Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American?
Speaker 2: I'd say last night was a pretty good night. Red's
Speaker 2: come from behind and win in Miami. More and that later.
Speaker 3: But of course, the big story nationally and internationally speaking
Speaker 3: is the fact that we did not destroy Iran last night.
Speaker 3: The whole civilization did not die last night. Because there's
Speaker 3: a two week ceasefire on the table. The question is
Speaker 3: who blinked you? Did Trump blink? Did I ran blink?
Speaker 3: And how long does this agreement last? Actually, let's bring
Speaker 3: in Brad Weinstrip. Colonel Winstrip retired from the United States
Speaker 3: House of Representatives and joins the show this morning from
Speaker 3: parts of known Congressman, Good morning.
Speaker 4: I ben go, I'm doing fine, Scott could be with
Speaker 4: you this morning.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: So as I said, next forty eight hours kind of
Speaker 3: the story here, does Iran actually open the street? Does
Speaker 3: Trump escalate? We have no idea around a two week
Speaker 3: clock right now. In every outstanding issue in nukes and
Speaker 3: sanctions and security guarantees, they have to get resolved before
Speaker 3: it runs out. But I'm back up a second here
Speaker 3: before we begin. You being on the House Permanent slut
Speaker 3: Committe on Intelligence here now in the President's Intelligence Advisory Board.
Speaker 3: When Trump anounced a two week suspension last night, was
Speaker 3: after my intelligence showing a Ran was generally close to
Speaker 3: a deal. Or is Pakistan giving Trump a the diplomatic
Speaker 3: off ramp that you know from a threat that, let's
Speaker 3: face it, him going in and wiping out civilization there
Speaker 3: is not going to play. Well, what's going on behind
Speaker 3: the scenes there.
Speaker 4: Well, I haven't been briefed on any of that, not
Speaker 4: being in a secure facility right now. But also if
Speaker 4: I had, I would really be able to talk about it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think let's look at the bottom line
Speaker 4: of what we're trying to accomplish after forty seven years
Speaker 4: of abuse, is to stop I Ran in its proxies
Speaker 4: that they have no news and then we get the straight
Speaker 4: open and so there's a lot of posturing obviously that
Speaker 4: it's going back and forth. You know, President Trump has
Speaker 4: proven that he's the.
Speaker 5: Man of action.
Speaker 4: You saw what he did in his first term with
Speaker 4: Syria and the nerve Gas and he saw him taking
Speaker 4: out Sulimani. And at the same time you see what
Speaker 4: America is about when you see the pilot being rescued.
Speaker 4: But through this whole process, now with the ceasefire, you know,
Speaker 4: it goes back to the old Reagan quote trust but verify,
Speaker 4: and you think back when we took out their nuclear facilities.
Speaker 4: They're parliamented for whatever they call it, actually refuse to
Speaker 4: let the inspectors come in to see what they actually have.
Speaker 4: So they're determined to continue to drive on. So we
Speaker 4: have a ceasefire fire. Arguably it's already been violated last
Speaker 4: evening as shots were still fired at Israel. But can
Speaker 4: they stop for two weeks? We'll see can they stop
Speaker 4: after forty seven years of their own war mongering? And
Speaker 4: so we have a lot of rhetoricaling now amongst politicians, etc.
Speaker 4: But we've also seen in the Middle East that the
Speaker 4: region is reacting and turning on I Ran more so
Speaker 4: than they had been in the past. This two weeks
Speaker 4: will be interesting. If indeed it last two weeks, chances
Speaker 4: for our military, which has worked pretty much surgically at
Speaker 4: a franetic pace, gives them a chance to rest and rebuild.
Speaker 4: But we're dealing with an enemy that it has a
Speaker 4: resolved that's different than that mode. Down to the last person.
Speaker 3: I would say, well, we've seen we've seen that in
Speaker 3: other areas in the Middle East has a different They're
Speaker 3: in a different timeline in the way are they deal
Speaker 3: in centuries.
Speaker 2: We deal in minutes. And that's that's part of the problem.
Speaker 3: You know, as I look through the ten point proposal,
Speaker 3: initially it was Trump said, you know, it's a good
Speaker 3: but it's not good enough.
Speaker 2: And now it's good.
Speaker 3: What change in er And for those who aren't found this,
Speaker 3: I mean there's a permanent ceasefire. They're security guarantees that
Speaker 3: Iran will not be attacked again. On the other side,
Speaker 3: they demanded the US left all US sanctions and an
Speaker 3: end to strikes in Lebanon, which obviously those two are
Speaker 3: probably not going to happen, but control of the Strait
Speaker 3: of Hormuz, a passage a two dollars two million dollars
Speaker 3: per fee ship to be split with a man for
Speaker 3: a future infrastructure reconstruction. And Trump said, you know, that's
Speaker 3: a significant step, but not good enough. Now that was yesterday.
Speaker 3: Today a different story. We've accepted it. What changed in
Speaker 3: those terms that made it acceptable of the United States?
Speaker 4: Well, I think that this president has its own negotiating
Speaker 4: and it's not uncommon for him to say one thing
Speaker 4: one minute and change his mind later, and I don't
Speaker 4: know that that's necessarily a bad thing, So I don't
Speaker 4: I don't know what changed within the White House that
Speaker 4: are for the president, but conversation may may have been
Speaker 4: had that where they seem like maybe this is what
Speaker 4: they want. So I think he wants to take the
Speaker 4: opportunity to give this a chance to play out and
Speaker 4: see what can't be done. But I'm I'm very skeptical.
Speaker 4: And this is me talking right now.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I remember after the Hamas attack in Israel in October
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, I found an article that
Speaker 4: actually fell out of a back of a picture fame
Speaker 4: that I was putting away. That was an ap article
Speaker 4: from nineteen ninety four when the IDF the Israelis were
Speaker 4: leaving Gaza and they were being attacked by kids, and
Speaker 4: the kids were shouting, we don't want peace. And to
Speaker 4: me that was a matter of intelligence because those very
Speaker 4: kids were the leaders now and this is all an
Speaker 4: extension of Iran, and so it's really difficult to deal
Speaker 4: with a group of people that don't want peace. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's not part of their mission statement, it's not really
Speaker 4: what they're seeking. So I think it's going to be
Speaker 4: interesting to see how this the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 4: because that is the mindset of the enemy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and we've been fighting them, Brad for you know
Speaker 3: fifth I was a little kid in nineteen eighty for
Speaker 3: Crime out Loud and you know you were as well.
Speaker 3: And we've busts our whole lives some fifty years of
Speaker 3: this nonsense. And I don't think any no one's losing
Speaker 3: any slap. I'm certainly not, and you're not. If we
Speaker 3: go and shoot the missiles and bring a ran back
Speaker 3: to maybe take their nuclear capabilities down an option and
Speaker 3: kind of like what Israel does to their surrounding nations.
Speaker 3: I mean, they'll launch a missile attack and okay, there's
Speaker 3: a message to back off. But this is a different
Speaker 3: move entirely because we're talking about a you know, the
Speaker 3: threat was a wide scale destruction of an entire civilization. Basically,
Speaker 3: you know, he threatened genocide is what it was. We
Speaker 3: let's call it what it is. You know that, and
Speaker 3: you mentioned you know it's there's no bad side. I
Speaker 3: think the bad side to it though, oh no love
Speaker 3: lost about regime chains there. But you know, when when
Speaker 3: the president acts like he does. We saw what the
Speaker 3: markets do. We saw gas does. A lot of our allies,
Speaker 3: which we still need allies in this world, are going,
Speaker 3: what is this guy doing when we you know when?
Speaker 3: And I think the ultimate thing here is the fact
Speaker 3: that Congress is completely absent here.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 3: You know, if we're going to go attack a country,
Speaker 3: I understand why we would do that to protect our
Speaker 3: national interests. For sure, we don't need Iran getting nuclear
Speaker 3: weapons and weaponizing nuclear energy. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: Congress has a role in this, and that is they
Speaker 3: set the guidelines up and the guardrails up rather for
Speaker 3: the president to do what he wants to do. And
Speaker 3: most of the well all of them are back home
Speaker 3: now on break, and they're you know, I looked at
Speaker 3: the social feeds from our representatives and they're talking about
Speaker 3: everything but aroand most of them. That's troubling to me.
Speaker 3: But we have Congress there for a reason. They're not
Speaker 3: doing their job.
Speaker 4: Well. I might say this a little bit tongue in
Speaker 4: cheek as a former congressman. Sometimes it's not bad one
Speaker 4: members of Congress are at home, indeed.
Speaker 3: But I think it is now we need we need
Speaker 3: Congress to say, hey, listen, your powers that do something.
Speaker 4: Well, at least a resolution on where we stand and
Speaker 4: at least a sense of congress of what they would
Speaker 4: like to see achieved. That that certainly can be done.
Speaker 4: And I would agree with you there. You know, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of rhetoric, and and the president's criticized often
Speaker 4: for his rhetoric, no doubt about it. It's interesting the
Speaker 4: criticism wasn't there when Obama went into Libya to take
Speaker 4: out Kadafi. So you get politics involved all the time,
Speaker 4: and the conversation now about destroying a civilization. Let's let's
Speaker 4: let's be serious about one thing. What was going on
Speaker 4: in Iran is not a civilization to speak up, you know,
Speaker 4: let's start with the root of the word civil and
Speaker 4: that implies by definition, you know, politeness and courteousness and
Speaker 4: a social structure. But they're killing their own unarmed citizens.
Speaker 4: I mean, that is not a civilization to speak up,
Speaker 4: per se. And so I think that so far we
Speaker 4: really have been pretty surgical to the Israelis as well.
Speaker 4: On war. There's always bad things that happen, no doubt
Speaker 4: about it. But I'm sitting here as somebody who spent
Speaker 4: a year in Iraq and I saw our American soldiers
Speaker 4: and marines blown into pieces. I saw them and had
Speaker 4: to do amputations on many of them. This was all
Speaker 4: done by Iran. And when does it end? And you know,
Speaker 4: certainly diplomacy has been tried and tried again. The Obama
Speaker 4: administration even tried paying them off, and they never stopped
Speaker 4: doing what they're doing. So I don't know the answer
Speaker 4: long term, but something's got to end, and this is
Speaker 4: a president that is trying to do something about it.
Speaker 4: There'll be mistakes made, there always are in war, but
Speaker 4: I think if we continue to be surgical by and large, look,
Speaker 4: we don't want to ruin all their assets, so they
Speaker 4: can't be even at a country of any type of
Speaker 4: the regime is gone, and I think we're seeing that.
Speaker 4: So rhetoric is one thing. Actions speak louder.
Speaker 2: Than words, no question.
Speaker 3: And you know when you talk about doing that though,
Speaker 3: or taking out these salination stations, or taking out infrastructure
Speaker 3: and bridges, and you know when you say that, and
Speaker 3: granted it's rhetoric, but we don't know that because you
Speaker 3: know what you don't know. No one knows what this
Speaker 3: president's going to do. That's the other part of the
Speaker 3: issue is he's going to do what he sees fit.
Speaker 3: Congress is just going to stand by and go, Okay,
Speaker 3: we'll do what you want to do. That's really not
Speaker 3: how our system was set up. But on that point,
Speaker 3: about those people who want freedom inside Iran, they want
Speaker 3: to go back pre nineteen seventy nine and have a
Speaker 3: democratic nation as opposed to what they've sought for from
Speaker 3: the last fifty years, I think the free world's completely
Speaker 3: behind them. But the same time, you know, if you
Speaker 3: do things like that where there's collateral damage, all you're
Speaker 3: doing is you're now creating the next generation of anti
Speaker 3: American sediment there and guaranteeing that totalitarism will continue there
Speaker 3: if you wind up taking out the people you need
Speaker 3: to support you from inside the country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if that is done, if it's and that was.
Speaker 3: So, that was a threat, and I think that's you know, now,
Speaker 3: obviously this was a negotiation and we kind of thought
Speaker 3: that all on. But again there's always that Trump wildcard.
Speaker 3: You don't know what he's going to do now. Only
Speaker 3: he knows what he's going to do, and that may
Speaker 3: change from one minute to the next. I guess the
Speaker 3: other thing in here too, Brad. I'm looking at the
Speaker 3: ten points, and the whole reason we did this was
Speaker 3: to get you know, take their nuclear armaments off the
Speaker 3: table and take them back years and years and years
Speaker 3: as far as weaponization goes. But the other thing was
Speaker 3: regime change. That Trump said, you know, hey, we're going
Speaker 3: to prove who the next head of state there is.
Speaker 3: I don't see that in the ten Points that that
Speaker 3: kind of got lost in the mix there.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 4: I don't know, That's something that's maybe behind closed doors
Speaker 4: at this time and not something that he wants to
Speaker 4: have out on the table. But you know, if you
Speaker 4: look at what happened in Venezuela, which unfortunately was very
Speaker 4: swift and over quickly, it seems now there is some
Speaker 4: communication and some negotiation that can take place with the
Speaker 4: people that are in charge there today. And I think
Speaker 4: that that is ideally what the President would like to
Speaker 4: see happen in Iran, is that we can have someone reasonable,
Speaker 4: perhaps even peace loving, they can be in charge in
Speaker 4: Iran and lead their people to a brighter day. I
Speaker 4: don't think the intent is there necessarily to destroy everything,
Speaker 4: but I think this president is posturing that we are determined,
Speaker 4: that we are going to make this change because we're
Speaker 4: not going to have a continuation of the last forty
Speaker 4: seven years. The world doesn't deserve it. And when I
Speaker 4: see all this condemnation of his rhetoric, I don't see
Speaker 4: the condemnation from the same people that would address the
Speaker 4: last forty seven years of what they have done. I
Speaker 4: don't see them complaining that they've killed their own people.
Speaker 4: I don't see them complaining they've been killing Americans for
Speaker 4: forty seven years, killing Israelis. I don't see the condemnation,
Speaker 4: even from the Pope, of what they have been doing
Speaker 4: for so long. You're free to condemn what the president
Speaker 4: is saying, but have you considered condemning what they have
Speaker 4: actually been doing? And that that's interesting to me that
Speaker 4: that doesn't happen. I don't understand why the world is
Speaker 4: willing to turn a blind eye. And for me it
Speaker 4: is personal, Scott, because I have seen the damage firsthand
Speaker 4: of what they have done in Americans and to our soldiers.
Speaker 3: Been going on for fifty something year, for almost fifty
Speaker 3: years at this point, and you're right, you know, we've
Speaker 3: tried to plumbas we've tried every single angle, and maybe
Speaker 3: the way to do, and as I said, the way
Speaker 3: to deal with that seeming the only one is you're
Speaker 3: not going to solve it. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 3: that all of a sudden, the RAN's gonna wake up
Speaker 3: and we're gonna have a regime change, and you know
Speaker 3: they're going to be Canada light. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: you know, I think you go in and surgical strikes
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, I think are warranted. We've seen Israel
Speaker 3: do this time and time again. We did it to
Speaker 3: some degree in Venezuela with success. Same thing here. It's like,
Speaker 3: unless you play ball, we're gonna come out every few years,
Speaker 3: we're going to set your nuclear arms race back five
Speaker 3: ten years, and we're going to do it over again.
Speaker 3: So you decide it's going to be different because we
Speaker 3: hold the cards and you don't. Now shutting down the
Speaker 3: straight of our moves of courses is causing a lot
Speaker 3: of frustration. I don't know if there's any guarantees they
Speaker 3: can keep that open. But brad Winstrip, you know you're
Speaker 3: on the Intelligence Advisory Board, and Pakistan brokeer this pause
Speaker 3: or the ceasefire. That's the same Pakistan that had Osama
Speaker 3: bin Laden for years. You know our front of me Pakistan.
Speaker 3: How much do you trust Islamabad as a as a
Speaker 3: mediator here? What's that for them?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, these situations often make strange bed fellows,
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. And you take what you
Speaker 4: can get and you have a conversation. So in that
Speaker 4: vein for those that complain that we need to rely
Speaker 4: on dialogue and have discussions, why would you not have
Speaker 4: perhaps a controversial entity involved with the dialogue, right, And
Speaker 4: so I don't think that there's anything wrong with that
Speaker 4: when you're trying to accomplish a goal, which which ultimately
Speaker 4: is peace and for a ran to be part of
Speaker 4: the global community in a peaceful way where we can
Speaker 4: all live together. And you know, something that I think
Speaker 4: can sum up where I am and what I see
Speaker 4: for the United States and what I think by and
Speaker 4: large United States has been, especially when it comes to
Speaker 4: our military, is I want evildoers to fear us, and
Speaker 4: I want those in needs to pray for our arrival.
Speaker 4: We have done that time and time again throughout our
Speaker 4: history and it's not always pretty, but that's the world
Speaker 4: that we live in. And I think that the United
Speaker 4: States does have some moral high ground on a lot
Speaker 4: of on a lot of fronts and what the enemy,
Speaker 4: but the the enemy is today that we haven't ran
Speaker 4: is just relentless, I mean, and kind of and kind
Speaker 4: of a sick but humorous way. What I've seen from
Speaker 4: them is is not a care for what's going to
Speaker 4: happen uh to to their country if they continue this.
Speaker 4: They're defeated in so many ways. They are defeated, and
Speaker 4: they will continue to be defeated, but they want to
Speaker 4: keep going. You've probably seen Monty Python. I just can't
Speaker 4: help but think about the guy whose arms and legers
Speaker 4: cut off and.
Speaker 5: To come back here.
Speaker 4: I'll fight your head off.
Speaker 5: Right right, I don't get this.
Speaker 2: I'll gum you to death, that is. But I know
Speaker 2: you're right about this.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, well we'll watch some we'll launch some weapons,
Speaker 3: wipe them out, and we'll just keep hitting the reset
Speaker 3: button time and time again. I don't know what the
Speaker 3: long play there. I just don't think there's an answer.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's we just keep hitting them every
Speaker 3: few years and hope that there's some regime change there.
Speaker 3: Although you know, we're led to believe that somehow that
Speaker 3: the son is gentler than the father. And then there
Speaker 3: are other people say no, that exact opposite is true.
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens there. I know that there's
Speaker 3: plenty of Iranians that want freedom. They want to go
Speaker 3: back because they heard about the good old days from
Speaker 3: their ancestors pre nineteen seventy nine and how good life
Speaker 3: was inside Iran and see things seem to be a
Speaker 3: lot better then. But the problem is you have a
Speaker 3: regime there and that's encouraged to continue to commit the
Speaker 3: atrocities that have been committing. I just I'm glad to
Speaker 3: see that there's a ceasefire here for two weeks. What
Speaker 3: do you think do you think there's an opportunity for
Speaker 3: lasting piece here now?
Speaker 4: My gut feeling is they won't go down easily this
Speaker 4: cease fire. What I've seen them do, what we've seen
Speaker 4: now really for decades, is they use these types of
Speaker 4: opportunities just to put things off, yeah, and to run
Speaker 4: this out and then continue on their merry way. So
Speaker 4: I have a hard time thinking that this will be
Speaker 4: the end of it. But if you don't have the discussion,
Speaker 4: then you can never get anywhere. So hopefully this can
Speaker 4: bring a better day, And wouldn't it be wonderful if
Speaker 4: it does. So you know, you never say never, and
Speaker 4: you never say what you'll never do. Those are all
Speaker 4: the things that go into when you're talking about war
Speaker 4: and negotiations. So we'll see what comes comes out of this.
Speaker 4: But it's a huge trust but verify because we've got
Speaker 4: really almost fifty years of them just going back on
Speaker 4: anything they might try and say or do, and paying
Speaker 4: them didn't help. They continue to drive on and so
Speaker 4: we've learned a lot of lessons over these years, and
Speaker 4: it makes it even tougher for the Iranians at this
Speaker 4: point because they obviously cannot be trusted. They will lie,
Speaker 4: and they will go back on their word time and
Speaker 4: time again, and we have to recognize that and understand
Speaker 4: that that's the position this president is in as you
Speaker 4: try to go about seeking peace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean, why circle back in two weeks
Speaker 3: because I have a feeling in that two weeks is
Speaker 3: probably gonna feel like two years. And I hope and
Speaker 3: pray in two weeks that we can come to terms
Speaker 3: with them and vice versa and tamp this thing down.
Speaker 2: I just want to know.
Speaker 3: I guess in two weeks we'll find out why we
Speaker 3: did this in the first place, and what we get
Speaker 3: out of it. He is Retired US Congressman brad Winstrip
Speaker 3: on The Scott Sloan Show this morning, sits on the
Speaker 3: President's Intelligence Advisory Board. Of course when he was in
Speaker 3: office on the House Permanent Self Committee and Intelligence. Thanks
Speaker 3: again for taking time out of the VAYCA. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, and no problem. You know, the world keeps
Speaker 4: turning and we got to turn with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, my friend be well. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Thanks Scott.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Brad Winstrip on the Scott Sloan Show this morning. Here
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Speaker 3: Thanks again to retired Congressman brad Weinstrup, but he is
Speaker 3: still active as he sits on the Potus's Intelligence Advisory Board, saying, oh,
Speaker 3: I know stuff, but I can't tell you stuff that's fair.
Speaker 2: That's fair, and obviously he is very very pro Trump.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 3: I you know, as someone who tends to be more
Speaker 3: I guess maybe straight shooter with you, and certainly celebrating
Speaker 3: some of the victories in there, and the fact that
Speaker 3: we're not blowing a country off the face of the
Speaker 3: earth is a significant victory. The markets are responding right now,
Speaker 3: the Dow is off like a rocket, like literally, like
Speaker 3: maybe if this is Artemis three, it is up right
Speaker 3: now over thirteen hundred points. That's a hell of a bounce.
Speaker 3: That's a hell of a bounce. Now, could something stupid
Speaker 3: happen in the Strait and we go back down thirteen
Speaker 3: hundred points, Absolutely, and it might even happen by the
Speaker 3: time we end our little conversation here.
Speaker 2: It's just how it is.
Speaker 3: I look at this and all right, Well, the initial
Speaker 3: ten point plan that Iran presented, they said, hey, we
Speaker 3: want guarantees we won't be attacked again. We want us
Speaker 3: to lift all sanctions in Israel, to end strikes in Lebanon,
Speaker 3: and the straight of Hormuz control is we're going to
Speaker 3: come up with a plan for safe passage. By the way,
Speaker 3: we're going to charge you a million and a mom's
Speaker 3: going to charge you a million to pass to for
Speaker 3: a ship. The pass which sounds like a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Two million dollars feet per ship, but you're talking about
Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars aboard that, if not more.
Speaker 3: And the President said this is a significant step, but
Speaker 3: not good enough. Now that was just a couple of
Speaker 3: days ago. The question is what's changed in this relationship
Speaker 3: because in there and this is the problem that I
Speaker 3: kind of have with it, we'll see if we can
Speaker 3: hold this thing together. The idea that Iran is coming from,
Speaker 3: at least from my reading this is that Taran sees
Speaker 3: his point as this ten point plan is they have
Speaker 3: a position of strength.
Speaker 2: They're not desperate.
Speaker 3: And they described the product of you know this this
Speaker 3: two week pause that we're having right now with ceasefire.
Speaker 2: They didn't want to do that.
Speaker 3: So they came the table said, okay, we want to
Speaker 3: we don't want a temporary so we want a permanent
Speaker 3: end of the war. We don't want temporary pauses here.
Speaker 3: And I think it's pretty ballsy for them to go, yeah,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna we're gonna tax you two million dollars
Speaker 3: per ship.
Speaker 2: And so it's a shakedown, is what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, what they don't they don't really can they
Speaker 3: I guess, militarily control it, but they're monetizing a choke
Speaker 3: point they don't legally control. They have the legal right
Speaker 3: to charge your feet, nor I guess did the United
Speaker 3: States when he said, now we're the one that's going
Speaker 3: to charge this. And the other element of this too is,
Speaker 3: you know, the the whole reason we got involved in
Speaker 3: the first place. Yeah, the nuclear end of this thing.
Speaker 3: But also what about regime change. I don't see anything
Speaker 3: there akin to regime change. That was one of the
Speaker 3: big sticking points for the president, saying, well, we're going
Speaker 3: to have a new head and there we're going to
Speaker 3: get to say who it is that that's kind of
Speaker 3: gone by the wayside. So is it Trump being Trump
Speaker 3: and just thrown a bunch of stuff at the wall
Speaker 3: and sea with sticks?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But you know, when when you say these things, people go,
Speaker 3: didn't you just tell me that, you know, this night
Speaker 3: we're going to wipe them off the face of the earth.
Speaker 3: And now we got a two week pause for what
Speaker 3: looks like so far a deal that we already had
Speaker 3: in place to begin with. So I have a hard
Speaker 3: time understand what's going on here, he said. Trump said
Speaker 3: that the response is significant. Not good enough last time
Speaker 3: with this. But the core problem with the plan is
Speaker 3: the nuclear file. And I'm with Trump on this. The
Speaker 3: idea that they have a nuclear weapon or close to
Speaker 3: a WAKELA. We can't have that. That's the number he said,
Speaker 3: number one, number two, number three. Absolutely, the ten points
Speaker 3: don't really say anything about dismantling their richment capability or
Speaker 3: transferring enriched uranium in the stockpile they sett all along.
Speaker 3: It's like, listen, you've got to transfer that stockpile to
Speaker 3: a third country, and Iran wants to keep it inside
Speaker 3: its borders. And so that's why that's why he said
Speaker 3: complete demolition of bridges and power plants and desalination stations
Speaker 3: and the like within four hours if four moves isn't reopened. Uh,
Speaker 3: And they're in the process of doing that right now.
Speaker 3: But I don't see any nuclear things and you know,
Speaker 3: anything that'dress in the nuclear issue either. So it's the
Speaker 3: question to be a skeptic is what are we actually
Speaker 3: getting out of this thing?
Speaker 2: Would be the question.
Speaker 3: And if we if everything stays the same, then why
Speaker 3: do we go and launches attacks?
Speaker 2: Uh, it's been one of those things.
Speaker 3: We completely wiped him out they have no military for way,
Speaker 3: we can do whatever we want there. And then they
Speaker 3: shoot down, you know, a couple of our planes. Well,
Speaker 3: if you don't have the if we wiped everything out,
Speaker 3: how is that possible unless it just fell out to
Speaker 3: the sky, which of course it did not. So I
Speaker 3: get it. You got to take it with a grain
Speaker 3: of salt. But when you start talking about things like this,
Speaker 3: we kind of want to know the details, to which
Speaker 3: I would ask Brad weinstrip. I was saying, Okay, the
Speaker 3: idea here is that Congress should be having some oversight here,
Speaker 3: and they haven't had any, and that is a huge
Speaker 3: part of the problem because Congress has, you know, let
Speaker 3: executive order run amuck. In my opinion, and yeah, and
Speaker 3: I agree with Brad on this. It's not just Trump.
Speaker 3: I mean, this has been good. This is going on
Speaker 3: under Biden, not to the maybe not even to this level.
Speaker 3: But each president will take it a step further. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if it's a Democrat or Republican. You criticize
Speaker 3: the guy before you go by God, look at all
Speaker 3: the money they're spending, and they're spending money hand over.
Speaker 3: If we can't afford any of this stuff, we can't
Speaker 3: afford it. And then the next guy comes in and goes,
Speaker 3: I can't increase the national duffica. I watch this and
Speaker 3: that is the problem that I have with politics is
Speaker 3: the me tooisms. It's always well Obama did okay, great,
Speaker 3: but we're here today and yeah, we've tried different things,
Speaker 3: diploma scene everything for fifty years roughly, and it hasn't worked.
Speaker 3: And we're still here with the RAM getting nukes. So
Speaker 3: I have no problem with them going and setting them
Speaker 3: back a few years, as we just did with a strike.
Speaker 3: I know there's people to disagree, well, you need the
Speaker 3: war powers acting like yeah, but Congress isn't doing a
Speaker 3: damn thing. And I think Congress is complicit in this
Speaker 3: whole thing as well right now. And it goes to show you,
Speaker 3: you know, they're congressmen and they're own district right now.
Speaker 2: I know Brad not.
Speaker 3: Greg Lansman got press release this morning that came into
Speaker 3: came into my inbox. It's about I don't get money
Speaker 3: for Winton Hills or something that's good, but the big
Speaker 3: issues of the war. So I understand, you can't go back
Speaker 3: to Congress and some guide rails on, some guardrails up
Speaker 3: for this thing. They're the ones that should be doing this.
Speaker 3: You know, how much further do we want to get
Speaker 3: involved in this because it's costing resources and lives for
Speaker 3: that matter. So that's where things stands right now. So
Speaker 3: two weeks it's gonna be a fragile piece. Now we
Speaker 3: heard that in you know Israel. Ah, we got we
Speaker 3: got a deal in place, and then well, you know,
Speaker 3: one side acts up and we're back to where we went.
Speaker 3: But it's going to be a minute here and I'll
Speaker 3: have an oil man on later. I'm gonna actually have
Speaker 3: landman on. I'm having Billy Bob Thornton at eleven oh seven.
Speaker 3: His name is Jay Young, but it's Billy Bob Thornton.
Speaker 3: He's an actual landman to talk about what happens with
Speaker 3: oil because from what I'm looking at, you go, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, we saw oil go down what fifteen percent
Speaker 3: and a few hours after the ceasefire agreement, So how
Speaker 3: long do those prices stick around? You think, wow, we're
Speaker 3: going to see huge dropping oil prices the pump and
Speaker 3: we're like right around four. I think a little less
Speaker 3: than four is the average here in the Trin state,
Speaker 3: and that's still pretty high considering you know, we're closer
Speaker 3: to three before a while ago, it seems like a
Speaker 3: while ago. Well we ever see that again. And from
Speaker 3: everything I've read, all is Jay Young about this at
Speaker 3: eleven oh six? The answer is no, because the problem
Speaker 3: is this, we have turned the spick it off. It's
Speaker 3: not like you go, Okay, we got this oil, we'll
Speaker 3: just start moving it again. They shut production down and
Speaker 3: it's going to take a while to ramp all that
Speaker 3: stuff back up again because they don't have the storage.
Speaker 3: You know, they're doing I think nine million barrels a
Speaker 3: day of crude. And when you're pumping that out and
Speaker 3: they go, akay, we're gonna stop shipping this. It's not
Speaker 3: like you got you know, you know, I got a
Speaker 3: bunch empty bottles laying around, so they have no to
Speaker 3: store it for oil they couldn't ship, So those wells
Speaker 3: aren't going to just restart on command. So there's going
Speaker 3: to be a ramp up there. And then you look
Speaker 3: at what's happening with Russia. You look at what's happening
Speaker 3: with these strategic patrol and misserve which we tapped into.
Speaker 3: We look at the summer blends coming in. I mentioned
Speaker 3: the Russian oil exemptions, all these all these things we
Speaker 3: had before. The well literally and figuratively is a little
Speaker 3: bit dry right now. So I'd imagine from what I
Speaker 3: saw that these high prices are going to be around
Speaker 3: for a while.
Speaker 2: I know that the GOP.
Speaker 3: Doesn't want to hear this because well, certainly affordability is
Speaker 3: a big issue, and you look at the higher and
Speaker 3: inflated gas prices. This is as a field day for Democrats,
Speaker 3: is what it is. And the prices aren't I don't
Speaker 3: think they're going to drop anytime soon according to the experts.
Speaker 3: I'm not one of them. I just go on what
Speaker 3: I read and what I see, and I guess that
Speaker 3: makes sense that if you shut it down, it's going
Speaker 3: to take a while for production to ramp back up again.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, you know, we have a natural
Speaker 3: disaster and it takes what one oil rig, one platform,
Speaker 3: one refinery to go down. And that's how this how
Speaker 3: thin the margins are, it causes the whole system to collapse.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of where we are right now. And
Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is, even with a ceasefire,
Speaker 3: it goes to show you that Iran wrongly can shut
Speaker 3: down twenty percent of the world's oil supply and bring
Speaker 3: the world to its knees in about six seven weeks.
Speaker 3: That's something that's not going away. I think that's the
Speaker 3: core problem. This whole thing is the straight ofh hor
Speaker 3: moves is the problem. And there's no work around for that,
Speaker 3: at least right now in our lifetime. So that's what
Speaker 3: we got going on here. So it was pretty good
Speaker 3: night though. I mean, you know, we averted war. We
Speaker 3: didn't have to wipe out an entire civilization, commit genocide,
Speaker 3: none of that stuff, none of that Ichy stuff. And
Speaker 3: the Reds one, how about that big come from behind
Speaker 3: win last night. And I think the markets are responding
Speaker 3: right now more to the Reds winning and that come
Speaker 3: from behind win sixty to two last night than this
Speaker 3: this little oil thing. The market's up almost fourteen hundred
Speaker 3: points right now, it's not about almost three percent. That's incredible,
Speaker 3: absolutely incredible because the Reds won last night.
Speaker 2: That's why.
Speaker 3: That's why, so I have at least split the series
Speaker 3: in Miami, going for the series win tonight six point
Speaker 3: forty here on seven hundred ww and then day baseball tomorrow,
Speaker 3: by the way, early day tomorrow eleven o'clock, and so
Speaker 3: I don't think we've had an inside pitch at early
Speaker 3: ever eleven o'clock inside pitch here on the big one.
Speaker 3: It's fun when they're winning. Then it's fun when they're winning.
Speaker 3: You know that stupid, silly, disgusting, and I should erase
Speaker 3: that from strict they'll strike that from the record. The
Speaker 3: audacity of people to raise money for the hint And
Speaker 3: family and the murder of Larry Henderson. But we saw
Speaker 3: the power of crowdsourcing that there's lesson. You could be
Speaker 3: the most screwball individual, criminal ahole in the world and
Speaker 3: somebody will feel bad for you and do a GoFundMe.
Speaker 3: I think that's the lesson here. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: people out there willing to and we talk about, you know,
Speaker 3: the government taking money away, and we've always been a
Speaker 3: nation that has prided ourselves on generosity. A lot of
Speaker 3: people here will volunteer. You volunteer for causes, You give
Speaker 3: time telling the treasure, because that's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: If you have the time, you volunteer it. If you
Speaker 3: have talent the ability to do something, you volunteer that.
Speaker 3: If you are blessed to have means and you have
Speaker 3: some extra. It's treasure. A combination one or a combination
Speaker 3: of those things is wonderful. And I think we do
Speaker 3: a great job of that, especially here in the Trian Date.
Speaker 3: And I think you know, when it comes to corporate donations,
Speaker 3: obviously corporate America gets a bad rap, but look at
Speaker 3: all the things like people like Bill Gates, people like
Speaker 3: Sorrows and other source Bezos and others do with their money.
Speaker 3: You know, they they lift up, but they don't get
Speaker 3: credit for it because you know they're rich moguls. And
Speaker 3: you get to a point in America where rich mogel
Speaker 3: everybody hates on you. But when you're on the rise,
Speaker 3: say love. It's a great story till you make it
Speaker 3: and then everyone turns on hates you and you do
Speaker 3: great things with your money. In this case, the go
Speaker 3: fundme thing, I think it's more for people like me
Speaker 3: and you. You know, you may not have hundreds of
Speaker 3: millions of dollars like Bezos, but if you had ten bucks,
Speaker 3: would you give it? Would you donate? Andy GoFundMe? I'd
Speaker 3: like to start one for this lady. This is out
Speaker 3: in Lynchburg, Virginia. She's a school bus driver. She is
Speaker 3: seventy three years old. Her name is Effie Wynn and
Speaker 3: she was charged was strangling a student. She's a bus driver.
Speaker 3: Police were called to a disorderly it's an elementary school
Speaker 3: on top of it, please show up. They investigate the
Speaker 3: bus driver choked the student on the bus while parking
Speaker 3: the school school parking lot, and they have substanted the
Speaker 3: child is safe and did not sustain life threatening injuries,
Speaker 3: according to police. Seventy three years old. You know how
Speaker 3: much life can you strangle out of someone? The other factor,
Speaker 3: you need to hear this. I cannot wait to hear
Speaker 3: what the kid did to get the school bus driver
Speaker 3: to string You know the way kids are today and
Speaker 3: we as parents were the problem.
Speaker 2: It's not the kid. Kids are such a problem.
Speaker 3: No, it's the parents that are the problem because they
Speaker 3: don't tell our kids no, we don't correct their behavior,
Speaker 3: and then when they act like fools like this, it's
Speaker 3: not surprising that someone who's seventy three has had enough.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you the kid was doing or saying something
Speaker 3: that he or she shouldn't have been. It's hard to say, yeah,
Speaker 3: I want my bus drivers strangle with my kids. But
Speaker 3: I get where a bus driperty from teachers all the time,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure there's a lot of teachers that are
Speaker 3: quietly applauding Ellie Wins seventy three for choking this kid,
Speaker 3: sending a message to these other kids, like I'm the
Speaker 3: adult here, kid. I'm sure there's people right now that are,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I can't you believe you're condoning strangling children.
Speaker 2: They're poor babies.
Speaker 3: Now, your kid's an a hole, just like you, guarantee
Speaker 3: you it wasn't long ago where the kid I heard that,
Speaker 3: my son.
Speaker 2: He was actually it's a really good kid.
Speaker 3: He did something in first grade and I think it
Speaker 3: was I know, he's throwing something up in the air
Speaker 3: and hit a light and broken, and he got in
Speaker 3: trouble and he got punished at school, and then of
Speaker 3: course when he got home, the real punishment began. And
Speaker 3: I don't think that kid has acted up ever since.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm with a boy. I know I'm pretty
Speaker 3: lucky that way, but it's because hey, look, you know what,
Speaker 3: I got to go in and clean up your mess,
Speaker 3: and I got to go talk to the principal and
Speaker 3: everybody else. And there's a light that's broken and they
Speaker 3: didn't charge you for it, but they should, so you
Speaker 3: know they put him they I think, I don't know
Speaker 3: what he got detention wise, coupled a's or something like that,
Speaker 3: No big deal, but the punishment home was far worse.
Speaker 3: And we just don't do that anymore, not today, a
Speaker 3: different generation. And I saw like an old man, but
Speaker 3: I think it stands up. You know, no one's accountable
Speaker 3: for anything anymore, and you wonder why we have these
Speaker 3: problems that we do in society. And I know accountability
Speaker 3: has been dying for a long time, but more so
Speaker 3: today now than or before because no one wants to.
Speaker 3: I hell, our judges don't help criminals accountable anymore. Why
Speaker 3: do you think they're going to go back and do
Speaker 3: what they just did on your pinky promise? You pinky
Speaker 3: promise not to go and commit another felony. Okay, you
Speaker 3: gave me your word, but you told me a minute
Speaker 3: ago you wouldn't do it again. That you get for
Speaker 3: being gullible and stupid. We got to get back to
Speaker 3: keeping that pinpan strong. As they say in the case,
Speaker 3: here's guarantee you. No one else said the stones to
Speaker 3: step up to this kid who's terrorizing everybody else in school,
Speaker 3: I'm sure, including the bus driver. And she's seventy three,
Speaker 3: and she's seen enough and she's had enough. I don't
Speaker 3: blame her, quite honestly. It started GoFundMe for for Ellie
Speaker 3: Winn love that story. How about a news update and
Speaker 3: the very latest from around the world. Of course, we've
Speaker 3: averted destroying an entire country. So your globe, that globe
Speaker 3: you have in your corner office next year, Decanter or Brandy,
Speaker 3: is fine, at least for right now. We don't have
Speaker 3: to redraw the map lines anytime soon. Red's win big
Speaker 3: last night in Miami, a huge ninth inning come from behind,
Speaker 3: and more to follow here Scott's loan show. I got
Speaker 3: something a little I don't know. This is not lighter necessarily.
Speaker 3: We just had the rescue of the pilots and the CIA,
Speaker 3: if you knew, that was a big part of that too,
Speaker 3: because they ran a distraction campaign to allow the operators
Speaker 3: to come in and extract the pilot. CIA used to
Speaker 3: get a lot more play in books and movies and
Speaker 3: of course scandals and things like that. The CIA, they're
Speaker 3: watching everybody. You just don't hear about them. Anymore, what
Speaker 3: the hell's going on over there at the CIA. Clearly
Speaker 3: they're still in business and did great work this past weekend.
Speaker 3: Nick Reynolds, a former CIA agent, is here to talk
Speaker 3: about the that perspective on what the rescue was about,
Speaker 3: loss of the history and why we need them Just
Speaker 3: ahead here on the Scott's Loan Show, seven hundred WLWT,
Speaker 3: Cincinnati being Amfican. So let me here on seven hundred
Speaker 3: WLW celebrating a double last night or maybe just a pause.
Speaker 3: I suppose it's a two week seasfire between the United
Speaker 3: States and Iran. We'll see where this thing goes, if anywhere.
Speaker 3: But part of the success story, of course, is the
Speaker 3: rescuing of an airman who was shot down behind enemy lines.
Speaker 3: We know the story in the narrative now, and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of cool technology and things going on. But
Speaker 3: when you have Coelteam six operators and others involved in
Speaker 3: the rescue, that is one thing. But the organization did
Speaker 3: hear a lot about until this happened, is the Central
Speaker 3: Intelligence Agency. A lot of shows and books have been
Speaker 3: written about the CIA, but for some reason, we just
Speaker 3: kind of like forget that they're there and they were
Speaker 3: a huge part in this rescue operation because they operated
Speaker 3: a disinformation campaign to trick the Iranians into thinking the
Speaker 3: pilot was somewhere where he wasn't, so they could go
Speaker 3: extract them.
Speaker 2: Really really cool stuff.
Speaker 3: And you know, as we take a pause in the
Speaker 3: activities in the Middle East right now, and a deserved
Speaker 3: two week pause for sure, at least hopefully it's gonna
Speaker 3: be two weeks, they took a look at the CIA
Speaker 3: for just a second and what it is they were
Speaker 3: formed to do and what they do now on that
Speaker 3: is Nick Reynolds. Nick is a former CIA guy, analyst
Speaker 3: and operative too, and he is a guy who knows
Speaker 3: the stuff that we're not supposed to know about.
Speaker 2: That's the key.
Speaker 4: Ain't good morning, Nick, Hope you're well, good morning, I'm
Speaker 4: doing well.
Speaker 3: That's it, right, it's the stuff we're not right there,
Speaker 3: we're not stuff we're not supposed to know about. So
Speaker 3: they have a huge role in what just happened, the
Speaker 3: rescue of the down pilot inside Iran. And we've heard
Speaker 3: about the CIA over the years and a nefarious and
Speaker 3: it's kind of quiet now. So let for perspective here,
Speaker 3: let's go back to when it began in nineteen forty five.
Speaker 6: So you start at the beginning of the war. Absolutely,
Speaker 6: you know, everyone's in his own little siloed doing his thing,
Speaker 6: and there's very little communication between the various silos. I
Speaker 6: think one of the Navy codebreakers that the worst thing
Speaker 6: you could do was have a relationship of a professional
Speaker 6: relationship with an army code breaker. I mean that was
Speaker 6: was like, yeah that, yes, there's the Germans of the
Speaker 6: Japanese out there, but the threat that we really care
Speaker 6: about if you seemed that some at some point to
Speaker 6: be the other service. So by the end of the war,
Speaker 6: we're a little better at this, especially the code breakers
Speaker 6: are getting along with each other. But we you know,
Speaker 6: we're and we're starting to see that the foundations being
Speaker 6: board of the other agencies, and so we we try
Speaker 6: to figure out how they should how the buildings should
Speaker 6: go up, and you know, what connections there should be
Speaker 6: between them. So, yeah, it's a rambling answer, but bottom
Speaker 6: line is we you know, we start doing this in
Speaker 6: World War Two and we've we've kept doing it for
Speaker 6: the last seventy five years or.
Speaker 3: So, gotcha, And that's probably true all cases the history.
Speaker 3: I love looking back at history because it's a great
Speaker 3: indicator future behavior, but also how many times we repeat
Speaker 3: the same mistakes over and over. So what's interesting when
Speaker 3: intelligence gathering started World War Two, we're around that era
Speaker 3: and we've been doing it long before that. But the
Speaker 3: I guess maybe starting the modern are is that each agency, Army, Navy,
Speaker 3: all those things, air Corps, they'd have their own intel,
Speaker 3: but they wouldn't share because it was territorial. Certainly Germany
Speaker 3: and Japan and the axis was looked at the enemies,
Speaker 3: but so were the other competing agencies because you wanted
Speaker 3: to be the best. At some point somebody said, hey,
Speaker 3: we should collaborate, we should bring our resources together.
Speaker 2: But against repeated itself.
Speaker 3: We saw what happened in nine to eleven, right where
Speaker 3: the fire and police couldn't talk with the other. We
Speaker 3: had FBI, we had CIA, we had NSA. No one's
Speaker 3: sharing information about these potential terrorists. But we'd never learned
Speaker 3: from World War Two. Here it is the same situation developing.
Speaker 6: Well, it's hard for institutions to learn, and yeah, and
Speaker 6: you've got to figure out of way to the sort
Speaker 6: of formal and informal learning and every you know, how
Speaker 6: do you make sure that every rising group of leaders
Speaker 6: absorbs the lessons. So, yes, you can have schools and whatnot,
Speaker 6: but then you have to have like patterns of communication
Speaker 6: and behavior. The britsk kind of got it right. But
Speaker 6: they did it. They have advantages that we don't have.
Speaker 6: You know, sort of a homogeneous is the ruling class.
Speaker 6: It's very homogeneous, you know. They it was a much
Speaker 6: smaller country geographically, and they went to the same schools,
Speaker 6: they served in the same regiments. You know, Churchill when
Speaker 6: World War two breaks out, he has been in government
Speaker 6: since the beginning of the twentieth century, so he knows
Speaker 6: all the players. And he played a role in establishing
Speaker 6: the institutions m I five and I six. So it's
Speaker 6: a lot easier there here in this country, Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: much harder to get people going in the same direction. Uh,
Speaker 6: whether no matter what you're what what what the field
Speaker 6: of endeavor is?
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I think we're we're we're we're used to
Speaker 3: be more decentralized here, right, because we have federal we
Speaker 3: have states, we have county, we have local over there,
Speaker 3: it's different, right, It's see, you know, the federal government
Speaker 3: pretty much takes care of all that stuff and so
Speaker 3: you're training from an early age not to not not
Speaker 3: to think about competition and independence and things like that,
Speaker 3: and so for that in that regard it makes things easier, right,
Speaker 3: But when it comes to transparency and you know, being
Speaker 3: in touch with with local elements, I think our system
Speaker 3: is a little bit better in that regard, but that
Speaker 3: this is one of the downfalls of it.
Speaker 2: You tend to get territorial, right, There's.
Speaker 6: Pluses of minuses. So part of America's strengths is it
Speaker 6: is the fact that it's going in so many directions
Speaker 6: at once. Uh, there's a vibrancy to America that you
Speaker 6: don't have in European cultures. On the other hand, with
Speaker 6: signal like intelligence, where you need to have a coordinated efforts.
Speaker 6: They initially anyway in World War two, they definitely have
Speaker 6: the edge. They're the ones who they're probably the well,
Speaker 6: let's say at the government level. They are probably the
Speaker 6: world leaders. At the operational level, but Poviats are probably
Speaker 6: the world leaders because they know how to run espionage
Speaker 6: ops and special ops. They do a very good.
Speaker 4: Job of it.
Speaker 6: Psovia problem, of course is they've got a guy at
Speaker 6: the top who's who thinks he's his own you know.
Speaker 6: He thinks he can make the world do what he
Speaker 6: wants it to, and he ignores like there's a statistic
Speaker 6: out there. He gets like eighty two warnings that the
Speaker 6: Germans are going to attack in nineteen forty one, eighty two,
Speaker 6: and he disregards them all because he knows better, right
Speaker 6: he is.
Speaker 3: Nick Reynolds CIA retired and perspective on the rescue the
Speaker 3: daring rescue of the American pilots shot down at around
Speaker 3: last weekend. Uh and the c i A ran a
Speaker 3: great distraction campaign to allow our operators to go in
Speaker 3: and rescue, said pilot. So we're talking about the c
Speaker 3: i A, the history of the c i I guess because
Speaker 3: we kind of lost focus of them. You don't hear
Speaker 3: much about them anymore. When you do, it's in a
Speaker 3: movie or a book. And these are all super human
Speaker 3: freaks that are running around working for the c i A.
Speaker 6: Right, Well, you can't say I mean you get you
Speaker 6: get that, you gets dedicated. Mostly what you what c
Speaker 6: i A and any intelligence organization is a bureaucracy, and
Speaker 6: so what you what you What you want to know
Speaker 6: in the first place is does the bureaucracy work. Does
Speaker 6: it do what it's supposed to do. I don't think
Speaker 6: bureaucracy in itself is bad. The question is is it
Speaker 6: is it working or is it not working? And and so, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, when the process is good, then you get results.
Speaker 6: But it's you know, it's like it's like a lot
Speaker 6: of military activity. Uh you know, a year. I won't
Speaker 6: say boredom, but uh, you know, you get years of
Speaker 6: operation and then you got minutes or seconds of uh
Speaker 6: you know thing they're going.
Speaker 3: Down really exciting, and I gotta imagine largely a bunch
Speaker 3: of you know, I don't know, studious, nerdy type of
Speaker 3: people who are in you know, working a lot of
Speaker 3: algorithms and stuff like that, as opposed to the uh,
Speaker 3: the the black trench coat guy leaving markers and parks
Speaker 3: and picking up drops and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. Probably just a lot of people online.
Speaker 6: There's yeah, these days, right right, I was talking, I
Speaker 6: was talking to somebody, you know, and I'm not really
Speaker 6: a computer guy. I'm a little too old for that.
Speaker 6: But you know, these days, the world exists on that
Speaker 6: little screen and uh we were talking, Uh, collaborator of
Speaker 6: mine and I were talking a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 6: to a Marine Corps intelligence outfit, and you know, these
Speaker 6: guys are doing everything from within a command center in
Speaker 6: the United States and affecting operations uh overseas. That's the
Speaker 6: Marine course involved in. And so you know, that's how
Speaker 6: much it's shifted from from you know, you you around
Speaker 6: uh turn of the century to turn of the last century.
Speaker 6: I mean you you actually have people scouting out what's
Speaker 6: on the other side of the hill, right, so you
Speaker 6: climb to the top of the hill when you look.
Speaker 6: These days, you don't need that so much. You can
Speaker 6: you have all kinds of electronic means of trying to
Speaker 6: figure out what's on the other side of the hill.
Speaker 6: And and you can you can be the guy. You
Speaker 6: can be in a in the United States with your
Speaker 6: computer and analyzing, you know, bringing the information in, analyzing
Speaker 6: it and then sending it to a commander who's out
Speaker 6: there in the field. So yeah, it's it's a it's
Speaker 6: a changing world.
Speaker 3: Then they're probably less bodies like anything else in life, right,
Speaker 3: everyone who gets downsized, But we still have spies out there,
Speaker 3: and then the enemy still has spies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, I mean the.
Speaker 6: Mission from OSS to c IA of espionagees to is
Speaker 6: to recruit five, recruit and steal secrets. So I mean
Speaker 6: that's that starts in World War Two. You get you
Speaker 6: get There's a famous case that I described in my
Speaker 6: book of a guy in the German Foreign Office who
Speaker 6: brings briefcases full of documents, secret documents and delivers them
Speaker 6: to OS. Uh. Yes, absolutely, that's that's the name of
Speaker 6: the game.
Speaker 3: What makes a good spy? Where do you recruit from?
Speaker 3: You get these if you go on LinkedIn.
Speaker 6: What the CIA has officers, And that starts in World
Speaker 6: War two with OSS having officers. And those are the
Speaker 6: people who are are like your employees, and the employees
Speaker 6: go out and they want to recruit the foreign agents.
Speaker 6: There are various in World War Two. What you see
Speaker 6: primarily is agents who volunteer. They they they come up.
Speaker 6: You get somebody a German who's upset with Hitler and
Speaker 6: he goes to look for the Allied intelligence representative to say, hey,
Speaker 6: I am with you. I'm not you know, I'll do
Speaker 6: anything I can to defeat Hitler. And so then the
Speaker 6: the OSS guy takes the case and developed develops the
Speaker 6: case from there. So uh, it's hard to you know
Speaker 6: where do where do where does the AA officers come from? Uh?
Speaker 6: And it starts off it all starts on the East coast.
Speaker 6: And in World War Two, there's you know, it's like
Speaker 6: it's like, uh, actually on Wall Street. To a large extent,
Speaker 6: it's like somebody went through all the law offices and said, Okay,
Speaker 6: at war isn't Now You've got to go to Washington
Speaker 6: and work in intelligence. And then you see it start
Speaker 6: to broaden a little bit and they have the university types,
Speaker 6: a lot of ivy leaguers come to Washington. And then
Speaker 6: it gets a little broader and they say, well, you know,
Speaker 6: we need specialized knowledge of Germany or France or Italy
Speaker 6: or whatever. And then you see the agencies reaching out
Speaker 6: to people with those language skills or area knowledge skills. So,
Speaker 6: you know, it's hard, it's hard to I mean, you
Speaker 6: can you can talk, you can make generalizations about where
Speaker 6: the employees come from. It's harder to make generalizations about
Speaker 6: where the spies, the foreigners, the foreign spies come from
Speaker 6: because it's so it's so quirky. I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I get, it's almost almost almost by definition, it's it's
Speaker 6: like it's the outlier, right, the person who's not comfortable
Speaker 6: with what's going on, uh, for whatever reason. And the
Speaker 6: reason could be their love life, it could be, uh
Speaker 6: they're upset with a policy, and it could be they
Speaker 6: were passed over for promotion, you know. And like I said,
Speaker 6: those are the patterns that you're starting to develop in
Speaker 6: World War Two.
Speaker 3: Well, look at Lee Harvey Oswald, right, he trying to
Speaker 3: He became a Russian citizen and said, I've got all
Speaker 3: this information and basically like we already all know this stuff,
Speaker 3: and that's why I got it. There's part of the
Speaker 3: Kennedy conspiracy. And he went there and then became a
Speaker 3: double a agent or became a Soviet spy. And but
Speaker 3: they put him to work in a factory. Now, generally
Speaker 3: someone with that kind of information, they's gonna give them
Speaker 3: a better job.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go hard.
Speaker 6: Right, I don't have an inside information about Levy Harveyozzel,
Speaker 6: but certainly that is not the that's not the career
Speaker 6: pattern for a successful spy. And I think I think
Speaker 6: everybody we I mean, my guess is, you know, the
Speaker 6: careful bureaucrats in the Soviet Union are going like, no,
Speaker 6: I'm not sure this is the kind of guy we.
Speaker 5: Want to sign.
Speaker 2: He's not the kind of guy. He doesn't really have
Speaker 2: any secrets here.
Speaker 3: It's pretty common knowledge on really fascinating stuff though, especially now,
Speaker 3: and it's it's always relevant, but and it feels like
Speaker 3: it's more relevant today. Probably not. We've always need national security.
Speaker 3: The agency is a headline it you know, it varies.
Speaker 3: We haven't heard from them in quite some time.
Speaker 2: And then of course with this Operation Rescue and the pilot, uh,
Speaker 2: the CIA comes back into play in a big, big way.
Speaker 3: By the way, he is Nick Reynolds, he's director of
Speaker 3: the CIA Museum. Joining the show's an insight on that
Speaker 3: rescue mission, but more importantly perspective on the CIA. Thanks
Speaker 3: a yeah, and he's gone so probably got some spy
Speaker 3: stuff to do.
Speaker 2: How am I going to hold him up?
Speaker 5: Right? See?
Speaker 2: I that's a pretty cool mission though.
Speaker 3: The fact that they went and got this pilot and
Speaker 3: it was this whole distraction campaign the CIA orchestrated in
Speaker 3: order to make the Iranians think the pilot was somewhere
Speaker 3: where he was not so they can go in and
Speaker 3: make the rescue and drones are surrounding them. In that way,
Speaker 3: if they said, well wait a minute, I think we're
Speaker 3: getting tricked here or get we're snookered. We're gonna go
Speaker 3: find a way. I think we got this guy. The
Speaker 3: drones would have blown those forces all to hell, that
Speaker 3: we're going to go after him in that mountain crevice.
Speaker 3: So an amazing story. It's going to be in a
Speaker 3: better movie.
Speaker 2: I think. I think it's gonna be on Netflix this
Speaker 2: weekend if I'm not mistaken. Maybe a paramount plus.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure we'll get a news update in and
Speaker 3: when we return on The Scotsland Show and Julie Baki
Speaker 3: here our career shirt up and the President. Of course,
Speaker 3: you know the thing about President Trump is, I don't
Speaker 3: know if you know this about him, very very polarizing,
Speaker 3: very even what just happened with this two week seas fire,
Speaker 3: very polarizing.
Speaker 2: We live in interesting times, don't we.
Speaker 5: She has.
Speaker 3: It's something that he has done quietly that makes a
Speaker 3: lot of sense to me when it comes to the workforce.
Speaker 3: When it comes to the workplace, speaking of federal employees,
Speaker 3: we'll get into that next with Julie on the Job
Speaker 3: seven hundred WW Scott's Loan Show.
Speaker 7: Helping you navigate the rocky path The fulfilling employees.
Speaker 2: Here's our career, Julie Bouki.
Speaker 3: Sorry, here we go in this day, this Wednesday with
Speaker 3: the Julie bees and uh, of course I all the
Speaker 3: noise about the war and the attack and what's going
Speaker 3: on Iran and nuclear weapons and all of these things.
Speaker 3: Something lost here the because the business of DC continues,
Speaker 3: just by the fact Congress is on a bit of
Speaker 3: a recess right now.
Speaker 2: Is uh. Here's a I think a really really good
Speaker 2: thing the president did here, and that is getting rid
Speaker 2: of college degree requirements for a number of jobs in
Speaker 2: the federal government. I say, I'll allu you to that,
Speaker 2: Julie Balki, that's great news.
Speaker 8: It is great news.
Speaker 9: Yes, it's interesting, you know, as parents for the segment
Speaker 9: after what population or what percentage of the populi is
Speaker 9: population has a college degree, either bachelor's only or bachelor's
Speaker 9: pluff masters, And it's about thirty eight percent. And so
Speaker 9: when you say the cost of entry into any of
Speaker 9: these jobs we have available in the federal government is
Speaker 9: a college degree, you are immediately knocking out two thirds,
Speaker 9: almost two thirds of the population who.
Speaker 8: Can even get past that front door. And don't tell me.
Speaker 9: That every one of those jobs actually requires.
Speaker 8: The things you learn in college.
Speaker 10: And so we for years we've had this, We've.
Speaker 9: Painted this broad brush on all jobs in the federal
Speaker 9: government and companies. Some companies have done the same and said, yeah, don't.
Speaker 8: Even apply if you don't have a degree.
Speaker 9: And I love the fact that we're stepping back and saying, certainly,
Speaker 9: there are jobs in which you do need a degree.
Speaker 9: You're going to be an attorney for the federal government,
Speaker 9: be an accountant, yes, But how many of those that
Speaker 9: we've said need it really don't.
Speaker 8: And so that what they're doing is the.
Speaker 10: Office of Personnel Management.
Speaker 9: Is taking a look at six hundred job classifications to
Speaker 9: review and just go back and say, let's do a
Speaker 9: reset on this.
Speaker 8: What is truly required?
Speaker 9: What are the things that the skills, the abilities, the
Speaker 9: interest that you should have to get into an entry
Speaker 9: level job like a purchasing analyst, you know, or something
Speaker 9: that is entry level. Do you need a college degree
Speaker 9: for that or do you just need the ability to
Speaker 9: read an interpret contract tracts, to write a contract, to
Speaker 9: do the math or the accounting or the finance work
Speaker 9: around that to make sure that it's a good deal.
Speaker 9: And then what are the soft skills that are required
Speaker 9: or the non I would say, sort of like communication, influence,
Speaker 9: ability to get along. What do we really need for
Speaker 9: each of these jobs? And it's an onerous task because
Speaker 9: six hundred job classifications is a lot, but it's.
Speaker 8: Well worth the effort.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. That's a lot of jobs.
Speaker 3: But there's you know, well we just got rid of
Speaker 3: what some three hundred thousand federal workers could be another
Speaker 3: fifty thousand that go as well. So you know, six
Speaker 3: hundred plus job classifications. I'm not sure how many jobs
Speaker 3: that is in particular, but you also would have to
Speaker 3: look at and go, well, what about AI. AI is
Speaker 3: going to take a lot of jobs or at least
Speaker 3: change the nature of work there. I think that's an
Speaker 3: interesting factor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 9: And so when you look at who are those people
Speaker 9: when you're looking at so when you look at what
Speaker 9: are we going to require in each or some of
Speaker 9: these six hundred job classifications?
Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly some sort.
Speaker 9: Of facility or a billing ability of willingness to learn
Speaker 9: is huge because if you are the type of person
Speaker 9: who says, well, I've always done it this way and
Speaker 9: therefore it's good enough forever you that sort of approach
Speaker 9: to life or work is going to knock you out
Speaker 9: of contention, and it should because that's where every workplace
Speaker 9: is going. Is when you walk into nowtwork, things are changing.
Speaker 9: So back now then when you walk into a job,
Speaker 9: the job description or the basic responsibilities of the job
Speaker 9: might change in you know, twelve to eighteen months, right,
Speaker 9: And so that that ability to learn, that flexibility that yes,
Speaker 9: I'm going to dive in and figure this out.
Speaker 8: That's where we put that in what we call for.
Speaker 9: The soft skills category versus like the hard skills you know, accounting, finance, Excel, contracts,
Speaker 9: et cetera. Just going further with.
Speaker 10: My with my example that I used, and so it.
Speaker 9: Has to be sort of the well rounded here. If
Speaker 9: you are, we're going to and then we're going to
Speaker 9: find ways to ask you for to test whether you
Speaker 9: actually have those things and.
Speaker 8: So itse and then do you have a college degree? Okay,
Speaker 8: but if.
Speaker 9: You don't, we're not going to necessarily hold that against
Speaker 9: you because potential merit is really.
Speaker 8: What we're looking for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's people that are poking holes. Go all
Speaker 3: this is terrible because you know you I've heardge all
Speaker 3: these workers, and we're going to remove degree requirements. There's
Speaker 3: got to be a test, there's going to be a standard.
Speaker 3: There's They keep trying this example out about a doge
Speaker 3: hire who was nineteen years old, had minimal credentials and
Speaker 3: later accused of exposing social Security data. Like, because you're
Speaker 3: not well, I think the problem is maybe nineteen year
Speaker 3: old with minimal credentials. But the last time I checked,
Speaker 3: college people screw things up too, and they can also
Speaker 3: be criminals.
Speaker 2: If there was that, I'm.
Speaker 3: Dead there, not like, well you got a college agree,
Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, you're great, You're going to do a
Speaker 3: perfect job. You're not stupid. And also you're not going
Speaker 3: to rip us off. If that's dumb, it's so dumb.
Speaker 9: Yes, and we've all I mean, and that's because I've
Speaker 9: been in this world in hr andy for so long.
Speaker 9: I have seen fairly incredible capable people who didn't have
Speaker 9: the fund should have the opportunity whatever it was, to
Speaker 9: go to college who are amazing, not getting opportunities because
Speaker 9: of that, and then being passed or passed over for
Speaker 9: a promotion for somebody who's coming in from the outside,
Speaker 9: who is completely unknown person in terms of their capabilities,
Speaker 9: but they have a degree. So the fact that we
Speaker 9: have ascribed a certain level or a certain set of characteristics,
Speaker 9: capabilities and potential to just having a college degree is laughable.
Speaker 9: It's always been laughable, but now because there's so much
Speaker 9: changing in the world in every lever that that affects
Speaker 9: that it's finally starting to pop up.
Speaker 8: And this is to me, this is just this is
Speaker 8: all good.
Speaker 3: Is the testing part of this idea a problem? That
Speaker 3: You're going to have to build some skill based assessments
Speaker 3: and that's going to take some time and effort. It's
Speaker 3: going to cost some money as well. But should there
Speaker 3: be some sort of some sort of test depending on
Speaker 3: the job.
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Absolutely, And so this is weird. It gets a little
Speaker 9: bit hairy because skills based testing has been around in.
Speaker 8: Some form for decades.
Speaker 9: Yes, I mean, obviously, you know you're not going to
Speaker 9: be accepted into a trade school without doing some sort
Speaker 9: of do you have the aptitude to learn this? And
Speaker 9: I would know for sure because I know myself if
Speaker 9: I took an aptitude test for starting a trade school,
Speaker 9: I would fail it miserably.
Speaker 8: And so there has to be some.
Speaker 9: Sort of we all have different aptitudes and the things
Speaker 9: we can learn things are interested in, and so do
Speaker 9: you have the ability to learn this?
Speaker 8: How do we figure that out?
Speaker 9: And so it might be a series of hands on tests,
Speaker 9: it might be a quiz, it might be you know,
Speaker 9: job shadowing, and it might be on the job sort
Speaker 9: of stuff, or even just some there's so many skills
Speaker 9: based testing options out there. But what you have to
Speaker 9: be careful of when you do skills based testing, you
Speaker 9: have to really make sure that you're measuring the right things.
Speaker 9: And that's where testing has gotten in trouble all these years,
Speaker 9: because the testing doesn't measure what.
Speaker 8: It's purporting to measure, right.
Speaker 9: And you look at like the police Cincinnati Police Department,
Speaker 9: they certainly have have a some sort of skills or
Speaker 9: some sort of set of tests and a series that
Speaker 9: you have to go through. And so this is not new.
Speaker 9: But you have to be really careful because you have
Speaker 9: to be able to tie the results of those quizes
Speaker 9: and tests and everything you did with success and outcomes
Speaker 9: on that job. Otherwise the whole thing blows up.
Speaker 8: So, yes, it does. You have to This has to
Speaker 8: be done slowly and possibly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's normal and the government does
Speaker 3: the exact opposite of what we do in the private
Speaker 3: sector in the business world, because you know, companies like
Speaker 3: Google and IBM they dropped degree requirements a long time ago,
Speaker 3: not for all jobs, but for a number of jobs too,
Speaker 3: and the government finally is learning from them under Trump
Speaker 3: and maybe changing how we hire federally to which I
Speaker 3: don't think is a bad thing.
Speaker 9: No, it's not a bad thing at all. And we
Speaker 9: also know through though that are kind of chuckling when
Speaker 9: you said the corporations blah blah blah.
Speaker 10: They don't do it well either, honestly, And you know,
Speaker 10: I don't think there's.
Speaker 9: Anything glorious about the way corporations do things versus government,
Speaker 9: even though government gets such a wrap.
Speaker 8: But I think corporation screw this up equally.
Speaker 9: There is bias in hiring, period and there always will
Speaker 9: be anytime you have human beings involved in a process.
Speaker 9: There's there is there's bias that's just there. And so
Speaker 9: what as an organization can you do to make sure
Speaker 9: that you have you have closely tied the steps that
Speaker 9: you're requiring or the things you're requiring for a job
Speaker 9: to what does success look like? And sometimes it's a
Speaker 9: matter of taking your most successful people in a particular
Speaker 9: role and going and looking at them and say what
Speaker 9: made them successful and backing into it. And I am
Speaker 9: obviously a huge fan of this because I think anytime
Speaker 9: you have an arbitrary anytime you have what is really
Speaker 9: in sauna these jobs that has amounted to an arbitrary requirement,
Speaker 9: you really are missing some really great talent.
Speaker 3: I think that's very very much true that you tend
Speaker 3: to look up because you don't have that degree. And
Speaker 3: I think it's refreshing that this administration anyway, and certainly
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things we can criticize and gather
Speaker 3: as we will, this one kind of doesn't get the
Speaker 3: play it should it going in, Hey, you know, we
Speaker 3: do this private sector for a while, and you said
Speaker 3: mentioned that perfectly for sure. But the idea is that
Speaker 3: you know, it is a college degree indicator of how
Speaker 3: well you're going to perform for some of these jobs
Speaker 3: where you're a federal worker. And the answer, of course
Speaker 3: is no, it's not. I mean, Julie today in we're
Speaker 3: kind of old school here, I get it work ethic
Speaker 3: to me, it's the greatest indicator of future performance of
Speaker 3: how you're going to do if you want to show
Speaker 3: up and do the job beyond time, do all things
Speaker 3: you're supposed to do. You can learn, provided you know
Speaker 3: you're intelligent enough to handle the chore. But the fact
Speaker 3: of the matter is showing up as most of the job.
Speaker 3: And I don't care how many degrees or degrees you
Speaker 3: don't have. It doesn't matter at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: I think that is still as much as we don't
Speaker 3: talk about it, the biggest thing is are you going
Speaker 3: to show up and do the job?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's that's something that you can interview for
Speaker 9: those kinds of things. It's it's hard to interview for
Speaker 9: all you're going to show up and do the job,
Speaker 9: but you can. There are some ways to look at
Speaker 9: people's past to ask them questions about I love the
Speaker 9: phrase past behavior is the best indicator of future behavior.
Speaker 8: I absolutely believe that.
Speaker 9: And we build track records, we build reputations, we build buzz.
Speaker 8: Around who we are.
Speaker 9: And if you're if you have always had a hard.
Speaker 8: Time showing up on time or doing a.
Speaker 9: Full week work, there's really not an employer who's looking
Speaker 9: at you has no reason to believe that you're going
Speaker 9: to change your strife and so there's there's there's an
Speaker 9: entire process that goes beyond skills. But it's it's really
Speaker 9: and I really hate the word attitude because it's not
Speaker 9: a behavior.
Speaker 8: You have to break that down.
Speaker 9: What behaviors make up a good attitude? And yeah, you
Speaker 9: have to be And I also love the phrase higher
Speaker 9: slow and fire fast because if you really are deliberate, yeah,
Speaker 9: I mean, if you're really deliberate and thoughtful about how
Speaker 9: you hire, you will have to fire less people. But
Speaker 9: when you do realize you've made a mistake, you need
Speaker 9: to cut those losses as soon as possible and move
Speaker 9: on so everybody can move on.
Speaker 8: But you have to have confidence in your process. And
Speaker 8: that's that's the thing. It's it's missing everywhere.
Speaker 9: It's too many hands on the weapon, too many you know,
Speaker 9: you have to have ten interviews or because people are
Speaker 9: afraid to make a decision, and so there's just a
Speaker 9: lot of stuff that goes into this.
Speaker 8: But this is a good.
Speaker 3: Start, yeah, Julie Balki, is there a riskless winds up
Speaker 3: being a I don't know, kind of a back door
Speaker 3: to get politically loyal workers in there, and you know,
Speaker 3: weed everyone else outing and there's the accusation doss part
Speaker 3: of that never came to fruition obviously too, but the
Speaker 3: scope of it. But but you know, I hear that
Speaker 3: complaint that, well, now you're just gonna so you're going
Speaker 3: to create these jobs with no degree and now you
Speaker 3: just hire people who think like you and cronies. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: welcome to politics. That's what happens with every appointee, whether
Speaker 3: you're a Republican or a Democrat. The people who get
Speaker 3: the jobs you appointed jobs are people they owe favors
Speaker 3: to help them get elected.
Speaker 2: What the hell els is now? Why is this any different?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And that's that's you know, that's actually true.
Speaker 9: When I was back in my HR days.
Speaker 1: So many times I was hiring, you.
Speaker 9: Know, I was interviewing the so and so's former babysitter,
Speaker 9: the daughter or son of someone who was a good
Speaker 9: buddy of mine, And so that will always happen, and.
Speaker 8: I wish it didn't, but it will.
Speaker 9: It's again, it's those humans in the process. But you
Speaker 9: still need to you still need to keep They still
Speaker 9: need to or should be jumping through those same hoops
Speaker 9: as anybody else.
Speaker 8: Who comes in.
Speaker 9: Because once you start hiring that way once or twice.
Speaker 9: You do it once or twice, all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: your credibility as a leader and as a person who
Speaker 9: wants what sets for the organization goes down the tubes
Speaker 9: and you start to lose engagement by the people that
Speaker 9: you really that you really want to keep.
Speaker 3: The target of this obviously younger workers. Why has the
Speaker 3: federal government struggled to attract that kind of work or
Speaker 3: young people?
Speaker 2: What do they need to fix that?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's it's sayings like good enough for government work.
Speaker 10: It's good enough, you know with right.
Speaker 9: I mean, when when all this doge that started cutting out,
Speaker 9: people are like, oh my god, there's so much waste.
Speaker 9: Well they didn't find they've found hardly any and there's
Speaker 9: always waste, but there's always been an impression that that
Speaker 9: you go get a job. And this is and this
Speaker 9: is also supported by the fact that anytime you have
Speaker 9: to deal with a government agency, sometimes it is it
Speaker 9: is laborious, it is long, it is weighed down by
Speaker 9: policy and process and practice that don't seem to make sense.
Speaker 8: And so if you've.
Speaker 9: Experienced it on the consumer side of the desk, then yes,
Speaker 9: you probably are going to feel that way and broad
Speaker 9: brush all government workers.
Speaker 8: And so I think.
Speaker 9: That the ability to be agile and quick and bring
Speaker 9: in younger people who do have and this gen alsha,
Speaker 9: that's after gen Z. They are they are the most
Speaker 9: digital natives that have ever been coming into the workforce
Speaker 9: and owes to them right now or.
Speaker 8: Sixteen and so they are going to start showing up
Speaker 8: in workplaces.
Speaker 9: And so that ability to change quickly, to move fast,
Speaker 9: to question things that are wrong, to bring in new
Speaker 9: systems is why they're saying. I mean people are are
Speaker 9: and will retire. We need to make sure that we
Speaker 9: are knocking down the barriers that bring to bring younger
Speaker 9: people into what can be really nice jobs.
Speaker 2: She is Julie Buki, our sirpa.
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Speaker 3: We've got a news update happened in about five minutes
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Speaker 2: But the reality, though, is the gas prices.
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Speaker 3: and how high is too high? J Young is next
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Speaker 2: Jay?
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 2: How's everything in the great State of Texas this morning?
Speaker 5: They we're doing great. All we're doing is trying to
Speaker 5: look at twenty dollars less of barrel though. We we'll
Speaker 5: got through yesterday. But other than that and everything's pretty
Speaker 5: good here.
Speaker 3: How's your neck doing from all this whiplash?
Speaker 5: That's exactly right. But hey, if you're in the old business,
Speaker 5: you'll you'll go with the flow. They're stiled, keep your
Speaker 5: head down, do what you can for your partners, and
Speaker 5: just keep keep drilling. Grind it a good, good prospect.
Speaker 2: Keep grinding. Put this in perspective.
Speaker 3: So fifteen percent, you go at fifteen percent, So that's
Speaker 3: a massive single session swing. But can you put that
Speaker 3: in some sort of a historical context, and is the
Speaker 3: market pricing in peace or are they pricing in hope.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think it's I think it's a lot
Speaker 5: of hope in my opinion. And you look at that,
Speaker 5: you look at the futures contracts for the next several months,
Speaker 5: and you're seeing prices that are that are not as
Speaker 5: high as as they are right now, which means that
Speaker 5: they're just this backward nation, if you will, of prices,
Speaker 5: meaning that there's just so much uncertainty that that's going
Speaker 5: into the markets right now. And you know, so I
Speaker 5: asked to the day. They said, well, how's this affecting
Speaker 5: your business? You know, when rolls at one hundred dollars
Speaker 5: a barrel, and I said, well, we produce it brings
Speaker 5: about two million barrels a year, and you know, two
Speaker 5: million dollars at twenty dollars. Two million barrels, I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: two million barrels at twenty bucks. That's forty million dollars
Speaker 5: a year more for our partners. That's a lot. That's
Speaker 5: a lot of money, you know, And it does it
Speaker 5: really affects job job growth here, It affects you know,
Speaker 5: non job growth, you know, layoffs and and things that nature.
Speaker 5: So it's it's the uncertainty is not good. But right
Speaker 5: now I think we're seeing the prices. Prices are going
Speaker 5: to them down, you know, as they have and but
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to go down a lot
Speaker 5: further and stay there for a long period of time.
Speaker 5: We've had a lot of disruption, yeah, and they all
Speaker 5: supply around the world.
Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be a along with short two weeks,
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. The ceasefire, of course, is conditional.
Speaker 3: Ran still has to physically open the straight of four
Speaker 3: moves if they stall, if they drag their feet, if
Speaker 3: it's a partial opening.
Speaker 2: What is happening to new to prices?
Speaker 3: Are we just going to see this whips of effect
Speaker 3: for the next two weeks?
Speaker 5: We will, Well, we'll just see. You know, everybody's probably
Speaker 5: got cameras. I heard this morning that they say, well
Speaker 5: there's no big takers in the straight or removes right now,
Speaker 5: you know, there's there's you know, so they are they're
Speaker 5: going to look at it and they're going to find
Speaker 5: out what's what's going on with the markets, and they're
Speaker 5: going to see what's going on with with you know,
Speaker 5: opinions and what's going to happen. And you know, I
Speaker 5: don't I don't know if we'll if we'll ever know
Speaker 5: until it's already been done, you know, quite frankly. But
Speaker 5: I do know some facts, and I think you called
Speaker 5: me about some facts. You will some facts, And I
Speaker 5: do know that there is a lot of oil that's
Speaker 5: been disrupted with the strait of removes over the last
Speaker 5: you know, months, months and a half. And what I
Speaker 5: mean by that is, you know, all the Persian golf
Speaker 5: countries have shut their wells in pretty much. They you
Speaker 5: can't produce, you know, millions and millions of barrels a
Speaker 5: day and expect, you know, to hold it. And so
Speaker 5: it's they've been shutting these wells in for a long
Speaker 5: period of time, and about about twelve to fifteen million
Speaker 5: barrels a day they've had, you know, shut down right
Speaker 5: now because they don't have the storage capacity. So hundreds
Speaker 5: of millions of barrels have not been produced, which means
Speaker 5: it does not go into the oil supply. And when
Speaker 5: it doesn't go into the oil supply and it's disrupted,
Speaker 5: we're going to see problem for I mean, I was
Speaker 5: listening to the Bank of American President last night. He
Speaker 5: was saying that this could be you know, throughout the
Speaker 5: whole year that we the eighty dollars ninety dollars oil.
Speaker 5: So not just for right now, but also this is
Speaker 5: a factor for you know, a long, longer period of time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jay Young knowes wealth don't just restart on command.
Speaker 3: What's the realistic production ramp up timeline you're talking about
Speaker 3: here to get everything back.
Speaker 5: On the line. Oh, it takes weeks months. As a
Speaker 5: matter of fact, a lot of the oils may not
Speaker 5: even come back on. I mean, we've had whales before
Speaker 5: that we've had to shut in for unfortunate exist reasons
Speaker 5: and they just don't come back on. And if they
Speaker 5: do come back on, they may come in at sixty percent,
Speaker 5: sixty seventy percent of what they were before. So it
Speaker 5: does take It does take time. It's unfortunate that you
Speaker 5: have to shut down, especially oil wells, oil wels that
Speaker 5: are high pressure oil wells because of the liquids and
Speaker 5: because of the pressures down haul. It does take a lot.
Speaker 5: And you know, the unfortunate thing is it may not
Speaker 5: come back around, which means we're going to see a
Speaker 5: shortage in oil for a long period of time.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 5: And if we see that, we're going to see higher prices.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jay Young is a is a gas, gas and
Speaker 3: oil man out of Texas at King Operating, and our
Speaker 3: own government says Middle East to all production. Uh, because
Speaker 3: of what we're talking about, we're not going to see
Speaker 3: pre conflict levels return until late this year. So best
Speaker 3: case scenario deal don straight or goes open great or
Speaker 3: moving the containers through and ships through. But here in
Speaker 3: the Tri State families are still going to pay elevated
Speaker 3: prices for what the foreseeable future, at least to the
Speaker 3: rest of this year, right I.
Speaker 5: Think so, I mean, I I've been talking about higher
Speaker 5: prices going into the summertime when a lot of demand,
Speaker 5: you know, peace because of you know, people to go
Speaker 5: on vacations, and we shut rigged down. We shut rigging
Speaker 5: down for the last two three four years. I mean
Speaker 5: there's some there's some places that we've had forty rig declines,
Speaker 5: which means rigs are running, rigs aren't drilling for rolling
Speaker 5: gas number one. But number two is you know, the
Speaker 5: the wells that are online declined rapidly in the first
Speaker 5: year two years, so we're going to see an effect
Speaker 5: of that as well. So we're going to have a
Speaker 5: lot less supply on the market, and our demand continues
Speaker 5: to rise. So we're going to see higher prices anyway.
Speaker 5: And I wasn't even including the war in this, but
Speaker 5: you put this into effect with a lot of disruptions globally,
Speaker 5: I think we're going to see prices higher for a
Speaker 5: long period of time.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we tapped into the spr the Strategic
Speaker 3: Patrolingu Reserve, we have Russian oil exemptions, We've got these
Speaker 3: backstops that were kind of helping us out through this crunch.
Speaker 3: But somebody think this came just in time, But it
Speaker 3: sounds like we're still going to feel this because all
Speaker 3: of those things and more that I can't even fathom
Speaker 3: at this point, are coming to gather confluence to put
Speaker 3: a further crunch on oil production.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. And Trump is doing anything and everything he can.
Speaker 5: He's got midterm elections coming up. Yeah, he does not
Speaker 5: want a lot more Democrats in the office because they'll
Speaker 5: try to impeach him and we'll hear about that for
Speaker 5: the next two years. So he wants oil prices lower.
Speaker 5: And I felt like that that all prizes at one hundred,
Speaker 5: one hundred and twelve thirteen are low compared to what
Speaker 5: they should be during the war. Like this so he's
Speaker 5: done a great job keeping it down, you know, and
Speaker 5: now he's done a great job with with you know,
Speaker 5: his negotiations so far. Look going to happen this afronoon
Speaker 5: or in the next couple of weeks like you did.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, hope we get something out of it, like
Speaker 3: you know, nuclear disarmament, there's got a piece. We got
Speaker 3: to get something out of this or otherwise, well okay,
Speaker 3: well why did why did we go through this exercise
Speaker 3: and put the world on the break for a few
Speaker 3: days if you can call it that? And the threats
Speaker 3: of course that were made or one thing, but action
Speaker 3: is entirely different. I get that. I just you know,
Speaker 3: you hope that you hope that there's an endgame here
Speaker 3: for us here in the United States. You know, I
Speaker 3: look at Saudi Arabia, They've actually benefited from their pipeline
Speaker 3: infrastructure during this crisis. Crude experts to Europe hit a
Speaker 3: two year high. Of course, you know, it feels like
Speaker 3: we're losing here. But who are the other winners of this?
Speaker 3: What roughly six weeks of chaos in the straight of
Speaker 3: our moves, And is the American oil industry one of them?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah, When you see higher prices like this,
Speaker 5: revenues do go up and is good. And there's a
Speaker 5: lot more drilling prospects. I mean, there's some prospects that
Speaker 5: look good at you know, twenty thirty where we drill,
Speaker 5: we drill for twenty thirty dollars a barrow. But a
Speaker 5: lot of the shell prospects that they have, you know,
Speaker 5: they look they look really good at seventy or eighty
Speaker 5: dollars a barrow. They break evens, maybe fifty sixty dollars.
Speaker 5: But but you know, the higher the price, the higher
Speaker 5: the revenues, that it's not as important and it's not
Speaker 5: as important to drill well that you are thirty forty
Speaker 5: dollars a barrel for their brake. Even so it puts
Speaker 5: a lot more rigs on the on the market when
Speaker 5: you have higher prices and that and that's good for
Speaker 5: It's good for Texas, I know that because we do
Speaker 5: a lot more drilling and we have a lot of
Speaker 5: old production here in Texas, and it does you know,
Speaker 5: it's great for jobs, great for our taxes here in
Speaker 5: the in the in the state of Texas, and we
Speaker 5: don't income tax because of that. But it's it's really
Speaker 5: good for us here, and it's just good for for anybody.
Speaker 5: But you're gonna see a lot of a lot of
Speaker 5: of them right now. I'm afraid with a lot of
Speaker 5: the oil that that's that's been conflicted, East coast, west
Speaker 5: coast is going to see higher prices. And let's see
Speaker 5: how fast these these prices do come down. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it gonna take. You're gonna take a few days
Speaker 5: or a week or what to bring these prices back
Speaker 5: down at the pump. Yeah, you know, Americans are paying
Speaker 5: eight hundred and thirty million more dollars a day right
Speaker 5: now with with with gasoline prices being up, they're paying
Speaker 5: eight hundred and thirty million more dollars a day. Let's
Speaker 5: see how long it takes these prices to go down
Speaker 5: with the pump. I just drove by a gas station.
Speaker 5: I didn't see I didn't see two dollars or three
Speaker 5: dollars on that on that side. So it may take
Speaker 5: a little a little bit because I have bought all
Speaker 5: that higher prices. But hopefully it'll come down soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hovering just I think below four here in
Speaker 3: the Tri State in Cincinnati, Jay, and and you're in Texas,
Speaker 3: you know, The one thing we didn't mention ads the
Speaker 3: cost here is the shipping insurance premiums. Those have gone
Speaker 3: through the root for you guys and analysts expect a
Speaker 3: I think they call it a security search charge, which,
Speaker 3: of course you know anytime you get a search charge,
Speaker 3: they put it in and never.
Speaker 2: Goes away, never goes away.
Speaker 3: So that also helps keep prices artificial elevated even after
Speaker 3: the straight opens right exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you're seeing a lot of the Saudi Arabia
Speaker 5: is charging nineteen fifty. It just reminded me that Saudi
Speaker 5: Arabia was charged in nineteen fifty because they can't getting
Speaker 5: all out of that version golf for the trader remove.
Speaker 5: So you're seeing a lot of taxes, but you're seeing
Speaker 5: a lot of taxes everywhere. California has a lot of taxes.
Speaker 5: That's why they're they're paying six seven dollars a gallon
Speaker 5: over there. You're seeing a lot of other states that
Speaker 5: are having to pay taxes right now, and you know, hopefully,
Speaker 5: hopefully we can keep these prices down and get back
Speaker 5: to normal. Whatever normal looks like. I think it looks like,
Speaker 5: you know, seventy eighty dollars a barrel is great for
Speaker 5: us as a producer. Yep, we don't. We don't need
Speaker 5: we don't need a hundred we don't need that's if
Speaker 5: you watch Lambman. You know Billy boll Parton says we
Speaker 5: need about seventy five dollars a barrel. So I would definitely,
Speaker 5: you know, right after you, right after you watch Lambman,
Speaker 5: just go get my book The Upside of Only Gas Investing,
Speaker 5: and you can learn how to how to make money
Speaker 5: out of all the things that Billy Bob talks about.
Speaker 5: Because it's a it's a great show, and it does
Speaker 5: that's how I grew up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, can you watch it? Is it? Is it
Speaker 2: fairly accurate?
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you know what happens in one day,
Speaker 3: it's that's not reality. There's probably, like anything, a lot
Speaker 3: of sitting around and then you have a crisis of
Speaker 3: what You can't have that much drama in one day.
Speaker 3: Go out on your life, otherwise you die from sheer stress.
Speaker 3: I get that, But how accurate overall is it?
Speaker 5: It is accurate, but it's for Hollywood. It reminds me
Speaker 5: when Cooper goes out and he drills like five old
Speaker 5: Wells in an afternoon. I mean, he's like two hours late.
Speaker 5: He's like two hours late from getting back to his
Speaker 5: i think his girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 5: Said, yeah, he said, you know what, we hit every
Speaker 5: well we drill, we hit like five wells. And I'm like,
Speaker 5: it takes you five months to drill five wells. You're
Speaker 5: not You're not going to just go around and drill
Speaker 5: five wells in the afternoon or something. But it was
Speaker 5: made for all he was here. It's a great show,
Speaker 5: all the show.
Speaker 3: It's one of the best shows on streaming, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Jay Young, So the too long, didn't read version of
Speaker 3: this thing. If you're just joined the Scotsland Shore Show
Speaker 3: here with a Jay Young who's an oil and gas
Speaker 3: man and his book is Upside of Oil and Gas Investing.
Speaker 3: He's a operator in Texas. Is that gas price is
Speaker 3: higher gas versus lose. Inflated gas prices are here for
Speaker 3: the foreseeable future, at least through quarter four of this
Speaker 3: year because of all the uncertainty that's going on, the
Speaker 3: fact that these strategic patroleum reserve needs to be rebuilt.
Speaker 3: We've got rushes issues in there as well with their needs.
Speaker 3: We have the insurance cost of shipping and the uncertainty
Speaker 3: of when Iran says enough enough and they close the
Speaker 3: straight again, if indeed that happens, And it seems like
Speaker 3: that's the big this issue is how can Iran control
Speaker 3: something that they really have no oversight on that would
Speaker 3: be the straight of our moves. That's the troubling part
Speaker 3: of this that there's no work around for.
Speaker 5: Exactly. And there's gonna be a lot more pipelines there.
Speaker 5: They're gonna be you know, built really soon because uh,
Speaker 5: you know, I think that twenty percent of all oil
Speaker 5: in the world goes through the strait of our movement
Speaker 5: to thirty three thirty three miles wide is just absolutely
Speaker 5: crazy in regards to you know, and relying on that,
Speaker 5: and I ran trying to get as much you know,
Speaker 5: control as they can and and hopefully this this thing's
Speaker 5: gonna it's go to play out where we can all
Speaker 5: play nice and we can do what we when we
Speaker 5: grew up, all of us grew up you know, on
Speaker 5: our knees rub side the bed saying you know, all
Speaker 5: we want, you know, got his world peace, and that's
Speaker 5: what we're trying to do right now as well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, from an engineering standpoint, we would kick
Speaker 3: this r us. But if you could do something about
Speaker 3: the straight of our moves to take that, you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's obviously what you're talking about. There's moving mountains literally,
Speaker 3: I mean that in order to do like a canal.
Speaker 3: But you know, you think about here in the States,
Speaker 3: back to where I grew up in the Great Lakes.
Speaker 3: You know, it was the Erie Canal was a huge thing, right,
Speaker 3: the eery canotic. And then they said, well, we're gonna
Speaker 3: make a seaway now, and then that of course killed
Speaker 3: the towns. Well help kill the towns around the Great
Speaker 3: Lakes because engineering came along and literally could move mountains.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's in the foreseeable future, but
Speaker 3: at some point maybe there's a way to do that
Speaker 3: where you can bypass the straight offod moves and take
Speaker 3: a rand completely other picture. Of course, that means that
Speaker 3: the nation or nations that you do something like that
Speaker 3: around are gonna wind them go. Hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: now we hauld all the cards and Iran does it anymore,
Speaker 3: and we have a new form of totalitarianism. And it's
Speaker 3: all driven by money and oil, which we need to
Speaker 3: live our modern lives. For sure, he is Jay Young,
Speaker 3: CEO of King Operating. It's oil and gas. He's a
Speaker 3: real landman here. It's not Billy Bob Thornton.
Speaker 2: It's Jay Young.
Speaker 3: The upside of oil and gas investing is the book.
Speaker 3: And thanks your time, sir. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Thanks a lot. You guys. Have a great day and
Speaker 5: check back with me. Maybe you never know what happen. Right.
Speaker 7: We could do it daily update and it changed minute
Speaker 7: to minute. Take care, Jay, thanks absolutely, thank you, sir.
Speaker 3: We got to get news update in very late so
Speaker 3: uh travesty averted here.
Speaker 2: So the world did not end last night.
Speaker 3: In case you, just in case you were like me,
Speaker 3: you're watching Reds baseball going, hey, yeah, weren't we supposed
Speaker 3: to blow up her? Perhaps to end of the Reds game.
Speaker 3: Let's make the care. It's a good problem to have.
Speaker 3: Sarah Lisa snort report. She is going to celebrate the
Speaker 3: big dub last night, a milestone win very early in
Speaker 3: the season for the Reds, a milestone win. We'll get
Speaker 3: into that next on seven hundred w alw.
Speaker 2: There's lots to snort about today. Did you watch it?
Speaker 1: Reds fans rejewyers, I am so mad I fell asleep
Speaker 1: in the bottom of the nine either that's me and
Speaker 1: I was this close, this close to nothing, like, let's
Speaker 1: if something else is on, getting kind of get like,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's just something to.
Speaker 2: Hang around with.
Speaker 1: Even the come from behind it was incredible. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: those are the kind of games that you need to
Speaker 1: win to get ahead.
Speaker 3: It feels like I mentioned this in the teas, this
Speaker 3: was a milestone win last night.
Speaker 2: Absolutely the season.
Speaker 3: Granted, you know a handful of games, but still the
Speaker 3: fact that it was too nothing lead into the top
Speaker 3: of the ninth and the Reds come back and put
Speaker 3: six up. Like I'm watching this going, man, they can't
Speaker 3: score any runs. This is the problem with this team.
Speaker 3: Close games and all of a sudden six runs are
Speaker 3: on the board, so.
Speaker 1: We know that they can score. It is very possible,
Speaker 1: and of course it really does matter in those certain situations,
Speaker 1: and these are the kind of games that they weren't
Speaker 1: winning last year. Now, granted we're only eleven games and
Speaker 1: we've got one hundred and forty to go, but I
Speaker 1: still think this is a great sign of something to
Speaker 1: be really excited about with this team. And who knows
Speaker 1: what else I could get into this through a jet.
Speaker 3: I mean that was a cy Young level performance. I'll
Speaker 3: contra through last night. So I felt like, wow, it
Speaker 3: was a little nervous. The thing was obviously extremely happy
Speaker 3: the Reds won and continue the streak. But boy, talk
Speaker 3: about a guy who should be pissed this morning. I mean,
Speaker 3: he threw a great game, hands it off to the bullpen,
Speaker 3: and let me just say.
Speaker 1: And we know what that's like.
Speaker 3: We know what that's like. You give it to the
Speaker 3: bullpen and who came in to lose the game for him?
Speaker 3: We can empathize with the Miami Rolins because we also
Speaker 3: have a Tony Bender that does stuff like this.
Speaker 1: Ah, do you got to bring Tony in?
Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 3: Comes early picture Tony Bender, like, oh I think the
Speaker 3: Reds got a chance?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was excited when I woke up.
Speaker 2: Tony Bender does the same thing here.
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about Tony for.
Speaker 2: That, but give to get to run lead and he
Speaker 2: screws it up.
Speaker 8: Everything.
Speaker 1: Not Tony Bender. He's like the nicest guy that works here.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of dudes that work here, and I
Speaker 1: would say that Tony. I would say Tony and Chuck
Speaker 1: Chuck with traffic, those are the two nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony could be a jerk.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're at the you're at the very bottom.
Speaker 2: I would not be here if it wasn't for Tony's
Speaker 2: a guy who got me here.
Speaker 1: Really, the guy that got me here no longer works here.
Speaker 3: Well, Tony's gonna work here. And then he came back
Speaker 3: like everyone, we're all dumb around here, and you trying
Speaker 3: to get away from you. But if you see Tony
Speaker 3: Bender around today, say good job getting to Redgs to win.
Speaker 2: Thanks Tony Bender.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you listen to that presser with Tito yesterday,
Speaker 1: he said, everybody contributed to this win, and that's what
Speaker 1: it's all about, everybody coming together, getting the offense rolling
Speaker 1: and the pitch. And I feel like they're operating here
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. But yeah, I was glad to see
Speaker 1: that they finally scored some runs, because, as you know,
Speaker 1: they can't just get through the entire season with great pitching. However,
Speaker 1: I am a fan of this pitching right now. I
Speaker 1: know we were a little concerned with Hunter Green going
Speaker 1: down and Lodolo with his blister, but they're getting it
Speaker 1: done with guys like Rhet Louder and Chase Burns and
Speaker 1: Brandon Williamson is finding his way after going an entire
Speaker 1: year without pitching, so it's this is a fun group
Speaker 1: to watch and I'm having fun on this road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty fun to watch and McClean
Speaker 3: hitting that double first extra on the season for extra,
Speaker 3: and then exactly then you know, Ellie's on base and
Speaker 3: he winds up unbroken bend or screwed that up too,
Speaker 3: because for the wild.
Speaker 2: Pitch, he couldn't bend down.
Speaker 1: And he just showed. It just goes to show you
Speaker 1: just how fast Ellie is. And of course the Ruds
Speaker 1: are tweeting all about his speed, and they've got all
Speaker 1: the videos up on their social I've rey tweeted some
Speaker 1: of mine, but it is it's just like an exciting
Speaker 1: time right now. They swept over the weekend. Can they
Speaker 1: sweep the Marlins again.
Speaker 2: Well, they've at least split the series at this point.
Speaker 3: We'll find out later tonight, and they get anomort early
Speaker 3: game tomorrow, by the way, on Thursday down in Miami getaway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, six tonight, and then you got a noon something tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Love so inside Pitch tomorrowt eleven eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1: I love an early game love an early game, and
Speaker 1: then they're back for a six forty five on Friday night,
Speaker 1: and that is also the first fireworks night of the season,
Speaker 1: and also happening tomorrow, they're gonna be debuting the City
Speaker 1: Connect two point zero uniforms.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: You've seen the leak, You've not seen the actual uniform.
Speaker 1: You've saw a leak from some hangar. I see, what
Speaker 1: do you think of it so far?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 1: The red with the white sea, I hate it? You
Speaker 1: hate it? Why what's the hate about it?
Speaker 2: I don't like the sea.
Speaker 1: You don't like the pinstripes. It's the sea, okay?
Speaker 2: See I don't like this see logo.
Speaker 3: I love wearing this since I love the black jersey
Speaker 3: with says Sancy on it, I think that is incredible.
Speaker 1: And they're still going to wear those for Friday night
Speaker 1: home games. Those are not going anywhere. The new uniforms
Speaker 1: are gonna be worn for all Saturday home games.
Speaker 2: What makes it Cincinnati? Besides the sea that it's it's
Speaker 2: just Connect.
Speaker 1: You like the dollars?
Speaker 2: The Brewers have sausages all over. How come there's that
Speaker 2: chili all over this thing or something?
Speaker 1: You want chili all over that then I do you
Speaker 1: see enough of that at the ballpark.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying what makes it specifically homage to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: The sea is on it. We have a scene, all right,
Speaker 1: Well that's what makes it Cincinnati, the wishbone. We are
Speaker 1: putting the sea in Cincinnati. What else do we want?
Speaker 1: Like a mustache on there?
Speaker 2: I want something the skyline, yana, something, give me, give
Speaker 2: me something Cincinnati, now grinned.
Speaker 1: You've only seen a leak. There could be other things
Speaker 1: on them. You don't know about it.
Speaker 2: You're the one who described the leak when it leaked out, Like, Yo,
Speaker 2: this is the jersey and.
Speaker 1: What's trending red? It is red with a white.
Speaker 6: Sea on it.
Speaker 1: That's all we've seen.
Speaker 5: Not like this.
Speaker 2: I want to see something on the best, something cool.
Speaker 2: Give me something cool? Since he was cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know. They're not making this for you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you're disappointed.
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed if that's a jersey, I don leg it.
Speaker 1: Someone not disappointed after that game last night, trending this morning,
Speaker 1: Matt McLean on his whole uh you know, getting that
Speaker 1: hit last night, and he goes, yeah, we're just going
Speaker 1: to keep grinding We're going to keep playing this game hard,
Speaker 1: playing the right way. He's like, that's exactly what we
Speaker 1: did that night. And this is Red's baseball. So there
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, I'm happy to see Matt McLean heading
Speaker 1: because he had such a great spring.
Speaker 2: So what about Lathaniel Low So you brought him in here?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: About that guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like that guy? Right, And this is my take.
Speaker 1: I know it's only you know, you've got one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty games to go, but it's like, these are
Speaker 1: the games that you gotta win. You gotta win early
Speaker 1: on that way, when September does roll around and you're
Speaker 1: playing the Dodgers for seven games and the Brewers for
Speaker 1: six plus the Padres and Braves, it's not like a
Speaker 1: do or die situation. Yea, you can kind of ease
Speaker 1: into September a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Right, it's only April slow down.
Speaker 1: This is how we roll around here. We start to
Speaker 1: think about September, like, oh, what does that schedule look like?
Speaker 1: It's a little crazy.
Speaker 3: Fourteen hours ago the world was going to end. So
Speaker 3: right now it's like we're just playing that. We're playing
Speaker 3: a bar times.
Speaker 2: Well, that's you know, got Cincinnati about September in August.
Speaker 1: Yeah, also last night, turning on social, Elie de la
Speaker 1: Cruz invited some Reds fans onto the field with them
Speaker 1: some little kids in the stands.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They had come in from Cincinnati, I guess, and they
Speaker 1: watched them take BP. So I thought that was cool, fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to take care of the kids.
Speaker 1: You got to take care of the kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought there was a missed opportune to take
Speaker 3: care of the kids. I don't know if he saw
Speaker 3: caught this in the first game this series. Sal's over
Speaker 3: catching a foul ball. He's in foul territories, look like
Speaker 3: he's got to hit the net, but he picked it
Speaker 3: off the net. Yeah, and there's this little chubby Reds
Speaker 3: kid standing there and he's got his glove up like
Speaker 3: he's pointing at the ball.
Speaker 2: He's like, it's Sarah there.
Speaker 3: Neally makes a catch and they totally ignore the kid, like,
Speaker 3: I know there's a net there, but he could have
Speaker 3: like slid the ball under the caid glove on.
Speaker 2: He was just it was what a missed opportunity.
Speaker 1: They're like, ooh, he get caught up in the moment, kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was focused on catching.
Speaker 1: The ball and then I do love Sal Stewart, you know,
Speaker 1: being from Miami. He's got like two hundred people in
Speaker 1: the stands and it looks like there are only two
Speaker 1: hundred people total at these Marlins games. I guess they
Speaker 1: don't get a big crowd for them.
Speaker 2: I saw his Jim Day was out there, was talking
Speaker 2: to his.
Speaker 1: Dad, to his dad, and his dad is so cool.
Speaker 1: And they've got like fath heads of Sal Stewart there
Speaker 1: and they've invited like his high school coaches and teachers, friends, family,
Speaker 1: Sal's girlfriend is there, and I mean, he's got quite
Speaker 1: the crowd cheering him on. And he put on a
Speaker 1: hell of a performance last night. So that's exactly what
Speaker 1: you want when you invite two hundred.
Speaker 2: People out, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And I don't know how you were able to find
Speaker 3: two hundred tickets to that stadium, because that seems like
Speaker 3: a hard ticket to get Miami.
Speaker 1: No seats available, Like what's going on in Miami. This
Speaker 1: is where they held like the World Baseball Classic, and it.
Speaker 2: Was it was packed in staff look like the last
Speaker 2: twenty years of Reds games, where you know, by July
Speaker 2: and August there's no one in the stands, and it
Speaker 2: looked like a late season we've been eliminated game, doesn't
Speaker 2: it years?
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is it? This class just.
Speaker 2: Started and there's nobody here.
Speaker 5: What do you do?
Speaker 3: And it's Miami, it's indoors. It's not like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: kids are in school and the weather's cold.
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I don't get it either, Like they just keep hanging
Speaker 3: around having a team. Even when they were good, they
Speaker 3: couldn't fill the place.
Speaker 1: Did you see that Tampa's stadium is finally back to
Speaker 1: operating again?
Speaker 5: Is it back?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: It looks good. It's got that weird glass structure on top.
Speaker 1: But whatever. I'm also going on that this is a
Speaker 1: huge sports weekend. By the way, of course, it is time.
Speaker 2: For the Masters, a tradition unlike any other.
Speaker 1: UMI like any other. And of course last night was
Speaker 1: the Master's Champion's dinner. I didn't realize this, but the
Speaker 1: winner from last year obviously they picked them in you
Speaker 1: we know that he pays for everybody too, not that
Speaker 1: he can't. I mean, Rory wins money all the time,
Speaker 1: won four million bucks last year from this thing. But
Speaker 1: this is the most expensive Masters Champion dinner they've ever had,
Speaker 1: at three hundred and eighteen a plate spent over nine
Speaker 1: thousand dollars on food, like a little wedding last night.
Speaker 8: Side.
Speaker 1: So some of the things that Rory had for his dinner,
Speaker 1: which I think this sounds delicious, bacon wrapped dates, rock shrimp, tempora,
Speaker 1: elk sliders, wagou filet mignon okay, wonder worth seared salmon,
Speaker 1: and sticky toffee pudding okay for three eighteen. That's a
Speaker 1: hell of a lineup.
Speaker 2: That's a good especially with that wagu full of by
Speaker 2: the way, you would definitely I was like, okay, well
Speaker 2: the elk you can get that at Jungle Gyms.
Speaker 1: I've never had elk before. I'd eat it.
Speaker 2: But the way you the elk and elk is delicious.
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god, have you had elk?
Speaker 2: I've had elk like chicken chicken.
Speaker 1: We don't know. It's like I just use like chicken.
Speaker 2: Tastes like a couple of lawyers.
Speaker 1: What would be your dinner then? Like an appetizer, dinner, desserts, oh.
Speaker 2: If anything, so appetizer wings and then just a simple
Speaker 2: man simple I do wings for the appetizer.
Speaker 1: For the main I was kind of saucy going with
Speaker 1: like a spicy buffalo, a.
Speaker 2: Spicy no like Frank's red hot, right out of the bottle.
Speaker 1: I love me some fans to go.
Speaker 2: It's so good for dinner. The main definitely more wings
Speaker 2: and then now I probably do.
Speaker 1: Like, come on, you gotta be like anything else, like
Speaker 1: a pasta.
Speaker 2: I could do something nice.
Speaker 1: You could do whatever you want. It's your dinner. You
Speaker 1: won the Masters.
Speaker 2: I probably do. I'd probably do a steak, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: like the protein steak, and then like something like that,
Speaker 2: and what's your dessert? Then then we bring more wings
Speaker 2: back olaya.
Speaker 1: Nothing sweet you don't want, like a pie or something,
Speaker 1: any ice cream, maybe some graters, black.
Speaker 2: Rasberry chip, here's a mint. Shut up.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's kind of a boring menu.
Speaker 2: Boring. You put me on the spot. I mean, he
Speaker 2: had a year to think of this.
Speaker 1: I'm going skyline dip Jeff Ruby's steak and a little
Speaker 1: bit of black raspberry chip from Greaters.
Speaker 2: There you go, you're like the female seg everything Montgomery
Speaker 2: in and then you have a ron roost. And then
Speaker 2: I go to.
Speaker 3: Go to crap and Holtman's and get a jelly doughnut,
Speaker 3: sucked the jelly out and then I would I chew
Speaker 3: up some getta and spin it back in like a
Speaker 3: baby bird.
Speaker 1: See during the Stooge Report, Willie needs to ask seg
Speaker 1: what his what his master's menu look like, and then
Speaker 1: we can.
Speaker 2: Compare that carpelling human being. What would you put on
Speaker 2: your menu? If anything?
Speaker 1: I think Tom brannanman should tell us what his master's
Speaker 1: menu would be. Tom, you get to pick an appetizer
Speaker 1: and entree and a dessert.
Speaker 2: What Mike three, Mike three one, so we can.
Speaker 1: Get Tom's take on his master's ship.
Speaker 2: We go here, we go. All right, I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: a little uh spinach art choke.
Speaker 7: Dip tortilla chips. Yes, okay, okay, what's eat him? Because
Speaker 7: my bride is a peda gal. All right, Uh, dinner
Speaker 7: is going to be New York strip.
Speaker 1: Oh, we're all going steak.
Speaker 2: With fried chicken?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite fried chicken?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Tom, I think ruined that I had menu item for generations.
Speaker 2: Give me a break chicken ut.
Speaker 7: I don't know, somewhere good because I Lovesta they do
Speaker 7: pretty good chicken chicken.
Speaker 2: And then you you get to put what I am
Speaker 2: picking a drumstick.
Speaker 7: I gave up the sweets for lent and I mean
Speaker 7: to tell you it was a bee line straight for
Speaker 7: that freezer.
Speaker 3: Yes, what did you guys pick? I went wings, wings,
Speaker 3: and wings a dessert.
Speaker 1: You said, wings for desert.
Speaker 2: I'll have another cocktail. Thanks, that's my dessert.
Speaker 1: Fair like an espressove maurtini or just a.
Speaker 2: Bottle of bourbon.
Speaker 1: It's your dinner.
Speaker 2: Because we got to be hammered when we're talking trash
Speaker 2: about Tiger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Tiger was not there last night.
Speaker 2: You know, there was some serious Tom Tom And I'm
Speaker 2: going to Tom's because he's gotchicken. Thank him, thank him.
Speaker 4: You know you're the.
Speaker 1: Chicken right there.
Speaker 2: It's clucking good. Thank you, Sarah, Thank you Tom, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, go red.
Speaker 2: This is the home of the Red seven hundred. Nobody
Speaker 2: all do