1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: We head out to the Kiwi Common Spirit Health Hotline 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: and bring on Ian Rapaport, our NFL Network Insider powered 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: by Chevron. Chevron the human energy company committed to our 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Ian. 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, How are you? 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: What's going on? How you guys doing? 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: We appreciate your time, man, So big game here yesterday. Obviously, 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: the Broncos beat the Packers, two really good teams going 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: at it from a national perspective, As best you can 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: sort of put in into words, what what does this 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: win mean nationally speaking? If anything for the. 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Broncos, I mean, I feel like it means as much 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: as kind of they all do, which is just continue 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: to re emphasize how good this team is, you know, 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: And I think like, like it really has gone from like, hey, 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 2: the Broncos might have a shot to like, all right, 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: they like really one of the best teams. And each 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: time they do this, it's sort of like, all right, 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: they really really is a couple different sort of iterations 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: of this season. Right, that was like the this defense 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: is great and bon Nicks is kind of along for 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: the ride, and it's like this team is winning somehow 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: close games, but his bonis good enough. And I think 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: we've kind of reached the point where it's like they 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: might just be all the way good, which brutally fascinating, 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: I would say, and. 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: Kind of cool, a little out of schedule again, but. 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: Very very fun to watch, and I think everyone has 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: taking notice. 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 5: You know, the game was Sunday was somewhat of a 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 5: playoff type atmosphere, and I thought this was a great 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 5: test for the Broncos against a team like the Green 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 5: Bay Packers. After watching that game and looking at the highlights, 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 5: do you feel right now that this Broncos team, this 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 5: this iteration of this team, they can win a Super Bowl? 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I don't really see why not. 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, things can change when the stakes 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: get really, really high. I just don't know. 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: That I've seen anything where I would say like, well, 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: you know, this team isn't good enough here, Like what 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: would that be? You know, like seriously, what would that be? 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: I mean they have all the things, you know I 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: mentioned injury on the back end, like okay, but they 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: have depth there. They lost their running back okay, but 46 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: they have another really good one. The quarterback is especially 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: when it's all been on the line has made some 48 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: really really good plays. I just you know, I don't 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: know what else you're looking for. And I think this 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: year especially has taught us that just because you have 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: the name on the back of the jersey doesn't guarantee 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: a playoff spot. The Broncos are a perfect explanation of that. 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Well, you found out that Patrick Mahomes towards ACL yesterday, 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: a really tough blow there for the I can't see 55 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs among the fact that they were eliminated. Now, I mean, 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: I guess we don't really know the prognosis necessarily, but 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: this certainly seems like it might impact the way the 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs would approach even the beginning of next year, don't 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: you think. 60 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't know that it will impact their approach, but 61 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: I think it is very possible it impacts whether or 62 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: not Patrick Mahomes is ready for the season. You know, 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: like if it's if it's just an abl then it's like, 64 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: all right, that's nine to eleven months, maybe twelve months, 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: but like probably could play right there. If it's more, 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: then you know, I would say, you're looking at a 67 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: longer recovery. And that's what we don't know. 68 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: He's in Dallas right now getting a second opinion. 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: It didn't look great, I think, you know, I don't 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: know what he was playing with, but his knee definitely was, 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, hurting him, I think for probably the last 72 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: month or so. But yeah, I mean, you know, the 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: prospect of Mahomes not being ready to start the season 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: is I think something that's at least a real consideration 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: possibility for Kansas City. 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: In another big game for the Broncos coming up Sunday, 77 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: Jacksonville comes in and they're a ten win team that 78 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: they've sort of flown under the radar. It's not the 79 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: same as the Packers coming in, uh, sort of a 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: national team. But when you look at the Jaguars, what 81 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: couple of things pop in your mind that makes them 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: a dangerous team? 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean this is another one where like if 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: you looked at the name on the jersey, you would 85 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: think one thing, but if you watch them on the field, 86 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: you'd probably think another. I mean, you know, and they've 87 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: they've a little bit like the Broncos, they faced questions 88 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: about the quarterbacks probably throughout the season. There was a 89 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: stretch where he was very turnover prone and now he's 90 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: probably playing his best football, and you know, coaching matters. 91 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: I think Liam Cohen was a guy who, you know, 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: the league was probably on a little late. But the 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: way he's helped. 94 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: That offense has been really impressive. 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: And it's not just Trevor. I mean they they now 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: Ba sh ol Tuten won't play, but because he broke 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: his finger and had surgery. But you know, they run 98 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: the ball well, they get the ball in mans to 99 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: the playmakers that are efficient and on defense, you know, 100 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: they had all sorts of talent up front. It took 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: him a while to be able to get to the quarterback. 102 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: And now they are getting to the quarterback. You know, 103 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: they're they're pretty good and I think they, you know, 104 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: definitely have been among the more surprising teams this year. 105 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 5: The Bill's games started against the Patriots with three consecutive 106 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 5: drives that ended in punts. After that, it was the 107 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: Josh Allen Show. Now he is the reigning MVP of 108 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 5: the league. Do you see him running it back and 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 5: consistently putting up those numbers as the season started to 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 5: wind down. 111 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: If he's going to keep doing what he's done. The 112 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: last was two or three weeks, then I think maybe yeah, because. 113 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: Like if you want to say to me, like, you know, 114 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: Josh Allen is the best player in football right now, 115 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Like it's. 116 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: A tough argument if you've watched any of the last 117 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: couple of games. We watched the second a half against 118 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: the Bengals, watched the last three quarters or two and 119 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: a half yesterday, Like there is a point where he 120 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: could sort to do whatever and really can't be stopped. 121 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: And there's just you know, there's not a lot of 122 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: guys who have that in him. I mean, Mahomes does, 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: Lamar does you know, maybe some. 124 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 4: Others, but not the list is pretty short. 125 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: And when he goes from like Josh Allen to Josh 126 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: like alien, he is so good. So I mean if 127 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: and when there's like some sort of low or injury 128 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: or something like, I don't see why he wouldn't be 129 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: the MVP. 130 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: Again, Well that's what I have for Ian appreciate the 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: time Jadon Daniels was a shut down for the season. Today, 132 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm probably probably not surprising ultimately considering where the Washington 133 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Commanders are currently at, but you're seeing other teams where 134 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: they continue to want to get their guys out there, 135 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: including the Bengals who are playing Joe Burrows. So I 136 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: guess in that respect, is this just a wave the 137 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: white flag and we'll we'll shoot for next year kind 138 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: of deal. 139 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: You know. I've got a lot of conversations about this 140 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: with sources and with a lot of people, and I think, 141 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 2: you know, players always want to play. Certainly Joe Burrow 142 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: wants to play, and you never want to wave the 143 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: white flag. The problem is Jenden Daniels is so talented, 144 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: but he's had three different injuries this year, well three 145 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: injuries and then another occurrence of the same injury at 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: the elbow, and like, you're not playing for anything. It's 147 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: not his decision. But if he goes out and injures 148 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: himself and like puts himself in jeopardy to start next year, 149 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: is that worth it? You know? And like, again, nobody 150 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: wants to give up on anything, but it just I 151 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: couldn't get to a point where it made sense to 152 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: play him, Like there's nothing to play for. He's been injured. 153 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: You know, he's good. It's not like he needs to 154 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: learn the scheme like players like him. So there's not 155 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: like he needs to prove anything, Like what would actually 156 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: be the reason to play him besides just to play him. 157 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: So this feels like the right decision for me. It's 158 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: weird because like there's not a lot of this, and 159 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: there hasn't been a lot of this, But I really 160 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: do think it's the right decision for the Washington commanders. 161 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: I really do. 162 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: Always great, Ian, We will chat with you next week. 163 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: Man. Thank you, Okay, thanks guys, Thanks, I appreciate it. 164 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport