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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since he three sixty about Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: it's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen Birdie, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't really know what it is on

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Speaker 2: this rainy, dreary Thursday afternoon, but I am feeling good

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Speaker 2: and hungry right now.

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Speaker 3: Where do you stand on the Foo Fighters.

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Speaker 4: Mid?

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Speaker 3: Do you have any thoughts on the food Fighters Mid?

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Speaker 3: Because you know, I kind of got into the studio

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Speaker 3: a little bit later than normal day.

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Speaker 2: By the way, welcome in, since he three sixty ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: My guy Liam was using this studio working feverishly on

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Speaker 3: some very high level, important private projects. Oh and he

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Speaker 3: I walk in and he has blaring on YouTube a

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Speaker 3: Foo Fighters playlist.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, this helps me like focus,

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Speaker 3: This is like my thing to help me love talking

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Speaker 3: like my hero Foo Fighters my hero. And then there

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Speaker 3: was ever long is a good one? Best of you

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Speaker 3: is what's currently on right now? I haven't had time

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Speaker 3: to you change it. I mean I've never I mean,

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Speaker 3: are you a big food fighters. I'm not a h

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Speaker 3: I love the Foo Fighters.

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Speaker 4: I've not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever met someone that was like, gosh,

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Speaker 2: did you hear the Foo Fighters latest song?

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Speaker 3: Right? I never met someone It's like, I need to focus.

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Speaker 3: Let me turn on the Fighters.

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Speaker 2: It's the occasional like if I'm on a station and

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Speaker 2: it comes on, maybe I won't turn a certain song,

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Speaker 2: but I'm never seeking the Fighters catch.

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Speaker 3: You on at the right time. You know, there goes

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Speaker 3: mine right right.

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Speaker 4: Right right.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like, is that a group that you're like, Man,

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Speaker 2: I got to make it a point to see them live.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: They are one of the many groups we have photos

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Speaker 3: framed photos of around the IE offices.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have not.

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Speaker 3: Been to another iHeart place since they redid most of

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Speaker 3: them around the country. Do we think every place has

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Speaker 3: the same pictures mass produced? That's a good question. Do

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Speaker 3: you think any of their places have pictures of ours?

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Speaker 3: Are old though, like the that are on air? No, no, no, no, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Tell you I'm invited to it. And this is how

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Speaker 2: this is a Thursday. But we're going to just start

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Speaker 2: this way. The new song from Bruno Mars. Now, Bruno

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Speaker 2: Mars just put out an album right now? You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about a guy that I will throw some

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Speaker 2: Bruno Mars on from.

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Speaker 4: Time to time?

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Speaker 3: Is this right? I didn't know this about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I just think he's a he's a performer.

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Speaker 2: He's got a new one called I Just Might. I

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Speaker 2: beled that at least once a day right now? Okay, Now,

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Speaker 2: Bruno is a guy that I did look and say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: where's his tour at. I think he'd be good to

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Speaker 2: see live because he is more of a performer, he's

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Speaker 2: a showman. I think the concert would be nice. He's

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Speaker 2: in Columbus in May.

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Speaker 3: What what's the song about? I Just Might? What's that about?

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Speaker 2: It's essentially he comes across a very pretty girl. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Well he's at a maybe an establishment or a club

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Speaker 2: or something like that, and he's singing about how much

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Speaker 2: of a shame it would be if this pretty girl

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Speaker 2: couldn't dance, right, So he wants to see her on

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Speaker 2: the dance floor, and if she can dance to match

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Speaker 2: the looks, then he just might make her his baby.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so there it is. I just got a

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Speaker 3: good vibe. Okay, this is ESPs. Look at that fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty Jad shotted Frizz there is. You're listen to the

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Speaker 3: new Brudo Mars I just might. It's just got a

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Speaker 3: good like that's a good vibe, right. I admit I

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Speaker 2: Now, a lot of them are like slow love songs.

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Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that, but that one I think it

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: You know who's hotter in the surface of the sun

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Speaker 3: right now of the musical industry is Olivia Dean. Oh

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Speaker 3: you know anything about Olivia Dean?

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Speaker 3: Okay, She's got a little bit of that tear in

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Speaker 3: your beard type of music. She's like the next rising

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Speaker 3: pop star. Tier in the beer across. Yeah, I used

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Speaker 3: music because she can't afford that tier in your beer

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Speaker 3: bleep mmm and ever since then. That's okay, that's one

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Speaker 3: of my ways to describe music as tier in your beer,

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Speaker 3: Tier in the beer. All right, you want to restart

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Speaker 3: the show. No, I think we just go from here.

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Speaker 3: Do we want to There there any other music we want

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's listen, it's the off season. It's there

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Speaker 3: is no such thing. And we've certainly got I want

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Speaker 3: to get in trouble for playing music. We've certainly got

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Speaker 3: a lot that we can get to today. You want

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Speaker 3: to talk about it? How about the stacked show that

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Speaker 3: is today? How about in just a few moments twelve twenty,

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Speaker 3: the head ball coach of the University of Cincinnati football program,

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Speaker 3: Scott Sadderfield, give you a thousand dollars if you ask

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Speaker 3: Scott Saderfield what his favorite band Ooh, his favorite song is. Actually,

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Speaker 3: that would be a great question to ask him. What

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Speaker 3: do you listen to before games?

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Speaker 3: What gets you pumped up?

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Speaker 4: Coach? SAT's in today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we started off with a question like

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Speaker 3: that really into a coach. It's you know, off season,

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Speaker 3: you're watching a lot of film.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got music on the back wind.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we know you listen to Sincy three sixty.

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Speaker 3: But and when you're not listening to us, what do

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Speaker 3: love to know that about Scott Sadurfield. I'm assume he's

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Speaker 3: gonna go back to his Appalachian standaze and say Luke

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Speaker 3: Comb the Appalachia because he feels like a Luke colmbs

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Speaker 3: guy to me, that's my guess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we should ask coach that I like this,

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Speaker 2: We'll dive in to that and more in a few

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Speaker 2: minutes with coach Scott Saderfield. How about the head the

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Speaker 2: head basketball coach of a team looking to make history

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night and they just happen to have to do

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Speaker 2: it in Athens, Ohio, Jake d Oh, I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: thirty RedHawks out of Miami. There, head basketball coach Travis

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Speaker 2: Steele scheduled to be on the program in studio today.

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Speaker 2: Let's go Keegan so much he came back back twice.

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Speaker 2: Kegan nickoson Bearcat Journal dot com. Did you see what

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Speaker 2: I saw last night? I know you did because I

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Speaker 2: sent it to you.

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Speaker 3: What did you?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about Joe Lenardi creeping up the bracket, buddy.

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Speaker 2: No longer, no, no, no, no longer. Are the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: on that next four out line?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Now Bearcats are on the first four out line and

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Speaker 2: don't look now New Mexico lost late last night, so

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Speaker 2: that's another team that'll be dropping. So Keegan nickoson Bearcat

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Speaker 2: Journal dot com show me the path today, Keegan, show

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Speaker 2: me the way, show me the way to the NCAA tournament,

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Speaker 2: maybe to the first four and Dayton k nickoson Bearcat

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Speaker 2: Jeneral dot com will do that at two o'clock today.

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Speaker 2: And looking forward to this one. I look forward every

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Speaker 2: week Austin to talk to our guy Bob Manjing. But

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Speaker 2: after everything that happened with Hunter Green yesterday, one of

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Speaker 2: the first things you and I talked about today, we

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Speaker 2: still have questions. We've still got questions about Hunter Green

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Speaker 2: and what's going on, and maybe Bob man Jean from

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Speaker 2: the University of Cincinnati and Novacare can help sort that

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Speaker 2: out with us today. No Mo wager he's in goodyear.

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Speaker 2: No Mo, I'm assuming Chad Brendle this afternoon. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't look at it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't look.

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Speaker 3: I just try to be where my feet are, you know, wow,

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Speaker 3: b control where controllables be, where the feed are asked.

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Speaker 3: This is another question for coach sat what's his favorite

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Speaker 3: like saying, yeah, what's what's the thing he says the most.

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Speaker 3: Look that coaching trope that he uses those I like this,

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Speaker 2: Uh I will we will in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: Ask coach Sadderfield what he's listening to when he's got

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Speaker 3: You know, if Coach Sat would ever do like a

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Speaker 3: see they've had some new coaches come in. Here's what's

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Speaker 3: the new decordinator? What's his forty time? I like this,

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Speaker 3: what's Coach SAT's forty time? These are the questions people

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Speaker 2: You get him today? Yeah, they'll get him. Where's Joe

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Speaker 2: Lenardi at today?

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Speaker 3: Doesn't he does? He like even see the sun?

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Speaker 2: He actually mid February until he tweeted last night that

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Speaker 3: To be honest, we don't really see it much either.

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Speaker 2: The Bristol Bunker right is where Leonardi's at. Right now,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about his latest projections NFL A little bit

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Speaker 2: of a free agency primer and Austin death taxes.

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Speaker 3: Graham Ashcraft walking the first battery faced Graham Ashcraft walking

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Speaker 3: a batter Red's made of Trade yesterday. I think it

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Speaker 3: has something to do with the fact that Graham Ashcraft's

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Speaker 3: so good. Oh, you know the Reds. Yesterday the Reds

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Speaker 3: played the Cuban national team, which I think was the

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Speaker 3: worst baseball team I've ever seen. This game, close game,

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Speaker 3: nineteen to two, up two runs. You know who gave

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Speaker 3: get his spots stolen by tj Antone and Kyle Nicholas.

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Speaker 3: Who has two first names? And does he have a

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Speaker 3: go to or not? Yeah, Kyle Nicholas, it's a great question.

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Speaker 3: It's a question she can't stop looking at.

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Speaker 2: Can we get clarity from the Reds or from Kyle?

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Speaker 3: I sent a picture to my group chat last night.

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Speaker 3: I said, Uh, does this guy have a go t?

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Speaker 3: Yes or no? Results were no is he? I said,

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Speaker 3: God something, He's got two first names and just some

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Speaker 3: hair on his face. As I mentioned, death taxes.

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Speaker 2: Graham Ashcraft walking the first batter in the NKU North.

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Speaker 3: When the Horizon Basketball Tournament comes around. You know what,

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Speaker 3: I turned the game on last night. I had had

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Speaker 3: had a prior engagement and I flip it on and

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Speaker 3: the Norse are up seven. Within thirty seconds they're tied,

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Speaker 3: and I almost turned it back off just because I'm

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Speaker 3: a team player, but I believe in Darren Horne well.

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Speaker 4: Away.

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Speaker 2: They win eighty five, eighty four and now Austin. It

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Speaker 2: sets up a big one Sunday, March eighth in Indianapolis, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky against the fighting gott Leaves from Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Of course Austin playing with a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, thank you for your service the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: And it was at that moment I knew, Okay, this

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Speaker 3: You would talk about that Darnell Mooney. That dude can

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Speaker 2: We'll get into more of us, darnas Darnell Mooney, and

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Speaker 3: We don't have a bones, we don't have absling tight

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Speaker 2: Yep, just absolute gold from lou Holtz and Mark Man.

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Speaker 3: Whatever happened to Mark May, that's a good question. You

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Hey, how are we going? Tony just got sent this

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Speaker 5: Right now, we're getting ready to go. Got a little

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Speaker 2: I can guarantee you didn't get this to ask this

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Speaker 5: down at Georgia Southern, who I thought had a.

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00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 6: Couple of really good years.

441
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 5: I think the big thing is just getting them caught

442
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 5: up on terminology. You know, if you've played football, you've

443
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 5: you know, you've phoned vertical routes, you've phoned curls. You know,

444
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 5: you've phone corners and those type of things. So we says,

445
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 5: getting them up on terminology, how we do things, how

446
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 5: we read it out, you know. I think that's that's

447
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 5: what spring ball is gonna be all about. Those guys

448
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 5: have been throwing, you know this winter, you know, his

449
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 5: first winter. We've had this nice facility here to be

450
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 5: able to you know, when it's been cold outside, to

451
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 5: go in this indoor and throw and let those guys

452
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 5: you know, learn each other and you know what makes

453
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 5: them tick and that type of thing. So I think

454
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 5: they've been working well with each other. It's it's gonna

455
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 5: be fun to watch them and spring practice and see

456
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 5: how you know, how much they jailed and how much

457
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 5: they they're able to mess with each other offensively.

458
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: You also lose a couple of guys up front on

459
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 2: the offensive line. But I think as you sit here today,

460
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: probably got to be confident in what you have coming

461
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: back on the offensive line. How much of a luxury

462
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: is that to retain those guys and get guys returning

463
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 2: on what was a strength last year and now can

464
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: look to be a strength this year up front?

465
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was a big time springs for

466
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 5: us last year. And you know, the leadership those guys

467
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 5: brought for our football team was tremendous. And you know,

468
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 5: some really good guys and I think you know, being

469
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 5: able to get you know, Evan Tannas are all back,

470
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 5: Joe Cotton, Taran Taio. I mean, those are big time leaders.

471
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 5: They were part of that offensive line last year that

472
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 5: was one of the best in the country, and you know,

473
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 5: and they got rewarded. I mean there's some All Americans

474
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 5: in that those three names that I just been some ball,

475
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 5: big twelve performers. So to get those guys back, they're

476
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 5: leaders of our offense right now, kind of setting the tone,

477
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 5: you know, and then there'll be some more guys that's

478
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 5: been on our team and Xaviel's those whiskeys. Who's who's

479
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 5: the guy who played for us a lot last year?

480
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 5: He'll he'll be in the mix now, Judaya Malon will

481
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 5: be in the mix now, Nolan. So several guys up

482
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 5: front that will be in the mix. Man, these guys

483
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 5: have been developing, and I'm excited about seeing them play

484
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 5: this spring. Is gonna be huge for them to see,

485
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 5: all right, who's our seven or eight linemen that they're

486
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 5: gonna be able to try out there and help us

487
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 5: win next year. And we got some really good candidates there,

488
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 5: and I'm just, you know, pleased with that bunch right there.

489
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 5: Cold Carl has something really good job with that.

490
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 2: Crew, replacing a guy in Joe Royer and then replacing

491
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: guys in Caudwell and Allen Cyrus. Allen just ties and

492
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: gets to the school record and touchdown catches. Jeff Cadwell

493
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: absolutely shined at the Combine. Todd McShay said it was

494
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: the most impressive wide receiver workout he's seen in quite

495
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: some time. You'll lose those guys, You'll lose another Combine

496
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: guy and Joe Royer, who's going to play in the

497
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: National Football League. How do you go about trying to

498
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: replace the production that you have at wide receiver.

499
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we got some new guys coming in here.

500
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 5: You know, it's a new bunch. These guys have been

501
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 5: here since January and it's been fun to watch them.

502
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 5: They've been developing in the weight room. But also, as

503
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 5: I mentioned earlier, just you know, they've been out throwing

504
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 5: and catching with their quarterbacks, and so you're able to

505
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 5: get to get those guys get out there and see

506
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 5: what they can do.

507
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 7: I do.

508
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 5: I do think we got some really good ones that

509
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 5: have come in, you know that'll be able to make

510
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 5: plays for us. Lorenzo Center, I think it's gonna be

511
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 5: a really good player, you know, probably play a little

512
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 5: bit of outside and inside. David Gibson's transferring in from Oklahoma,

513
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 5: who's a who's a big guy on the outside as well.

514
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: That will give us, uh, you know, a couple of

515
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 5: good outside type receivers. And you know, Isaiah Johnson's back.

516
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he's kind of backed up Cyrus

517
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 5: last year, but he made some big plays for us.

518
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 5: Now he's had a really good winner. I think he's

519
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 5: got potential to be outstanding. Malachi Henry is the guy

520
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 5: that we brought in from a small school Central Arkansas.

521
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 5: And but he's a good player. Man. He had sixty

522
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 5: nine catches almost nine on the yards last year. He's

523
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 5: a lot faster than I thought he would be, so,

524
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 5: but he can play inside and outside. And then Kate Woolford,

525
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 5: you know, a third team All Mac player from Kent

526
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 5: State who averaged about twenty seven yards per catch. I

527
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 5: didn't realize he can roll. Now he can go, and

528
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 5: and he's another guy he plays hard every every time

529
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 5: he's out on the field. So you know, we got

530
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 5: certainly got some good targets out there. As we go

531
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 5: through spring, we're gonna figure out what they can can't do,

532
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 5: and you know, obviously ask him to do the things

533
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 5: they can do as we to the fall. I think

534
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 5: that's the fun part of when you've got a new team.

535
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 5: Now say in the spring, man, what can these guys do?

536
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 8: What?

537
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 7: What?

538
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 5: What are we going to be excited about when we

539
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 5: hit to the fall? And those are the things we've

540
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 5: got to work out over the next fifteen practices.

541
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next question. Springball today, I'm

542
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 2: guessing looks very different than when I played. And and

543
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: how you've approached it as a coach in years past.

544
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: How different is it to go from what springball used

545
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: to look like to now here You got all these

546
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: new guys kind of melting together. You got to see

547
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: what works with who and how much of an offense

548
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: you can install in things like that. How different is

549
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: just the process of springball now than it used to be?

550
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 5: I mean it's completely different. I mean literally completely different.

551
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 5: You know, back when I played, you played, You know,

552
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 5: all you had in the spring was the guys that

553
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: were coming back off the team from the fall, you know,

554
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 5: so you just kind of pick up where you left

555
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 5: off in the fall. There a lot of those guys

556
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 5: were on the scout team, you know, and you you

557
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 5: know and you and that's your team you have. But

558
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 5: now we got twenty two brand new transfers from other colleges.

559
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: You got fourteen brand new high school play I miss,

560
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 5: thirty six brand new players, and a lot of these

561
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 5: guys are gonna play. I mean they're gonna be your

562
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 5: guys for the fall. So from the time they've gotten

563
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 5: on campus in January, like we've been obviously meeting with them,

564
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 5: putting in the offense, putting in the defense, and the

565
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 5: special teams just to give us a chance when we

566
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 5: start springing practice, which is next Monday. So at this point,

567
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 5: these guys they know terminology for you know, a couple

568
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 5: of days of installs. So now you're going out there

569
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 5: and really just trying to find out what they can do,

570
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 5: Like defensively, like we've got players that can play multiple positions.

571
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 5: We don't know what's gonna be their best position as

572
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 5: we sit here today, but as we go through spring practice,

573
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 5: we'll we'll tweak, We'll let them play this position, we'll

574
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 5: let them put another position, find the best position. You know.

575
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 5: It's almost like, you know, it's almost like a sprint,

576
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: like we're trying to sprint right now. They don't. You

577
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 5: don't have as much time, Like we got to get

578
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 5: these guys coached up, figure out what they can do

579
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 5: over the next six months as fast as we can

580
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 5: before we you know, open up our season against Boston College.

581
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 5: It's way different in a way it used to be

582
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: in the past. And you know, but at the same time,

583
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: it's exciting too, Like I mean, as coaches, like we're

584
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 5: we're really anxious about getting on the field to see

585
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: what these guys can do and start competing against each other.

586
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: You don't get the opportunity to really talk about special

587
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: teams unless things go wrong. That's just kind of the

588
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: nature of how things are.

589
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: Your guys.

590
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: Special teams unit became a legitimate weapon last year and

591
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: you bring the core of that back. How unique is

592
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: that and how much of a weapon does that become

593
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: when you're trying to implement different things on offense and defense.

594
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: To know what you got on the special team side

595
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: of things.

596
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's an awesome to be able to

597
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 5: bring coach Pascal back. You know, we hired him last

598
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 5: summer and was a great addition to our staff to really,

599
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 5: you know, really hone in on special teams and do

600
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 5: some great things. But being able to have those guys back,

601
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 5: you know, when you think about our plunter, Max Fletcher

602
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 5: was one of the best punters out there in the

603
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 5: country last year, was an All Big twelve performer. When

604
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 5: Stephen russ Ningk was a guy who man up in

605
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 5: the BYU game. He didn't hardly miss any field goal

606
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 5: for two years. And so he's coming back a confident player.

607
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 5: You got you long snapper back, you know, so and

608
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 5: then we're adding a lot of these pieces that will

609
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 5: be on special teams too, you know, with these defensive

610
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 5: guys and some of the offensive guys that we brought in,

611
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 5: that's a huge part of our team. It helped us

612
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 5: win a lot of games last year, and it's going

613
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 5: to help us win games this year. You know, as

614
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: we talked about so much in the past, it's just, man,

615
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: the margins are so tight. Now you got to find

616
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 5: some little small ways to be better than your opponent.

617
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: And for us, we spend a lot of time on

618
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: our special teams of trying to find ways to get

619
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 5: yards flip the field. Max does a great job of

620
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 5: penning opponents, you know, down inside the ten yard line.

621
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 5: He takes great pride in that. You know, these guys

622
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 5: are hard workers and you know this off season as well,

623
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: just like the rest of the skill guys. So they're

624
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 5: integral part of our team. And it's exciting to have

625
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 5: these guys back. They because we know what they can

626
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: do and they can be some of the best in

627
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 5: the country, and we expect them to play that way

628
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: in order for us to compete for a big Twelvemanship.

629
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: Coach, before we let you go last year, you mentioned

630
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: the margins being so small. Last year, you guys climb

631
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: from your previous win total all the way up to seven.

632
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: You get to a bowl game, you kind of cross

633
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: that off the list. As you guys get into these

634
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: meetings now in the early spring and you start to

635
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: look to fall, what are the biggest jumps you can

636
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: take to compete now for a big twelve championship Because

637
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: we've seen that with teams now in this league that

638
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: you can turn it over in a year and be

639
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: right there at the top. So what are those few

640
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: things you're looking to improve on to cut down that

641
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: margin and be competing for championships this year?

642
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely, I think you know, obviously, start out grade

643
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 5: seven and one. We're top twenty team for over a

644
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: month there and that was exciting. Just did not finish well,

645
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: and that's the thing that we got to do. We

646
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 5: got to finish and the things that we're going to

647
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: emphasize and look for. I think number one is a

648
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: turnover margin. Offensively, we did a great job of taking

649
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 5: care of the football, we did not create enough turnovers

650
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 5: and so you know, defensively, we've got to create turnovers

651
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 5: this year. That's a huge emphasis for us, and I'm

652
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 5: gonna talk about it every day in spring practice, like

653
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: turnover margin. Every single day. We're gonna we're gonna talk

654
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 5: about it in the in the team meeting and and

655
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Speaker 5: you know, how can we do that take care of

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Speaker 5: the ball, but then on the other side, you know,

657
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Speaker 5: take the ball away. And then the other thing I

658
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Speaker 5: think is explosives. We go back and look at it.

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Speaker 5: When we win the explosives and we were in turnover margin,

660
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Speaker 5: we don't lose. I mean, we're one hundred percent winners.

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Speaker 5: And we got to be able to do that each

662
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Speaker 5: and every week and that and what that is is

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Speaker 5: you know, of yards in the run game, twelve or

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Speaker 5: more yards, that's an explosive. In the passing game, you know,

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Speaker 5: sixteen or more yards is what we're looking for. And

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Speaker 5: if we if we beat the other team in that,

667
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Speaker 5: then we get a great chance to win him. And

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Speaker 5: so defensively not giving up those big plays and offensely

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Speaker 5: trying to get them. So you know, we're gonna focus

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Speaker 5: on those things and doing the little things right, play

671
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Speaker 5: together as a team, and then learn how to finish.

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Speaker 5: We got to be able to finish these games and

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Speaker 5: and you know, come out on top.

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Speaker 2: That is the head football coach for the University of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: Scott Sadderfield. Football spring practices start on March nine. They

676
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Speaker 2: wrap up with the Spring Showcase on April eighteenth at noon.

677
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Speaker 2: Also a very big pro day March twenty fourth, with

678
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Speaker 2: a lot of NFL talent on display. Coach, It's fun

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Speaker 2: to see what you guys are building. Look forward to

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Speaker 2: catching up at springball and getting into the fall. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for your time today. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, appreciate you doing Take care.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, that is Scott Sanderfield, the football coach for

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bearcats, nice enough to join us today Austin.

685
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Speaker 2: It feels like we've done a lot already and we

686
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Speaker 2: still got a lot to go. Keegan Nickoson, Bob Man,

687
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Speaker 2: Jean Travis Steele will join us at one o'clock this afternoon.

688
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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about what happened with the

689
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds yesterday. We talked about Graham Ashcraft in the

690
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Speaker 2: first segment. Let's talk about the rest of what happened

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Speaker 2: on the field and maybe dive into a little more of.

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Speaker 3: The Hunter Green conversation. Next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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Speaker 9: Hey, it's Moeger here to set the records down.

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Speaker 5: At three. We're almost gonna have the fire.

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Speaker 10: Tuck lave it here in postad.

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Speaker 4: Living Lamello Loco.

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Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, in.

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Speaker 2: Boston he did from Nantucket. That was a bomb.

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Speaker 9: I love that guy again, Yes, Chuck Cluck down at

701
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Speaker 9: three Levelo's gonna have the fire from Nantucket here at.

702
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Speaker 3: Pasta from Nantucket, Living Lamello, Locosh. That is so good,

703
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Speaker 3: unbelievable stuff. Hornets are above five hundred. Gosh, here they come.

704
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Speaker 3: Hornets are fun. Man beat down the Celtics in Boston yesterday.

705
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Speaker 3: I just can't get enough of that.

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Speaker 9: Cut down at three Levelo's gonna have.

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Speaker 4: The fire from Nantucket here.

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Speaker 2: At the problem is too like, once you go from Nantucket,

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna sound as good if it just clanks

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Speaker 2: off the rim from Nantucket way off.

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Speaker 3: God, unbelievable, goodness, gracious.

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Speaker 2: It would it would look at this point Austin like

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Speaker 2: Hunter Green will not be the opening day starter for

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds.

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Speaker 3: I would assume not.

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Speaker 4: How about this streak.

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Speaker 2: If Hunter does indeed miss the first game of twenty

718
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Speaker 2: twenty six, it will mark the eleventh consecutive year that

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Speaker 2: the Reds have trotted out a different opening day starter

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Speaker 2: from the previous year.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: The last Reds pitcher to go back to back opening

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Speaker 2: day starts. Any any idea who towed the rubber? I

724
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Speaker 2: would say Johnny Quato, Johnny Cueto, Yeah, would be correct.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've been at every single one of those games, except

727
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Speaker 3: that the two COVID years Frankie Muntas when you couldn't

728
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Speaker 3: Frankie Montas. That one was stolen from Hunter Green by

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Speaker 3: David Bell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I still don't know why David Bell decided to do that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he was trying to send a

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Speaker 3: message to Hunter. I have no idea. So Hunter should

734
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Speaker 3: have been the starter that day. But yeah, I've been

735
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Speaker 3: there for Scott Feldman and others.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Feldman. Well, here's the thing, Austin.

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Speaker 2: If they could just play Cuba now until Hunter Green

738
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Speaker 2: would get healthy, they wouldn't miss Hunter Green.

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's like one of the worst baseball teams I've

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Speaker 3: ever seen. That was hard to watch.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you've not fallen along teams that are participating

742
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Speaker 2: in the World Baseball Classic, they're kind of going around

743
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Speaker 2: spring training and playing against Major League Baseball teams. Cuba

744
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Speaker 2: just so happened to draw the red legs yesterday and

745
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Speaker 2: it did not go well for the Cuban national team.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I did not recognize a lot of the names

747
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Speaker 3: for the Cuban team. I mean, the most recognizable one.

748
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Speaker 3: If you've been around baseball a while, you know Alexei Ramirez.

749
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Speaker 3: Alexi Ramirez last played in the big leagues in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: I'll say it again, I twenty sixteen, I recognized Jon Mancato,

751
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Speaker 3: Joan Moncata, Marcata, Alexi Ramirez. I just want to go

752
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Speaker 3: back to him, for he's forty four years old. Yeah,

753
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Speaker 3: he hasn't played in the big leagues in ten years.

754
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Speaker 3: He's been playing professionally in Cuba over the last ten years.

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Speaker 3: He's forty four years old.

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Speaker 4: He didn't see the ball well yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He didn't. If I were soccer facing Alexi Ramirez, I

758
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: would throw nothing but gas at him, yep, because he

759
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: ain't gonna catch up with that. Joan Mancata also came

760
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Speaker 3: up with the White Sox much like Alexi Ramirez, but

761
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Speaker 3: I think he actually played last year a little bit. Yeah,

762
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Speaker 3: he's more recently has played a lot of these guys

763
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Speaker 3: not a ton of experience in the big leagues. Yesterday,

764
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Speaker 3: they were pretty bad. H nineteen to two was the

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Speaker 3: final nineteen hits to go. Along with those nineteen runs,

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Speaker 3: hits came as follows. Friedel had a pair, McClean had one,

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Speaker 3: Will Benson had two.

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Speaker 9: J J.

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Speaker 2: Blade come on two hits, Sousture two hits. Nathaniel Lowe,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Steer, Garrett Hampsen, Tyler Stevenson all collected a hit.

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Speaker 2: Christian and Carnassi, O and Strand did not.

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Speaker 4: Get a hit. I just wanted to throw that in there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ellie didn't get a hit. Ellie didn't get a hit,

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Speaker 2: but noelve Marte got three. Ellie looked good or Marte

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Speaker 2: looked good. Good, Blake done.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: I posted the quote yesterday from Jeff Brantley about Blake Dunn,

778
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Speaker 3: which is that he looks like an entirely different player,

779
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Speaker 3: and that's a good thing. And to the extent that like,

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Speaker 3: he looks like a big leaguer according to the guys

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Speaker 3: that are there and watching spring training every single day.

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Speaker 3: And I think part of the reason why a guy

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Speaker 3: like you know, Tyler Callahan ends up getting dealt is

784
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Speaker 3: there's not as much room for him if if they

785
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Speaker 3: need him to play the outfield. There's not a lot

786
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Speaker 3: of room for him if he needed to play the infield.

787
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Speaker 3: And part of that is Blake Dunn has played better

788
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Speaker 3: as one of those outfield spots, and so the Reds

789
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Speaker 3: feel like they're better off trading Tyler Callahan. Not the

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Speaker 3: main reason, but part of the equation.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, Uh No, Marte South Stuart JJ bledat all hit

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Speaker 2: home runs for the Cincinnati Reds. You also brought up

793
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Speaker 2: Key Brian Hayes. Yes, very good looking appearances at the place,

794
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Speaker 2: yes so far in spring. Now, I don't put a

795
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Speaker 2: ton of stock into what happened against Cuba, but as

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Speaker 2: a whole on the spring, Kee Brian Hayes hitting five hundred. Yeah,

797
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Speaker 2: you mentioned not knowing what to put into team Cuba.

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Speaker 2: RTT Louder did have his second good outing of the spring.

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Speaker 2: Three innings, two hits, three strikeouts. I feel pretty good

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Speaker 2: about HTT Louder. Yeah, how do you feel about Graham Ashcraft?

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Speaker 2: Just one more time? One inning, two hits, one walk,

802
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Speaker 2: two warned runs. The only runs that crossed the board

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Speaker 2: yesterday for the Cuban team. Oh, by the way, I

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Speaker 2: was I was wrong about Key Brian Hayes. Apparently yesterday

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Speaker 2: doesn't count as a spring training game. It's a World

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Speaker 2: Baseball Classic. Okay, so you're still hitting three hundred for

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Speaker 2: the spring pretty damn good.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I just don't believe in Graham Ashcraft. That's

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Speaker 3: all there is to it. Like the dude has the talent,

810
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Speaker 3: but he it's just it never he's never dominant, he's

811
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Speaker 3: never just. He always makes it hard on himself. He

812
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: always gets himself into trouble. And I don't know that

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Speaker 3: that the Reds necessarily trust him as a guy who

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Speaker 3: is a consistent force in the back end of the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: They don't trust him like they trust Tony Santian. They

816
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Speaker 3: don't trust him like they trust Emiliopa. You can't be

817
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Speaker 3: trusted if you're going to come in and put someone

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Speaker 3: on base. They went exactly, They went and got Kyle

819
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Speaker 3: Nicholas for the reason that they need beef in the

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Speaker 3: back of that bullpen. Nick Krawl was asked about it

821
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Speaker 3: earlier this morning, about the trades for Kyle Nicholas. Quote,

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Speaker 3: We had worked around it for a while. It was

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Speaker 3: something we were able to finish yesterday. It was a

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Speaker 3: guy we can get who's a power arm and has

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Speaker 3: a chance to pitch in the back of the bull

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Speaker 3: and we felt it was a move we had to

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Speaker 3: make for now and the future. I also go back

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Speaker 3: to what our buddy Joe Danaman has said several times

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Speaker 3: over the course of the offseason coming into this year,

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Speaker 3: is that he said he would always know when the

831
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Speaker 3: Reds felt like they were ready to compete when they

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Speaker 3: invested in the bullpen. This is another investment into that bullpen.

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Speaker 2: Well Well said today they got a three o'clock tilt.

834
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Speaker 2: I would imagine Austin this would be a preview for

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Speaker 2: who's going to advance and represent the en All in

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Speaker 2: the World Series issue incredible playoff matchup Dodgers Reds rematch

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Speaker 2: between the Reds of the Goods.

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Speaker 3: Year and a couple of former Reds playing for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: What if I told you tone that Nicki Longballs is

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Speaker 3: a Los Angeles Dodger.

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Speaker 11: Wow?

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Speaker 3: And by that I mean Nick Sinzel Unreal, one of

843
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 3: my favorite Reds of all time. You know who else

844
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Speaker 3: is having a really good spring for the Dodgers player

845
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Speaker 3: we talked about a lot and is going to make

846
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Speaker 3: this ball club. Santiago Espinalal Dave Roberts asked earlier this morning,

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Speaker 3: the Dodger skipper about Santiago Espinol says, it's hard to

848
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Speaker 3: envision a scenario in which he doesn't make the team.

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Speaker 3: That's how good Espinol has been. And I think also

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Speaker 3: just part of the dynamics of the Dodgers' roster at

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Speaker 3: the moment. But still good for Santiago. Well well done,

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Speaker 3: Santiago Espinol. We got to give him sell. We'll combined

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Speaker 3: to go six for eight days, take a break, six

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Speaker 3: hits or whatever.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll talk a little bit about how

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Speaker 2: they will play it today in goodyear. Get maybe a lineup,

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Speaker 2: Oh you want it to you're telling me you want

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Speaker 2: to line up because yeah, before we get to our

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Speaker 2: number two, I think that'd be fair. While we got

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Speaker 2: Travis Steele to kick off hour two. That's next on

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Speaker 2: the SBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. It's since he

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Speaker 2: three to.

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Speaker 4: Sixty, welcome back, since he three six.

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Speaker 2: It's the ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports station of

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Speaker 2: service here and I renumber one of our friends at

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Speaker 2: Skyline Chile. Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, it's always

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Speaker 2: Skyline time.

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Speaker 3: Austin Howell. The Reds line it up today in Goodyear, Arizona.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you asked Tom. Through Reds are in good

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: Year taking on the Los Angeles Dodgers. It's a three

871
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: to ZH five first pitch for the old Red Legs today.

872
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: Here's how they'll line them up. Leading off in center

873
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: field TJ. Friedel, the second batter is once again the

874
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 3: second baseman, Matt McLean. Ellie Da La Cruz will bat

875
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: third and play shortstop today. The cleanup hitter is the

876
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: d H Nathaniel Lowe. Spencer steerbats fifth. He's the first baseman.

877
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: The sixth batter is left fielder Will Benson batting seventh

878
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: and in right fielder in right field, rightfielder spring training

879
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: for everybody, JJ Bledet. The eighth batter is third baseman

880
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: Christian Incarnassion Strand oh Ces. The ninth batter is catcher

881
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: Jose Trevigno, and the picture today on the bump is

882
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: Jose Franco Franco Franco. However you want to say it,

883
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: that's how the Reds you lined up once more for

884
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: Cincinnati against Los Angeles. It's freedom, McLean de la Cruz,

885
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: low Steer, Benson, Blede, Incarnassi and Strand Trevino with Franco.

886
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 12: On the mound.

887
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: Franco for the Reds. Yes, Fronco for the Reds. A

888
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: rare television game for the Reds today, that's right. So

889
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: you can watch them while you listen to Chad Brindle.

890
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: There we go, or you can listen to them while

891
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 3: you watch Chad Brindle.

892
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: There you go.

893
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: I think we'll just let you in if you want

894
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: to just come in and watch Chad.

895
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: Come on in a couple of phone calls here quickly

896
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: if we can, before we get to Travis deal, Mike,

897
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: what's going on?

898
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 12: Hey, what's up?

899
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: What's up?

900
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 12: Talk to football for a minute. But astin Santiago. I

901
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 12: heard an interview with him last night in La and

902
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 12: he is absolutely stoked to be with the Dodgers. He

903
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 12: the humble guy, but he's he's just so excited. He says,

904
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 12: this is as excited as he's been in his career.

905
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 12: Great pick up for the Dodgers. Red you blew it

906
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 12: by one of the top five utilities infielders in baseball.

907
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 5: Go you moron.

908
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 3: He was horrible last year, Mike, what are you talking about?

909
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 12: No, this guy can play man. You know the year

910
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 12: before he was very effective. And we're talking about guys

911
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 12: off the bench.

912
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 13: Now I'm not.

913
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 12: You don't have bench guys sitting three hundred, well know that.

914
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 12: But you throw esban All in there with his versatility,

915
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 12: with Keik and Tommy Edmonds and Enrique Hernandez and Miguel Rojas,

916
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 12: all them guys. And I would love to see Denzel

917
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 12: make the team because I always felt sorry for him

918
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 12: because he's always getting hurt, the poor guy. So I

919
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 12: hope he makes it and has a good year for

920
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 12: the Dodgers this year. As far as football goes, did

921
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 12: the Rams make a beautiful move there or what?

922
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

923
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 12: Picking up?

924
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked to yesterday. They just don't.

925
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: They don't value that first round pick, and when they

926
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: do value it, they go get a guy like Jared Verse.

927
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: So they hit on it when they when they keep

928
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 2: the pick. But they've shown the ability and the idea

929
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: more times than not that they don't have to take

930
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: that pick, that they can get a proven player. And

931
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: you see what they went and did with with McDuffie.

932
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: I believe their Super Bowl odds have now increased. I

933
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: think they're now the favorites to win the Super Bowl.

934
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 12: Yeah, well you figure now they still they didn't give

935
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 12: up their first first round pick. No, they're too smart

936
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 12: for that. They get up their twenty ninth the first

937
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 12: round pick and keep their fifteenth first round pick and

938
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 12: they still got the second round, third round, fourth round picks. Unbelievable.

939
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 12: These got this less sneed. I really believe he's the

940
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 12: most under publicized GM in the NFL. I really do,

941
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 12: because you hear about the other guys. Sure, the guy

942
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 12: in Philly, the guy in Tampa, and they're good, but

943
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 12: this guy's special. And I don't know how much the

944
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 12: day has to do with it. But but you know,

945
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 12: the trades i'd like to see. There's like five trades

946
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 12: that can you tell me what you guys think. I

947
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 12: don't know how viable they are, but I think Matt

948
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 12: Jones would be good in Miami and and and the

949
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 12: Niners could maybe get a third this year and a

950
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 12: four and a third next year for Matt Jones. What

951
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 12: do you think about that?

952
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

953
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: I think Mac did enough this year. I don't know

954
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: if he's a starter for a full season, but I

955
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 2: think he's certainly a viable option that a team would value.

956
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 3: I think San Francisco values him a lot, especially as

957
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: much as Party has been hurt. I mean we've seen

958
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: that kind of with the Burrow thing of like valuing Flacco,

959
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: and obviously they overvalued Jake Jake Browning a little bit,

960
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: but as much as Perdy has been hurt. I bet

961
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: the asking price from San Francisco or a step one.

962
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 12: That's what I was. You know, again, I don't know

963
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 12: what I'm talking about. I'm just thinking about things. The

964
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 12: other one I was thinking was do you think A. J.

965
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 12: Brown's going to go to ball flow? And I thought

966
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 12: the Eagles could conceivably ask for a second rounder this year.

967
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: Right, I don't think he's not gonna end up in Buffalo, right,

968
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: Austin they got they made a move today.

969
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bills made a trade this morning for DJ

970
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: Moore from Chicago, which, according to some people say that

971
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: means they're out of the AJ Brown sweet stakes.

972
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

973
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 12: Well, AJ Brown's kind of weird. Though I'm not a

974
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 12: big DJ Moore guy. I mean, he's starting to get

975
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 12: up during the years a little bit, isn't.

976
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: He Or Yeah, he is.

977
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: He played with Joe Brady previously in Carolina, and I

978
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: mean the Bears got a second round pick for him.

979
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: Good for them. I mean, I feel like they kind

980
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: of stole one from the Bills. But the Bills can't

981
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: draft receivers. They have been able to draft receivers forever,

982
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 3: so you gotta pay a price for one, I guess.

983
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

984
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 12: How about Crosby tit the Eagles for the eagles first

985
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 12: round pick this year and the second round pick Eagles

986
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 12: to the Prosny to the to the Eagles for the

987
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 12: Raiders and the Raiders get their first round pick this

988
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 12: year and their second round pick next year. I'd do it.

989
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Crosby's I think he's going to go somewhere.

990
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: It's it's just now at this point deciphering where and

991
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 2: who's willing to give up the most.

992
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 12: How about Wonnald to Denver and Miami gets Denver's first

993
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 12: round pick this year.

994
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, another wide receipt. I think Wadell just needs a

995
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: new start. I just don't think it worked in Denver

996
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: for him, or I'm sorry, I don't think it worked

997
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: in Miami. But I think when healthy, he's a he's

998
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: a good player and they need it bad.

999
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 12: They need somebody to go with Sutton. They need it

1000
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 12: back up there, yep, cos they need a running back

1001
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 12: to and the last one. I was thinking, this is crazy.

1002
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 12: How about Anthony Richardson to the Vikings and the Colts

1003
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 12: get there? Not much maybe their fifth round pick this year?

1004
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 12: Did that happen?

1005
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: If I'm the Vikings and I got Kevin O'Connell and

1006
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: it's not going to cost you much for the value

1007
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: of what Anthony Richardson was drafted as, I would give

1008
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell a shot to fix that. Oh know, you

1009
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: got a quarterback room of JJ McCarthy and Anthony Richardson.

1010
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not a lot of brain cells in that room.

1011
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

1012
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 12: Yeah no, not a lot of brain cells. But they

1013
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 12: don't have more. I don't even well, they're talking about

1014
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 12: maybe Aaron goes up there, right, but I don't know.

1015
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I'll tell you who the next Viking

1016
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: quarterback is going to be. Kyler Murray.

1017
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 12: Okay, I thought Kyler was going to maybe go to

1018
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 12: write that down.

1019
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: Mike, what if what if Kyler goes back to baseball? Well,

1020
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 3: I thought he's better than Santiago Espinal.

1021
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 12: Oh you.

1022
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: Thanks Mike, Mike, thank you. Man good, I have a

1023
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: good one.

1024
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: All right.

1025
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: We got to run because we got Travis Steele waiting

1026
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: to stop buy and see us in studio. We'll get

1027
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: more phone calls as we go along. At the end

1028
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: of our two and into our number three five one, three, seven,

1029
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: four nine fifteen thirty, the head basketball coach of Miami

1030
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: joins us next looking to go thirty one and O

1031
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: tomorrow night on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1032
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 14: Till U s k Y Cincinnati. Make us the number

1033
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 14: one pre set on your car radio and on the

1034
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 14: free new and improved iHeartRadio app. Free never sounded so good.

1035
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 14: ESPN fifteen thirty.

1036
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 10: Power Slap eighteen.

1037
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati.

1038
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1039
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: Welcome back since three sixty.

1040
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 12: We're rolling along.

1041
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station on a Thursday afternoon.

1042
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 2: I say Thursday because tomorrow evening, I can't even begin

1043
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: to imagine the atmosphere that is going to happen in Athens, Ohio,

1044
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 2: the Miami RedHawks. It's no longer Miami of Ohio. They

1045
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: are the true Miami here when we talk about college basketball.

1046
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: They travel to Athens, Ohio to take on OU. They

1047
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: look to complete a perfect regular season ahead of the

1048
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: MAC Tournament, and kind enough with his time to join

1049
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: us today, I said, coach, Travis Steel, coach, what's going on?

1050
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 4: Nothing? I appreciate you having me on.

1051
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot going on right now.

1052
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a lot going on.

1053
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: I turn on the TV on a daily basis, your guys,

1054
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: athletic directors on a wake up barstool, You guys are

1055
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: national news.

1056
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 4: Every single day.

1057
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: In the back of your mind, you probably got this

1058
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: whole Speedo thing still plastered down. And on top of

1059
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: what's going on in the court, you're now dealing with

1060
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: a daughter at home who was a little disappointed in behavior.

1061
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: So on top of what you're trying to do tomorrow night,

1062
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: a lot of outside circumstances still at play here.

1063
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's been a fun ride. Probably the

1064
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 7: one that was that pulled up my heart the most

1065
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 7: is my daughter. You said when she hit me with daddy,

1066
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 7: you were a bad boy last night and you shoved

1067
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 7: that thing over. You had big feelings Yeah, she's talking

1068
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 7: like a three year old. I was like, okay, yep.

1069
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 7: I was like, you know what, Daddy shouldn't have done

1070
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 7: that should I so.

1071
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: Three going on twenty three. That's my daughter's exactly. But

1072
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: I made up for it.

1073
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 7: We got to you got to get some confetti after

1074
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 7: cutting down the net, uh the other night after our

1075
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 7: Toledo game winning the regular season title.

1076
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: And so now I'm in I'm in a good in

1077
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 4: a good way with her. That feeling.

1078
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: If anyone's ever played basketball at any level, to be

1079
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: able to cut down the nets, it's it's kind of

1080
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: one of the things on that ongoing list of what

1081
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: you want to accomplish.

1082
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: Just talk about your team.

1083
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: The last time you were on the show, you talked

1084
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: about the players that wanted to come back, and they

1085
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: wanted to come back for a reason. And it's not

1086
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: been without adversity at times. It's not been with your

1087
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: your back's not against the wall. But to get to

1088
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: that moment, and I know it's not the ultimate goal

1089
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: of where you guys are at, but to cut down

1090
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: the nets at Mallett Hall had to be an awesome feeling.

1091
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

1092
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 7: Listen, it's hard to win regular season titles. I mean,

1093
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 7: it's it's a marathon. We've been getting everybody's best shot.

1094
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 7: Everywhere we go has been sold out, and we have

1095
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 7: we faced a lot of adversity. I'm sorrow has obviously

1096
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 7: been done for the year and only played one a

1097
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 7: half a conference game, which is incredible because a lot

1098
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 7: of people thought we would dip after we lost him,

1099
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 7: and then Luke Skaljack's out and you know, Trey Perry,

1100
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 7: another low Cincinnati guy, Lakota East guy, really steps up

1101
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 7: on the road force game winner at Western Michigan. But

1102
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 7: our group's unflappable. We don't flinch. It's next man up mentality.

1103
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 7: You know, we have a lot of good players.

1104
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: Where does that come from?

1105
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: Because that's just not something that always can be taught

1106
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: over the course of a practice or film study. But

1107
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: to have a group that you know, okay, we're in adversity,

1108
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: and I think your demeanor at times on the sideline

1109
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: shows that whereas it's not panic, it's all right, we've

1110
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: been here before and you know and have a grasp

1111
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: on who you have. Where does that come from?

1112
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 7: I think it starts probably with me, right, I mean,

1113
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 7: they're gonna look to me and see how I'm reacting.

1114
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 7: Or you know, Luke's out, what is he gonna lose

1115
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 7: his mind?

1116
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? Is he down?

1117
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 7: He is?

1118
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: Has he changed at all?

1119
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 5: Right?

1120
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: And can I stay be very very consistent?

1121
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 7: Competer Souter, who's one of our team captains, Evan Ipsorrow,

1122
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 7: Ian Elmer, Can those guys be ultra consistent in those moments?

1123
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: And they and they are and they just go and

1124
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: we just move right on man.

1125
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 7: And again it's and we don't love losing guys, right,

1126
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 7: So I do want to make that crystal clear, like

1127
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 7: it's it's hard, but it's it's part of it, right,

1128
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 7: It's part of the journey.

1129
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,959
Speaker 2: You mentioned Peter Soonter, who's been phenomenal for you guys,

1130
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: but he exits with the fouling out of the game

1131
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: and you guys are trailing at that time. And I thought,

1132
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: in that moment, you know, going forward, it it kind

1133
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: of showed the most about who your team. You're shorthanded

1134
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: at guard, your your leader, Peter Soonter is out of

1135
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: the game, and yet the play on the court in

1136
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: the mindset, I think that the mentality, you know, the

1137
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: physical side of your team. But I'm sure as a

1138
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: coach it's gratifying to see that mental toughness as well.

1139
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously when Peter filed out, you get like thirty

1140
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 7: seconds sub any guys. Yeah, I probably took our guys

1141
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 7: over and I said, fellows, we can't lose our minds,

1142
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 7: and so we have to just settle in, lock in

1143
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 7: play off at two feet, just be solid with the

1144
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 7: ball at the other end.

1145
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 4: Just do your job. We'll be fine.

1146
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 7: And our guys, man just are so calm and I

1147
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 7: Olmar Atlason made some huge plays for US. Ian Elmer,

1148
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 7: another Cincinnati local guy, man taff High School, made some

1149
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 7: enormous plays and so did as did Trey Perry.

1150
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: So we have a lot of good players.

1151
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 7: And when you have that belief, Tony, as you know,

1152
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 7: when you when you have the confidence, that's everything.

1153
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: Sure, and that confidence grows, it grows with each win

1154
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: and each turtle, because like you said, you've you've now changed.

1155
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: And I think this is a little bit difficult in

1156
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: sports at times to just an average fan when when

1157
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: it goes from just a road game to the road

1158
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: game where you have the target on your back and

1159
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: they're selling out and they're doing different things at arenas

1160
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 3: to get folks into the gym.

1161
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 4: That changes the dynamic.

1162
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: And you guys have seen it at home as well,

1163
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: and what Malette Hall has become this year in this

1164
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: home court advantage and that place being filled up. But

1165
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: it's a different feeling I'm sure now when you guys

1166
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: walk into those road arenas.

1167
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, our first couple of years that I mean,

1168
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 7: most of them were half empty or mostly right, and

1169
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 7: now wherever we go it's sold out.

1170
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: I wish we could get half see.

1171
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: Like on this gate, on this ticket gate, you know,

1172
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, can we get half you know?

1173
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 7: Like, uh, you know, But because it's funny, you watch

1174
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 7: the one of their other games on film, they get

1175
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 7: nobody there, right, and when we've been there. But it's

1176
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 7: been super cool for our guys to be able to

1177
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 7: experience that. What a what an experience, What a ride

1178
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 7: that we're on. Our guys lean right into it.

1179
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 4: That's right.

1180
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 7: We love playing on the road quite honestly, kind of

1181
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 7: being the villain a little bit, yep, silencing the crowd.

1182
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 7: Our guys really really basking that sunlight.

1183
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: How much does that help when you start to look ahead?

1184
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: Now outside of and and tomorrow night is its own

1185
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: separate entity and we'll get to that. But you start

1186
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: to look ahead to a MAC tournament, an NC double

1187
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 3: a tournament. That's the atmosphere for me of the excitement

1188
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 3: and you're you're not always used to that. How much

1189
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: does this help going through this this year to get

1190
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: to those bigger moments.

1191
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 7: I think it really helps. You know, we're used to

1192
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 7: the big crowds. It's not gonna put it not gonna

1193
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 7: be a distraction at all for us. When you play

1194
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 7: in the MAC Tournament. It's funny, you know, because it's

1195
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 7: situated right there in Cleveland. We have a lot of

1196
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 7: Miami alumni there, sure, but like it is a home

1197
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 7: game for k State and Acron. Yeah, so you're playing

1198
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 7: on the road in a huge arena. There's a lot

1199
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 7: of people there. It's awesome. So for us to be

1200
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 7: able to get practiced during the regular season for that,

1201
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 7: I think will service really well.

1202
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 2: You guys had a three game stretch where you scored

1203
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: one hundred, one hundred and five hundred and seven. We

1204
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: know anyone that's watched basketball knows that your team can

1205
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: score in bunches. What is it said about your team

1206
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: over the last two you win a game sixty nine

1207
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: to sixty seven. You win a game seventy four to

1208
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: seventy two. A lot of times those high scoring teams,

1209
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: if you have an off night, could be in trouble.

1210
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: But talk about what you guys have been able to

1211
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: do on the defensive side of the ball as you've grown.

1212
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, the last month, since February one, we've been a

1213
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 7: top fifty defensive team in the country, and that was

1214
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 7: kind of my focus over this last month. You want

1215
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 7: to kind of time it up right because you want

1216
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 7: to peak right at the right time. We're not playing

1217
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 7: our best over the last week and a half, and

1218
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 7: that's okay. This isn't linear like we all want it

1219
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 7: to be ar right, Like, there's kind of peaks and valleys.

1220
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 7: You got to peak at the right time. Want to

1221
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 7: peak and obviously in Cleveland and then into the NCAA tournament.

1222
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: But our defense, we can win in different ways. We

1223
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: can win a slow down game.

1224
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 7: We'd rather play up tempo, sure, and the seventy five

1225
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 7: possessions around there, seventy four to seventy five. We'd rather

1226
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 7: play in the nineties, but we can play in the

1227
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 7: sixties and seventies and we can be very very successful,

1228
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 7: and I think you're gonna have odds are you're gonna

1229
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 7: have one offshooting.

1230
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: Night in Cleveland in one of those three games. So

1231
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 4: you've got to be able to win that game. And

1232
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: our team's built for that.

1233
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: In today's world, maybe twenty years ago, it's different. In

1234
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: today's world social media, the attention that that these players

1235
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: are getting. It's one thing to say, one game at

1236
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: a time, one focus at a time. You hear the

1237
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: noise out there and everything that's being said about this

1238
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: team in March and going forward. How do you do

1239
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: your best as a coach to try to quiet that

1240
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: with your guys or do you lean into it a

1241
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: little bit with.

1242
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 4: The guys we talk about it. I just said a

1243
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 4: fels like like with Bruce Pearl.

1244
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 7: I love Bruce pel Bruce Pearl's he's a way better

1245
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 7: coach than I'll ever be, right, a tremendous and he's

1246
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 7: a good guy.

1247
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 4: Sure, but listen, just like Wally Zerbiak, he's going to

1248
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 4: be what Yeah.

1249
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 3: He's a dad as well.

1250
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, like, and he wants to push my you know, like,

1251
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 7: so everybody listen, everybody's got agenda. Sure, if I'm not

1252
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 7: going to call Bruce Pearl and ask him for his

1253
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 7: opinion on our team or his advice, Then why the

1254
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 7: heck should I listen to him at this correct We

1255
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 7: got to focus on the things we could control. It's

1256
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 7: having a great practice, film session, lifting recovery, so that

1257
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 7: prepares us for these games because we get to control

1258
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 7: our own destiny.

1259
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: That's the beauty of it.

1260
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: It's been a game by game mantra. But anyone that

1261
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: looks at the schedule and you look at okay, March

1262
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: sixth on the road, Oh you it's now at nine

1263
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: o'clock start. Like you said, you guys have had the

1264
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: target on your back. But what does this one Tomorrow night?

1265
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: The extra juice that it brings, knowing that it's such

1266
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: a big rival, knowing those relationships that are in place,

1267
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: and what, oh you've used this as talk a little

1268
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: bit about tomorrow night and what you guys need to do.

1269
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 7: Battle the Bricks Part two. Man, we obviously got him

1270
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 7: at home a few weeks back, but that doesn't matter. Yeah,

1271
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 7: in the past, in the rearview mirror, right zero zero,

1272
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 7: it's gonna be. It's a players game. As you know,

1273
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 7: in rivalry games, those are the best. It's what you

1274
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 7: go to, whether it's high school, whether you're in middle school, rivalries,

1275
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 7: they're all the same, but they're elite.

1276
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,959
Speaker 4: Those are moments you have for the rest of your life.

1277
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: It's a players game.

1278
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 7: Don't look at the bench, don't look a complain about

1279
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 7: a foul call or whatever. Man you go next play

1280
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 7: and you got a man up, and our guys, we're

1281
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 7: going to be very, very excited to play. It'll be

1282
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 7: an absolute zoo in there tomorrow night, national televised game,

1283
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 7: and it's gonna be awesome.

1284
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, still a lot to go on this season, and

1285
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: I know you've got the family at home and you

1286
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: mentioned your daughter. Have you had a chance or do

1287
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: you have a chance while you're in the moment to

1288
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: just appreciate what this season has been. Do you set

1289
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: that aside for down the road. There's not a lot

1290
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 2: of teams you start talking about the history of this game.

1291
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: They have college basketball. Not a lot of teams have

1292
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,479
Speaker 2: sat where you guys sit right now. Do you allow

1293
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: yourself to take that in at all? Or is it

1294
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: just so so crazy one game to the next that

1295
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 2: you don't really get that chance. Yeah, you know it's hard,

1296
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: but you do want to enjoy it. You's a coach,

1297
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: as an athlete, you know, or a competitor, you want

1298
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Speaker 2: to move on next, next, next, next, And but.

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Speaker 7: You do want to embrace it because it is unique

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01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 7: the situation that we're in right now, and so again

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 7: we want we want to enjoy. It was great that

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 7: all we had all three kids up at the game

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01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 7: the other night against Toledo.

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Speaker 4: You know, got to experience that because it was cool. Man,

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01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 4: it's a cool moment.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, we got to move on

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01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 7: very quickly to Kyle right right, like that's it's the

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01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 7: next one up, and you know, so we were enjoying it.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, you got to continue to

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Speaker 4: look forward.

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Speaker 2: On top of that and before we let you go,

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01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: obviously a big week last week and getting a new

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01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: arena confirmed and the renderings of that look amazing and

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01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: what that's going to be. From a student and a

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01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: fan perspective, you've also got to enjoy the heritage and

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01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: the history I'm sure a Mullett Hall and seeing that

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01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: place packed in a way that it hasn't been for

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Speaker 2: quite some time. Uh, just the direction, the trajectory. It's

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01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, it's you want to enjoy this. You

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01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 2: want to enjoy this season. You don't get to stop

1321
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: in this world of college basketball because as soon as

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01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: it ends, whenever it ends, you're on to the next one.

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01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't stop. So the trajectory in the future now

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: of what Miami is and how this arena is going

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Speaker 2: to help.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I listen, you get to catch the momentum and

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01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 7: our women's programs crushing and they just won the MAC

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Speaker 7: regular season title last night as well, and our men's

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01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 7: basketball program is obviously doing well.

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 4: And you look back to like even like ninety nine.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't at Miami at the time, but Wally Sweet sixteen,

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01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 7: the whole deal never really caught that momentum, right, you know,

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 7: And and it now's the time, and I think it's

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01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 7: awesome to see the board, President Crawford, David Saylor, athletic director,

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 7: everybody's pulling in the same direction and they see kind

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01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 7: of what you know, a successful men's basketball program, women's

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 7: basketball programs can do for the university and just the

1338
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 7: exposure great university is going to get that it's getting.

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01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 7: It's incredible, So very appreciative other support.

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Speaker 12: We are.

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Speaker 2: We're a pretty s the review I know it's a

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01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: hectic time. I know you're getting pulled in a lot

1343
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: of different directions, and you've done an awesome job making

1344
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: sure this team has been ready for thirty regular season games.

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: You got one more tomorrow night, National TV nine o'clock

1346
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: and Athen's coach, best of luck tomorrow night in the

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01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: MAC Tournament and in the NCAA Tournament as well.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you, thank you for having me on Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Talkbacks come up next. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks. Press the microphone and record

1352
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 4: your message for Austin in tone, Please keep it clean

1353
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 4: and don't be mean at a sprinkle sprinkle, drip drifts.

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01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 15: It's our favorite parter since three sixty.

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01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 9: So Austin buddy, play those.

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 16: Bunkbacks on your screen and please drive out to sabotage.

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Speaker 2: E Thursday edition of Talkbacks ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: In just a moment, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, Well

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: we wait on these. I will say though, how cool

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: it has been last couple of weeks we've had Travis

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01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: steel in studio twice. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean

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01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: today he showed up with his suitcase. He's going from

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01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: here to Miami to Ohio and still well Athens. I'm sorry,

1365
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: and still made time to stop by. That is that's

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01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: really cool.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's Jim in Millfield. Yes.

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Speaker 8: Jay.

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Speaker 17: When I was doing my first take of this talkback,

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01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 17: Miami tax hip police pulled up alongside of me as

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01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 17: I was driving. Ooh, yeah, nothing happened. But hey, let's

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Speaker 17: talk superstitions. Okay, I want to know, Tony, if was

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01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 17: there any superstitious players when you were in the NFL?

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: Please tell I don't think I was around many superstitious players.

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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: Maybe some that were a little stitious, but none at

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01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: the point of superstitious. None at the point I was

1377
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: never a really superstitious player either.

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01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: You didn't have any like pregame routines. No, I saw

1379
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 3: videos just locked in. Abby Wombach was on a podcast

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01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: recently and she talked for like ten minutes about all

1381
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 3: her pregame rituals and routines.

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01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:25,959
Speaker 4: Sure.

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01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 3: Also, I can't say this for sure, but I would

1384
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: imagine if you told the police officer what was going on. Yeah,

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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure they listen and probably secretly leave

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: talkbacks as well.

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Speaker 18: Some guys, Nick Calhoun and Kentucky Adye, you got my

1388
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 18: mouth water and since lunch yesterday wanting to Bacon raft Sushie,

1389
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 18: where'd you say.

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01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 4: You got that thing from Dorthy Tony.

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Speaker 18: I'm glad Jerry Calhoun's starting to lose because, like I said,

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Speaker 18: I don't want that Harry Kal coming here.

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 18: I think you let West Miller State one more year

1395
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 18: and just ride his contract out like Arizona State is

1396
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 18: Bobby heardy that Calhoun goes somewhere else.

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01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 4: Don't bring that dueve Harry Coup back here.

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01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 18: And what do y'all think about a little double dip

1399
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 18: going after Kyler Murray letting back up Burrow but then

1400
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 18: also play baseball.

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 4: You could split the contract.

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: Oh Kyler played for the Reds.

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01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 19: Hey fellas, it's Benny unbelievable, man, the Star's finally aligned.

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 4: Austin Tony an electric.

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01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 7: It was.

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01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 18: I couldn't believe it. Man.

1407
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 3: Actually felt my athletic ability increased tenfold up.

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 4: It was huge, huge, But guys.

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01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 18: What are we doing out meeting him?

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01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 12: A wild like that with Maurice Austin.

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01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 3: And Tony Man and I don't know who the other

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01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: guy was, but he must be important.

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Speaker 12: Listen to this, rub has it that Jesse at Skips

1414
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 12: is actually.

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Speaker 4: Loud talk back guy.

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01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: I would have never never guessed meeting Vinnie h that

1417
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 2: that would have come the fredition there.

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01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: It's my favorite thing.

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01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: Incredible in the world is I mean, Vinnie very polished,

1420
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: very buttoned up, looks like he holds a very important

1421
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: position in this building.

1422
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: And then you get that the jesse at Uh that's

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01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 3: that's inside Bay. Yep, that's good stuff.

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 20: Hey guys, I'm sorry you've already covered this, but just

1425
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 20: the fact that we're letting Trey walk, does that indicate

1426
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 20: that we're probably conceding free agency this season in the

1427
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 20: sense that we're not going to be going after these big,

1428
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 20: you know, high profile free agents in order to get

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 20: the comp pick next year.

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand if we're all in or half

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 3: in or I don't know.

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Speaker 20: For Duke, it seems like the glass is always half full,

1433
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 20: and for us it always feels half empty.

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01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 3: That's trolling, right the move from sticks. Haven't heard for

1435
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: this guy in a while, so he may not be trolling.

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01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: The move from on from Trey Henderson, does not, I think,

1437
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: signify that they're not going to be aggressive in trying

1438
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: to get some splash players.

1439
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: Correct. Every person that covers this team all says the

1440
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 3: same thing. They expect them to be very active in

1441
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 3: free agency. So no, I don't think it is a

1442
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: concession on this year's free agency.

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 19: It's the Lord, Tony Austin, I've got a start bench cut.

1444
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 19: What are you most excited about during the NFL offseason?

1445
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 19: Start bench cut? The NFL Draft, the NFL Combine, the

1446
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 19: NFL schedule release.

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01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: For me, it's the draft, and then it's the Combine,

1448
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: and then it's the schedule release. For me, it's the

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01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: draft and it's close, and then it's the schedule release

1450
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 3: because you get to plan out the rest of the year,

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01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 3: at least for my purposes, and then the Combine after that.

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 19: What are the chances of the Bengals signing Khalil Mack?

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01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 3: Probably not zero, not zero, But I don't think great

1454
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 3: because Khalil Mack is old. Just like you, Tony.

1455
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 4: I like you for a reason.

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01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 3: Bruno mars Man, that man can six.

1457
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 4: Yes.

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01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 21: I have his albums on repeat all throughout the year.

1459
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 21: Just good vibes, little old school loves songs.

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Speaker 12: It's really good.

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01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 4: He's a really good singer.

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01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 3: Plus had the.

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Speaker 21: Best Super Bowl halftime show in my opinion. That's a

1464
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 21: very unpopular opinion, but that was the year the Austin

1465
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 21: Broncos played with a blowout and that.

1466
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 5: Man owned the sheete.

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 3: I think he even had red hot Chili peppers on

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01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: there too. Performance free watch it. He was good. And

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01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: he's only like I mean, not that it might he's

1470
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 3: only like five to four, but he brings that place.

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Speaker 5: I have to do it.

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01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: I think just as smaller than I think you would.

1473
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 3: I think you're being a highist again. You would see

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 3: him man, Tony and Austin.

1475
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 13: It is a rainy gray day.

1476
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 22: Hey, I got tears in my ears from lying in

1477
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 22: my bed on my back while I crawl over you.

1478
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: That turned me off the country that I have.

1479
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 7: Expanded my genre since then, and the music's gotten a

1480
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,839
Speaker 7: little bit different.

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 4: Have a great day, guys, Please be safe. That was fantastic.

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01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, beautifully beautifully sung.

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 21: Hey, Fellas Friday Eve, it's DJ frumb I gotta tell

1484
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 21: you guys.

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 10: Ever since West Miller cried at that press conference a

1486
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 10: few weeks.

1487
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 21: Ago, my basketball life has gotten much better.

1488
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 10: Bearcat's playing like a top ten program.

1489
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 5: Yep.

1490
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 21: The Charlotte Hornets, My Charlotte Hornets, who are tian records

1491
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 21: set by Cold State twenty seventeen.

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01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 23: My second and third grade girls killed it at the

1493
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 23: hoop Fest a few weeks ago in the happy Field.

1494
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 10: House and just left wondering is this what life is?

1495
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 19: Now?

1496
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 5: Is this real life?

1497
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 4: Have a great day, man? The Hafey Field House down

1498
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 4: in readiness is one for the history.

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Speaker 3: So she'd asked Travis if he's ever considered crying in

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: front of his team to get them way better.

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Speaker 4: Next time we get them, gentlemen, got to start bench

1502
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 4: cut for you? Who do you trust for Red's medical staff?

1503
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 8: Oh?

1504
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 4: The Golden Archers to give you hot fries?

1505
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 3: Man, I'm out on fries for the time before.

1506
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: But do you trust them? I trust them the most.

1507
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: I would think they get the most trust right now

1508
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: in that group. Yes, I'd bench Duke, and I'd probably

1509
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: have to cut the Reds medical right now.

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 3: I agree, Dookie.

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Speaker 22: I just want to go back and say that that

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 22: which tass State team was seventeen home wins, twelve road wins,

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01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 22: six and one neutral. The neutral lost was to my Wildcats.

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01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 22: That was the team that had Van Vliet and Ron

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Speaker 22: Baker the only team coach on their schedule. Tennessee and Bama.

1516
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 22: You can only play who's in front of you.

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01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean those Tennessee and Bama are certainly impressive wins.

1518
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: There was an article out today and we might get

1519
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: to it here if we got time at the end

1520
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: of the our Eur three of kind of an in

1521
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: depth look of who Miami actually tried to schedule and

1522
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: got turned down. So it wasn't This wasn't a case

1523
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 2: of they set the schedule, they wanted to schedule more

1524
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 2: difficult and they couldn't get a team to take it.

1525
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 10: Where would Wade Miley end up in the rotation for

1526
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 10: Kuba and where would Tony.

1527
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 4: Pike end up in the batting order? I mean, I

1528
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 4: hit Tuny Pike would have.

1529
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: To be, you know, in the lineup, you'd be at

1530
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: the end of the bench.

1531
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 4: Would interesting to think about.

1532
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: Maybe fourth, because I don't have the speed in which

1533
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 2: I once thought I did, But I think I could

1534
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: go clean up for Cuba. No, you could, and I'd

1535
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: welcome some batting practice off Wade Miley.

1536
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 3: You could maybe make the team, but you ain't getting

1537
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 3: a hit against anybody in the world baseball classes. Doesn't

1538
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: matter if it's Chinese, Taipei and and Stuart Fairchild, doesn't

1539
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: matter if it's Israel, if it's Australia, sure as hell,

1540
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 3: you ain't touching Trek Scuball. Just want to pitch count

1541
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: fifty five of them back.

1542
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 10: Is in regards to Miows Garrett getting speeded ticket on

1543
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 10: Ice one, not the nine tickets I did not know

1544
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 10: about earlier. When I looked at that citation. It was

1545
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 10: a mile post one hundred and ninety five. Now at

1546
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 10: that part on SNY one, if anyone has done since

1547
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 10: that to Cleveland, claud List of Cleveland is three lanes

1548
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 10: all the way to the airport in Cleveland. It's easy

1549
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 10: to speed twenty five over over there.

1550
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just got to have the other eight speeding

1551
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 3: tickets before that.

1552
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, I have to double dip on the The State

1553
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 10: Highway Patrol office is right outside of Ashland, so obviously

1554
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 10: once he passed Aceland within ten miles of that area,

1555
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 10: there's always going to be a State Highway patrol pulling

1556
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 10: over any speeders on there.

1557
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 19: I know it.

1558
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 10: I always carves siventy one all.

1559
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 5: The time to get to New England.

1560
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 3: You just know that you just can't go that fast

1561
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 3: over there all right?

1562
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 5: Now?

1563
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 3: This might be is that where e Roaldis Chapman got

1564
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: pulled over to This might be a dumb question and

1565
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 3: I I've only received one ticket in my life. Knock

1566
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: on wood?

1567
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: Is there is there not a limit to how many

1568
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 2: tickets you can get before like you get your license

1569
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: taken away or something else happening.

1570
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 3: I did see a post this morning that said Miles

1571
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 3: Garrett has more points on his license in the Browns

1572
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: offense average last year.

1573
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:55,879
Speaker 4: Yikes.

1574
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 24: Oh love me, Sulu Holtz. I never forgave he was

1575
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 24: coach in Arkansas. They were playing Oklahoma. I think it

1576
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 24: was the Cotton Bowl. Arkansas big underdog. His wide receivers

1577
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 24: and running backs gotting a bunch of snanigans. He wouldn't

1578
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 24: let him play. People like, how can you do that?

1579
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 24: You're gonna get blown out. He's like, they got to

1580
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 24: follow the rules. They ended up crushing Oklahoma.

1581
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 8: Thank you, Ah busted.

1582
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 10: This is Super Bowl champion Rob Gronkowski.

1583
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 21: How about this Dalton Roadhouse riser blocking protecting keeping the

1584
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 21: bartender safe?

1585
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 11: Joe Burrow all.

1586
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 5: Right, see you guys.

1587
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 3: Okay, that was Gronk. Thanks Gronk.

1588
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 13: Yo, Tony, great interview with coach Steele. I'm a diehard

1589
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 13: Zavier fan, definitely one of the guys pounding my fists

1590
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 13: to get him out of Xavier after his tenure. But yeah,

1591
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 13: I don't hate the guy. And really, man, I love

1592
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 13: how he answered your question about how do you handle

1593
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 13: the adversity as it comes up losing guys and he

1594
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 13: said it starts with him. That's a coach who knows

1595
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 13: his role. He knows exactly who these guys see him as. Yeah,

1596
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 13: I'm rooting for him.

1597
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 11: Man.

1598
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 4: It was awesome.

1599
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, some calling America's team and there's Tony Pike loobbin

1600
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 3: softballs to Travis Steeles.

1601
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 13: Tony, he had one shot to ask him if he

1602
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 13: was going to take any players with him the Cincinnati

1603
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 13: next season.

1604
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 12: He didn't do it.

1605
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 3: That would be crazy. Where's he going?

1606
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1607
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 12: Question is Jake Browning still on the roster or she

1608
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:37,799
Speaker 12: been released?

1609
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything. Jake Browning's contract expires in a

1610
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 3: couple of days.

1611
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 25: Hey, guys, Paul from Cleaves here. My question is is

1612
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 25: there a quarterback out there right? Now that we are

1613
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 25: going to sign as a backup, we know Joe Flacco

1614
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 25: is going to look for a starting job. I'm I'm

1615
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 25: just curious if there's a or do you think we

1616
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 25: can draft a quarterback to back up Borrow?

1617
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 4: What do you guys think is there a quarterback out there?

1618
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: I've not reached this point in my NFL offseason checklist,

1619
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: but hold on, I got a trusts as just pulled

1620
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: something off the wall.

1621
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's I'll go from the bottom up. Start from

1622
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 3: the bottom to get here. Potential guys Easton Stick, John Walford,

1623
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 3: friend of the show, just got engaged ripping. Okay, Jeff Driscoll,

1624
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 3: we've had those guys, know for Skyler Thompson, Brandon Allen No,

1625
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 3: Ted Bridgewater, sure, Josh Johnson, No, Kyle Allen, No, Sam Howell,

1626
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 3: maybe Trey Lance, Zach Wilson. Can he pick it? Tyler Huntley,

1627
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz, Carson Wentz. I don't know if any of

1628
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 3: those guys are really sick opportunities. I'll give you number one.

1629
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 3: I think they will draft on late. Number two. I'll

1630
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 3: give you a name to keep an eye out on, Okay,

1631
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 3: Dorian Thompson, Robbins d t R something to think about.

1632
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I think they could draft on.

1633
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 23: Hey, guys, I keep hearing how it was no big

1634
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 23: deal not to tag Tray, But I'm still kind of

1635
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 23: curious why they didn't go ahead and tag him and

1636
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 23: see what kind of interest it really was they did.

1637
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 23: Quite sure that every team is going to say, now

1638
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 23: we only make a trade waiting for him the releasing,

1639
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 23: because that's always been their mo. I'm just curious what

1640
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 23: would have happened. I mean, he doesn't sign it, they

1641
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 23: re send it in a week and there's no harm done.

1642
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 23: What do you think I think they've.

1643
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: Tried to trade him for over a year.

1644
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: I think if there was a team legitimately interested, they

1645
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: would have correct if they I mean, yes, there they were,

1646
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: just it just wasn't there.

1647
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 3: That was our last one.

1648
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 4: It wasn't there. Sorry.

1649
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people don't want to

1650
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: go down that path, but you know, I it's I

1651
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: guess that's the part of it. I get when you're

1652
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: not in the trenches here in Cincinnati and covering this

1653
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: team like we have the opportunity to do. If you're

1654
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 2: not following the Bengals day to day, Austin, you would say, Okay,

1655
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson now immediately becomes too many the top available

1656
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: free agent on the defensive side of the ball. The

1657
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: Bengals had an awful defense, and they chose to let

1658
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 2: the presumed top free agent to go. I could see

1659
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 2: how maybe folks would view that as all the Bengals

1660
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 2: are just being the Bengals. If you followed this situation

1661
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 2: for a couple of years, this was the end. This

1662
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: was the conclusion that we all expected to happen. I

1663
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: get on the outside, how it may optically look, just

1664
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 2: didn't work here. And by the way, the year he

1665
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: led the NFL in sacks, they were still one of

1666
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: the worst defenses in the NFL.

1667
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: The Bengals tried to trade him. Now, should they have

1668
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 3: just taken with them they could have gotten yes, but

1669
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 3: at this point, just let it go.

1670
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 4: I we could talk more about it. We have time.

1671
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:11,839
Speaker 4: We have two segments.

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01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 2: Yes in our number two, and we'll get to Keegan

1673
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 2: Nickoson to kick off our number three along with Bob

1674
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: Manjean at Sincy three sixty. By the way, your phone

1675
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 2: calls if you want to get a phone call in

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Speaker 2: five to one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen, thirty. We've

1677
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 2: got some time to do that right now. That comes

1678
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 14: Hey, it's Motweger, whether it's D three sixty here every

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01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 14: show at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com.

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01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: Welcome back Sincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1682
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 2: A couple of sports stories that are happening right now.

1683
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: This not one you hear every day ESPN dot com.

1684
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: Police say a coach on the cal State Bakersfield men's

1685
01:18:55,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: basketball program has been moonlighting as a pimpross four States moonlighting. Huh,

1686
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: he has been dismissed from the program. Wow, not one

1687
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: you read every day. No, how about this one? Really,

1688
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: it's really.

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01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 4: How about?

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01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 7: No?

1691
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 3: Pimps were still a thing? I didn't either. Okay, four States?

1692
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 3: It's not easy, is what I've heard. No, not how

1693
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 3: about this? A's general manager David Forst what's his name? Forrest?

1694
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 4: Okay, David?

1695
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: He said, Kyler Murray is an elite NFL quarterback and

1696
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are plenty of opportunities for him to

1697
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 2: continue his football career. That said, he and his baseball

1698
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: representatives know that we're always open to him exploring and

1699
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: return to.

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01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 3: Baseball with the A's if that time comes. They still

1701
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 3: own his rights. They drafted him. People forget think Kyler

1702
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 3: Murray would ever think about that. Yeah, I think you would.

1703
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 3: The Padres didn't. They draft Johnny Manziel, Yeah, Johnny Football,

1704
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 3: John Football. There's been a couple other like random yeah,

1705
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 3: dudes get drafted.

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 2: It'd be interesting to follow along with a couple of

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01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: phone calls here, we'll get a break in.

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 4: What's up, Mark, Hey, how's it going.

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01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 11: I just wanted to time in on the trade Henderson issue.

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01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 11: When I look at that situation, I think Trey screwed

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01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 11: itself over when he signed that one year contract. You know,

1712
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 11: when up when are Bengal players are going to wake

1713
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 11: up and quit doing that. If he hadn't done that,

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01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 11: he'd have been a free agent last year and he

1715
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 11: would have got his money.

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01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 12: So I think.

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01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 11: I think, I think he screwed hisself when he did that.

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01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 11: So so yeah, and then, uh, as far as the

1719
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 11: Reds are concerned, I heard the talk about Hunter Green.

1720
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 11: You know, I said this last year with him, when

1721
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 11: he I was open to trade him because he gets

1722
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 11: hurt too much, and when pictures hurt their elbows.

1723
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I've seen it in the past when.

1724
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 11: Uh, the player that comes to mind is Jose Rio

1725
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 11: when when he started having elbow problem, he wasn't never

1726
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,799
Speaker 11: the same, you know, with a pictures like the elbow

1727
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 11: and the shoulder with Homer Bailey heard his I think

1728
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 11: it was his elbow. He wasn't never the same when

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01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 11: he came back. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Sure, so

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Speaker 11: we'll see what. Yeah, So I'll get off and listen

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01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 11: to the rest of the show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Mark, that is it's obviously something I think

1733
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: we can maybe try to learn more on. When we

1734
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 2: talked to Bob Manjean. Coming up in the third and

1735
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 2: final hour of the show today, Greg is calling it.

1736
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 12: Hello, Greg, Good, how's it going.

1737
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 3: What's up?

1738
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 22: Hey?

1739
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 12: I just want to mention one of my best friends

1740
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 12: from nineteen seventy eight till right now.

1741
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 3: It was a guy named Doug Bear b A I R.

1742
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 12: He pitched for the Reds from what's seventy.

1743
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,759
Speaker 3: Eight to eighty one, okay, and just wanted.

1744
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 12: To highlight just how his career went. Anyway, he wound

1745
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 12: up with like a a fifteen sixteen year career and

1746
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 12: if you go on baseball or our friends, you'll see,

1747
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 12: you know, a nice career. But the Reds brought him

1748
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 12: here in seventy eight to be a closer. Trying as

1749
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:10,839
Speaker 12: a closer worked out great, that's what Sparking wanted. Sparking

1750
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 12: insirted him as a closer. He had like twenty eight says,

1751
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 12: less than a two era. And now his fourth year

1752
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 12: here is when the Reds went on strike, and that's

1753
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 12: where I kind of came in to play a little bit.

1754
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 12: So the strike started in early June and it went

1755
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 12: till the first of August. So during the strike, him

1756
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 12: and I would go over to Sycamore High School three

1757
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:40,879
Speaker 12: or four times a week.

1758
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 5: And he would throw to me.

1759
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 12: So I'm always telling you know, I kept you in shape.

1760
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 8: Anyway.

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01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 12: That's when we really became best friends. So after they

1762
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 12: came back from strike around the first and September, the

1763
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 12: Red Stradium of the Cardinals to be bru suitors set

1764
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 12: up Guy Well. The very next year, Doug and Bruce

1765
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 12: Souiter and the Cardinals won the World Championships.

1766
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 5: So Doug got a.

1767
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 3: Rug very nice right.

1768
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,719
Speaker 12: Two years later, Lessinger Sparky is now the manager of Detroit.

1769
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,480
Speaker 12: So sparky. He's a setup man for the great Willy Hernandez.

1770
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 12: And if you look up Willy Hernandez in eighty four,

1771
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 12: he was not only the cy Young Award winner in

1772
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 12: the American League, but he won the MVP.

1773
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 4: So here you go.

1774
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 12: Two years later in Detroit, Doug's won another World Championship team.

1775
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 12: So yeah, that was yeah, that wasn't bad at Also, anyway,

1776
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 12: his career ended in nineties, but if you look him

1777
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 12: up on you know, baseball reverence, he had really a

1778
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 12: nice career. And one other thing I was gonna mention,

1779
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 12: like when he was with the Reds, wife and I

1780
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 12: we'd take a week get down to Tampa with the Cardinals,

1781
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 12: we get down to Saint Petersburg, you know, with Lakeland.

1782
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 12: When it was Detroit, we'd get down to Lakeland. But

1783
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 12: the different baseball people that I met over the years

1784
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 12: was you know, incredible, sure, very incredible with him. And

1785
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 12: then one other thing I want to mention. It's not

1786
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 12: a big deal, but the guy called this, This guy

1787
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 12: kind of got me started. The guy that called yes,

1788
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 12: and he was talking about Dave Collins, a left handed hitter,

1789
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 12: and Dave was really a good ball player. And I

1790
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 12: actually met him. Well, I saw him play and met

1791
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 12: him a couple of times. But Dave Collins was a

1792
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 12: switch here, which isn't a big deal. But in other words,

1793
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 12: the guy yesterday said something about being a left hander,

1794
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 12: but a left handed interview, he was actually a switch here.

1795
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 12: So anyway, I just wanted to kind of highlight Doug's career.

1796
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: Thanks Greg, Thank you, Greg, appreciate it. Let's get one

1797
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 2: one on the way, Drew. Before we get to a break.

1798
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 3: What's up Drill?

1799
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, A few things here?

1800
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 15: How's it going off? How's how's it going?

1801
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 5: Wait?

1802
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 19: Is this?

1803
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 3: Is this the Drew from the Dan Patrick Show earlier

1804
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 3: this morning? Unbelievable work today here right now? Man, you're

1805
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 3: like Mike in l A. You're like, you're just calling

1806
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,799
Speaker 3: into all the shows.

1807
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 15: Well, you know that's what I do all day long,

1808
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 15: call every radio station I can find on the internet.

1809
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 12: What do you got do you have?

1810
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 15: Do you have the button in there or is it just.

1811
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 12: Often who has the power of the button?

1812
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 4: What people call we we both have. We both possess

1813
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 4: a button.

1814
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 15: How much dust is on yours?

1815
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: We can find out standing ovation from me, Drew.

1816
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 12: If you go to the grocery store.

1817
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 5: How long are you in there for?

1818
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 12: Someone comes up to talk for four hours?

1819
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 4: Hours hours?

1820
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm gone for days at a time from my wife.

1821
01:25:58,720 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 5: My goodness.

1822
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 15: No, I mean, I get it. If it's one thing

1823
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 15: to be nice, but it's one it's another thing to

1824
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 15: give up your whole life.

1825
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 12: Uh, good for you.

1826
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 3: I guess if he would have hung up on you

1827
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 3: by now, I.

1828
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 15: Just wanted to see if you if you did hear me.

1829
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 15: I'm talking about Trey because I I am gonna tired

1830
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 15: of that, and and I was tired of him.

1831
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 12: I was glad to skim go.

1832
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 15: I mean, could you imagine if the company treated their

1833
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 15: employees the way he wanted to be treated? If I

1834
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 15: got a raise every year, that company would go bankrupt?

1835
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 15: And no matter. I mean, so I get what he

1836
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 15: wanted to one years the year deal thing. No, I

1837
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 15: don't think that was that stupid by him, but I

1838
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 15: was glad to see him go. And if I still

1839
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 15: don't think any of this comp third round Dick makes sense?

1840
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 12: However, would love if we got one just to shut

1841
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 12: everyone up?

1842
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1843
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 3: I agree, I'm hanging on there. Anything else you want

1844
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 3: to say, We've got time.

1845
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 11: It's pretty good.

1846
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 3: I mean not really dodging the Yeah, I get it, unless.

1847
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 15: You want to break down every scenario of every draft

1848
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 15: that could happen this year. If you got a few minutes,

1849
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 15: sure o that Sure Logan Wilson to the Tampa Baby Oh.

1850
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 3: I love him, and him and Trey both love that thought.

1851
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about that one. So thanks, True, True,

1852
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, man.

1853
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 12: I appreciate It's.

1854
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 3: One of my favorite callers, and that was he just

1855
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 3: perfectly delivered that line.

1856
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 4: We'll take a break. We'll finish up the hour next.

1857
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 3: Since he three sixties ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station

1858
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: w c k WNET.

1859
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back.

1860
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 3: Since he three sixties ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1861
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Uh, touch and go here. What do we got coming up?

1862
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 2: An hour three Austin. We've got Keegan Nickoson standing by.

1863
01:27:58,960 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 3: That's correct.

1864
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: We'll join you, Keegan Nickoson. He'll join us next. Bearcat

1865
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: Journal dot Com. Keegan, last time I talked to him,

1866
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 2: he talked about how outlandish it was to think about

1867
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: the Bearcats on the NCAA tournament line. And yet this

1868
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 2: has become more of a thing over the last week.

1869
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: So We'll see what Keegan has to say about that.

1870
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,759
Speaker 2: Other happenings around the Bearcats, the matchup against TCU.

1871
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 3: Shot there, to be honest, Yeah, it was a little

1872
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 3: bit okay, just it was a little bit clarify I

1873
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,839
Speaker 3: heard what I heard correctly.

1874
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: Yep, that was one hundred percent shot at Keigan Nickoson. Okay,

1875
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: you think Keegan Nickoson knows anything about Doug Bear. Uh,

1876
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't know as much as we know about him.

1877
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: Now I know a lot, that's for sure. Shout out

1878
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: to Doug Bear. Three hundred innings for the Cincinnati Red.

1879
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 3: Cubby. Keegan Nickoson is next.

1880
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 2: Bob Man Jean follows that hour three funny ESPN fifteen

1881
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1882
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pikes Sincy Reese about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

1883
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1884
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 4: Our three is here.

1885
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 2: Let's get it started and talk about the Cincinnati Bearcats

1886
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: with our guy Coveringthecats from Bearcat Journal dot Com. I'm

1887
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 2: not talking about Chad Brendle, I think he's in later

1888
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: for Mowager. I'm talking about one Kegan Nickoson kind enough

1889
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: to join us. I don't know is he in between

1890
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: Bloomington and Cincinnati right now, he's trying to figure out

1891
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 2: the bubble out look for the Bearcats, keeping eyes on

1892
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 2: the Hoosiers as well.

1893
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 3: Keegan, what's going on?

1894
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 4: How are you? Nothing much?

1895
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 16: It's my favorite time of the year, so I'm excited

1896
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 16: to be covering a team that at least has a

1897
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 16: chance to play for something come March.

1898
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 4: Leaving on the bubble.

1899
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 3: I remember texting you a couple of months ago and

1900
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 3: I said, Hey, would you be willing to come on

1901
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 3: with us every single Thursday from now until the end

1902
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 3: of basketball season? And you said yes? Is that in Jeopardy?

1903
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: Is this relationship in Jeopardy in the future based off

1904
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 3: the way Tony has treated you repeated all year despite

1905
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 3: your generosity.

1906
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 16: No, it's because you know, I just take so much

1907
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 16: time out of my day, and I really do this

1908
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 16: for the love of the game. And you know, Austin,

1909
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 16: if you started a show, I'd come on the right.

1910
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 16: I just think we're gonna have to renegotiate my deal.

1911
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 16: I'm sure next season. That's why pipe in October. I

1912
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 16: know what that negotiation would sound like.

1913
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 6: On our end.

1914
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time kicking. It felt like a

1915
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago we talked and I mentioned something

1916
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 3: about the NCAA Tournament, and you just kind of shot

1917
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 3: it down and where this team was, And rightfully so,

1918
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 3: where this team was after the West Virginia loss at

1919
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 3: home fifty four points, blowing a fourteen point lead, and

1920
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 3: the loss at Texas Tech. It kind of felt after that, Yeah,

1921
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 3: they won it, Kansas, but then you lose that and

1922
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 3: yet here we talk today about one of the best

1923
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,799
Speaker 3: teams playing right now in college basketball. What has changed

1924
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 3: in your opinion?

1925
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, I remember I was walking around the parking lot

1926
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 16: of the Costco and I ties to you forgiving everyone hope.

1927
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, because they were like sixtieth in the net.

1928
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 16: I really I think what Wes says about finding the

1929
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 16: nucleus and playing with the nucleus is really the biggest thing,

1930
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 16: because it's all it all just has to be rhythm.

1931
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 16: Because it really doesn't make sense that you lose Shanabaya

1932
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 16: if it wasn't really playing that well to begin with,

1933
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 16: but your rotation shortens down that much and you just

1934
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 16: start playing like one of the best teams in the country.

1935
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 16: It's both sides of the ball. It's offensi's defense, it's

1936
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 16: shot making, and it's sharing the ball, it's rebounding, every

1937
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 16: facet of the game.

1938
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 4: They're just absolutely killing it.

1939
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 16: So I think, and you've mentioned it before, the shortened

1940
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 16: rotations and Jaylen Celestine is finally fully healthy and you're

1941
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 16: starting to see how he can impact the game, even

1942
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 16: if it's just making three or four threes. But yeah,

1943
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 16: I just think the Nucleus playing with that starting five

1944
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 16: of Gisel, James, Data, Thomas, Celestian, Sean and Baba Miller.

1945
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,959
Speaker 16: I think that's probably the biggest thing leading to the turnaround.

1946
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 2: I was at a point watching the BYU game and

1947
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, if you would have told me

1948
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 2: back in December that the final home game of the year,

1949
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 2: the first two players off the bench are going to

1950
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: be Zella and Sincere Harris, I would have told you

1951
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 2: that we are in a very serious predicament. But to

1952
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: your point, it feels like they have found something by

1953
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:31,799
Speaker 2: playing seven, maybe eight guys at times. Is that something

1954
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 2: that you can continue if you're Wes Miller and find

1955
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 2: success that way the rest of the way out.

1956
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really don't think you have a choice.

1957
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 16: I think maybe Seanabaiath gets healthy and he's plugged into

1958
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 16: the lineup. Maybe Tyler McKinley can continue to get healthy.

1959
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 16: But I just don't know if you really if you

1960
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 16: want to mess up the rhythm and the chemistry that

1961
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 16: this group has put together and start playing them significantly

1962
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 16: less minutes just in order to get more bodies on

1963
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 16: the court keep them fresh. At this point, like what

1964
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 16: do you have to lose? Like you've done all this,

1965
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 16: it's basically been a miracle. Just keep doing it and

1966
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 16: see if it works. I mean, outside of the Texas

1967
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 16: Tech game, they've been.

1968
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 4: Very, very good. So yeah, I just don't I don't

1969
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 4: think you really change it.

1970
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 16: Maybe you give some guys some three and four minute

1971
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 16: breaks here and there, so like Bobba Miller isn't playing

1972
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 16: thirty six minutes a game.

1973
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 4: But I say, just stick with what's been working the

1974
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 4: horse here.

1975
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 3: But do you think that's also something that can be

1976
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 3: a lesson learned in the offseason when it comes to

1977
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 3: acquiring players, of like, we don't need to get and

1978
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 3: pay a lot of money for eleven or twelve guys

1979
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 3: if we can have seven or eight that are really impactful.

1980
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 5: Do you think that's maybe a.

1981
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 3: Lesson learned this year.

1982
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 4: It could be all.

1983
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 16: I just think the the case with that is no

1984
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 16: one expected Bobba Miller to be this good, Like they

1985
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 16: expected him to be good and impactful. But when you

1986
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 16: recruit those guys who have primarily played like overseas with

1987
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 16: some of their best basketball, and that he played at

1988
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 16: Florida State and FAU so he had kind of known

1989
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 16: what college.

1990
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 4: Basketball was like.

1991
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 16: But those guys are usually pretty soft or like the

1992
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 16: tell on them is that they play the game kind

1993
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 16: of stoff.

1994
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 4: They just want to score offensively.

1995
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 16: He's come in and he's played maybe the hardest of

1996
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 16: anyone on the entire team, so he's been playing statistically

1997
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 16: better than expected. And then he's also providing so much

1998
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 16: as a rebounder and as a defender. So I just

1999
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,560
Speaker 16: think if you're like you have to hit on some

2000
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 16: of the not lower paid guys, because I don't think

2001
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 16: he was on the lower end of in terms of

2002
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 16: what guys made per year, but one of those guys

2003
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 16: who isn't expected to be like a top twenty, top

2004
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,560
Speaker 16: fifteen player in the conference, I think you just have

2005
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 16: to hit on one of those, kind of like football

2006
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 16: did with Jake Golde and other players. So I don't

2007
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 16: know if that really changes much. I think you have

2008
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 16: to just like Wes did, target size and target depth.

2009
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 16: And now you're starting to get that kind of automatic

2010
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 16: offensive performance from Boba Miller and Mustafa cham which a

2011
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 16: lot of fans have basically been looking for in a

2012
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 16: guard over the past three years and Miller hasn't been

2013
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 16: able to get.

2014
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 2: You mentioned Mustapha Chaman, Boba Miller. There have been times

2015
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: this year where we've talked on Thursdays and said, what

2016
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 2: is this team's identity? At this point, it feels like

2017
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 2: they have figured that out. Offensively, they have played more

2018
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: through Mustapha Chaman Boba Miller. I feel like in a

2019
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 2: two week stretch than they have all season. Is that

2020
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 2: now the identity of this team to play inside with

2021
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 2: the biggs and find a way when they do double

2022
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: I think one of Boba Miller's greatest strength is his passing.

2023
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 2: I think that's undervalued in a way, the way he

2024
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 2: finds guys open all over the court. Do they now

2025
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 2: have an identity on offense?

2026
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2027
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 16: You can see with Boba and like how he facilitates

2028
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 16: and how he dishes everything out like he was a

2029
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 16: point guard and then he grew six inches, so he

2030
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 16: still has all those kind of intangibles in those traits.

2031
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 4: But that would be the identity for the team to

2032
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 4: me is.

2033
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 16: Use your size down low and take advantage of the

2034
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 16: mismatches like they did against Kansas, like they've done it

2035
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 16: multiple times, because Sham is just starting to be like

2036
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 16: automatic offensively, Like it reminds me of Gary Clark when

2037
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 16: he got to his back to the basket and he

2038
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 16: put up a hook shot, it was probably going in.

2039
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 16: Now he's using that mid range to where he releases

2040
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 16: the ball so high there's no way that anyone can

2041
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 16: defend it that well.

2042
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 4: And then Bob A just driving to the hoop and

2043
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 4: drawing fouls.

2044
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 16: Now, I think it was before last game, Mustafa Cham

2045
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 16: took twenty one free throws over a three game period,

2046
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 16: seven in each game, and you had to go back

2047
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 16: the game before that three game stretch started all the

2048
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 16: way to lipscumb is how many games it was for

2049
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 16: him to rack up twenty one free throws Dayda Thomas

2050
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 16: is starting to get to the line more. I've come

2051
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 16: on here and said multiple times, your ninety percent free

2052
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 16: throw shooter is only taking like two free throws a

2053
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 16: game that just can't happen. So that's starting to trickle down.

2054
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 16: But like this, this team's success, it begins and it

2055
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 16: ends with Baba Miller and Mustafa cham The thing that's

2056
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 16: made them so dangerous and according to the analytics, is

2057
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 16: making them like the fifth best team in the country

2058
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 16: over this what is it sixth nine games spam is Gisel, James,

2059
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 16: Dada Thomas and John Celestine just playing very, very efficiently.

2060
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 4: On the offensive side.

2061
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that people often talk

2062
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 2: to a negative I would hear about Wes is that

2063
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: the players just don't seem to develop much. I think

2064
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 2: that's opposite. When you look at this roster you mentioned

2065
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 2: Jalen Celestine, I think of a guy in Bob A Miller,

2066
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Kishan Tillery, Mustapha Cham. If you look at this turnaround,

2067
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 2: you have to look at players and you've got to

2068
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 2: give credit where it's due. They have found a way

2069
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 2: to develop these players as the season has gone on

2070
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 2: into guys that they are relying on heavily right now

2071
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 2: for this run.

2072
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like you would.

2073
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 16: Hope that Mustafa Chama be able to come back next year,

2074
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 16: But like either the price tag, there's been a lot

2075
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 16: of expensive or he's going to the NBA. Baba Miller

2076
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 16: is taking a big step forward. He's a very very

2077
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 16: trendy NBA NBA draft pick. And I think if you're

2078
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 16: actually going to look at the development, Keishan Tillery is

2079
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 16: one the number one case, just the confidence that he's

2080
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 16: playing with on both sides of the ball, how he's

2081
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 16: actually getting to the hoop. Like my biggest gripe still

2082
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 16: with day Day and Jis was that they just don't

2083
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 16: go to the hoop like it'll be an open lane

2084
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 16: or there'll be one guy and then they do a

2085
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 16: floater and it's like, did you shoot ninety from the

2086
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 16: free throw?

2087
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 4: Just go and draw contact and go to the free

2088
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 4: throw line.

2089
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 16: So, but I think Keishawan, and I've said it before,

2090
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 16: if there's a coaching change or if West stays, he

2091
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 16: should be a a integral part of the team going

2092
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 16: forward just for his leadership capabilities. And you know, the

2093
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 16: biggest way to see if Wes can all of a

2094
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 16: sudden develop guys is if Seanna Byev comes back and

2095
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 16: all of a sudden just starts lighting it up. Sure,

2096
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 16: because that was kind of that was the nail on

2097
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 16: the coffin of the West. Can't develop guys when you

2098
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 16: bring in a McDonald's All American and he struggled so much.

2099
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: The way in which they played against BYU, the way

2100
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 2: in which they've gone on this stretch. They're not just

2101
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 2: winning games, Keegan, they're dominating games. And I don't care

2102
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 2: at the competition level, I know it's not the top

2103
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 2: tier teams in the Big Twelve, although you throw Kansas

2104
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 2: in there. BYU is a quad one win. What does

2105
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 2: it say about a team? Because we have this conversation

2106
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 2: a lot about the Big Twelve. It's one thing to

2107
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 2: go win, and they did in this stretch. They won

2108
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 2: a game they probably shouldn't have by beating Utah on

2109
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 2: a day where they weren't their best. What's it say

2110
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 2: about this team though, in the confidence to not just

2111
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 2: get these wins, but win in the fashion that they're

2112
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 2: doing in a very good conference.

2113
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2114
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 16: I don't know if I've ever had kind of more

2115
01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 16: respect for a group of athletes, definitely in my career

2116
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 16: of covering guys than this team. Because if you take

2117
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 16: it back to the West Virginia loss. I wrote a

2118
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 16: story after that game saying that it was over, Like,

2119
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 16: what what do these guys have to play for?

2120
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 4: Like it would just be pride at this point.

2121
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 16: Because the run that they would have to go on

2122
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 16: in order to play for any kind of NCAA tournament

2123
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 16: resume would basically be impossible. And I'd had my gripes

2124
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 16: with like some of the effort levels that I'd seen

2125
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 16: throughout the entire season. But Wes has said, like the

2126
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 16: calling card of this team is their resilience, and I

2127
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 16: just I have so much respect for Risofachom battling through

2128
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,600
Speaker 16: an ankle injury, Baba Miller just continuing to play is

2129
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 16: hard out every night. You've got guys who have struggled offensively,

2130
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 16: like Jaln Celestine and Gisel James has had his struggles.

2131
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 16: They're just they're pounding away and they're they're continuing to

2132
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 16: play really good basketball at a time where the entire

2133
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 16: fan base and me and like other guys in the

2134
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 16: media were saying, hey, like it's over. Yeah, let's just

2135
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 16: get to the end of the season. That's like the

2136
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 16: entrance level is going to be nothing and we can

2137
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 16: move on and they'll hire a new coach. So credit

2138
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 16: to them for just saying no, like we have something

2139
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 16: to play for, and I really, honestly do think they

2140
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,759
Speaker 16: were just playing for pride for a couple of games,

2141
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 16: and then you beat Kansas and it's oh crap. That

2142
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 16: would certainly help our NCAA tournament resume if we can

2143
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 16: stack a few more wins.

2144
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 3: How real does this feel for you?

2145
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 4: Now?

2146
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: We see what Leonardi has said, We've seen what other

2147
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 2: folks with bracketology throw out there, and they they have

2148
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 2: to win on Saturday. We know that they've been in

2149
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 2: must win mode for a while now, but Saturday presents

2150
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 2: another quad one opportunity and it's now against the team

2151
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 2: because they just beat Texas Tech. I think TCUs in

2152
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 2: the field as well, so I think maybe there's a

2153
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 2: little less pressure on TCU to have to win this game.

2154
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 2: But if they do get this one, you finish at

2155
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 2: ten and eight and arguably the best conference in all

2156
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 2: of college basketball. What else else would they need to do,

2157
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 2: in your opinion, to be on the bubble And what

2158
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 2: would they need to do to all three be a

2159
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 2: team that you can expect to hear their name called

2160
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 2: on selection Sunday.

2161
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 4: So how I'm feeling, as your native bracketols expert, and.

2162
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,759
Speaker 3: Someone who's been very optimistic through this whole process, I should.

2163
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Speaker 16: Say, yes, very optimistic. Yeah, never said the Nails are

2164
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 16: in the coffin at all. I think if they beat TCU,

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Speaker 16: they need to get at least one in the Big

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01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 16: twelve tournament and then, like I'll be watching selection Sunday

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01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 16: seeing what happens. Sure if they're able to get that

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Speaker 16: second win, which would basically be guaranteed to be a

2169
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 16: quad one win on the initial court, and that's just EYU.

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Speaker 16: If they keep struggling, then that would make me comfortable

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01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 16: on solutions twenty wins. I don't think they have to

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01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 16: get Yeah, I don't think they have to get that

2173
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 16: third win now. If there's a complete collapse and they

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01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 16: get the nine seed to where they have to play

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01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 16: in the first round, I think they would have to

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01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 16: get three in the bigto tournament because I don't think

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01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 16: the committee is going to see you had a quad

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01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 16: two neutral site when against the lower tier conference, or

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01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 16: you had two of them and then you lost the

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01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,640
Speaker 16: actual important game, and then they'll get it in. So

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01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 16: right now they can be that nine seed if they

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Speaker 16: beat TCU, and then I think it's if West Virginia

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01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 16: beats UCF N Morgantown.

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Speaker 4: They go to the sixth seed.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and then that that second game gets a whole

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01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 16: lot more easy compared to playing like anybody in Arizona, Arizona.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, I had someone send me a bracket and I

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01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 16: and it was then getting the eight and plane Arizona,

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01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,560
Speaker 16: And I said, okay, so basically get to the seven.

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01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 4: Or they're not going to the tournament. Sure.

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01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 2: So now I don't know what is real and what

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01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 2: is fake anymore, because AI is such an integral part

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01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 2: of things. But I saw and following along with you

2195
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 2: on Twitter, that there's a photo going around it's asking

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01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 2: please donate to send me to Kansas City and a

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01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 2: bag of gummy bears? Can you elaborate a little bit

2198
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 2: on what this is?

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Speaker 16: Wow, I'm gonna I'm gonna refrain from and like, I'm

2200
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,759
Speaker 16: just gonna defer to my boss, Chad Brendle.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now Chad's in the building today, hold on, hold on.

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Speaker 16: I'm just that everyone got to see how I'm hitting

2203
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 16: way above my average with who I married.

2204
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:15,719
Speaker 4: That was the biggest development.

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01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm taking the coverage we have that in common. That's

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01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 2: a good thing. Now you mentioned Chad Breundle. There were

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01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 2: some remarks I've heard from different folks about Chad's behavior

2208
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 2: at the BYU game. And I go to your Twitter

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Speaker 2: account and I see an empty chair where Chad usually sits.

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01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 2: Can you describe it all? Chad's demeanor and behavior in

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01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 2: that b YU game.

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Speaker 16: It's just disgusting from someone who's supposed to be in

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01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 16: the media, and he's his temper like, he shows his

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01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 16: true colors way too much, and it's it's really made

2215
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 16: me rethink some career decisions for I'm working underneath. But yeah,

2216
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 16: he's at the he's a member of the media. He's

2217
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 16: got to do better.

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01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Sure is it a plan now to be in in

2219
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,719
Speaker 2: UH for the Big twelve tournament? Is that your playing

2220
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 2: right now?

2221
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 16: It's basically I'm going to Fort Worth for the TCU game. Wow,

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01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 16: they win that game, I will go to Casey. If

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01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 16: they lose, I will not.

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01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so must win scenario for you to to

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01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 2: pack some gummy bears along the way.

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01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 3: What's the deal with gummy bears?

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01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 6: Is this big?

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01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 4: You ever hadese gummy bears?

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01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 19: No?

2230
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 4: All the what.

2231
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 3: Is that a brand or is it a country?

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01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 4: It's a It's a brand. I guess the country is

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01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:28,520
Speaker 4: from Albanian.

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01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 16: New Albany's Albanese gummy bears are the best gummy bears ever.

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01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 2: Kigan, you say that, I am often criticized and ridiculed

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01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 2: because I'll I'll get some froyo from time to time

2237
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,759
Speaker 2: and I like to throw gummy bears in the frozen yogurt.

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01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, is that something that you would you

2239
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 2: would ever think to partake in with some Albany's.

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Speaker 4: Austin, what are you doing?

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01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 5: Man?

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01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 3: Listen, I've been I've been trying to get rid of him.

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01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 3: I try to get rid of In October he came back.

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01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm tired of it. I recognize this bag,

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01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 3: the Albany's. Have you heard like any of Tony's food takes, Keegan,

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01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 3: It's bad, It's really bad.

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01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 4: No, what's the worst one all of them?

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01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. Like there's literally no other there's no fruit.

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01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 2: Take Just imagine a piggy five year old eater and

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Speaker 2: that's me getting ready to turn forward.

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01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 3: We will not eat anything like. It's everything's plain, there's

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01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 3: no sauce like.

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01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 4: Medium.

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01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 3: Well, that's disgusting.

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Speaker 4: I beat that.

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01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 2: Now I'm I'm I'm such a veteran. I beat the

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01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 2: server to the note. I'm like, go ahead and butterfly it.

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01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,640
Speaker 2: Don't even ask me if it's okay to butterfly it.

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01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm okay, as long as you get all that pink

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01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 2: out of there.

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01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,520
Speaker 4: Disgusting, that's ridiculous.

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01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 3: I can't believe that, Kegan, thank you worth. I know listening,

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01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 3: our listening audience can't see this. But Keegan is our

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01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 3: first ever video guest. We're working on videoing and we're

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01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 3: gonna post this.

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01:46:58,479 --> 01:46:58,679
Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 3: And so Keegan was guinea pig and he did a

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01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 3: great job. So we really appreciate It'll work on the

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01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 3: camera a little bit and maybe next time. Are you

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01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 3: getting ready to do some shopping? What are you doing

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01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 3: to the rest of your afternoon? He's in his car now.

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01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,560
Speaker 16: I'm on the way home from a press conference and

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01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 16: I pulled over to talk. Okay, sorry, I put so

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01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 16: much effort in you see?

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01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 4: Was it a you see press conference?

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01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 5: Yes?

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01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 4: Okay.

2278
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 3: What do you think about Indiana's opportunity as a bubble team?

2279
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:23,640
Speaker 4: I don't like.

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01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 16: I don't understand. They did the same thing in twenty

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01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 16: twenty two. They lost to Rutgers because Ron Harper Junior

2282
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 16: like hit a like last second shot and then did

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01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 16: a celebration to court. You can look it up if

2284
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,600
Speaker 16: you're curious. And then they won two games in the

2285
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 16: Big Ten Tournament. They beat Illinois and Michigan to clinch it. Yeah,

2286
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 16: so it's like it never over.

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01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 3: Do they have an answer for Bruce Thornton. On Saturday,

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01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 3: Bruce needs twelve points to become the all time leading

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01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 3: scorer in Ohio State history. And it's Bruce Thornton Bobblehead Day,

2290
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 3: and it's Bruce Thornton Senior Day.

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01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 4: You're thought, oh my gosh, that was way too much

2292
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 4: Ohio State propaganda.

2293
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 3: Propaganda? Is it fact? Keigan?

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01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm an Ohio State fan. On Saturday, we need Indiana

2295
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 2: to lose. I'm sorry now, I'm he's getting.

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01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 4: I'm in a good situation. I get a team that

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01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 4: decover either Go or my alma MATERO.

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01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:19,839
Speaker 3: Okay, So you guys have had enough. You want football,

2299
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 3: you don't get anything else, Keigan.

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01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 2: How can folks follow along with your journey to Fort Worth,

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01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 2: with your journey the Big Twelve Tournament, Gummy Bears and.

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01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 3: So much more?

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01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 16: Paul ok Nickoson forty two on X and then catch

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01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 16: me here every Thursday at two.

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01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 4: It is best time in my week.

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01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 5: Ok.

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01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:40,559
Speaker 2: Nickoson, right there, Kigan, thanks, sayah, that's Keg and Nickoson.

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01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 2: We'll stick with the University of Cincinnati next. Bob Man

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01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,879
Speaker 2: Jean will answer our Hunter Green questions as we continue

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01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 2: on on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty

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01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:48:58,720 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 4: Welcome back since three.

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01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 2: Sixty We're rolling along in the third and final hour

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01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 2: of the Thursday edition here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 2: Sports Station. Let's switch gears and let's talk about what

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01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 2: we spent some of today, a lot of yesterday talking

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01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 2: about and thinking about, and that is what's going on

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01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 2: with Hunter Green and the Cincinnati Reds. To bring you

2319
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 2: back up to speed quickly, Hunter Green has felt discomfort

2320
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 2: in his throwing arm, his throwing elbow. This is something

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01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 2: he dealt with at the end of last year. For

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01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 2: the last five or six games. It felt better during

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01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 2: the offseason. A week before camp got up and going,

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01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 2: he started feeling the discomfort again. So now he has

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01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 2: scheduled to come back. He's going to see the team doctor.

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01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 2: Doctor Timothy Kremchek, and then he's going out early next

2327
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 2: week to see doctor Neil Elatrosh for a second opinion.

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01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 2: There's a lot of thoughts about this that we can

2329
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 2: dive into. But as Austin and I were talking, who

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01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 2: better to talk to about this and any injury re

2331
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 2: questions that we have than our guy, Bob Manjean from

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01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,640
Speaker 2: the University of Cincinnati and novacare who joins us right now?

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01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 3: Bob, how are you doing, Tony?

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01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,799
Speaker 8: Getting ready leaf for Fort Worth, Texas to play our last.

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01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 3: Game of the year against tu How much does it

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01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 3: mean to you to be in a college campus that

2337
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 3: Andy Dalton dominated for so long, much like he dominated

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01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 8: Oh well, I don't know if I used the word

2340
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 8: dominated as Yeah, he meets the Steelers a couple of times.

2341
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 3: The what was he the redhead or the red rifle?

2342
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 3: Don't act like you forgot the red rifle?

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01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 7: That was it?

2344
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 6: The red rifle?

2345
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 8: How soon we forget nicknames of NFL quarterbacks, especially at

2346
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 8: the Bengal Poor.

2347
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 2: Bob's getting ready to talk about elbow injuries, and then

2348
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 2: he gets the red rifle thrown at him to start

2349
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 2: the segment.

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01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 3: We're keeping you on your toes. Bob, wake up, you

2351
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 3: gotta be ready to go.

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01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:50,719
Speaker 6: I'm awake, Tony.

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01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 3: All right, Bob. Let's dive through this last year.

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01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,719
Speaker 2: Hunter Green, over his last five or six starts, claims

2355
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,959
Speaker 2: that he had some discomfort in his elbow, some stiffness

2356
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 2: and the elbow. And then the off season came and

2357
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 2: that discomfort went away. I would think because he probably

2358
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 2: wasn't throwing as much, but I'm I'm not a doctor here,

2359
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 2: that's just my assumption. And then about a week before

2360
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:13,759
Speaker 2: spring training amp back up this year, he started feeling

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01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 2: to discomfort. Again, let's start at that level alone. If

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01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: this is something that Hunter Green was dealing with over

2363
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 2: his last five or six starts last year, is this

2364
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 2: something that you would be you would take time with

2365
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 2: in the off season, you would rest it, or would

2366
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 2: you think, okay, maybe let's just get it looked at

2367
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,000
Speaker 2: at the very minimum to make sure there's not more

2368
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 2: damage there that can linger into another year.

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01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 8: Well, again, I'm sure that you with you the red

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01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 8: staff and the excellent the support they have down there,

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01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 8: that they fully investigated where the potential pain was coming from.

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01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 6: And then once you get to the.

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Speaker 8: Off season, You're trying to figure out is this something

2374
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 8: that is a surgical correction or is this something that

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01:51:56,280 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 8: we want to do conservative management, And in most places

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01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 8: these guys get you know, two three opinions as far

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01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 8: as the best way to go. So I mean, but again,

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01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 8: like all pitchers, they have to have some period of

2379
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 8: recovery at the end of the season to where they

2380
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:13,679
Speaker 8: do shut down and just take a couple of weeks

2381
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 8: and let every kind of calm down. But then you

2382
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:20,879
Speaker 8: want to get into a rehab approach specifically for Pictures,

2383
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 8: which you know is different than obviously.

2384
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 6: Other players on the field, but you really want to.

2385
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 8: Look at, you know, getting them into a good strength program.

2386
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 8: And this is you know, if you look at the

2387
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 8: literature on owner colateral ligament injuries.

2388
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 6: In baseball overhead sports, you're.

2389
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 8: Looking at like it's a very high rate, very high rate.

2390
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 8: One in four high school pictures are going to have

2391
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 8: all their plateral issues. Ten percent of all youth Little

2392
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 8: League kids and some predict as high as fifty percent

2393
01:52:56,439 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 8: of Little League kids who pitched overpitch get pain just

2394
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 8: like the pros do so and they have to have

2395
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:05,759
Speaker 8: like the pros, they have to have an off season.

2396
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 8: But no matter when you go into your off season

2397
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,959
Speaker 8: rest period, you have to get into a good rehab program,

2398
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 8: and you have to get into a good strength program

2399
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 8: because with you going into a rest period and not

2400
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:23,640
Speaker 8: over or not training those muscle systems that require you

2401
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 8: to throw, then you know you're you're not going to

2402
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 8: be in good shape to come back and start throwing

2403
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 8: if you're not reconditioned. So you want to get reconditioned

2404
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 8: before you start throwing again. But again, until you actually

2405
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 8: start doing the function that you know cause the pain

2406
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 8: in the first place. So let's say somebody doesn't throw

2407
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 8: the whole off season and all they do is lift,

2408
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 8: then you know you're not going to know if you're

2409
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 8: going to have pain again until you actually do the

2410
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 8: function that resulted in.

2411
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 6: The pain or cause the pain.

2412
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 8: So the bottom line is even when and you know,

2413
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 8: I've had a couple of major league pictures in the

2414
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,719
Speaker 8: last couple of years I work with in the off season,

2415
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 8: and yeah, we went into a two to three week

2416
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 8: rest period, but then we have light, long toss throwing,

2417
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 8: progressive throwing. You know, throw a day off, a day

2418
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 8: light toss, a day, a little heavier toss, two days later.

2419
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 8: But all the while you're doing this, you are lifting,

2420
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:31,679
Speaker 8: You're working specifically for torqueing your body, because throwing his torque,

2421
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 8: if you did not have great dynamic support around the

2422
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 8: elbow from those intrinsic muscles in the arm, shoulder, back,

2423
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 8: you would tear your owner collateral ligament. Every time you

2424
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 8: throw a ball, you generate ten thousand newton torque around

2425
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 8: a force around that elbow. You would literally obliterate your

2426
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 8: owner collateral every time you threw if you didn't have

2427
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 8: strong enough muscle mature in the forearm, the shoulder.

2428
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 6: The back, the hips, and so you know that's.

2429
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 8: An each level tony in each level, Like you see

2430
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 8: these little kids in the Little League, their shoulder throwers,

2431
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 8: they don't have enough strength in their hips, they don't

2432
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 8: have enough strength in their back, to all of a

2433
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 8: sudden they developed shoulder and elbow problems. Because they need

2434
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 8: to get stronger, and in the off season that's the

2435
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 8: time to get stronger.

2436
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 2: I want to take a quote from Hunter Green yesterday,

2437
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 2: and again we don't know the ins and outs of this,

2438
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: but his words were, he had to discomfort last year

2439
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 2: they were in a playoff push. So he pushed through it.

2440
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 2: After the season, he felt fine, and he got an injection.

2441
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 2: Now we don't know what that injection would be specifically

2442
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 2: in the off season, but the extent of what he

2443
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 2: did in the off season was get an injection, and

2444
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 2: then he goes on to say a week before spring

2445
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 2: training the discomfort came back. So whatever the consensus was

2446
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 2: that they came to, an injection was on the list.

2447
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 2: If the injection doesn't work, what's the next step then

2448
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 2: for a player or a pitcher in the in Major

2449
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 2: League Baseball.

2450
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 8: Well, it depends on what you see on your objective

2451
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 8: testing that your MRI or or your X rays, and

2452
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 8: what you feel in your physical exam. So, but if

2453
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 8: they're continuing to complain of pain and they can't function,

2454
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 8: and you've gone through a six week conservative course of REHAMB,

2455
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 8: you know, some of these people face surgical intervention at

2456
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 8: the elbow to either remove bone spurs, to repair the

2457
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 8: ligament itself, to correct There's a muscle complex there called

2458
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 8: the flexer pronator masks.

2459
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 6: And I've seen guys.

2460
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 8: I had one guy I won't say where teams from,

2461
01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 8: but he had chronic overload to the flexer pernator mass

2462
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 8: they went in to bring into flexer pernator mass reattached

2463
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 8: it and you know, we rested him for four weeks then.

2464
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 6: Slowly brought them back.

2465
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 8: There's all kind of options in that medio elbow that

2466
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 8: these guys run into. You know, one of the common

2467
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 8: things are bone spurs, and so you have to if

2468
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 8: that's what they think is the cause, regardless.

2469
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 4: Of the age.

2470
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 8: You know, one of our athletes here at you.

2471
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 6: See at the end of the season had to.

2472
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 8: Have a scope to remove some bone spurs and hopefully

2473
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 8: he'll be able to get back to front without as

2474
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 8: issues after that.

2475
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 2: So that would be my follow up question because Hunter

2476
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 2: goes on to say that as of now there's no

2477
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 2: UCL damage, but he did openly say that he knows

2478
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 2: he has bone spurs in the elbow. So my question

2479
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 2: would be, if he knows there are bone spurs, should

2480
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 2: those already have been addressed, or if they now choose

2481
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 2: to go and address the bone spurs, how long are

2482
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 2: you thinking before a guy can get back up to

2483
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 2: pitching in Major League Baseball?

2484
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 8: And that's completely individually based, and so can you get

2485
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 8: in there and remove those bone spurs?

2486
01:57:58,200 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 12: Yes?

2487
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 8: Can he success or any athlete successfully come back and

2488
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 8: throw after bone spur removal.

2489
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 6: Of the answers.

2490
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 8: Yes, but everybody's an individual because you've got to consider,

2491
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 8: you know, their total body, where they are strength wise

2492
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 8: and range emotion wise.

2493
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 4: And the other thing is if you look at a thrower.

2494
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 8: And this is a Japanese study about ten years ago,

2495
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 8: and the reason that they have such interesting data is

2496
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 8: that the problem becomes the rising incident of these owner collaterals.

2497
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 8: Some of it is bony change and bones for changes.

2498
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 8: And they looked at little leaguers in Japan and by

2499
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 8: the time they were fourteen, the kids that were pitching

2500
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 8: because they have year around baseball. The worst thing ever

2501
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 8: happened in America is indoor facilities and year around throwing

2502
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 8: and year around baseball. The orthopedic surgeons love it because

2503
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 8: it's creating so many patients in these little kids. You know,

2504
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 8: this specialization by the time they're eight, nine, ten years

2505
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 8: old is an absolute travesty. Let the kid play other

2506
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 8: sports and see, you know, give their elbow arrest. Let

2507
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 8: them go play frigging basketball or something. But the problem

2508
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 8: became that sixty nine, sixty eight or sixty nine percent

2509
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 8: of the kids by the time they were twelve showed

2510
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 8: bony changes from the year around throwing, and so there's

2511
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 8: no doubt when you get to the MLB level, you

2512
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 8: know you are going to see bony changes. And the

2513
01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 8: question is how you address them. And one way you

2514
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 8: can address them, my guess is through injection.

2515
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2516
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 8: Another way is through conservative management. I'm sure people are

2517
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 8: trying PRPs. I'm sure people are trying all kinds of things,

2518
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 8: but if it's not working.

2519
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 6: Then at some point you potentially have to go in

2520
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 6: there and.

2521
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 8: Clean them out and then put them back on a

2522
01:59:55,880 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 8: progressive return to play at pathway.

2523
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 3: The other thing I was wondering about this Bob is

2524
02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 3: Hunter Green did have Tommy John surgery in twenty nineteen.

2525
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 3: What's the shelf life of a surgery like that.

2526
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 4: At that level?

2527
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 6: What was it two years ago at the.

2528
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 8: Andrews Institute Baseball meeting, somewhere in the neighborhood of about

2529
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 8: seven years? I think they reported them in or eight years.

2530
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 8: So you know, you start looking at the fact that

2531
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 8: if you have the surgery, the surgery leads the star

2532
02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 8: tissue you've got, You're you're putting soft tissue anchors in

2533
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 8: there to keep the ligament stable. Nowadays they do you know,

2534
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 8: they use another tissue and they're with it to on

2535
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 8: minute and it gets.

2536
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 6: You back faster, but you're still overloading. Sure, And it's.

2537
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 8: Basically you know, the number one cause it in all

2538
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 8: sports right now is the fact that you're getting a

2539
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 8: lack of rest, constant loading. And you know, these these

2540
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:06,440
Speaker 8: younger kids especially, but again when you're I don't know

2541
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,160
Speaker 8: how old he is, but you know, when you get

2542
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:13,360
Speaker 8: into a certain age group, you know you're you're throwing ability.

2543
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 8: He starts to deteriorate. People like Ryan or Nolan. Ryan,

2544
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:21,640
Speaker 8: he's a freak. Okay, Bob Gibson, They're freaks.

2545
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:22,000
Speaker 7: You know.

2546
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:25,400
Speaker 8: I was very, very fortunate back I can't remember what

2547
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:28,600
Speaker 8: year it was where I got to to conservatively treat

2548
02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 8: a guy named Tom Seaver and you know, he's it

2549
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 8: was incredible what his shoulder looked like at his age

2550
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:37,840
Speaker 8: by the time I got to treat him when he

2551
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 8: was with the reds Uh. He came over when I

2552
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 8: was with Cincinnatye Sports Medicine and you know, get him

2553
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 8: stretched out and strengthen some and what he could do

2554
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 8: with his shoulder was humble it, which is why he

2555
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 8: was still, you know, in his thirties throwing. So these

2556
02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 8: when when I see a little League kid and the

2557
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:57,800
Speaker 8: parents look at me and say, you know, I want

2558
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 8: my kid to be the next Nolan Ryan or or whoever,

2559
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 8: it's like, well, you know, hopefully you know he's got

2560
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 8: something that's DNA and them, because Dolan Ryan was a

2561
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 8: friggin freak. And you know how many forty two year

2562
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 8: olds can throw a ninety eight mile an arm fastball.

2563
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have an end of one that I know of.

2564
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:18,960
Speaker 2: The last I would ask for page. The last I

2565
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 2: would ask upon this is Hunter Green multiple time set.

2566
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 2: As of right now, the UCL is intact. As of

2567
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:26,960
Speaker 2: right now, the UCLs in good shape. Do you run

2568
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 2: the risk even though the UCL is clean right now,

2569
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:31,720
Speaker 2: if you don't take care of this, of that becoming

2570
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 2: more of an issue? Is that something where these things

2571
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 2: are connected.

2572
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 8: Well, especially if you change your mechanics at all, especially

2573
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 8: if you know, the worst nightmare for a picture is

2574
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 8: I have pain or I am discomfort in one aspect

2575
02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 8: of my elbow. So I'm going to kind of change

2576
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 8: a mechanic a little bit and the next thing, you know,

2577
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:52,480
Speaker 8: you do put an extra overload either on the flexi

2578
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 8: pronator mass or a little extra overload on the ultern

2579
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:59,400
Speaker 8: collateral ligament, and now it is starting to be a problem.

2580
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 8: So you know, again, the ligaments change over time. Okay,

2581
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 8: it's there's a thing called Wolf's law. A tissue underload,

2582
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:14,800
Speaker 8: any tissue vast or underload can change over time. Ligaments

2583
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 8: can get thicker, Ligaments can stretch.

2584
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 6: Bony tissue.

2585
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 8: For example, we ever see the picture that can't straighten

2586
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 8: the room all the way out? That has nothing to

2587
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 8: do with the ligaments. And I remember you when you

2588
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 8: throw in football, you know you had difficulty getting extension

2589
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 8: in your arm because you develop little bony spurs that

2590
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:39,280
Speaker 8: prevent you from getting it all the way straight because

2591
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 8: you're isn't comfortable all the way in extension whenever you're

2592
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:47,879
Speaker 8: throwing right. And that adaptation occurs somewhere between sixteen, seventeen,

2593
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 8: eighteen years of age. It doesn't occur when you're twenty

2594
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 8: five or thirty. It's already there, so you know, and

2595
02:03:55,840 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 8: again those are little bony changes because of Wolf what

2596
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 8: we call Wolff law. And now that puts extra strains

2597
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:07,600
Speaker 8: somewhere else because you're you don't have full range of

2598
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 8: motion yeah, does that make sense.

2599
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:13,839
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is Bob Mangean sifting through the latest

2600
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 2: with Hunter Green and the Cincinnati Reds. Bob, you're getting

2601
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 2: ready to head to TCU. It is it's a testament

2602
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,080
Speaker 2: to what this team has done because they've played themselves

2603
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:27,360
Speaker 2: into a conversation. So best of luck on the road

2604
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:29,680
Speaker 2: and go get one more. Let's make this thing interesting

2605
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:30,120
Speaker 2: next week.

2606
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 6: Thanks Bob, and we're going to sure try Tony.

2607
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 8: So you guys have a good weekend and try to

2608
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:39,880
Speaker 8: stay dry because it's you know, all the roads are

2609
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:43,080
Speaker 8: flying baby. Never it's the great slot of twenty six.

2610
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 4: Never a doll moment.

2611
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 2: That is Bob Manjean from the University of Cincinnati and Novacare. Bob,

2612
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 2: thanks so much for your time. We'll talk again next week.

2613
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 6: You're welcome.

2614
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 3: Guys, have a good day from.

2615
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:58,600
Speaker 2: Traveling to the game, walking to your seats, and partaking

2616
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:01,280
Speaker 2: in postgame celebration. Your body can take a beating from

2617
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 2: all the activity on game day. At Novacare Rehabilitation, they

2618
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:06,720
Speaker 2: understand how important it is for fans to be there

2619
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 2: to root for their team. Through the power of physical therapy,

2620
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 2: you don't need to let eggs pains or injury keep

2621
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:13,440
Speaker 2: you from the game. Find a center near you today

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02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 2: at novacare dot com. Our three rolls on next on

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02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 2: ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Wow, now it's time for quick hits. On Tony Tykes

2625
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 1: Sincy three sixty.

2626
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:30,840
Speaker 4: Was looking for Mo mo Is.

2627
02:05:31,160 --> 02:05:34,040
Speaker 2: He's good year Mo right now. Moe's getting ready to

2628
02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 2: settle in Austin. I would imagine first pitch at three o'clock.

2629
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:39,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna say.

2630
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 2: Today, Yeah, not only drinking hand, but a preview of

2631
02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 2: you know, the the NLDS. Sure between the Dodgers and

2632
02:05:47,760 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 2: the Reds. So Moe's out and Chad Brendle's in, And

2633
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 2: after talking to Keg and Nickoson, I can confirm it

2634
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 2: seems like Chad has calmed down. You're you're less fired up.

2635
02:05:59,200 --> 02:05:59,960
Speaker 4: When was I fired?

2636
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 26: He just said you were fired up. On Tuesday night

2637
02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:05,400
Speaker 26: against by Oh, I was Tony Padilla had an awful game.

2638
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 26: He did an awful game.

2639
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 2: I've never seen a game at the under sixteen timeout

2640
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:11,320
Speaker 2: with nine total fouls called.

2641
02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:14,280
Speaker 26: Yeah, he had a I mean there were six calls,

2642
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 26: just blatantly. Three of them got overturned. Yeah, And it

2643
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:22,240
Speaker 26: wasn't just Cincinnati right on both sides.

2644
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:24,520
Speaker 4: On both sides. He was just terrible.

2645
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you yelling at the officials? Chit, that was

2646
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 3: Ai Austin. But just to confirm you, at no point

2647
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:36,680
Speaker 3: during the game yelled at any officials from where you sit.

2648
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,280
Speaker 3: That's correct, Okay, I just wanted to be sure.

2649
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 4: I did.

2650
02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:44,200
Speaker 26: At one point where the day day Thomas block shot

2651
02:06:44,240 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 26: where he came from behind, Yeah, cleanly blocked the shot.

2652
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2653
02:06:48,160 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 26: I excused myself from the media section and I took

2654
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:52,480
Speaker 26: a walk in the concourse.

2655
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:54,480
Speaker 2: That was like right after he got called with a

2656
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 2: a foul on de Bonstaff. Yeah, for just standing standing

2657
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 2: his ground. Yeah, yeah, I just took it. I took

2658
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 2: a walk.

2659
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 4: I didn't yell at anybody. I just think he's terrible. Yeah.

2660
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 26: I also heard there was a five minute apology before

2661
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:14,600
Speaker 26: the game. He was so bad in the previous BYU

2662
02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 26: game that he had done that he went to Kevin

2663
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 26: Young and apologized for five minutes for how bad he

2664
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:22,920
Speaker 26: was the last time he called.

2665
02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:25,440
Speaker 3: By helped because Kevin Kevin Young wasn't happy during the

2666
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:25,920
Speaker 3: game either.

2667
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 5: He was.

2668
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 26: He was terrible both ways. The guy's awful. I don't

2669
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 26: understand did did you see Doug Sermons. My other guy

2670
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:38,840
Speaker 26: that I Doug Sermons, Kip Kissinger, Tony Padilla are on

2671
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:39,680
Speaker 26: Mount Rushmore.

2672
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 3: Those three Kip Kissinger is on the Mount Freshmore of names,

2673
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 3: that's an awesome name.

2674
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 26: Did you see you didn't see Sermons kick out Bill self? Yes,

2675
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 26: he came running from out of nowhere. Wasn't involved in

2676
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 26: the conversation.

2677
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 4: That's his moment though.

2678
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 26: Two seconds he not only gave him one tee, but

2679
02:07:57,640 --> 02:08:00,920
Speaker 26: he gave him an automatic two teas, threw him out

2680
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 26: and then we had one of the best moments in

2681
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 26: college sports this season. As Bill self was walking off

2682
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 26: the Arizona State House, crew hit the smoke the fog

2683
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 26: machine as Bill Self was walking off the court.

2684
02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:17,920
Speaker 2: I hate bed officials they're making And it's not like

2685
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:20,480
Speaker 2: it's it was like you said, it was bad both.

2686
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 2: It's not like, hey, I'm a Cincinnati like not being

2687
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 2: a home be good at your jobs, sidious.

2688
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 4: He has worked.

2689
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:31,440
Speaker 26: Tony Padilla has worked one hundred college basketball games at

2690
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:35,879
Speaker 26: roughly three thousand dollars a game. He's made three hundred

2691
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 26: thousand dollars to do that since November.

2692
02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:40,240
Speaker 4: Any stinks to do that.

2693
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:43,640
Speaker 26: That should be called out. Do coaches get paid a

2694
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 26: lot of money? Do we call them out when they stink?

2695
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 5: They do?

2696
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 26: Players now and players make money, we called them out?

2697
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:51,200
Speaker 26: Tony Padilla is fair game.

2698
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 2: I've always been one that that officials should have to

2699
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 2: sit at a podium after a game immediately and answer

2700
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 2: the questions like coaches and players.

2701
02:08:56,960 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that to me would be explain the foul on?

2702
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:02,760
Speaker 26: Since Harris when he knocked the ball away from aj Debanza,

2703
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:07,400
Speaker 26: yea hustled dove on the floor while Debanza stood there

2704
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:08,760
Speaker 26: and watched, And it's.

2705
02:09:08,720 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 4: A foul on.

2706
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:13,120
Speaker 2: Sincere Harris, thank you, thank you? How what else you

2707
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:14,640
Speaker 2: got coming up on the show today? Now that I

2708
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 2: got your I got the blood flowing? What else you

2709
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 2: got coming up? We're gonna talk some bearcats.

2710
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:24,760
Speaker 26: So bubble bubble they're they're at They're at forty four

2711
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 26: percent odds to make the NCAA Tournament. If they win Saturday,

2712
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:33,640
Speaker 26: watch party, Holy Grail Saturday two o'clock.

2713
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, if they win, that jumps to

2714
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:36,560
Speaker 4: seventy percent.

2715
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:40,360
Speaker 2: I saw right now DraftKings plus one thirty five to

2716
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 2: make the NCAA Tournament.

2717
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:43,080
Speaker 4: That was what was it a month ago?

2718
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:44,680
Speaker 3: Plus twenty thousand.

2719
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 4: It was a lot.

2720
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:48,240
Speaker 2: Even as close as to last week, I think it

2721
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:51,080
Speaker 2: was still like plus four fifty yeah, plus one thirty five.

2722
02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:51,440
Speaker 5: Right now.

2723
02:09:51,480 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 26: It's incredible what they've done. And not just they're they're

2724
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:58,200
Speaker 26: outside of Utah, which was just as big because that

2725
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:00,440
Speaker 26: was a game they have lost a five years for

2726
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 26: five years. Yep, down five with ninety seconds left. That's

2727
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 26: a wrap run nine, oh, run, win the game. They're

2728
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,160
Speaker 26: beating the pants off everybody else.

2729
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 5: Yep.

2730
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 4: And big opportunity Saturday or not.

2731
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 26: If you don't capitalize Saturday, for sure, I mean then

2732
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 26: you'd have to win the Big or make the Big

2733
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:22,880
Speaker 26: twelve tournament finals or do something crazy. But man, the

2734
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:26,640
Speaker 26: conversation at four fifteen on Saturday if they win, yeah,

2735
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 26: gets very interesting around this team.

2736
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:30,040
Speaker 3: It gets very interesting. So we'll talk some of that.

2737
02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:32,920
Speaker 3: I'll I see you had Travis on early deals all

2738
02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:33,160
Speaker 3: to day.

2739
02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:34,080
Speaker 4: I didn't. I was driving.

2740
02:10:34,160 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 26: I was hoping I could make it here to say hi,

2741
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 26: massive one tomorrow night. Massive tomorrow night for them, that

2742
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:41,520
Speaker 26: atmosphere should be bonkers. I hope they do it, I

2743
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 26: really do. I hope they they get it. And and

2744
02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:50,640
Speaker 26: look thirty one and oh unbelievable and for them for

2745
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:55,760
Speaker 26: their sake, if they don't win the MAC Tournament and

2746
02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 26: they're thirty one, and oh, I think you have to

2747
02:10:57,560 --> 02:10:57,960
Speaker 26: put them in.

2748
02:10:58,120 --> 02:10:59,640
Speaker 4: If you don't win tomorrow night and they lose in

2749
02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:01,040
Speaker 4: the MAC TOURNAMENTO.

2750
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:04,040
Speaker 26: Then your then your resume really starts to get Then

2751
02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:06,200
Speaker 26: you open a door scrutinized, and then you open a door.

2752
02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 26: And that's not great. But I do have they do

2753
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 26: have a thing that that bothers me a little bit.

2754
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:16,480
Speaker 26: They say they couldn't find a game. They couldn't they

2755
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 26: couldn't find any games.

2756
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 4: I saw this.

2757
02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 26: Every team in the MAC outside of Miami played at

2758
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:25,760
Speaker 26: least one Power five opponent.

2759
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 3: I wish Eastern Michigan had not. That's fair, that's fair, But.

2760
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:33,240
Speaker 26: Every team in the MAC besides Miami, the problem with

2761
02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:38,800
Speaker 26: their resume is more that they played three non Division

2762
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 26: one sure opponents. If they put that on the sheet,

2763
02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 26: they we've only got twenty eight games here.

2764
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:48,080
Speaker 4: What what happened? That I think is going to be

2765
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 4: big for them?

2766
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 26: I think, And look, I don't think there was anybody

2767
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 26: at Miami Tony because schools like Miami schools in the MAC,

2768
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 26: they look they're one bid leagues. They're not getting in

2769
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:00,160
Speaker 26: that large. They look at it and say, we have

2770
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:01,880
Speaker 26: to be ready for March. We have to be ready

2771
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 26: to win the conference tournament if we're going to make

2772
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 26: the n C DOUBLEA. Travis Steele, nor the ad nor

2773
02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 26: anyone at Miami sat down in the preseason and said,

2774
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 26: we're going to be thirty one, thirty and oh and

2775
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:15,160
Speaker 26: our resume, our metrics might matter.

2776
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:15,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2777
02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 26: That that's not the mindset that they work from, right,

2778
02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 26: So you know, I hope, I hope they get it

2779
02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:24,640
Speaker 26: done tomorrow night they're thirty one and oh and then

2780
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 26: a lot of it the talk goes, and then we

2781
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:30,680
Speaker 26: get Miami, Cincinnati and Dayton. Okay, I was hoping. What

2782
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:35,920
Speaker 26: I was really hoping for was UCLA, Cincinnati and Dayton.

2783
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2784
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:41,080
Speaker 2: Do you ever win over Nebraska? Would you fans rather

2785
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:43,560
Speaker 2: see UCLA and Dayton or Miami and Dayton?

2786
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:44,160
Speaker 4: Miami?

2787
02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:48,520
Speaker 26: Yeah, UCLA's pretty I mean, they've they've gotten some good wins.

2788
02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:50,840
Speaker 3: Would they rather see Miami or ku.

2789
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 4: U n Ku?

2790
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, man I do.

2791
02:12:56,280 --> 02:13:00,680
Speaker 4: Nor's flamed tough, Okay, Okay, but.

2792
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 26: We're gonna talk some reds, Okay, Hunter Green, we don't

2793
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:05,840
Speaker 26: know we'll get more next week.

2794
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:07,280
Speaker 3: Can they survive this?

2795
02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 26: Like this is we're already at the first test because

2796
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 26: guess what, they're out of money. Everybody wanted au Haineo Suarez.

2797
02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:17,080
Speaker 26: Sure they went over budget, they got au Haneo Suarez.

2798
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 26: Now you're down your number one. They can't go out

2799
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:22,400
Speaker 26: and find a replacement. They're not going to be able

2800
02:13:22,440 --> 02:13:27,760
Speaker 26: to bring in a frontline starting pitch point. At this point,

2801
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:31,000
Speaker 26: are you ready? Are Chase Burns and Rhet Louder or

2802
02:13:31,080 --> 02:13:37,480
Speaker 26: Williamson or whatever? Are you able to handle what's coming?

2803
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:42,560
Speaker 26: We'll talk some Bengals little free agency talk. Dan Horde

2804
02:13:42,680 --> 02:13:45,480
Speaker 26: on the show. Let's go Jeff ff car second day

2805
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:45,880
Speaker 26: in a row.

2806
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 4: Love it.

2807
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:51,560
Speaker 3: If they just played Cuba every day, they could survive

2808
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:53,200
Speaker 3: not having Hunter Greens. I think you might be able

2809
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:55,480
Speaker 3: to get off the head off Cuba. Thank you, Chad.

2810
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:58,680
Speaker 3: That is how we will end this show today. Chad

2811
02:13:58,720 --> 02:13:59,720
Speaker 3: Brendle is up next.

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