1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Let's welcome aboard dot tom op From Tom, what's your 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: take on the LAO acquisition? To me, it's a good 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: first step, but I bet it's pretty much the only step. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: I'm shocked that they did anything. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 3: I was kind of reserving myself to them, just going 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: through this offseason and almost getting this player and almost 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 3: getting that player, and then signing some token guys to say, oh, look, 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 3: we did something. 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: We tried. 10 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: It's a little different from last year. So I'm impressed 11 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 3: that they actually were able to go out and swing this. 12 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: But you're a spot on with that analysis, Mark, This 13 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: has to be a first step. They're still probably about 14 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: two bats away in my estimation, from being legitimately a 15 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: playoff contender, and specifically speaking, they still have just a 16 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: massive hole at third base right now. Triolo cannot be 17 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: your starting third baseman. Well, could you move Gonzales there? 18 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he's the arm strength to play third base. 19 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: I think he is really in a tough spot right now, 20 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: to be honest with you, But that's fine, because Gonzalez 21 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: isn't that great of a player. 22 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: People overrate him. 23 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: No, I agree, but I still think he's better than 24 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: some of the guys. At a great point, he's a 25 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: better bet than Triola. 26 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: That's a great point. 27 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, do you make glow the DA leave Gonzalez 28 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: at second or vice versa. 29 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: So no mascot, no mascot cuts this year? 30 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Then, well, I think, And this is a conversation I 31 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: was gonna have, you know, maybe Monday once this sunk in, 32 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: because damn the Powers for making a deal right before 33 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: I go on the air. 34 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: I had to redo preparation and that's not fun, Tom. 35 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to just kind of come in secure with 36 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: what I had planned to say since roughly a thirty 37 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: pm last night. Well, no, after the Penguin game, which 38 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: we'll get to in a moment. But yeah, I think 39 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I think it would say a lot about their desire 40 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: to move forward if they move on without Cutch. 41 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I think. I mean this 42 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: Magnum guy. 43 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna say Magnum, but it's Mangum. 44 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: The inn comes before the GA. 45 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Right right, and the stolen bases come before the power. 46 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: But but I mean, he's gonna get some at bats. 47 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: I just think they need to move on from Cutch 48 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: if they want to show us that they're serious and 49 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: not just a nostalgia act. 50 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so you're gonna have Cruis and Reynolds 51 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: in your outfield and it's probably going to be this 52 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: Mangum and Password platooning in the other outfield spot. You'd think, 53 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: right like, that's what they would go with. And then hey, 54 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: what if I don't know, I know, you guys out 55 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: of a police and just speculating, and my point being is, 56 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: and then what if the other one plays so well 57 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: that you just want to put him at DH the 58 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: password just becomes the DH. Yeah, cuts it Cuts should 59 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 3: be the odd man out. They should move on from 60 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: a Cutch. And I'm not sure yet they don't bring 61 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: him back on like a four or five million dollars 62 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: a year deal though one year deal. 63 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Will they promote Griffin no matter what? Will he be 64 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: in the opening day lineup, no matter what. 65 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: If they make one more move for a bat, I 66 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: think they can hold off on that. 67 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, that's not what I said. I mean logically, in 68 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: his development, he shouldn't come up at all. He shouldn't 69 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: start the season in the Major. 70 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: League even as it stands right now, even before they 71 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: got low, he shouldn't have been starting the season. 72 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: I don't think. 73 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna look the hype as much 74 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: as possible, get tickets sold early on you know, season 75 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: ticket packages, whatever, and I just think that's there. I 76 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: think they've intended to do that maybe dating back into 77 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: last season. 78 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: It is so unlike them, though, I mean, they love 79 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: to manipulate that clock and service time and make sure 80 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: you get as much out of these products a possible, 81 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: So it would be bucking their usual trend big time. 82 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Where do you see them how many win team now 83 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: after having acquired Brandon Law. 84 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: You're probably right, seventy five, seventy six something like that. 85 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: Can they hang in the playoff race for most of 86 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: the season. 87 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: Though, depends on how you think the division looks like. 88 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: Do you think the Cubs will come back as strong 89 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: as they were last year? The Brewers were great in 90 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: the regular season last year, they just went on a 91 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: run in the second half. I think that they can 92 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: hang around, definitely be in it at the deadline right now, 93 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: but I just don't think they'll be able to push 94 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: through that August and September month to get into the 95 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: playoff race. 96 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Then I bet what they do is they start off 97 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: really hot and get people believing they can make the 98 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: playoffs and then just soil a bit, which brings us 99 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: to the Penguins, who have not lost seven in a row. 100 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about them at length a bit later, 101 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: but just right now, to me, they mean four mila 102 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: at Ottawa. They were never in the game. It looked 103 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: like they quit. Muse looked as confused as Mike Johnston 104 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: behind the bench, and I hate to say that's starting 105 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: to become more and more of a valid comparison to 106 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: my eyes. And it was pointed out to me this 107 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: morning that the Penguins no team really normally soils the 108 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: bit and quits on the dad's trip. But the dads 109 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: had to watch that last night. And I am told 110 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: that the locker room is really fuming over Jarry getting traded. 111 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Remember when they kind of went on strike when they 112 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: traded Jake a few years back and missed the playoffs 113 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: because of it. 114 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm told this may be a similar situation. 115 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: Oh, because Jarry deserves that. Jarry deserves the Jake treatment. 116 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: It is crazy how much they overestimated him in that 117 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: own long. 118 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: It is also crazy how much they just want the 119 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: gang to stick around, even a member of the gang 120 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: who didn't win a goddamn playoff series with the Penguins 121 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: in his ten years with the team. 122 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a guy like said, is he 123 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: more in favor of keeping the gang around or is 124 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: he getting sick of missing the playoffs for three straight 125 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: years going on four. To be perfectly blunt, he wants 126 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: to have his cake and eat it too. Well, it's 127 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: not happening, and it's not gonna happen this year. 128 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: Boy. I mean, I bet that was a surly group 129 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: of dads after the game last night. One dad I 130 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: can think of in particular. But yeah, it's just it 131 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: was just an excrement show last night. And they got 132 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: to get back to the plan. They got to get 133 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: Kindle on the top power play f Anthony Manton that 134 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: watched up one needs some bitch. They got to get 135 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Hine and back in Wilkeson, get Bras ups with the Penguins. 136 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: They screwed up Harrison Brunnick because they got that whiff 137 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: of maybe making the playoffs in their nostrils. Kyle needs 138 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: to go to Muse and make the plan get put 139 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: back in effect. And if Muse won't do it, screw you. 140 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: You're fired. 141 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: Part of that plant. Bruni comes back from juniors from Canada. 142 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 3: You play him every night, right like just or maybe 143 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: you know you do like more, you send them back 144 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: to the junior juniors. 145 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: But you make a freaking decision. 146 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got to play more than he is. And 147 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: that and who's is that? 148 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: It? 149 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: Tom? 150 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: When it happened that that hot start would screw them up, 151 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: it would skew the plan. 152 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: Me Mark Madden, the super genius. That's too. 153 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: I'll throw another one in there that they have to do. 154 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: I think they got to get rid of she Lov's 155 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: and they got to bring Mirashov up, and they just 156 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: got to go with Skinner and Mirraschov moving forward and 157 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: let Merschov develop up or. 158 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: If you want Moroschov to stay down there and develop. 159 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: Joel blum Quist has been playing him up really well 160 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: in Wilkes. Just have him have like like one Quist 161 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: and morishof move back and forth once in a watch. 162 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: Sure, why not just get she Loves the hell out 163 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 3: of here. He stinks. He's on a six game losing 164 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: streak mark. His safe percentage in the past four games 165 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: is seven eighty four. 166 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: It's awful. 167 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: A shooter tutor could do could do that well, and 168 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: having interviewed Chilofs probably have more personality one oh five 169 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: ninety x. On Twitter, a lot of people were big 170 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: en up Mike Burrows, who the pirates gave up in 171 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: this Brandon Loud deal? I mean, was he great? I 172 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: never noticed it when he was here. I mean, who 173 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: he ever beats? But the love deal has the optimism 174 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: off the hook, off the hinge, with the usual suspects 175 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: and of course buck onation, and I still feel like 176 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: right now they're no better than a seventy five win team, 177 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: although I will say, if you can add another bat, 178 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: even if that's Connor Griffin, he turns out to be 179 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: eighty percent of what he turns out to be for 180 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: the long run, I mean, that'll be enough support for 181 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: Skeens to maybe actually have a record over five hundred, 182 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: which I think Tom Skeins was over five hundred or 183 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: was he five hundred? 184 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: Yes? What a great accomplishment. 185 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Uh Okay, here's my fearless prediction for the Steelers game 186 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: at Detroit. I think Detroitch's going to kill the Steelers 187 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: like thirty five seventeen. The Steelers can't slow down that 188 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: offense or keep up with that offense. I think tom 189 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Win will make the mistake of trying to force a 190 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: rock fight early because he knows no other way, you know, 191 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: try to win the possession game, try to win the 192 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: field position game, and it just has no chance of working. 193 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: And right now Detroit is out of the playoffs and 194 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: it gets really grim for the lines if they lose. 195 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: So there's more for them to lose than there is 196 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: for the Steelers. And I don't know how Detroit has 197 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: lost six games, just like I don't know how the 198 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Steelers have won seven games. I'm just dazed and confused. 199 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: And while the line secondary is beat up, their pass 200 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: rush might kill Aaron Rodgers. The big matchup to watch 201 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: there is going to be Troy Fautanu against Aiden Hutchinson 202 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: on that side of the line. So I think the 203 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: Steelers can win this game if they wise up. I 204 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: just don't think Mike Tomlin has it within him to 205 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: play a different kind of game. I mean, he did 206 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: last year when they won the shootout with Cincinnati, or 207 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Cincinnati forced that more than the 208 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Steelers kept up with it, But I don't know. I 209 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: just don't have a good feeling about this game. I 210 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: will say though, if the Steelers do win, the hero 211 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: will be the modern day warrior Jack Sawyer, who I 212 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: don't think is quite ready to be a starting edge 213 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: rusher in the NFL, but I think he might be 214 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: ready to do it on the day. I think adrenaline 215 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: might boost him and the extra snaps will be to 216 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: his benefit because of that adrenaline and to the Steelers benefit. 217 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: Tom what is the Steelers' best bet to win this 218 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: game at Detroit? 219 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: They definitely have to slow down Jamier Gibbs, Like that's 220 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: where it starts. But the problem with the Lions it's 221 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: kind of the same problem you face with the Bills, right, 222 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 3: And I think that's why you're saying you feel like 223 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: this could be a blowout, just like the Bills game was. 224 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: Is if you slow down a rushing attack, and they 225 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 3: didn't do this against the Bills, but if you slow 226 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: down Gibbs, they have a CounterPunch with Goff and Saint 227 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: Brown and Williams and Laporta have a really good passing 228 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: game in that Detroit offense too, So similar to Buffalo, 229 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, we stop the run in theory, but 230 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: Josh Allen could drop four hundred on our head and 231 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: still beat us. So it's tough for me to see them, 232 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: you know, coming up with you do this one thing 233 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: like you did against Miami equals victory. 234 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. 235 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: It's one thing to put the game into his hands, Yes, 236 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: it's another to put the game in golf's hands. 237 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: Who. 238 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: Like we talked about yesterday, I think is is underrated. 239 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if Detroutch's going to win a Super 240 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: Bowl with him, but I think he's done a great 241 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: job there peripherally, Tom, because it really matters. Who do 242 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: you like in that Ravens New England game? I know 243 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: New England has missed a lot of dbs, right, just 244 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: like the Lions are. 245 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of like the Patriots though in that game. 246 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, especially get they're getting three points 247 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: right now, Like I would definitely snatch that up. People 248 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: are overestimating the slide of the Patriots because of what 249 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: happened to Buffalo last week. 250 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: Oh, no question. We talked about that yesterday. 251 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Ye yeah, they lost to Buffalo, blew the lead, but 252 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: they won ten in a row. 253 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: Before that, and it was thirty five to thirty one. 254 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm not underestimating Baltimore being backed into a corner in 255 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: what pretty much much to a must win situation. 256 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm not either, but I said this yesterday too. 257 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: On the surface, twenty four to nothing against Cincinnati and 258 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: Cincinnati looks like, oh, the Ravens are back. But then 259 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: you dig in and it's like Lamar didn't play that 260 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: great in that game, and the Bengals just reek of 261 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: a team that quit, and the quarterbacks talking to the 262 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 3: media and saying he quit. So it's tough to think 263 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: that they, you know, really showed a good, you know 264 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: fight in that game, and they're bouncing back. I think 265 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 3: the Patriots are going to beat the Ravens and they're 266 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: gonna put him in a really tough spot going to 267 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: Lambo next week. 268 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: I spoke to our Detroit Lions in nine to eleven 269 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: correspondent Kevin Nash this morning, who is on his way 270 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh for a convention at one of those cons 271 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: and we were talking about Baltimore and about John Harbaugh 272 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: and how he always got smarts himself. And he said, 273 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: and I agree, And this applies to the Steeler game, 274 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: which the Steelers won despite not really deserving to. But 275 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: how can you not run Derrick Henry twenty times in 276 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: the first half in every game and break the other 277 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: team's will. 278 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then Derrick Henry is such a unique player 279 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 3: that you can do that strategy and then run him 280 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: twenty more times in the second half because he doesn't 281 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: wear down. In fact, he gets stronger statistically speaking, as 282 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: the seasons get later and as games get later. That 283 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: is a huge air that's going on right now with 284 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 3: the Ravens. For the past two years, they go out 285 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: and they get Derrick Henry and then they try to 286 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: get away from him too much. 287 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: I think part of it is they feel pressure to 288 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: make sure Lamar the MVP, gets his froze and his 289 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: carries and blah blah blah. But it's a different story 290 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: right now with him playing clearly dinged up. 291 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 292 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: And also Lamar has his stats, he has his two MVPs. 293 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: For his legacy. Now it's about getting that Super Bowl ring. 294 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: It should be by any means necessary to cement him 295 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: as an all time great by getting him that ring. 296 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: And if you have to hand it off a thousand times, 297 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: handed off a thousand times, I. 298 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: Gotta be honest. 299 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: He's a two time MVP, but he ain't no all 300 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: time great. 301 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: If he wins the super Bowl, he will for sure 302 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: be an all time great. He's already the greatest rushing 303 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 3: quarterback ever. 304 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: He ain't gonna win a super Bowl? You don't think 305 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: so fair? 306 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: He might not, And I think if he gets the 307 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: MVPs with no ring, I mean he's going to be 308 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: in the Hall of no doubt he will. But I 309 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: think people say, Okay, more evidence that kind of quarterback 310 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: really doesn't work. 311 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: But I think it's wrong. I do. Okay, what quarterback 312 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: like that's won a super Bowl? 313 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 3: I don't know, But like you think that that's a 314 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: bad quarterback to have you don't think you can win. 315 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: I ask again, what kind of quarterback like that has 316 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: wan to see? What's his problem? 317 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 3: Then he's the second best passer rating quarterback in the 318 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: past three years in the NFL. 319 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: He's great. 320 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: I just think when you play good teams in the playoffs, 321 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: you need a pure, precise passer. 322 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 3: He does that, not against good teams in big games. Okay, fine, 323 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: but he might. I think it's too early to write 324 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: that off completely. The Sirens song. 325 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: Of the truly Despert Tom he might, no, and he's 326 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: really good I just I just think the playoffs or 327 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: a different story with the type of car, a different beast, 328 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: it's required. 329 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 3: Josh Allen plays great in the playoffs too. He is 330 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: yet to get to a super Bowl. Needs to have 331 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: that happen. 332 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, I think he's a better passer. I don't know. 333 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I don't know that Josh 334 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: Allen's gonna win either or be an all time great. 335 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Then and if the Bills don't win this year with 336 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: Mahomes not there to be their bogie team the bow 337 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: quarterback with the Chiefs, then then it's if they don't 338 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: win this year, it's really on them. 339 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: And honestly, applying that to Harbaugh and the Ravens, that 340 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: might be why I fire Harbaugh. I might look at 341 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: him and be like, dude, Mahomes was out and the 342 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: Steelers were the best team in the division and you 343 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: couldn't win it. 344 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll. 345 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: I think Harbaugh doesn't have quite the job security of 346 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Tom Win in Pittsburgh, but I think it's pretty close. 347 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: The Ravens are like the Steelers in that sense, haven't 348 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: They only had three coaches in their iteration since being 349 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: in Baltimore Ravens. I think that's right. They had I 350 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: forget his name, who started it, Ran Billick. Brian Billick 351 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: was the second coach, and then he handed it right 352 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: off to Harbaugh. 353 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: I think you're right. 354 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: I think I think they see themselves in the same 355 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: mold I do, yeah, as the Steelers in terms of organizationally. 356 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: Here's here's something I heard today on the B team 357 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't know how to how to how to 358 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: perceive it. Well, actually I do know how to perceive it. 359 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: It's their mindless optimism, the fanboys stuff. But they were 360 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: saying the Steelers are trending upward. Are the Steelers trending 361 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: upward or to just win a couple games in a row, 362 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: because that there's a difference there, potentially just. 363 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: Getting ahead of them themselves by one game. If they 364 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: beat the Lions, then yes they are trending upward. But 365 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: that hasn't happened, right. 366 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: You know what I've been saying all week, went out 367 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: went out. If you want to be for real, you 368 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: want to be for real, you want to build legitimate momentum, 369 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: win out, and the schedule does not preclude winning out. 370 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: You can win a Detroit and the other two games, 371 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: I dare say they probably should win. 372 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you win, although. 373 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: If the Baltimore game is winner take off of the division, 374 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: then it gets really tricky. 375 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: It's diicy, it does if it's if they do win 376 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: this game in Sunday, I think they will win out 377 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: because I don't. I think Baltimore's gonna split, and I 378 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: think that they will make that game. 379 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: If they If they win at Detroit, I do think 380 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: they win out. I think if they don't win at Detroit, 381 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: then the Week eighteen game does determine the division champion 382 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: and the playoff. 383 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: Spot, and it goes to a Baltimore. I think Baltimore. 384 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: Baltimore wins at that point. 385 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: They always split, right isn't that the cliche that Steelers 386 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: fans love the parade around at the beginning of the season. 387 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: You're always split with Baldton. Not this time they won't. 388 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think they should have lost 389 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: at Baltimore. I think the referees didn't give them the game. 390 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: How did I describe it then? That there were just 391 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: some unfortunate calls for the Ravens that all went the 392 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: Steelers way. They weren't necessarily bad calls. Except for the 393 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: call on roughing the long snapper. But you know the 394 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: other two calls could have easily gone against against Pittsburgh. 395 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: But I don't feel like they're trending up. 396 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: But I still feel like Rogers, the way he's playing 397 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: is is just above average and no better, like people 398 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: are lionized. 399 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: And we got. 400 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: A a sound bite later, who's it from from Mike McCarthy, 401 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, admittedly Rodgers's old coach at Green Bay saying 402 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: how great Rogers was? 403 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean, was he great? Or was he like pretty good? 404 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: He wasn't great, He was more pretty good. He's gonna 405 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: have to be great in Detroit though you're in a dome, 406 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, no elements. You gotta rip 407 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: it up against that defensive back that's injured to the 408 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: defensive backfield. So he's got to have a great type 409 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: of performance, statistically great. Two seventy five, three touchdowns. 410 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: I got to text tom and I texted back, who 411 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: is this? Somebody who said would I be early tomorrow? 412 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: And I'll be at Marino American Eatery for the Penguins game, 413 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: and then Sunday I'll be at celebrations in Imperial for 414 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers Alliance and sticking around for some of that 415 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: Penguins game afterwards. 416 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: But I didn't recognize it. I'm sorry. 417 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: I texted back, who is this? And the text not 418 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: reason this is Josie? Is this Anna's new number? Would 419 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: like to invite you to a barbecue for tomorrow? Now, Tom, 420 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: what those are? Do you ever get text like that? 421 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 422 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: I do sometimes. 423 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Okay, they're trying to catfish you, yes, exactly, trying to 424 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: get you to, you know, give them some kind of 425 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: information or you know, like try to liaise with them, 426 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: and then you know, they threaten to embarrass you as 427 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: a result. Yes, And I am way too smart for that, 428 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: although it really couldn't hurt the caller back. 429 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: One O five to nine The X. 430 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: Tomorrow nights, the Pens go head to head against the Canadians. 431 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Game time is seven. 432 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 3: Our coverage starts at six here every game and the 433 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: best coverage right here on your Home of the Pens. 434 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 2: One five nine the X. 435 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: Pellets. We'll face the toughest job interview in face Joe, Tom, 436 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: I gotta ask, what's the biggest story today? The Pirates 437 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: acquiring Brandon Law from Tampa. Previewing Steelers Detroit or the 438 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Penguins having lost their seventh in a row last night 439 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: and looking like they quit. 440 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: I think it actually should be Steelers in Detroit. 441 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 3: I know the Loo thing has a lot of people excited, 442 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: but we got a long time between now and the 443 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: baseball season starts. 444 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: And do you agree it ends with him being traded 445 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: in July? 446 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're out of it, or even do you 447 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: think there's any chance he reopts. 448 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: No, there's no chance he reopts. 449 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: And unless by some miracle they do go to the 450 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: playoffs and make a round. 451 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: Now, from that standpoint, I give them credit for trading, 452 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: even for rental, because schemes might just have the one 453 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: year here. Maybe they're doing this year what they should 454 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: have done, you know, last year and the year before, 455 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: every year they had Paul Skins. And by getting this 456 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: guy in a trade where he couldn't say no, he 457 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: didn't have that that, you know, right, every fus I'm 458 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: assuming because I would refuse. But but now you've layed 459 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: groundwork where free agents might think, Okay, these guys maybe 460 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: are serious. In the short term anyway, maybe you get like, 461 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: what did you see Bellinger wants something? 462 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: But by the same forty million or something. Yeah, but 463 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: here's the thing. 464 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: If the powers were serious, Well, the thing is if 465 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: he wants that, you'd give that the skemes and he'd 466 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: say no to just like Bellinger wud. 467 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: I know there's still in a tough spot. 468 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 3: They are, but there are some guys out there, some 469 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: fringe players that now I think you can fill out 470 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: this lineup with, like a Michael Confordo who was with 471 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: the Dodgers last year, costs like eight million dollars pay him. 472 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: You really want to talk throw twenty million at a 473 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 3: you Hennio Suarez. That's going to be an overpay for him, 474 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: but that fills your third base spot, and he hit 475 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 3: over forty home runs last year. 476 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: I don't disagree that. 477 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: In fact, if I had to say one move they 478 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: should make that, I'm not sure it's makable because again 479 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure anybody wants to come here. 480 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: Yes, but the move is to overpay swats. 481 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think the spot track told me like 482 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen is what they're expecting him to get on 483 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: a per year. BA twenty twenty one million would absolutely 484 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 3: make him come here, even if he didn't want to come. 485 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: If you added Suadez and at him and Lao in 486 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: the middle of the lineup. 487 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: And let's say you win the gamble by promoting Connor 488 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: Griffin at that age, you could make the playoffs. 489 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 3: Are we pulling the plug on Reynolds and Cruz too 490 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: that there's no like turnaround for Reynolds this year or 491 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: Cruz actually turns into something decent? 492 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: What I mean, you're talking about trading him? 493 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: No? No, No. 494 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: As far as in the lineup, how they fit with 495 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: that what you're saying. 496 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: I think if they're protected by better bats, they would 497 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: be better. 498 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: And here I am being optimistic. Well, I think that 499 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: applies to Reynolds. I don't know about Cruz. 500 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: I just Cruz just went so hard in the tank 501 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: at the end of last season, didn't finish under the 502 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: Mendoza line or really close to it. 503 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: He was flirting with it. I just don't know if 504 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: he'll ever come around. 505 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: Now. Well, here's the thing about him. I think he's 506 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: really stupid, true, and I don't think he cares very much. 507 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: I think he got his money. You know, he could 508 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: afford to buy the entire Dominican Republic. I just think 509 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: he has achieved what he wants in baseball. 510 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: Already. 511 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: He probably wants just like very Polanco esque, probably wants 512 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: to play short stops too. Still, right like, if he 513 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: had his way, he would probably still want to be 514 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 3: a shortstop and playing. 515 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm surprised he didn't rebel in that regard. I mean, 516 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: after after he proved to not be any more comfortable 517 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: in center field. 518 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: It is still a pretty glamorous position, right Like, It's 519 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: not like they moved him into right field. 520 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: I don't care. It's not short But I'm just saying. 521 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: You asked me a question. 522 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I mean I don't I mean, 523 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I don't know what's a glamorous position 524 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: in baseball. I mean, Willie May's paid center field that. 525 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: Joe Mickey Mantle. I know. 526 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's put it this way. I don't 527 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: think it's any less glamorous position than shortstop. 528 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying though, So maybe that's why he 529 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: didn't rebel, because it was like, Okay, I'm still kind 530 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: of in a big time spot, just in the outfield, 531 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: not in the infield. 532 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: Is he due for arbitration? O'Neal Cruz, they signed him, 533 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: they locked him up. Yeah, that's right, But no, what 534 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: are you sure about that. 535 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: I'm looking up his spot track right now to see 536 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 3: when that deal. I don't know they ate into some 537 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: of them. 538 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: And if I sound confused, it's because I don't talk 539 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: about baseball hardly ever, and really don't care. Tom. While 540 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: you're looking that up, let's let's talk Penguins. Last night 541 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: was bad. Did it looked to you like the Penguins quit? 542 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: It looked to me like they didn't even start like. 543 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: It looked at me like from the beginning of the game, 544 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: they just didn't have any jumper. You'd expect them to 545 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: get shot out of a cannon trying to end a 546 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: six game losing streak against the team that is not 547 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: that good in Ottawa. 548 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: And it just was flat from the start of the game. 549 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: It was very surprising to see that. 550 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: Is Dan muse in over his head. He looks befuddled. 551 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: He reminded me seriously of Mike Johnston, who had a 552 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: brief stint as Penguins coach, a first NHL head coaching job, 553 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: almost certainly his last. 554 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: He's back. I think in junior a. 555 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: Mus looked confused and I think he's gotten away from 556 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: the plan for this season, whether on his own behest, 557 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: whether it's with Dubas's approval, which I got, I think 558 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: Dubis needs to straighten him out. 559 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: I mean, the honeymoon portion was great right the first 560 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: month and a half with me. 561 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: But I think the honeymoon I think the honeymoon portion 562 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: when they started out so hot and had like the 563 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: best ruger in Eastern Conference, I think that was fool's 564 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: gold obviously, and I think it got them off course 565 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: for what they should be doing. 566 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: Which is so weird because they were leaning into what 567 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: they should be doing that provided the fools gold start. 568 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: So why would you change course? Why wouldn't you just 569 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 3: keep leaning into that and say, hey, maybe we keep 570 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 3: getting lucky and it keeps working out. 571 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: Well, what they gotta do is you gotta go with 572 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: kids and music isn't not enough Like friggin' Mantha on 573 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: the top power play, not Kendall, who's their best power play? 574 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: Guy Heinen in Pittsburgh Bros. At Wilkes Brunick's year getting mangled. 575 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: You know, I just I just think right now, in 576 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: terms of that sort of decision, forget about what's actually 577 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: happening on the ice, But in terms of decision making 578 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: with the roster and deployment. 579 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: How many mistakes are they making? Let me comp the ways? 580 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: Too many? Yeah? 581 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, The buttons just start being pushed. We said that yesterday. 582 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: He's not finding a good touch right now and the 583 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: league's pushing back on him after his hot start. He 584 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: has no answers, and we said yesterday too, are you 585 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: too far away from getting into you know, bottom five, 586 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: bottom six positioning? Keep losing five or six more in 587 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: a row and we can start talking right What if 588 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: they get. 589 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: Swept in the home and home with Montreal on Saturday Sunday. 590 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: If you get swept, I wonder what happens. I don't know. 591 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: Do you fire him? Is it too early to pull 592 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: that trigger? And what's the means there? I guess you 593 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: would fire him just because he's not leaning into development 594 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: like you wanted him to, Like that would be your 595 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: main reasoning. 596 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: I think at that point you'd fire him because he 597 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: lost nine straight. Losing nine straight is unacceptable. Like I said, 598 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: he looks confused, the team looks like they quit And 599 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: as you heard me say a little bit ago, Tom, 600 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm told the room is upset because Jari got traded. 601 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: Like when Jake got traded. 602 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: That room and this includes everybody in it needs to 603 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: get the f over itself. Yate won a playoff series 604 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. Yate made the playoffs in three years. 605 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: You're a bad hockey team. Figure it out and don't 606 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: pop because you don't have the right too. You're not 607 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: entitled to it. 608 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: Hearing that if I'm doing this and I say other 609 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: room's not taking it, well, that actually might encourage me 610 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 3: more if they continue this slide, to move a rust, 611 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: to move a raquel, to blow the room up even more, 612 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: to be like, if you're gonna be this soft when 613 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: I make trades like this, forget that room. 614 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: I don't want that rum. 615 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: I think the intent was to at least investigate that 616 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: in the off season of Paper Soon scared Kyle, we'll 617 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: talk about how Sid needs to be in the playoffs. 618 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: So he kept both of his line mates instead of 619 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: shipping one of them off. Yeah, it just just I mean. 620 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: Carlson's got to be traded now too, kind of for 621 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: the same reason why Jarry needed to be trade. 622 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: He's starting to fade, he's started to get backs. 623 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: You gotta get him out of here. While there's probably 624 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: some still value. 625 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: What about getting slaughter on the dad's trip, Tom, that 626 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: that almost never happens. The kids usually up the annie 627 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: when the dads are there. They clearly did not last night. 628 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, sorry dad. Do you think they got a 629 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: tongue lashing when they went back to the hotel? Like 630 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: kind of like a throwback to the. 631 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of women these guys meet 632 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: on the. 633 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: Road, Tom, Uh, you have seen mister deeds when the 634 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: dad takes off the belt when he uses foul language. 635 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: Do you think that was happening to the player? 636 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, I thought about this the other day because 637 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I watch Uncut Gems over and over, Yeah, which I 638 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: think is one OF's best movies. I thought, funny people 639 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: like the ones that are semi drama with comedy stirred in. 640 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: I think he found kind of a niche. However, accidentally, 641 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 1: he's got chops there, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, but but 642 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: I you know, I've seen relatively few Sandler movies there. 643 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: He got in a jag where a lot of them 644 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: just weren't pretty good. Although he hasn't disappeared and done 645 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: bad product like Will Ferrell has in the past. 646 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: When's the last good Will Ferrell movie. That's the thing. 647 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: Like Adam Sandler at least hasn't faded, you know what 648 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: I mean. Like Adam Adam a huge talent. No even 649 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: like I've watched grown Ups years after the fact. It's funny. 650 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: They're formulaic with all the like you know, his cronies, 651 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: but they're okay, yeah, there is. You're right, that's a 652 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: good way to put it because of who's in it, 653 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: and because the storyline is real simple and it's it's 654 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: nostalgia based. The charm is definitely there. I'll say this, 655 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: here's how bad Will Ferrell's been for long enough. Yeah, 656 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm beginning to wonder if he was ever any good 657 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: in the first place, and if we overrated his body 658 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: of work. 659 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: I think he was pretty good on Saturday Night Live. 660 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: I think his movie career took off to a different 661 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: level with the McKay team up, and now that he 662 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 3: has divorced himself from Adam McKay. 663 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: You just starting to wonder who made who I think. 664 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: Movie wise, like Superstar wise, I think Adam McKay had 665 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: a lot to do with that. 666 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: There's no question, Okay. 667 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: I think we've concluded that the big story today is 668 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: not the acquisition of Brandon Law, or the Penguins losing 669 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: seven in a row or the Steelers in line Sunday. 670 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: It is indeed the trajectory of Will Ferrell's career. 671 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: Do you want to know about o'nel Cruiz's arbitration. He 672 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: is due arbitration this year. Three point twenty five mil 673 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: is the estimate. I thought, so, yeah, you were right. 674 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: Well, three point two five mil for his talent is 675 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: actually reasonable. 676 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: It's not bad for his performance. It's actually overpaying. 677 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: It is I just like I'd get I'd trade him 678 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: before people figure out that. 679 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: It just just is what he is. 680 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 3: Especially coming off of that derby, right, because the national 681 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: perspective is like, wow, look at what he did in 682 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: the home run derby. O'Neal Cruiz is awesome. That's what 683 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: people on the West Coast think of him, who pitched 684 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: him in a home run derby. 685 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: As some pitching coach for the Pirates. I think because 686 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: I'd have beaned him. One oh five nine the X 687 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: from the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center. This report is 688 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: for genuine We're gonna. 689 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: See this hour of the show brought to us by Shnderovi, 690 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: Shenderovich and Fishmen. They only charge twenty five percent. Everybody 691 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: else charges forty. I think forty is just screwing you 692 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: to the wall. And Shndrovia Shendrorovis and Fishermen are the 693 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: only lawyers out there who care. But that's just me 694 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: well them and Saul Goodman, who is not available locally. 695 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: And I think if we follow the storyline, God will 696 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: still be in prison. 697 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: There's a new Tom. Have you heard? Were you Better 698 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: Calls off? 699 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: In? 700 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: Nah? 701 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: Didn't watch Breaking Bad, So I didn't watch Better Call Saw? 702 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: Oh? 703 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: Because there's there's one what's it called? 704 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: Uh? Vince Gilligan who did those two series, has one 705 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: featuring Ray Seahorn, who is a big part of Better 706 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Call Saw? 707 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: But I forget what's called porbus? 708 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: Maybe it has nothing to do with No, No, no, it's 709 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: not in our same character. 710 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: No. 711 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: I like today's show, you know why because the lile 712 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: trade and the penguins soiling the bed on the Dad's 713 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: trip gave us a lot to pick from the converse about, 714 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: aside for the usual your hint cause Steelers are gonna win. 715 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: With that in mind, let's go to the trifecta. Tom, 716 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: What do you got? 717 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Perfect? 718 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: With that in mind, so I've got stats on each 719 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: one of the Lions Big three that really puts into 720 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: perspective how historically great they've been so far. 721 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: To quote David sat Hubbins, maybe too much effing perspective. 722 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: Number three, I'll go with Aiden Hutchinson, their best player 723 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: on defense. He's the first player since sacks have been 724 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: tracked in nineteen eighty two to have thirty five plus 725 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: sacks and five plus interceptions in his first four career seasons. 726 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: So he gets it done, not just sacking the quarterback. 727 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: He'll drop back and coverage and pick you off. Hutchinson 728 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: has that many picks. 729 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: Five plus picks. 730 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: So he's better than what right now, without question, he's 731 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: better than all they stabbed what In the long of course, 732 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: this is going to be better now. He actually kind 733 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 3: of reminds me a bit of what like back when 734 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: Watt was in his prime, where he could do that 735 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: kind of things like drop but not getting stabbed in 736 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: the lung right back before a lot. 737 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing that that hasn't been made a bigger 738 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: deal out of them they stabbed him in the lung, He's. 739 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: Just kind of brush right over, oh whatever where without. 740 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: I still love that he was at like the Christmas 741 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: function for the Steelers. Look he's getting better. It wasn't 742 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: an effing lung x rayu Marks. Okay, what else? 743 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: Number two Jamiir Gibbs, the Lions star running back. He 744 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: and Barry Sanders are the only players in league history 745 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: with twelve hundred plus scrimmage yards and ten plus touchdowns 746 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: in their first three seasons, and they all each accomplished 747 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 3: that before turning twenty four. Gibbs, here's a bonus. One 748 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: fifty two career touchdowns, has the most touchdowns of any 749 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: player in NFL history before turning twenty four. Or do 750 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: you rank him currently among the NFL running backs? He's 751 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: no lower than three. He might be one. You could 752 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: probably make the case for him at number one. Him, 753 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: Bijon definitely right there. 754 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: One. 755 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: Two's having a little bit of a down year this year. 756 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I'd rank Gibbs ahead of for sure this year. 757 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: I think Bjean's the only one you can put in that. 758 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Jonathan Taylor and James Cook are good too. 759 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: You can't forget them. The Colts running back of the 760 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: Bills running back, I don't think they're doing quite as 761 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: good as expected. I mean, you're doing real good. I'm 762 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: not sure like you know what I mean? Is that 763 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: fair to start that into the equation faded? 764 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: For sure? 765 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: I think down the stretch this season, like Cooks starting 766 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: to catch up with him rushing yards wise, Gibbs and 767 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: Bjeon Robinson bring so much to the table in the 768 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: passing game, and Gibbs especially. He might be the number 769 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: one back, but my number one player in this Big 770 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: three for the lines in his amazing stat a'man Ross 771 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: Saint Brown, the unbelievable wide receiver. He is the only player, 772 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: the only wide receiver in NFL history, to have ninety 773 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: catches in every single one of his first five seasons. 774 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: Think of all the great receivers, every single one of 775 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: them that didn't do that, abesque, but Amy didn't even 776 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: accomplish that without the stupid and his rookie season. 777 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: Ab didn't get ninety catch and all the kids, as 778 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: far as I know, t o Randy Moss, the list 779 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: goes on and on. I'm on Ross Saint Brown only one. 780 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: You know what the best thing about Amon Ross Saint 781 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: bron is that is a cool name. His name. 782 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: Do you know his brother's name Equinamius. Oh my god, 783 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: it's perfect. Does he played ball? He did, Yeah, he 784 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: played for the Packers. I don't know if he's still 785 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: in the league or not. 786 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: Oh, because I would put him on the team just 787 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: to have Equinimious and Amra. Yeah my god. What what 788 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: nationalities that I wonder? I don't there a Saint Bron. 789 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: I know there was a Saint Hubbins. That's a spinal tap. 790 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: I'mon Ross sounds a little Egyptian, right Like? Doesn't that 791 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: sound like kind of like what a pharaoh would be called. 792 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: I hate the stereotype. Tom. 793 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: Sorry, No, a pharaoh would be called Mohammed Salah, the 794 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: Egyptian king. 795 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: They are German, apparently, the Saint Browns, they are German 796 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: American professional football players. 797 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: There can't be a Saint Brom. I'm just telling you 798 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: right now, this is what it's says. 799 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: Literally, a Saint Bron, like we know there was like 800 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: a Saint Peter, you know, is there a Saint named Bron? 801 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think there is. 802 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: I don't think they are his last Equanamius's last stop 803 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 3: was on the San Francisco forty nine ers practice squad, so. 804 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: The Lions could snatch him up and pair him together. 805 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: I would love to be the PA announcer for the lines. 806 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: I would say, Detroit touchdown, Ammon Ross, Saint Brown. 807 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: Do you know he wears number fourteen too? Because fourteen 808 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: receivers were picked in front of him in the draft 809 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: year he went. 810 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: He's so he's petty, Yes, Tom petty. 811 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: By the way, do you see the Flyers announcer got 812 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: suspended because he made like a crack to a not 813 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: a female colleague, but a male colleague, because I guess 814 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: the guy ducked under the console to fix something. He said, hey, 815 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: while you're down there. He shouldn't be suspended for that. 816 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: I don't mind the suspension a live thing, but he 817 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: just better not be fired. 818 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: I don't think that that is a fireable offense at all. 819 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: I think once you tell your employees they can't kit 820 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: around at all, it makes for a really bad workplace. 821 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: And then again, he does work for the Flyer, so 822 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: there's really no salvaging one oh five ninety x