WEBVTT - 1-6-25 Dan Carroll in for Willie 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.640 Back on the Big One seven HUNDREDLW twelve O eight 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.440 Dan Perill in for the Great American Bill Cunningham taking 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.239 the day off. This is my first show of the 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.680 new year, So Happy New Year to everyone who was listening. 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:23.440 And I got to tell you that today was one 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.639 of those days. I came in and I really was 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:27.520 I don't have a guest until twelve thirty. Well, I 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.319 do have a guest now, but I didn't have a 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.120 guest until twelve thirty. And I was thinking to myself, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.160 you know, I just got a bunch of different things 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.479 I want to talk about, and one of them was 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.440 the Hamilton County prosecutors have decided that they will not 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:47.160 pursue the death penalty against Rodney Hitton, who killed the 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.440 sheriff step and he back in May of last year. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.600 So they have decided that he is going to be 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.720 able to use the not guilty by reason of insanity defense. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.640 Then you've got this dude who's taken a hammer to 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.880 the home of jd Vance and busting out windows, and 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.560 jd Vance is saying, hey, look, you know, maybe it's 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.600 a it's not a good idea if you show my 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.200 house on TV all the time, and then we've got 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.960 all kinds of other stuff going on, and I'm thinking 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.080 to myself, you know what is going to be the 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.720 main thing I'm going to talk about. And I come 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.319 in and literally I hear the news on the radio 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.640 and we know that af Tab Purval and the members 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.119 of council are being sworn in today. And af Tab 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.560 Purval comes out and says, you know what, if we're 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:35.639 going to address crime in the city of Cincinnati, well 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.480 we need more money. We got it, we got to 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.080 have a tax increase. So af Tab Purval comes out 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:47.560 and proposes an income tax increase during his second inauguration speech, 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.720 which happened just a little while ago. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:50.720 And I'm thinking to. 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:55.000 Myself, I don't recall this mayor running for re election 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.920 and campaigning on the issue of raising taxes. I mean, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.280 there was all safety was the number one issue. And 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.520 now it seems that we have a mayor who says, 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.600 if we're going to have safety in the city of Cincinnati, 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.600 we're going to need more money from you, the people 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.080 who earn money in the city of Cincinnati. And so 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.680 and maybe I'm thinking to myself, maybe I missed this. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.600 Maybe there was a part of the campaign. I tried 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.840 to follow it as best I could. I saw some 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.760 of the debates on TV, you know, read articles stuff 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.920 like that, and I just don't recall this. And I thought, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.440 you know what, I'm going to call the guy who 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.399 ran against Aftab. I'm gonna call Corey Bowman, and I'm 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:41.400 going to ask him if Aftab Purval spoke openly, loudly, 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.240 proudly about this, that he was all about raising the 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.320 income tax in the city of Cincinnati, if we are 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.880 going to get serious once and for all about addressing 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:55.120 crime in this city. And Corey Bowman, I got myself 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.400 a little worked up there. Thank you for being here, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:01.959 Pastor Bowman, And let me let me ask you the question. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.720 You were there, You were a part of the campaign 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.280 day in and day out. You saw what f Tab 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.560 Purval was putting on social media and all the rest 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.600 of it. You were there with the debates and everything else. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.839 Is this a key issue? A main issue? I would 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.000 think that raising taxes would be a big issue in 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.079 a political campaign. Maybe I missed it, But did af 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.200 Tam Purval go out and campaign on this that? 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:25.960 You know what? 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.480 My first the first thing I talked about in my 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.400 inaugural address is going to be the need to raise 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.560 earning taxes in the city of Cincinnai. Did that happen 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:35.600 and did I just miss it? 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:37.640 Well? 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.640 First off, Dan, thank you so much for having me. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:40.480 Happy New Year. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.200 Yeah, and if you know, a great American Bill, if 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:46.920 he's listening, you know, I hope he's. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.360 Having a great day off in a good new year 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:48.840 as well. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.600 But yeah, I wouldn't say as far as the campaign goes. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:56.400 We did have debates to where we had questions regarding 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:57.600 a lot of different issues. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.040 And I remember in one of. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.680 The debates they did ask, you know, as far as 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.160 what would be our you know, mindset as far as 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.440 raising taxes go, as far as the earnings tax, And 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.520 I think it's you know, should be fairly obvious that, 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.760 you know, there's kind of a couple of ways of thinking. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.960 Is one, are you actually going to have practical solutions 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.640 to the problems of our city, or is your solution 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.919 just we just got to throw more money at it. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.120 And we've seen time and time again that, you know, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.600 whether it be with the five point two million dollars 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:31.120 that they put as an influx into public safety this 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.479 last summer in response to all the violent crime that 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.440 was increasing downtown, or whether it be the Act for 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.400 Sincy that was happening that got three point two million 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.359 dollars out of the city budget, or whether even with 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.360 the curfew centers when we put I think it was 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.320 three hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars into curfew centers 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.800 that didn't see one teenager come through the doors. I 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.480 think the question you have to ask yourself is you know, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.800 are you it's not that are you surprised that he 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.640 wants to raise taxes? I think prizes is that they 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.040 don't know how to manage money. They don't know how 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.000 to spend it properly. And when you run on raising 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.560 taxes but yet you're not spending the money that you 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.560 have right now properly, that's going to basically decrease any 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.480 confidence that people have in their government. We're seeing that 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:21.280 even in Minnesota right now, people have lost all hope 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.960 in the government spending their tax money wisely because of 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.040 all this fraud. Well in Cincinnati, you know, I don't 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.000 necessarily think it's to that extent, at least. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:30.320 I hope not. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.120 But a big thing is that they keep on funneling 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:38.880 money into nonprofits, contractors, NGOs, and community initiatives that don't 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.279 do anything to curb the violence or the crime in 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:41.760 our city. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.560 So we've had all this hundreds of thousands or ten 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.680 and tens of thousands and maybe even millions of dollars 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.840 going out to what to fight crime, and we've had 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.400 all these swings and missus. So are all these programs 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.480 going to continue? Are all these things going We're going 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:02.480 to continue doing all that plus an additional whatever the 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.919 number is, point one five percent of earning sex increase. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.800 And so once we have this new pot of money, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.880 then things are really going to get serious about fighting 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:14.159 crime in the city of Cincidata. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.640 Is that is that this as we're getting here? 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.280 Well, we saw the same thing with the railroad fund. Right, Hey, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.120 you know we don't have enough money. We're going to 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.280 sail the railroad and that's how we're going to fix 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.880 our road. Yes, well, our potholes are just as worse 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.640 as they ever were before. So now they're telling us, oh, 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.400 we can't fight crime unless we have more money. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:36.679 We're not driving with gold right now. We're not everything 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.560 as smooth as the red carpet rolling from from the 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.919 West Side over to uh, you know, over to Mount Adams. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.279 That's not happening right now. 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.880 Now, Now here's the thing that you got to look 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.680 at from a from a practical aspect of it, from 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:54.240 the city budget perspective. Right now, the earnings tax, last 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.040 numbers I looked at, and they could be higher or 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.400 lower slightly, but overall it's about sixty four percent of 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.520 our city revenue comes through the earnings tax. Well, if 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.520 you look at the budget going out, roughly about sixty 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.080 four percent of that or high or lower, you know, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.960 depending on what you're looking at, of the city funds 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.960 are going toward public safety. And so our process whenever 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.760 we were running our campaign was you can't run on 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.840 decreasing an earnings tax right now with the city budget 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:27.640 and then also fund the public safety more. You have 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.400 to have a plan in place to figure out, Okay, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.120 where's the money coming from. So their justification is our 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.160 current earnings tax is what funds are sixty four percent 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.840 of the budget going toward public safety. The only way 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.920 you're going to be able to increase public safety is 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.040 to increase the earnings tax. I would beg to differ 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.040 with that because I think you've got to look into 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.800 an extreme external external I would say a third party 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.480 needs to look into an audit of how this money 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.440 is being spent in the public safety and see how 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.360 much of it is actually going toward administrative cost going 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.600 into the these community initiatives or these things that might 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.880 pick up trash or paint a door, but they don't 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.960 actually fight front. And then the last thing I would 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.920 say too, is that right now, we just extended the 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.960 contract for an investigation into how Chief Fiji was let go. 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.800 The initial number was forty thousand that went into that. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.480 Let's not forget that we're paying a settlement to Michael Washington, 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.760 who in the public safety sector, who was wrongfully released 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.040 as the fire chief, and now we're paying a settlement 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.080 to that. Soking like there's a potential settlement or potential 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.280 funds that are going into the firing of Sherman Smith, 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.120 another fire officer. And then you've got this whole investigation 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.240 going on with Chief Fiji, which is going to be 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.439 draining more of the funds as well. All this has 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.640 to do with public safety as well and officers that 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.400 are being wrongly let go. So I think that we've 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.720 got to look at it all as not do we 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.320 need to increase earnings tax and put more of a 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.360 burden on the businesses the people of Cincinnati. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:02.400 Let's look at how. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.640 We're spending the money now and see what actually sees results. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.000 Yeah, and let's not forget the eight point one million 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.960 dollar settlement that is going to go to those individuals 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:16.200 who were disobeying the legal and lawful curfew that was 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.079 in place in the city of Cincinnati back during the 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.960 Summer of Love in twenty twenty. So we've got apparently 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.680 we've got money for that. But when it comes to 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.280 public safety, you know, and I've been thinking ever since 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.320 the election, Corey Bowman, I really I haven't heard much, 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.800 if anything at all from the mayor. I haven't heard 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.840 much of anything at all from the city manager. They 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.400 won't come on this radio station. Every time we have 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.040 a member of council come on, they do an interview 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.680 and they talk about, well, you know what, we really 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.839 we don't have great communication. We really don't know what's 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.600 going on. I can't answer questions about the chief, I 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.920 can't answer questions about the settlement. I can't answer questions 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.920 about an eleven year old who gets killed in the 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.160 West End two years after it was requested that we 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.480 get lights and cameras out there so. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:01.600 We can see what's going on. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.600 But Corey Bowman, I'm getting ready for the show today 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.959 and on my social media, up pops a video from 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.680 the mayor and the city manager. And here's the issue 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.199 that they're talking about on their social media. Dave hit 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.960 that cut cut number two, New year, new sign, the 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:19.480 glow up. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.640 You've all been waiting for. Let us turn the lights 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:22.480 on Cincinnati. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:24.800 Ah. 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.800 So you see it's a celebration of the new sign 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.320 out there on the convention Center. So they don't want 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.960 to come and answer questions about all these other issues 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.160 that's going on, but we got the new sign out there. 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.280 So that is the thing I think that Corey Bowman 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.079 that they would like us all to be focused on, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.880 is that there's a new sign in the city of 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.240 Cincinnati that welcomes people to our town. Because as we know, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.920 everything is perfectly fine in the city of Cincinnati, perfectly safe, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.080 nothing to worry about, Come on down, have a great time, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.160 and the mayor and the city manager are all about it. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.360 And what I would say with this is that you know, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.719 this is an election year for me, This isn't a 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.920 city election year. These are people that are getting sworn 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.400 in because and we have to respect the results of 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.120 the election. You know every person who voted, but I 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.120 just you know, what I would push is that when 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.880 I talk to people on the streets, but more personally, 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.640 for me, when I talk to the family members that 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.679 are part of my church that lost a granddaughter. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:25.600 Over the last week. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:26.839 When I stood in. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.160 Laurel Park at midnight and talking bridging the gap between 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.520 cops that were there to protect the family and the 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.520 family members on the street, I realized that we have 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.400 to come together as a city and address real issues. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:43.240 We have to make this public safety a number one priority. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.640 It's not about militarizing, it's about spending the money properly. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.959 It's also and I want to bring this to light 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.760 as well. Right now, we're twenty percent understaffed with the 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.880 police officers. It doesn't matter what organization you're a part of. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.680 If you're twenty percent understaffed, you're going to lack in 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.760 productivity as matter if it's a factory or a school 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.640 or whatever. You've got police that are drowning because there 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.560 is too much work for the eighty percent of staff 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.720 members that are there well, because of things. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:13.160 How they're run. 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.040 Right now, you have a lot of potential officers that 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.800 are not going to enter into the drop, which basically 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.360 means that they're eligible for retirement, but they still stay 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.640 on the job. And so right now there's a reality 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.920 that there could potentially be fifty, sixty, even eighty officers 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.400 that take the retirement over the next year, and then 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.040 we're dropping down to thirty percent understaff. This is a 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.080 huge problem in our city. We've got to do lateral hiring, 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.640 we've got to spend our money properly, and we've got 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.240 to think about the communities that voted these elected officers in. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.800 And Corey Bowman, the thing is, these issues that you 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.560 talk about are not issues that have developed over the 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.480 past weekend or maybe over the last month. These are 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.800 issues that have been around for multiple years and have 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.400 been addressed in a serious or meaningful way. And now 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.560 we get to the point to where we have the 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.680 mayor say that, look, we're gonna look at these issues. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.800 We got to have more money. So it just it 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:16.720 is a just a gross failure of leadership. And I 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.040 don't We've got about thirty seconds left here. Do you 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.640 see any hope that these things are going to get 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.560 addressed with. This is not a new council, but a 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.560 re elected council that is coming back in with one 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:30.079 new member. 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.800 Well, I think the question is do you not shouldn't 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.040 be do you see hope? But are you gonna are 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.720 you willing to move forward and inspire hope? You know, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.440 for me, I jumped into a race last year to 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.400 get the voice out of these issues, to get it 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.840 involved in the conversation. I think that the people that 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.040 rose up and started making these issues at the forefront 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.640 of the conversation. You have to be even more vocal 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.480 right now. Hold people accountable, because that's the only thing 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.960 that's going to provide any hope for us to move forward. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.040 Cincinnati is still, in my opinion, the greatest city on 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.160 the face of the earth, not only because of what 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.720 it is but what it can be. And I love 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.560 the people, I love the community no matter how they voted. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.080 But we all have to be able to see different 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.600 solutions if we want to move forward in these areas. 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.040 All right, well, Corey Bowman, I appreciate you jumping on 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:22.120 on short notice. Today We're all going to pray for 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.640 a Queen er and her family and hopefully something will 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.280 get done. And you are, as I said before, I'll 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.400 say it again. You are the man in the arena 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.720 and I appreciate you taking the time and the work 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.720 that you do every single day. That's the vast majority 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.920 of that work is not in the spotlight. But I 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:44.080 appreciate you being here to share your opinion today. Corey Bouman, 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:45.440 all the best of you, my friend, and we will 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:46.360 talk on down the road. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.800 Hey, thank you so much for having me. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:49.040 Dan. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.000 All right, there you go, Corey Bouman, the man who 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.400 would have been married, and we ran out of time, 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.760 but I wanted to ask him what he would have 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.680 said if he were the one being sworn in today, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.240 but we'll have time to do that at a later date. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.560 Twelve three Dan Carrolyn for Bill Cunningham The Great America 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:12.320 on seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW twelve thirty seven 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.880 Dan Carroll for Bill Cunningham. And as I mentioned at 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.720 the top of the broadcast today, it is my first 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.000 show with the new year. And if it's my first 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:22.400 show of the new year, I can't think of a 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.040 better way to have a first show of the new 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:26.760 year than to have my guest. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:27.400 I have now. 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:32.920 Cheryl Chumley is the online opinion editor at The Washington Times. 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.800 She's an author, she's a military veteran, and just a 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:42.400 great guest and a great commentator on the current state 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.400 of events that we find ourselves dealing with right now. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.640 And Cheryl Chumley, it is great to have you on 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.720 first time in twenty twenty six. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:50.240 How are you. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.880 Thanks to Cheryl, thank you so much for having me on. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:55.280 Happy New Year, having a new. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:55.720 Year to you. 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.040 I guess you're not making plans anytime soon to move 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:03.520 to New York City so you can experience the warmth 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.160 of the collective. I'm guessing that's not not in your 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:07.000 immediate plans. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.760 I don't even want to visit New York City, never 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:14.560 mind moving there. So yeah, ma'am, Donnie can can keep 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.080 the city, he can have it. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.360 You know this, I mean this phrase, the frigidity of 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.600 rugged individualism. They're going to furglore that too, to have 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.560 the warmth of the collective. This is not a mistake. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.440 This is a phrase that has historical context, and you 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.280 talk about it in your in the in the Substack 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.360 that you just put out talking about how this whole 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.760 thing is a bloody lie. But this has historical context 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.440 to it. That goes back to the Soviet Union, that 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.320 goes back to China and Mao, that goes back to 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.480 Nazi Germany, for God's sake, And and you know, we 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:53.520 had this, this grotesque display of wallowing in socialism and capitalism. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:57.400 Bernie Sanders, was there, aoc was there? You have Lea 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.000 Tisha James. You had the governor of New York all 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:05.760 all celebrating the greatness of socialism on New Year's Day 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.800 in New York, the greatest city on the face of 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.119 the earth, and he comes out with this in a 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.320 warmth of the collective. And I mean, this has got 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.399 to be a precursor, I mean for terrible things that 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:20.600 are going to come down the road. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:28.119 It definitely is right. But here's the light at the 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:33.119 end of the tunnel. At least the Democrats are acknowledging 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.760 that what they're putting out there is collectivism, because I 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.680 don't know how many years you can go back in time. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.280 Twenty thirty years you can go back easily. And the 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:45.040 Democrat Party has been moving socialists for a very long time, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.200 but they've been calling it something else. They've been calling 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:52.520 it progressivism, they've been calling it democratic socialism. They constantly 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.240 water it down and they fight the label of socialism. 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.400 And if you call them communists or socialists, they start 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.640 talking about, well, that's not really socialist, that's not really 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:07.119 communists because we let people have control of production still, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.600 and they go down this scholarly rabbit hole that just 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.520 confuses people. Right, So finally we have somebody who's calling 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.000 it what it is, collectivism and it is the opposite 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:22.359 of individualism, which makes it in one hundred percent conflict 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:23.159 with America. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.960 And it's not just Mandanni himself, it's the people that 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.040 he is putting in place around him that share his 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.040 vision and may even have a stronger vision of this 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.399 than he does. And I want to play a SoundBite 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.720 from his what the what they call his tenant director. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.159 See Weaver is this individual and I guess she's the 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.879 one that's going to be overseeing the freezing of rents 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.920 and the relationship between people who live in apartment buildings 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.639 and the owner of the buildings. And she's got some 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:59.000 interesting takes on when it comes to private property ownership 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.639 in I guess in New York City and all of 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.320 America and here or she is talking about that, Dave, 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:05.360 let's hear cut number one. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.640 The reality is is that for centuries we've really treated 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.680 property as an individualized good and not a collective good, 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.320 and we are going to and transitioning to treating it 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.399 as a collective good and towards a model of shared 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.520 equity will require that we think about it differently, and 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.919 it will mean that family is, especially white families, but 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.880 some POC families who are homeowners as well, are going 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.800 to have a different relationship to property than than than 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:40.040 the one that we currently have. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.359 The reality, so there you go, Ryl Tomley, We're going 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.000 to have a at least New Yorkers are going to 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.680 have a different relationship with personal property than you have now. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.080 Isn't that fantastic? Isn't that the brave new world that 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:54.280 we all want to step into? 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.320 Well and against his dock drop, Look at Venezuelan's right 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:04.760 cheering because they just ousted or had seized from power. Maduro, 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.399 who would believe wholeheartedly in what this woman is saying 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:13.119 about private property? Look, you know what this is setting 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.040 the stage for is lawsuit after lawsuit in New York City, 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.719 right which let's remember, is going to be fought with 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.320 tax dollars. So it's going to be a wasteful expenditure 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.920