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Speaker 1: Don't want to be an American.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to We got lots going on this morning in

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Speaker 2: scottslone show on seven hundred W WELW.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you.

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Speaker 2: The government's reopened and we've got Epstein files to talk about.

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Speaker 2: In just so much more, a little closer to home,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati proposing a stricter nine to five curfew for miners

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Speaker 2: under eighteen on short Fine. We're talking about this yesterday

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Speaker 2: with other council members, so short Finding, you see, and

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a think between Daniel Street and Corey

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Speaker 2: and it moved out of committee and now Consul's a

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Speaker 2: whole vote for this thing. And so the idea is

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Speaker 2: we have crime that since they've been cracking down on

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Speaker 2: Fountain Square in downtown and OTR that we're seeing juveniles

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Speaker 2: in particular move towards short Vine. And of course we

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Speaker 2: had a fifteen year old charge with murder in April.

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Speaker 2: Remember the shooting outside of the liquor store Halloween weekend.

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Speaker 2: There was gunfly fire and a bunch of tons of

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Speaker 2: UC students out there in costume enjoying the fun of

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Speaker 2: Halloween weekend that was upset by gunfire. Fortunately, no one

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Speaker 2: was struck there and so we're going to try another

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Speaker 2: curfew here of many curfews. She is counselmer reelect Meka

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Speaker 2: Owhen's joining the show this morning on seven hundred WW Mika,

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Speaker 2: welcome back and congratulations.

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Speaker 1: By the way, thank you, Scott.

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Speaker 3: I am very happy to do that your listeners and

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Speaker 3: the voters of this city and trusting me to get

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Speaker 3: back to work in the city Hall. There's so much

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Speaker 3: for us to do. Safety is at the top of

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Speaker 3: the list, uh, you know, and no one moves to

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Speaker 3: a city where they don't feel safe until it's important

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Speaker 3: that we make sure that every single neighborhood feels that way.

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Speaker 3: So building more housing, transportations, so many things for us

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Speaker 3: to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised do you finish third? Overall?

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Speaker 3: You know, I never take anything for granted. You know,

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Speaker 3: you run a race, and you run at this it's

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Speaker 3: your first time running, and so I am just grateful

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Speaker 3: that again, folks, you know, decided that the work that

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Speaker 3: I've been doing is valuable to moving this city forward.

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Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: like the placement is great, but for voters to say yes,

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Speaker 3: I want you to represent me, represents the city at large.

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Speaker 3: That is a huge responsibility, and so it's really about

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Speaker 3: getting back and doing their work.

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Speaker 1: Good, good, good.

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Speaker 2: I want to name recognition obviously, but finishing third and

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Speaker 2: ahead of another bunch of other prominent Democrats is pretty

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Speaker 2: big final point on the election because this is obviously

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Speaker 2: concerning as well. We know that the Charter Rights three

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Speaker 2: is a Democratic sweep on council. Democrats had a great

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Speaker 2: night like yourself on Tuesday election night, but relative to

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Speaker 2: the Charter Rights who made a lot of noise, and

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Speaker 2: I think they made some really strong arguments about getting

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Speaker 2: serious about public safety. And even though they didn't place

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Speaker 2: and it was a sweep, do you still listen to

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Speaker 2: that and go, well, you know what, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of animosity here and we've handled things poorly relative to

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Speaker 2: crime here in Cincinnati. Do you get a message from

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Speaker 2: the voters on that, you know?

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Speaker 3: I would say the voters have entrusted and have looked

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Speaker 3: to the city's budget to understand that we are investing

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Speaker 3: I think voters see that we are taking that seriously

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Speaker 3: and crime. Getting a handle on crime takes a lot

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Speaker 3: of components, one of which your CPD you know, environment improves,

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Speaker 3: improved communities, investments in communities, young people having opportunities. These

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Speaker 3: are all factors. But certainly the way that we respond

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's the outlart too, is we have

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Speaker 2: to wait for all these police recruits and classes to

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be a while before all this happens,

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Speaker 2: and we're still going to have, sadly some crime going on.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned what's going in and around you.

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Speaker 2: Ce Mika Owens, one of the people who were interviewed

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Speaker 2: out there, said, hey, listen, now we put a curfew

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think we're playing black them all.

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Speaker 3: I think we're being very responsive. And certainly, again, you know,

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Speaker 3: you apply the resources where you see there might be problems,

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Speaker 3: No one should live in an environment where gunshots become

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Speaker 3: You know, we're knowing that that folks are stilling done

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Speaker 3: it's something that we're not taking our foot off to deat.

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Speaker 2: Well, not only that, I mean, let's talk about this

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Speaker 2: from a consumer spurtsvactive here. We know the trouble that

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Speaker 2: deflating and sometimes rapidly the value of a college degree

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Speaker 2: for what you pay for worse as you get that's

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Speaker 2: a can But as we have fewer students and schools,

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Speaker 2: some schools going out of business, let's put it that way.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing that across the country, if not in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Now we all of a sudden, you know, we have

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Speaker 2: in and around universitys, Cincinnati does that hurt enrollment. Is

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Speaker 2: that a concern of the administration you see be the city.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not talked directly to see it administration, but

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Speaker 3: certainly if you know any time that again, people perception

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Speaker 3: people will make decisions on where they go, where they

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Speaker 3: invest their money, where they send their young people to school,

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Speaker 3: with other places, it's important that you know, young people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mika Owens.

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Speaker 2: With the problems you have with this, of course, is

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Speaker 2: that this is going to crack down on teenagers, those

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Speaker 2: five it's gonna be nine to five curfew. Other In fact,

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Speaker 2: we have all these staggered curf kind of like parking.

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Speaker 2: You know, the different parking zones across the city. I

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Speaker 2: I can be eighteen and it's eleven o'clock. Here it's

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Speaker 2: relative to enforcement, But the more important element is the

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Speaker 2: fact that you're now restricting eighteen year olds around a

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Speaker 2: does this simply stop people from going out after nine

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Speaker 1: Myself, I remember the days, you know.

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Speaker 2: You'd stay up till three, four, five o'clock in the

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Speaker 2: is that going to work with these students that are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, I think this is going to be something

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Speaker 3: work out through our shirt MoU. But ultimately, again, it's

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Speaker 3: about making this environment safe, which, by the way, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you're aware that you know, Chief Isaac, the chief

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Speaker 3: as well, and so you know, we're taking in all

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Speaker 3: of the information and data, and you know, the city

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Speaker 3: the administration is not making just decisions and silos. But

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Speaker 3: you know, listening to CPD is important in this as well.

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Speaker 3: But ultimately, you know this is going to take business owners.

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Speaker 3: You see CPD young people communication to make sure that

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Speaker 3: ultimately we want to make sure that our businesses are

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Speaker 3: not suffering. And so this will again be the continued

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Speaker 3: part of the conversation. And I certainly am invested in

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Speaker 3: working with the administration on these things, including our food

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with the eleven o'clock food truck band?

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Speaker 3: Again, I think it was a response to what the

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Speaker 3: people congregating at three o'clock in the morning around food

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Speaker 3: having something that is more consistent, something that also helps

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Speaker 3: When we think about food trucks that want are certified,

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Speaker 3: again I think what's important is that we're not doing

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Speaker 3: how might we create solutions around that.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with the MECO.

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Speaker 2: And it feels punitive to me as a business owner

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Speaker 2: in that, you know, I'm out there selling a product

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Speaker 2: to people I don't know their background. I had a

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Speaker 2: should you. And then because of some few bad actors,

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Speaker 2: I have to shut down eleven o'clock when I could

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Speaker 2: don't know what the options are. Clifton at midnight or

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Speaker 2: bar's closed. But I know, as you went to Miami,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of windows, says, food trucks up there now,

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Speaker 2: robots and everything else. And so you know, you can

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Speaker 2: get food on the campus of Miami. That's a little

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Speaker 2: different that you see. But the point is there's a

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Speaker 2: know what, we had a problem with people stealing cars,

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Speaker 2: which we see all the time now with the sheriff

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Speaker 2: or the State Highway Patrol helicopters.

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Speaker 1: You know what we're gonna do. We're having a curfew now.

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Speaker 2: You can't drive on the streets after eleven o'clock because

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Speaker 2: some people are driving too fast.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it the same thing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I certainly hear that from members

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Speaker 3: right now is to one create an environment that build states,

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Speaker 3: so by way of you know, really creating an environment

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Speaker 2: Public safety at this level should not be concern and

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Speaker 2: And we're talking about that vote coming up here on

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Speaker 2: because we had the curfews, downtown, city wide curfew, the

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Speaker 3: I think it's working, and so which is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: We certainly don't want to see a curf youth center

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Speaker 2: I'll point out, Mika that if you go back to

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Speaker 3: I think it's both. It's important to know that young people,

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Speaker 3: And so again, if young people one, they should be

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Speaker 3: But it's one that the city has to be in

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Speaker 3: Of course, supporting the constitution absolutely, but young people have

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Speaker 3: take Again. This is just you know, a continued conversation,

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Speaker 1: Gay gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Finally, I live in Warren County and we had the

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Speaker 2: From a federal perspective, that's a strong message to these individuals.

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Speaker 2: But yet it feels like they're being treated with kid gloves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're pointing out that there is you know,

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Speaker 3: you shouldn't be with a you know, a llegal firearm

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Speaker 3: And so certainly this takes the court system to be

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Speaker 1: All right, how are you going to vote on that?

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Speaker 3: You know today is we'll see what happens this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: But I am certainly someone who is supporting public safety initiatives.

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Speaker 3: It is uh, you know, what might we need to

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Speaker 2: Okay, so well, if those questions are answered, you say

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, got it.

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Speaker 3: I don't see reasons to not support this.

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Speaker 2: Council Member Mika Owens appreciate the time, as always, answered,

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Speaker 2: Hip and I congratulations again on the big win.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to getting back

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Speaker 3: to work for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go, let's go, all right, Thanks, take care.

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Speaker 2: We got to get a news update in and more

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