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Speaker 2: What did you get?

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Speaker 3: Nothing? But I'm suing the company for religious discrimination? Did

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Speaker 1: By the way, No, because there's a Christmas tree in

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Speaker 2: Why do you bring an in?

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Speaker 3: It's not my job?

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Speaker 2: Well, who brought the Christmas tree?

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Speaker 1: Company should take care of me. I feel rattled because

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Speaker 3: There's no question about checking it. He's going to check it.

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Speaker 3: Kings dot com. Now here's the deal. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: By the time Anthony comes on the air five forty

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Speaker 1: are you pal doing great?

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Speaker 6: it's a shock for everyone. I fig at this point

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Speaker 4: Right now, what would you do, Mike, if you were

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Speaker 1: Well, Mike, before you go Mike Florial with us ProFootball

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Speaker 6: In a year from now, Well, Joe Son, you I'll

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Speaker 3: Wow, Jeez, holiday.

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Speaker 6: Mor big, that's another old reference. If you get that

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Speaker 1: I think you just now, I think you bring up

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Speaker 6: Listen, even if we got the reference, we wouldn't be friends.

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Speaker 6: It's funny because Joe Burrow had those comments last week

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Speaker 6: They didn't take the snow off the seats for crying

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Speaker 6: And I think what he's trying to do in a

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Speaker 6: this downward trajectory and he's not happy, you're never going

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Speaker 6: to get more for him than you're going to get

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Speaker 6: right now. So that's the way to do it. You

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Speaker 6: make them think, and how don't we all been in

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Speaker 6: one of those relationships where we really want out. But

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Speaker 6: it would be a lot easier if you can convince

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Speaker 6: the other person to be the one to end it,

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Speaker 6: like you know. I mean, I've probably had that trick

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Speaker 6: put on me a couple of times, but I know

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Speaker 6: I used it at least once, and it can be

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Speaker 6: very effective if you play it the right way. And

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Speaker 6: that may be what he's trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Mike Florio, great stuff, appreciate it. We'll see about next week.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it work something I'll do Tuesday. I'll be okay,

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Speaker 1: done Tuesday. We'll talk to you Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: You pay, you pay triple to rate holiday week holiday.

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Speaker 3: Give you a little holiday bonus, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a little extra matz of ball soup

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Speaker 1: with your Menora next week. Man, all right, great stuff, man,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the weekend seeing all right?

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Speaker 6: Guy, Yeah, guy, davidly Row.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do remember the reference we get as a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, check no, hang on, check out this.

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Speaker 3: You're like this rama. You know who that is. By

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Speaker 3: the way, that's you, Mike Florio with us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna break Mike McDonald Charles Cross bad news on

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Speaker 1: the Seahawk left tackle for tomorrow night Here from the

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Speaker 1: head coach. Next on ninety three three KJR FM from.

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Speaker 8: The R and R Foundation, specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back

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Speaker 8: to SOFTI and Dick on Your Home for the Huskies,

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Speaker 8: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, big big, big big. Did

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Speaker 1: I say big Wednesday? Right here on ninety three three

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Speaker 1: kJ r F M. I said big, big, big, big big.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm using that time. While I'm saying big, big,

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Speaker 1: big big, I have to figure out what day it is.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing figure out what day, giving myself

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Speaker 1: a chance. I mean, it feels like a Tuesday could

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Speaker 1: be a Thursday, What day Wednesday?

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Speaker 3: I actually I do that all the times. Very am

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Speaker 3: I the only one that does that?

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Speaker 2: Why don't they play that commercial anymore?

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Speaker 3: My camel's great, it's great.

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Speaker 1: I don't know I about the monkey with one Robotic

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Speaker 1: arm State Farm commercial? Remember that that played over and

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Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again. Is it

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Speaker 1: possible to get like Stockholm syndrome over radio commercials?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like you for Kids fall in Love with your Captor.

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Speaker 1: I have heard the Cars for Kids commercials so many

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Speaker 1: times now that I actually might enjoy.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like a it's a dose of comfort, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just familiarity.

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Speaker 2: You know, everything's okay when you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let me ask you a question. If you

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Speaker 3: got lost.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere and you finally found your way home and the

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Speaker 1: first thing you heard was the Cars for Kids commercial,

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Speaker 1: you'd be.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm home.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I've made it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's played so often. I've gone from

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Speaker 1: hating it to loving. Mike McDonald seahawk head coach, what's

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Speaker 1: going on with Charles Cross Tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Night against the l A Rams.

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Speaker 1: Here's the coach talking about the short week, and stay

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Speaker 1: tuned because he addresses the Charles Cross situation very quickly here.

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Speaker 9: Coming out of the last game, I think, and you

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Speaker 9: don't only have much time to do it. You know,

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Speaker 9: you're kind of turning the page pretty quickly. But the guy,

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Speaker 9: the guys know what we need to do and you

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Speaker 9: know how to do it. And I think, I think

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Speaker 9: that's the same feeling we have every week, honestly, just

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Speaker 9: trying to try and nail the process and doing what

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Speaker 9: we're doing and feel as prepared as we can.

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Speaker 7: Going into the game.

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Speaker 3: Mike House, Charles done.

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Speaker 9: He's actually I don't know, I don't have all the

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Speaker 9: updates for you, but he's he's not he's going to

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Speaker 9: be out to you know, tomorrow, So.

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Speaker 7: I don't have a time frame for you. We're working

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Speaker 7: through it.

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Speaker 10: For similar when you watch the last game you guys

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Speaker 10: played again, the Ramps, h there's the time between now

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Speaker 10: and then anything stand out to you, and reflecting on

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Speaker 10: that first game.

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Speaker 7: We disappointed.

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Speaker 9: My answer, I mean, I kind of just I think

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Speaker 9: I think we just take it very black and white,

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Speaker 9: like it's just you know, these are the plays that

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Speaker 9: we ran, this is how we played, and this is

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Speaker 9: what they did, and this is what they've done since,

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Speaker 9: and this is what we've done since.

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Speaker 7: And then you try to kind of up.

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Speaker 9: You kind of these are the guys that are available,

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Speaker 9: and we got a different you know, host of guys

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Speaker 9: that are available on both sides, and so you know,

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Speaker 9: you try to you try to make the best decision

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Speaker 9: you can on how you anticipate things going and things

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Speaker 9: that you want to you know, protect or attack or

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Speaker 9: you know that sort of thing. It's kind of you know,

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Speaker 9: you're it's a it's a four game sample since you played,

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Speaker 9: which is a little bit you know, it's.

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Speaker 7: You know, when you play teams the second time.

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Speaker 9: There's a different spectrum of like how long those games

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Speaker 9: are in between sometimes, like you know, we play the Niners,

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Speaker 9: the whole season's worth. You know, it's hard to go

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Speaker 9: off that tape, but there's a lot off that tape,

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Speaker 9: you know, within four games that is probably.

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Speaker 7: Probably relevant.

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Speaker 9: Josh Josh with Josh starts, Oh yeah's gonna start.

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Speaker 7: Let's be a neger qussion of what Josh has provided.

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Speaker 3: For you with he.

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Speaker 9: Was got most of his opportunities in in in preseason,

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Speaker 9: and he did a great job filling in for Charles

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Speaker 9: when he was going through uh his training camp stuff.

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Speaker 9: So it's just like everything else, you know, we've had,

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Speaker 9: We've had guys that have had to had that had

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Speaker 9: that have had opportunities throughout the season, and this is

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Speaker 9: this is no different. He's got a great opportunity, he's

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Speaker 9: prepared go out there and play your tail off.

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Speaker 7: You know, let's go roll the same answer the same question.

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Speaker 10: Has he primarily been practicing at left tackle or also

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Speaker 10: at right tackle.

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Speaker 7: All over the Yeah, and he's like he's swing tackle

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Speaker 7: right now. So Alwa's practice at both.

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Speaker 9: These short weeks always present major challenges, but it is

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Speaker 9: do you kind of relish the opportunity to go up

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Speaker 9: against somebody like Sean mcavay in this type of situation.

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Speaker 3: And then it has been so good over the years

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Speaker 3: about switching.

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Speaker 9: Things up, So I'm gonna get this question from now

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Speaker 9: until we uh, hopefully for a long time. It's just look,

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Speaker 9: it's the same there's I mean, Shawn's especially especially good

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Speaker 9: at what he does. He's one of the best to

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Speaker 9: do it, and if not the best.

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Speaker 7: And but there's a lot every court.

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Speaker 9: I mean, look that there's a lot of talented play

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Speaker 9: cards and a lot of talented schemes and a lot

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Speaker 9: of great players. And you see that every week, and

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Speaker 9: so every week has its own host of challenges that

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Speaker 9: you're trying to trying to work through as a football team,

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Speaker 9: you know.

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Speaker 7: So in that.

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Speaker 9: Regard, it's it's it's the same thing now, Like you know,

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Speaker 9: they have a certain way of operating and how things

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Speaker 9: that they play and how they build stuff and ways

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Speaker 9: that they attacked us in the past, and that's that's

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Speaker 9: the lens that you have to.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you got cut him off right there? Why not?

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Speaker 6: What the heck?

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Speaker 3: I mean, we got what we needed. Let's just get

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Speaker 3: the heck out.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Charles cross out tomorrow night, not gonna play. Josh

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Speaker 1: Jones will start in his place. If you look at

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Speaker 1: the geeks at PFF, they say he's a much better

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Speaker 1: pass blocker than he is a run blocker.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, guys, let's face it, this is a

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Speaker 3: blow right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, We're talking about not having your

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Speaker 1: starting left tackle, for God's sakes, versus a guy in

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones who was taking fifty six snaps the entire

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Speaker 1: season at that position, so against that defensive front. There's

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Speaker 1: no way to sugarcoat this and no way to paint

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Speaker 1: this as a positive. They're gonna have to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: This is why Clint Kubiak gets paid the amount of

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Speaker 1: money he gets paid. It's why Sam Darnold's making thirty

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Speaker 1: five million bucks a year. It's why Kenny Walker and

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Speaker 1: Zach Charboney are here to go out and run the

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Speaker 1: football and maybe go away from that side potentially. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is and the words are rich more

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Speaker 1: not good that Charles crosses out in this game tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: And no, I mean I we had grays Abel out

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Speaker 4: last game. He got injured in the Rams game, so

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Speaker 4: he started the Rams thin. So you have had a

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Speaker 4: stud offensive lineman out for a good chunk of a

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Speaker 4: game against Los Angeles, but it just it continues to

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Speaker 4: push me towards winner gets to twenty points. Man, I

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Speaker 4: mean the last game was twenty one to nineteen. I

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Speaker 4: really don't understand why the over under and this is

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Speaker 4: forty five forty five and a half. I mean, unless

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Speaker 4: you get under, let's you get a defensive touchdown like

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Speaker 4: what is without DeVante Adams For the Rams without Charles Cross,

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Speaker 4: neither team should be able to run the ball very

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Speaker 4: well against the other team's defense, Like why should we

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Speaker 4: expect the team's gonna get to twenty seven well?

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Speaker 1: And also, to me real quick, I know if to

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Speaker 1: break here just reinforces my thoughts on what the Rams

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Speaker 1: are going to do defensively. I don't think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a surprise to Clint Kubiak and Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: when they just come right at him and get in

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Speaker 1: his face like they did in Game one, and go

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Speaker 1: right at Josh Jones and go right at Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: and force him into fumbling the ball, throwing picks and

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Speaker 1: making mistakes. So I was on a mark today on

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Speaker 1: his show, and I just said, look, man, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people go on the air and they'll

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Speaker 1: try to break this down. I mean, there's only one

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Speaker 1: guy that can really do that, and that's Hugh Millen

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Speaker 1: by the way. But you know, depending on the you know,

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Speaker 1: twelve personnel the Rams play or the Seahawks play against

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Speaker 1: the nickel package of the Seahawks defense. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you got a guy in Sam Darnold who threw four

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Speaker 1: interceptions in the first game and they were sixty one

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Speaker 1: yards away from winning the game on a field goal

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Speaker 1: by Jason Myers. So first, let's take care of the ball,

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Speaker 1: all right, don't do that. Okay, if you're Sam, dude,

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Speaker 1: you're making thirty five million.

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Speaker 3: Enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's waiting for you to fart your pants off in

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Speaker 1: a big game like tomorrow night.

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Speaker 3: Prove them wrong. Don't turn the ball over, and the

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Speaker 3: Hawks should win this game. Tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: We're going to break a little fun with audio slash

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Speaker 1: hated you hear that maybe coming up on ninety three

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Speaker 3: It's now time for something in Dick's Fun with Audio.

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Speaker 7: Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo.

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Speaker 3: Now let's have some fun with audio.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go on a busy, busy, busy See,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it busy Wednesday, he day, busy day. Right

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Speaker 1: here on ninety three three kg RFM. Petros Paparack that's

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Speaker 1: gonna join us, coming up at four o'clock this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: First time we've had him on since the Sharon More

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Speaker 1: thing came down as a matter of fact last week.

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Speaker 1: So his thoughts on all of that and more coming up,

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's future in Vegas. Petros joining us courtesy of

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Speaker 1: Sweet James in about twelve minutes from now. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go a little fun with audio slash. Hey

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Speaker 1: did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen to

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Speaker 1: hear that?

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Speaker 2: What's that day?

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Speaker 4: Here's that?

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Speaker 3: Dick? On first take today.

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Speaker 1: Following the next big NBA Cup victory, Chris mad Dog

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Speaker 1: Russo had this to say to Nick fans, including Steven A. Smith,

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Speaker 1: that we're celebrating the win as a meaningful, significant piece

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Speaker 1: of hardware.

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Speaker 11: Somewhere Watt Fraser and let Red and Red Holtzman are saying, really,

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Speaker 11: we're gonna celebrate this stupid thing, this inauthentic creation to

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Speaker 11: jazz up the regular season, which means absolutely nothing in

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Speaker 11: a big picture, and we're gonna celebrate this hats and

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Speaker 11: batters a challenge. This is like the World Baseball Classic,

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Speaker 11: which I've always killed by the way I did with

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Speaker 11: Otani and Trout.

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Speaker 3: So I'm consistent.

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Speaker 11: This is stupid, This is this is not authentic, and

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Speaker 11: you're gonna sit there and tell me that this is

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Speaker 11: something significant. I fabricated event when Wimbyama play twenty minutes,

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Speaker 11: I mean, are we gonna do this now?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you must keep kidding me.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, first of all, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: comparable at all to the World Baseball Classic. The World

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Speaker 1: Baseball Classic is an international tournament that is basically the

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Speaker 1: Olympics of baseball, and the players love it. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: is not the NBA Cup. It's two totally different things.

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Speaker 1: But having said that.

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Speaker 3: I agree with them.

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Speaker 1: I don't see any real significance of the NBA Cup.

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Speaker 1: But I'm also fifty two years old and this is

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Speaker 1: brand new to me. Right, Like some ten year old

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Speaker 1: kid or six year old kid, Dick, all they do

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Speaker 1: is grow up with the NBA Cup. Maybe one day

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Speaker 1: they'll think it's awesome, and if it gets people to

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Speaker 1: engage in the NBA, and it gets players to give

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Speaker 1: a damn about games in December, then.

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Speaker 4: I don't know whatever it's getting people a to talk

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Speaker 4: about games in December, right, it is getting superstars to

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Speaker 4: play games in decision.

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Speaker 3: Which is ridiculous that you have to do. That is true, That.

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Speaker 4: Is true, ridiculous. They played their stars the whole game.

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Speaker 4: What stupid comment by mad Dog about Wemby. Does he

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Speaker 4: not realize he's two games off an injury. He played

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Speaker 4: twenty one minutes against Oklahoma City on Saturday, he played

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Speaker 4: twenty five minutes against the next That's as much as

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Speaker 4: he was going to play.

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Speaker 3: And his grandmother died by the way.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, what ridiculous comment by mad Dog to

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Speaker 4: bring up minutes.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: I think, well, first of all, I think if it

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Speaker 1: was a significant tournament like the NBA Playoffs, is there

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Speaker 1: a better chance than not that Wemby is sucking it

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Speaker 1: up and playing thirty five to forty minutes if this

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Speaker 1: is Game seven of the Western Conference Final.

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Speaker 4: Yes, But my point is if this wasn't the NBA Cup,

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Speaker 4: he probably wouldn't have played as many minutes as he did.

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Speaker 1: I think that's Chris's point though, that because it's not significant,

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Speaker 1: it's why people aren't really going out there and giving

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Speaker 1: an A plus effort to be on the floor. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that much to these guys. I think Wemby's

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Speaker 1: minutes kind of shows that a little bit. If this

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Speaker 1: was I look, if he's hurt and he can't go,

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Speaker 1: then whatever, Game seven, Conference Finals, NBA Finals, he's playing,

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Speaker 1: he's sucking it up and he's getting out there. But

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Speaker 1: for the NBA Cup, with how many more months of basketball?

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Speaker 1: Six months of basketball left to go, he's not going

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Speaker 1: to risk injury. Well, no way, I mean, nor should he.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the Knicks rotation, yeah, looks to me

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Speaker 4: like an NBA Finals minutes rotation. Well, we only played

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Speaker 4: eight players, Og, Karl Anthony, Towns, Jalen Brunson, mckill, Bridges.

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Speaker 4: They all played thirty plus zho oj Og played forty.

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Speaker 4: Jalen bruns have played forty one minutes. It means more

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Speaker 4: to the next than it does the Spurs.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it means so much to the Knicks that

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Speaker 1: they're not even hanging a banner. They said, we don't

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Speaker 1: need a banner. We're not doing it.

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Speaker 2: I do think the.

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Speaker 3: Boss did it, the Lakers did it.

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Speaker 1: Look I mean, I think I think we can disagree

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Speaker 1: on this, that there are reasons to do it. There's

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Speaker 1: also reasons to agree with Russo that it's nothing significant whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: There's a gimmick to get NBA players who are paid

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars a year to actually do their jobs

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Speaker 1: in the month of December. And that's a sad state

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Speaker 1: of affairs, but it's reality.

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Speaker 4: I agree we shouldn't put a banner up for the

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Speaker 4: NBA Cup, but I think the people that are really

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Speaker 4: have a problem with it are.

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Speaker 2: Just complaining for complaining's sake.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get one more before the break. Hey Dick,

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Speaker 1: did you happen to hear that? What's that?

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Speaker 3: Let's go to his partner, go back to number one there.

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Speaker 1: Anders also on First Take today, steven A, we gave

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Speaker 1: Russo air time. It's like the presidential race got to

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Speaker 1: give both sides airtime. Steven A talking about what the

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Speaker 1: Raiders need to do to become relevant again.

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Speaker 3: They say, what happens.

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Speaker 7: In Vegas stays in vasas.

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Speaker 12: But the Raiders are so awful right now, the stinch

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Speaker 12: has circulated throughout the country, every football city, every football

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Speaker 12: city recognizes how awful they have been. Put Tom Brady

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Speaker 12: in charge. Mark Davis just hand over the whole. I

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Speaker 12: don't care about him being just a part owner. Handover

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Speaker 12: football operations to Tom Brady. Okay, not that you can,

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Speaker 12: because he's not going to leave the job. That he's

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Speaker 12: got a Fox paying him over thirty seven million dollars

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Speaker 12: to run the damn Raiders.

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Speaker 7: He ain't stupid at all, but.

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Speaker 12: Ask him anyway, figure out something, because you need all

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Speaker 12: the help you can get.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders are awful. Geno Smith said.

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith, excuse me, has the thirty second best QBR

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and there's thirty three players that have qualified.

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Speaker 1: You know who's thirty third behind? Geno Smith said, cam

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Speaker 1: Ward is thirty three. So I think that a big

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Speaker 1: reason why the Raiders are where they're at is because

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Speaker 1: of the way Geno Smith has played. Now, I haven't

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Speaker 1: watched every Raider game, don't know about the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: don't know about everything else around him. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: got Bowers, he's got Jenny and Max Crosby, and that

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Speaker 1: really is kind of.

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Speaker 3: It in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: But Pete Carroll trusted Geno Smith to get him through

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Speaker 1: year one as the Vegas Raiders head coach, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know he's has he let him down?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't I don't watch.

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Speaker 1: Enough Raider football to know who's to blame for the

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Speaker 1: offense being miserable in Vegas. I just know the numbers

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Speaker 1: Dick show that Gino Smith has been terrible, and a couple.

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Speaker 4: Of games that I've seen them, their offensive line gets

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Speaker 4: blown off the ball every single play. Ashton gent gets

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Speaker 4: the handoff and usually he's wrapped up behind the line

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Speaker 4: of scrimming.

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Speaker 3: Where's he gonna go exactly?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Geno's been Gino's been horrible.

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Speaker 4: But that's what's gonna happen when you use your first

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Speaker 4: high first round draft pick YEP on a height end

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Speaker 4: in a running back in back to back years.

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Speaker 2: Guess what your trenches are gonna suck?

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Speaker 1: Did you see the amount of times that Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: has been sacked compared to Gino Smith.

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald has been sacked eighteen times.

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Speaker 1: Anybody want to guess how many times Gino Smith has

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Speaker 1: been taken down forty nine times?

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Speaker 3: Forty nine times?

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna break Petros joins Next on ninety

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Speaker 1: three three kJ A RFM,