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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great American, and welcome this Friday afternoon

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Speaker 1: in the tri State. Of course, the Bengals are playing

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Speaker 1: now concluded. Yours, cheerly will be at the elder game tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm going asked by some of the elder faithful to

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Speaker 1: the cheerleaders, I think, but nonetheless joining you and I

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Speaker 1: now is Congressman Thomas Massey of Northern Kentucky. It took

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Speaker 1: the place of Jeff what's his name. Jeff Davis was

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Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Congressman,

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Speaker 1: before we get onto the lockdown shutdown and they shut

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for a question? Early on?

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm ready for anything.

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Speaker 3: Bill.

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Speaker 1: You're like an eclectic guy. You remind me of Abraham Lincoln.

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Speaker 1: You live off the grid, live by yourself, generate your

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Speaker 1: you have patents on all this smart. In other words,

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Speaker 1: get it. Why is Thomas Massey in politics?

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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 4: I love fixing things that are broken, and this is

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Speaker 3: To fix it.

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Speaker 4: So the engineer in me is still trying to fix Congress.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're in the middle of this thing. There's going

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Speaker 1: On one hand, the Democrats saying it's the Republicans, and

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Speaker 2: Let me boil it down.

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Speaker 4: First of all, ignore everything they're saying in the news, Okay,

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Speaker 4: sent to the Senate was Joe Biden's budget last year. Okay,

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Speaker 4: going to go with Joe Biden's budget again. That's what

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Speaker 4: Resolution, which is Joe Biden's budget, adds a trillion or

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Speaker 2: But that's what Republicans are doing.

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Speaker 1: If Republicans do it, we have no shot. What So

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Speaker 1: how much pressure do you get from Speaker Johnson or

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Speaker 4: How much pressure, Well, they've they've intensified the pressure on

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Speaker 4: So if you're a member of the Freedom Caucus and

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Speaker 4: So the reason they're spending all that money against me

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Speaker 2: And frankly, it's working on the other horses. It was

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Speaker 4: Here's the one thing I want is whenever I leave Congress,

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Speaker 1: Budget impossible if physically conservative Republicans run two trillion dollar

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Speaker 1: deficit spending. We have no shot. How do you see

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Speaker 1: in three or four or five years, you'll be around them.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll be. I'm not sure how will this

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I used to say Bill, I used to say this

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Speaker 2: But I realized that's what they want me to say.

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Speaker 4: I realized people are okay, thinking your grandkids will have

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Speaker 2: What they will not tell you is we don't have to.

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Speaker 4: Wait five or ten years to see what's going to

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Speaker 4: The high interest rates are caused because the government's the

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Speaker 2: Nobody will loan this money.

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Speaker 2: What's your plan? Our plan is the penny plan.

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Speaker 2: And that's our plan. We've offered various forms, amendments, we've

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Speaker 4: No, because I'm talking to the factories in northern Kentucky

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Speaker 4: Go buy more stamping machines to stamp steel to make

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Speaker 4: We got to buy those from Mexico, the machines that

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Speaker 1: Well, you're making too much sense. But we're living on

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Speaker 1: You're one of four hundred and thirty five. Rampaul is

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Speaker 4: This is once in a lifetime opportunity. We've got the House,

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Speaker 2: And we've got the White House.

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Speaker 4: We may lose the House here obviously, and thankfully Trump.

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Speaker 2: I agree. By the way you said before you somebody

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Speaker 4: It's possible to love us vote and he's going to

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Speaker 4: The problem is we're probably going to lose this unique

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Speaker 2: To make the stuff permanent.

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Speaker 4: The President could still do executive orders and nibble around

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Speaker 1: Well, I find myself a Trump supporter and a Massy supporter,

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Speaker 4: I campaigned on the same thing he campaigned on. I'm

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Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, you're a great American. Thanks for coming on

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Bill. We'll do god Bosh.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue with more news next and coming up later

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Speaker 1: is Leland Vitdert who has autism and how parents should

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Speaker 1: and a cure and treatment, they're being criticized by the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media and the Democratic Party. And that's said because

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine why there's so many increases in autism

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Speaker 1: and other attention deficit disorders now that didn't exist for decades.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason behind it. I don't know what it is, Tyland,

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Speaker 1: Oh hell, I don't know. Is it aspirn I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is there microwaves? I don't know. Is it plastics? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. They're trying to find out, and when they

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Speaker 1: try to find out, the Democratic Party criticizes Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: about anything. And then we find out the last few

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Speaker 1: days that the Biden administration targeted conservatives, including Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: for surveillance. That's the surveillance state put out by the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party because there was no president because of his

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Speaker 1: mental problems, and whoever was in charge of the agencies

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Speaker 1: after because they could. And now this is coming to

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Speaker 1: light and it never hits the mainstream media. That's why

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Speaker 1: you have to listen to talk radio. Secondly, Brian Combs

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Speaker 1: had this story about State of Ohio versus Devon Markham

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Speaker 1: eighteen years old. You might recall a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: there was a team of very popular team killed in

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Speaker 1: OTR about two weeks ago, and Devon Markham has now

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Speaker 1: been charged with that murder of that boy. You recall

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Speaker 1: how upset family members were. He was well known in

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Speaker 1: the area. He's a teenager who was shot down like

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Speaker 1: a dog by Devon Markham. And so some research has

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Speaker 1: been done on Devon Markham. By the way, he's now

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Speaker 1: eighteen years old and he's in jail finally on a

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Speaker 1: million dollar bomb bond. You might recall all summer long

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Speaker 1: police have been saying over time. You might recall the

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Speaker 1: Sheriff's department came on Charmaine McGuffey normally doesn't patrol downtown

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati issued over three hundred citations over a thirty day

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Speaker 1: period of individuals otherwise would not have been cited. That

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Speaker 1: violent crime is soaring in the Central Business District and

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Speaker 1: OTR it so at least forty percent, might be more

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Speaker 1: than that after all the recent shootings. Of course, there

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Speaker 1: was another two of more last night, and the boys

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Speaker 1: shot here were twelve years old and fifteen, so we're

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Speaker 1: talking about a sixth grader and a freshman. Likely not

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Speaker 1: in school Thursday night, shot on East mcmickon near Grand Park.

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Speaker 1: They were about twenty five shots fired. The two are wounded.

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Speaker 1: They're likely to live, were told by Shari Pulolo They're

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Speaker 1: likely to live. Twelve years old running around victimized by someone.

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Speaker 1: Don't know who did it yet they found a car

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Speaker 1: nearby and wanted Hills connected to the shooting investigation and

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Speaker 1: the blood running in the streets of Cincinnati as the

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Speaker 1: mayor is cutting ribbons and the vice Mayor lemon Kearney

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Speaker 1: saying we don't need any more help here, get rid

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Speaker 1: of the highway patrol that never really started. But the

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Speaker 1: story of Devon Markham is common. You might recall yesterday

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Speaker 1: I had on Judge Josh Berkowitz who sounded the alarm.

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Speaker 1: You know how difficult it is for a sitting judge

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Speaker 1: in Hamlet the county to stand up and say I

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Speaker 1: will speak about what's happening inside our courtrooms. And Judge

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Speaker 1: Burkowitch yesterday spoke and said about half the judges here

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Speaker 1: come out of the restorative justice move the reparations movement,

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Speaker 1: and as a consequence, we don't deal with people now

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Speaker 1: based upon their behavior, which is you know that the

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Speaker 1: goal is the behavior we deal with race and gender

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Speaker 1: issues is if an eighteen year old boy a murderer

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Speaker 1: should not be dealt with harshly because of his race

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Speaker 1: and I guess his gender being a black mail. So

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Speaker 1: the restorative justice movement says that if you can't don't

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Speaker 1: have the money to post a bond, you should get

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Speaker 1: out anyway. It's not fair if you're a criminal and

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Speaker 1: don't have discernible assets, it can't go to a bail

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Speaker 1: bondsman like Shropshire and post up ten percent then they

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Speaker 1: post a bond for you. It's not fair that these

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Speaker 1: gang bangers and murderers and drug druggers and the burglars

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Speaker 1: and those who are breaking the car should have a

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Speaker 1: bond set at all, because restorative justice says, if you

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Speaker 1: don't have the money to post a bond, you should

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Speaker 1: get out. Just sign your name in the state of

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Speaker 1: Ohio versus Devon Markham. He was the one charging charged

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Speaker 1: with killing the murdering of the sixteen year old two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago in an OTR the history of this kid.

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Speaker 1: We're learning now that he was on probation at the

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Speaker 1: time of felony gun charges. When a new case got

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Speaker 1: before Judge Allison Hathaway, and that name is well known

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Speaker 1: here in the newsroom. She worked here for many years,

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Speaker 1: Alison Hathaway, along with Rachel and bridget Nally. She was

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Speaker 1: Alison Ali Hathaway and yours truly issued. You have to

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Speaker 1: get three recommendations to go to law school, and I

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Speaker 1: was one of the three. I said. I related to

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Speaker 1: the fact that she cared about the news, cared about

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Speaker 1: the stories, et cetera. She went to law school, got

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Speaker 1: into the public Defender's office, and now she's sitting on

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Speaker 1: Common Police Court as a judge. And Judge Josh Berker,

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Speaker 1: which talked about these judges almost victimized by the law

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Speaker 1: school in colleges that they attend. They're indoctrinated with a

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Speaker 1: fullilosophy of restorative justice and reparations and no cash bonds

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Speaker 1: get people out of jail. We have four hundred beds

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Speaker 1: available in Hamny County Jail to accept individuals who can't

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Speaker 1: get out because they have used guns to commit offenses,

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Speaker 1: but the judges give them no cash bonds. One of

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Speaker 1: the persons in their teenage years was Devon Markham, now

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Speaker 1: charge of murdering a sixteen year old two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: over the ruine. He was on probation by Judge Hathaway.

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Speaker 1: My friend and I visited with her in her courtroom

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Speaker 1: about three months ago to talk with her find a

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Speaker 1: fine woman, and she put them on probation on a

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Speaker 1: previous gun charge. Well, why would this eighteen year old

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Speaker 1: boy walk around with guns? Do you think is to

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Speaker 1: commit crime? In this particular case, Judge Allison Hathaway, sitting

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Speaker 1: as I speak in Common Police Court, ordered mister Markham

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Speaker 1: to get a job. That's so unique. How about work

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Speaker 1: a job. You have to enroll in the behavioral modification

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Speaker 1: program approved by the Probation Apartment and you have to

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Speaker 1: regularly report to your PO, your probation officer. So she said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're a bum, you're a derelict. You're well known to

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Speaker 1: the juvenile court system where Judge Kerry Bloom and juvenile

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Speaker 1: court always because the restorative justice put these kids on probation,

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Speaker 1: said okay, we're going to give you another chance. Because

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Speaker 1: of the order of Judge Allison Hathaway. My friend that

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Speaker 1: the defendant, Devon Marken was available to kill that sixteen

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Speaker 1: year old boy named TJ. Bell near Grand Park and

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Speaker 1: over the rine fourteen days ago. So while on probation,

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Speaker 1: he did not get a job. Well, on probation, he

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Speaker 1: did not enroll in behavior modification, and he did not

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Speaker 1: report to his probation officer. So what happened was a probation,

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Speaker 1: a PV issued, no probation violation, No PO said the

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Speaker 1: hell with it, nothing happens anyway, Well, still continue that

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Speaker 1: life of crime. He murders TJ.

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Speaker 3: Bell.

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Speaker 1: And the person who allowed this to happen in a

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Speaker 1: sense was Judge Allison Hathaway, my friend who came out

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Speaker 1: of the restorative justice movement, who's now a judge, and

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Speaker 1: she'll be on the bench for decades to come unless

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Speaker 1: she's voted out of office, because she thinks, if you're

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Speaker 1: a black male, you get two, three, four or five

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Speaker 1: chances to shoot people until you're locked up. Now he's

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Speaker 1: under a one million dollar cash bond. Now he'll be

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Speaker 1: dealt with. But TJ. Bell is dead. What do you

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Speaker 1: say to his family? So the judges of the Democrat

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Speaker 1: Liberal Party who believe in quote restorative justice bring about

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Speaker 1: the circumstances that hurt their own community. These individuals aren't

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Speaker 1: running around Westchester or Boone County. They're a OTR the

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Speaker 1: central Business District price Ill and they're killing people. They're

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Speaker 1: breaking into cars, breaking into homes, making life miserable, and

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Speaker 1: liberal Democratic judge in him in the county allow.

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Speaker 6: It to occur. Should you get fired up by this? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Will you? I don't think so. The history is not

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Speaker 1: good in this regard. And I give great credit to

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Speaker 1: Judge Josh Burker, which who stood up yesterday and said

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Speaker 1: I can't take it anymore. I'm going to report to

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Speaker 1: the American people what is happening in our urban court system.

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Speaker 1: And it's bad. It's hurting the individuals that these judges represent.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue after one o'clock today we'll be Leland Viddert

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Speaker 1: and we have more scheduled coming up. And I continue

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Speaker 1: to like judge I call her ally Alison Hathaway. She's

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Speaker 1: well intended. She's almost victimized by the colleges and the

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Speaker 1: law schools that she went through. Believe in this left

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Speaker 1: wing crap that results in the killing of those who

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Speaker 1: vote for her. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred ww

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Speaker 1: my Bill Cunningham, the Great America and one of the

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Speaker 1: persons in big time media I've had the pleasure of

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Speaker 1: meeting is Leland Vitters spent years and years with at

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Speaker 1: Fox News in the Middle East and then came back

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Speaker 1: News Nation has been an anchor there for several years

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Speaker 1: and the evening Monday through Friday. And I did not know.

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Speaker 1: I had the good fortune of meeting Leland Vivertert and

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Speaker 1: his family in Naples about a year or two ago

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Speaker 1: and his new bride and now they're married, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: what a wonderful family. Had no idea that Leland Viverdert

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Speaker 1: was diagnosed with autism at a rather young age, but

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Speaker 1: to not discover it himself to it was eighteen or

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Speaker 1: nineteen years old. He just turned forty three years old,

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Speaker 1: a relatively young man. And the book is out which

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Speaker 1: is fabulous. It is called Born Lucky, which I read

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Speaker 1: last week, is two times sell out on Amazon. It's

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Speaker 1: in his third printing. And if you have a friend,

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Speaker 1: a family member, a grandson, a daughter, or anyone in

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Speaker 1: conducted in your life that has a disability, this is

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Speaker 1: the book that you must read, called Born Lucky. And

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Speaker 1: Leland's nickname is Lucky. And just looking at the cover

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Speaker 1: of the book with his dad and Leland when he

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Speaker 1: was about I guess about a year old. It's just

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Speaker 1: a wonderful picture of love between a father and a son.

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Speaker 1: And Leland Vedert, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Speaker 1: And normally, Leland, we deal with politics, what's happening with

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Speaker 1: the doings in Washington politically, who's up, who's down? But

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Speaker 1: I want to spend most of this time with you

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Speaker 1: on the book Born Lucky, and I want to jump ahead,

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Speaker 1: which is not the normal thing for me. On page

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Speaker 1: one sixty six, I made a note and uh, it

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Speaker 1: says on it this is when you're in the Middle

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Speaker 1: East in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 1: Then came the real shock. A month and a half

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Speaker 1: into my time in Israel, my dad had a heart attack.

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Speaker 1: Because it was Jam Kippor, the country had effectively been

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Speaker 1: shut down. I couldn't get a flight home. I was stuck, helpless,

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Speaker 1: relying on second hand updates from mom. I finally saw

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Speaker 1: my dad briefly in November and Florida when I took

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Speaker 1: my first home. Lead was there at that point jumping ahead,

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Speaker 1: a complete sense on your part of failing in a

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Speaker 1: sense to be the son that you should have been

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Speaker 1: your father because of your job.

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Speaker 5: Wow, we went deep quick Bill. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: when I was there in Israel, realizing that I couldn't

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Speaker 5: be there for him the way he had been there

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Speaker 5: for me for fifteen years every day when I got

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Speaker 5: home from school, putting me back together, it was really

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Speaker 5: difficult to sit there in Jerusalem and not know and

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Speaker 5: not be able to get home. So absolutely, and I

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Speaker 5: think what you're picking up on in why I felt

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Speaker 5: that way is the absolute devotion that Dad had to me,

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Speaker 5: to the point that he didn't tell anybody about my diagnosis.

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Speaker 5: He didn't tell me until I was in my twenties.

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Speaker 5: He didn't tell any therapist, he didn't tell any principally,

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Speaker 5: he didn't tell any teacher. He went on a one

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Speaker 5: man mission, was supported unbelievably by my mother to adapt

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Speaker 5: me to the world rather than the world to me.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's so many parents who are told

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Speaker 5: right now, look, you know, we're going to give your

656
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: kid all these accommodations. It's going to make LIFs great,

657
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 5: it's going to make life easier, on and on and on.

658
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 5: And what Dad said was that if Lucky doesn't understand

659
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Speaker 5: how to be in the real world now, he's not

660
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Speaker 5: going to understand later. So this was his driving force,

661
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 5: was to adapt me to the world and rather than

662
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: try to take the adversity away, hold my hand through

663
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 5: that adversity.

664
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Speaker 1: Did you feel you should have known this when you

665
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Speaker 1: were fifteen? And the book relays terrible bullying that you

666
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Speaker 1: went through. You didn't fit in, it was awkward, you

667
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: were beat upon, it was terrible in school. Your father

668
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: would at the end of the day, you'd go home

669
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: and he had to put you back together. Did you

670
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Speaker 1: feel your dad should have told you earlier that you

671
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Speaker 1: had autism?

672
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Speaker 5: You know, Bill know, And here's why. This whole idea

673
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: from my father was that I don't want anyone to

674
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: define you by a diagnosis, and I don't want you

675
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: to define yourself by the diagnosis, and I don't want

676
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: you to use it as an excuse ever.

677
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 7: And I think that was a.

678
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 5: Very powerful, powerful feeling that my dad instilled in me. So,

679
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: you know, I am just so grateful to him. And

680
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 5: I think this book, I think born Lucky, and the

681
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 5: reason it's getting the response it's getting online and on

682
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 5: social media, and as you pointed out, sold out twice

683
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: on Amazon. I don't want any of your listeners to

684
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 5: get in a car accident. But when you get to

685
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 5: wherever you're going, go to Amazon and order it now

686
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 5: before it sells out again. If you want to read

687
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 5: it is because this is hope for every parent of

688
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 5: a kid who's having a hard time. It doesn't matter

689
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 5: if it's autism or ADHD or anxiety or difficulties with bullying,

690
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: whatever it is. This is proof of what parents can

691
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 5: do for their kid to really help them grow, develop,

692
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 5: be confident, understand how they can take on the world,

693
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: get through the bullying, all of the things that are

694
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 5: challenges that the experts don't ever tell parents.

695
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Speaker 7: This is what you can do.

696
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Speaker 1: Growing up. You say, there were little signs that I

697
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 1: was different. I felt I was different. I didn't speak

698
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: until I was three years old, not a word. At

699
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: some point a teacher said to your mom and dad, quote,

700
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Speaker 1: you need to have Lucky evaluated. Did your parents have

701
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: an inkling? But we're talking about the mid to late

702
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Autism then isn't as aware as autism today

703
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. How did that information hit your

704
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: mom and dad. You were probably too young to realize

705
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: that you have to get to Lucky that you evaluated.

706
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: How did your mom and dad really?

707
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was five years old. They took me to

708
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 5: one of those little medical office buildings and sent me

709
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 5: off to the testing with some woman. And they're sitting there,

710
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: you know, a little waiting room with the old magazines

711
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 5: and the stale coffee. And the woman comes back, brings

712
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: my parents into a conference room and says, look, there

713
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 5: is a lot going on in his head and we

714
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 5: don't really understand it. So major behavioral issues. You know,

715
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Speaker 5: if a kid would touch me in the lunchline, I'd

716
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: turn around and slug them, and couldn't wear certain clothes

717
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 5: because the sensory issues and all sort of the classic

718
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 5: signs of what we now know to be autism didn't

719
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 5: speak till I was three. It's completely unable to understand

720
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Speaker 5: any kind of social cues or social emotions, human interaction.

721
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Speaker 5: And then there were big learning disabilities. Right, So I

722
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 5: had an IQ test, two halves of an IQ test.

723
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Speaker 5: A twenty point spread between the two halves is a

724
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 5: learning disability. I had a seventy point spread. They'd never

725
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 5: seen anything like it. And if you could measure my

726
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 5: emotional intelligence by EQ, it would have been near freezing.

727
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Speaker 5: So this is when the woman says to my dad,

728
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 5: we don't really understand what's going on inside his head

729
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: and there's not much you can do about it. And

730
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Speaker 5: my dad goes, is there anything we can do anything?

731
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Speaker 5: And she said no, generally not. So this is the

732
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Speaker 5: story of what mom and dad did and what dad

733
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Speaker 5: did after that. And you know, Bill, you made a

734
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: great point. You and I had lunch together down in Naples.

735
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Speaker 5: My dad was there, and you said, you know, you

736
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 5: wish you'd known he didn't tell anybody, and he's been

737
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 5: very reluctant to tell this story. When we wrote More

738
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 5: and Lucky, I was interviewing him, and every story we

739
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 5: got to he would say, do we really want to

740
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 5: tell that story? And I'd say, try to talk them

741
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Speaker 5: through it and why it was important. And finally I

742
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 5: made a deal with my said book. I said, we

743
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 5: can't do this.

744
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 7: You're going to be completely candid.

745
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 5: And open with me. I'm going to write the manuscript

746
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 5: and if you don't like it, I won't turn it in.

747
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 7: Okay, And I don't really I didn't really have.

748
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 5: A plan if he said no, But anyway, I gave

749
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 5: him a manuscript and he read it and he goes,

750
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Speaker 5: I don't know. This is really way too personal. You know,

751
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 5: these are these are the worst parts of your life.

752
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 5: Now you never told anybody you didn't go to therapy.

753
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 5: Now you're gonna go to therapy on national television, right, Hey, Yeah,

754
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: let me ask it this way.

755
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, please go ahead.

756
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: If if in that waiting room when I was diagnosed,

757
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Speaker 5: that little office, rather than the woman saying there's nothing

758
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 5: you could do, she handed you born Lucky, she handed

759
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 5: you this book. What would you have done? He said, Well,

760
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 5: I would have read it every week, he said. I

761
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 5: can't tell you how much I would have paid for

762
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 5: that book, because it would have given me hope that

763
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 5: I can make a real difference in your life.

764
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Speaker 1: Did your mom and dad feel as if they failed

765
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Speaker 1: you by producing a child with this profound disability? Did

766
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: they feel like, what did we do wrong?

767
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 5: It's a great question. I don't think they ever felt

768
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 5: that way. I think certainly now with the debate around autism,

769
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: it's so important for parents to know it's not their fault.

770
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Speaker 5: And that's really, I think, such an important message and

771
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Speaker 5: one that really needs to be said over and over

772
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Speaker 5: and over again. No parent would wish this on their child.

773
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Speaker 5: No parent wants their child to have a hard time.

774
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Speaker 5: And you know, I think it's so wonderful now that

775
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 5: we are beginning to have an honest conversation about the

776
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 5: cause of autism and why, as you pointed out, when

777
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Speaker 5: I was diagnosed with what we now know to be autism,

778
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Speaker 5: it was one in a thousand or one in fifteen

779
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Speaker 5: hundred kids, and now it's one in thirty one, three

780
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Speaker 5: times as for boys higher in poor minority community, and

781
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 5: finally we're having an honest conversation about it.

782
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Speaker 1: George Weyll and A four which says Leland's story is

783
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Speaker 1: one of adventure, exploration, and discovery first and foremost from

784
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Speaker 1: beginning to nats about the mountain moving power of parental love.

785
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Speaker 1: I can only think of the millions and millions of

786
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Speaker 1: kids that are now in their mid forties as you are,

787
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Speaker 1: and going through the bullying in school they're going through

788
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: right now, that go through a living hell because they

789
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: did not have your parents. They had normal parents that said,

790
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: you know what, we're going to get him some help

791
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: and the ups and downs of life. And I can't imagine,

792
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: I mean lucky that is you, Leland Vitter coming home

793
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: from school, beaten, bloodied, in a sense, psychologically, sometimes physically,

794
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: and your mom and dad puts you back together, then

795
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: send you back to school at some point when when

796
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: you were ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, you probably had the

797
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: ability to say, no, I'm not going back to school.

798
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: I can't take it anymore. You can you relate to

799
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Speaker 1: an autistic kid right now, who's thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. It

800
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: doesn't want to conform live, it doesn't want to confront life.

801
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 5: I did, I didn't a lot of times, and my

802
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 5: dad would sit there, you know, Bill one of the

803
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 5: Stories and Born Lucky. I'm in eighth grade art class

804
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 5: and there's art, art on the walls.

805
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 3: Whatever.

806
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 5: It's none of this are going to be Picasso, right,

807
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 5: But this art teacher didn't like me very much, and

808
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 5: he's sit in front of the entire class. You know,

809
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 5: if I was, if my age the line from him

810
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: was in front of the entire class, if my dog

811
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Speaker 5: was as ugly as you vitter, I would shave its

812
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 5: rear end and make it walk backwards for the entire class. Ooh,

813
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 5: imagine what that does to a kid. So I walked

814
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 5: home that night and my dad was waiting for me.

815
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 5: At the end of the driveway as he always was,

816
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 5: and he says, you know what happened today? And I said,

817
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: I was just you know, humiliated, and just you know,

818
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: this is awful. And he would sit with me for

819
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 5: a couple of hours every night, listening to me, letting

820
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 5: me take out my frustrations and my anger and my difficulty.

821
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 5: And he would then leave my room as I had

822
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 5: cried and yelled and everything else, and he would go

823
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: downstairs and oftentimes, and we now know this as we

824
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 5: wrote the book, or I know it now, he would

825
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 5: sit there in the living room by himself and cry

826
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: in the dark. And the next morning, no, he would

827
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: get me up and he would take me back to school,

828
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 5: because he said, the only way for you to get

829
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 5: through this and to know that you can operate in

830
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 5: the real world is to face this adversity head on

831
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 5: and to learn how to adapt and overcome. Now, what

832
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 5: he didn't say to me is that middle school is

833
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 5: great training for a Washington newsroom.

834
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Speaker 7: But it is.

835
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Speaker 1: Uh, let's go back to this. So a teacher said

836
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: to you, leyland Vetter, you were so ugly. If I

837
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: had a dog, I would shave his butt and make

838
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: the dog walk backwards. That had to be. He didn't say, bud,

839
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Speaker 1: but yes, yes, devastating, devastating, And your father said, did

840
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: their father confront that teacher? I can't imagine the rage

841
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: your dad and your mom, Carol must have felt when

842
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: a teacher says that to you. Did did they confront

843
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: him or not?

844
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Or her?

845
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: The school?

846
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 5: The school did and he ended up apologizing didn't didn't

847
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 5: do me a lot of good, because you know, it

848
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 5: was clear and really put it in the book was

849
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 5: it was illustrative of that. It wasn't just the kids,

850
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 5: it was the adults, right. It was the principal who

851
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: called my parents in two weeks into my time in

852
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 5: this new school. I'd already been taken out of two

853
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: schools because things had been so bad, and they called

854
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 5: my parents in and sit them down and said, you

855
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: know what, everybody at this school thinks Lucky's really weird.

856
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: And then the woman followed up and frankly, I do too.

857
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: So two arrows through my parents' hearts, and it was

858
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 5: illustrative of both how different I was right as a kid,

859
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 5: and also what they were facing and how isolated my

860
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 5: parents felt, and obviously how isolated and alone so many

861
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 5: families feel. You know, Bill, the reason Born Lucky's doing

862
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: so well, if you want to call it that there's

863
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 5: so much interest, isn't because of me. It is my story,

864
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 5: but it's not about me. It's about giving this hope

865
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 5: to parents who for so long have been told there's

866
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 5: no hope and things are hopeless.

867
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: Well, what do you owe your mom and dad?

868
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 5: Well, I think the answer is a lot, obviously. And

869
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Speaker 5: the reason Bill, one of them that I wanted to

870
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 5: write this book now is to say thank you, because

871
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 5: you know, my dad's getting older. He's seventy nine, I

872
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 5: think seventy eight, and it was only fair I thought

873
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 5: to let him know that I understood the sacrifices made

874
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Speaker 5: and just how grateful I am to him, and how

875
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: grateful I am to my mom. You know, Dad wrote

876
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Speaker 5: the afterward, which I think is the best part.

877
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Speaker 7: The second best part is George Will's forward.

878
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 5: And I'm the two hundred and forty pages in the middle.

879
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: But Dad wrote the afterward, and if he rightly pays,

880
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 5: you know, homage to my mother and says she is

881
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 5: the real hero here for keeping not only Lucky together,

882
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: but him. My dad threw all this, you know, this

883
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 5: was a whole of family affair, and we talk about

884
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 5: how hard it is for siblings in this position. Or

885
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 5: my little sister who was in kindergarten. You read this, Bill,

886
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 5: I would in fifth grade walk to her classroom and

887
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 5: pick her up, and we both went to the same

888
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 5: school and then walk home through the woods and we

889
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: would get to the back of the pe fields at

890
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 5: this school. And she said that her first memory of

891
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 5: her brother, she was in kindergarten with me every time,

892
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 5: getting to those woods and starting to cry and walking

893
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 5: her home and her holding my hand. So it shows

894
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 5: the cruelty of growing up in what it's like. And

895
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 5: I think Bill, you picked up on this is that

896
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 5: we made a conscious decision in the book. We didn't

897
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: use the names of anybody who was mean to me, right,

898
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 5: and we use the names of everybody who is nice,

899
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 5: because it's a lesson not just to parents but to

900
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Speaker 5: everybody of what a difference people can make in the

901
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 5: life of a kid who's having a hard time.

902
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: Leyland Vetter, how do you process the meanderings of the

903
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services Trumpet administration to find

904
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: the causes of autism? Since you have it, do you

905
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: have more interest Do you think it is Tyler and all,

906
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: what do you think?

907
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: I mean?

908
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: You don't know because you're a news.

909
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 5: Will yeah, here you go.

910
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 7: Okay, guess what, Bill, I don't have.

911
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: A medical degree. I'm not a doctor, and I am

912
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 5: not a scientist, and I have the chemistry degrees to

913
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Speaker 5: prove chemistry grades to prove it.

914
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Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm not going.

915
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Speaker 5: To talk about dosing of tailano, and I shouldn't because

916
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 5: I don't have an expertise in it. What I will say,

917
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 5: and what I think is so important to say, is

918
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: thank god we are having this conversation now, and it

919
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 5: really frosts me that there are people who would rather

920
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 5: score political points than help solve the scientific question of

921
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 5: our time. And I have said this before, which is you.

922
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 5: I really want to say to these people, do you

923
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: really hate Trump? Would you really rather score political points

924
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 5: on Trump more than you love our kids? Because I

925
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: grew up with autism, I know what it's like. I

926
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Speaker 5: know the hell that millions of kids and millions of

927
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Speaker 5: families are going through. And if we can find an

928
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Speaker 5: answer to this problem, it will be a wonderful and

929
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Speaker 5: miraculous thing.

930
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Speaker 1: One out of every thirty one. And I want to

931
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Speaker 1: end this by referencing on page two forty two what

932
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Speaker 1: your dad's advice to others would be. I really do

933
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: not know what was ahead, who could help, or if

934
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Speaker 1: the verdict would be just give up.

935
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Speaker 3: Well.

936
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Speaker 1: The purpose of this book is to offer hope, real hope.

937
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Speaker 1: Here are the principles I wrote down for myself when

938
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Speaker 1: Lucky that You was diagnosed. One, have no expectations of

939
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Speaker 1: the future. Two, under no circumstances, let your child feel

940
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: they've ever disappointed you, ever under any circumstances. Three you

941
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: are the depository of their hurt, their frustration, and their humiliation.

942
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: And four tell them that they have the right stuff

943
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: for life. That the currency of high school, etc. Is

944
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: not the currency of life. There are many more years

945
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: after six years of junior high and high school. And

946
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: I read it last week. I'm going to save it.

947
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to, with your permission, play this interview in

948
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: a few months. Nothing's going to change by between now

949
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: and then. But the book is out. It's called Born Lucky.

950
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: The picture on the cover is enough to get one

951
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: to read it and to pass it around. Leland VETTERTI

952
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: watch many nights on News Nation, and it's amazing your life.

953
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: The most amazing part of you as your mom and dad.

954
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: But Leland, we got to run once again. We'll do

955
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: it again. And God bless you and thank you. Give

956
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: a big hug to your dad and a kiss for

957
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: your mother for me, because they're very very special people.

958
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: There will be in the arms of God Almighty they will. Bill,

959
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, God bless you. Leland Fitter News Nation, Wow,

960
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: what a story. Get the book Born Lucky, Bill Cunningham

961
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

962
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 8: What's clear is that the Democrats' actions account to an

963
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 8: intentional sabotage of our country and our people by shutting

964
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 8: down our government. This madness must end. President Trump and

965
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 8: Republicans are calling on Democrats to reopen the government immediately

966
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 8: on behalf of the American public.

967
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 5: All we need are five.

968
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 8: Democrat senators to do the right thing and to stop

969
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 8: this shutdown. Call your Democrat senator and tell them to

970
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 8: vote yes to reopen the government.

971
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Speaker 1: He hello, by it and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting segment.

972
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: I have a report here from the family.

973
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 7: Uh huh.

974
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: I often reference a man named Gordon Veterino. Yes, and

975
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: he was my first coach of great significance, legendary sportsman yes,

976
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: and I always reference Gordon Veterino when it comes to

977
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: the fundamentals of football, basketball, or baseball. Correct. And he's

978
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: going to turn ninety years old on Tuesday of next week. Okay,

979
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Speaker 1: I want you to clear out one thirty pm Tuesday,

980
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: October the seventh. He'll be here. I am told by

981
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: his entourage that Gordon Veterino, who I often reference, will

982
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: be here Tuesday at one thirty to celebrate his ninetieth Thursday.

983
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: How about that? So write that down right? You got?

984
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: How about that? Will?

985
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: Now?

986
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: Secondly, yeah, I put this on my ex account. I

987
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: want to get your reaction. Okay, so far I've gotten

988
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: about twenty five thousand. This is what I said last

989
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: night late. In a way, the Reds don't have a

990
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: settled position player other than at the catcher position. But

991
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Clain needs to earn his position at second, Ellie needs

992
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: to switch to the outfield, Hayes at third over Sal,

993
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so. First base? Who knows freedom and center?

994
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: So the Reds trade Green? So next year, who's the

995
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: Reds first baseman? My point? How about second base? I

996
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: guess Matt McLean and South Stewart will be there. Who's it? Short.

997
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: If Ellie's out in the outfield, who's it short?

998
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

999
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 6: You got you know Edwin Warrios. They got more shortstops

1000
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 6: than who's at third at anybody well could have You

1001
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 6: could be keyth Brian Hayes and South Stewart.

1002
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 1: All right, but you don't know. I don't know who's

1003
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: in left.

1004
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 6: The only guy that knows is probably Terry Francona.

1005
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: Not as funny as my name.

1006
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 5: Sebastian didn't.

1007
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 6: Yes, on the Saint Louis.

1008
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: He we have who's on first? What's on second? I

1009
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: don't know he's on third. That's what I want to

1010
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: find out. I want you to tell you name fellows name.

1011
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you who's.

1012
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: On first, what's on second?

1013
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't know it's on third?

1014
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: You know the fellow's names?

1015
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 6: Yes?

1016
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: Well, then who's playing first?

1017
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1018
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean the fellow's name on first base? The fellow

1019
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: player first base for Saint Louis? Who the guy on

1020
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: first base?

1021
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: Who is on first?

1022
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: His names?

1023
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 3: Who?

1024
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: What he asking me for? I'm not asking you.

1025
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: I ain't telling you who is on first.

1026
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm asking you who's on first. That's the man's name,

1027
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: that's whose name?

1028
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: Yes, we didn't tell.

1029
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: Me who the guy on first?

1030
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 5: The first base?

1031
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 3: Who is on first?

1032
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: How you got a first basement on first?

1033
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: Seven? Rate?

1034
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 5: Then who's playing first?

1035
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

1036
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 5: Now?

1037
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: Who's on first? That's what I'm saying. Who's in sal?

1038
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: I don't know? It's the year? No his names? Who

1039
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: and McClain? Did he earn second base this year? That's

1040
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: what's his name? How about short stop? I don't know?

1041
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Fifty fifty errors in two seasons? Who's on I think

1042
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: Sounds at third? Or Hayes? Who's in left?

1043
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 5: He?

1044
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: Steve?

1045
00:52:55,160 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: Who's in left? Anybody who's in center? Anything? Maybe free

1046
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: Swarmer center.

1047
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 6: And Alonso at first? Maybe they're going to really open

1048
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 6: the books?

1049
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: Who's in right?

1050
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

1051
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Marte? Playoff?

1052
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 6: So well, you're gonna have Freedol and center? I think

1053
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 6: he gotta I said, and Catcher.

1054
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: Other than that, well, then it's up for g who

1055
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't know and so what I have no idea.

1056
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's out in left field? Well, who's

1057
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: gonna make this decisions? He's at first? Who's at first?

1058
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: He?

1059
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: Who? Who? Who is it first? I don't know? That's

1060
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: why is gonna be here to tell me what the

1061
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: hell is going on? In this place, and so the.

1062
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 6: Rest of that guy off team, that guy's the bench coach, that.

1063
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: They're a playoff team. And we can't name who's the starter. Oh,

1064
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: he's in first, center, and catcher Stevenson and Trevino I guess,

1065
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: But then pitchers, I don't know. I don't know who's pitching.

1066
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 6: Well, you got Green, Lodolo's trade them both Burns, Rett,

1067
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 6: Rhett Louder. You got singer at six of them right there?

1068
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: Why not try the gun? You get something for Green?

1069
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: The bullpens. Bullpen's not bad. I'm saying, you know, I'm glad.

1070
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad in the sense Tito is here because he

1071
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: knows when the bodies.

1072
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 6: Are very correct, and he'll be fine. Don't don't worry.

1073
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 6: He'll figure settle team. Is it unsettled?

1074
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I think he's a third

1075
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: he will. Yeah, I don't know.

1076
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 6: He's the third catcher. I think I'm in the state

1077
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 6: of shock. No, he's in the center field.

1078
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: Who's in right? Marte's the right field who's at first?

1079
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't start because he's not hitting the i'bout you

1080
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: in the playoff game, you don't start Marte and he's

1081
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: supposedly the right fielder. He doesn't start. I don't know

1082
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: what to tell you.

1083
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 6: I think he's the bench coach. Will heave the student

1084
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,480
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Speaker 1: Four, four, four forty four or oh one spot. Thank you, Roxy.

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Speaker 6: We also want to thank Lear's Prime Market for our

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00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 6: lunch today. Full catering Service Deluxe Delhi located in beautiful

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00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 6: downtown Milford, Learsprime dot Com.

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00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: Lear's Prime always cut above. And what about the Salakrock

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00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: cookies too? You forgot about those the South Crown, imagine them?

1093
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: And what about gold Star? You forgot about gold Star

1094
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: and the David.

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00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 6: Family You just mentioned it And then we got Jen

1096
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 6: Motley's Chicken Jilli in there.

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00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: That's why you look the way you look.

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00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 6: Bengals Update, Willy brought to you my good spirits and

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00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 6: party town with thirteen locations in northern Kentucky. We may

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00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 6: have to go there later on today. Bengals and Lions

1101
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 6: Sunday and pay Corp Stadium for twenty five kickoff you

1102
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 6: know where I'll be tonight, pay Corpse Stadium. I'll be

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00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 6: at the Pitt Really, yes, Moehler, Elder and Willie's gonna

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00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 6: be there.

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00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: I've been asked to address them all or football team.

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00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: You wait a minute.

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00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 6: I don't worst Barret Cohen when you need him, because

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00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 6: I don't know they want to do that. Because look

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00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 6: what happened to Madera. You did when Madera played the

1110
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 6: Park last week?

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00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: Well, I got Johnny Crapp was thirty five nothing, twenty

1112
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: four to nothing. Wasn't that close enough? Wasn't that bad?

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00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 6: Best Bengals coverage Sunday nine am with the RNL Carriers

1114
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 6: pregame Sports Talk presented by Cincinnati Northern Kentucky Toyota Dealers

1115
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 6: Live from the Holy Trail, Live, talk about it with

1116
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 6: a Chickster and everybody on the Tri State Chevy Dealers

1117
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 6: post game show presented by RNL Carriers, and then got

1118
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 6: to be live at Buffalo Wings and Rings and Cresview

1119
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 6: Hills Keep Hope Alive segment. Let's see Keep Hope Alive.

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00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 6: High School football tonight. Willie, what about dr Park? I'll

1121
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 6: action across the Tri State High school football tonight at six,

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00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 6: ESPN fifteen thirty, Fox Sports thirteen sixty that rolls into

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00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 6: the game between Louisville Trinity and Saint X.

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm taking Louisville Trinity. You're gonna have Saint.

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00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 6: X also tonight as Moeller and Elder. As you said,

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 6: I'm taking the Mighty Minimo. Lakota West at Cole Range,

1127
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 6: I'm taking Tom Bolden Middletown hosting Lakota East. I'm taking

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00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 6: Kyle Schwarber, Marymont v the Park. I'm taking the park.

1129
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 6: They're gonna rebound. Nifferd Stadium sold out tomorrow for Big

1130
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 6: twelve action his fourteenth ranked Iowa State. The Cyclones come

1131
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 6: to town to face off our beloved Bearcats. Eleven AM Cyclones

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00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 6: in there a hockey team, No, it's Iowa State Cyclones.

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00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 6: Also tomorrow, the Cats and the Dogs go out at

1134
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 6: noon on ESPN fifteen thirty to about Kentucky and Georgia.

1135
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 6: Miami opens MAC play in Northern Illinois Minnesota v. Number

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00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 6: one Ohio State.

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00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: I got a text here from Pete Whittie. I'm begging

1138
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: you to speak to Malor before the game. Pete witting

1139
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: if you already picking Moeler, I'm picking them. I'm picking

1140
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: them to you, they're gonna take the Panthers down. Let's

1141
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: see in the pit.

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00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 6: Uh Dante Corleona according to reports, Well, he's gonna play

1143
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 6: tomorrow for U. See Wis is probably big defensive, defensive

1144
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 6: lively to us the last two.

1145
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: Games with injury.

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00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 6: It's like Aaron Donald, Shamar Stewart is out Sunday for

1147
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 6: the Bengals ankle, Noah Fan is back Bengals, and Charlie

1148
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 6: Jones with an achilles, he's questionable. What about Joe Burrow,

1149
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 6: He's not gonna Well, he's not gonna be there. I

1150
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 6: guess maybe he's maybe he's gonna be there. He ought

1151
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 6: to be on the sidelines. Do you have any hope?

1152
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: Baseball?

1153
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 6: The best of five Division series begins tomorrow, four games,

1154
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 6: Cubs and Brewers at two.

1155
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: I like the Cubs.

1156
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 6: Yankees in Toronto at four. I don't like either team.

1157
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 6: Dodgers and Phillies at six thirty. I'll take the Phillies

1158
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 6: because of Kyle Schwarber. Tigers at the Mariners at eight thirty.

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00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 6: I don't like the Mariners.

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: Who cares?

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00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 6: I don't like Detroit, okay, and also Willy coming up

1162
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 6: this weekend a lot of activities, but Indiana's oldest festival

1163
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 6: is this weekend. The one hundred and sixteenth Annual Aurora

1164
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 6: for Farmers Fair, takes place on the streets a beautiful Aurora, Indiana.

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00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: Many times as a famous restaurant right there on the left,

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: that's correct. What is that name of that ring? Willi's

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: of Hidden Valley? I don't think so. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it is. But segment, these are difficult times. The

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00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: Reds have big decisions to make, and I believe the

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00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: Reds can be better next year.

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00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe? I believe? Do you believe?

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00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 6: As long as I believe, as long as they got

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00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 6: you know who they're managing, I'm gonna believe.

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00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: I believe that we will win. I believe that we

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: will win. Do you agree or not?

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00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

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00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 6: Now, who's it first? Who's at second? No, he's at first,

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00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 6: Who's at third? He's at first, who's at short, He's

1180
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 6: at first?

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00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: And left?

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00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: Who's in right?

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00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: Now?

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00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 6: You can't play who to ample? Everywhere? We have crises everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Segment.

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00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to open up the money bass?

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00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

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00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber, what hit one hundred and ten home run.

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Speaker 6: I tell you one thing, if they him in that

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00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 6: band box, they would get Kyle Schwarber and the panda

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Speaker 6: and he stays healthy.

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00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: Now, what what will the cost?

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01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: Though?

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01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 6: The Reds might have to move it and get into

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Speaker 6: a new stadium Casteline. He's got a status. You know

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Speaker 6: what they're gonna do. They're going to move to pay Corps,

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Speaker 6: re arrange it in a sixty four thousand fans a night.

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Speaker 1: I think we're in a crisis segment. But what if

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Speaker 1: they get the polar Bear? Now, what about Judge Allison

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Speaker 1: Hathaway Ali freeing to kill again? An arm robber, eighteen

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Speaker 1: year old boy.

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Speaker 6: Something's got to be done, Willie? In this town, something,

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01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 6: something's got to be done. And what about the Diddy?

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Speaker 1: The Diddy? No, uh, no verdict? I say four years,

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Speaker 1: write that down, write that down, four years. Okay, say

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Speaker 1: get me out, exoo your will.

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Speaker 6: You and honor a beautiful day here in the tri State.

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Speaker 6: We leave you with the immortal words of the stood.

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Speaker 5: At some point, the foolishness has got to stop.

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Speaker 1: He's talking to the city of Cincinnati, who refused to

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Speaker 1: accept his help. On news radio seven hundred w L

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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American all of high school football

1213
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: happening tonight. Yours truly will be at the pit to

1214
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Speaker 1: celebrate the defeat of my elder at the HANSO. Muller

1215
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: High School. That'll be in the pit. But until then,

1216
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: important matters are attending. You might recall we had a

1217
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: news story on this. I mentioned this about an hour

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01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: or so that eighteen year old Devon Markham, eighteen years old,

1219
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: is charged with murdering a sixteen year old about two

1220
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,479
Speaker 1: weeks ago. The kid's name that was murdered is TJ. Bill.

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Speaker 1: And previous to that, mister Markham, eighteen years old, had

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01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: numerous felony convictions through juvenile court, had committed another offense

1223
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: as an adult put on probation by my friend, Judge

1224
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: Allison Hathaway, Ali formerly of our newsroom, put him on

1225
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Speaker 1: probation on condition that this defendant, how about these ideas

1226
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: get a job, secondly enrolling a behavior modification program, and

1227
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: thirdly report to your po Guess what he did none

1228
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Speaker 1: of it. Didn't get a job, didn't report to his

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01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: probation officer, didn't have behavior modification. If he did, it

1230
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: resulted in the murder of a sixteen year old. Now

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01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: he's charged again and again and again. Joining you and

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Speaker 1: I now is Steve Gooden, who's been on city council

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Speaker 1: and attorney in Cincinnati. And Steve Gooden, welcome again to

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham showing Steve, how do you react to

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01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: this most recent outrage out of common Police Court. I

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Speaker 1: would add that Judge Josh Berkele, which joined me yesterday,

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: a sitting judge been there ten years, who rang the

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01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 1: bell saying something's wrong down here in the courthouse. Half

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01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: the judges are more will not put people in jail

1240
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Speaker 1: because of restorative justice, because of white supremacy, white privilege,

1241
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: all this crap. And now this TJ. Bell is dead

1242
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: because Judge Hathaway ordered him to do certain things. He

1243
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: didn't do it and didn't get violated, and now another

1244
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 1: kid is dead. On top of what happened last night.

1245
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: Last night, as you may know, a twelve and fifteen

1246
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: year old were shot at Grand Park. There's a question

1247
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: in there, Summer answering.

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01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 3: Well, the answer is that we need desperate change. And

1249
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 3: thank you for calling attention to these issues, because this

1250
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 3: is kind of the news. A lot of people seem

1251
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 3: to lose right now, no one wants to talk about

1252
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: this in the city, at city Hall or in the courthouse.

1253
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's happening in both places. City Hall has

1254
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 3: underfunded the police department in a serial manner for over

1255
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 3: a dozen years, and we're seeing it in the lack

1256
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 3: of walk and patrols and the lack of basic enforcement.

1257
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: And then you've got the courthouse where there are judges

1258
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: who are acting clearly out of some sort of progressive

1259
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 3: ideology and not looking at these cases based upon the facts.

1260
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: And the end result is a community that is not safe.

1261
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 3: And I'm very aware of the Grand Park situation. Me

1262
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 3: and Reverend Peterson Mingo have been down there many many times.

1263
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: He's part of that God Squad group. He goes down

1264
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: there when there were shootings. There have been over eighteen

1265
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 3: homicides there in the past five years in that one

1266
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 3: park alone in northern over the Rhine. It is a tragedy,

1267
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: and these are preventable tragedies in the old days, back

1268
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 3: you know, when I was in the prosecutor's office and

1269
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: we had a different kind of judge there at common

1270
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: sense judges Democrats and Republicans alike. By they note people

1271
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 3: got locked up if they were caught with guns, they

1272
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: were held on high bonds, they were not given probation.

1273
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: They didn't wait around for them to shoot someone. If

1274
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: you're running around with drugs and guns, you need to

1275
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: be taken off the streets and not all this handwringing

1276
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 3: and all this talk of restorative justice and etc. So

1277
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 3: we know what needs to happen. But our mayor handpicked

1278
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 3: this bench. He handpicked the city council at Lands right

1279
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 3: at his doorstep.

1280
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: In my opinion, well, the other thing is having recognized.

1281
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: I was told the mayor had some bad pulling about

1282
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: a month ago. Maybe Corey Bowman is going to have

1283
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: an impact. Maybe you're going to have impact. Chris Metheran,

1284
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: Lendon Matthews may have an impact. So he decided to reluctantly,

1285
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: reluctantly accept the offer of the governor to do certain things.

1286
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: And so you know, Mike and I have been friends

1287
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: for a long time, and he told me on and

1288
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: off the air that I'm kind of surprised the Mayor's

1289
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: not asked for our help. Finally, after some bad pulling,

1290
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: the mayor got a hold of the governor. Mike came down.

1291
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: You had the FBI was there the atf was there,

1292
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: the Marshall Service was there. One council member was there,

1293
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: Mika Owens, you had, the prosecutor's office was there, The

1294
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: sheriff was there. Every one agreed, Okay, the adults are

1295
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: coming in. We're gonna do this, do that. We're gonna

1296
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: have the Highwood Patrol is gonna be here. We're gonna

1297
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: be out in front of bars and restaurants. We can

1298
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: pick out those with guns going into it, liquorstale and

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Speaker 1: all this circus act went on. We found out a

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Speaker 1: week or two later that the memorandum of understanding dealt

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01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: with two shifts a month, and now last week got

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: checked with the police. So far there's been zero, zero,

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01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: highwad patrol involvement. None. It was all nothing. It was

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01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: sound and fury signified nothing, as Shakespeare would say. And

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01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: so it's that way because the so called President pro

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01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: tem of the City Council of Victoria Parks, the Vice

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01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: Mayor lemon Kearney and Scottie Johnson, the Controls Council completely

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01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: said we don't want cops here. It's a bad look

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01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: to have highway patrolmen here, as if we can't do

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Speaker 1: our job, and so as we sit here now in

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01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: the first week in October, early voting is starting, and

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01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we have once again this rash

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01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: of shootings forty percent increase. The ones getting killed are

1314
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: are the children of Democratic voters? Do they understand that

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01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: their policies caused the death of their own community?

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Speaker 3: You know what? This is the rare year where I

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01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 3: think it's breaking through. Okay, I just spent last night

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Speaker 3: down at the bond Hill Community Council and I, you know,

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 3: I blatantly and openly said, hey, this. You know a

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01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 3: lot of these problems lay at the Mayor's feet. The

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: city is more violent, it is more lawless, it is

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01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 3: it is more dangerous, It is tougher to live in

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01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: than it was four years ago. And that goes right

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Speaker 3: to him. And I got a round of applause there

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Speaker 3: in bond Hill, and that was pretty much. I'm a

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Speaker 3: jaw on all African American audience. I do think people

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01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: are tired of it. You know, I'm a middle aged

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01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 3: white guy and a grumpy one at that, and I

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 3: but I think people are want honesty. They know these

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01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: statistics they're hearing from city Hall aren't true. The Mayor's

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: credibility right now is absolutely zero. And we the surest

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01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: sign we know we're breaking through is he's shooting at

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: people like me directly. You know. We shoot a statement

1334
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 3: this week saying I was unqualified to be on city

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01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: Council and lack compassion and things of that nature, which

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01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: as I said that I am, I actually posted. I

1337
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 3: put out a release about that this morning, say I

1338
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: accept his non endorsement without qualification with great pride. I

1339
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 3: accept it. It's all politics, it's all optics, it's all

1340
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: playing with the numbers. Anybody who's on these streets knows

1341
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: what's happening. The homeless situations out of control. Our streets

1342
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: are a mess, and the violence of occurs at nights

1343
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 3: at night in many of these neighborhoods. It's beyond the

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01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 3: police's ability to deal with that. They don't have the

1345
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: personnel to do anything with it right now, and it's

1346
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 3: just an absolute tragedy. People are losing their lives, and

1347
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 3: I think that is breaking through. I mean, it's kind

1348
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 3: of a you know, it's like the old Grauto mark saying,

1349
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 3: who are going to believe me? Or your lying eyes?

1350
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 3: People know that what they're hearing from city Hall and

1351
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 3: what they're hearing from the courts isn't true. And that

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 3: is the moment, and that is the problem that he's

1353
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 3: got to deal with right now. Is that nobody that

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01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 3: I know of in who were involved at any kind

1355
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,839
Speaker 3: of street level action here in the city, the community

1356
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: volunteers and many councils. Nobody believes a word he says

1357
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 3: anymore about the violence. They see it with their own eyes.

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Speaker 1: You know what's troublesome for me, Scottie Johnson has been

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: a cop for like twenty five years. Or throw in

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01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: lemon Kearney, who went to Harvard Law School. Of course,

1361
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: Victoria Parks who said Holly wanted to get beat down,

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01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: there's a different category. She's not running again. But they're

1363
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: telling the mayor that if you invite in the Highway

1364
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: Patrol and the FBI, the ATF, god knows who else

1365
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: to crack down on crime, it makes us look bad

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01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: and the black community doesn't want it. Lemon Kearney speaks

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01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: for the black community. She's the mayor in waiting. She's

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01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: waiting for ft F Pirival to move on to do

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01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: something else, which surely he will soon. That she wants

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: to be the mayor. And so until lemon Kearney, Victoria Parks,

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Speaker 1: until Scottie Johnson actually say you know, we need help,

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Speaker 1: nothing's going to occur. And I would point out that

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01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: there's twenty percent fewer police in Cincinnati than we need,

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Speaker 1: then we should have. Well, when police are down twenty percent,

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01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: crime better be down at least twenty percent, because that

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: means cops aren't arresting people because cops don't exist to

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: arrest them. You know what I'm saying. It's rather a

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01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: circuitoust argument that because the crime is down, we don't

1379
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: need police. Well, the reason crime is down, then criminals

1380
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: are not being arrested because cops don't exist to arrest them.

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: I know exactly what you're saying. And actually my anger

1383
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 3: is that some of the different council numbers even worse.

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: We have what I would call the white council members,

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 3: the Mark Jefferies, the Seth Walsh is those people who

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: Jeff krammerting. They go to these events and they talk

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01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 3: tough on crime, and then they go to city Hall

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01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: and they go along with all this stuff. They sit

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01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: on their hands and the stuff they have spent upwards

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01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: of ten million dollars over the last two years on

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01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 3: so called violence production efforts that have included things like

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01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: urban gardening, dance lessons, three sandwiches at bus stops. Actually

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01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 3: tried to get one of those the other day at

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Speaker 3: Government Square. They wouldn't give it to me. My other

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01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: favorite is kayaks on the Mill Creek. Like ten million dollars,

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01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: the amount of police overtime they could have hired. They

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01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 3: could have hired half a recruit class with that money

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01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 3: and including benefits over the course of the last two years.

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Speaker 3: Not serious people, what they're doing. I mean the money

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01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 3: they do have to put it these efforts, they just

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01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: waste on these weird pet projects. Anyone who wants to

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01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: kayak should be able to get their own kayak. It's

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: just beside the point. It's disgraceful and I don't and

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: it's just they're not listening to what the community is saying,

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01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: white or black. They're just not listening. You know.

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01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: I saved this story about a year ago lemon Kearney.

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: It was voted in the council by a nine to

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01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: zero vote. It's called the Ambassador program, and this story

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01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: says that if you're an arm robber. If you commit crime,

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: they have money for you. They will pay you about

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01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a month on condition that you don't

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01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: commit any more crime, and they'll give you they'll give

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01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 1: you vouchers to travel around the country to look elsewhere,

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01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: to see what's happening in other parts of other parts

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01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: of the world. This is called the Criminals Criminals Behave.

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 1: City Council is poised to put three hundred thousand dollars

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01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 1: toward a gun violent reduction program that will have active

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: firearm offenders get away from the street life. We'll give

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: you a monthly stipend, travel, job, training, therapy and more

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01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: as part of a sixty five million dollar spending plan,

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01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: including dance lessons and kayaking. And so, if you commit crime,

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01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 1: we're going to pay you not to commit more crime

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01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: and teach you how to paddle on the Little Miami River.

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01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: Now there's a good use of our money. Steve Gooden,

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01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 1: it's wonderful.

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 3: Well, I think they actually owe me several hundred thousand dollars.

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01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 3: I guess because I've never robbed anybody at gunpoint, I've

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01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 3: gotten nothing for that. I mean, the whole thing is

1429
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 3: just ludicrous. We know what a violence reduction, you know,

1430
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 3: plant looks like it's called like actually, you know, staffing

1431
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 3: the police and actually having judges right who put people

1432
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 3: away who have guns. I mean, that's the only thing

1433
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 3: that works. I mean, if you look at Cleveland, I

1434
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: never thought I would be citing Cleveland for anything. They

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 3: had a thirty percent reduction in homicides this year because

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01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 3: they increased their police force by almost thirty three percent

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01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: over the last two terms. Okay, I mean it's just

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01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 3: I mean you can see it. I mean, it doesn't matter.

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01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 3: I was in Columbus the other day for an higher

1440
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: state game. There are police everywhere. There isn't a visible

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01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 3: police presence. They have staffed their police department. I think.

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01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 3: Guess what, Columbus is growing? Okay, they are actually growing

1443
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 3: their population. I mean you have to understand, these are

1444
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 3: both democratic cities. But if you're going to have any

1445
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 3: kind of a city, you have to have policing, you

1446
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 3: have to have basic order and law and order on

1447
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: your streets. And also just I mean, not twenty minutes ago,

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 3: I was walking back from getting my hair cut at

1449
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: the wonderful Salzano Brothers on Fourth Street. If I'm me,

1450
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: note and I was walking down the street and there

1451
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 3: was a homeless guy there on Fourth Street by the

1452
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: atrim two were leieving himself on the side of the building.

1453
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 3: A woman came and grabbed him and accused him of

1454
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 3: stealing his cocaine. She grabbed him, he jumped mid stream.

1455
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: I had to jump back to avoid getting urine on

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01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 3: my shoes. I told him he needed to put that

1457
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: little thing away, and then the other homeless people came

1458
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 3: and gathered around me. For a moment, I thought, my god,

1459
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 3: I'm going to get into a fight. Here on Fourth

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01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: Street in the middle of the day was some coked

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01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 3: up homeless people, no police officers anywhere to be seen,

1462
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 3: and I was just this is the middle of a workday,

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,879
Speaker 3: on a Friday afternoon, in the middle of our business district.

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01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 3: That's the kind of stuff that's going on, and we

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01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 3: are not We don't have the police to actually walk

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 3: around twenty years ago, to be officers walking around all

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01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 3: over downtown.

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01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago, Cousty, a friend of mine, active and

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: big time law firm, had four other lawyers, three men

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01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: and a woman who came to Jeff Ruby Steakhouse and

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01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: it was like eight o'clock eight fifteen. They said, let's

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: walk down to the river. They won take They were

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01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: from Saint Louis. They walked down to the river, the

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01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: four of them. They were dressed nicely. They walked back.

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: They were jumped by six kids. And the sad part

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01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: about this was there was nothing stolen. They had some

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01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: cash on them, some credit cards. They simply got beat

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: up for the hell of it. And they beat up

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: these especially the three men who tried to defend the

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01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: female lawyer, and then one went to the hospital. Three

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01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: did not, and that's a typical occurrence, and they hit

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01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: nine to one one they got to the hospital. There

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01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: was no police report filed because three of them went

1484
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: to the hospital with the one that was really hurt

1485
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: and they spent the night in the hospital and then

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: went back to Saint Louis. So you have homeless pissing

1487
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: on the sides of building, arguments about cocaine. You have

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: individuals getting beat up in the city. Last night. There

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: were two individuals who were shot in the park, twelve

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01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: and fifteen year olds on mcmickon near Grant Park. I

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01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: think they're going to survive. And then you have Judge

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: Hathaway taking an armed eighteen year old on probation, who

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: didn't get a job as she ordered, didn't enroll in

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 1: behavior modification, didn't report to probation, who murdered sixteen year

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01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: old TJ. Bell two weeks ago, and now he's got

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01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: a million dollar bonds. So I'll say this, Steve Good.

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01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: If this is not the election, election I think starts

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01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: like next week absent here or whatever showing up to me.

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 1: If this time, with all this going on and all

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01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: the lies and depravities off city council, if this time

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01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 1: there's not a change, I would feel hopeless. Would you agree?

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01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 3: I agree, And frankly, I think if we don't have

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01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 3: serious change, we're going to have an exodus of people

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 3: from the city. And what you just described about these

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01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 3: people from Saint Louis, I hear this from folks all

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01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 3: the time, who you know, I'm a lawyer as well.

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Speaker 3: I have people coming in all the time from out

1508
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 3: of town who are staying downtown, you know, so they

1509
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 3: can go to their meetings and what have you. And

1510
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 3: the reports that they that they get back are uniformly

1511
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 3: you know, they're horrified. They don't feel safe, they don't

1512
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 3: want to go out, don't want to walk to the

1513
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 3: basic attractions. We have a beautiful river walk that people

1514
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 3: are afraid to go to.

1515
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen video. I wouldn't go there at night,

1516
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: no signal ninety nine. There's hundreds of kids wilding around

1517
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,839
Speaker 1: the riverfront and no one's ever picked up on curfew.

1518
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: The message is say you're eighteen, you got your ID

1519
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: and I don't have it with the hell I'm eighteen,

1520
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: good to go. Hundreds of kids are wilding on the

1521
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: streets of Cincinnati, and we're told by Lemon Coarney and

1522
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: others it's a safe place to be. It's a lie.

1523
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: And I think from Harvard she knows it's a lie.

1524
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: We got to run. Steve good and good luck to you.

1525
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: Good luck next time you get pissed on on Fourth Street.

1526
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you, I thank you Steve Gooden.

1527
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: Well this time make a difference. What do you think

1528
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: news coming up home of your Reds and Bengals. Who's

1529
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: radio seven hundred W.

1530
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 9: But he has that opportunity now to say this is

1531
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 9: a program that would serve the American people if it

1532
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 9: were not funded, because government would be more efficient and

1533
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 9: effective and that serves everyone. So they're going to make

1534
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 9: those decisions. Now, are they taking great pleasure in that?

1535
01:17:59,760 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 5: No?

1536
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 9: Is he trolling the Democrats? Yes, I mean yes, because

1537
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 9: that's what President Trump does. And people are having fun

1538
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 9: with this. But at the end of the day, the

1539
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 9: decisions are tough ones. The president takes no pleasure in this.

1540
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 9: But if you're if Chuck Schumber is going to give

1541
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 9: Donald Trump the opportunity to determine what the priorities are,

1542
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 9: He's going to exercise that opportunity.

1543
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 2: And that's where we are.

1544
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 9: So the effects are very serious on real people, real

1545
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 9: American book. We support federal employees who do a great

1546
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 9: job in all these different areas. But but what they're

1547
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 9: having trying to have fun with, trying to make light of,

1548
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 9: is to point out the absurdity of the Democrats position,

1549
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 9: and they're using memes and all the tools of social

1550
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 9: media to do that. Some people, uh, you know, find

1551
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 9: that entertaining. But at the end of the day, the

1552
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 9: decisions are hard ones, and I'm telling you they're not

1553
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 9: taking any pleasure in that.

1554
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 6: Hello, quiet, and I'm scos, I'm broadcasting.

1555
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: You need to weigh in on all of these issues.

1556
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: I think been sentenced one you know, you know, how

1557
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: let's talk one at a time. He did. He's not

1558
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: been sentenced yet. Number two, the Senate has not voted yet.

1559
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: At number three, I want you to be involved in this.

1560
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the Senate SmackDown is live tonight at

1561
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 6: Heritage Bank Arena. That means that means that Cody Rhoades

1562
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 6: and the best of the wrestlers are here.

1563
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: I see them, Schumer and Johnson here there. Get him

1564
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: in there, you tag.

1565
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 6: Team him with a couple of guys, and whoever wins

1566
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 6: to shutdowns over?

1567
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: Where's the undertaker? What about the cane, the big red machine.

1568
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 3: Oh?

1569
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: At this point, we're in a crisis. Everywhere I look,

1570
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: I see total crises, confusion. The Reds have a good team,

1571
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: have no lineup. They have the wrong pieces in the

1572
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: incorrect locations. And I did get a text here from

1573
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: the PGA of America, huh about the Ryder Cup team

1574
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six in a year? Are you in it?

1575
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: Are you on it? It appears? Are you going to

1576
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 1: be the captain that the head golf coach at Roger

1577
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: Bacon High School? You want? Carucci Wow has been approached

1578
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: about coaching the Ryder Cup team and taking Tiery three

1579
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: of the players from Roger Bacon to play it.

1580
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 6: Keenan Bradley's likely out. How about this, He had about

1581
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 6: as much chance as I did in that.

1582
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday they played NCR South for the first time.

1583
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 6: They're in the state finals since nineteen forty one, Right

1584
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 6: I saw that there.

1585
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 1: That's been a while, correct, I would say so, yeah,

1586
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: that's been what eighty eighty four years? Yeah, Roger Bacon

1587
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: is in the finals of the golf because of Wayne Carucci.

1588
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 6: Well they get if they go all the way with

1589
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 6: Ted McKay, he'll be honored on the show.

1590
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: Well bring them in here. We only have state champions, correct, Correct?

1591
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 6: You gotta win and soon did Sean Diddy Combs is

1592
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,520
Speaker 6: going to address the courtroom.

1593
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: I mean, what are they doing in there? His lawyer

1594
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: says he wants to go home. Really, I don't think

1595
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. He wants to go home, just like

1596
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: the Crusher told that one guy, do the best you can. Like,

1597
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: Zach Schull says after another Reds loss Bengals lost, we

1598
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: simply have to play better. Would you agree? We simply

1599
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: have to play better?

1600
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 6: Zach will he the stood reporters of proud service of

1601
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Speaker 6: your local Tamestar Heating and air Conditioning dealers Thamestar quality

1602
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Speaker 6: you can feel in beautiful Northern Kentucky called Tom Reckton

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Speaker 6: Heating and Air Conditioning at eight five nine, two six,

1604
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Speaker 6: one eighty two sixty nine.

1605
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: Or there's no war? Is there not anymore? Go ahead?

1606
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: Bengals update?

1607
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 6: Will he brought to you my good spirits at Party

1608
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 6: Town with thirteen locations in Northern Kentucky Bengals and Lions

1609
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 6: Sunday Downtown for twenty five kickoff Bengals for the first time,

1610
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 6: and since twenty twenty are a double digit underdog at

1611
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 6: ten and a half points.

1612
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: So since twenty twenty, how about double digit underdog at home?

1613
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1614
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty best Bengals coverage with the Arnel Carriers in

1615
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 6: pregame sports Talk presented by Cincinnati Northern Kentucky Toyota Dealers

1616
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 6: live from the Holy Grail and then and then the

1617
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 6: Tri State Chevy Dealers post game show with a Chickster

1618
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 6: and his special Guests, presented by Rnel Carriers live from

1619
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Speaker 6: Buffalo Wings and Rings and beautiful Cresview Hills.

1620
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: So they're gonna break it down. Yes, they are good.

1621
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 6: Ken Anderson, Isaac Curtis and Leap and Lamar Parrish are

1622
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 6: among fifty two players in the seniors category selection process.

1623
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 6: Now for the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of

1624
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six.

1625
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson belongs in. Do you agree?

1626
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 3: Yes?

1627
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 6: I think all three of them want to go high

1628
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 6: school football all across the action, all across the tri state.

1629
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 6: Tonight High school Football Tonight show coverage at six, ESPN

1630
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

1631
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: You'll be at the pitt. I will be at the pit.

1632
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: I've been asked by Johnny Kraft, father Anthony browsh what

1633
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: what about Pete Diddy Witty? Pete Whitty wants me to

1634
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: did he? Mike Allen Junior wants me there. I will

1635
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: be at the pitt to uh give some excitement to

1636
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: the fans. That's why I'm Buehler and Elder.

1637
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 6: Lakota West at Cole Raine, Middletown host Lakota East, Marymont

1638
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 6: in the park.

1639
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: That's the big one right there. Rise dear Park got

1640
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: to recover from that beating administered by Jimmy Goulig's Madeira

1641
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: Mustangs twenty four nothing and that wasn't good segment.

1642
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 6: No Knippert Stadium, Willie sold out tomorrow for a big

1643
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 6: twelve action number fourteen Iowa State in town to take

1644
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 6: on the Bearcats. Really eleven am right here on seven

1645
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 6: hundred WLW.

1646
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: The Cyclones are favored by I think, is you see

1647
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: favored by three or.

1648
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1649
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 6: I got to check with draft MLS Soccer FC Cincinnati

1650
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 6: and New York Red Bulls tomorrow night at seven ESPN

1651
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty. The Orange of Blue guys still got a

1652
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 6: lot to play for. I bet the supporter shield. Remember

1653
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 6: we saw that last year here barely pick it up

1654
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 6: and then playoff seating Trail Philly by four points with

1655
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 6: two to go in the regular season.

1656
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: I mean this started, didn't whenn't?

1657
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 6: They started in February? So here we got over. They

1658
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 6: got a longer season than Nascar.

1659
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: They started the playoffs.

1660
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 6: Yet, no they're gonna I think the game seven of

1661
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 6: the play MLS Cup is on Christmas Day.

1662
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: Then they started again in January.

1663
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, Cyclones have announced it a long time forward. Justin

1664
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 6: five will return to the Clones this year. He's the

1665
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 6: all time leader in goals and games played, and he

1666
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 6: returns for his eleventh pro season at age thirty six.

1667
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: What about Paul Lawless? And we heard cyclones lawless? Is

1668
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: he lawless and.

1669
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 6: Gone down somewhere? I think he's still He was a

1670
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 6: good town. I got to connect up with him. Uh,

1671
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 6: they retired his number. It's in the it's in the

1672
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 6: it's in the.

1673
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: What number is it?

1674
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 6: You should know these things. Well, it's been a lot,

1675
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 6: that's a long time ago. I can't remember everything. Also,

1676
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,560
Speaker 6: while he yeah, looks like back to you see it

1677
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 6: looks like Dante Corleone is going to play tomorrow.

1678
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: He's missed the last couple of games.

1679
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 6: And we talked about Indiana's oldest festival this weekend. It's

1680
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 6: ongoing right now, one hundred and sixteenth Annual Aurora Aurora

1681
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 6: Farmer's Fair. It's on the streets a beautiful Aurora, Indiana.

1682
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 6: Third in main steakhouses. The place you were talking about.

1683
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: I've been there many times and many guys is but

1684
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: it was always me correct. So also we have the

1685
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: Sound Kraft Festival going. If you can't find something to

1686
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 1: do right now, something's wrong. Correct. Got to do something.

1687
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 6: And then I think next week the steamboats come to town.

1688
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, are some of them already here? Segment?

1689
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: It's Red's opening day, I said, March twenty sixth, Is

1690
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: that correct? One hundred and seventy three days away? Who's it? First?

1691
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: Let's say you have Kyle Swarver signing with the Reds

1692
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: on a five year, one hundred and fifty million dollars package.

1693
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 6: You put them at first, correct, it don't make it.

1694
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 6: He left, he can play, he can dh and play first.

1695
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: He wants to come here? Correct? I would say so, yes,

1696
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: what he said. Now. Secondly, he's already got a World

1697
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: Series ring, correct, right from twenty sixteen? The Cubs?

1698
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 3: Yep? Is that right?

1699
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: I think yeah? I think so. Now, who's at second base?

1700
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: Probably Matt McLean? Has he earned the position in your

1701
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: mind at this point?

1702
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1703
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: He's no, Well, he's not earned it. He's got a

1704
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: rebound from a tough season this year. Well, he didn't

1705
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: play last year, correct, and the season before that he

1706
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: didn't play after the third week in August. Right, So

1707
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: at some point he's got to arise. Oh yeah, to shortstop?

1708
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: Who's who knows who's at shortstop?

1709
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 3: We don't know?

1710
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: Well, what about Ellie? Does he belong in right field

1711
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: or left field, and what I would try him in

1712
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: the outfield and see what happens. Does Francona have the

1713
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: guts to pull that trigger over the objections of his agent,

1714
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:52,560
Speaker 1: Scott Boras.

1715
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1716
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: What do you say? Does he have the Girates?

1717
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 6: The Pirates put their big guy in center field, right,

1718
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,480
Speaker 6: so why not try him out?

1719
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 3: You have?

1720
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 6: You don't try him to say short stop? He could

1721
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 6: be a south Stewart, could be Edwin Arroyo. They still

1722
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 6: got Espinal what he just kind of faded away?

1723
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: So let's say you have a Royo at their base.

1724
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 6: Has got to be key Brian Hayes. Well, he's got

1725
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 6: the defense.

1726
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: How about south Stewart? Doesn't They're lacking a little bit

1727
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,440
Speaker 1: of defensive You don't. I just goes to the shortstop

1728
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: in the second base.

1729
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 6: Well, and then, like the Cowboys said, there may be

1730
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 6: some big changes coming.

1731
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what needs to happen. I think

1732
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Catcher is secured, Stevenson in Trevino at first base. I

1733
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: put Kyle Swarber. Do you agree? What if they signed

1734
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: the polar Bear put him at first Whoever, what's one

1735
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: of those two? I hope Kyle Schwarber. But Bear is

1736
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: a lot younger. That guy's at first second base, I

1737
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 1: stick with mc swain a little bit longer. At short stop,

1738
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I put a Royal. Is he any good? We'll find out.

1739
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: At third base, I put sal Stewart, and what about

1740
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart at third? He's hurt? You can't play. Then

1741
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: in left field, I put a steer centerfield. I put

1742
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: friedol right right field. Ellie Dela Cruze, well you can throw.

1743
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 6: You can put steer at first sometimes, and now Alanto

1744
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 6: Alonso be the d H. And then I trade you

1745
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 6: got some flexibility there. I trade Hunter Green, he signed

1746
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 6: through twenty twenty nine. Lodolo. I dingle him out there

1747
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 6: and say, do you like him or not? Get something

1748
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 6: for Nickolodolo? Trade him Undergreen, trade him You're still have

1749
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 6: pretty good starting pitching, and in the trade get three

1750
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 6: or four hammers who can play a position.

1751
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: To DH et c. The fact that we don't have

1752
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: a home run hitter and my ballpark, the Great American

1753
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: more than twenty two home run outrage and that ballpark right,

1754
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: are you kidding me?

1755
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 6: If they would sign Kyle Schwarber, he would personally remodel

1756
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 6: left field I think anywhere licking river, right.

1757
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.

1758
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 6: I think I think if Kyle, I think they're going

1759
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 6: to be people out on the river and kayaks Park

1760
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 6: in San Francisco, fun getting getting the home run balls

1761
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 6: in the in the river.

1762
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Look, he's got all the money he needs, come back home.

1763
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: He's from Middle Tucky. He loves Butler County. Here sign

1764
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: a five year, one hundred and fifty million dollar deal.

1765
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: Do you agree you get rid of Martinez? What do

1766
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: you make twenty milk? That was worthless? Well twenty one?

1767
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: I think get rid of that, right, he's not then

1768
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Hunter Green, get rid of that. See, let's play ball.

1769
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: And maybe the panda bears better than Kylee Swarber. He's

1770
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 1: eight years younger. Have you thought about that one? I

1771
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: don't know.

1772
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 6: I mean that's why Nick Crawl and Brad Meter and

1773
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 6: all the rest of them get the action.

1774
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: And I think Jeff Brandley has their ear, which is

1775
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: why Brantley said big changes are coming. What did he

1776
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 1: mean by that? Segments? Probably something's going to happen. They

1777
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: got to do something. I can recall when I coached

1778
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: of Bob crabl Crabs and DOUBABC. Once a year we

1779
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: would play Midland. We played Midland one year when they

1780
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: had two months later they won the national title. They

1781
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 1: won it all. They had a total of three losses,

1782
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,759
Speaker 1: and I have the game ball segment from that game.

1783
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: The Crable Crabs beat Midland to one. What in a

1784
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: short series, anything can happen. And I think the Reds

1785
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: against the Dodgers couldn't beat him in seven. But the

1786
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: way those games were played and the bad decisions made

1787
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: by Francona on the mound contributed to the loss. Now,

1788
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm not showing it would have made a difference, But

1789
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Sala story could be the real deal.

1790
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: I'll find out how good that guy. He's only twenty one.

1791
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: He can barely drink beer legally. So he's got to play,

1792
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: and Elie's got to. If we start next March twenty sixth,

1793
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 1: and Dela Cruise is still playing shortstop, that's a problem

1794
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: because you have to overwhelm with the player. Once Dave

1795
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 1: Parker could not play shortstop or first base. He was

1796
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: a catcher, believe it or not, a quarter tech, right,

1797
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: and he said, okay, I'm six foot five, I got

1798
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: an arm that can throw a ball through a brick wall.

1799
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play right field and be an All star.

1800
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Why can't that be Dela Cruz with his speed and

1801
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: his reach and his arm, he's a perfect right fielder. Right.

1802
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Are you with me on this or not?

1803
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

1804
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Speak up a little bit, like you got a pair.

1805
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 1: I said yes. Oh, you better say yes. And then

1806
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 1: you got to do something to shortstop. You got to

1807
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: have slick fielding. You can have a lack of offense

1808
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,440
Speaker 1: and production at shortstop as long as they're good fielders.

1809
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: What I do is have a good catcher, shortstop, second

1810
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: base and pitchers. Just like Gordon Veterino. You build up

1811
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: the middle. And many times I played both shortstop and

1812
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: second base at the same time, same time. That's how

1813
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 1: quick I was. How about that? So, like coach, you're

1814
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: going to be ninety years old October the seventh, been here,

1815
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: he will be here. Have you seen him? No? I

1816
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: haven't seen him myself in twenty years. But he's responsible

1817
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: as much as any other man for my great athletic prowess.

1818
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Saman give me out of the student's report.

1819
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 6: Wellie, we wish every one to have a happy weekend

1820
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 6: and a good weekend and a safe one.

1821
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: You can't find something to do this weekend, You're a clown.

1822
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: We leave you with the immortal words of the stud report.

1823
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 3: Next week's case handled by the highway patrol is a

1824
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 3: very exciting one. We hope you'll be with us until then.

1825
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 6: Remember the careless driver isn't driving his car, he's aiming it.

1826
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,799
Speaker 3: This is Roderick Crawford saying see you next week.

1827
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: And Roger Bacon High School is not driving the car.

1828
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: They're aiming on the state title and golf because of

1829
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 1: Wayne Carucci, I stayed titled in golf for Roger Bacon,

1830
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: who beat Saint X, beat Delakota, beat dr Park, they

1831
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: beat Elder to the best golfing team in the state

1832
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: because of men like Wayne Crouchy reached back to his

1833
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: old school and said, let me help, and over the

1834
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 1: three years she's developed a a golfing program that people

1835
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: are shocked and amazed about. You know what I'm saying, yep,

1836
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: all right, say we have about a minute. Romani, I'm

1837
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 1: gonna write it down right now. I'm gonna hold you

1838
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: to acoun. I'm gonna keep this right here, we go

1839
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: give me the final score Bengals the Lions. What is

1840
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 1: give it to me.

1841
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 6: I say the Bengals upset them twenty seven to twenty.

1842
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 1: Came Bengals win twenty seven? What do I say? I

1843
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: say Lions win, final score thirty five to ten. Now,

1844
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: whoever is closest wins a hot fud Sunday? Do you

1845
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: agree they get blown out for a third game?

1846
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 2: It could be.

1847
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Curtains well, but Zach Shulway after the game will say,

1848
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 1: we simply have got.

1849
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 6: To play better with the Green Bay Packers. We simply

1850
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 6: have got to play the lambeau Field. We simply have

1851
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 6: to play better. Frozen tundra, they're going there. I think

1852
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 6: it won't be frozen a week from Sunday, but it'll

1853
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,879
Speaker 6: be hot segment.

1854
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1855
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: Let's continue the more. Have a great weekend, watch high

1856
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 1: school football, go to the festivals, go to the Bengals game,

1857
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: get out and enjoy this because when it's minus fourteen

1858
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: degrees in January, you're going to miss these hot days

1859
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: in October on news Radio seven hundred WLW