1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show at Mark Madden X. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: In the wake of Liverpool losing to last place Wolves yesterday, 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: I got some good news today, how about this? 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: On the same day. On the same. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Day, Liverpool anounced the preseason tour of America, Like remember 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: when they came to Akatra a couple of years back. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Nashville for sure. Probably Chicago can't 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: make the New York date, but that's gonna be fun. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: And how improbable is this playing in Chicago in June? 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: A UFO tribute band Lightside featuring original drummer and Finding 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: member Andy Parker. Oh, it just doesn't get any better. 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: Let's bring on Tommy Football. Tom We talked about this 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: briefly yesterday. Why would they be so stuck on Rogers, 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: especially now with Murray available? 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, because the thing that you could fall 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: back on if you were in the Rogers camp as well, 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: you look at what's out there, and there's really nothing 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: out there that you could say is better than Rogers. 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: But Kyler Murray I think is definitively a better choice 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: right now at their points in their career than Rogers. 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: I mean, the age is obviously the overwhelming factor. 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: He's too short, but I'd rather have too short than 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: too old. 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: I want mobile. Yeah, exact the mundo. 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: And I know it's very unlikely that Sam Donald could 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: come to excuse me, Freudian slip, I would see would 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: have come to Pittsburgh last year. Unlikely that Murray comes 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh and becomes you know, Sam Donald here the 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: way Donald, you know, just just just came through in 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota and especially winning the Super Bowl with Seattle. But 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: there's no chance of that with Rogers, And there's a 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: slight one with Murray that he could be your long 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: term guy. 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a slight chance in that. 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: And you know, Sam Donald go into Seattle is coming 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: off of a fourteen win season in Minnesota in a 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: career year, something that Murray has not done at this 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: point in his career in the NFL. But the track 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: record for Kyler Murray isn't terrible. And you know, I 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: was looking into this more yesterday. 41 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: Mark. If it was it's great, Arizona wouldn't be cutting 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: it exactly, Okay, exactly, But I'm just saying it's unrealized 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: potential that still can be. 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: He was hurt a lot last year twenty twenty four. 45 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: You know, they went eight nine as a team. But 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: he threw for twenty one touchdowns, had eleven picks, rushed 47 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: for over five hundred yards. That's a big key there. 48 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: And he had a sixty eight percent completion percentage. His 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 3: career completion percentage is sixty seven. Like that's an accurate 50 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: ish quarterback there, I say, just a downright accurate quarterback. 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Well, the reason Art wants him, wants Rogers, it's because 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: he's so desperate to win a playoff game after nine 53 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: years not and he sees Rogers is a better bet 54 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: thereof And maybe that's true, but maybe it isn't. Rodgers 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: didn't win a playoff game last year. He's a not 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: a year older. But with the Steelers it's always about 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: short term stupid. 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: I don't think either of them will lead to a 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: playoff win, to be quite honest with you, Murray or Rogers. 60 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 3: But with Murray there's that chance that if he does, 61 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: there's a future attached to it. So that's what you 62 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: gotta do. That's the lottery ticket you scratch off. 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna of trouble even making the playoffs. 64 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: I think they're in trouble even finishing five hundred. And 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: I've said that before, but with Jackson and Burrow in 66 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: that division, you know, I mean, you can't presume they're 67 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: gonna be healthy because they've had injury problems, right, both 68 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: of them pretty consistently over the last how many years. 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: But what if they are, they're gonna be out for blood, 70 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: especially what happened last And. 71 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Is Aaron Rodgers gonna stay healthy? Is he gonna, you know, 72 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: play as many games? 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: What he missed a couple games, right, missed the one 74 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: game he left at halftime of the or around half 75 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: time of the Bengals games. Yeah, it's tough to say 76 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: he will stay healthy again. But the one thing that 77 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: goes in his favor, and I constantly bring this up, 78 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: is he just gets rid of the ball. That's part 79 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: of being Grandpang game manager. He just gets rid of 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: the ball in point five seconds, just as lightning fast, 81 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: so no one hits him. 82 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's either smart football or scared football, 83 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: maybe a bit of both, right, you see. I just 84 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: think Murray's better short term because he can move. I 85 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just I just don't trust the Steelers 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: to make the right decision whatever that is. At this point, 87 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust the Steelers to wash my car. You know, 88 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: it should be a primer for all Steeler fans. My 89 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: trip article I wrote what a couple weeks back, where 90 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: I detailed the six grievous mistakes they've made since twenty 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: nineteen that have put them in a hole to this day. 92 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: How could you read that and trust any decision they make, 93 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: let alone a big one. 94 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody when you try to find 95 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: the next quarterback, wouldn't want someone that can move either. 96 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: You know, I know that. You know Darnold. 97 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: He doesn't exactly move, but he's not immobile. And there 98 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: are exceptions to that rule, like a Matt Stafford. But 99 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: like the new age is, you got to get somebody 100 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: that can run. You got to get somebody that's like 101 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: thirty forty yards a game on the ground. 102 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Has that mobility go that far? I need that. 103 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: I want somebody who's not like Weekend and Bernie's with 104 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: a helmet all well, that would help for sure, But 105 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean Rogers is too far in that direction. 106 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of other factors too. When you 107 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: have a guy that's that in mobile. 108 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: What's gonna happen on the on the left side of 109 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line? Tom, what if Jones can't play now 110 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: that he's at his neck fuse and Seamalu walks be 111 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: a free agency. 112 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 113 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: The right side's good, but the left side is still 114 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: a question mark. And a lot of people are assuming 115 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: that Dylan Cook right will just take that mantle and 116 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: keep that momentum going the last year. 117 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: Where it's not least, because that's the sort of thing 118 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: they've always been able to talk themselves into. 119 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: We had a couple of good games and now he 120 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: can start. Can you afford to let Seeimalu walk? 121 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: Honestly, now, at this point, if you are about winning 122 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: this year and not wasting a year on they have 123 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: five bathroom stalls in the entire locker room complex. 124 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: They're not gonna They're not gonna spend big on one 125 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: guy and plus the big and not only that, if 126 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: you let him go, that's one less guy for the stalls. 127 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: That's very true. And again they got to replace him. Yeah, 128 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: but if you replace can I imagine Ciamalu in terms 129 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: of well, nevermind, if you replace Cmalu two with like 130 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: a lesser light you know someone who's a rookie or 131 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: something like that, you can bully him around as far 132 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: as the stalls are concerned. A veteran like Seemal, you 133 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: pay respect, wait in line. Yeah exactly, But I mean 134 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 3: a one year deal eight million dollars. The market can't 135 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: be crazy for someone like Isaac Camal. To your point, 136 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: there's so much much unknown about that side. Why risk 137 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: it and let him go? I think he is a 138 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: guy that you should be able to retain. No, no doubt, 139 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: you have a leg of cat. We keep hearing about 140 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: all the cass space the Steelers have. They can attack 141 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: free agency. We'll attack it in house somewhat and brings 142 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: Themali back well. 143 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: Talking about Dylan Cook and bringing back Rogers. That's the 144 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: problem with the Steelers. They always think they know better, 145 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: and especially when they don't. 146 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 147 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: And that's what's a ton of bad decisions over the 148 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: past decade. And still they are convinced, which means they 149 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: never think outside the box. They just follow their blueprint, 150 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: and that blueprint for years ain't got him nowhere, uh 151 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: nore nowhere. 152 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: That counts anyway. 153 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to do the no losing 154 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: seasons thing, you had to do that on your own time. 155 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: We're not gonna buy any bs. We're all filled up here. 156 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Penguins lost on Sight of Boston two to one. We're 157 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: gonna talk plenty about that. It was a winnable game. 158 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just lose, and uh, we're. 159 00:06:59,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: Gonna talk more. 160 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: One thing really scares me about bringing Murray, and I 161 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: will say that, and I'll tell you what it is. 162 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: Just around the corner on one oh five to nine. 163 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: Hey, we're in your smart speakers sucking. Listen to the 164 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: X everywhere you go. Tell your smart speakers blocks play 165 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: one oh five point nine the X on iHeartRadio. 166 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: Hey it's smart Madden. Forget this almost fifty pounds talk. 167 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I cruised right past that. I'm down fifty two pounds 168 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: fifty two And that's not the headline. The headline is 169 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: what's actually happening. Visceral fat is down, body fat percentage 170 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: is down. Awaken one eighty works every which way it 171 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: can with the meds. You just eat less, less of 172 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: the same bad things. Your body scavenges muscle for fuel. 173 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: That's not a win. With Awaken one eighty. You're eating 174 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: to lose weight. You're fueling your body so it goes 175 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: after the fat for energy. 176 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: That's science, folks. 177 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the first thing about body composition charts 178 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: or metabolic adjustments. That's the weekly check ins matter. The 179 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: numbers don't lie, and they spell success for you with 180 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: Awaken one to eighty. 181 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: If something needs to change, it changes. I just execute. 182 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: That's why the fact keeps dropping and the muscle stays 183 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: fifty two pounds down and we're not done. 184 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: Awaken one eightyweight loss dot com five thousand dollars. 185 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: That's the average amount of money people in the US 186 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: are now spending on gas in a year. 187 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Play next year. He talked about working out. Pat asked 188 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: him if that meant he would be playing. He said, no, 189 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: he just wants to stay in shape so his wife 190 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: will still f him, and he used the F word. See, 191 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: the lives have already started because he's not married. That 192 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: wife's fake as we know, nobody's ever seen her. And 193 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: obviously he's not going to say anything big today. It 194 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: just banter and nonsense like well, like the Pat McAfee 195 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: show's known for at a very successful rate. Might I add, 196 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: but Roger's going to drag this out, which is why 197 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: they should. 198 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 2: Go get Kyle fing Murray. 199 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: Now, I will say what scares me about Kyler Murray 200 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,119 Speaker 1: is that homework causing his contract. 201 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: He had that at Arizona. 202 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: They deleted it once people found out about it, but 203 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: it required him to do four hours of film study 204 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: every week in no TV or video games during that time. 205 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: Young man, you can't watch TV until you finish your homework, 206 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: your film study. That's like a contract quote unquote that 207 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: a parent gives their seventh grader. 208 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: Homework first, young man. 209 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Like I said, they deleted that cause when it became 210 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: public because it was embarrassing because you're contractually requiring Kyler 211 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: Murray in that situation to care to actually be a 212 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: professional and do his job. But now, well, now he's 213 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: twenty eight, god cut, and if coming to Pittsburgh or 214 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: wherever he plays next, isn't last chance saloon for Kyler Murray. 215 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: It's pretty close. But then again, Arizona is going to. 216 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Pay Kyler Murray thirty six point seven million this year 217 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: to not play for them. Little moneyball reference there Billy 218 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: Bean talking to David Justice. But that said that kind 219 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: of money and what he's made today, he's got no worries. 220 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Some idiots said, Murray should play baseball because he was 221 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: quite a baseball player in college. The Okladay's drafted him 222 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: in the first round. Kyler Murray's the only guy to 223 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: be picked in the first round in both football and baseball, 224 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: But he ain't played baseball since college at Oklahoma in 225 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, so baseball seems. 226 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 2: Like it'd be dead. 227 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: And the most obvious factor in all this is that 228 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Rogers last year was mediocre at best. At best, I 229 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: get told by people who want him to come back, Oh, 230 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: you should look at the film. I'm not going to 231 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: look at the film. All I need to do is 232 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: look at his birth certificate. Totally immobile, plate scared. Rudolph 233 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: would have done worse, but not a lot worse. But 234 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers are always right. Tom, do you need a 235 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: homework clause like Murray had? You prepare enough for this show? 236 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: I do prepare enough for this show. 237 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: But in my younger days I hated doing homework, Mark, 238 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: I was not that good at it. 239 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: But I didn't do. 240 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: Terrible at school either, so I must have had a 241 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 3: little bit of genius in me. Not gonna say a 242 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: super genius, of course, not, but a little bit there. 243 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: And you know that is a worry for Kyler Murray, 244 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: no question about it. There's a lot of worries about 245 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. This isn't a great quarterback that we're talking 246 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: about it. We're tucking him up a lot, but you're not. 247 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: Give me a better option. He's the best available. 248 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: Because of the age and mobility, and that's pretty much 249 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: the only reason why. All though you pointed out in 250 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: the first segment he has been a relatively accurate thrower 251 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: in recent years. 252 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: He's better than justin fields like if you want to 253 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 3: look at it as far as like the last time 254 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: he had a mobile quarterback, which is the word, didn't 255 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: let him be mobile. He's a much better passer of 256 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: the football, much better actual quarterback. There the homework clause 257 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: thing though, Say he doesn't grow up right, Say he's 258 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: still playing modern warfare. 259 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: There's just no risk. Is that what he plays? Yeah, 260 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: there's just no risk to it at all. It's league minimum. 261 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: It's one year. 262 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 3: If he does do that, you say thank you, see 263 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: you later, and there's no long term ramifications of that, 264 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: and you find out firsthand that he was too immature 265 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: and you move on. 266 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: And like I've been saying, if you bring Murray in, 267 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: and this applied to Malik Willis too, if you would 268 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: assigned him, and I guess they still could, but they're 269 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: not interested. And I don't think they're interested in Kyler 270 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: Murray either. 271 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: No. 272 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: But if you brought either Murray or Willis in and 273 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: then drafted your guy this year next, you've got the 274 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: famed quarterback whisperer from Greenfield Tom Mike McCarthy, and you 275 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: would think that he could get through by whispering to 276 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: at least one of those two. The guy you drafted, 277 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: either Willis or Fields. Yes, and you can't whisper to 278 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: Rogers because he needs a hearing. 279 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: It he very good. 280 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: And you'd think that that would be the case because 281 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: the person that would be drafted would be Mike McCarthy 282 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: would like him right. He would be part of a 283 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: draft that he is heading up, or he's part of 284 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: the crew that's heading it up. And this would be 285 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: a guy that he's identified traits in an interview and 286 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: says I can mold him into something. 287 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, Malik Willis, let me see that too. Take 288 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: a shot at them. 289 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: See if there's a little bit more of a polished 290 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 3: player that I could turn into a better player, because 291 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: that's his path. Remember McCarthy, he's never really found the 292 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: guy in the draft and turned him into the leak guy. 293 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: He's been given players with scale and then polished them 294 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: into their greatest form. 295 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: I wonder if Rogers ever had a homework cause in 296 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: his contract, or if it was like an ayahuasca cause, 297 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: or a darkroom cause, or a fake wife clause. It 298 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: took me a while to dislike Aaron Rodgers, but I 299 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: am now, and it's probably not his fault. I just 300 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: don't think they should bring him back. But I don't 301 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: like that he's jerking him around again. Then again, I 302 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: should love it because it's pretty funny now. As far 303 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: as Murray, though, and like whether he's mature or not, 304 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: I assume he has because if he ain't now at 305 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: twenty eight and getting cut, I figure if he came 306 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh or wherever he does go, he'd be a 307 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: good kind of desperate. 308 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think so too. 309 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: He probably doesn't want to watch out of the league, 310 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: although he has made a lot of money at this point. 311 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: I think he would do just fine in his life 312 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: moving on. But I think that there's gonna be a 313 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: little bit of an element that he wants to prove something. 314 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: Arizona is just a nothing franchise too. I know, they 315 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: got to the super Bowl with Kurt Warner and fits, 316 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: and they lost to the Steelers, and they've had a. 317 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: Couple of moments in the playoffs, but they are. 318 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: One of the you know, forgotten franchises in the NFL, 319 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: and he just kind of gets lost in the shuffle there, 320 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: like so many other franchisees. You come to a place 321 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: like Pittsburgh, Minnesota, you get a little bit rejuvenated. 322 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: I think I would bet on him. 323 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Here's a quote from Rogers, by the way, which shows 324 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: just what a con artist he is. Rogers called Friar 325 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: with a true professional and called out Arthur Smith Smith 326 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: right for not using them more. Aaron, you could have 327 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: fixed that. All you got to do is tell him 328 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: to put muth in there more, and then you target 329 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: him more like you did Scottie Miller and MBS and 330 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Adam Thielen and all those old bumps. 331 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: If you wanted Friar muth in, it could have happened 332 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: exactly it. 333 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: It's just hard to believe that when you clearly had 334 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,359 Speaker 3: influence on some of the playing time with the receivers 335 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: and the receivers that they brought into the fold throughout 336 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: the season to help get through the season because the 337 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: room was just terrible. That's been Omarkan's biggest flaw as 338 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: a GM by far, I think, is how he's handled 339 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: this receiving room. It's just been a mess from start 340 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: to finish. And you are gonna just not bully at 341 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: that point. That's your stopping point when it comes to 342 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: the tight ends. That's Art's job. I don't buy that. 343 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I feel that I'm talking about this because the Steelers 344 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: won't get Kyler Murray. There's no interest at all. But 345 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable that they won't even sniff. Why aren't they 346 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: interested in Murray? Why are they so stuck on Rogers? 347 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't answer that question for you. 348 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: The youth factor alone is just really the only thing 349 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: that you need. And again, this isn't Sam Darnold. He's 350 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: not someone that's coming from Arizona with a lot of success. 351 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: He did make the playoffs one year in Arizona. He's 352 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: had some successes there, and like I said, the numbers 353 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: aren't as bad as you'd think. Size is an issue. 354 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: He gets hurt a lot, probably because he's so small. 355 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: But I mean, you're picking from the dumpster a bit 356 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: here if you're in the Steelers spot with a bad 357 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: draft class that you have and the poor free agency crop. 358 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: Until Murray got infused into it. 359 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Rogers just started talking about Mike McCarthy and what 360 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: a big hearty has, blah blah blah. 361 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: So it's it's the same stuff we thought. Well, of 362 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: course McCarthy has a big heart, so do I. Tom. 363 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: He's been fat all his life. Awaken one eighty Greenfield guy, 364 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: that's how you shrink that muscle. One O five ninety X. 365 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: It's the Woody Show, Weekendy Mornings at six one o 366 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: five ninety X. 367 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: Use WJ McNabb plumbing for all your home or business 368 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: plumbing needs. Doublem on the X. The Penguins lost last 369 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: night at Boston. That ain't no good, but Washington lost ya, 370 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: Columbus won boo, but yeah two one of Boston last night, 371 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: Penguins scored after just forty two seconds. Carlson, who played 372 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: a banger of a game, got the Penguins off to 373 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: a good start, but then they seemed to lapse a 374 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: little bit, and the Bruins scored twice in fifty seconds. 375 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: That had two to one after six minutes, and that 376 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: was the extent of the scoring. 377 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 2: Peng was out shot Boston thirty five to twenty eight. 378 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: I got an argument on Twitter last night about their 379 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: lack of Grade A scoring chances, and I was told 380 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: they had him. 381 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. 382 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: They hit the post three times, that's I guess a 383 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: Grade A chance. But swiming and goal for Boston, I 384 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: don't remember him making many spectacular saves. He just had 385 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: to kind of put in the work. But you're not 386 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna win every game without Sid. PEngs have done just 387 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: fine at this point, and now they host Buffalo tomorrow night. 388 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 2: Come watch the game with me. 389 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: If you're not going to PPG, I'll be at Pittsburgh 390 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: Brewing Company. Just off through twenty eight and Creighton and 391 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I have a lot of USA Hockey merchandise to give away. 392 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: Nike's all sold out, but not the super Genius Tom. 393 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: What did you make of the game last night at Boston? 394 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was winnable, but it's just one of 395 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: those games sometimes you lose and we could have won, but. 396 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: Blah blah, blah. 397 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, as you said, you're not gonna be perfect without 398 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: Sidney Crosby, and they've been off to a fantastic start, 399 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 3: a bout as good of a start as you probably 400 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: could have expected or asked for without sid But it 401 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: did feel like like such a winnable game. You know, 402 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: if you go to Boston get blasted like five nothing, 403 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 3: you'd be like, ah, whatever, can't win them all. It 404 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: felt like you could have won that game last night, 405 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: but you come out and take care of business at home. 406 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: Now you have three straight home games coming up, you 407 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: can get revenge on Boston on Sunday. They're okay. And 408 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: back to your point about the goaltending. I never felt 409 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: like swam and goalie them in that game. Like I 410 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: never felt he played good Like I said, he just 411 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: put in the world. I just never felt like it 412 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: was like, wow, this is highway robbery. The Penguins are 413 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: just getting you know chance, Yeah right in the bee. 414 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: You know, it was great Again. I just mentioned Carlson. 415 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean, as bad as he was the first year 416 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: is in Pittsburgh, he's been brilliant this year and people 417 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: scoff when I say he might be the team MVP. 418 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 2: But he might be the team MVP. 419 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: Well, and how encouraging is it too that because we 420 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: were questioning, you know, now that the Olympics are done, 421 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 3: what kind of Carlson are you going to get? Does 422 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: he kind of revert back to the first couple of 423 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: years in Pittsburgh because they didn't have that Team Sweden 424 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: thing hanging out there? But my god, he's just been 425 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: magnificent since. 426 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: He's in a groove now. I think he's playing good 427 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: and knows he's playing good. 428 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: And I think the real thing is is he is 429 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: happy to be out from Sullivan. I just don't think 430 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: that they meshed at all. Love Sally great coach to 431 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 3: time Cup winner here, but that was just not a 432 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: marriage that worked. And he's thriving under Muse. The people 433 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: pointed this out a ton on the show, the responsibility 434 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: that mus has given Carlson putting him on the PK. 435 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: He's thriving with that. He's accepting that, embracing it and 436 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: running with it. 437 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: It's amazing how little stuff becomes big stuff when you 438 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: fail and you lose games because of it. We've been 439 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: talking about their shootout failure last night. It was their 440 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: face off thee are they won only one of every 441 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: three draws, and they be get murdered at draws and 442 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Sid's been. 443 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: Out, Oh absolutely, because they've been bad at it. Even 444 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: with Sid, Sid's been like the only one there that 445 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: you could throw out there for a big time draw. 446 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: That that is why they need to make that move 447 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: before Friday, if possible, to get somebody in here to 448 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: be the third line center and to win those face offs, 449 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: because it is such a glaring, glaring weakness for this 450 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 3: team and you got to survive almost another month still 451 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: without your best face off man returning. So it's definitely 452 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: uneasy until they come out against Buffalo and respond the 453 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: right way, which they really have all year long under 454 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: mus when they've had a game like this, they've always 455 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: come out and responded. 456 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo's horse have a different color. 457 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: They started off so bad that they won on a 458 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: crazy run and that's continued because they've won four games 459 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: straight coming out of the Olympic break. They got Thompson, 460 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: they got all those young defensemen. They're trying to trade 461 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: for Robert Thomas, the Saint Louis center, and he's the 462 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: biggest name out there. Some would say, but I heard 463 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: Saint Louis wants one of their defense Like they know 464 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: they won't get dot Lee because he's the guy back there, 465 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: but they want either Byram or Owen power. I'm if 466 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm the Sabers, I don't. I mean that's what their 467 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: team's basically strengthen them three defensemen. 468 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the identity of the Sabers. 469 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: Do you really want to trade away from the identity 470 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: that built you to this point before you even get 471 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: a chance to go to the playoffs with it? 472 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: It depends if you think that move can get you 473 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: to the next level. 474 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: But I think you don't so early. No, No, I don't. 475 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, like, what is that next level for 476 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Sabers when we haven't even seen what the 477 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: level is yet? Like make the playoffs for the first 478 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 3: time since twenty eleven, they're going to, don't get me wrong, 479 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: but let's take the baby steps here first. 480 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: Some people Tim Binz, who usually I don't think is 481 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: off base but he is here, thinks they should just 482 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: trade for Trocheck anyway. I just you'd have to give 483 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: up too much. You'd be getting away from your plan. 484 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: And then at some point, who's the fourth line center? 485 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Because you have Kindle, Trocheck, Novak and Crosby, and Tim 486 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: suggested moving Novak to wing or even making Kindle the 487 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: fourth line center. You can't make Kindle the fourth line center, 488 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: not after the season he's had, and with Novak, you 489 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: don't want to break up that Malkin line. 490 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: You don't. 491 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: But that's probably the only thing that you would probably 492 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: be able to do right or you'd have to do it. 493 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: You'd have to put troe Check in between Malkin and 494 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: Chinnikoff and then put Novak as the fourth line center, 495 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: unless you put troe Check to wing. We kicked that 496 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: around a little bit yesterday when we were playing the 497 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 3: hypothetical of get tro Check put him on Crosby's wing. 498 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: But then where do you bump, you know, roster Kel 499 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: down in the lineup. It just doesn't make sense fit 500 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: wise right now, other than he does everything they need 501 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: so well. But as far as like age contract just 502 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: to fit in a line, I. 503 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: Wish they would ignore logic and get him anyway right. 504 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: I'd be happy with it, and he would definitely help 505 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: a ton. I mean, here, what you could do. You 506 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: could put Novak on wing, on Kindle's line, because they 507 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: had a little bit of chemistry earlier in the year 508 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: and put tro Check between Malkin and Chinikoff. 509 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: See, No, I don't hate that, but like I'm just 510 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: getting picky because I love the big boys next to Kendall. 511 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: I just I really do leaving anyway. True, it's a 512 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 3: free agent seasons in and you could trade him before Friday. 513 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate that. 514 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't trust Brazo either, I mean to him 515 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: for what he's done. 516 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: But no, I do not. I don't know. 517 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: I just don't sense a deal like that is in 518 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: the pipeline when it would require a first round. 519 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Pick, a second round pick and a guy like McGroarty. 520 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 3: People say, I mean he's got Trochuk's just got so 521 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: much buzz right now. Is like the guy at the 522 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: deadline that the price is as high as it's ever 523 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: gonna be for a player like that. 524 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: Uh, just around the corner of the trifecta. The first 525 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: hour of the show brought to us by our good 526 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: friends at Shandorovich, Shandorovich and Fishman. The Rogers thing, he's 527 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: just too old and apparently not it's nothing about his 528 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: future on McAfee. You knew that would be just a 529 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: bunch of bs uh. We got the World Cup in 530 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: North America this summer. I'm going to Scotland and Morocco 531 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: and Boston. You know who qualified. You know it's supposed 532 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: to come to America to play Iran. That could be 533 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: a bit uncomfortable. One oh five nine X. 534 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: Tomorrow night, de Pens go head to head against the Sabers. 535 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: Game time is seven. 536 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: Our coverage starts at six here every game and the 537 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: best coverage right here on your home of the Pens 538 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: one o five nine. 539 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: D X. 540 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: From the one oh five nine the ex Weather Center. 541 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by All State. It's gotta be 542 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: clouding today with It's the Mark. 543 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: Maddon Free Game Show on one oh five nine DX. 544 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 2: Okay, Tom, what do we got for the trifecta? For 545 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: the trifecta? Today? 546 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: Mark coin tosses one of the most classic things in America. 547 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: Here are some iconic ones. Friday Night lights. 548 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: The three way coin toss to decide who gets to 549 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: go to the playoffs in which team is left out 550 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: in the obviously based on a true story, which is 551 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: wild that it came down to that, But it's so 552 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: great when Billy Bob just pulls the change out of 553 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: his pocket. You know the other coaches have, like the 554 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 3: antique coins that they paremonial coin. 555 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I got this change from my pop. 556 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: One guy's coin was so worn downe they miss still 557 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: tails for heads, right, yeah? 558 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: I think so, that's right. Number two still a football movie. 559 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: Gene Hackman in The Replacements a coin flip determined that 560 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: he would come back and coach the team. It came 561 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: down to just fifty to fifty shot. And could you 562 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: imagine if he didn't, we probably never find Chane Falco. 563 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I got one. You're leaving off. It would be 564 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: number one, but go ahead, okay, well number one. 565 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 3: And this is what inspired this trifecta because I caught 566 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 3: this scene last night on TV Anton Chigurn, No country 567 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: for old men, beat me to it. That's right, that's 568 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 3: the number one. What's the most you've ever lost in 569 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: a coin toss? 570 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 571 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 3: He flips a coin to determine whether to kill or not, 572 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: but he doesn't know it. The guy at the gas 573 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: station kind of knows it, but it's not. 574 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: And he wanted to flip a coin when he went 575 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: to kill Josh Brolin's wife. 576 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: But we don't know what happened. We don't know what happened. 577 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: Showed him leaving the house because she refused to do it. 578 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: She refused to play her wife on the line in 579 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: a coin flip. 580 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: That scene in the gas station is just all time though, 581 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: maybe my favorite scene in the entire movie, especially when 582 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: he goes to just put it in his pocket. 583 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: He's like, don't bring in your pocket. It's your lucky quarter. 584 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: He'll just be mixed up with all your other coins. 585 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: And you know what showed how nuts Sugor was crazyn 586 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: What a great job by Hobby or Barden he won 587 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: for that? 588 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: Uh what the best actor for that? I'm pretty sure 589 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: would have been supporting actor. 590 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He was brilliant, no question. 591 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: And what got him over was that he what the 592 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: cotton go when he went in to kill Stephen Root's character. 593 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 2: That's right, are the cotton? Did you see me? No? 594 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: That's right? 595 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: Like there were qualities that you as an audience started 596 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: to root for who was clearly the bad guy, like 597 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: the ultimate bad guy in this movie. 598 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: And it's not it's not trying to get the honest 599 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: the root for him because that was impossible. 600 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: He was endearing, though there was qualities there. It goes 601 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: to show that there are layers to everybody. True, that's 602 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: a good point. 603 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: But uh, at the end when he's in the car 604 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: wreck and the kid gives him a shirt and he 605 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: makes sure he takes that money. 606 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: That, yeah, I. 607 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: Mean Schagarn in that movie. That whole movie is really 608 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: an all time classic, like one of the greats. I 609 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: didn't watch the whole thing last night. It's a movie 610 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: that I watch all the way through. 611 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: If you see it, if I'm flipping it down and 612 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: I come upon it, by the way, I'm tom do 613 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: you know how to get Like? There's a documentary on Raven, 614 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: the wrestler who we've had on the show that's supposedly 615 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: really good, which which I want to see because the 616 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: Raven character was one of the few legitimately original wrestling 617 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: characters of the last like thirty or forty years. The 618 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: self loathing, grunge loser kind of loosely based on Cobaine, 619 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: but a lot of elements of a of a lot 620 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: of characters, you know, played by Scotty Levy. 621 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: And I can't find the documentary anywhere. 622 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: It's supposedly available to buy on Amazon Prime, but I 623 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: can buy it on my computer, but I can't buy it. 624 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: It doesn't show up anywhere on my TV on Exfinity cable. 625 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: Like if you did you buy it on your computer already, 626 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: like you should have it. I not yet. 627 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 3: No, Okay, yeah good. I was gonna say there should 628 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: be a way you just buy it on your TV. 629 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: That's really weird that you can't do that from Amazon Prime. 630 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: There. 631 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: You know what else happen today too, Tom, It was 632 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: a good day in that Liverpool announced they're touring the 633 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: US and that there's now a UFO tribute band featuring 634 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: their their fonding member and drummer Andy Parker, that I'm 635 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: going to go see in Chicago this summer. But the 636 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: electrical outlet I used it, I plugged my treadmill and 637 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: the TV in front of the treadmill into stopped at 638 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: the very end of my workout. 639 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: It just it stopped working. Both devices stopped working. 640 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: I started the electricity up again, like the fuse boss 641 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: didn't work. 642 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: I mean it worked for everything else, but that works. 643 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: So oh that sucks because that's the obvious thing that 644 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: you try and you just hope to God that it 645 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: turns it back on. 646 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: I've an electrician coming in tomorrow. So and you know 647 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: what else too, tom tomorrow, I'm doing my taxes. Shout 648 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: out to my account, the great, the great Paul Rudoy. 649 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: I have so many different sources of income, and I 650 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: report them all because there's no upside in trying to 651 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: fool Uncle Sam, unless, of course, you're in the Epstein files. 652 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: One thing we didn't talk enough about is Trey Hendrickson 653 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: of the Bengals. To Pass Rusher, who's very good obviously 654 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent. The Bengals mangled 655 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: that they needed to trade him a while back or 656 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: franchise him. Now, I've heard it said that Cincinnati could 657 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: have handled it worse. Sure they could have. They could 658 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: have given him forty one mil per year when he's 659 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: on the down side of his career. But how do 660 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: you feel about the way they handled that because it 661 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: weren't good. I mean, I thought they can you franchise 662 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: somebody and then trade them. 663 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 664 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that actually, but they should have 665 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: just franchised tagged him regardless and not tried to trade 666 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: him because they need so desperately, just anything on that 667 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: side of the ball that can be a game changer, 668 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: a big sack there, strip sack, extra possession for Joe 669 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: Burrow in that offense because they have to win games 670 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: thirty five to thirty one. And now you're taking away 671 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: really the only proven commodity that you have on that defense. 672 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: Maybe if you only have one prove of commodity on defense, 673 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: you're just as bad off not. 674 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: Having it none, I guess. 675 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: But then there's just a less chance that you get 676 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: that game changing play, that one turnover that could potentially 677 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: give Burrow that extra shot to inch ahead by a 678 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: field goal. I mean, the Bengals are just that, just 679 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: a poorly run organization. And if they could have seen 680 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: this forrest through the Trees a few years ago with 681 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson a couple of years ago, You're right, that 682 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 3: was their opportunity to trade them, and for them to 683 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: not pursue that and then to get to this point 684 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: and just be so stubborn where you're not even gonna 685 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: franchise tag him. Just a terrible job by them. He's 686 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: gonna walk for absolutely nothing. Who's gonna have a better 687 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: year The Bengals are Steelers. I'll say Bengals just because 688 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: it's hard to predict health right, Like, it's hard for 689 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: me to say Burrow is gonna get hurt again, even 690 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: though there's just such a strong track record for that. 691 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: I think the Bengals defense will hold them back from 692 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: ultimately contending for a Super Bowl and making a deep 693 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: run once again. But if he stays healthy, they'll win 694 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 3: eleven games. I think that's capable for them a lot 695 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: of games. Eleven's okay, towards the middle section of your 696 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: division winners every year. I'm not saying he's gonna be 697 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: thirteen to fourteen run the league. 698 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: That's why like bringing Rogers back to go against Burrows 699 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: and Lamar, it's like bringing a knife to a gunfight 700 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: and a dull old knife. I mean again, I'm not 701 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: sure Kyler Murray does much better, but there's upside there. 702 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 3: There's absolutely the upside. There is still possible with Kyler Murray. 703 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: And there's just nothing If Aaron Rodgers comes back this 704 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: year and he has a good year, there's nothing that 705 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: you can move forward with. 706 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: You're kind of just restarting again in the same place. 707 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: Whether you win that playoff game, you miss the playoffs, 708 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: you losing the wild card again. Twenty twenty sevens offseason 709 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: is gonna feel very similar to twenty twenty six. Is 710 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, you bring him in, you might be in 711 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: the same spot next year, but at least there's a chance. 712 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: That you're not. 713 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: And they need to start getting more chances to get 714 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: out of this this quarterback wilderness that they're walking in. 715 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: And no matter what happens with Rogers this year, you're 716 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: right back there. 717 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: But no matter what, they're short term stupid. They never 718 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: think past the next game. And it's funny because you 719 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 1: would think doing when they consider what that's gotten them 720 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: with Jake Munch and certainly ain't enough, they would, you know, 721 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: choose a different path. 722 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: But they think it's fine. They really do think it's fine. 723 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: And as long as the local media the stooge is 724 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: the people they they seek the approval of the fans. 725 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: From that matter, as long as they think a winning 726 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: season's fine, the Steelers will settle for that forever in. 727 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: A day, And when does this really work elsewhere? Right? 728 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 3: Like this patchwork getting in veterans, you know, trying to 729 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: go with the senior citizen, the older guys. Now Rogers 730 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: takes it to an extreme. But like you look at 731 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: a team like the Colts. They were stuck in that 732 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: cycle for a while. They went with Carson Wentz. When 733 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: Luck retired, Matt Ryan was the quarterback for a year. 734 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: They had Philip Rivers, not last year's Philip Rivers, but 735 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: even before he retired for the first time. Like, it 736 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: just never works. It's it's almost like teams just get 737 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: fooled by Tom Brady and say, oh, well it worked 738 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 3: for Tampa and look at his you know, forty year 739 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: old seasons. He was great. It can be done. He's 740 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: always the exception the rule. It's the same thing with 741 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: the Will Howard people. They reference Tom Brady and say 742 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: Will Howard can be great. I'm sick of people bringing 743 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: Tom Brady up as their example. Do you think Eroon's 744 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: going to play in the World Cup? Yeah, I think 745 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: so in America. Really yeah, it's gonna be spicy. 746 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: I like it. 747 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't think from coming in. I don't know, well Trump, 748 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess he could be good. I guess 749 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: what if they put him in Canada. What if they 750 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: moved all their games up there? 751 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: Maybe the I mean I haven't checked the schedule, maybe 752 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: they are. How about this for an idea? Iran plays 753 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: eleven people mentioned the Epstein Files. If the Epstein Files 754 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: people win, they get exonerated. If he Ran wins, they 755 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: get to stay in the country and play in the 756 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: World Cup. 757 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: Ooh, that now that steaks. I would definitely sign up 758 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: for that. Is that enough of a steak for Iran? 759 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: Though? 760 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: Should we give them a little bit more? Though? Maybe? 761 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: Is it just staying and winning in the World Cup 762 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: or playing in the World Cup? I don't know. 763 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell one joke and now I've talked 764 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: about it too long. How about this going in a 765 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 1: totally different direction? J T. Miller of the New York 766 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: Rangers and also this parish any luck trying to run 767 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: down j. 768 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: J on the show? Not yet? No, hopefully though. 769 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: Uh. He's on ir with injuries reportedly sustained while crowd 770 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: surfing in Miami at the eleven night club after the 771 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: team got back from winning Golden Milan. 772 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 2: Wait, that's such? Is that really true? Yes? 773 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: He played though in games since they came back. He 774 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 3: played against the Penns on Saturday. 775 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, apparently caught up with them. That's insane. 776 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: There's video and there's photographic proof. He did indeed CrowdSurf 777 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: and he is just fifteen sheets to the win. He's 778 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: five times as drunk as three sheets to the win. 779 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 3: Well, someone like JT. I mean, with Vince, he's gonna 780 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 3: be moved. He's going to have something to play for. 781 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: There is nothing for JT to play for for this 782 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 3: rest of this season. That was the season for him. 783 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 3: His crescendo was winning that gold medal. 784 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: So good for Curious why I think about it? Why 785 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: is New York moving Vince because they're just in terrible. 786 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 3: Spot, but he signed through twenty nine. Do you think 787 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 3: they'll restart that fast? I guess if they get McKenna 788 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 3: they could. 789 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I just is there. 790 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: I guess they have maybe because the return for him 791 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: right now, given that he's a glue guy and could 792 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: do so many little things well and do the big 793 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: things pretty good, maybe the demand won't ever be higher. 794 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: And I think part of it is you look at 795 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: Colorado and Minnesota, they specifically need a guy like that. 796 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but to your point about the glue guy, maybe 797 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: they just think, you know, Vince is great right now, 798 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: but we can get another Vince in two or three 799 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: years time, which we do rebuild this back up. 800 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: Oh, there's only one vincent trocheck. That's like the football chain, 801 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: only one vincent trocheck. UH. This segment brought to us 802 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: by Sander Rovias, Sandro Rovits and Fisherman, and the UH 803 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: Trifecta was brought to us by our good friends and 804 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: Danny's Pets and Hogies. On Route eighty eight and Bethel Park, 805 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers talked on McAfee. 806 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 2: He didn't even say he's not decided. He just kind 807 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 2: of went. 808 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Want 809 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: to stay in shape, want to bang my wife. Nobody's 810 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: ever seen. She doesn't exist. 811 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: He didn't say that last part, but I'm drawing my 812 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: own conclusions. It really did take me a. 813 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: While to like him, It really did. I tried, but 814 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: I failed one of five nine e x