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Speaker 1: DOUXDXVAM Pittsburgh and iHeart radio station Guaranteed Human.

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Speaker 2: I saw a viral clip from college basketball over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: It came from Barstool's account.

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Speaker 2: It was a cameraman on the baseline of a women's

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Speaker 2: college basketball game.

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Speaker 3: He was trying to film the action.

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Speaker 2: He can't see the woman directly in front of him,

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Speaker 2: who's driving to the hoop a little out of control,

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Speaker 2: and she's spilled out, just splayed out in mid air.

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Speaker 2: And as she's falling down, she doesn't just kick him

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Speaker 2: in the twig and berries her foot, comes straight down

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Speaker 2: dead leg style, full speed, full force, and smushes down

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Speaker 2: on them. As he's sitting with his legs spread apart

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Speaker 2: to support himself. You know, give him a good solid

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Speaker 2: base for shooting down the court. There's only one thing

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Speaker 2: worse than getting kicked there. One of those things is

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Speaker 2: getting kicked there when you're not expecting it. Another thing,

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Speaker 2: actually is getting kicked there not knowing it's coming, and

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Speaker 2: having another surface area beneath you.

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Speaker 3: While that's happening.

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Speaker 4: Just thinking about it, I know that you are instantly

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Speaker 4: reaching for the radio dial to change the station.

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Speaker 3: But let me warn you.

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Speaker 4: The other sports talk outlet in town is playing Pitt

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Speaker 4: basketball right now. And haven't the Panthers basically been kicking

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Speaker 4: us in the junk like that over the last two years?

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Speaker 3: As it is? Do you really need more of that?

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Speaker 2: I'm Tim Benz, I'm in for Mark Bad today with

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Speaker 2: Tommy Radio, renowned Pittsburgh basketball fan Pitt Hooper extraordinary. Is

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Speaker 2: that pretty much the feeling that you've gotten watching these

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Speaker 2: Panthers the last two seasons getting kicked in the junk

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Speaker 2: repeatedly and NonStop.

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Speaker 3: Over and over and over again.

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Speaker 4: The point now that this season was just numb, just

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Speaker 4: complete numbness for the past couple of months, Like you

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Speaker 4: just gotta show up to the arena, go through the motions,

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Speaker 4: have a couple of beers and a run thing.

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Speaker 3: This is look at us, Look at us, you and me.

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Speaker 2: We've got Pitt and then Syracuse back to back to

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Speaker 2: the big screen while we're doing the show together today.

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Speaker 4: Two completely dead programs. I mean, you should be more

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Speaker 4: enraged than I oh am. Syracuse is supposed to be

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Speaker 4: there every year with March Madness. Pitt had a really

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Speaker 4: good run in the sun, never going to reach those

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Speaker 4: heights again. It should be conceivable that Syracuse can can

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Speaker 4: reach somewhat of those heights again based on who you

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Speaker 4: are in your history. So I mean it's it's such

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Speaker 4: a sad state of affairs between you and I in

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Speaker 4: college basketball fandom.

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Speaker 2: So, Tom, I put this question out there on a

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Speaker 2: Twitter poll, and I'll start with this, and no, it's

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Speaker 2: not about the death of the pit basketball program or

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Speaker 2: the lack of resurrection of the Syracuse basketball program. Favored

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Speaker 2: Steelers free agency moves so far Michael Pittman, ric O'dowdell,

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Speaker 2: Jamel Dean, or keeping a Sante Samuel's and then I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what the pole results are to this point.

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Speaker 3: My answer is actually gonna be Jammel Dean.

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Speaker 4: I think that he's actually the better player that you

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Speaker 4: got out of those three, and I think him and

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Speaker 4: Joey Porter Junior really have the potential to be just

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Speaker 4: an incredibly shut down tandem at corner the guys that

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Speaker 4: never leave the field. And Jamal Deane's ability to play

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Speaker 4: Manda Man very well too, bodes well for Porter Junior,

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Speaker 4: who needs to play a lot of Manda Man to

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Speaker 4: unlock what he can do best. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 4: with that one. I bet you the pulse is Pittman, though,

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Speaker 4: and I have not seen the pole result right hand

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Speaker 4: to god opening three, very first touch for Stanford. I'll

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Speaker 4: do basketball turetts in place of Madden's the Liverpool tourets.

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Speaker 2: Actually today I looked like there were I think they

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Speaker 2: were winning one. Nothing last I saw, thank Christ. But

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Speaker 2: at any rate, the answer to your question is Michael

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Speaker 2: Pittman at sixty percent of the vote with nearly seven

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Speaker 2: hundred votes in. So Michael Pittman an overwhelming choice. I

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Speaker 2: was actually gonna go with Rico Doubtell. Oh okay, so

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Speaker 2: we have a nice little you know, the audience. Me

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Speaker 2: and you split decision here because I think there's the

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Speaker 2: most upside at the position there, and I think it

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Speaker 2: benefits the replacement of Gainwell and benefits the other player

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Speaker 2: who's there, Warren the most. I think you can put

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Speaker 2: and I think you have a more capable guy to

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Speaker 2: be a number one than having Gainwell overachieve and get

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Speaker 2: some good scheme matchups to exploit like you did last year.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not trying to say that Gainwell didn't do

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Speaker 2: what Gainwell did here. But I think that some of

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Speaker 2: that was scheme related. I thought some of that was

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Speaker 4: They compliment each other a lot more Rico o'dodell and

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Speaker 4: Jalen Warren or a Rico Dondell and a Kenneth Gainwell

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Speaker 4: if you were to go the other way. But Gainwell

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Speaker 4: and Warren just did a lot of the same things

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Speaker 4: Well and Dalt will. Now do you vision Dade as

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Speaker 4: being the guy on first and ten in this handoff

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Speaker 3: I do too. So if it's not, then it's Warren

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Speaker 3: and that's okay.

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Speaker 4: It's fine, Yeah, I Warren can do that. But I

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Speaker 4: envisioned Dowdell being that guy. And in that sense, you

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Speaker 4: can definitely talk yourself into it being an upgrade over

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Speaker 4: Kenneth Gainwell. Even though Gamewell was the team MVP last year.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's gonna be a better fit having doubtle back.

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Speaker 2: Part of the reason why Gainwell was the team MVP

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Speaker 2: is that it was so surprising. It wasn't just a

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Speaker 2: could have won it that way, And that's saying something.

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Speaker 3: That's the other thing about it.

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Speaker 4: It's a commentary on the sad state of affairs of

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Speaker 4: the Steelers offense too, that that was the person that

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Speaker 2: Of they lost their team MVP, and no one's really

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Speaker 3: In fact, people are saying they upgrade the upgrade right.

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Speaker 2: So from that standpoint, I think I'll go with Dowdell.

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Speaker 2: But the Pittman thing, it was a close decision for me,

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Speaker 2: And again, getting Pittman might be much like the running

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Speaker 2: a player. Him coming here helps DK more than I

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Speaker 2: think it helps Aaron Rodgers or whoever.

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Speaker 3: The quarterbacks shot, like, you're.

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Speaker 2: Getting a guy right now who was Indianapolis's number two

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Speaker 2: last year and probably should be a good team's number three.

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Speaker 4: Probably is not a number one. I don't quite know

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Speaker 4: if Pittman's a number two. I think if you get

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Speaker 4: a good draft choice rookie wide receiver very quickly Pittman

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Speaker 4: can be a number three, vastly overpaid number three, but

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Speaker 4: like your JSN in like two years time. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: he becomes the number one wide receiver. DK slides into

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Speaker 4: that number two. Now DK has nowhere to go no

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Speaker 4: and an upper echelon number two at that I would

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Speaker 4: think with DK metcalf and then Michael Pittman slides into

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Speaker 4: that for eschelon number three, so you all of a

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Speaker 4: him blossoming into a legitimate, nailed on number one receiver.

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Speaker 4: I think Pittman is a number two. Like I feel

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Speaker 4: more comfortable saying that he's a legitimate number two wide

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you that, but I do want them

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Speaker 2: to get a wide receiver that's good enough that within

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Speaker 2: a year it's a no doubt thing that he's the

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Speaker 2: third best wide receiver on the rock.

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Speaker 4: The ceiling needs to be higher on one of these guys. Yes,

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Speaker 2: That and one good thing about Pittman is you can

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Speaker 2: have him be an outside the numbers guy, where he

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Speaker 2: spent about two thirds of his snaps this past season,

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Speaker 2: or you can run him out of the slot position

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Speaker 2: get to all this with Kevin Bowen from one oh

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Speaker 2: seven to five to fan. An Indian covers the Colts,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna talk to us about him more in depth.

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Speaker 2: But that's sort of the scouting report. He will use

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Speaker 2: the middle of the field, and he's good at it,

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Speaker 2: and the Steelers are not. So if you have a

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Speaker 2: whoever the quarterback is will be tempted to use it

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Speaker 4: And the Steelers were not good at using the middle

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Speaker 4: of the field. But with the new regime offensively, as

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Speaker 4: far as McCarthy, don't you think that there is a

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Speaker 4: chance that they will utilize the middle of the field

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Speaker 4: a lot more. Now Rogers could obviously be the flying

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Speaker 4: But like as far as the overall plan is concerned,

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Speaker 4: for McCarthy in that offense, it would be baffling to

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Speaker 4: me for him to all of a sudden, He's saw

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Speaker 4: find that hard to believe. So to your point, I

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Speaker 4: think you're gonna get that more within the scheme, and

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Speaker 4: now you have a guy in Pittman who's really good

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Speaker 4: at that. They can't be done at wide receiver though,

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Speaker 4: not a chance. I still think first round has to

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Speaker 2: They could go on trade and acquire somebody else if

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Speaker 2: they want, and then just use a late round pick

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Speaker 2: on a receiver. That would be fine too, But they

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Speaker 2: need somebody better right now than.

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Speaker 3: Ben Scaronic or Roman Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't want to go into the season with

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Speaker 2: Scronic or Wilson one of those guys being their third receiver.

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Speaker 3: So they've got.

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Speaker 2: To use more trade or free agent capital on a

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Speaker 2: wide receiver three, or draft a rookie with cachet and

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Speaker 2: with the intent of that rookie playing a lot early

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Speaker 4: I would still honestly take a first round receiver and

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Speaker 4: then you have three third round picks. I might take

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Speaker 4: a receiver again in the third round, even though you

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Speaker 4: just got Pittman. It needs to be addressed in a

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Speaker 4: very serious manner still, because like you said, the top

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Speaker 4: two look really good now, but there's a huge drop

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Speaker 4: off off a cliff, and how about they moved into

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Speaker 4: top ten as far as receiving room money is concerned

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Speaker 4: in the end, like they have a top games just

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Speaker 4: two guys and Benny Sprow make up that like, so

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Speaker 4: they definitely, I think need to go to the draft

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Speaker 4: route here or get somebody in a trade that's on

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Speaker 4: an expiring deal that's pretty cheap, and not give them

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll mention this a little bit later and get

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Speaker 2: into a little bit more in depth in talking about

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Speaker 2: the quarterback situation. But you do know that the number

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Speaker 2: When Jeff Caple gets fired after this loss to Stanford,

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Speaker 4: I had that report where I was talking about Shire

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Speaker 2: My report was exactly that I had put out that

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Speaker 2: That basically was going to be Caple because I was

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Speaker 2: I didn't he go a year before that? Like Capele

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Speaker 4: It was supposed to be like another proving ground, even

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Speaker 3: Place that's not a smart bet.

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Speaker 2: In these conference tournaments when they don't have much light

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Speaker 3: They're minus three point fifty.

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Speaker 4: I would I would sprinkle some cheese on Miami the U.

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Speaker 2: Semis Penguins tonight as we watch here, twelve to seven

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Speaker 4: Such a great game. Almost ten minutes gone by and

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Speaker 3: What did I say before about getting kicked in the nuts?

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Speaker 3: It's happening over and over again right now.

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Speaker 2: Possession puke. Uh So the game tonight for the Pens.

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Speaker 2: You're on the acts against Carolina. They've got this five

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Speaker 3: Four do you say things at four would be acceptable?

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Speaker 2: He didn't want to admit five, maybe because it would

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Speaker 4: Well, I wanted them to get four on this high.

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Speaker 4: I want to see him get two against Carolina. Either start, oh,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna lose the shootout twice, you might as well

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Speaker 4: Sure thing, as long as it's not worth a teeth

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Speaker 4: because they're not barking behind you, No doubt you're not

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Speaker 3: They do it.

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Speaker 2: They might have done it last year for all I know,

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Speaker 2: This is a four time cycle with the Hurricane cash right,

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Speaker 4: They get them three times before the end of March. Now,

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Speaker 3: They have seventy points, and Vegas is not that good.

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Speaker 4: The Pacific is just a joke of a of a division, right,

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Speaker 2: one oh five nine the ex J Rutcher. I know

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Speaker 2: J for a long time, going back to his days

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Speaker 3: He knows the Bucks inside out.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna talk to us about Jammel Dean, the new

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers cornerback who the Steelers signed from the Bucks

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Speaker 4: three year, three six million dollar contract just a few

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Speaker 4: hours after the legal tampering period began.

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Speaker 3: Jay, how are you good to catch up with you again,

451
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Speaker 3: my friend? What's new?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Nothing much, just a couple of second place hockey teams too.

454
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Speaker 1: I know you will see the Pens down here April second,

455
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Speaker 1: so that should be fun. But yeah, always good to

456
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Speaker 1: catch up with your brother. Hope all is well on

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Speaker 1: your end.

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Speaker 3: What are the Steelers getting in Jamel Dean?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because I actually found a video that

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Speaker 1: I took of Jamel earlier this year after an interception

461
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Speaker 1: where Baker Mayfield walked by and said, wait to go Dean.

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Speaker 1: He goes, hey, thanks, Baker, Like this is one of

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Speaker 1: the nicest guys that I've covered in my decades of

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Speaker 1: covering sports in the Tampa Bay Area. He is one

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Speaker 1: of those dudes that you don't have to worry about

466
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Speaker 1: him getting into any kind of trouble He's one of

467
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Speaker 1: those down Earth loves football. He's a big dude. He

468
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Speaker 1: loves to tackle in space. He was one of those

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Speaker 1: guys that you know, Todd Bowles really really circled when

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Speaker 1: he came out of Auburn and said, that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of corner that I like. He's not a guy that's

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Speaker 1: afraid to make tackles out in space. Now he's his

473
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Speaker 1: advantage is he's a press guy. He's gonna get up

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Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage and that's where his strength

475
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Speaker 1: is really going to show. You saw some issues the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years when the Buccaneers unable to get

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback and he had a playoff and when

478
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Speaker 1: he played off, that's really not his strength. So that's

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Speaker 1: on Todd Bowles and the defensive coaching staff really not

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Speaker 1: putting him in a position to succeed. But if you

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Speaker 1: look at the Bucks where they were kind of middle

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Speaker 1: of the pack when he came to sacks last year,

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Speaker 1: and looking at the Steelers where they were sixth overall

484
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, I think having a guy

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Speaker 1: like TJ. Watt, having a guy to just be able

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Speaker 1: to get to the passer, maybe being able to get

487
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Speaker 1: to the quarterback, just rushing for and accentuating Jammel Deane's strength.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to fit in beautifully. I was

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Speaker 1: trying to pick some man, you know, because I'm not

490
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Speaker 1: always all optimistic. I want to make sure that I'm

491
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Speaker 1: giving you guys the complete package. But I think out

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Speaker 1: of all the deals that I saw yesterday, when you

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Speaker 1: look at fit overall, I think Jamel Dean with the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those that really makes sense when you

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Speaker 1: look at the grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 3: If that's the case, then why were the Bucks willing

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Speaker 3: to let him go?

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the situation with the Bucks,

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Speaker 1: they need to change. They need a lot of change,

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Speaker 1: and it's not so much for him. I think he

501
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Speaker 1: kinda Sometimes you just you got to go in different directions.

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Speaker 1: You got to go in a different direction. And for

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, they're they're in the middle of a little

504
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Speaker 1: bit of an identity crisis right now. I mean, you

505
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Speaker 1: saw probably the biggest news in the NFL yesterday Mike

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Speaker 1: Evans leaving the Tampa Bay Buccaneers after twelve years to

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Speaker 1: go with the San Francisco forty nine Ers. This is

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Speaker 1: a guy that's sayed, twelve years here, he's going to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the Ring of Honor, probably a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer one day, and he's moving his family to

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Speaker 1: the state of California to get for fourteen million. It's

512
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Speaker 1: just there's a lot going on right here. And I

513
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Speaker 1: put a lot of what's gone wrong on Todd Bowles

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Speaker 1: and the defensive coaching staff. So Jamel Dean invested and

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Speaker 1: stayed in the Tampa Bay area and believed that Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowles is going to put him in a position to succeed,

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Speaker 1: and I think they kind of let him down a

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Speaker 1: little bit last year. Jamel is not a guy that

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Speaker 1: comes away with a lot of interceptions, but he had

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Speaker 1: a couple last year, So there's still, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think room to grow there, and with a different defensive

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Speaker 1: mindset and some different defensive voices, I think you could

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Speaker 1: see him even be a little bit more of a

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Speaker 1: ballhawk than we've seen so far in his career.

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Speaker 2: If that is the case, and it was a little

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Speaker 2: bit of an outlier to get a few last year,

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Speaker 2: is that normally because his coverage is good enough that

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Speaker 2: he's not targeted frequently, or is he a drop seat

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Speaker 2: cornerback or is it both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's probably more of the latter. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's just not one of those guys. They even choked

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Speaker 1: around when he when he had the interception, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I caught one, and that wasn't coming from the media,

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Speaker 1: that I was coming from the players. So it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a little bit of a running joke. So don't

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Speaker 1: expect to be, you know, one of those guys that's

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Speaker 1: coming away with six or seven picks next year. He

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Speaker 1: has his deficiencies as far as if he's playing off

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Speaker 1: the guy he can get you know, the receivers can

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Speaker 1: get behind him. But when we've seen him at his

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Speaker 1: best and going back to the twenty twenty Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: when he was paired up with Carlton Davis on the

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Speaker 1: other side and they were able to get home with

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Speaker 1: four pass rushers, with the shack Bear with Jason Pierre Paul,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at a guy that can be

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Speaker 1: really one of the better corners in the league when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about press coverage. And we saw that earlier

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Speaker 1: in the league or earlier in the year. Last year

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Speaker 1: when the Buccaneers are playing well and people thought they

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Speaker 1: were one of the best teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Jay Richard joined Jesse.

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Speaker 2: He covers the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Tim Benz filling in

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Speaker 2: for Mark madd today here on one O five nine

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Speaker 2: the X. All Right, So Jay, as far as his

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Speaker 2: run defense goes, because he's a good tackler in the

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Speaker 2: open field and open space, how willing is he in

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Speaker 2: the run game? Because that's always been such an important

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Speaker 2: part of who the Steelers want at corner. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it's as much as high on the priority

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Speaker 2: list for or what Patrick Graham is gonna want or

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Speaker 2: what Mike McCarthy is emphasizing, but I imagine it would help.

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Speaker 3: So how is he in the run game?

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's probably one of the biggest reasons

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Speaker 1: why I love this fit for him is because that's

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Speaker 1: what Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles, he has a type when

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Speaker 1: it comes to his corners. He wants bigger guys. He

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Speaker 1: wants guys that can help out in the run. And

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Speaker 1: he does kind of like, I'm not gonna get a

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Speaker 1: guy usually that's under six feet. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: get a guy that's necessarily a ball hawk. He has

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Speaker 1: a type we saw with Carlton Davis and then we

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Speaker 1: saw with Jamel Dean, So I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that Steeler fans are really gonna

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Speaker 1: love because he doesn't shy away from contact and Tim

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Speaker 1: you've seen that. Sometimes you have these corners that all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they look great because they can shoutow these receivers and

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Speaker 1: come away and pick off the ball every once in

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Speaker 1: a while. But you know, if you're going up against

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Speaker 1: the Derrick Henry, if you're going up against some of

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Speaker 1: these other big backs in the league, you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: that in the AFC North, and Jamel Dean's not going

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Speaker 1: to shy away from that. I think that's probably the

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Speaker 1: biggest reason why I like to fit with him in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Before we get off of this, Jay, let's just talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit more about scheme wise, how you might

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Speaker 2: see him flop over to the Steelers based on what

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Speaker 2: you saw with Bowles in Tampa versus you know, where

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Speaker 2: it might fit in with the Steelers in the sense

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Speaker 2: that they still have Ramsey, who I know you're familiar

590
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Speaker 2: with being down there in Florida seeing him with the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: He can slot it up, he can play safety, he

592
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Speaker 2: can play outside. Generally speaking, is Dean sort of a

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Speaker 2: hammer him in outside the numbers and he just kind

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Speaker 2: of plays an outside corner position, or if they want

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Speaker 2: to move mutual multiple chess pieces around, can he do

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Speaker 2: that with Jalen Ramsey presuming Joey Porter is hammered in

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Speaker 2: as one of the outside corners on the other side

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Speaker 2: of the field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you'll see him as an outside guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen the last couple of years the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers utilizing a couple of different players, you know, in

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Speaker 1: that slot position, whether it's one of the third corners,

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Speaker 1: or whether it's a safety as like an Antoline Wifid

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Speaker 1: Junior or at ta Kei Smith or an undrafted safety

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Speaker 1: that they got out of Rutgers and Christian Izzi And

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I think he's just a guy that it's

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Speaker 1: almost like the rough history even in the nineties from

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Speaker 1: Ronco set it and forget it. I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen with Jamel Dean. So you kind

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Speaker 1: of put him on one side and you have Joey

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Speaker 1: Porter on the other end Jaylen Ramsey. I mean that

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Speaker 1: secondary if those guys can get locked into those spots.

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Speaker 1: I think he could be one of the better secondaries

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Speaker 1: in the AFC for sure.

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Speaker 3: Real quick, what are the players getting in Low?

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Speaker 1: You're getting a guy in Brandon Low that doesn't look big.

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Speaker 1: He looks like a guy that could just kind of

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Speaker 1: walk down the street and you'll never know who he is.

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Speaker 1: But he's got some of the most power that you're

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Speaker 1: going to see from a guy that's not that big.

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Speaker 1: The ball explodes off of his bat. He's an underrated defender.

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Speaker 1: I think he's much better defender than he's gotten credit for.

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Speaker 1: And you're getting guys him if he plays one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty, one hundred and forty games. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: could see a guy at the twenty five home run

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Speaker 1: ninety ninety five RBI guy. The thing here is he

627
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Speaker 1: was streaky at times, but I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: that coincided with some of his health issues that he's had.

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Speaker 1: He's been relatively healthy the last couple of seasons, and

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get a damn good ballplayer if

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Speaker 1: you like. Again, if I said, if he plays one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty hundred and forty games, you're gonna really

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Speaker 1: enjoy him. Great guy, great guy. Too.

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Speaker 3: I was stunned they put Mangam in the deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you's a that's another guy. Listen for him the

636
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Speaker 1: way he's got a little quirky he's But it seems

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Speaker 1: like the Rays, since they don't go out and they

638
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Speaker 1: don't get those thirty home round one hundred RV guys,

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Speaker 1: they have a lot of dudes necessarily that are like that.

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Speaker 1: But Jake Bangham is a guy that you're gonna be

641
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Speaker 1: able to pin for in every day. He's going to

642
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Speaker 1: really excite fans because he plays every single game like

643
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Speaker 1: it's his last, and it's just it's a joy to watch.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that when you go there

645
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Speaker 1: with your kid and you watch like you want to

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Speaker 1: play like that guy. I was surprised too that they

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Speaker 1: threw him in there. He's exciting every single night you

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Speaker 1: go to the ballpark. Jake Bangham could do something to

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Speaker 1: surprise you. So, I I know, we have obviously the

650
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Speaker 1: famous deal with the Chris Archer trade, but this is

651
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Speaker 1: one of those where we'll see if it works out

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Speaker 1: for the Rays. But it's tough to see guys like

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Speaker 1: Law and Mangam go.

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Speaker 3: How'd you feel about that? Sabers Lightning game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're still talking about it today. Man, when

656
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Speaker 1: you have a team that's like the Lightning, they're up

657
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: seven to five and you're like, oh, it looks like

658
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna be okay, I after being down three nothing,

659
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: and then they lose eight to seven. I mean, Brandon

660
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: Hagel punch of people in the back of the head.

661
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, how come you Ginos suspended till like next year.

662
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean, look what happened with that.

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Speaker 1: It's so strange. I saw. I'm like, it's not like

664
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Speaker 1: Gino went over to him and tried to do the

665
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: old what was it, the old Marty mc sorely and

666
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: try to take his freaking head off, Like come on,

667
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: that was harsh even for me down here to say.

668
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh. But yeah, I mean we're

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Speaker 1: we're looking to see how they can bounce back tonight

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Speaker 1: against the Columbus Blue Jackets. The Lightning were twenty one

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Speaker 1: and one before the Olympic break, and as I stand

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Speaker 1: outside the arena here tonight and we'll see if they

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Speaker 1: can bounce back, because that was a crazy game on

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Speaker 1: sun or this speaking, yes Sunday night against Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Well, Pittsburgh would appreciate the help if you take care

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Speaker 2: of Columbus tonight.

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Speaker 4: So take care of business. Thanks, Jay, appreciate the insight

678
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Speaker 4: and all these matters.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Man talks soon, all right.

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Speaker 2: That is Jay Recher the Jay Retcher Podcast. Jay was

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Speaker 2: a part of the iHeartRadio family for a long time

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Speaker 2: over at WDAE and now is on his own doing

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Speaker 2: his own thing and doing a great job of it,

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Speaker 2: and good stuff on Jamel Dean Thom. It sounds like

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Speaker 2: he's endorsing your endorsements.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love that he had to say about

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Speaker 4: pressman coverage too, that he's really thriving as far as

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Speaker 4: that's concerned. Because that Matt Williamson has talked about. We

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Speaker 4: do the show Wednesday with him at Parks Social during

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Speaker 4: the season. He's talked about for a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: How Joey Porter Junior. He can play his own, but

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Speaker 4: he's a man press coverage guy to be at his best,

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Speaker 4: and Dean's gonna allow him to do that. All right,

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Speaker 4: we come back. It's the trifecta. But you're not gonna

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Speaker 4: tell me what it is?

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Speaker 3: Are you you'd want to know we talk You already

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Speaker 3: know what it is. We can break the fourth wall here?

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Speaker 3: Oh we can.

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Speaker 4: Says something I like since his tournament time. Let's just

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Speaker 4: talk about some old big east Man right old enough

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Speaker 1: It's got to be.

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Speaker 2: your back, not your wallets. What's the tri effect today?

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Speaker 4: Since we have conference tournaments starting around college basketball? Pitt

721
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: currently playing right now in the ACC Tournament were two

722
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: alumni of the Big East, the real Big East, when

723
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Speaker 4: it was the best conference by far in college basketball.

724
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Speaker 4: So I thought we'd chase some of our favorite moments.

725
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: Top three moments from the Big East Tournament. Of course

726
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: some people might have others, but number three, I think

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Speaker 4: I'll go with the Ray Allen floater against Georgetown III

728
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: as a chance to then come back, but misses his

729
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: shot on the other end of the court. Just an

730
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: epic showdown between Georgetown and Yukon. Really when the Big

731
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: East was kind of reaching its prime right of being

732
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: like the top dog. And well, that actual prime happened

733
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Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty five, eighty five, okay.

734
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Speaker 3: And then the three teams that went to the Final

735
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Speaker 3: four four together. But which of those two teams made

736
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Speaker 3: the final that year in nineteen ninety six? Do you remember?

737
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Speaker 3: Wasn't it? Was it serious?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: It was? It was a true question. You made this final?

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Speaker 3: You lost though?

741
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Speaker 1: Right?

742
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: They lost in the semis? I think right? Okay, I care.

743
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: I think it was to Yukon. Might have actually even

744
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: been to be see the week before the game before. Rather,

745
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: Boston College was sneaky good. And that year was the

746
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: best year of college basketball I ever saw in my

747
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: life because it was Ray Allen at Yukon, Allen Iverson

748
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Speaker 2: at Georgetown, the Kerrie Kittles, Alvin Williams, Jason Lawson, Zeffi

749
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Speaker 2: Penn team at Villanova, and Dania Abrams and Schooney Penn

750
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Speaker 2: at BC and John Wallace and Syracuse went to the

751
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Speaker 2: Final four. Yeah, you brought up eighty five three I

752
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: think they had. I think both Yukon and Georgetown were

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Speaker 2: number one seeds that year and one lost in the

754
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Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen and the other lost in the lead eight.

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Speaker 4: He brought up the eighty five three Big East teams

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Speaker 4: in the final four year. That's incredibly impressive. It's probably

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Speaker 4: more impressive than this. But what about the year when

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00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: three Big East teams were one seed? It was Louisville,

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Speaker 4: Pitt and I think Yukon were one seeds that year. That's,

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Speaker 4: in its own way, that's more impressive because that's a

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Speaker 4: body of work kind of thing, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like a team could have gone during.

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Speaker 3: The conference, so you were still you're.

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Speaker 4: Still the number one one of the number one seeds,

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Speaker 4: So just an insane conference. Number two on this list though,

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Speaker 4: and this one pains me. I'd have to put the

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Speaker 4: Kemba Walker step.

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Speaker 3: That was going around the internet today.

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Speaker 4: It really might be one of the more iconic moments

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Speaker 4: from the tournament's history and just what it led to too

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Speaker 4: rightning out. I always look at that clip and the

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Speaker 4: first thing comesurvid is why didn't somebody else just come

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Speaker 4: up and shove Gary McGee away. I'll put a name

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Speaker 4: on it him. It's Brad Wannamaker. I see that clip

775
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Speaker 4: every time I close my eyes. Why the hell Brad

776
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Speaker 4: Wannamaker allowed Gary media? I got him, I got him

777
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Speaker 4: and wave them off. I will never understand that at all.

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00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 4: Just go double Kemba Walker. I would give another player

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00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 4: on that team a wide open layup before I would

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Speaker 4: have given Kemba Walker any sort of shot in that

781
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 4: kind of moment. And the fact that that led to

782
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Speaker 4: him not just winning the biggest tournament, but then winning

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Speaker 4: the entire freaking thing. One of the most incredible runs

784
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Speaker 4: in college sports, and McGee was just still posterized on it. Oh,

785
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: just it was the stumbling as you walking back. If

786
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Speaker 4: you had to like show an alien species what we

787
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Speaker 4: mean by we say breaking ankles in a basketball court,

788
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: you pull up that clip that was broken ankles. But

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Speaker 4: number one has to be year Boys against Yukon in

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00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 4: the was it six overtime game one hundred and twenty

791
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Speaker 4: seven to one, seventeen four hours of game time, of

792
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 4: real time? Excuse me, six overtimes and just one of

793
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: those moments where like you're in that third overtime and

794
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: it just it's becoming larger than life, like you're realizing,

795
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: like you're in a moment in history while you're living it.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget that. And I'm not a Syracuse er.

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Speaker 2: You call and of course, like it ended with such

798
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: a punctuation mark at the end of I think it

799
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: was regulation when Eric Devendorf hit the shot, ran and

800
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: jumped on the broadcast table right in front of Bill Raftery,

801
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: and everybody was screaming and going crazy, and they took

802
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: the shot away rightfully.

803
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: It was it was. It was a good call. It

804
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: was a good call.

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00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: But a couple of stats in that game, six overtimes,

806
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: it wasn't a particularly well played game. One hundred and

807
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: twenty seven missed shots in that game. We Syracuse only

808
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: shot thirty eight percent. Yukon shot forty one percent. My

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00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: favorite guy from that game was probably a player that

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00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: some Pit fans might still remember, Paul Harris, who was

811
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: an athletic freak, but never could figure out the shooting

812
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: aspect of the game. He angel reased himself in. He

813
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: was angel reased before angel rees. He was getting his

814
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 2: own rebounds all night long. He had ten offensive rebounds.

815
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 2: I guarantee you nine of them were off his own misses.

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Speaker 4: You had to have close to a twenty rebound game then, right,

817
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 4: did he soar past that as far as overall twenty

818
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 4: two rebounds twenty two total rebounds for him? Yeah, the

819
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: game too just it started to become a slog, right.

820
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 4: Johnny Flynn had eleven assists, thirty four points.

821
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Speaker 3: He was freaky good. Do you get it?

822
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: You did not have a triple double. He had six steals,

823
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: and he was sixteen of sixteen from the free throw line.

824
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: Sixteen of sixteen.

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00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: That's dark. Novitzkys.

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Speaker 4: They only made nine three pointers the whole game, and

827
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: six of them were from Andy Routen's off The.

828
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: Nine of twenty three.

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Speaker 2: The whole game about a different era of basketball, right

830
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: right exactly? Well, then some of their star players weren't

831
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: very good at shooting. They were that type of team.

832
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: But that was that was an I'll never forget. What

833
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: I remember most about that game was finally going to bed,

834
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: and I was thinking to myself as I went to bed,

835
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: what if this had been the seven o'clock game?

836
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: Can you imagine being the fans? Could you imagine being

837
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: the radio broadcast crew for the nine o'clock game, the

838
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: nine o'clock game that had to go on early and

839
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: just stall for five overtimes? Worth like, imagine hill Grove

840
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 4: having to tap dance for five overtimes? Is that game

841
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 4: Hill Grove and Growth tap dancing for five overtimes?

842
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: Think about that?

843
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: If Pitt had played whoever in the nine o'clock game

844
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 4: and Syracuse and Yukon pushed it to six overtimes and

845
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 4: you had to wait for that.

846
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: As the broadcast team, I was just.

847
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: Broken into play by play of the game that's going

848
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: on legal you know what we're calling the Syracuse That's.

849
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: Actually pretty funny. I wonder if you could have gotten

850
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: away with it. I would have tried. That would have

851
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: been That would have been a boss move.

852
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call this fifth overtime for the fifth overtime,

853
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call it like we should have called it the.

854
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: Way we wanted it to call it to end the game.

855
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: That's how it should have gone. But I've always thought

856
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: about that, like watching that game, because I think the

857
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: next night Syracuse went to overtime against Virginia and won, right, yes,

858
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 2: and then they got clobbered by the Louisville just cleaned

859
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: job seward Gas and.

860
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: Then Louisville went on to win the championship. No, no, yeah,

861
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: they did Louisville one thousand and nine. Was that two

862
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: thousand and nine?

863
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was the year Louisville won the championship.

864
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: But at any rate, they won the Big East that

865
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: year and they just rocked it. We were exhausted. Oh

866
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: my god, you had no chance. But I do remember

867
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: us going to overtime against West Virginia, and I think

868
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: it was Louisville who was in the tunnel and you

869
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: could just see it on their faces because that night

870
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: they were the nine o'clock game and they were waiting

871
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: on us. So I don't remember how or why it

872
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: broke out that way, but it did. It looked like

873
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: that was the year of the Tar Hills. Actually, oh,

874
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: you wouldn't see one, okay, thousand nine nine tournament, Yeah,

875
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: you n c. But I do remember waking up the

876
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: next morning doing the next morning show here.

877
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you should have even McLaughlin.

878
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: McLaughlin like looks at me. He was anticipating me not

879
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: showing up to work that day. He's like, what are

880
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: you doing here? I can't believe you're awake in here?

881
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: You know here?

882
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: That was actually, I'm sorry, just coming. It was the

883
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: year the three one Saints. It was the Yukon Leval

884
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: and Pitt with the one SATs here. That's probably that's

885
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: why I was thinking of Louisville because they'd won the

886
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: Turn of the Big East. So Bob thought, you were

887
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 4: you were done, You're just not gonna show ye. He

888
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: was getting ready to do the whole shit. So I

889
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 4: come walking in. He's like, what are you doing? I

890
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: was like, well, I made it, you know, yeah. I

891
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: was up the whole night.

892
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: I watched the whole night, and I got through the

893
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: whole like opening segment, and I didn't even mention the game.

894
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: I just mentioned that they won in six overtimes, and

895
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Bob and I sort of bantered about it very quickly,

896
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 2: but with just like a pass it and the phone

897
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: line start lighting up. It was like just pitt basketball

898
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: fans or Pittsburgh basketball fans wanting.

899
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: To talk about that game.

900
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: Was like, my whole attitude coming in was I'm not

901
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: going to shove this down people's throats.

902
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: This is my team again. I'm a Syracuse guy. I'm

903
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: not gonna make everybody listen to this. So my goal

904
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 4: was just to, you know, kind of acknowledge how great

905
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 4: of a game. That's all we talked about for four

906
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: hours was people wanted to talk about that game because

907
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: they stood up and watched it, because there was a

908
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: fandom for college basketball in this that was that league.

909
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: They were special. It was a one seed that year,

910
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: so there was people around. You want all of those schools.

911
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: I want Notre Dame and pitt and Syracuse and BC

912
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: just to go back to the Big East.

913
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Notre Dames in seven different conference. Dream

914
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: of it is in seven different conferences. It doesn't matter anymore.

915
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, we already have the logo and the infrastructure

916
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: kind of in place.

917
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: Just Jump needs us for football as much as we

918
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: need the ACC because of the Dippy alignment. You want

919
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: to still be a power for you got a hold on,

920
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: hold on us. Let everybody kick the crap out of

921
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: us in football, that's fine. But bring basketball back to

922
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 4: the Big East and put us back to the garden.

923
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 4: But nobody's look at this, Look at these stands out.

924
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 4: There's nobody watching this. Do you know who beat you

925
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: in the Sweet sixteen the year in two thousand and nine,

926
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 4: by the way, that was Butler.

927
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: No, the Jeff Caple led Oklahoma sau they were better.

928
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: Jeff cape will beat you. I think we'd beat James

929
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: Harden though, Yeah you did. You took out Arizona State

930
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 2: beat Arizona State the game before. Yeah, and Hurley, right,

931
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: this was one of Hurley's thinks out all right. The

932
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: second best piece of video besides the guy who got

933
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: kicked in the yards of the hur video, the Hurley

934
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: video where they both got technicals at the same time

935
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: in the Fox double box. There's never been a more

936
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: hurly moment in the history of mankind than those two

937
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: getting technicals at once, simultaneous ejectulation for the two of.

938
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: Them they both got a coach team USA in the

939
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: next Olympics. They should be on the same bench together.

940
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: If those two coach team USA, I'm gonna pull Madden

941
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: root for Canada.

942
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: One five, nine The X