WEBVTT - Second Date Update: He Felt Mislead

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<v Speaker 1>It's the second date update module in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you not getting a callback after you went

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<v Speaker 2>on a date? We're going to find out right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura went on a date. First off, how did you

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<v Speaker 2>guys meet Laura? Hey, Laura, Laura?

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<v Speaker 3>Did I lose you? Laura? Please tell me I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>lose you, Laura. I've never heard you sound like that, Laura. Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>Does she look like she's there a Zach?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, Laura, did you meet yourself here? Pick up

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<v Speaker 2>and see if Laura is there, and if not, we

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<v Speaker 2>may be in trouble. Maybe she got cold feet and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go on the air with us. We've

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<v Speaker 2>had that happen to us a couple of times. We

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<v Speaker 2>do have Will, who went on a date with Laura

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<v Speaker 2>on with us. Will are you there?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey?

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<v Speaker 4>What's up? Yeah? I'm here?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey? Will?

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<v Speaker 2>She got scared, which makes me even more fearful of

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<v Speaker 2>what happened on the date. What did you guys do

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<v Speaker 2>on your date?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, went to a bar. We uh, had a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of drinks, talked a little bit. We went back to

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<v Speaker 4>my place and that was the extent of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Did anything happen when you went to your place?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, honestly, not what I was expecting. But she's back.

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<v Speaker 3>She's back, She's back. Hold on a second here, all right, Laura, Yes, Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura.

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<v Speaker 5>You couldn't hear me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, So it wasn't that you were getting scared.

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<v Speaker 2>So Laura, Laura said, how to Will? Hi?

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<v Speaker 6>Will?

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<v Speaker 5>How are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? How are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm great?

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<v Speaker 2>So Will was explaining to us how you guys went

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<v Speaker 2>back to his place, and then Will kind of said

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<v Speaker 2>that things kind of stopped right there. And I want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you what happened? What, Laura, what do what

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<v Speaker 2>do you remember happening that night?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a great time.

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<v Speaker 5>You went on a date and we came back to

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<v Speaker 5>his place and just you know, ho hung out a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit, had a little bit of kissing, and that

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<v Speaker 5>was it and we had a great time. And then

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<v Speaker 5>I don't hear from him anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't know why? So Will? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did things end with you not calling her back?

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<v Speaker 2>And also what happened when you were at your place

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<v Speaker 2>that that caused for you not to call her back?

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't anything that happened. It was like, what didn't happen?

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<v Speaker 4>She was being very forward. Before the date, she was

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<v Speaker 4>like sexting me basically, so I just kind of expected

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<v Speaker 4>something else was going to happen. I mean she was

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<v Speaker 4>asking me like very explicit questions. She was like, do

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<v Speaker 4>you like full bush? Do you want to show?

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<v Speaker 5>That?

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<v Speaker 3>Came out on nowhere?

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<v Speaker 2>So that so you guys, so so Laura, you were

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<v Speaker 2>talking to him about your grooming and talking to.

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<v Speaker 5>Him very dramatic. He's exaggerating that. First of all, No,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I am a little maybe a little flirty

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<v Speaker 5>or on text for sure, I'm kind of shy in person,

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<v Speaker 5>but I don't he's being He's exaggerating.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean exaggerating that. Yeah, explain the exaggeration part.

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<v Speaker 5>I I mean maybe I just you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a little flirty on text. By he's acting like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm like so forward and crazy. That's not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were sexty in a little bit, but then

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<v Speaker 2>when you went back, uh to you Will some.

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<v Speaker 7>Thinger flirting though, because I feel like we're getting two

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<v Speaker 7>different versions of the story.

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<v Speaker 5>Right to me, it's flirting to me, what did.

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<v Speaker 3>You and Will?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think you don't have to get into anything?

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<v Speaker 2>But why besides her talking about how she grooms herself,

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<v Speaker 2>was she talking about what she wanted you guys to

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<v Speaker 2>do with each other?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, were you?

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<v Speaker 1>Laura?

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<v Speaker 4>I need I need to know these things because of

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<v Speaker 4>what I've got planned. I mean, like, I think nothing's

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen when someone says something like that, Laura,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what you.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, I may have I'll have to go back and

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<v Speaker 5>look at exactly what was said.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, all right, So so that happens before you

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<v Speaker 2>guys go back and then well, I'm assuming nothing happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're now disappointed over the fact that nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, nothing happened other than just making out a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit, and like that's fine, that would have been fine.

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<v Speaker 4>But like when you're I don't know that like just

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of a tease. I'm just not interested

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<v Speaker 4>in like being kind of jerked around like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the reason it was the first date.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you did you try to say things further and

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<v Speaker 6>she denied you or no?

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, Wait to take the lead because of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Time, I mean, when she's yeah, when she's sending me

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<v Speaker 4>texts like that, I figure she's got a plan. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna let her execute that plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So why don't you why don't you ask her

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<v Speaker 2>for another date and then maybe that becomes the next

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you guys end up doing, or maybe it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you at least explore.

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<v Speaker 4>No? I mean, because, like I said, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>kind of felt like being jerked around and I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>not into that, not into like tease, like, so I

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<v Speaker 4>just was like, cut my losses. I'm not that into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're thinking to yourself, Hey, everything seemed like we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to, you know, be having sex with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't happen on the first date. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to give it a second date. I'm not even gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give her another chance to get a second date.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it just didn't seem worth it. It felt like

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<v Speaker 4>a weird, weird way to start things off.

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<v Speaker 2>So Okay, so I'm going to ask the listeners, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask everybody around the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, we'll go around the room and ask your thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>a four to four Ojoe Live.

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<v Speaker 2>If she's sending text messages that lead to him believing

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<v Speaker 2>that they are going to have sex, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>it on the first date. Do you think that he

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<v Speaker 2>is in the wrong for not wanting another date and

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<v Speaker 2>giving another chance. I think he is. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would at least give it another date. Especially did you

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy her, like being with her and hanging out with her?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was fine. I mean I was not like

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<v Speaker 4>bowled over. It was fine. There was nothing, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like your answer would be very different if

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<v Speaker 7>the end of the date went differently, Like to me,

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<v Speaker 7>it's coming across as and yes, did she lead you

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<v Speaker 7>on a little bit? Yeah, I think we could all

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<v Speaker 7>acknowledge that. But it comes across to me that you

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<v Speaker 7>only wanted one thing, and because you didn't get it,

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<v Speaker 7>you're like, I'm kicking my ball and I'm going home.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want anything to do with her anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>No. No, if she had said nothing, I would have

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<v Speaker 4>been like, she's a cool girl, and we made out

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit and maybe I'll check out what a

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<v Speaker 4>second date would be like. But again, it like it's

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<v Speaker 4>a I think it's I actually think it's like weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But you like you.

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<v Speaker 7>What I'm saying is you liked her enough, though to

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<v Speaker 7>want something to happen, and you're disappointed that it didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm again, I'm not really disappointed that it didn't. I

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<v Speaker 4>could live with it either way. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>weird thing to send such forward text messages and then

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<v Speaker 4>show up and act totally different. It was the technolages. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>what a lot, They're a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Vicky comment from you?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think Will's got to go?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, dude, you got to go?

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<v Speaker 1>That's like red flag behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, because he's from Well, I think he was expecting

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<v Speaker 3>to just have like a hook up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was ever expecting more based on.

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<v Speaker 4>The text.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, though, Laura, because obviously you

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<v Speaker 2>think that Will's in the wrong. Was Laura at all

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong and being too forward in her texting?

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<v Speaker 1>I that I wouldn't know. It just depends on the person.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people are like that, some people aren't.

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<v Speaker 7>I think too forward is the wrong phrase. But misleading

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<v Speaker 7>is probably a great word, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, that could be.

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<v Speaker 8>But also, nobody should expect anything one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 6>And if you're communicating that something's gonna happen. Though, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>I think the only reason we're kind of viewing it

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<v Speaker 6>from this way of misleading is.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's sexually related. If it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Anything else that she put forth an expectation for and

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<v Speaker 6>didn't follow through, I think we'd be having a different conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>He wants what was promised, I guess, and because it

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't promised, he's kind of like, all right, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe this is a sign of how she operates. Is

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<v Speaker 6>this just a tale of who she is where she

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<v Speaker 6>says something is going to happen and it doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have given her a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Date, but I just assume that there's always flirtation, like

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<v Speaker 2>she's texting to him, But I would not assume that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting, you know, anything at that moment past that

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<v Speaker 2>I would say if I'm into her, I'm asking for

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<v Speaker 2>another date obviously, But they have Bush talk. They did

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<v Speaker 2>talk Bush what's going on? Jennifer?

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, Hi there, I first time, long time.

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<v Speaker 5>The flo.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, I just wanted to make a little comment here.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, there's a problem with I think expecting to

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<v Speaker 8>get laid on a first date, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>men seem to, you know, think that this is where

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<v Speaker 8>things are at these days. So what she sent some

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<v Speaker 8>flirty text messages, that doesn't mean she has to have

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<v Speaker 8>sex with him. That night. Having sex with someone is

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<v Speaker 8>like kind of an intimate thing, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 8>she could be flirty. A lot of people are flirty.

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<v Speaker 8>Men are flirty, women are flirty, But that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 8>that someone has to you know, put out on the

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<v Speaker 8>first date like and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that is and that she obviously was affectionate with him.

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<v Speaker 2>They cast and did what other stuff. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there there is a little bit of an

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<v Speaker 2>expectation that he has or thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>That he wanted.

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<v Speaker 6>His expectation didn't just come out of the blue, and

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<v Speaker 6>we don't have the text message in front of us,

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<v Speaker 6>or it's hard for us to decide exactly what was

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<v Speaker 6>said and what he should have expected. But if we're

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<v Speaker 6>taking what he's saying at phase value as the truth,

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<v Speaker 6>then she communicated in such a way where he felt

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<v Speaker 6>that she was ready to go there, and when he

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<v Speaker 6>showed up, he was expecting her to go there and

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<v Speaker 6>she didn't go.

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<v Speaker 2>But but maybe he should have expected that. Maybe her

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<v Speaker 2>thing was she was just gonna get kiss him and

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<v Speaker 2>do all that stuff, and maybe he's got to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's a to be continued, and maybe episode number

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<v Speaker 2>two is when they end up doing that. But he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want an episode number two. He wants this to

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<v Speaker 2>be a one night and that's it. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know?

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<v Speaker 6>Hello?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hunter? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 8>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>I was more excitement than Will got from Laura. What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's to play in the wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't. I think he was set up for it.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you?

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<v Speaker 5>How can you really haven't been wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>You think about it this way. If my girl tells me, hey, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna make you some nice chicken cutlets to get Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I got Chef Boy r D and McNuggets?

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<v Speaker 1>How about be bad?

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<v Speaker 4>That's not what I was told there was.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the plan going?

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<v Speaker 2>So this man was expecting that he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>get himself chick chicken cutlets and instead he got a

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<v Speaker 2>can of Chef Boy r D.

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<v Speaker 4>You're saying that's what we're working with here, are we?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Well? I don't know, Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get laid the first time all the time

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<v Speaker 2>that you're out because you sound like a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>is away with your words?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I really don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if I get it? Hey, we're hell, aren't we?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? I kind of like, what's up, Joe?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you guys doing? What'd you want to say?

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<v Speaker 4>Joe? I, I just have a quick little snippet for

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<v Speaker 4>you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm pretty sure here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>This girl texted her.

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<v Speaker 2>Texted him a bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>They got into it and the text he went out.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't perform and didn't close the deal, and now

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<v Speaker 1>he's upset about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it sounded to me like he wasn't able to perform,

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<v Speaker 2>so he didn't get to even do a performance.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't interested in performing. I'm all set. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>about that. It was about the text that came in before.

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<v Speaker 4>It's weird to me once again, I will say I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not interested in having sex with this girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't then.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's weird that she was so forward in

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<v Speaker 4>her text messages and then a completely different person when

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<v Speaker 4>we actually met. That's the issue here.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I like his perspective, because how could it be

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<v Speaker 5>all my fault? Maybe I didn't like how you were

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<v Speaker 5>handling things.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but you're the one wondering why you've been ghosted,

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<v Speaker 4>so you're obviously the one who hasn't let it go.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, because why would why I never promised anything. I

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<v Speaker 5>never promised anything on the first date, So for you

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<v Speaker 5>to expect that, I mean, maybe I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>In So then before a first date, why would you

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<v Speaker 4>send me such messages? I mean if people saw them,

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<v Speaker 4>I think they'd have a different story.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you have, you have to earn the other side

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<v Speaker 5>of me, so just you get there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's unfortunate for you.

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<v Speaker 4>So far as to go on the radio. You're the

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<v Speaker 4>one who felt, oh, I gotta go on the radio

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<v Speaker 4>to figure this out. Well and I and I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 5>I did because now I see who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm glad I did. Jeff, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>So I got I gotta defend my boy? Will? Like

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<v Speaker 1>so I know, like the thing it's gotta it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to drop. I think it's the personality change. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I see. Is weird. Like so like you're expecting the

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<v Speaker 1>vibe that's in the text, you get a completely different

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<v Speaker 1>persons like a team moo switch.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the way, shout out to our callers and

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<v Speaker 2>Lydia and these these are the best second date update

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<v Speaker 2>callers we've had in a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it a nice round of applause, But it sounds excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>The team reference to Chef Boy r D reference, those

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<v Speaker 2>are unbelievable. But I, after hearing Laura and Will go

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth, I think you guys both got the

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<v Speaker 2>answer that you're looking for. And I think, honestly, Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've got to be walking away from this

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<v Speaker 2>happy that you got your answer because now you can

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<v Speaker 2>just move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm happy about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Thanks guys, we appreciate it. By Will, I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate you, guys,