WEBVTT - 10-3-25 Bill Cunningham Show 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.160 Bill Cunningham, the Great American, and welcome this Friday afternoon 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.160 in the tri State. Of course, the Bengals are playing 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.000 Sunday against the Lions, ten and a half point favorite, 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.279 so Tony tells me they're going to lose by about 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.919 twenty or thirty. That's a different story. Reds Baseball is 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.960 now concluded. Yours, cheerly will be at the elder game tonight. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:25.160 I'm going asked by some of the elder faithful to 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.200 show up, maybe speak to the team or speak to 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.440 the cheerleaders one or the other before the big game 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.680 in the pit. I will be there rather speak to 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.879 the cheerleaders, I think, but nonetheless joining you and I 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.600 now is Congressman Thomas Massey of Northern Kentucky. It took 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.600 the place of Jeff what's his name. Jeff Davis was 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.080 that guy's name about ten years ago and he's been 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.080 in Congress for the last ten years. And Congressman Massey, 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.480 welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Congressman, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.800 before we get onto the lockdown shutdown and they shut 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.320 down the government, etc. And also the files, the Epstein 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.720 files that you're involved with, I want to ask a question. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:02.319 Are you ready for a question? Early on? 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.400 I'm ready. I'm ready for anything. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:04.679 Bill. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.600 You're like an eclectic guy. You remind me of Abraham Lincoln. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.440 You live off the grid, live by yourself, generate your 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.600 own electricity, generate your own water systems. You're a scientist, 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.960 you have patents on all this smart. In other words, 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.520 you're a smart guy. You're almost autistic in a way 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.240 because you're so smart. Why in the world are you 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.800 in politics when you have these other skills? I don't 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.200 get it. Why is Thomas Massey in politics? 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:28.640 Look? 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.360 I love fixing things that are broken, and this is 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.679 the biggest thing that's broken in the world, and I 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:35.000 still can't figure out how. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:35.560 To fix it. 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.720 So the engineer in me is still trying to fix Congress. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:41.320 I guess that's what it is. 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.720 Well, we're in the middle of this thing. There's going 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.640 to be another vote pretty soon in the Senate, likely 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.360 will go down. Can you explain to Tony Bender and 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.640 Boone County what in the hell is happening? I watch 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.440 all the morning shows, as I'm sure you do. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:55.640 Not. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.880 On one hand, the Democrats saying it's the Republicans, and 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.040 the Republicans are saying the Democrats. The Democrats say, we 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.280 don't want to fund healthcare for illegals. The Republicans saying, yes, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.800 you do. The Republicans say, we don't want to give 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:12.240 billions of dollars to insurance companies on these ACAO Obamacare subsidies. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.480 The Democrats say, you're ruining health care for individuals who 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.960 can't buy insulin. If you're a normal person watching the news, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:20.600 what do you get out of this? So can you, 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.400 Thomas Massey? Can you tell us what the hell's going 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.400 on in Washington just on this issue? 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:27.560 Let me boil it down. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.799 First of all, ignore everything they're saying in the news, Okay, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:35.600 ignored what the Republicans in the House have passed and 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.960 sent to the Senate was Joe Biden's budget last year. Okay, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.880 So I'm a little miffed that we've already surrendered this 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.679 much that we've said. Okay, Trump got elected, but we're 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.040 going to go with Joe Biden's budget again. That's what 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:54.280 a continuing resolution does. It continues last year's budget every 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:54.919 line item. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:56.840 So I didn't vote for it. 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.920 There were two Republicans of the House that didn't vote 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.519 for and one Republican. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.200 In the Senate who didn't vote for it. He's also 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.000 from Kentucky. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:08.360 His name you can probably guess, wow, you are, like 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.080 you're clairvoyant. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.560 I had on two days ago explaining why I had 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:12.919 him on. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:18.760 Okay, well, then if your listeners weren't listening two days ago, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:19.839 I'll just update them. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.720 The Republican Continuing. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.320 Resolution, which is Joe Biden's budget, adds a trillion or 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:25.600 two trillion dollars. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.119 To the deficit if we go with that. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.320 The Democrats offered an alternative in the Senate that adds 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:32.799 three trillion to the deficit. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.200 Now, how does THEIRS add three. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.640 Trillion to the deficit, Well, it unrolls some of the 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.440 cost cutting that happened in the Big Beautiful Bill on Medicaid. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.280 So there we all know there's some fraud in Medicaid. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.080 And there's a provision in the Big Beautiful Bill that 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:53.360 passed earlier this year that says that illegals. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.200 Can't get medicaid. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:04:00.720 And so the Democrats actually they didn't target that one 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:05.640 specific provision. They targeted everything, every cost saving measure in 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.680 the Big Beautiful Bill. And so their version eliminates the 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:13.200 provision that's supposed to stop the fraud for illegals. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.240 Now, do I know how many illegals we're getting healthcare? 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.960 I have no idea, but and I suspect there were 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:24.480 some in California and Massachusetts. And so if the Democrats 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:29.000 were successful and in unrolling that effort to get rid 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.000 of that fraud. Now, the state of California might not 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.640 call it fraud, but if the Democrats are successful in 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.960 doing that, then they would effectively be giving healthcare to 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.920 illegal immigrants. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.440 Okay, so there's one person in the Senate that voted 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:50.440 against the Trump position. There's two people in the House. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.560 You're one of the two. Is there something in the 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.880 water or the air in Kentucky? Because the rest of 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.039 the country says, you know what is putting another two 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.919 trillion dollars? Said, what was the reason you voted no? 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.799 When essentially you voted with in a sen Chuck Schumer 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.000 and you voted with Nancy Pelosi. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.560 Right, Well, but here's the thing. My vote hasn't changed, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.440 and neither is Rand Paul's. When this was Joe Biden's budget, 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.840 we were no. And then when they did a continuing 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.920 resolution on it again in last December, we were no. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.960 And there were some Republicans with US. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.839 But now and the Democrats were a yes, but now 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:31.120 that it's Trump as president, the Democrats don't want Joe 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.159 Biden's budget because they think they can force Republicans to 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.960 spend more by doing a shutdown. It's this, here's the 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.200 simple version, Rand Paul and I want to spend less 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.719 than the Republicans want to spend up there, and the 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.600 Democrats want to spend more than. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.200 The Republicans want to spend up there. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:47.080 And what the. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.719 Republicans up there want to spend is the exact same 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.680 amount that Joe Biden spent it. And by the way, 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.040 if that is Trump's position, it's not a good position. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.560 It's not physically conservative, and it's also going to tie 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.839 his hand going forward. I know he's going to try 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.880 to individually not send the money to these certain departments. 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.320 The problem is the courts will tie him up. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:13.360 They'll say, well, listen, Congress voted for Joe's Biden's budget again, 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:14.760 and you signed that budget. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.640 And that's going to be hard to beat in court. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.880 When he starts not you know, tries to say I'm 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.040 not going to send the money to USAID or I'm 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:26.680 not going to send the money to public you know, broadcastings, 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.200 because that's the other thing that gets that's not being 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:34.800 discussed in the news because because the Republicans don't want 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.120 to discuss it and the Democrats don't either. All the 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:41.320 Doge cuts are undone by the bill that the Republicans 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:45.560 have put on the floor. Like the Doge cuts only 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.040 last for the year that they were done. You would 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.279 think if we thought they were wasteful enough that we 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.679 took them out of the budget last year, we wouldn't 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.120 put them back in the budget this year. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:57.960 But that's what Republicans are doing. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.039 If Republicans do it, we have no shot. What So 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.000 how much pressure do you get from Speaker Johnson or 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:08.120 from Donald Trump and his alcoholtes. You're the one Republican 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.200 often on the other side of the administration, and your 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.560 commercials are ubiquitous. I see them everywhere, and I said 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.400 you off the air. I may be married to a woman, 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.200 and maybe not my personal situation you might have, you 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.960 might have somebody on the side. In a sense, I 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.400 sense that I love Donald Trump, but I also love 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:29.320 what you're doing because you're so independent and you think differently. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.960 And how much pressure are you under from Mike Johnson, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.880 the Republicans and Donald Trump, because most most Republicans would buckle, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:38.800 but Thomas Massey will not buckle. 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:43.040 How much pressure, Well, they've they've intensified the pressure on 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.240 me for this simple reason, not that they think they 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.400 can change me. Look, they've spent two and a half 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.680 million dollars of negative ads against me. What they want 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.200 to do is whip me to keep the others in line. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.480 So if you're a member of the Freedom Caucus and 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.320 this budget is against everything you ever campaigned on, but 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.920 you're being pressured to vote for it, what you do 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.360 is you look over there in northern Kentucky and you 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.680 look at the ads being run against Congressman Massy, and 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.440 you go, man, I don't. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.000 Know if I could take that kind of heat. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.080 So the reason they're spending all that money against me 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.520 on these negative ads is to keep the other horses 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:21.080 in the barn. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.120 And frankly, it's working on the other horses. It was 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.640 never meant to work on me. They know they can't 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:28.080 change me. 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.360 And by the way, I'm being consistent, I'm the one 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.360 up there who hasn't changed. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.440 To well, Alicia, you know, if you get defeated, which 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.720 I think is quite unlikely. But nonetheless, will you go 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.600 down on principle or will you ever collapse and say, Okay, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.280 we're going to keep spending two borrowing an additional two 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.559 trillion dollars every year? Those are the physically conservative Republicans 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.040 doing that. Well you if you lose your seat, are 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:52.560 you good with that? 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.559 Here's the one thing I want is whenever I leave Congress, 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.280 whether I get beaten in an election or whether I retire, 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.079 at some point, I want to sit on my porch 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.679 here in Kentucky and have no regrets. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.600 Especially if everything's going to hell in a. 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.240 Handbasket like I said it would, I want to be 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.360 here and say I told them so. And I don't 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.719 want to lose sleep over having sold out, because I'm 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.760 not going to sell out. So that's, you know, that's 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.880 the thing that I think about the most. Whether I 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.920 win this cycle or not this cycle, I'm going to 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.319 have no regrets. I am fighting for the people of 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.960 northern Kentucky, and frankly, I think doing what the other 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.440 congressmen promised their constituents they would do, which is to 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.439 try to balance the freaking. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:45.720 Budget impossible if physically conservative Republicans run two trillion dollar 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.360 deficits as far as the eye can see, and the 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.720 Democrats want to spend three trillion dollars every year in 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.480 deficit spending. We have no shot. How do you see 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.760 this playing out in five or ten years when it's 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.920 up to fifty trillion dollars or sixty trillion dollars? Kind 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.520 of give me the future. I may be with you 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.000 in three or four or five years, you'll be around them. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.679 I think I'll be. I'm not sure how will this 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.160 play out within the next ten years. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:10.400 You know. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.720 I used to say Bill, I used to say this 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.720 debt as we're saddling our grandkids with it. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.480 But I realized that's what they want me to say. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.040 I realized people are okay, thinking your grandkids will have 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:22.560 the debt. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.439 What they will not tell you is we don't have to. 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.240 Wait five or ten years to see what's going to 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.280 happen when you run deficits this high. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:30.800 We're feeling it right now. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:35.040 The inflation is all caused because we are monetizing our debt. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.679 The high interest rates are caused because the government's the 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.320 biggest borrower of money and they're pushing up the interest rates. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.120 The fact can't even lower the interest rates on your 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.280 mortgage right now, maybe they could lower it to percent 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.760 or something. They can't get it any lower than that, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.480 because it's the fair market, the free market. 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:55.439 It's the four. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.920 Sovereign wealth funds that normally would buy our debt who 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.760 aren't buying it anymore, who are saying that four and 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.240 a half percent is not a good deal because you're 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.640 going to pay me back in dollars, and we know 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.240 you're going to deflate the dollar, you're going to devalue 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.120 the dollars. So we're not even going to take four 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.560 and a half percent. We want more than that. So 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.560 just to sum it all up, the debt, we don't 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.440 have to wait five or ten years to see what 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.880 happens when you spend two trillion dollars you don't have. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:23.439 We're already feeling it. 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.000 Your dollar's worth twenty percent less than it was four 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.960 years ago. If you haven't got a twenty percent raise, 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:33.080 you are making less money effectively than you were four 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:33.640 years ago. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.800 Congressman Thomas Massey I compare it to like a Indianapolis 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.400 five hundred race car with a parachute on the back, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.800 which is all we're going slower and slower and slower 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.160 because of the debt and the deficit. At some point 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.360 it's going to hit the wall. And when when that 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.640 thing hits the wall, and we're spending right now over 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.880 a trillion dollars a year in interest on the national debt, 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.679 a trillion dollars a year, at some point it's going 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.000 to be two trillion dollars a year, in which case 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.880 describe the American economy at that point. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.720 Well, here's here's what's going to break the camel's back 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.319 is when we lose our reserve status as a currency 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.520 because we can monetize our debt as we have done, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.240 printed trillions of dollars out of thin air, and it 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:23.280 still works because we are diluting dollars that foreign countries hold. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.720 Like the world loves the dollar and they love to 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.160 buy things with dollars, but to buy things with dollars, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:30.920 you've got to have dollars in your bank, so they 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.440 hold it as their reserve currency to stabilize their own money. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.680 And we take three percent of it back. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.400 Every year, just like a credit card doing a transaction fee. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.479 We take three percent of it back because we're monetizing 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:46.520 our debt and devaluing their holdings. This all collapses when 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.720 we lose our reserve status and there are fewer and 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:54.280 fewer countries using the dollar as their medium of exchange. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.600 And that's when it's going to hit the wall. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.000 And what will happen is you'll, if. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.880 It doesn't totally collapse, what will happen is we'll have 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.319 to balance the budget that day. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:07.720 Nobody will loan this money. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:13.240 People will be hauling their paychecks to Kroger's in a 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:19.120 wheelbarrow of cash. And because it'll just the inflation will 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.920 hit us huge and interest rates will be high. We'll 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:26.119 have stagflation like we saw, like we saw in the 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:27.160 late seventies. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.840 Yeah, awful, And there's no way out of it. And 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.880 it's going to happen. And we argue about should illegals 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.640 get free medical care? That's the big issue. Hey, If 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.120 we spend in twenty twenty six the same amount of 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.920 money we spend in the year twenty twenty, we would 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.160 have a balanced budget. In fact, we'd have a surplus. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.079 We cannot go back to levels of spending of twenty 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:48.920 twenty correct. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:50.720 Correct. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.120 Thank you for pointing this out, because I'm sure Ran 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.839 Paul said this and I forgot to say this what 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.680 you people say, all right, you don't like the Republican plan, 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.439 this two trillion dollar deficit, you don't like the Democrat plan, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:03.640 three trillion dollar deficit. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.440 What's your plan? Our plan is the penny plan. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.719 And it used to be the case when Rand and 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.520 I first got elected a decade ago, if you would 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.200 just cut everything one percent every year and five years, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:16.320 you could balance the budget. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.200 It is no longer the case. 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.280 As brand may have told you, you have to cut 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:22.440 six pennies out. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.440 Of every dollar for five years to. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.120 Get us back to those twenty twenty levels where we 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.320 would be balanced. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:33.280 And that's our plan. We've offered various forms, amendments, we've 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.760 we've offered it that way, we've offered. 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:40.280 It as straight up bills, and it's just they aren't 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.360 getting the message in Washington, d C. But the people 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.320 back home, I'm telling you, you're filling it in the 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.720 in the inflation and the interest rates. And the Republicans 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.120 want to blame Democrats, and Democrats want to blame Republicans, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:57.280 but they're all to blame because they both want deficit spending. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.960 You know, when I have ound representatives of the two 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.200 up administration, they say, the moneys from the tariffs, which 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.400 are billion, hundreds of billions of dollars, and the moneies 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.280 that are going to be extra income from all the 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:13.440 income taxes paid by foreign entities moving their factories back 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.080 to America are going to be such huge amounts of 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.080 money we can pay off the debt and deficit. Do 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:18.760 you believe that? 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.120 No, because I'm talking to the factories in northern Kentucky 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.320 and here's what you're telling me. They say, well, because 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:31.480 Congress hasn't put these into law. Remember the tariffs on automobiles. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.680 There's there's tariffs on automobiles and trucks that did incentivize 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.520 Toyota and Honda to put factories here. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.440 Those were passed by Congress, okay. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.720 Which meant that they could reasonably expect it would still 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.240 be the same US policy in a few years, and 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.600 so they did move resources to America and it did 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.080 help some companies here. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.800 These particular tariffs they change every day. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.680 The Congress has never voted on them, right, And so 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.600 what I'm hearing from the fact is they say, well, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.080 we don't know if this incentive to locate our stuff 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:05.520 here is. 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.160 Going to be permanent, but what we do know is 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:08.680 if we. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.520 Go buy more stamping machines to stamp steel to make 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:12.280 seats for the. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.880 Ford cars here in Kentucky. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.840 We got to buy those from Mexico, the machines that 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.920 make the seats, and there's a fifty percent tariff. We're 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:25.360 not expanding when you've put so the tariff is so 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.840 high we can't even bring the equipment to the United 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:28.880 States to expand. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.680 Well, you're making too much sense. But we're living on 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.000 borrow time, which I've said for last twenty years. I 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.720 said years ago, Thomas Massi that the two things that 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.600 destroy America will be open southern borders. If we had 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.160 Kamala Harrison the White House now, we'd have ten to 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.280 twenty million more and we'd be out of business. Secondly, 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.080 as an accumulated national debt, which is thirty seven trillion, 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.920 and the Republican plan in five years is they have 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.880 that at fifty trillion and the Democratic plan is at 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.600 sixty trillion. Either way, we can service the debt. When 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.280 we're not the reserve currency anymore, We're going to need 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.960 a wheelbarrow to buy a loaf of bread. And the 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.360 day is coming and I guess we're powerless to stop it. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.879 You're one of four hundred and thirty five. Rampaul is 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.040 one of one hundred, and if we can't do it 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.480 with Trump, guess what we can never do it? Would 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:19.040 you agree? 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:21.439 I would agree. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.520 This is once in a lifetime opportunity. We've got the House, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.320 the Senate. I know it's hard to get sixty votes 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.199 in the Senate, but you can do reconciliation with fifty 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:32.080 one votes. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.160 And we've got the White House. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:38.280 We may lose the House here obviously, and thankfully Trump. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.520 I agree. By the way you said before you somebody 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:42.960 you know loves me and loves Trump. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.920 It's possible to love us vote and he's going to 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.000 be the president for another three years and three months. 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.200 The problem is we're probably going to lose this unique 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.640 opportunity in time. It's very likely we use the House, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.960 lose the House of Representatives majority soon in the next midterm, 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.480 and we will miss the chance. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:03.480 To make the stuff permanent. 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.480 The President could still do executive orders and nibble around 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.960 the edges, but it will all be temporary because they'll 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.520 undo that when the White House changes. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.600 Well, I find myself a Trump supporter and a Massy supporter, 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.000 which is kind of odd, but we'll see what happens. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.280 Well good. I don't think it's a I don't think 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:24.160 it's an odds. 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.240 I campaigned on the same thing he campaigned on. I'm 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.200 just holding her feet to the fire up there. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.560 Thomas Massey, you're a great American. Thanks for coming on 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.040 the Bill Cunningham Show. And Congressman, thank you and keep 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:35.800 doing what you're doing. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:38.640 Thank you, Bill. We'll do god Bosh. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.680 Let's continue with more news next and coming up later 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.440 is Leland Vitdert who has autism and how parents should 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:51.720 deal with it. Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW by forty 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.119 three minutes after the hour, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.679 Let's set up the rest of today's big show. At 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.560 one o'clock today, Leland Vitdert will be here and the 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.000 book is to my right. It's his book called Born Lucky. 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.679 His nickname is Lucky and unbeknownst to him until he 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.800 was about eighteen years old, unbeknownst to me, Leland Vintert 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.359 has autism and he's had autism, of course since the 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:19.480 day he was born. And this book details his journey 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.200 from an autistic kid that suffered vicious bullying and schools, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.280