1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,120 Speaker 1: Was seedy. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: I'm telling you whole field throughout we. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 3: Had that and lost one time, and we had that 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 3: in one one time. But for this team, I think 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: it's a perfect. 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Scenario for them. 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: They're in control of everything and if they played football 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: like they did the last two months of the season, 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: it was a good mixture, a good combination. It was 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: a great to me, it was great personnel groupings and 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: it was it was awesome in my opinion. It was 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: the play call was awesome for the personnel that we 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 3: had on the on the field, and that's why we 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: ran off the eleven straight that we ran off and 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: put ourselves in the position to get home Fiel advantage. 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 2: Did you I don't know. 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 4: And and Dave, we didn't talk to something about this yesterday, 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: but we hinted at the style points thing. I don't know, 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 4: like did you need this is I want to frame it. 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: Last year in the Kansas City game, right final game 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 4: of the year, they blew out Kansas City, right Kansasity's 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 4: playing all backups. 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Was that thirty seven to three, maybe had four. 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 4: Passing touchdowns, and I mean it was it was a 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 4: no contest right now, This one in a lot of 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 4: ways was too, but a little bit different. 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: They didn't have. 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: Quite the explosion of offense. 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: Now we fast forward, so the Chiefs game happens. 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: Then they go to Buffalo and they score one touchdown 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: and they get they get blown out right, you get 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 4: the one long touchdown pass in the. 33 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Beginning to Troy Franklin. 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: First, yeah, it was great and we thought, hey, you're 35 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: you're carrying over this momentum. But then it just really 36 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: didn't didn't happen. So now we fast forward to this year. 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: A lot of Broncos fans were looking for a dominant 38 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 4: performance to swing into the postseason with this team flying high, 39 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 4: and they just didn't get it. So is that any 40 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: kind of determination for you of what we're going to 41 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: see in the postseason? Not really neither. No, I think 42 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: that again, I I may. 43 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 5: Have more respect for the Chargers defense than a lot 44 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 5: of other people here, and I think and they were 45 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 5: missing three starters on defense, which to me means they 46 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: had eight guys that normally started that started that they're 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 5: I mean, they're going to go back to New England 48 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 5: and maybe New England boat races the Chargers because they 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 5: the Chargers. Their offensive line is below average, with the injuries. 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 5: Herbert I think is a dude, but you know, the 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 5: Patriots will make him very uncomfortable. Maybe at the end 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 5: of the day, New England wins that game thirty seven 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 5: to ten. I'm just telling you I don't see it. 54 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: I just I think the Chargers are really good on defense. 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 5: So back to your original question style points I get. 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 5: I think some coaches, some NFL coaches from time to time, 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 5: you know, they say they're not all that interested in stats, 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 5: but some of them really are. And you get a 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 5: chance to throw a touchdown pass, or you get a 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 5: chance to get some what you know, hidden yardage in 61 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 5: the running game at the end of the game, those 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 5: coaches that's why they keep They keep statistics, you know, 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 5: before the game in terms of what where this team 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 5: ranks in rushing yards per game and passing yards per 65 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: game and passing touchdowns and sacks and everything else. They 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 5: keep all those stats. So some coaches, when they get 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: the opportunity to sort of bolster some of those stats, 68 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 5: NFL guys do that. Some of those guys do that, 69 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 5: And I don't have any issue with that, but that 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 5: you know that I think would have been what it 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: would have been last Sunday against the Chargers. 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you come down that, Rod? I mean, 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: what are you hoping to see? 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: It's first of all, it's hard winning games. And like 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: you said, they wasn't down that many starters if you 76 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: look at it. We're down a couple of starters on 77 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: defense too. You know, I say, fuse down and then 78 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: we've had some guys law. Yeah, so John Frankly Myers 79 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: didn't play. But that's what I'm saying. We have three 80 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: starters down on defense as well. Of course them taking 81 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: their quarterback out of play. Definitely, it's a different it's 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: a different thing. But I can tell you the game 83 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: plans are completely different for both teams. They're not game 84 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: the game planning to stay healthy and not get hurt. 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: We need to win the game. They don't need to 86 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: win the game. 87 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: And so we played to win the game with its 88 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: minimum effort as possible without us risking any person any personnel, 89 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: because we know in two weeks is when when when 90 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: we're into what we call a three round fight, and 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: we want to go all three rounds, and so you can't, 92 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: you know, everybody gets caught up in all the points 93 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: and all that stuff. Remember when the Patriots was seventeen 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 3: and oh and they end up losing Super Bowl? 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: Is that what you want? Is that what matters? No? 96 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: No one talks about that team anymore. 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: And correct me if I'm wrong. 98 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: And you guys would, I mean, you guys lived it, 99 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: so didn't Was it a Miami that that the Broncos played. 100 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: And they beat the crap out of us? Yeah? 101 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: And then you knew we were gonna see them again. 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: We knew he was gonna play them in in the playoffs, 103 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: and we we we had three running back rust over 104 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: one hundred yards against them, Vonn, TD and Dark Lavelle 105 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: rushed for one hundred. TD had almost two hundred. Vonugh 106 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: he came out, Laval had one hundred. I think Vaughn 107 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: had probably almost close to one hundred. We had like 108 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty yards offense. It was like thirty 109 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: eight to three. Yeah, but you knew that's how it 110 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: was gonna be, right, especially if you might see a 111 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: team again. You don't want to you don't want to 112 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: show your hand. Yeah, And but but people and I 113 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: saw something like this, and I'm sure you guys saw 114 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: it and heard it. We're the most unimpressive number one seed. 115 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: In the AFC. 116 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 2: We're just talking about that, which. 117 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 3: Is stupid because there's still thirty was it, No. Sixteen 118 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: or sixteen other teams in the AFC and we're number one, 119 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: and you're saying it's unimpressive, Well, why didn't somebody take 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: the spot? 121 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Then you think they wasn't trying. We found a way 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: to win games. 123 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: They found a way to lose games, and no one 124 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: ever said that to the Chiefs when they were winning 125 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: one score games. 126 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: And the key you can. 127 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: Have all the style points you want at the end 128 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: of the day is to get it chance in the 129 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: dance and we're there. We get a chance to play 130 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: at home. And here's the thing, we get to play 131 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: at home as long as we want until the Super Bowl. 132 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: If we do what we're supposed to do, will be 133 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: at home, which is we've played extremely well over the 134 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: last couple of years at home. And so what more 135 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: do you want for this group of guys? And for me, 136 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: I think it's perfect for this group of guys as 137 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 3: a younger group of guys that have a few veterans 138 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: over there, some guys who to me, they need it, 139 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: they need to be playing at home. They don't need 140 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: to be on the roll in New England. They don't 141 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: need to be playing in Buffalo. 142 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: They don't. 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: They could, but this gives them the best scenario ever 144 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: in their careers, Gary Bowles in his career. 145 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: Mcglinchy in his career. 146 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 3: This is going to be the best opportunity for them 147 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 3: to get to the Super Bowl. 148 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: What were you guys talking before that Miami game? 149 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: Was that a bit of the mindset inside the buildings 150 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: at the locker room. 151 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: Like, hey, we know, we know that we're going into. 152 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: This game, well, undefeated a week before that and we lost, right, 153 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: we're thirteen and oh we lost to the time. And 154 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: then we go play Miami and they beat the brakes 155 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: off of us with a We had a we didn't 156 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: even have a partial game plan. Mike Chehan, Trust Mike 157 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: can tell you this for like four hours of the 158 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: game play he put together and what he took out 159 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: of the game plan because he knew we were gonna 160 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: see them again, and as a player of myself, I'm 161 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: going in there to execute, We're going in there to play. 162 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't a tank game by no mean. They beat us. 163 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: They beat us, but we were very limited in what 164 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: we could do because we was living in what we 165 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: put into play. I didn't realize that honestly at the time. 166 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: I'm out there, just I'm like, man, were getting killed. 167 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: And then when you look back and pull the curtain back, 168 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: you're like, if we would have won, it wouldn't have 169 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: changed anything. 170 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Losing it didn't change anything. 171 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: But we knew if we see them later, we were 172 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: gonna put in a full game plan with the full 173 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: amount of effort from the staff, all the way down 174 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: to the to the ball boy, and go and win 175 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: that football game. 176 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: So what does that look like, Dave? 177 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: I guess for Bronkers fans listening, like, when when we 178 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 4: talk about it in terms of full game plan versus 179 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: partial game plan, what does that mean to you? 180 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's like you and I talked about it on Monday. 181 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: I think. 182 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: I think head coaches in the NFL that are let's 183 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 5: say head coaches that are that call. 184 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: One side of the ball or the other. 185 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, they can tell in the first couple of series 186 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 5: how their team is going to hold up against the opponent. 187 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 5: And I I would think that Sean Payton after the 188 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 5: first couple of series, maybe three series, in the first 189 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: quarter came to the conclusion Trey Lance and that charger offense, 190 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 5: they ain't going to be able to do anything against us. 191 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 5: So when you have that, now, I'm sure if you 192 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 5: looked at Shawn's play call sheet, it probably was extensive. 193 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: It probably had you. 194 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 5: Know, you have you have your your your plays, the 195 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 5: different breakdowns, the third and short, the third and medium, 196 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 5: the third and ten plus. You have red zone, you 197 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 5: have high red zone. You have all that, and you 198 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: have different colors in terms of things that jog sort 199 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 5: of the thought process of the head coach. Hey, I 200 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 5: want to go here. When I'm looking at the first 201 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: third down and eight plus, I'm going to go green, 202 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: and you're looking over here in the box. But after 203 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 5: the two or three series, as I was referring to, 204 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: I mean, Sean, he may have ruled out fifty percent 205 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 5: of his game plan. He may have just crossed it 206 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 5: off and you're right on there, do not call. So 207 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 5: I'm not really all that worried. I think the Broncos 208 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 5: have exhibited exactly who they are. They're a team that 209 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: is capable of playing really well on both sides of 210 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 5: the ball. They are a team that is capable of 211 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: offensively sort of getting in a rut where they can't. 212 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: It's like being in the mud and you got Posi 213 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 5: track in the back end and your wheels are just 214 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: kind of spinning and you ain't going nowhere. 215 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: They're capable of that. Right. 216 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 5: Defensively, we've seen for the most parts, it's a team 217 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: that can rush the passer. Two things I think going 218 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 5: into these playoffs that the Broncos have to be aware of, 219 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: and I'm sure they are. The team that runs the 220 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: ball the best and the team that stops the run 221 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 5: the best will win, if not both games, certainly the 222 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: first one, and I think both games. If the Broncos 223 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: play two at home, can they run the ball effectively 224 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 5: and efficiently? And at times when the other team knows 225 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: you can run it, you're gonna run it and they 226 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 5: bring a safety down and you're facing an eight man box, 227 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 5: you have to be able to run the ball in 228 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 5: that situation. And conversely, if they play a team like 229 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, let's say Buffalo with James Cook, can 230 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 5: the Broncos front stop the run. Those two things I 231 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 5: think will determine not all of it, but a large 232 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 5: part of the success or lack of success. 233 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: The Broncos have oh man, I'd agree with you. 234 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: And here's here's something to add to what you said 235 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: that we've just seen here in the last couple of weeks, 236 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: really like probably three weeks time and possession. Our first 237 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: drive of the game, we had what twelve thirteen plays 238 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: or something like that, fifteen fifteen plays, which is insane. 239 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: They have fifteen plays on the drive. That's a mix it, 240 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: run and pass. You're definitely not throwing it down a 241 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: foroy field far if you got that many plays last 242 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: the previous week. We controlled the clock with Kansas City. 243 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: We control the clock, We control the game. The gold 244 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 3: is to win the game without getting anybody help as 245 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 3: you move toward where we're headed right now, and they've 246 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: done it the last two weeks. But I can promise 247 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: you we talked about this, David, We've all talked about 248 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: this forever. At the beginning of the year, we didn't 249 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: have an identity. We couldn't do what we call four 250 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: four minute offense, where you can control the game and 251 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: still go down there and score at will. That demoralizes 252 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: these teams, and that keeps that football in your possession. 253 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 3: The ground game and the playoffs. To me, the teams 254 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: that usually run the ball the best. They've already said 255 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: it to me. Controls the game because now you have 256 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: to get out of sorts on defense. You got to 257 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: bring that guy in the box. And that don't mean 258 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: you can't pass. But why would I when I can 259 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: rust for four four yards of carry. If I can 260 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: get four to four to five yards of carry, I'm 261 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: gonna score almost every time. 262 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you. 263 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: If I punt, it's going you're gonna be backed up. 264 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: It's gonna make a long day for you. And remember, 265 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: we've earned control of the clock and the tempo of 266 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: the game, and I think we do that. We've done 267 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 3: that extremely well the last few weeks, and I think 268 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: we haven't seen it all year like that. We came 269 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: back at the end of the game and you know, 270 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: had some firepower for two drives and to score to 271 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: win games, but we never trolled game. And that's what 272 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: I love of what's been happening in these last few weeks. 273 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: But you say, and again I don't want to sound 274 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: like wet blanket allbright here, but if you say that 275 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: the running game is what we're gonna need to lean on, 276 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: that has not been that consistent for this team. I 277 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: mean they had seventy three rushing yards in that first drive, 278 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: a fifteen play drive, seventy three rushing yards. 279 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: They had forty three for the remainder of the game 280 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: after that. 281 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, again, I think I think the Chargers playing as 282 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 5: they were playing. We had Garret Bulls on in the 283 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 5: first hour. He talked about the pressures. He said they 284 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 5: were They're blitzing us on every single play. Yeah, so 285 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 5: I think you credit the charge I think the Chargers 286 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: are much better defensively than a lot of people want 287 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 5: to give them credit for. 288 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 4: Isn't That defense was kind of sent a bit of 289 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: a message like so it's sort of like, hey, just. 290 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: In case we come back, Yeah, here's what you can 291 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 5: here's what you could expect. 292 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 293 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 5: I mean, they they and they got after Denver a 294 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 5: little bit, and I you know, I want to see 295 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 5: how Drake may in his first playoff game. And he's 296 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 5: had a great year. I mean, they have looked great. 297 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: I want to see how he handles the Charger defense. 298 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 5: Now again, maybe it turns out to be thirty four 299 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 5: to ten, I don't know, but I don't think so. 300 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 5: I think that is going to be a game that 301 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 5: is played into the fourth quarter, that is undecided. And 302 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 5: when you have Justin Herbert, even though the offensive line 303 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: is problematic for the Chargers, but with Herbert there, I 304 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: give Los Angeles a puncher's chance in that game, and 305 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 5: if they win, it's automatic they come to Denver and 306 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: that's the Broncos first home playoff game. 307 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's an interesting one, that specific game 308 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: because Justin Herbert has actually struggled a lot in the postseason, 309 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: like he sure has. 310 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: He has some tough time. 311 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: Four interceptions in Houston. 312 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. He has yet to win a postseason game. 313 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: And but meanwhile, we said this to go into it. 314 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: The Chargers sent a very clear message and we talked 315 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: to Gara Bowles about this in the first hour when 316 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: they decided to a say, play for a loss, but understanding, Hey, 317 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: our starting quarterback is not gonna play. We're gonna hold 318 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: out similar players. We think we're gonna be back here. 319 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: You're saying the message, we think we're gonna be back 320 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 4: here in two weeks. 321 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can promise you this. 322 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: They scale back on their defensive calls too. They ain't 323 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: show you all the stuff that they can do, and 324 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: they gonna run a vanilla defense with a lot of pressure. 325 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: So you go and practice against that pressure. If they 326 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: come back, you're gonna practice against that pressure. 327 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: I can tell you right now. 328 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: When James is not on the field for them, not 329 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: the same defense that kid makes plays in Irwin. Yeah, Derwin, 330 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: Derwin James is on the field, Derwin James and a 331 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: strong safety reminds me a lot of Ed Reid. Every 332 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: time the ball's somewhere, he's there and as respecting and 333 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: they're not. 334 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: He's not in the game, We're gonna run some stuff. Plus, 335 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: they had a bunch. 336 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: Of allegedly a bunch of young guys, some guys who 337 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: hadn't played all season. I think the kid Wax said, 338 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: this is his first game he got to play, played really well. 339 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: He had a really good game. 340 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: But you know what, just to and get us to 341 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: study that when that won't be the defense that they'll 342 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: bring here if they come here, they're not gonna come 343 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: with the defense they played against us. 344 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: They got some pressures on knicks and then they, like 345 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: I said, they did a pretty good Yeah. That's the 346 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: one thing like coming out of that game, I'm not 347 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: I'm not down really about almost anything. 348 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: But the offensive line did feel like they got bullied 349 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: a bit. 350 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, honestly it was. It was. 351 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: It felt like a lot of pressure. And here's here's 352 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: the thing that I noticed that we didn't do. We 353 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: could have handled those pressures with quick passing game. If 354 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: you if you're pressuring like that and you you're bringing 355 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: the stack in the box, that. 356 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Means they dare you to pass. And to me, the 357 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: quick passing game was not It wasn't clicking at all. 358 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: That's true. 359 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: It was not clicking at all. Remember the intermediate, the 360 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: five to seven years slants, the hitches, the back shower face. 361 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Because I don't want to show it. Okay, I don't 362 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: want to show. I don't want to show. Here's the thing. 363 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to show you how I'm gonna handle 364 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: all your bull blissing with my whole offense. Like he said, 365 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 3: they already vanilla down the offense. Their defense is, let 366 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: me just go man up with my guys because everybody 367 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: can play man. 368 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: It's some of the schemes and the and the. 369 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: Zone dogs and all that stuff that you get from 370 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: defenses that I don't want to put my young guys through. 371 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: And plus I don't want them to practice. That's so 372 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: you got a vanilla defense on them. Vanilla for them 373 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: is let's just put pressure on a man. The man 374 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 3: hit him in the mouth, you got him, and and 375 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: y'all go and just just sick the quarterback every snap 376 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: and on on offense, we're like, well, we just got 377 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 3: to handle this pressure up front, get some cracks, and 378 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: find a way to win the game without you know, 379 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: getting anybody injured or anything like that, because I felt 380 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: there was a lot of pressure on us. Uh every 381 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: time he dropped back, so he sat, he was moving, 382 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 3: he was running, he was dipping, he was getting out 383 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 3: of there, and he had to. He was on the 384 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: run most of the game. And that feature is a 385 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: good thing for him as well. And now they still 386 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: have to practice against that. And so it's one of 387 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: those chess It's a chess match, and it worked in 388 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: our favor. They didn't want to, Like I said, if 389 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: they won, what did they play. 390 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: If they won, they they might have gotten the sixth seed, 391 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: I think based on tiebreaker, because they were the sixth 392 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 4: seed coming into the day. 393 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: Buffalo is actually the seven. 394 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: So if the Chargers would have won, they would have 395 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 4: gone to Jacksonville, who, by the way, boat raced them 396 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: earlier this year, so they clearly didn't want to play 397 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: Jacksonville again. 398 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: Like that's what that felt like. 399 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: And so I just think I just think it was 400 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: one of those things that we have to play this game. 401 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: We need to find a way to win it as 402 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: minimal as possible, as far as from a strategic standpoint, 403 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: And so coach can go into lab and dial up 404 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: what he needs to dial up. He's going to have 405 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: the two teams that more like we're gonna play and 406 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: the Chargers. 407 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: Uh. 408 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: And I like, I say, I like, I like the 409 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: Chargers chances in New England. But I can tell you, 410 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: like you said, Drake May has played at a at 411 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: a super high level. And I I and I and 412 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: I really really hate to say what I'm about to say. 413 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: They got one of the best offensive play calls in 414 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: the game. I don't like him, and I'll tell him 415 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 3: I don't like him, but him call and plays with 416 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: that young kid. He got that kid in the right 417 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: spot with the football all the time. And if they 418 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: mix their running game in there with that, you take 419 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: Darwin James out of the game because he'll have to 420 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 3: come in that box and they throw the ball down and. 421 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 4: Field really well A right five six six nine zero 422 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: or Kia common Sperit Health text line we got rod 423 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: Smith in studio, will be right back Oka rod Smith's 424 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 4: Studio five six, sixth nine zero or Kai Comma Spirit 425 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: Health text line. Knew this text was coming in Broncos 426 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: are one and done? There frauds. I can't even who 427 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 4: said that. It's a three h three number. 428 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: How much you want to bet? Mster three h three? 429 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: How much you want to bet text on that now? 430 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: How much you want to bet? Put your money where 431 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: your mouth is. Then, since you think they're one and done, 432 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: what makes you think they're one and done? If you 433 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: got the best record in the NFL, we played teams 434 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: on the schedule, that's what we're supposed to You're supposed 435 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: to beat them. No one said you win by twenty points, 436 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 3: you get extra kudos, they said win. I love the 437 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: fact that what I love the adversity that we went 438 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: through as a group. I just know this. In the playoffs, 439 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: you can't get behind the eight ball too far because 440 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: you can't come back. Time is not on your side, 441 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: especially if teams understand what Dave said earlier, which they 442 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 3: do run the football. When you run the football, you 443 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: start grinding people into the ground. That's what I want 444 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: us to be able to do. I don't want both 445 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: league store for three hundred and fifty yards. 446 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: You know why. 447 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: That means we were losing and he had to throw 448 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: the ball. I want him to throw for about two 449 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: twenty five, two thirty. We rush for one hundred and 450 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: twenty and we get about four touchdowns. Twenty eight points 451 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: should be enough to beat every team in the playoffs 452 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: with our defense. That's what I believe, not that. 453 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. 454 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: So I asked this earlier day of Gara Bowles because 455 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: we were talking about the way they've won these games 456 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: and kind of being close and grinding them out and 457 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: you know, even to quote unquote inferior opponents, right whatever, 458 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: Just let's just scrape that away for a second. In 459 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 4: your opinion, does that Is that a good marker for 460 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 4: a team heading into the postseason or a bad one 461 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 4: that you play down to opponents or you play up 462 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: to opponents so that you that every game is is 463 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: is a grind. 464 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: Because it gets framed is a bad thing for the Broncos. 465 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think that and I've said 466 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: this before. 467 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: The Broncos have found ways to win games, which I 468 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: think is a real positive. And I think it's it's 469 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: a confidence that infuses into a locker room when you 470 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 5: show the ability even if you're behind, and they've been 471 00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: in their fourteen wins, they have been behind twelve times, right, 472 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 5: so twelve times they've been able to come back and 473 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 5: find a. 474 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: Way to win. So I think I think it. I 475 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: think it's a plus. 476 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 5: They they have had stretches where they don't they don't 477 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 5: look like they're an efficient team. I don't watch every 478 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 5: other team. I watch every other game that I'm able 479 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: to watch. You know, again, I go back to Week one, 480 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 5: the Raiders go on the road and beat New England 481 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 5: in New England. Okay, everybody thought at that point the 482 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 5: Raiders they're going to be a competitive team and the 483 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 5: Patriots are going to be just what the Patriots have 484 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 5: been the last few years. 485 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Well, neither of those two things were true. 486 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 5: So there's believe it or not, between the playoff teams 487 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 5: and the teams that didn't make the playoffs that the 488 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 5: margin between those two sets of teams is thin. 489 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: It's just not. 490 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 5: It's not a substantial margin, right, So you'd love to 491 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: be able to boat race teams, and it's just by 492 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 5: and large in the NFL. The league loves the fact 493 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 5: that there's parody and that, you know, new teams in 494 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 5: the playoffs. This is exactly what Roger Goodell wanted and 495 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: those that were in his place before him, and so 496 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: they they want this every weekend action, like you know, 497 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 5: I know this team is favored by seven, but damn 498 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 5: that other team. 499 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: They want that. It engages the fans. 500 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 5: It gives fans of lousy teams hope that this week 501 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 5: is going to gonna be different. There's no there's no 502 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 5: dominant team I think right now if you looked in 503 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 5: the NFC, I. 504 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: Mean, Chicago's the number two seed, that's right. 505 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 5: Are you confident the number two seed this weekend at 506 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 5: home in Chicago is gonna. 507 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: Beat save number seven seed. 508 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 5: No, they play green, right, So the number two seed 509 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 5: in the NFC, they've had a great season in Chicago. 510 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 5: New coach, offensive minded guy Caleb Williams has. 511 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: Had a good season. They're playing in Chicago. 512 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 5: Everybody real confident the Bears number two seed are gonna 513 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: beat the Packers number seven seed. I'm not because there's 514 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 5: not much difference between two and seven. There's there's just 515 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 5: not the The most dominant team that I've seen, at 516 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 5: least the last three or four weeks is Seattle. 517 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: I agree with you now, And. 518 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: They can go south in a minute if Sam Darnold 519 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 5: decides to throw the ball to the wrong team. But 520 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 5: from a defensive standpoint, they are a problem. And they 521 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 5: you know, we'll see how they play on offense. 522 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 4: And they got that home field up there in Seattle. Yeah, 523 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: that's gonna be that's gonna be really big. No, I 524 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: think that that's that's all exactly right. I mean, in fact, 525 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: there's only one game, The Panthers Rams game is the 526 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: only one that's a double digits favorite. Everyone else is 527 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: like a one and a half. Green Bays favorite by 528 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 4: one and a half. Buffalo is favored by one and 529 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: a half. Build up his four and a half. New 530 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: England's three and a half. I mean these are all, 531 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: I mean, really close. Jacksonville has had a great year. 532 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: Everybody talking about how smart Liam Cohen is. You know what, 533 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: I think he is smart? 534 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: Uh, you know, the. 535 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 5: Quarterback has emerged and he's sort of found himself they 536 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 5: come into Denver, play really well, beat the Broncos decisively. 537 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 5: They got a home game coming up, first round of playoffs. 538 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 5: People in Jacksonville two swimming pools in the stadium. 539 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: They're all excited. 540 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 5: You gotta be shocked if Buffalo goes in and beats Jacksonville. 541 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 5: I'm not, absolutely not. There's not much to choose between 542 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 5: these teams. 543 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: No. 544 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: I love the way you said that, and I'm looking 545 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: at the bracket just to go off with just the 546 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: bracket for the playoffs. You gotta remember, the parody in 547 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: the league is what they've always tried to keep going. 548 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: So you can't just you know, there's always been a 549 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: time when there's a run, like the Chiefs had a run, 550 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: We had a run, the poss had to run, the 551 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: Steelers had a run. But think about it. The Panthers 552 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: are in the playoffs, the Bears are in the playoffs, 553 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: the Jaguars are in the playoffs. You got the Texans 554 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: have been in there the last few years, been right 555 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: there every year. But the Broncos wasn't supposed to be. 556 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: It's where we are in the last couple of years 557 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 3: with a brand new quarterback. We weren't supposed to get 558 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: into playoffs last two years. But so the parody in 559 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: the league is working. And like he says, there's not 560 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: a big difference this whole blowouts versus one score games. 561 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: All these gonna be close. I think they're gonna be 562 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 3: some freaking close games because the teams who are going 563 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: into these other places they've been here before, like the Bills. 564 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 3: The Bills have been here before. The Bills going to 565 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: the Jags is nothing new. 566 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: To the Bills. 567 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: The Bills have been on the road in the playoffs 568 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 3: in Kents City. They've been you know what I'm saying, 569 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 3: They've been doing this stuff for a minute. Jaguars haven't 570 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: been doing it, but the Bills have been doing it 571 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: with the parents. Who ever thought the parents was getting 572 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 3: the playoffs anytime? So Rice Young was Rodeolph as a 573 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: so called bus two years ago and this I'm just 574 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: glad to see the kid come back in the organization. 575 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: I don't even know who they're coaching. I think they 576 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: got a new coaching, you see what I'm saying. So, 577 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: and then, to me, the biggest shaka with the Bears. 578 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: The Bears flipped their entire organization around in one year, 579 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: and it's hard to do that in the NFL, It's 580 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: hard to do they. 581 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you think people in Chicago, and I asked 582 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 5: this question, I think the Bear is gonna beat the Package, 583 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 5: though they might. 584 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: The Bears and their coach man something about me. 585 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 3: It's something about how they love that man, like they 586 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: go on the field for him and you see it 587 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: in the locker room. That kind of stuff. To Chicago 588 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: don't think that's real. But that energy from the players 589 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: and the coaches is real. 590 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: They love the Bears this year. 591 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 5: I mean, Chicago loves football and they've had lousy football 592 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 5: seemingly forever. 593 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty years, even. 594 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 5: More than twenty and then they had one year with 595 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 5: the Bears in eighty five, but other than that, you 596 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 5: got to go back to sixty three, the last time 597 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 5: they won a championship. That said, if the Bears lose 598 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 5: to the Packers and it's basically a toss up game, 599 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 5: do you think people in Chicago will say, oh, the 600 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: Bears Bears are a fraud, or people nationally will say 601 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 5: the Bears are a fraud. I just don't see that now. 602 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 5: I don't either, So why then do they say if 603 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 5: the Broncos the Broncos are a fraud. And if they lose, 604 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 5: this has been a fraud of a season. Why not 605 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 5: for the Bears. Bears are the second seed. I mean, 606 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 5: you know, Jacksonville is the third seed. If Jacksonville loses 607 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 5: the Buffalo or they're a fraud, they're a fraud. I 608 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 5: mean it's. 609 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Coaches. 610 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: You got to think about Sean's been in three years. 611 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: The Jacksonville's coach been there with two years. 612 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: This year this his first year. 613 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: The Bears is their first year. The Panthers coach, I 614 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: think this is second year. 615 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, first year for the Patriots. 616 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: Man, I'm telling you the league is doing exactly what 617 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: they want to do. And you realize that leadership is 618 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: real in the league when you bring the right leadership 619 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: in because it's not it's not a big difference between players. 620 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: You have some exceptional players. You have those ones who 621 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: just stand out of butt and beyond everybody, but they're 622 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: few and formals between when you build the right culture 623 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: and the right team. And I can't name you one 624 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: other player on the Panthers, not one on Bears. I 625 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: can tell you about Caleb Williams because when he threw 626 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: that ball and put his hands in his hand, warm 627 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: and while the balls in the air over time. 628 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was the coolest thing I've ever seen 629 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: that was against the package. 630 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: Yet when he threw that ball and he banned up 631 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: and put his hands in his pocket, it was just 632 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: standing like. 633 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: Leaning back the angle of the camera. Man, it was 634 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: just my TV. 635 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: But I was like, that is and then the guy 636 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: when he caught it, I was like, that is the 637 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: coolest ending for. 638 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: Me, besides when we beat the Giants with thirty freaking 639 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: points in the quarter. 640 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: Other than that, Yeah, that was the coolest ending I've 641 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: ever seen, Like witnessed. 642 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: It was cold. 643 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: It was definitely cold, and I just loved it and 644 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: I love I think the playoffs are gonna be exciting 645 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: this year. 646 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: What five minutes into your show last night before you 647 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: went full wet blanket on the broncos It was yeah, 648 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: well great, we called you out. 649 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: He did for one line, but I. 650 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: Meant blanket, all right, Oh my god, on it great? 651 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: Great? 652 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 4: Doesn't miss death taxes and Greton I'm missing what's coming. 653 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: Up on your show tonight? Step Radio? Wow? Yeah uh wait, 654 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: we got to Steve coming in first hour. That's a 655 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: lot of fun. That be cool. 656 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 5: Well, he always we did have a texture here that 657 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 5: wanted to come and I know we we got to 658 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 5: make our picks nine eight three three three three. The 659 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 5: reason why national people are saying the Broncos are a fraud, 660 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 5: not the team the coach running his mouth in preseason 661 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 5: talking about Super Bowl. 662 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, if they lose the. 663 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 5: Divisional game or AFC Championship game, then they will be 664 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 5: called frauds. 665 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: Come on, I don't know. I I mean, Sean Sean 666 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: did put. 667 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 5: It out there that and that did raise the expectations 668 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 5: I think of fans, but that I don't think that 669 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 5: has anything to do with how some national people view 670 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 5: this team. 671 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: I liked that Sean Payton put that out there. You 672 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: set the standard at Super Bowl when you put that. 673 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 4: What I didn't like was the Nate Hackett stuff I 674 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: was the worst coach ever and then going out and 675 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: losing to him. 676 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah that was bad. 677 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: But you you want you want your coach to have 678 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: that confidence. And my thing is if my coach said anything, 679 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: we got to back them up. So was that his 680 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: team so far as he has bagged it up, and 681 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 3: we'll we'll we'll see, you know, we'll see with this group, 682 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: completely different playoff experience compared. 683 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: To last year going on the road. 684 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: If Buffalo gets a good team, probably one of the 685 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: top quarterbacks they've played in the last five years, and 686 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: at the same time, we get to do it at home. 687 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: Like I said, the scenario to me, it's a nice 688 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 3: It ain't gonna ever be smooth, but it's the best 689 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: we could ever ask. 690 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: For, no doubt. Right now. Gotta take advantage of what 691 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: you have, right it ain't gonna probably be the same. 692 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: I guarantee they're gonna be the same next year. 693 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 4: When we talked about it a bit earlier, and we'll 694 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 4: get to show me the money is. We're not calling 695 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: Detroit season last year a fraud season. They lost their 696 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 4: one seed. They lost to a very hot Washington Commanders team. 697 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 4: I thought they had a health of season. They were 698 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 4: one of the best teams. They were a fifteen win team. Yep, 699 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: they lost in the roll lost in the division round. 700 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: As the one season here, they're not even in the 701 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: playoffs right right now, and everybody had them high hopes 702 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: on them for this year, getting to the playoff, getting 703 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: into the super Bowl. 704 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: They were one of the favorite teams going into the season. 705 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: Rod, appreciate you, brother, We appreciate you coming in studio. 706 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: We'll see you next Tuesday. 707 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: If Blanket is here, I'm coming the PC too next