same thing he campaigned on. I'm
Speaker 4: just holding her feet to the fire up there.
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, you're a great American. Thanks for coming on
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And Congressman, thank you and keep
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill. We'll do god Bosh.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more news next and coming up later
Speaker 1: is Leland Vitdert who has autism and how parents should
Speaker 1: deal with it. Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW by forty
Speaker 1: three minutes after the hour, Billy Cunningham, the Great America.
Speaker 1: Let's set up the rest of today's big show. At
Speaker 1: one o'clock today, Leland Vitdert will be here and the
Speaker 1: book is to my right. It's his book called Born Lucky.
Speaker 1: His nickname is Lucky and unbeknownst to him until he
Speaker 1: was about eighteen years old, unbeknownst to me, Leland Vintert
Speaker 1: has autism and he's had autism, of course since the
Speaker 1: day he was born. And this book details his journey
Speaker 1: from an autistic kid that suffered vicious bullying and schools,
Speaker 1: went to different schools in different times. Got through it
Speaker 1: all because of his mom and dad. Mainly his father
Speaker 1: took control of the situation and Leland Vinterton is now
Speaker 1: a prime news anchor every Monday through Friday night on
Speaker 1: News Nation. Before that, he spent about fifteen years on
Speaker 1: Fox reporting from the Middle East. Knocked me over with
Speaker 1: a feather. I did not know until recently that he
Speaker 1: has autism and he's living with it. He's a high
Speaker 1: attaining individual, shall we say, But the hell he went
Speaker 1: through and what his parents had to do to get
Speaker 1: him through is an incredible story. So if you have
Speaker 1: a family member, if you're autistic, if you know as
Speaker 1: a grandparents, a mom and dad, uncle, Awne, how do
Speaker 1: you handle this? Please circulate the idea that after one
Speaker 1: oh five today, my guest is going to be Leland
Speaker 1: Vitner to talk about autism and how he overcame and
Speaker 1: still overcomes autism. Recently married and I met him years
Speaker 1: ago through Fox and we just happened to find ourselves
Speaker 1: in Naples, Ford together over the winter about seven eight
Speaker 1: months ago, and he invited me to lunch at a
Speaker 1: certain club in town. I went there, I met his mom,
Speaker 1: met his dad, met his sister, and met at that
Speaker 1: point his fiance Penny and I were there and had
Speaker 1: a great little lunch an hour and a half and left.
Speaker 1: And I told him about a week ago when we
Speaker 1: discussed coming on this Friday afternoon, that I wish I
Speaker 1: had known what your father had done for you and
Speaker 1: what your mom had done for you. That's unique in
Speaker 1: all the world. And he said, well, at that point,
Speaker 1: my family wasn't ready to disgorge what I went through
Speaker 1: to overcome to a large extent autistic behaviors. He didn't
Speaker 1: speak till he was after three years old, had profound difficulties,
Speaker 1: including a so called lazy eye. He tested in some
Speaker 1: ways off the charts and the other he tested fifty
Speaker 1: IQ points. And it was all there in the nineteen
Speaker 1: eighties when he was raised, and the nineteen eighties autism
Speaker 1: isn't wasn't then what autism is today. One in thirty one,
Speaker 1: one in thirty one born today, or autistic. And there's
Speaker 1: got to be a reason it's now been politicized, and
Speaker 1: that when the Trumpet administration wants to seek a cause
Speaker 1: and a cure and treatment, they're being criticized by the
Speaker 1: mainstream media and the Democratic Party. And that's said because
Speaker 1: I can't imagine why there's so many increases in autism
Speaker 1: and other attention deficit disorders now that didn't exist for decades.
Speaker 1: There's a reason behind it. I don't know what it is, Tyland,
Speaker 1: Oh hell, I don't know. Is it aspirn I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is there microwaves? I don't know. Is it plastics? I
Speaker 1: don't know. They're trying to find out, and when they
Speaker 1: try to find out, the Democratic Party criticizes Donald Trump
Speaker 1: about anything. And then we find out the last few
Speaker 1: days that the Biden administration targeted conservatives, including Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 1: for surveillance. That's the surveillance state put out by the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party because there was no president because of his
Speaker 1: mental problems, and whoever was in charge of the agencies
Speaker 1: under Joe Biden simply went after individuals they could go
Speaker 1: after because they could. And now this is coming to
Speaker 1: light and it never hits the mainstream media. That's why
Speaker 1: you have to listen to talk radio. Secondly, Brian Combs
Speaker 1: had this story about State of Ohio versus Devon Markham
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. You might recall a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: there was a team of very popular team killed in
Speaker 1: OTR about two weeks ago, and Devon Markham has now
Speaker 1: been charged with that murder of that boy. You recall
Speaker 1: how upset family members were. He was well known in
Speaker 1: the area. He's a teenager who was shot down like
Speaker 1: a dog by Devon Markham. And so some research has
Speaker 1: been done on Devon Markham. By the way, he's now
Speaker 1: eighteen years old and he's in jail finally on a
Speaker 1: million dollar bomb bond. You might recall all summer long
Speaker 1: police have been saying over time. You might recall the
Speaker 1: Sheriff's department came on Charmaine McGuffey normally doesn't patrol downtown
Speaker 1: Cincinnati issued over three hundred citations over a thirty day
Speaker 1: period of individuals otherwise would not have been cited. That
Speaker 1: violent crime is soaring in the Central Business District and
Speaker 1: OTR it so at least forty percent, might be more
Speaker 1: than that after all the recent shootings. Of course, there
Speaker 1: was another two of more last night, and the boys
Speaker 1: shot here were twelve years old and fifteen, so we're
Speaker 1: talking about a sixth grader and a freshman. Likely not
Speaker 1: in school Thursday night, shot on East mcmickon near Grand Park.
Speaker 1: They were about twenty five shots fired. The two are wounded.
Speaker 1: They're likely to live, were told by Shari Pulolo They're
Speaker 1: likely to live. Twelve years old running around victimized by someone.
Speaker 1: Don't know who did it yet they found a car
Speaker 1: nearby and wanted Hills connected to the shooting investigation and
Speaker 1: the blood running in the streets of Cincinnati as the
Speaker 1: mayor is cutting ribbons and the vice Mayor lemon Kearney
Speaker 1: saying we don't need any more help here, get rid
Speaker 1: of the highway patrol that never really started. But the
Speaker 1: story of Devon Markham is common. You might recall yesterday
Speaker 1: I had on Judge Josh Berkowitz who sounded the alarm.
Speaker 1: You know how difficult it is for a sitting judge
Speaker 1: in Hamlet the county to stand up and say I
Speaker 1: will speak about what's happening inside our courtrooms. And Judge
Speaker 1: Burkowitch yesterday spoke and said about half the judges here
Speaker 1: come out of the restorative justice move the reparations movement,
Speaker 1: and as a consequence, we don't deal with people now
Speaker 1: based upon their behavior, which is you know that the
Speaker 1: goal is the behavior we deal with race and gender
Speaker 1: issues is if an eighteen year old boy a murderer
Speaker 1: should not be dealt with harshly because of his race
Speaker 1: and I guess his gender being a black mail. So
Speaker 1: the restorative justice movement says that if you can't don't
Speaker 1: have the money to post a bond, you should get
Speaker 1: out anyway. It's not fair if you're a criminal and
Speaker 1: don't have discernible assets, it can't go to a bail
Speaker 1: bondsman like Shropshire and post up ten percent then they
Speaker 1: post a bond for you. It's not fair that these
Speaker 1: gang bangers and murderers and drug druggers and the burglars
Speaker 1: and those who are breaking the car should have a
Speaker 1: bond set at all, because restorative justice says, if you
Speaker 1: don't have the money to post a bond, you should
Speaker 1: get out. Just sign your name in the state of
Speaker 1: Ohio versus Devon Markham. He was the one charging charged
Speaker 1: with killing the murdering of the sixteen year old two
Speaker 1: weeks ago in an OTR the history of this kid.
Speaker 1: We're learning now that he was on probation at the
Speaker 1: time of felony gun charges. When a new case got
Speaker 1: before Judge Allison Hathaway, and that name is well known
Speaker 1: here in the newsroom. She worked here for many years,
Speaker 1: Alison Hathaway, along with Rachel and bridget Nally. She was
Speaker 1: Alison Ali Hathaway and yours truly issued. You have to
Speaker 1: get three recommendations to go to law school, and I
Speaker 1: was one of the three. I said. I related to
Speaker 1: the fact that she cared about the news, cared about
Speaker 1: the stories, et cetera. She went to law school, got
Speaker 1: into the public Defender's office, and now she's sitting on
Speaker 1: Common Police Court as a judge. And Judge Josh Berker,
Speaker 1: which talked about these judges almost victimized by the law
Speaker 1: school in colleges that they attend. They're indoctrinated with a
Speaker 1: fullilosophy of restorative justice and reparations and no cash bonds
Speaker 1: get people out of jail. We have four hundred beds
Speaker 1: available in Hamny County Jail to accept individuals who can't
Speaker 1: get out because they have used guns to commit offenses,
Speaker 1: but the judges give them no cash bonds. One of
Speaker 1: the persons in their teenage years was Devon Markham, now
Speaker 1: charge of murdering a sixteen year old two weeks ago
Speaker 1: over the ruine. He was on probation by Judge Hathaway.
Speaker 1: My friend and I visited with her in her courtroom
Speaker 1: about three months ago to talk with her find a
Speaker 1: fine woman, and she put them on probation on a
Speaker 1: previous gun charge. Well, why would this eighteen year old
Speaker 1: boy walk around with guns? Do you think is to
Speaker 1: commit crime? In this particular case, Judge Allison Hathaway, sitting
Speaker 1: as I speak in Common Police Court, ordered mister Markham
Speaker 1: to get a job. That's so unique. How about work
Speaker 1: a job. You have to enroll in the behavioral modification
Speaker 1: program approved by the Probation Apartment and you have to
Speaker 1: regularly report to your PO, your probation officer. So she said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're a bum, you're a derelict. You're well known to
Speaker 1: the juvenile court system where Judge Kerry Bloom and juvenile
Speaker 1: court always because the restorative justice put these kids on probation,
Speaker 1: said okay, we're going to give you another chance. Because
Speaker 1: of the order of Judge Allison Hathaway. My friend that
Speaker 1: the defendant, Devon Marken was available to kill that sixteen
Speaker 1: year old boy named TJ. Bell near Grand Park and
Speaker 1: over the rine fourteen days ago. So while on probation,
Speaker 1: he did not get a job. Well, on probation, he
Speaker 1: did not enroll in behavior modification, and he did not
Speaker 1: report to his probation officer. So what happened was a probation,
Speaker 1: a PV issued, no probation violation, No PO said the
Speaker 1: hell with it, nothing happens anyway, Well, still continue that
Speaker 1: life of crime. He murders TJ.
Speaker 3: Bell.
Speaker 1: And the person who allowed this to happen in a
Speaker 1: sense was Judge Allison Hathaway, my friend who came out
Speaker 1: of the restorative justice movement, who's now a judge, and
Speaker 1: she'll be on the bench for decades to come unless
Speaker 1: she's voted out of office, because she thinks, if you're
Speaker 1: a black male, you get two, three, four or five
Speaker 1: chances to shoot people until you're locked up. Now he's
Speaker 1: under a one million dollar cash bond. Now he'll be
Speaker 1: dealt with. But TJ. Bell is dead. What do you
Speaker 1: say to his family? So the judges of the Democrat
Speaker 1: Liberal Party who believe in quote restorative justice bring about
Speaker 1: the circumstances that hurt their own community. These individuals aren't
Speaker 1: running around Westchester or Boone County. They're a OTR the
Speaker 1: central Business District price Ill and they're killing people. They're
Speaker 1: breaking into cars, breaking into homes, making life miserable, and
Speaker 1: liberal Democratic judge in him in the county allow.
Speaker 6: It to occur. Should you get fired up by this? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Will you? I don't think so. The history is not
Speaker 1: good in this regard. And I give great credit to
Speaker 1: Judge Josh Burker, which who stood up yesterday and said
Speaker 1: I can't take it anymore. I'm going to report to
Speaker 1: the American people what is happening in our urban court system.
Speaker 1: And it's bad. It's hurting the individuals that these judges represent.
Speaker 1: Let's continue after one o'clock today we'll be Leland Viddert
Speaker 1: and we have more scheduled coming up. And I continue
Speaker 1: to like judge I call her ally Alison Hathaway. She's
Speaker 1: well intended. She's almost victimized by the colleges and the
Speaker 1: law schools that she went through. Believe in this left
Speaker 1: wing crap that results in the killing of those who
Speaker 1: vote for her. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred ww
Speaker 1: my Bill Cunningham, the Great America and one of the
Speaker 1: persons in big time media I've had the pleasure of
Speaker 1: meeting is Leland Vitters spent years and years with at
Speaker 1: Fox News in the Middle East and then came back
Speaker 1: News Nation has been an anchor there for several years
Speaker 1: and the evening Monday through Friday. And I did not know.
Speaker 1: I had the good fortune of meeting Leland Vivertert and
Speaker 1: his family in Naples about a year or two ago
Speaker 1: and his new bride and now they're married, and I thought,
Speaker 1: what a wonderful family. Had no idea that Leland Viverdert
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with autism at a rather young age, but
Speaker 1: to not discover it himself to it was eighteen or
Speaker 1: nineteen years old. He just turned forty three years old,
Speaker 1: a relatively young man. And the book is out which
Speaker 1: is fabulous. It is called Born Lucky, which I read
Speaker 1: last week, is two times sell out on Amazon. It's
Speaker 1: in his third printing. And if you have a friend,
Speaker 1: a family member, a grandson, a daughter, or anyone in
Speaker 1: conducted in your life that has a disability, this is
Speaker 1: the book that you must read, called Born Lucky. And
Speaker 1: Leland's nickname is Lucky. And just looking at the cover
Speaker 1: of the book with his dad and Leland when he
Speaker 1: was about I guess about a year old. It's just
Speaker 1: a wonderful picture of love between a father and a son.
Speaker 1: And Leland Vedert, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And normally, Leland, we deal with politics, what's happening with
Speaker 1: the doings in Washington politically, who's up, who's down? But
Speaker 1: I want to spend most of this time with you
Speaker 1: on the book Born Lucky, and I want to jump ahead,
Speaker 1: which is not the normal thing for me. On page
Speaker 1: one sixty six, I made a note and uh, it
Speaker 1: says on it this is when you're in the Middle
Speaker 1: East in Jerusalem.
Speaker 3: Quote.
Speaker 1: Then came the real shock. A month and a half
Speaker 1: into my time in Israel, my dad had a heart attack.
Speaker 1: Because it was Jam Kippor, the country had effectively been
Speaker 1: shut down. I couldn't get a flight home. I was stuck, helpless,
Speaker 1: relying on second hand updates from mom. I finally saw
Speaker 1: my dad briefly in November and Florida when I took
Speaker 1: my first home. Lead was there at that point jumping ahead,
Speaker 1: a complete sense on your part of failing in a
Speaker 1: sense to be the son that you should have been
Speaker 1: your father because of your job.
Speaker 5: Wow, we went deep quick Bill. So yeah, I think
Speaker 5: when I was there in Israel, realizing that I couldn't
Speaker 5: be there for him the way he had been there
Speaker 5: for me for fifteen years every day when I got
Speaker 5: home from school, putting me back together, it was really
Speaker 5: difficult to sit there in Jerusalem and not know and
Speaker 5: not be able to get home. So absolutely, and I
Speaker 5: think what you're picking up on in why I felt
Speaker 5: that way is the absolute devotion that Dad had to me,
Speaker 5: to the point that he didn't tell anybody about my diagnosis.
Speaker 5: He didn't tell me until I was in my twenties.
Speaker 5: He didn't tell any therapist, he didn't tell any principally,
Speaker 5: he didn't tell any teacher. He went on a one
Speaker 5: man mission, was supported unbelievably by my mother to adapt
Speaker 5: me to the world rather than the world to me.
Speaker 5: And I think there's so many parents who are told
Speaker 5: right now, look, you know, we're going to give your
Speaker 5: kid all these accommodations. It's going to make LIFs great,
Speaker 5: it's going to make life easier, on and on and on.
Speaker 5: And what Dad said was that if Lucky doesn't understand
Speaker 5: how to be in the real world now, he's not
Speaker 5: going to understand later. So this was his driving force,
Speaker 5: was to adapt me to the world and rather than
Speaker 5: try to take the adversity away, hold my hand through
Speaker 5: that adversity.
Speaker 1: Did you feel you should have known this when you
Speaker 1: were fifteen? And the book relays terrible bullying that you
Speaker 1: went through. You didn't fit in, it was awkward, you
Speaker 1: were beat upon, it was terrible in school. Your father
Speaker 1: would at the end of the day, you'd go home
Speaker 1: and he had to put you back together. Did you
Speaker 1: feel your dad should have told you earlier that you
Speaker 1: had autism?
Speaker 5: You know, Bill know, And here's why. This whole idea
Speaker 5: from my father was that I don't want anyone to
Speaker 5: define you by a diagnosis, and I don't want you
Speaker 5: to define yourself by the diagnosis, and I don't want
Speaker 5: you to use it as an excuse ever.
Speaker 7: And I think that was a.
Speaker 5: Very powerful, powerful feeling that my dad instilled in me. So,
Speaker 5: you know, I am just so grateful to him. And
Speaker 5: I think this book, I think born Lucky, and the
Speaker 5: reason it's getting the response it's getting online and on
Speaker 5: social media, and as you pointed out, sold out twice
Speaker 5: on Amazon. I don't want any of your listeners to
Speaker 5: get in a car accident. But when you get to
Speaker 5: wherever you're going, go to Amazon and order it now
Speaker 5: before it sells out again. If you want to read
Speaker 5: it is because this is hope for every parent of
Speaker 5: a kid who's having a hard time. It doesn't matter
Speaker 5: if it's autism or ADHD or anxiety or difficulties with bullying,
Speaker 5: whatever it is. This is proof of what parents can
Speaker 5: do for their kid to really help them grow, develop,
Speaker 5: be confident, understand how they can take on the world,
Speaker 5: get through the bullying, all of the things that are
Speaker 5: challenges that the experts don't ever tell parents.
Speaker 7: This is what you can do.
Speaker 1: Growing up. You say, there were little signs that I
Speaker 1: was different. I felt I was different. I didn't speak
Speaker 1: until I was three years old, not a word. At
Speaker 1: some point a teacher said to your mom and dad, quote,
Speaker 1: you need to have Lucky evaluated. Did your parents have
Speaker 1: an inkling? But we're talking about the mid to late
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Autism then isn't as aware as autism today
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. How did that information hit your
Speaker 1: mom and dad. You were probably too young to realize
Speaker 1: that you have to get to Lucky that you evaluated.
Speaker 1: How did your mom and dad really?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was five years old. They took me to
Speaker 5: one of those little medical office buildings and sent me
Speaker 5: off to the testing with some woman. And they're sitting there,
Speaker 5: you know, a little waiting room with the old magazines
Speaker 5: and the stale coffee. And the woman comes back, brings
Speaker 5: my parents into a conference room and says, look, there
Speaker 5: is a lot going on in his head and we
Speaker 5: don't really understand it. So major behavioral issues. You know,
Speaker 5: if a kid would touch me in the lunchline, I'd
Speaker 5: turn around and slug them, and couldn't wear certain clothes
Speaker 5: because the sensory issues and all sort of the classic
Speaker 5: signs of what we now know to be autism didn't
Speaker 5: speak till I was three. It's completely unable to understand
Speaker 5: any kind of social cues or social emotions, human interaction.
Speaker 5: And then there were big learning disabilities. Right, So I
Speaker 5: had an IQ test, two halves of an IQ test.
Speaker 5: A twenty point spread between the two halves is a
Speaker 5: learning disability. I had a seventy point spread. They'd never
Speaker 5: seen anything like it. And if you could measure my
Speaker 5: emotional intelligence by EQ, it would have been near freezing.
Speaker 5: So this is when the woman says to my dad,
Speaker 5: we don't really understand what's going on inside his head
Speaker 5: and there's not much you can do about it. And
Speaker 5: my dad goes, is there anything we can do anything?
Speaker 5: And she said no, generally not. So this is the
Speaker 5: story of what mom and dad did and what dad
Speaker 5: did after that. And you know, Bill, you made a
Speaker 5: great point. You and I had lunch together down in Naples.
Speaker 5: My dad was there, and you said, you know, you
Speaker 5: wish you'd known he didn't tell anybody, and he's been
Speaker 5: very reluctant to tell this story. When we wrote More
Speaker 5: and Lucky, I was interviewing him, and every story we
Speaker 5: got to he would say, do we really want to
Speaker 5: tell that story? And I'd say, try to talk them
Speaker 5: through it and why it was important. And finally I
Speaker 5: made a deal with my said book. I said, we
Speaker 5: can't do this.
Speaker 7: You're going to be completely candid.
Speaker 5: And open with me. I'm going to write the manuscript
Speaker 5: and if you don't like it, I won't turn it in.
Speaker 7: Okay, And I don't really I didn't really have.
Speaker 5: A plan if he said no, But anyway, I gave
Speaker 5: him a manuscript and he read it and he goes,
Speaker 5: I don't know. This is really way too personal. You know,
Speaker 5: these are these are the worst parts of your life.
Speaker 5: Now you never told anybody you didn't go to therapy.
Speaker 5: Now you're gonna go to therapy on national television, right, Hey, Yeah,
Speaker 5: let me ask it this way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, please go ahead.
Speaker 5: If if in that waiting room when I was diagnosed,
Speaker 5: that little office, rather than the woman saying there's nothing
Speaker 5: you could do, she handed you born Lucky, she handed
Speaker 5: you this book. What would you have done? He said, Well,
Speaker 5: I would have read it every week, he said. I
Speaker 5: can't tell you how much I would have paid for
Speaker 5: that book, because it would have given me hope that
Speaker 5: I can make a real difference in your life.
Speaker 1: Did your mom and dad feel as if they failed
Speaker 1: you by producing a child with this profound disability? Did
Speaker 1: they feel like, what did we do wrong?
Speaker 5: It's a great question. I don't think they ever felt
Speaker 5: that way. I think certainly now with the debate around autism,
Speaker 5: it's so important for parents to know it's not their fault.
Speaker 5: And that's really, I think, such an important message and
Speaker 5: one that really needs to be said over and over
Speaker 5: and over again. No parent would wish this on their child.
Speaker 5: No parent wants their child to have a hard time.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think it's so wonderful now that
Speaker 5: we are beginning to have an honest conversation about the
Speaker 5: cause of autism and why, as you pointed out, when
Speaker 5: I was diagnosed with what we now know to be autism,
Speaker 5: it was one in a thousand or one in fifteen
Speaker 5: hundred kids, and now it's one in thirty one, three
Speaker 5: times as for boys higher in poor minority community, and
Speaker 5: finally we're having an honest conversation about it.
Speaker 1: George Weyll and A four which says Leland's story is
Speaker 1: one of adventure, exploration, and discovery first and foremost from
Speaker 1: beginning to nats about the mountain moving power of parental love.
Speaker 1: I can only think of the millions and millions of
Speaker 1: kids that are now in their mid forties as you are,
Speaker 1: and going through the bullying in school they're going through
Speaker 1: right now, that go through a living hell because they
Speaker 1: did not have your parents. They had normal parents that said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're going to get him some help
Speaker 1: and the ups and downs of life. And I can't imagine,
Speaker 1: I mean lucky that is you, Leland Vitter coming home
Speaker 1: from school, beaten, bloodied, in a sense, psychologically, sometimes physically,
Speaker 1: and your mom and dad puts you back together, then
Speaker 1: send you back to school at some point when when
Speaker 1: you were ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, you probably had the
Speaker 1: ability to say, no, I'm not going back to school.
Speaker 1: I can't take it anymore. You can you relate to
Speaker 1: an autistic kid right now, who's thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. It
Speaker 1: doesn't want to conform live, it doesn't want to confront life.
Speaker 5: I did, I didn't a lot of times, and my
Speaker 5: dad would sit there, you know, Bill one of the
Speaker 5: Stories and Born Lucky. I'm in eighth grade art class
Speaker 5: and there's art, art on the walls.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 5: It's none of this are going to be Picasso, right,
Speaker 5: But this art teacher didn't like me very much, and
Speaker 5: he's sit in front of the entire class. You know,
Speaker 5: if I was, if my age the line from him
Speaker 5: was in front of the entire class, if my dog
Speaker 5: was as ugly as you vitter, I would shave its
Speaker 5: rear end and make it walk backwards for the entire class. Ooh,
Speaker 5: imagine what that does to a kid. So I walked
Speaker 5: home that night and my dad was waiting for me.
Speaker 5: At the end of the driveway as he always was,
Speaker 5: and he says, you know what happened today? And I said,
Speaker 5: I was just you know, humiliated, and just you know,
Speaker 5: this is awful. And he would sit with me for
Speaker 5: a couple of hours every night, listening to me, letting
Speaker 5: me take out my frustrations and my anger and my difficulty.
Speaker 5: And he would then leave my room as I had
Speaker 5: cried and yelled and everything else, and he would go
Speaker 5: downstairs and oftentimes, and we now know this as we
Speaker 5: wrote the book, or I know it now, he would
Speaker 5: sit there in the living room by himself and cry
Speaker 5: in the dark. And the next morning, no, he would
Speaker 5: get me up and he would take me back to school,
Speaker 5: because he said, the only way for you to get
Speaker 5: through this and to know that you can operate in
Speaker 5: the real world is to face this adversity head on
Speaker 5: and to learn how to adapt and overcome. Now, what
Speaker 5: he didn't say to me is that middle school is
Speaker 5: great training for a Washington newsroom.
Speaker 7: But it is.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's go back to this. So a teacher said
Speaker 1: to you, leyland Vetter, you were so ugly. If I
Speaker 1: had a dog, I would shave his butt and make
Speaker 1: the dog walk backwards. That had to be. He didn't say, bud,
Speaker 1: but yes, yes, devastating, devastating, And your father said, did
Speaker 1: their father confront that teacher? I can't imagine the rage
Speaker 1: your dad and your mom, Carol must have felt when
Speaker 1: a teacher says that to you. Did did they confront
Speaker 1: him or not?
Speaker 2: Or her?
Speaker 1: The school?
Speaker 5: The school did and he ended up apologizing didn't didn't
Speaker 5: do me a lot of good, because you know, it
Speaker 5: was clear and really put it in the book was
Speaker 5: it was illustrative of that. It wasn't just the kids,
Speaker 5: it was the adults, right. It was the principal who
Speaker 5: called my parents in two weeks into my time in
Speaker 5: this new school. I'd already been taken out of two
Speaker 5: schools because things had been so bad, and they called
Speaker 5: my parents in and sit them down and said, you
Speaker 5: know what, everybody at this school thinks Lucky's really weird.
Speaker 5: And then the woman followed up and frankly, I do too.
Speaker 5: So two arrows through my parents' hearts, and it was
Speaker 5: illustrative of both how different I was right as a kid,
Speaker 5: and also what they were facing and how isolated my
Speaker 5: parents felt, and obviously how isolated and alone so many
Speaker 5: families feel. You know, Bill, the reason Born Lucky's doing
Speaker 5: so well, if you want to call it that there's
Speaker 5: so much interest, isn't because of me. It is my story,
Speaker 5: but it's not about me. It's about giving this hope
Speaker 5: to parents who for so long have been told there's
Speaker 5: no hope and things are hopeless.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you owe your mom and dad?
Speaker 5: Well, I think the answer is a lot, obviously. And
Speaker 5: the reason Bill, one of them that I wanted to
Speaker 5: write this book now is to say thank you, because
Speaker 5: you know, my dad's getting older. He's seventy nine, I
Speaker 5: think seventy eight, and it was only fair I thought
Speaker 5: to let him know that I understood the sacrifices made
Speaker 5: and just how grateful I am to him, and how
Speaker 5: grateful I am to my mom. You know, Dad wrote
Speaker 5: the afterward, which I think is the best part.
Speaker 7: The second best part is George Will's forward.
Speaker 5: And I'm the two hundred and forty pages in the middle.
Speaker 5: But Dad wrote the afterward, and if he rightly pays,
Speaker 5: you know, homage to my mother and says she is
Speaker 5: the real hero here for keeping not only Lucky together,
Speaker 5: but him. My dad threw all this, you know, this
Speaker 5: was a whole of family affair, and we talk about
Speaker 5: how hard it is for siblings in this position. Or
Speaker 5: my little sister who was in kindergarten. You read this, Bill,
Speaker 5: I would in fifth grade walk to her classroom and
Speaker 5: pick her up, and we both went to the same
Speaker 5: school and then walk home through the woods and we
Speaker 5: would get to the back of the pe fields at
Speaker 5: this school. And she said that her first memory of
Speaker 5: her brother, she was in kindergarten with me every time,
Speaker 5: getting to those woods and starting to cry and walking
Speaker 5: her home and her holding my hand. So it shows
Speaker 5: the cruelty of growing up in what it's like. And
Speaker 5: I think Bill, you picked up on this is that
Speaker 5: we made a conscious decision in the book. We didn't
Speaker 5: use the names of anybody who was mean to me, right,
Speaker 5: and we use the names of everybody who is nice,
Speaker 5: because it's a lesson not just to parents but to
Speaker 5: everybody of what a difference people can make in the
Speaker 5: life of a kid who's having a hard time.
Speaker 1: Leyland Vetter, how do you process the meanderings of the
Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services Trumpet administration to find
Speaker 1: the causes of autism? Since you have it, do you
Speaker 1: have more interest Do you think it is Tyler and all,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: You don't know because you're a news.
Speaker 5: Will yeah, here you go.
Speaker 7: Okay, guess what, Bill, I don't have.
Speaker 5: A medical degree. I'm not a doctor, and I am
Speaker 5: not a scientist, and I have the chemistry degrees to
Speaker 5: prove chemistry grades to prove it.
Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm not going.
Speaker 5: To talk about dosing of tailano, and I shouldn't because
Speaker 5: I don't have an expertise in it. What I will say,
Speaker 5: and what I think is so important to say, is
Speaker 5: thank god we are having this conversation now, and it
Speaker 5: really frosts me that there are people who would rather
Speaker 5: score political points than help solve the scientific question of
Speaker 5: our time. And I have said this before, which is you.
Speaker 5: I really want to say to these people, do you
Speaker 5: really hate Trump? Would you really rather score political points
Speaker 5: on Trump more than you love our kids? Because I
Speaker 5: grew up with autism, I know what it's like. I
Speaker 5: know the hell that millions of kids and millions of
Speaker 5: families are going through. And if we can find an
Speaker 5: answer to this problem, it will be a wonderful and
Speaker 5: miraculous thing.
Speaker 1: One out of every thirty one. And I want to
Speaker 1: end this by referencing on page two forty two what
Speaker 1: your dad's advice to others would be. I really do
Speaker 1: not know what was ahead, who could help, or if
Speaker 1: the verdict would be just give up.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: The purpose of this book is to offer hope, real hope.
Speaker 1: Here are the principles I wrote down for myself when
Speaker 1: Lucky that You was diagnosed. One, have no expectations of
Speaker 1: the future. Two, under no circumstances, let your child feel
Speaker 1: they've ever disappointed you, ever under any circumstances. Three you
Speaker 1: are the depository of their hurt, their frustration, and their humiliation.
Speaker 1: And four tell them that they have the right stuff
Speaker 1: for life. That the currency of high school, etc. Is
Speaker 1: not the currency of life. There are many more years
Speaker 1: after six years of junior high and high school. And
Speaker 1: I read it last week. I'm going to save it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to, with your permission, play this interview in
Speaker 1: a few months. Nothing's going to change by between now
Speaker 1: and then. But the book is out. It's called Born Lucky.
Speaker 1: The picture on the cover is enough to get one
Speaker 1: to read it and to pass it around. Leland VETTERTI
Speaker 1: watch many nights on News Nation, and it's amazing your life.
Speaker 1: The most amazing part of you as your mom and dad.
Speaker 1: But Leland, we got to run once again. We'll do
Speaker 1: it again. And God bless you and thank you. Give
Speaker 1: a big hug to your dad and a kiss for
Speaker 1: your mother for me, because they're very very special people.
Speaker 1: There will be in the arms of God Almighty they will. Bill,
Speaker 1: Thank you, God bless you. Leland Fitter News Nation, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a story. Get the book Born Lucky, Bill Cunningham
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Speaker 8: What's clear is that the Democrats' actions account to an
Speaker 8: intentional sabotage of our country and our people by shutting
Speaker 8: down our government. This madness must end. President Trump and
Speaker 8: Republicans are calling on Democrats to reopen the government immediately
Speaker 8: on behalf of the American public.
Speaker 5: All we need are five.
Speaker 8: Democrat senators to do the right thing and to stop
Speaker 8: this shutdown. Call your Democrat senator and tell them to
Speaker 8: vote yes to reopen the government.
Speaker 1: He hello, by it and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting segment.
Speaker 1: I have a report here from the family.
Speaker 7: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I often reference a man named Gordon Veterino. Yes, and
Speaker 1: he was my first coach of great significance, legendary sportsman yes,
Speaker 1: and I always reference Gordon Veterino when it comes to
Speaker 1: the fundamentals of football, basketball, or baseball. Correct. And he's
Speaker 1: going to turn ninety years old on Tuesday of next week. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want you to clear out one thirty pm Tuesday,
Speaker 1: October the seventh. He'll be here. I am told by
Speaker 1: his entourage that Gordon Veterino, who I often reference, will
Speaker 1: be here Tuesday at one thirty to celebrate his ninetieth Thursday.
Speaker 1: How about that? So write that down right? You got?
Speaker 1: How about that? Will?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Secondly, yeah, I put this on my ex account. I
Speaker 1: want to get your reaction. Okay, so far I've gotten
Speaker 1: about twenty five thousand. This is what I said last
Speaker 1: night late. In a way, the Reds don't have a
Speaker 1: settled position player other than at the catcher position. But
Speaker 1: Clain needs to earn his position at second, Ellie needs
Speaker 1: to switch to the outfield, Hayes at third over Sal,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. First base? Who knows freedom and center?
Speaker 1: So the Reds trade Green? So next year, who's the
Speaker 1: Reds first baseman? My point? How about second base? I
Speaker 1: guess Matt McLean and South Stewart will be there. Who's it? Short.
Speaker 1: If Ellie's out in the outfield, who's it short?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: You got you know Edwin Warrios. They got more shortstops
Speaker 6: than who's at third at anybody well could have You
Speaker 6: could be keyth Brian Hayes and South Stewart.
Speaker 1: All right, but you don't know. I don't know who's
Speaker 1: in left.
Speaker 6: The only guy that knows is probably Terry Francona.
Speaker 1: Not as funny as my name.
Speaker 5: Sebastian didn't.
Speaker 6: Yes, on the Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: He we have who's on first? What's on second? I
Speaker 1: don't know he's on third. That's what I want to
Speaker 1: find out. I want you to tell you name fellows name.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you who's.
Speaker 3: On first, what's on second?
Speaker 2: I don't know it's on third?
Speaker 1: You know the fellow's names?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 1: Well, then who's playing first?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean the fellow's name on first base? The fellow
Speaker 1: player first base for Saint Louis? Who the guy on
Speaker 1: first base?
Speaker 3: Who is on first?
Speaker 1: His names?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 1: What he asking me for? I'm not asking you.
Speaker 3: I ain't telling you who is on first.
Speaker 1: I'm asking you who's on first. That's the man's name,
Speaker 1: that's whose name?
Speaker 2: Yes, we didn't tell.
Speaker 1: Me who the guy on first?
Speaker 5: The first base?
Speaker 3: Who is on first?
Speaker 1: How you got a first basement on first?
Speaker 3: Seven? Rate?
Speaker 5: Then who's playing first?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Who's on first? That's what I'm saying. Who's in sal?
Speaker 1: I don't know? It's the year? No his names? Who
Speaker 1: and McClain? Did he earn second base this year? That's
Speaker 1: what's his name? How about short stop? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Fifty fifty errors in two seasons? Who's on I think
Speaker 1: Sounds at third? Or Hayes? Who's in left?
Speaker 5: He?
Speaker 3: Steve?
Speaker 1: Who's in left? Anybody who's in center? Anything? Maybe free
Speaker 1: Swarmer center.
Speaker 6: And Alonso at first? Maybe they're going to really open
Speaker 6: the books?
Speaker 1: Who's in right?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Marte? Playoff?
Speaker 6: So well, you're gonna have Freedol and center? I think
Speaker 6: he gotta I said, and Catcher.
Speaker 1: Other than that, well, then it's up for g who
Speaker 1: I don't know and so what I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's out in left field? Well, who's
Speaker 1: gonna make this decisions? He's at first? Who's at first?
Speaker 3: He?
Speaker 1: Who? Who? Who is it first? I don't know? That's
Speaker 1: why is gonna be here to tell me what the
Speaker 1: hell is going on? In this place, and so the.
Speaker 6: Rest of that guy off team, that guy's the bench coach, that.
Speaker 1: They're a playoff team. And we can't name who's the starter. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's in first, center, and catcher Stevenson and Trevino I guess,
Speaker 1: But then pitchers, I don't know. I don't know who's pitching.
Speaker 6: Well, you got Green, Lodolo's trade them both Burns, Rett,
Speaker 6: Rhett Louder. You got singer at six of them right there?
Speaker 1: Why not try the gun? You get something for Green?
Speaker 1: The bullpens. Bullpen's not bad. I'm saying, you know, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad in the sense Tito is here because he
Speaker 1: knows when the bodies.
Speaker 6: Are very correct, and he'll be fine. Don't don't worry.
Speaker 6: He'll figure settle team. Is it unsettled?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I think he's a third
Speaker 1: he will. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6: He's the third catcher. I think I'm in the state
Speaker 6: of shock. No, he's in the center field.
Speaker 1: Who's in right? Marte's the right field who's at first?
Speaker 1: He doesn't start because he's not hitting the i'bout you
Speaker 1: in the playoff game, you don't start Marte and he's
Speaker 1: supposedly the right fielder. He doesn't start. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to tell you.
Speaker 6: I think he's the bench coach. Will heave the student
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Speaker 1: I've been asked to address them all or football team.
Speaker 1: You wait a minute.
Speaker 6: I don't worst Barret Cohen when you need him, because
Speaker 6: I don't know they want to do that. Because look
Speaker 6: what happened to Madera. You did when Madera played the
Speaker 6: Park last week?
Speaker 1: Well, I got Johnny Crapp was thirty five nothing, twenty
Speaker 1: four to nothing. Wasn't that close enough? Wasn't that bad?
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Speaker 6: High School football tonight. Willie, what about dr Park? I'll
Speaker 6: action across the Tri State High school football tonight at six,
Speaker 6: ESPN fifteen thirty, Fox Sports thirteen sixty that rolls into
Speaker 6: the game between Louisville Trinity and Saint X.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Louisville Trinity. You're gonna have Saint.
Speaker 6: X also tonight as Moeller and Elder. As you said,
Speaker 6: I'm taking the Mighty Minimo. Lakota West at Cole Range,
Speaker 6: I'm taking Tom Bolden Middletown hosting Lakota East. I'm taking
Speaker 6: Kyle Schwarber, Marymont v the Park. I'm taking the park.
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Speaker 1: I got a text here from Pete Whittie. I'm begging
Speaker 1: you to speak to Malor before the game. Pete witting
Speaker 1: if you already picking Moeler, I'm picking them. I'm picking
Speaker 1: them to you, they're gonna take the Panthers down. Let's
Speaker 1: see in the pit.
Speaker 6: Uh Dante Corleona according to reports, Well, he's gonna play
Speaker 6: tomorrow for U. See Wis is probably big defensive, defensive
Speaker 6: lively to us the last two.
Speaker 1: Games with injury.
Speaker 6: It's like Aaron Donald, Shamar Stewart is out Sunday for
Speaker 6: the Bengals ankle, Noah Fan is back Bengals, and Charlie
Speaker 6: Jones with an achilles, he's questionable. What about Joe Burrow,
Speaker 6: He's not gonna Well, he's not gonna be there. I
Speaker 6: guess maybe he's maybe he's gonna be there. He ought
Speaker 6: to be on the sidelines. Do you have any hope?
Speaker 1: Baseball?
Speaker 6: The best of five Division series begins tomorrow, four games,
Speaker 6: Cubs and Brewers at two.
Speaker 1: I like the Cubs.
Speaker 6: Yankees in Toronto at four. I don't like either team.
Speaker 6: Dodgers and Phillies at six thirty. I'll take the Phillies
Speaker 6: because of Kyle Schwarber. Tigers at the Mariners at eight thirty.
Speaker 6: I don't like the Mariners.
Speaker 3: Who cares?
Speaker 6: I don't like Detroit, okay, and also Willy coming up
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Speaker 1: Many times as a famous restaurant right there on the left,
Speaker 1: that's correct. What is that name of that ring? Willi's
Speaker 1: of Hidden Valley? I don't think so. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. But segment, these are difficult times. The
Speaker 1: Reds have big decisions to make, and I believe the
Speaker 1: Reds can be better next year.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 1: Do you believe? I believe? Do you believe?
Speaker 6: As long as I believe, as long as they got
Speaker 6: you know who they're managing, I'm gonna believe.
Speaker 1: I believe that we will win. I believe that we
Speaker 1: will win. Do you agree or not?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Now, who's it first? Who's at second? No, he's at first,
Speaker 6: Who's at third? He's at first, who's at short, He's
Speaker 6: at first?
Speaker 2: And left?
Speaker 1: Who's in right?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 6: You can't play who to ample? Everywhere? We have crises everywhere.
Speaker 3: Segment.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to open up the money bass?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber, what hit one hundred and ten home run.
Speaker 6: I tell you one thing, if they him in that
Speaker 6: band box, they would get Kyle Schwarber and the panda
Speaker 6: and he stays healthy.
Speaker 1: Now, what what will the cost?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 6: The Reds might have to move it and get into
Speaker 6: a new stadium Casteline. He's got a status. You know
Speaker 6: what they're gonna do. They're going to move to pay Corps,
Speaker 6: re arrange it in a sixty four thousand fans a night.
Speaker 1: I think we're in a crisis segment. But what if
Speaker 1: they get the polar Bear? Now, what about Judge Allison
Speaker 1: Hathaway Ali freeing to kill again? An arm robber, eighteen
Speaker 1: year old boy.
Speaker 6: Something's got to be done, Willie? In this town, something,
Speaker 6: something's got to be done. And what about the Diddy?
Speaker 1: The Diddy? No, uh, no verdict? I say four years,
Speaker 1: write that down, write that down, four years. Okay, say
Speaker 1: get me out, exoo your will.
Speaker 6: You and honor a beautiful day here in the tri State.
Speaker 6: We leave you with the immortal words of the stood.
Speaker 5: At some point, the foolishness has got to stop.
Speaker 1: He's talking to the city of Cincinnati, who refused to
Speaker 1: accept his help. On news radio seven hundred w L
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American all of high school football
Speaker 1: happening tonight. Yours truly will be at the pit to
Speaker 1: celebrate the defeat of my elder at the HANSO. Muller
Speaker 1: High School. That'll be in the pit. But until then,
Speaker 1: important matters are attending. You might recall we had a
Speaker 1: news story on this. I mentioned this about an hour
Speaker 1: or so that eighteen year old Devon Markham, eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: is charged with murdering a sixteen year old about two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. The kid's name that was murdered is TJ. Bill.
Speaker 1: And previous to that, mister Markham, eighteen years old, had
Speaker 1: numerous felony convictions through juvenile court, had committed another offense
Speaker 1: as an adult put on probation by my friend, Judge
Speaker 1: Allison Hathaway, Ali formerly of our newsroom, put him on
Speaker 1: probation on condition that this defendant, how about these ideas
Speaker 1: get a job, secondly enrolling a behavior modification program, and
Speaker 1: thirdly report to your po Guess what he did none
Speaker 1: of it. Didn't get a job, didn't report to his
Speaker 1: probation officer, didn't have behavior modification. If he did, it
Speaker 1: resulted in the murder of a sixteen year old. Now
Speaker 1: he's charged again and again and again. Joining you and
Speaker 1: I now is Steve Gooden, who's been on city council
Speaker 1: and attorney in Cincinnati. And Steve Gooden, welcome again to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham showing Steve, how do you react to
Speaker 1: this most recent outrage out of common Police Court. I
Speaker 1: would add that Judge Josh Berkele, which joined me yesterday,
Speaker 1: a sitting judge been there ten years, who rang the
Speaker 1: bell saying something's wrong down here in the courthouse. Half
Speaker 1: the judges are more will not put people in jail
Speaker 1: because of restorative justice, because of white supremacy, white privilege,
Speaker 1: all this crap. And now this TJ. Bell is dead
Speaker 1: because Judge Hathaway ordered him to do certain things. He
Speaker 1: didn't do it and didn't get violated, and now another
Speaker 1: kid is dead. On top of what happened last night.
Speaker 1: Last night, as you may know, a twelve and fifteen
Speaker 1: year old were shot at Grand Park. There's a question
Speaker 1: in there, Summer answering.
Speaker 3: Well, the answer is that we need desperate change. And
Speaker 3: thank you for calling attention to these issues, because this
Speaker 3: is kind of the news. A lot of people seem
Speaker 3: to lose right now, no one wants to talk about
Speaker 3: this in the city, at city Hall or in the courthouse.
Speaker 3: I mean it's happening in both places. City Hall has
Speaker 3: underfunded the police department in a serial manner for over
Speaker 3: a dozen years, and we're seeing it in the lack
Speaker 3: of walk and patrols and the lack of basic enforcement.
Speaker 3: And then you've got the courthouse where there are judges
Speaker 3: who are acting clearly out of some sort of progressive
Speaker 3: ideology and not looking at these cases based upon the facts.
Speaker 3: And the end result is a community that is not safe.
Speaker 3: And I'm very aware of the Grand Park situation. Me
Speaker 3: and Reverend Peterson Mingo have been down there many many times.
Speaker 3: He's part of that God Squad group. He goes down
Speaker 3: there when there were shootings. There have been over eighteen
Speaker 3: homicides there in the past five years in that one
Speaker 3: park alone in northern over the Rhine. It is a tragedy,
Speaker 3: and these are preventable tragedies in the old days, back
Speaker 3: you know, when I was in the prosecutor's office and
Speaker 3: we had a different kind of judge there at common
Speaker 3: sense judges Democrats and Republicans alike. By they note people
Speaker 3: got locked up if they were caught with guns, they
Speaker 3: were held on high bonds, they were not given probation.
Speaker 3: They didn't wait around for them to shoot someone. If
Speaker 3: you're running around with drugs and guns, you need to
Speaker 3: be taken off the streets and not all this handwringing
Speaker 3: and all this talk of restorative justice and etc. So
Speaker 3: we know what needs to happen. But our mayor handpicked
Speaker 3: this bench. He handpicked the city council at Lands right
Speaker 3: at his doorstep.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, well, the other thing is having recognized.
Speaker 1: I was told the mayor had some bad pulling about
Speaker 1: a month ago. Maybe Corey Bowman is going to have
Speaker 1: an impact. Maybe you're going to have impact. Chris Metheran,
Speaker 1: Lendon Matthews may have an impact. So he decided to reluctantly,
Speaker 1: reluctantly accept the offer of the governor to do certain things.
Speaker 1: And so you know, Mike and I have been friends
Speaker 1: for a long time, and he told me on and
Speaker 1: off the air that I'm kind of surprised the Mayor's
Speaker 1: not asked for our help. Finally, after some bad pulling,
Speaker 1: the mayor got a hold of the governor. Mike came down.
Speaker 1: You had the FBI was there the atf was there,
Speaker 1: the Marshall Service was there. One council member was there,
Speaker 1: Mika Owens, you had, the prosecutor's office was there, The
Speaker 1: sheriff was there. Every one agreed, Okay, the adults are
Speaker 1: coming in. We're gonna do this, do that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have the Highwood Patrol is gonna be here. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be out in front of bars and restaurants. We can
Speaker 1: pick out those with guns going into it, liquorstale and
Speaker 1: all this circus act went on. We found out a
Speaker 1: week or two later that the memorandum of understanding dealt
Speaker 1: with two shifts a month, and now last week got
Speaker 1: checked with the police. So far there's been zero, zero,
Speaker 1: highwad patrol involvement. None. It was all nothing. It was
Speaker 1: sound and fury signified nothing, as Shakespeare would say. And
Speaker 1: so it's that way because the so called President pro
Speaker 1: tem of the City Council of Victoria Parks, the Vice
Speaker 1: Mayor lemon Kearney and Scottie Johnson, the Controls Council completely
Speaker 1: said we don't want cops here. It's a bad look
Speaker 1: to have highway patrolmen here, as if we can't do
Speaker 1: our job, and so as we sit here now in
Speaker 1: the first week in October, early voting is starting, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we have once again this rash
Speaker 1: of shootings forty percent increase. The ones getting killed are
Speaker 1: are the children of Democratic voters? Do they understand that
Speaker 1: their policies caused the death of their own community?
Speaker 3: You know what? This is the rare year where I
Speaker 3: think it's breaking through. Okay, I just spent last night
Speaker 3: down at the bond Hill Community Council and I, you know,
Speaker 3: I blatantly and openly said, hey, this. You know a
Speaker 3: lot of these problems lay at the Mayor's feet. The
Speaker 3: city is more violent, it is more lawless, it is
Speaker 3: it is more dangerous, It is tougher to live in
Speaker 3: than it was four years ago. And that goes right
Speaker 3: to him. And I got a round of applause there
Speaker 3: in bond Hill, and that was pretty much. I'm a
Speaker 3: jaw on all African American audience. I do think people
Speaker 3: are tired of it. You know, I'm a middle aged
Speaker 3: white guy and a grumpy one at that, and I
Speaker 3: but I think people are want honesty. They know these
Speaker 3: statistics they're hearing from city Hall aren't true. The Mayor's
Speaker 3: credibility right now is absolutely zero. And we the surest
Speaker 3: sign we know we're breaking through is he's shooting at
Speaker 3: people like me directly. You know. We shoot a statement
Speaker 3: this week saying I was unqualified to be on city
Speaker 3: Council and lack compassion and things of that nature, which
Speaker 3: as I said that I am, I actually posted. I
Speaker 3: put out a release about that this morning, say I
Speaker 3: accept his non endorsement without qualification with great pride. I
Speaker 3: accept it. It's all politics, it's all optics, it's all
Speaker 3: playing with the numbers. Anybody who's on these streets knows
Speaker 3: what's happening. The homeless situations out of control. Our streets
Speaker 3: are a mess, and the violence of occurs at nights
Speaker 3: at night in many of these neighborhoods. It's beyond the
Speaker 3: police's ability to deal with that. They don't have the
Speaker 3: personnel to do anything with it right now, and it's
Speaker 3: just an absolute tragedy. People are losing their lives, and
Speaker 3: I think that is breaking through. I mean, it's kind
Speaker 3: of a you know, it's like the old Grauto mark saying,
Speaker 3: who are going to believe me? Or your lying eyes?
Speaker 3: People know that what they're hearing from city Hall and
Speaker 3: what they're hearing from the courts isn't true. And that
Speaker 3: is the moment, and that is the problem that he's
Speaker 3: got to deal with right now. Is that nobody that
Speaker 3: I know of in who were involved at any kind
Speaker 3: of street level action here in the city, the community
Speaker 3: volunteers and many councils. Nobody believes a word he says
Speaker 3: anymore about the violence. They see it with their own eyes.
Speaker 1: You know what's troublesome for me, Scottie Johnson has been
Speaker 1: a cop for like twenty five years. Or throw in
Speaker 1: lemon Kearney, who went to Harvard Law School. Of course,
Speaker 1: Victoria Parks who said Holly wanted to get beat down,
Speaker 1: there's a different category. She's not running again. But they're
Speaker 1: telling the mayor that if you invite in the Highway
Speaker 1: Patrol and the FBI, the ATF, god knows who else
Speaker 1: to crack down on crime, it makes us look bad
Speaker 1: and the black community doesn't want it. Lemon Kearney speaks
Speaker 1: for the black community. She's the mayor in waiting. She's
Speaker 1: waiting for ft F Pirival to move on to do
Speaker 1: something else, which surely he will soon. That she wants
Speaker 1: to be the mayor. And so until lemon Kearney, Victoria Parks,
Speaker 1: until Scottie Johnson actually say you know, we need help,
Speaker 1: nothing's going to occur. And I would point out that
Speaker 1: there's twenty percent fewer police in Cincinnati than we need,
Speaker 1: then we should have. Well, when police are down twenty percent,
Speaker 1: crime better be down at least twenty percent, because that
Speaker 1: means cops aren't arresting people because cops don't exist to
Speaker 1: arrest them. You know what I'm saying. It's rather a
Speaker 1: circuitoust argument that because the crime is down, we don't
Speaker 1: need police. Well, the reason crime is down, then criminals
Speaker 1: are not being arrested because cops don't exist to arrest them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I know exactly what you're saying. And actually my anger
Speaker 3: is that some of the different council numbers even worse.
Speaker 3: We have what I would call the white council members,
Speaker 3: the Mark Jefferies, the Seth Walsh is those people who
Speaker 3: Jeff krammerting. They go to these events and they talk
Speaker 3: tough on crime, and then they go to city Hall
Speaker 3: and they go along with all this stuff. They sit
Speaker 3: on their hands and the stuff they have spent upwards
Speaker 3: of ten million dollars over the last two years on
Speaker 3: so called violence production efforts that have included things like
Speaker 3: urban gardening, dance lessons, three sandwiches at bus stops. Actually
Speaker 3: tried to get one of those the other day at
Speaker 3: Government Square. They wouldn't give it to me. My other
Speaker 3: favorite is kayaks on the Mill Creek. Like ten million dollars,
Speaker 3: the amount of police overtime they could have hired. They
Speaker 3: could have hired half a recruit class with that money
Speaker 3: and including benefits over the course of the last two years.
Speaker 3: Not serious people, what they're doing. I mean the money
Speaker 3: they do have to put it these efforts, they just
Speaker 3: waste on these weird pet projects. Anyone who wants to
Speaker 3: kayak should be able to get their own kayak. It's
Speaker 3: just beside the point. It's disgraceful and I don't and
Speaker 3: it's just they're not listening to what the community is saying,
Speaker 3: white or black. They're just not listening. You know.
Speaker 1: I saved this story about a year ago lemon Kearney.
Speaker 1: It was voted in the council by a nine to
Speaker 1: zero vote. It's called the Ambassador program, and this story
Speaker 1: says that if you're an arm robber. If you commit crime,
Speaker 1: they have money for you. They will pay you about
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a month on condition that you don't
Speaker 1: commit any more crime, and they'll give you they'll give
Speaker 1: you vouchers to travel around the country to look elsewhere,
Speaker 1: to see what's happening in other parts of other parts
Speaker 1: of the world. This is called the Criminals Criminals Behave.
Speaker 1: City Council is poised to put three hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: toward a gun violent reduction program that will have active
Speaker 1: firearm offenders get away from the street life. We'll give
Speaker 1: you a monthly stipend, travel, job, training, therapy and more
Speaker 1: as part of a sixty five million dollar spending plan,
Speaker 1: including dance lessons and kayaking. And so, if you commit crime,
Speaker 1: we're going to pay you not to commit more crime
Speaker 1: and teach you how to paddle on the Little Miami River.
Speaker 1: Now there's a good use of our money. Steve Gooden,
Speaker 1: it's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Well, I think they actually owe me several hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: I guess because I've never robbed anybody at gunpoint, I've
Speaker 3: gotten nothing for that. I mean, the whole thing is
Speaker 3: just ludicrous. We know what a violence reduction, you know,
Speaker 3: plant looks like it's called like actually, you know, staffing
Speaker 3: the police and actually having judges right who put people
Speaker 3: away who have guns. I mean, that's the only thing
Speaker 3: that works. I mean, if you look at Cleveland, I
Speaker 3: never thought I would be citing Cleveland for anything. They
Speaker 3: had a thirty percent reduction in homicides this year because
Speaker 3: they increased their police force by almost thirty three percent
Speaker 3: over the last two terms. Okay, I mean it's just
Speaker 3: I mean you can see it. I mean, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I was in Columbus the other day for an higher
Speaker 3: state game. There are police everywhere. There isn't a visible
Speaker 3: police presence. They have staffed their police department. I think.
Speaker 3: Guess what, Columbus is growing? Okay, they are actually growing
Speaker 3: their population. I mean you have to understand, these are
Speaker 3: both democratic cities. But if you're going to have any
Speaker 3: kind of a city, you have to have policing, you
Speaker 3: have to have basic order and law and order on
Speaker 3: your streets. And also just I mean, not twenty minutes ago,
Speaker 3: I was walking back from getting my hair cut at
Speaker 3: the wonderful Salzano Brothers on Fourth Street. If I'm me,
Speaker 3: note and I was walking down the street and there
Speaker 3: was a homeless guy there on Fourth Street by the
Speaker 3: atrim two were leieving himself on the side of the building.
Speaker 3: A woman came and grabbed him and accused him of
Speaker 3: stealing his cocaine. She grabbed him, he jumped mid stream.
Speaker 3: I had to jump back to avoid getting urine on
Speaker 3: my shoes. I told him he needed to put that
Speaker 3: little thing away, and then the other homeless people came
Speaker 3: and gathered around me. For a moment, I thought, my god,
Speaker 3: I'm going to get into a fight. Here on Fourth
Speaker 3: Street in the middle of the day was some coked
Speaker 3: up homeless people, no police officers anywhere to be seen,
Speaker 3: and I was just this is the middle of a workday,
Speaker 3: on a Friday afternoon, in the middle of our business district.
Speaker 3: That's the kind of stuff that's going on, and we
Speaker 3: are not We don't have the police to actually walk
Speaker 3: around twenty years ago, to be officers walking around all
Speaker 3: over downtown.
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago, Cousty, a friend of mine, active and
Speaker 1: big time law firm, had four other lawyers, three men
Speaker 1: and a woman who came to Jeff Ruby Steakhouse and
Speaker 1: it was like eight o'clock eight fifteen. They said, let's
Speaker 1: walk down to the river. They won take They were
Speaker 1: from Saint Louis. They walked down to the river, the
Speaker 1: four of them. They were dressed nicely. They walked back.
Speaker 1: They were jumped by six kids. And the sad part
Speaker 1: about this was there was nothing stolen. They had some
Speaker 1: cash on them, some credit cards. They simply got beat
Speaker 1: up for the hell of it. And they beat up
Speaker 1: these especially the three men who tried to defend the
Speaker 1: female lawyer, and then one went to the hospital. Three
Speaker 1: did not, and that's a typical occurrence, and they hit
Speaker 1: nine to one one they got to the hospital. There
Speaker 1: was no police report filed because three of them went
Speaker 1: to the hospital with the one that was really hurt
Speaker 1: and they spent the night in the hospital and then
Speaker 1: went back to Saint Louis. So you have homeless pissing
Speaker 1: on the sides of building, arguments about cocaine. You have
Speaker 1: individuals getting beat up in the city. Last night. There
Speaker 1: were two individuals who were shot in the park, twelve
Speaker 1: and fifteen year olds on mcmickon near Grant Park. I
Speaker 1: think they're going to survive. And then you have Judge
Speaker 1: Hathaway taking an armed eighteen year old on probation, who
Speaker 1: didn't get a job as she ordered, didn't enroll in
Speaker 1: behavior modification, didn't report to probation, who murdered sixteen year
Speaker 1: old TJ. Bell two weeks ago, and now he's got
Speaker 1: a million dollar bonds. So I'll say this, Steve Good.
Speaker 1: If this is not the election, election I think starts
Speaker 1: like next week absent here or whatever showing up to me.
Speaker 1: If this time, with all this going on and all
Speaker 1: the lies and depravities off city council, if this time
Speaker 1: there's not a change, I would feel hopeless. Would you agree?
Speaker 3: I agree, And frankly, I think if we don't have
Speaker 3: serious change, we're going to have an exodus of people
Speaker 3: from the city. And what you just described about these
Speaker 3: people from Saint Louis, I hear this from folks all
Speaker 3: the time, who you know, I'm a lawyer as well.
Speaker 3: I have people coming in all the time from out
Speaker 3: of town who are staying downtown, you know, so they
Speaker 3: can go to their meetings and what have you. And
Speaker 3: the reports that they that they get back are uniformly
Speaker 3: you know, they're horrified. They don't feel safe, they don't
Speaker 3: want to go out, don't want to walk to the
Speaker 3: basic attractions. We have a beautiful river walk that people
Speaker 3: are afraid to go to.
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen video. I wouldn't go there at night,
Speaker 1: no signal ninety nine. There's hundreds of kids wilding around
Speaker 1: the riverfront and no one's ever picked up on curfew.
Speaker 1: The message is say you're eighteen, you got your ID
Speaker 1: and I don't have it with the hell I'm eighteen,
Speaker 1: good to go. Hundreds of kids are wilding on the
Speaker 1: streets of Cincinnati, and we're told by Lemon Coarney and
Speaker 1: others it's a safe place to be. It's a lie.
Speaker 1: And I think from Harvard she knows it's a lie.
Speaker 1: We got to run. Steve good and good luck to you.
Speaker 1: Good luck next time you get pissed on on Fourth Street.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you, I thank you Steve Gooden.
Speaker 1: Well this time make a difference. What do you think
Speaker 1: news coming up home of your Reds and Bengals. Who's
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Speaker 9: But he has that opportunity now to say this is
Speaker 9: a program that would serve the American people if it
Speaker 9: were not funded, because government would be more efficient and
Speaker 9: effective and that serves everyone. So they're going to make
Speaker 9: those decisions. Now, are they taking great pleasure in that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 9: Is he trolling the Democrats? Yes, I mean yes, because
Speaker 9: that's what President Trump does. And people are having fun
Speaker 9: with this. But at the end of the day, the
Speaker 9: decisions are tough ones. The president takes no pleasure in this.
Speaker 9: But if you're if Chuck Schumber is going to give
Speaker 9: Donald Trump the opportunity to determine what the priorities are,
Speaker 9: He's going to exercise that opportunity.
Speaker 2: And that's where we are.
Speaker 9: So the effects are very serious on real people, real
Speaker 9: American book. We support federal employees who do a great
Speaker 9: job in all these different areas. But but what they're
Speaker 9: having trying to have fun with, trying to make light of,
Speaker 9: is to point out the absurdity of the Democrats position,
Speaker 9: and they're using memes and all the tools of social
Speaker 9: media to do that. Some people, uh, you know, find
Speaker 9: that entertaining. But at the end of the day, the
Speaker 9: decisions are hard ones, and I'm telling you they're not
Speaker 9: taking any pleasure in that.
Speaker 6: Hello, quiet, and I'm scos, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: You need to weigh in on all of these issues.
Speaker 1: I think been sentenced one you know, you know, how
Speaker 1: let's talk one at a time. He did. He's not
Speaker 1: been sentenced yet. Number two, the Senate has not voted yet.
Speaker 1: At number three, I want you to be involved in this.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the Senate SmackDown is live tonight at
Speaker 6: Heritage Bank Arena. That means that means that Cody Rhoades
Speaker 6: and the best of the wrestlers are here.
Speaker 1: I see them, Schumer and Johnson here there. Get him
Speaker 1: in there, you tag.
Speaker 6: Team him with a couple of guys, and whoever wins
Speaker 6: to shutdowns over?
Speaker 1: Where's the undertaker? What about the cane, the big red machine.
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: At this point, we're in a crisis. Everywhere I look,
Speaker 1: I see total crises, confusion. The Reds have a good team,
Speaker 1: have no lineup. They have the wrong pieces in the
Speaker 1: incorrect locations. And I did get a text here from
Speaker 1: the PGA of America, huh about the Ryder Cup team
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six in a year? Are you in it?
Speaker 1: Are you on it? It appears? Are you going to
Speaker 1: be the captain that the head golf coach at Roger
Speaker 1: Bacon High School? You want? Carucci Wow has been approached
Speaker 1: about coaching the Ryder Cup team and taking Tiery three
Speaker 1: of the players from Roger Bacon to play it.
Speaker 6: Keenan Bradley's likely out. How about this, He had about
Speaker 6: as much chance as I did in that.
Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday they played NCR South for the first time.
Speaker 6: They're in the state finals since nineteen forty one, Right
Speaker 6: I saw that there.
Speaker 1: That's been a while, correct, I would say so, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's been what eighty eighty four years? Yeah, Roger Bacon
Speaker 1: is in the finals of the golf because of Wayne Carucci.
Speaker 6: Well they get if they go all the way with
Speaker 6: Ted McKay, he'll be honored on the show.
Speaker 1: Well bring them in here. We only have state champions, correct, Correct?
Speaker 6: You gotta win and soon did Sean Diddy Combs is
Speaker 6: going to address the courtroom.
Speaker 1: I mean, what are they doing in there? His lawyer
Speaker 1: says he wants to go home. Really, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. He wants to go home, just like
Speaker 1: the Crusher told that one guy, do the best you can. Like,
Speaker 1: Zach Schull says after another Reds loss Bengals lost, we
Speaker 1: simply have to play better. Would you agree? We simply
Speaker 1: have to play better?
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Speaker 1: So they're gonna break it down. Yes, they are good.
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Speaker 3: Yes?
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Speaker 1: You'll be at the pitt. I will be at the pit.
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Speaker 1: what about Pete Diddy Witty? Pete Whitty wants me to
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Speaker 1: That's the big one right there. Rise dear Park got
Speaker 1: to recover from that beating administered by Jimmy Goulig's Madeira
Speaker 1: Mustangs twenty four nothing and that wasn't good segment.
Speaker 6: No Knippert Stadium, Willie sold out tomorrow for a big
Speaker 6: twelve action number fourteen Iowa State in town to take
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Speaker 1: The Cyclones are favored by I think, is you see
Speaker 1: favored by three or.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I got to check with draft MLS Soccer FC Cincinnati
Speaker 6: and New York Red Bulls tomorrow night at seven ESPN
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty. The Orange of Blue guys still got a
Speaker 6: lot to play for. I bet the supporter shield. Remember
Speaker 6: we saw that last year here barely pick it up
Speaker 6: and then playoff seating Trail Philly by four points with
Speaker 6: two to go in the regular season.
Speaker 1: I mean this started, didn't whenn't?
Speaker 6: They started in February? So here we got over. They
Speaker 6: got a longer season than Nascar.
Speaker 1: They started the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Yet, no they're gonna I think the game seven of
Speaker 6: the play MLS Cup is on Christmas Day.
Speaker 1: Then they started again in January.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Cyclones have announced it a long time forward. Justin
Speaker 6: five will return to the Clones this year. He's the
Speaker 6: all time leader in goals and games played, and he
Speaker 6: returns for his eleventh pro season at age thirty six.
Speaker 1: What about Paul Lawless? And we heard cyclones lawless? Is
Speaker 1: he lawless and.
Speaker 6: Gone down somewhere? I think he's still He was a
Speaker 6: good town. I got to connect up with him. Uh,
Speaker 6: they retired his number. It's in the it's in the
Speaker 6: it's in the.
Speaker 1: What number is it?
Speaker 6: You should know these things. Well, it's been a lot,
Speaker 6: that's a long time ago. I can't remember everything. Also,
Speaker 6: while he yeah, looks like back to you see it
Speaker 6: looks like Dante Corleone is going to play tomorrow.
Speaker 1: He's missed the last couple of games.
Speaker 6: And we talked about Indiana's oldest festival this weekend. It's
Speaker 6: ongoing right now, one hundred and sixteenth Annual Aurora Aurora
Speaker 6: Farmer's Fair. It's on the streets a beautiful Aurora, Indiana.
Speaker 6: Third in main steakhouses. The place you were talking about.
Speaker 1: I've been there many times and many guys is but
Speaker 1: it was always me correct. So also we have the
Speaker 1: Sound Kraft Festival going. If you can't find something to
Speaker 1: do right now, something's wrong. Correct. Got to do something.
Speaker 6: And then I think next week the steamboats come to town.
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, are some of them already here? Segment?
Speaker 1: It's Red's opening day, I said, March twenty sixth, Is
Speaker 1: that correct? One hundred and seventy three days away? Who's it? First?
Speaker 1: Let's say you have Kyle Swarver signing with the Reds
Speaker 1: on a five year, one hundred and fifty million dollars package.
Speaker 6: You put them at first, correct, it don't make it.
Speaker 6: He left, he can play, he can dh and play first.
Speaker 1: He wants to come here? Correct? I would say so, yes,
Speaker 1: what he said. Now. Secondly, he's already got a World
Speaker 1: Series ring, correct, right from twenty sixteen? The Cubs?
Speaker 3: Yep? Is that right?
Speaker 1: I think yeah? I think so. Now, who's at second base?
Speaker 1: Probably Matt McLean? Has he earned the position in your
Speaker 1: mind at this point?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's no, Well, he's not earned it. He's got a
Speaker 1: rebound from a tough season this year. Well, he didn't
Speaker 1: play last year, correct, and the season before that he
Speaker 1: didn't play after the third week in August. Right, So
Speaker 1: at some point he's got to arise. Oh yeah, to shortstop?
Speaker 1: Who's who knows who's at shortstop?
Speaker 3: We don't know?
Speaker 1: Well, what about Ellie? Does he belong in right field
Speaker 1: or left field, and what I would try him in
Speaker 1: the outfield and see what happens. Does Francona have the
Speaker 1: guts to pull that trigger over the objections of his agent,
Speaker 1: Scott Boras.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: What do you say? Does he have the Girates?
Speaker 6: The Pirates put their big guy in center field, right,
Speaker 6: so why not try him out?
Speaker 3: You have?
Speaker 6: You don't try him to say short stop? He could
Speaker 6: be a south Stewart, could be Edwin Arroyo. They still
Speaker 6: got Espinal what he just kind of faded away?
Speaker 1: So let's say you have a Royo at their base.
Speaker 6: Has got to be key Brian Hayes. Well, he's got
Speaker 6: the defense.
Speaker 1: How about south Stewart? Doesn't They're lacking a little bit
Speaker 1: of defensive You don't. I just goes to the shortstop
Speaker 1: in the second base.
Speaker 6: Well, and then, like the Cowboys said, there may be
Speaker 6: some big changes coming.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what needs to happen. I think
Speaker 1: Catcher is secured, Stevenson in Trevino at first base. I
Speaker 1: put Kyle Swarber. Do you agree? What if they signed
Speaker 1: the polar Bear put him at first Whoever, what's one
Speaker 1: of those two? I hope Kyle Schwarber. But Bear is
Speaker 1: a lot younger. That guy's at first second base, I
Speaker 1: stick with mc swain a little bit longer. At short stop,
Speaker 1: I put a Royal. Is he any good? We'll find out.
Speaker 1: At third base, I put sal Stewart, and what about
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart at third? He's hurt? You can't play. Then
Speaker 1: in left field, I put a steer centerfield. I put
Speaker 1: friedol right right field. Ellie Dela Cruze, well you can throw.
Speaker 6: You can put steer at first sometimes, and now Alanto
Speaker 6: Alonso be the d H. And then I trade you
Speaker 6: got some flexibility there. I trade Hunter Green, he signed
Speaker 6: through twenty twenty nine. Lodolo. I dingle him out there
Speaker 6: and say, do you like him or not? Get something
Speaker 6: for Nickolodolo? Trade him Undergreen, trade him You're still have
Speaker 6: pretty good starting pitching, and in the trade get three
Speaker 6: or four hammers who can play a position.
Speaker 1: To DH et c. The fact that we don't have
Speaker 1: a home run hitter and my ballpark, the Great American
Speaker 1: more than twenty two home run outrage and that ballpark right,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me?
Speaker 6: If they would sign Kyle Schwarber, he would personally remodel
Speaker 6: left field I think anywhere licking river, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 6: I think I think if Kyle, I think they're going
Speaker 6: to be people out on the river and kayaks Park
Speaker 6: in San Francisco, fun getting getting the home run balls
Speaker 6: in the in the river.
Speaker 1: Look, he's got all the money he needs, come back home.
Speaker 1: He's from Middle Tucky. He loves Butler County. Here sign
Speaker 1: a five year, one hundred and fifty million dollar deal.
Speaker 1: Do you agree you get rid of Martinez? What do
Speaker 1: you make twenty milk? That was worthless? Well twenty one?
Speaker 1: I think get rid of that, right, he's not then
Speaker 1: Hunter Green, get rid of that. See, let's play ball.
Speaker 1: And maybe the panda bears better than Kylee Swarber. He's
Speaker 1: eight years younger. Have you thought about that one? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean that's why Nick Crawl and Brad Meter and
Speaker 6: all the rest of them get the action.
Speaker 1: And I think Jeff Brandley has their ear, which is
Speaker 1: why Brantley said big changes are coming. What did he
Speaker 1: mean by that? Segments? Probably something's going to happen. They
Speaker 1: got to do something. I can recall when I coached
Speaker 1: of Bob crabl Crabs and DOUBABC. Once a year we
Speaker 1: would play Midland. We played Midland one year when they
Speaker 1: had two months later they won the national title. They
Speaker 1: won it all. They had a total of three losses,
Speaker 1: and I have the game ball segment from that game.
Speaker 1: The Crable Crabs beat Midland to one. What in a
Speaker 1: short series, anything can happen. And I think the Reds
Speaker 1: against the Dodgers couldn't beat him in seven. But the
Speaker 1: way those games were played and the bad decisions made
Speaker 1: by Francona on the mound contributed to the loss. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not showing it would have made a difference, But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Sala story could be the real deal.
Speaker 1: I'll find out how good that guy. He's only twenty one.
Speaker 1: He can barely drink beer legally. So he's got to play,
Speaker 1: and Elie's got to. If we start next March twenty sixth,
Speaker 1: and Dela Cruise is still playing shortstop, that's a problem
Speaker 1: because you have to overwhelm with the player. Once Dave
Speaker 1: Parker could not play shortstop or first base. He was
Speaker 1: a catcher, believe it or not, a quarter tech, right,
Speaker 1: and he said, okay, I'm six foot five, I got
Speaker 1: an arm that can throw a ball through a brick wall.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play right field and be an All star.
Speaker 1: Why can't that be Dela Cruz with his speed and
Speaker 1: his reach and his arm, he's a perfect right fielder. Right.
Speaker 1: Are you with me on this or not?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Speak up a little bit, like you got a pair.
Speaker 1: I said yes. Oh, you better say yes. And then
Speaker 1: you got to do something to shortstop. You got to
Speaker 1: have slick fielding. You can have a lack of offense
Speaker 1: and production at shortstop as long as they're good fielders.
Speaker 1: What I do is have a good catcher, shortstop, second
Speaker 1: base and pitchers. Just like Gordon Veterino. You build up
Speaker 1: the middle. And many times I played both shortstop and
Speaker 1: second base at the same time, same time. That's how
Speaker 1: quick I was. How about that? So, like coach, you're
Speaker 1: going to be ninety years old October the seventh, been here,
Speaker 1: he will be here. Have you seen him? No? I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him myself in twenty years. But he's responsible
Speaker 1: as much as any other man for my great athletic prowess.
Speaker 1: Saman give me out of the student's report.
Speaker 6: Wellie, we wish every one to have a happy weekend
Speaker 6: and a good weekend and a safe one.
Speaker 1: You can't find something to do this weekend, You're a clown.
Speaker 1: We leave you with the immortal words of the stud report.
Speaker 3: Next week's case handled by the highway patrol is a
Speaker 3: very exciting one. We hope you'll be with us until then.
Speaker 6: Remember the careless driver isn't driving his car, he's aiming it.
Speaker 3: This is Roderick Crawford saying see you next week.
Speaker 1: And Roger Bacon High School is not driving the car.
Speaker 1: They're aiming on the state title and golf because of
Speaker 1: Wayne Carucci, I stayed titled in golf for Roger Bacon,
Speaker 1: who beat Saint X, beat Delakota, beat dr Park, they
Speaker 1: beat Elder to the best golfing team in the state
Speaker 1: because of men like Wayne Crouchy reached back to his
Speaker 1: old school and said, let me help, and over the
Speaker 1: three years she's developed a a golfing program that people
Speaker 1: are shocked and amazed about. You know what I'm saying, yep,
Speaker 1: all right, say we have about a minute. Romani, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna write it down right now. I'm gonna hold you
Speaker 1: to acoun. I'm gonna keep this right here, we go
Speaker 1: give me the final score Bengals the Lions. What is
Speaker 1: give it to me.
Speaker 6: I say the Bengals upset them twenty seven to twenty.
Speaker 1: Came Bengals win twenty seven? What do I say? I
Speaker 1: say Lions win, final score thirty five to ten. Now,
Speaker 1: whoever is closest wins a hot fud Sunday? Do you
Speaker 1: agree they get blown out for a third game?
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 1: Curtains well, but Zach Shulway after the game will say,
Speaker 1: we simply have got.
Speaker 6: To play better with the Green Bay Packers. We simply
Speaker 6: have got to play the lambeau Field. We simply have
Speaker 6: to play better. Frozen tundra, they're going there. I think
Speaker 6: it won't be frozen a week from Sunday, but it'll
Speaker 6: be hot segment.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's continue the more. Have a great weekend, watch high
Speaker 1: school football, go to the festivals, go to the Bengals game,
Speaker 1: get out and enjoy this because when it's minus fourteen
Speaker 1: degrees in January, you're going to miss these hot days
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