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Speaker 1: It's that Pesky Wicker versus Philmore. If you're growing wheat

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Speaker 1: Have a great day, Brian, you too, Tom, And to

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Speaker 1: with reality. He suggested the GOP should learn something that

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Speaker 1: screening communist and socialist that run of the mill Democrats

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Speaker 1: doesn't move even diehard mag of voters, he said. Explaining

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Speaker 1: why Democrats' policies will raise the costs or hurt jobs

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Speaker 1: and offering constructive, forward looking agenda's much better approach. Explaining

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Speaker 1: why is the problem. It's easy to explain why, but

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Speaker 1: you need to keep someone's attention long enough to understand it.

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Speaker 1: This whole shutdown the idea that people can ultimately conclude

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Speaker 1: that the shutdown is the Republican's fault, that is clearly

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Speaker 1: a reflection of their ignorance as to what led to it.

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Speaker 1: You have to walk through the steps got us to

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Speaker 1: the shutdown. You have to understand what the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: demanding to open the government up, and yes it is

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Speaker 1: one point two trillion dollars in cost, but ultimately why

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Speaker 1: they want to include this one point two trillion dollars

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Speaker 1: in cost in connection with these subsidies. You got to

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Speaker 1: go through the whole process and analysis. It's a hell

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Speaker 1: a lot easier to just put an evil orange man

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Speaker 1: meme up there and scream fascism for whatever reason that

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Speaker 1: seems to resonate. But the only reason that can resonate.

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Speaker 1: And I've been going back to this a million different

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Speaker 1: times because people apparently don't understand what fascism means. If

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Speaker 1: you can sell somebody to Trump is somehow a fascist.

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Speaker 1: The only thing he has connected with fascism, and he's

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Speaker 1: the dynamic personality. But you know who else was Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama extraordinarily dynamic personality. His picture was everywhere, they had

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Speaker 1: the multi colored poster you know, Hope. I mean that

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Speaker 1: was more reminiscent of something you might see in Hitler's

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Speaker 1: brown sure days, and during the Hitler regime with posters

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Speaker 1: everywhere and pictures of him everywhere, like Mussolini and every

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Speaker 1: other dictator, they put him up everywhere. That's a component

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Speaker 1: of fascism, that prominent figurehead. But beyond that, he's deregulating.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to grease the skids and make it easier

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Speaker 1: for business and industry, which is nothing remotely close to

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Speaker 1: what fascism does, which is control every element of business

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Speaker 1: and industry. Five three seven fifty two three talk got

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Speaker 1: some stack as stupid coming up, including in honor of

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Speaker 1: iHeart met the aviation expert Jay Ratliffe headline, Mile High

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Speaker 1: Duo gets off records. We'll get thank you, Jess dereckor QC.

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Speaker 1: Kinetics though, is the place where you get rid of

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Speaker 1: your pain and get rid of it by helping your

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Speaker 1: bus station by forty three fifty five KR City Talk

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Speaker 1: station jump straight into the Phone's got John on the

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Speaker 1: line right now. Has a comment, John, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: morning show. Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning. I actually have to go to work

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Speaker 2: because millions on welfare are depending on me.

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Speaker 1: Good for you from each, according to each, according magnique.

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Speaker 2: Let me make this real quick. You know who should

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Speaker 2: be in the stack of stupid.

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Speaker 1: Brian, go ahead, huh, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to tell you you should be in

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Speaker 2: the stack of stupid. The Republican Party for letting these

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Speaker 2: democrats ass clowns beat them with with with people like

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Speaker 2: a pure Vaul that should be in the stack of stupid.

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Speaker 2: The Republican Party should be in the stack of stupid.

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Speaker 2: Have a nice day.

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Speaker 1: You sound like about half a dozen listeners that I

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Speaker 1: talked to yesterday at listener lunch. John. Yes, a lot

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Speaker 1: of blame being levied towards the Republican Party here in

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Speaker 1: Hamilton County, generally speaking, many people having to go at

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Speaker 1: the state Republican Party as well. Lots of people believe

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Speaker 1: the failure was in that. There's a certain amount of agreement.

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Speaker 1: I want to go in acknowledge on that. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know what effort the Republican Party can engage in

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Speaker 1: to get people to go actually vote. I mean that

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Speaker 1: needs to be the driving force. You have to go vote.

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Speaker 1: And we knew it over and over again, talk about

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Speaker 1: it weeks and weeks leading up to the election. If

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Speaker 1: you just get up and vote, the city's only going

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Speaker 1: to have a twenty five percent turnout. Your vote can

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Speaker 1: mean volumes in terms of change. Nope, didn't happen. I

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Speaker 1: think the stack is stupid. There really should probably be

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Speaker 1: in that sort of Hyde Park bond Hill thing, given

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Speaker 1: that they were dumped on by the city administration, yet

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Speaker 1: they went overwhelmingly in favor of Parlvall and the current administration,

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Speaker 1: same council members pretty much across the board, with the

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Speaker 1: exception of one newbie an honor of I heartby the

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Speaker 1: Aviation next for Jay Rattleff. Get this one real quick here.

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Speaker 1: The married couple got arrested for well allugedly joining the

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Speaker 1: mile High club while on a Jet Blue flight trist

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Speaker 1: Riley forty three and Christopher Arnold, two, flying off to Sarasota, Florida,

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Speaker 1: from New York. Female passenger told police that she was

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Speaker 1: traveling with her two children when during the takeoff from

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Speaker 1: JFK International, she spotted a woman later identified as Riley,

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Speaker 1: providing a manual pleasure service to her male companion. See

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Speaker 1: I'm being delicate here. She noticed that, she said, two

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Speaker 1: of my children were watching them, and they didn't stop.

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Speaker 1: After that. She was laying on him like if she

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Speaker 1: was going to do a different performance involving a different

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Speaker 1: part of her body, not that. One Joe Jet Blue

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Speaker 1: flight attendant named Brian Zepp told police that several youths

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Speaker 1: and their mother had witnessed Riley and Arnold performing a

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Speaker 1: sexual activity on board the jet flight. Jet Blue flight,

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Speaker 1: adding that he walked to missus Riley's seating area in

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Speaker 1: the twenty fifth row and witnessed her making what he

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Speaker 1: described as and I don't know what this means, Joe,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can interpret it for me, up and down

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Speaker 1: movements with her head. Do you know what that means?

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Speaker 2: Phrasing?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, investigators know the further investigation indicator that Riley was

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Speaker 1: seen by two underage us performing a certain sexual act

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Speaker 1: or actually two different ones on mister Arnold after the

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Speaker 1: pairs July nineteen, the rest Sarasota by the Sarasota Police

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Speaker 1: Prosecutors consented to their own recognizance, so no bond case

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Speaker 1: review revealed October thirtieth court notices revealing the prosecutors had

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Speaker 1: dropped the criminal charges. They're no longer pursuing criminal charges

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Speaker 1: against them. So, as the article suggests, Joe, they got

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Speaker 1: off five six. I know, yes, I am being childish.

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Speaker 1: I apologized, but you know that's what the stack is

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Speaker 1: stupid is for in part anyway, And the Chimney Care

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Speaker 1: fireplace and STUFFA five two five KRC detalk station, What

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Speaker 1: did to talk about? Congressman Warren Davidson seven o five

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Speaker 1: The return to Kurt Hartman and power? Are you similar

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Speaker 1: tonight seven pm Sunshine Laws and then Keegan Corcoran's gonna

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Speaker 1: tell us which wine we should be drinking with the

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Speaker 1: election loss blues. That'll be at a thirty Purdue University

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Speaker 1: West Lafe in Indiana, campus police working on with well

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Speaker 1: witnesses about an unusual situation unfolding on campus yesterday. Officers

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Speaker 1: got a call to the Active Learning Center but a

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Speaker 1: person covered in peanut butter from head to toe? Why

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Speaker 1: are you doing that? I don't know that we'll ever

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Speaker 1: find out me. I love this. So you see a

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Speaker 1: guy walking around covered head toe with peanut butter? If

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Speaker 1: that's not unusual enough. The concern the potential danger for

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Speaker 1: people with peanut analogies. WLFIVE reporting DOOS eighteen arrived shortly

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Speaker 1: after observing an increased police presence and confused students. Students

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Speaker 1: reported seeing the man walking around on campus. Cleaning crews

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Speaker 1: called into his sanitized services, coated in peanut butter and cornered.

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Speaker 1: Officers not known whether the man is a student or

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Speaker 1: if this was or was not a hazing Situation's situation

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Speaker 1: Efforts underway with campus police to gather more information not

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Speaker 1: part of the hazing process that I went through in college.

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Speaker 1: Not really through hazing though. Let's see here tomorrow Tech Friday,

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Speaker 1: Dave Patrol if we'll be talking about this, but we could.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin man arrested for stalking after police said he used Grinder,

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Speaker 1: which is a dating app, to send strangers to victims'

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Speaker 1: homes as a form of harassment. Coming to a home

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Speaker 1: near you. Matthew Hubschmunn accused of what police call a

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Speaker 1: year long pattern of disturbing and intrusive behavior. They say

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Speaker 1: he used a dating app, Grinder to arrange meetings between

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Speaker 1: unknown men and the victim. He would pose as the victim,

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Speaker 1: according to police, then direct the men to the victim's

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Speaker 1: home and instruct them to enter the residence upon arrival, phrasing,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking that could be setting somebody up to

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Speaker 1: get shot Castle doctrine. Over the course of more than

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Speaker 1: a year, numerous men showed up at the victim's home

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Speaker 1: under the false pretenses. Police said that the harassment created

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Speaker 1: a constant sense of fear and distress for the victim.

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Speaker 1: Suspect reportedly positioned himself nearby to watch the men show up,

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Speaker 1: and the police said that ultimately led to his arrest.

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Speaker 1: Taking to the out Gammy Court or out of Gammy

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Speaker 1: County Jail for one kind of stalking, probably Joe. He

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Speaker 1: appeared in court where the judge said a ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars bond also ordered him to stay away from the

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Speaker 1: victim and stay away from dating apps, including, of course Grinder,

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Speaker 1: but not exclusively Grinder. Preliminary hearings scheduled for tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: the out of Gami County Court if you're in the area.

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Speaker 1: They're also looking for anybody else that his information related.

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Speaker 1: At six and six Air fifty five Kerosene Talk station,

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas wish and everybody very happy Friday Eve and

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Speaker 1: inviting you to stick around all morning, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you can. Congressman Warren Davidson's coming up in an hour.

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Speaker 1: We'll get the latest on the showdown and the shutdown.

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Speaker 1: Will the Republicans flinch? A good question, longest shutdown in

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Speaker 1: American history and starting to feel it. Couse air traffic alone,

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Speaker 1: ten percent reduction in air traffic out there, a lot

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Speaker 1: of delays, a lot of folks not showing up for work.

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Speaker 1: And again ant of the guy I met yesterday came

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Speaker 1: up from Kentucky to let me know that he in

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Speaker 1: fact had been placed on furlough.

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Speaker 7: See.

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Speaker 1: He was the first person I met that has been

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Speaker 1: directly impacted by the shutdown. But it is having broader implications,

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Speaker 1: so will someone at Flinch empower you. Kurt Hartman shows

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Speaker 1: up at eight oh five talk about the Sunshine Law

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Speaker 1: programmer seminar. He's going to be given tonight seven pm

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Speaker 1: empower Youoamerica dot org and then a little relief. Normally

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Speaker 1: iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, but since he has

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Speaker 1: Bell's palsy and I'm asking my listeners to pray for him,

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Speaker 1: he'll get over it. Brady, God that happens, and he'll

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Speaker 1: be back soon or rather than later. Jay Rattliff, get

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Speaker 1: well quick. But Keegan Corkoran returns our Resident Samier, if

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Speaker 1: you lost the election, what kind of wine do you

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Speaker 1: drink with that? Thank you Joe Drecker for the levity.

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Speaker 1: And since Pat brought it up early, you can feel

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Speaker 1: for to call five one three, seven four nine fifty

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Speaker 1: eight hundred two three thought. But it Pat patted early

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Speaker 1: in the program mentioned education, and I've been kind of

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Speaker 1: holding off on this wonderfully astute observation. Op ed piece

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Speaker 1: by Jack Miller, who's the founder and chairman of amritas

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Speaker 1: of the Jack Miller Center for Teaching America's founding principles

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Speaker 1: and History. And she had mentioned education, and part of

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Speaker 1: me thought immediately of this Mom Dannie proposal in New

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Speaker 1: York universal childcare, and of course we had this in

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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. I'm not quite sure where it's gone,

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Speaker 1: but it seems to me to be a tragic thing

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Speaker 1: when you have a child and you immediately handed over

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Speaker 1: to the state for or the city whatever, you handed

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Speaker 1: over to government for all the education and in actually

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Speaker 1: raising the child itself bodies. Universal childcare in New York

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Speaker 1: would cost would cover ready six week olds through five

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Speaker 1: year olds, and then of course throw off the kindergarten

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Speaker 1: K through twelve and then off to some left wing university.

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Speaker 1: So we've seen the progression of woke ideology starts with

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Speaker 1: college education a couple of decades ago. You get all

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Speaker 1: these left wingers coming out of college, they graduate, they

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Speaker 1: get their teaching certificates, they go out into the K

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Speaker 1: through twelve education realm. They start perpetuating and passing along

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Speaker 1: this woke ideology and doctrinating students and never ever, ever, ever,

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Speaker 1: mentioning the founding fathers, the founding principles, or what made

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Speaker 1: this country great. It has been eradicated. That's the subject

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Speaker 1: matter of the point. The right tactions have consequences. The

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Speaker 1: lack of consequences in an action has also has consequences.

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Speaker 1: America is in the throes of an epidemic of civil

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Speaker 1: illiteracy that can be traced to half a century of

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Speaker 1: not teaching the principles, history, and documents of her founding

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Speaker 1: in our most prestigious universities down to the primary school classrooms,

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Speaker 1: the teaching of our pre partisan founding principles and history

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Speaker 1: has been downgraded and corrupted, leading to at least two

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Speaker 1: generations of Americans without the knowledge to be participants in

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Speaker 1: self government or the resolve to defend our republic as

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Speaker 1: it as though that we weren't worn by George Washingt,

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Speaker 1: who identified education in civics as an essential pillar of

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Speaker 1: freedom in the earliest days of our republic, and much

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Speaker 1: more recently by the late Supreme Court Justice Sandra O'Connor,

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Speaker 1: who reminded us that civic knowledge was not passed from

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Speaker 1: generation to generation in the gene pool, but rather must

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Speaker 1: be taught and re taught to each new class of

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Speaker 1: rising Americans. The great Americans have always understood that maintaining

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Speaker 1: our freedom depends on passing down our founding principles and

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Speaker 1: history through education. In the twentieth century, Ronald Reagan also

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Speaker 1: reminded us of freedom's fragility. But it's never been more

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Speaker 1: than one generation away from extinction. He once said, It's

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Speaker 1: not ours by the way of inherent It must be

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Speaker 1: fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it

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Speaker 1: comes only once to a people. He was channeling the

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Speaker 1: insights of other great Americans, such as Abraham Lincoln Frederick Douglas,

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Speaker 1: who understood that our heritage, heritage, and our liberty is

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Speaker 1: grounded and enduring moral truths about equal dignity of all

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Speaker 1: human beings. Seems as though those truths are no longer

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Speaker 1: self evident to our republic. Political violence is on the rise,

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Speaker 1: and intolerance to colors too many of our intolerance colors

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Speaker 1: too many of our public debates and even private discussions.

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Speaker 1: It's no exaggeration to say that these are sorry consequences

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Speaker 1: of a civil illiteracy epidemic that has raged in our

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Speaker 1: body politic untreated for years. Yet it would be wrong

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Speaker 1: to blame the crisis merely on the emergence of competing

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Speaker 1: narratives like the New York Times sixteen nineteen project, which

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Speaker 1: traces US history to the arrival of slaves and our

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Speaker 1: shores and labels Americans as irredeemably racist. This and other

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Speaker 1: narratives filled a void that was created by a shameful

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Speaker 1: inaction for civil education. Notice the emphasis the civic education

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Speaker 1: crisis our country fass seems to us to be part

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Speaker 1: of a larger cultural malaise, one that fails to foresee

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Speaker 1: the consequences of our inactions in other realms of society,

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Speaker 1: and then, once demonstrated, fails to do anything about them. Consider,

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Speaker 1: for instance, inactions to prosecute petty thefts under one thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars that have led to the exodus of retailers and

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Speaker 1: no longer able to run their businesses in areas prone

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Speaker 1: to these crimes. Similarly, cash free bail has led to

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Speaker 1: the release of repeat offenders into society, where they again

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Speaker 1: commit crimes, some of them violent. Indeed, of our actions

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Speaker 1: as a nation sometimes have have had tragic consequences in wars, segregation,

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Speaker 1: and financial mismanagement. So have we as Americans demonstrated that

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Speaker 1: these sometimes devastating results of our inaction. It's not an

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Speaker 1: overstatement to trace at least some of these problems of

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Speaker 1: our society to an insufficient understanding of the rights and

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Speaker 1: responsibilities of citizens in a free society and the values

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Speaker 1: they must share. A requisite understanding of these starts in

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Speaker 1: the home. I guess at six weeks, when you remove

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Speaker 1: from the home, you only got six weeks of opportunity

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Speaker 1: with your baby to teach them civics. I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: the New York education system is going to enlighten all

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Speaker 1: of your young people in a profound, thorough civics lesson.

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Speaker 1: I had to interject, which was kind of one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons I wanted to dive on into this. You're

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Speaker 1: handing over the keys to your child's indoctrination from six

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Speaker 1: weeks of age all the way through college under the proposal,

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Speaker 1: and none of it's going to include a Civics lesson anyway.

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Speaker 1: People inspired with greater confidence in their civic tradition, however,

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Speaker 1: have the power to stop the march of tyranny. This

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Speaker 1: is we thankfully do not currently face the kind of

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Speaker 1: revolutionary extremism that led to the catastrophe in the last century.

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Speaker 1: Our civic health is trending in the wrong direction. More

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Speaker 1: and more young people are turning to socialism, communism, or

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Speaker 1: other forms of radicalism because they have not been educated

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Speaker 1: in how our American form of government provides the greatest

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Speaker 1: individual freedom and opportunity. Ben He mentions his organizations, Jack

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Speaker 1: Miller Center, and all the efforts they're taking to try

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Speaker 1: to bring back civic education across the education spectrum. But

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Speaker 1: is it too late? Are people going to embrace it

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Speaker 1: and welcome his type of organization or maybe make the

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Speaker 1: choice of sending children to a place like the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Classical Academy so they will get a thorough understanding of

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Speaker 1: America's founding principles. It's a good question, I doubt. Under

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Speaker 1: Mamdami's New York six weeks old through College Education proposal

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Speaker 1: that the Classical Academy will be an option for any

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Speaker 1: parents in New York said reform must begin with acknowledging

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Speaker 1: the crisis at hand. Due to generations of inaction, Americans

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Speaker 1: are forgetting who we are supposed to be. Popular historian

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Speaker 1: David McCullough once said, something's eating away at the national

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Speaker 1: memory and a nation or community or a society can

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Speaker 1: suffer as much from the adverse effects of amnesia as

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Speaker 1: can an individual. Especially as the two hundred and fiftieth

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Speaker 1: anniversary of our country's birth approaches, it has never been

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Speaker 1: more important to remember who we are and to act

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Speaker 1: so that those memories come alive for the next generation

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Speaker 1: of citizens. I think he's definitely onto something, and one

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Speaker 1: thing I will observe. As terrible as Castro's Cuba is

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Speaker 1: still to this day and as crazy as it was,

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Speaker 1: he won the revolution got a little help from the CIA,

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Speaker 1: who didn't really have a keen understanding of Castro's politics,

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Speaker 1: which was a total embarrassment. Well, we got duped by

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, who made him out like this

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Speaker 1: hero in the mountains fighting against the evil batiase the regime,

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Speaker 1: and that was evil. When it comes out the other side,

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Speaker 1: he wins a conflict in he's a devout communist. Oh whoops,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. But what did he do

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Speaker 1: from that moment forward? In addition to forcing people to

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Speaker 1: stand in four or five, sometimes six hour speeches about

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Speaker 1: the revolution and communism, they taught it literally every day

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Speaker 1: from that moment forward in the classroom the revolution. They

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Speaker 1: talked about the revolution, the founding principles, how do we

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Speaker 1: come together and take over this country? We call Cuba

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Speaker 1: the revolution. What was behind the revolution? Marxism, communism, They

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Speaker 1: pounded it into the people's head twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 1: The education system was predicated on teaching the revolution. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if we took one tenth of that sort of concept

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Speaker 1: and ideas for education, our kids would get at least

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Speaker 1: some Civics education in the classroom. We quit taking it seriously.

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Speaker 1: We forgot what made us great. We forgot it was

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Speaker 1: taxation without representation. We forgot all the doors being kicked in,

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Speaker 1: and one of the reasons we have the Fourth Amendment

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Speaker 1: in the United States Constitution. We didn't teach our children

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Speaker 1: about the like the for example, the problems the colonists

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Speaker 1: faced with the Church of England and the mandated taxation

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Speaker 1: to keep the church down the street that maybe you

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Speaker 1: didn't even belong to. The colonists incorporated. Well, the First Amendment,

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Speaker 1: Free exercise and no establishment. We're not a theocracy. We

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Speaker 1: have the freedom. That freedom came from their lived experience.

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Speaker 8: On and on and on.

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Speaker 1: All these reasons why it's valuable and important to teach

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Speaker 1: our children these so they can see it when it's

776
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Speaker 1: coming and reject the idea that they're going to capitulate

777
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: well and let someone trot over the freedoms and liberty

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Speaker 1: six sixteen Mike or Brian. I see her on the phone.

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00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: I want to take your call, but amount of time

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Speaker 1: rambling honestly six twenty two about car City Talk Station

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Speaker 1: D two three talks Brian didn't want to hang out.

782
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: That's okay. You can feel free to call if you like.

783
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Speaker 1: And going back to the founding principles and having an

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Speaker 1: understanding of it and being grounded in them and believing

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Speaker 1: in them as I do, it provides an excellent springboard

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Speaker 1: for all topics of conversation. I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: a firm set of principles, a little el libertarian, Brian.

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Speaker 1: I trust you with your wallet, I trust you with

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Speaker 1: your zipper. I don't want to control your life. I

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00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: think that's the best way to go through life, not

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Speaker 1: being heavy in terms and conditions of your life dictated

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Speaker 1: to you. So I can approach everything in every subject

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Speaker 1: matter from that perspective, and I'll cling to my freedom

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Speaker 1: loving perspective. Doesn't always work out for everybody under that concept.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, but the world's an imperfect place. But

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Speaker 1: at least I have a grounded set of principles that

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Speaker 1: allow me to freely say what I think is on

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Speaker 1: my mind. Do I believe everyone believes in what I say?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 1: Do I believe that there are critics out of the

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Speaker 1: world who criticize what I say and my belief systems? Well,

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00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: of course I do. I understand that. Am I ever

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00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: going to win them over? I don't know, hopefully, but

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Speaker 1: maybe not. Maybe vile things are being said about me.

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00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: I honestly don't care. And I think that's the point

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Speaker 1: of why I only reason I wanted to bring this up,

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00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: because I know that's really the perception I think you

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00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: have to go through life you don't care. Boiled down.

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Speaker 1: Here's a great illustration of what I'm talking about. You

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Speaker 1: got this Broadway star, someone named Kristin Chenoweth. I'd never

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Speaker 1: heard of her before, and I rarely bring up celebrities

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Speaker 1: for any reason whatsoever. They have an opinion, find that's okay,

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Speaker 1: they're entitled to it. But in the aftermath of Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk's murder, she said, I mean I disagreed with him

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Speaker 1: on almost every point I ever had heard him say.

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Speaker 1: But I believe he was a man of faith, and

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Speaker 1: I hope in that moment when he died, that he

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Speaker 1: felt connected with his faith. Even though I find what

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Speaker 1: his ideas, even though I find his ideas were abhorrent

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Speaker 1: to me, I still believe he's a father and a

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Speaker 1: husband and a man of faith, and I hope whatever

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Speaker 1: connection to God means that he felt it. Now, that

823
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Speaker 1: is a clear statement of disagreement with Charlie Kirk, although

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Speaker 1: acknowledging the tragedy of the circumstance, and I can't believe

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Speaker 1: any human being could ever find that offensive. Well apparently

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Speaker 1: they and this wicked star got dumped on by all

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Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community. Anyway. It was tough on me, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer any questions about it because

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Speaker 1: I dealt with it. It nearly broke me, and that's

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Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. You probably know my heart, so

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Speaker 1: you probably know she was an advocate for LGBTQ plus

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Speaker 1: values and principles, and since he was not, the whole

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Speaker 1: community came unglued at her and criticized her for that

834
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Speaker 1: really truly innocuous statement. So she had to backpedal, backpedal

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Speaker 1: because of the outrage that she received online. Her life

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Speaker 1: apparently depends on what she perceives the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world's perception of her to be. She's broken emotionally because

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of people found a problem with a

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Speaker 1: statement that was totally defensible. A lot of people live

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Speaker 1: their lives that way. It's not just Hollywood stars. Anyone

841
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Speaker 1: with an Internet connection can make a statement about something

842
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: and you all have seen the backlash that can result

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00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: from that. Now, when you make the statement you're prepared

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00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: to stand on your principles, Do you contemplate your principles

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00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: and your a willingness and ability to defend that statement

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Speaker 1: to the end, or do you think you're gonna have

847
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Speaker 1: a hard time defending yourself? And if you're in that

848
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Speaker 1: latter category, maybe it's better you not make the statement.

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Speaker 1: But if you make it, are you gonna bend to

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Speaker 1: the whim of basically the entire global population? Are you

851
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Speaker 1: gonna bend to the whim of artificially created criticism which

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Speaker 1: we all know, thanks to day have had or and

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Speaker 1: a million articles have been written about it, statements and

854
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Speaker 1: criticisms and ridicule that are automatically created by computers out

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Speaker 1: there basically operating on their own and designed to churn

856
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Speaker 1: out and submit statements like that, criticizing you for whatever

857
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Speaker 1: thing you utter online. Oh, I choose pretty much not

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Speaker 1: to participate. There may be I doubt it because I

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Speaker 1: don't believe I have that much critical importance to anybody

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00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: in the world. But you know what, there may be

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Speaker 1: forums out there that make fun of me. There may

862
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Speaker 1: be people out there who criticize and ridicule me. They're

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Speaker 1: entitled to the opinion, and I'm not gonna let it

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Speaker 1: sway my ideas. And the phone lines are open five

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Speaker 1: one three seven fifty eight hundred two three talk. Let's

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Speaker 1: engage in communication about our disagreements. Guy, I've got no

867
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Speaker 1: problem with that either. But stick by your guns. And

868
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Speaker 1: if you don't have a ground and enough set of

869
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Speaker 1: principles that guide what you are saying out in the open,

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Speaker 1: and you feel as though you're going to cower in,

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Speaker 1: Oh my, I know I really didn't mean that, Well,

872
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Speaker 1: then don't say it in the first place. Just the thought.

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Speaker 1: Six twenty six fifty five Kercite talk Station Cleveland apps

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Speaker 1: the talk station six thirty one fifty five KERCV talk station.

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Speaker 1: Hey Cleveland, now hold on one second. Strucker said you

876
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Speaker 1: got to get this in here, and then he did

877
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Speaker 1: make a good point on it. You'll probably appreciate it. Sadly,

878
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Speaker 1: we have our latest homicide, this one South Fairmont eight

879
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Speaker 1: pm last night. Man shot in the back of the head. Oh,

880
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, back and head answered place. Uh succumbed to

881
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Speaker 1: us injuries at the university since a medical center. So

882
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Speaker 1: South Fairmont so Joe happily reminded me of the Cincinnia

883
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Speaker 1: Acquirer article about how your neighborhood voted for mayor, crime

884
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: being a really, really hot topic for the mayoral race.

885
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Speaker 1: At least we thought it was, given all of the

886
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Speaker 1: calamities leading up to the election. South Fairmont UH seventy

887
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Speaker 1: one to eighty four percent aftab par Ball. Notably, I'll

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Speaker 1: say it's doing Hi parking, because there it is. Hy

889
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Speaker 1: park came in fifty to seventy percent per ball. And

890
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Speaker 1: then there's that bond Hill problem eighty five to one

891
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Speaker 1: hundred percent AFTAB par bol in Bondhill, Cleveland, Al, thank

892
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Speaker 1: you for holding. Welcome to the morning show, my friend,

893
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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 6: Pardon me, Brian getting over a little bit of bronchitus here.

895
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Speaker 6: I apologize, Okay, I'll try. I'll try to be true

896
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Speaker 6: shortened succinct here. Up to about the turn of the

897
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Speaker 6: twentieth century, education was a family and local thing, and

898
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Speaker 6: it was about then that the Progressive started their one

899
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Speaker 6: hundred year march toward authoritarianism. And it really wasn't until

900
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Speaker 6: the formation of the Department of Education in the nineteen

901
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Speaker 6: sixties that things really started to go downhill. And what

902
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Speaker 6: we're seeing after the election of Mom Donnie and his

903
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Speaker 6: declaration that there's going to be childcare from six weeks

904
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Speaker 6: on is basically.

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Speaker 2: The end game.

906
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Speaker 6: They want to create a bunch of automatons to the system,

907
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Speaker 6: and that's basically what we're dealing with. So that's my comment, Tom,

908
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Speaker 6: I Tom, I agree. Don't vote Democrat than you Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate men. Hope you're on the med. Hope you're

910
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Speaker 1: on the men. That's exactly right. I mean, you can't

911
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Speaker 1: see that the writing company, I mean, it is advertised

912
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Speaker 1: to you they are taking over your children's brains. Since

913
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Speaker 1: that Classical Academy CVEG reduced flight capacity to beginning Friday

914
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Speaker 1: morning tomorrow morning, this consequence of the cuts by Federal

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Speaker 1: Aviation Administration the announcement yesterday. I mentioned this early in

916
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Speaker 1: the program, thinking about Jay Rattliffe again, Prayers for Jay Rattliffe.

917
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Speaker 1: FA announced it be decreasing the flight capacity ten percent

918
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Speaker 1: at forty major airports. Welcome to one of them, CVEG.

919
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Speaker 1: Not clear how many flights are going to be cut

920
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Speaker 1: daily at CVG, but I would recommend maybe calling ahead

921
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Speaker 1: massive delays out there. Bus driveryccues are running a red light.

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Speaker 1: This happened in Boone County. It's been caught on dash camera.

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Speaker 1: Fox nineteen was sent to at dash camera showing the

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Speaker 1: Boone County school busading a traffic light. As it turns red,

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Speaker 1: the driver runs the light and makes a sharp left turn.

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Speaker 1: Humm Blox nineteen reached out to Boom County Schools about

927
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Speaker 1: the video. They said, yes, we have seen the video.

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Speaker 1: The incidents under investigation. It is a personnel matter. Those quote.

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Speaker 1: Of course, social media being what it is, lots of

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Speaker 1: people have seen it. Many said the driving in the

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Speaker 1: way show the video is unacceptable. Of course, so others

932
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Speaker 1: saying it's not a big deal. See what opinions are

933
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Speaker 1: like everybody's got one. Dennis has one. Dennis, thanks for

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Speaker 1: calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you for bringing me on so quickly. Saying

936
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Speaker 3: the areas that are suffering the worst of the criminal activity,

937
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Speaker 3: like the public execution that was done yesterday or the

938
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Speaker 3: day before, that puts a chill through the whole community

939
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Speaker 3: about opposing the establishment, which is the Democrat Party in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: You can't not underestimate the effect of law being forced,

941
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Speaker 3: Frederick Bastiat, just to put a fine point to it,

942
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Speaker 3: has a vigorous influence on how people will hope if

943
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Speaker 3: it becomes public that somebody is advocating for a Republican

944
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Speaker 3: in those districts, they're just as likely as anybody else

945
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Speaker 3: have a kid die from the effect ball assassination as

946
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Speaker 3: much as a bullet in the back of the head.

947
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Speaker 3: And that can't be understated. With the change in the

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Speaker 3: prosecutor's office limiting the ability of police officers to even

949
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Speaker 3: get a warrant or a heenus crime, let alone, some

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Speaker 3: of the broken window type philosophies that suppress clime in

951
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Speaker 3: whole communities, well.

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be. There is that concern out there,

953
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Speaker 1: you know, the world's gotten so small. Literally anything you

954
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Speaker 1: utter is capable of being broadcast literally everywhere. So if

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Speaker 1: you have a yard sign supporting a Republican, you may

956
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Speaker 1: be the target of attack. But I suppose in some

957
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Speaker 1: areas you've got a Democrat sign in your front yard,

958
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Speaker 1: you may be the subject of an attack. This is

959
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Speaker 1: a risk that you run. Or you can just not

960
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Speaker 1: put a sign in your front yard and go vote

961
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Speaker 1: what you want to vote and not tell anybody how

962
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Speaker 1: you voted, keeping the issue between you and the well.

963
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Speaker 1: I suppose the candidate of your choice. I don't know, complicated,

964
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Speaker 1: my friend. Appreciate the call. Six thirty six fifty five

965
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Speaker 1: KRCD Talk Station. You feel free to call as well

966
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Speaker 1: Talk station sixty one fifty five car CD talk station.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines are open. Taking advantage of the phone lines

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Speaker 1: being opened, Maureen, Welcome back to the fifty five CARC

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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Always appreciate your calls.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, Brian. I wanted to talk about Bill Gates

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Speaker 10: and his strategic pivot on global warming that you talked

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Speaker 10: a lot about earlier in the week. Oh yeah, and yeah,

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Speaker 10: there was something going on at the same time as

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Speaker 10: that he was coming out saying those things where he's

975
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Speaker 10: changing his ideas on that.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 10: Apparently at the same time, the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired

978
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Speaker 10: by Senator Chuck Grassley was they opened an inquiry into

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Speaker 10: the bill and the Linda Gates Foundation regarding its compliance

980
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Speaker 10: with five oh one C three text status and rules.

981
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Speaker 10: So according Yeah, according to reports into twenty twenty three,

982
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Speaker 10: the Gates Foundation reportedly directed eleven point seven million dollars

983
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Speaker 10: to various arms of the CCP, two million dollars to

984
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Speaker 10: a company described as part of a China's military industrial sphere,

985
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Speaker 10: and six point seven million dollars to state run Chinese universities.

986
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Speaker 10: And the goal of the probe is determine if the

987
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Speaker 10: grants met legal regulatory standards. But at the same time,

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Speaker 10: I'm not sure if you are aware that the Health

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Speaker 10: and Human Services Secretary, Robert RFK Junior, he has started

990
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Speaker 10: a chemtrail task force. And I know you and I

991
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Speaker 10: have gone back and forth about the legitimacy of chemtrail. Yeah,

992
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Speaker 10: I know the spraying of yeah, very Miliminius.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I saw the crisscross patterns when I was we had

995
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Speaker 1: a weekend vacation. Little cabin we got as for a

996
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Speaker 1: high bid and a charity auction. We were in Indiana.

997
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Speaker 1: Cure starts now the shoutout, But I looked up and

998
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: there was this plane. It was spewing out something that

999
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Speaker 1: was different than the other airplanes that had crisscrossed, and

1000
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Speaker 1: it went back and forth in a pattern, and I

1001
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Speaker 1: had never seen that before. That is definitely on a pattern.

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Speaker 1: So I recognized the definite plausibility and possibility of chem

1003
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Speaker 1: trails when I used to reject the idea out of hand.

1004
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Speaker 1: But I've been slightly more enlightened Morien, thanks to folks

1005
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Speaker 1: like you and my own observations.

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Speaker 10: Well, well, RFK started a chemtrail task force, and during

1007
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Speaker 10: that is forming that task force, he's come upon some

1008
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Speaker 10: information about Bill Gates's connection with the chem trails, So

1009
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Speaker 10: now they're going to be looking into him for that

1010
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Speaker 10: as well. So I'm wondering if that has a part

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Speaker 10: of the RFK was on I don't watch Doctor Phil show,

1012
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Speaker 10: but he was on that show and he was talking

1013
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Speaker 10: about things with the connection with Bill Gates. And there

1014
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Speaker 10: he talked to a lot of ranchers in Idaho and

1015
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Speaker 10: talking about the spraying of they're crops and they've been ruined,

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Speaker 10: which is hurting our food supply. And he also talked

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Speaker 10: with ranchers in Nebraska who lost whole hers of cattle

1018
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Speaker 10: from respiratory failure right after they did the low altitude

1019
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Speaker 10: chemtrial spring. So Bill Gates is looking and they're looking

1020
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Speaker 10: into him for connections to.

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Speaker 2: That as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I have no problem with them investigating you.

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Speaker 1: It's like the UFOs and aliens. You know, we've been

1024
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Speaker 1: talking about this for years and years, and finally they're

1025
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Speaker 1: getting information out about it. I don't know that anything's definitive,

1026
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Speaker 1: but at least they're telling people about what they've got,

1027
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Speaker 1: what they don't know, what they know. I have no

1028
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Speaker 1: problem with information. Maybe. And here's what I'm praying, Maureen

1029
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Speaker 1: RFKL do a really good job investigating this because he's

1030
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Speaker 1: really all about health and well being and the environment.

1031
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Speaker 1: Great good for him. I'm hoping he finds nothing. I'm

1032
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Speaker 1: hoping this is all a do much new about nothing,

1033
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Speaker 1: And if he concludes that, then good, then we can

1034
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Speaker 1: move on and not talk about it like it's lizard

1035
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Speaker 1: people again. Or he finds something it is true. I

1036
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Speaker 1: think we're all entitled to know if our atmosphere is

1037
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Speaker 1: being polluted by the very people who claim to want

1038
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Speaker 1: to eradicate pollutants from our atmosphere, right.

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Speaker 10: Than well, Governor DeSantis past Bill's fifty six regarding geo

1040
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Speaker 10: engineering and weather manipulation just this past April, and no anyway,

1041
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Speaker 10: so he's working on that and banning those in the skies.

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Speaker 1: Again, and he doesn't cross to strike me as some

1043
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Speaker 1: sort of conspiracy theorists. And I guess I have to

1044
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Speaker 1: ask the outlawed question, believing I know the answer to me, yes,

1045
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: did he have any evidence that that was going on

1046
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Speaker 1: in the state of Florida to require him to enact

1047
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Speaker 1: that bill or pass that legislation? I suspect he was

1048
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Speaker 1: presented with proof, otherwise it would have been a stupid exercise,

1049
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Speaker 1: right right.

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Speaker 10: They have laboratory samples of the different chemicry found in

1051
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Speaker 10: these we.

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Speaker 1: Answer this before. I'll let you get your point out,

1053
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Speaker 1: but I answer me this, what what are these chemtrails?

1054
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Speaker 1: This analysis? What does it revealed they're trying to do

1055
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Speaker 1: if it's killing cows? And I'll acknowledge you made that

1056
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Speaker 1: statement not knowing anything about whether or not that happened,

1057
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Speaker 1: But what are they doing it for? And what is

1058
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Speaker 1: the purpose of any given chem trail.

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Speaker 10: Well, they're finding out that the bear malumium and austrontium

1060
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Speaker 10: and fungus spores are causing Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and people,

1061
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Speaker 10: and they're also so that goes to.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on that it may be causing that,

1063
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Speaker 1: but that's not the reason they're putting it out there.

1064
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Speaker 1: Or are you telling me our government is polluting the

1065
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Speaker 1: year so that we all get Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 10: Well, there's a deep state involved here that would like

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Speaker 10: to see a decreased population.

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Speaker 1: I know you're all about that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I am. I know the whole globalist agenda

1070
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Speaker 10: and Agenda twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: So that's a yes to my question. Marine. Yes, they

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Speaker 1: are doing this intentionally to give us all Alzheimer's well, well.

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Speaker 10: To affect the population so that they're easily controlled. The

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Speaker 10: goal is to decrease the population. It's control and power

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Speaker 10: is the ultimate goal. And the fewer people you have,

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Speaker 10: the easier it is to control population. And when they

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Speaker 10: have Alzheimer's and Parkinson's, you saw a lot of drugs too.

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Speaker 10: But anyway, so yeah, it's Agenda twenty thirty. He kind

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Speaker 10: of goes into the whole thing about a decreased population. Well,

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Speaker 10: whether or not conspiracy theory, But that's kind of me.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't mind you bringing it up. And

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Speaker 1: I'm free too, as I have been sort of poking

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Speaker 1: holes around the margins to find out where all these

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Speaker 1: motivations everything comes from. Fine, you have answers to that,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. Whether people agree with you or not, that's

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Speaker 1: okay too. Those theories have been flowing around for a

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Speaker 1: long time. But insofar as Bill Gates is shifting in

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Speaker 1: this nonsense that carbon dioxide and global warming somehow represents

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Speaker 1: a true existential threat, which it never has, I think

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Speaker 1: the main reason he's doing that is not to get

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Speaker 1: the attention focused away from his shenanigans and his illegal activities,

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Speaker 1: perhaps with the Gates Foundation. I think he's doing it

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Speaker 1: to streamline the process so he and other major industrial

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Speaker 1: company owners can get the nuclear power they want. I

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Speaker 1: think they're doing these data centers and they need to

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Speaker 1: shift the dynamic and get a lot of abundant power.

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Speaker 1: And of course with the Department of Energy recently along

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Speaker 1: with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission streamlining the process finally to

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Speaker 1: get it more nuclear power online, they're bending to what

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Speaker 1: he needs, and he's going to deliver on getting this

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Speaker 1: nuclear power. So I'm glad he did the shift, whether

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Speaker 1: it's for something related to Gates Foundation. But what really

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Speaker 1: pisses me off moreying about all this, the demand for clean,

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Speaker 1: reliable energy by data centers and major industrial companies is

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Speaker 1: bringing about a nuclear power revolution that we should have

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Speaker 1: been entitled to and had already by now, even without

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Speaker 1: the massive needs of data centers. Right, I get that.

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Speaker 10: I get that it could be a double edged not

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Speaker 10: double edged sword, but dual purpose. You know, he's trying

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Speaker 10: to kind of clean up his image because he knows

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Speaker 10: they're onto him, and he also can benefit from it

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Speaker 10: from what you just said, right, well, yeah, not a dummy.

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Speaker 1: And to continue your theme, the fast tracking of nuclear

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Speaker 1: power would allow these data centers to function twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven and do their number crunching and probably fast

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Speaker 1: forward the realities that you are talking about them wanting

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Speaker 1: to bring about. AI helps them with that.

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Speaker 10: All right, exactly, love Mark, I love you, Marian.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, one more thing.

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Speaker 10: There's a movie coming out tomorrow that everybody needs to

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Speaker 10: go see. I don't think it's any coincidence that it's

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Speaker 10: coming out now, but it's called Neuremberg. The movie it

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Speaker 10: stars Russell Crowe starts tomorrow. It's going to talk about

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Speaker 10: military tribunal switch, another hot topic of mine. So everybody

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Speaker 10: go watch this movie. It starts tomorrow, Nuremberg. To learn

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Speaker 10: a lot.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's good.

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Speaker 10: Mary, you up things to come?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Maury, thank you so much for listening to the

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Speaker 1: program calling in. I do really appreciate your calls, even

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Speaker 1: if you and I come to loggerheads over the truth, yeah,

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Speaker 1: kind or lack of there off all right, keep it up,

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Speaker 1: so if you keep you on my toes. Six forty

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five Kerseedy Talk Station Prestigion. It's six fifty

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Speaker 1: four or fifty five. Kerseedy talks to Mesh Congressman Warren

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Speaker 1: Davidson after the top of the our News and further

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Speaker 1: to the morning's point, I saw this article zero head.

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Speaker 1: You want to find it visualized in the Cost of

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Speaker 1: the American Dream in twenty twenty five, speaking of a

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Speaker 1: point about population control, I think that's coming about by

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Speaker 1: people's own choices, and the reasons may be nefarious. If

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Speaker 1: life has gotten a lot more expensive and affordability was

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Speaker 1: a huge issue, as according to all the pundits out there, affordability, affordability, affordability,

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Speaker 1: which got a lot worse under the Biden administration. When

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Speaker 1: you run the printing press twenty four to seven, it

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Speaker 1: does water down the value of the dollar. So they

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Speaker 1: have that to point to. But maybe that was intentional

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Speaker 1: point from the article. US home buyer age median age

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Speaker 1: of a US home buyer now fifty six years old,

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Speaker 1: and that's up from thirty one years old in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty one. Affordability is the issue, and of course lack

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Speaker 1: of housing. When you bring twenty million people into the

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Speaker 1: country over a very short period of time, you tend

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Speaker 1: to have a housing crisis because you can't respond quickly

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Speaker 1: enough to deal with that. Meanwhile, they point out US

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Speaker 1: fertility rates have hit record lows amid rising unaffordability. I

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Speaker 1: know you've probably read the articles about the fertility rates.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's having children anymore, one, I think, because people have

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Speaker 1: become more inherently selfish. It's me, me, me, first, Why

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Speaker 1: would I bring a children into this world. We're all

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Speaker 1: going to die. We're a bunch of cockroaches because of

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Speaker 1: global warming. And the reason is or just one after

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Speaker 1: another after another, and if you took the global warming

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Speaker 1: nonsense out of the equation, you didn't think children were

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Speaker 1: cockroaches that were going to destroy the planet, then you

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Speaker 1: probably would be more inclined to have one. If you

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Speaker 1: realize the joy and beauty that is to have a

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Speaker 1: family and to have loved ones that you created and

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Speaker 1: nurtured and developed, you probably would have children because it's

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Speaker 1: an awesome experience. But when it comes to the cost,

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Speaker 1: you have no control over that. And the more expensive

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Speaker 1: it is to live, eat and everything, the more you

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Speaker 1: have to do a can I even afford it to

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Speaker 1: have a child as much as I might want to

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Speaker 1: have one. So the manipulation of economics can have the

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Speaker 1: impact of yes, you deciding you don't want to have

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Speaker 1: children because it's just too expensive. And the figure that

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Speaker 1: they used for raising two children in this current environment,

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Speaker 1: and I take issue with it, but raising two kids

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Speaker 1: from birth to age eighteen plus, and this is why

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Speaker 1: I bring it up, plus a four year college public

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Speaker 1: or four year education at a public college eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy six thousand dollars, And I thought, well, you

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Speaker 1: don't need the college degree. Put them in the trades,

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Speaker 1: let them earn while they learn. But if you took

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Speaker 1: that component out, that would probably be a sizeable drop

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Speaker 1: from the figure that they created. Some people say a

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Speaker 1: four year college may cost you is seventy five to

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars, So why not take two hundred

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Speaker 1: grand off the top. Then do the math, divide it

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Speaker 1: over eighteen years, and you realize, you know what, maybe

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Speaker 1: the beauty of raising a family is indeed worth. It

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Speaker 1: might have to tighten my belt a little bit, might

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Speaker 1: have to deny myself a few things in favor of

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Speaker 1: getting whatever the child needs for his or her development.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, that trade off well well worth it. Congressman

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Speaker 1: Davidson after the top of the hour news hope we

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Speaker 1: can stick around today's top headlines coming up at the

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Speaker 1: seven oh six at above KRCV talk station that be Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas always looking forward to talking with Congressman Warren Davidson,

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Speaker 1: So we get to do that right now. Become back,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. I certainly appreciate your willingness to come on

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Speaker 1: the fifty five Carsing Morning Show and address the listeners

1204
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: and me and answer the question is the GOP going

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Speaker 1: to give up on this whole shutdown thing. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. It's great to have you on as always.

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Speaker 8: It's always an honor of Brian. And is the GOP

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Speaker 8: going to give up on it? I mean, look, that's

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 8: been my frustration a lot of the Gops fighting like

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Speaker 8: the CRS. What we're fighting for, You're like, nothing preserves

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Speaker 8: the status quo, like a continuing resolution. It's just yeah,

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Speaker 8: what you were doing, just keep doing that. So it

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Speaker 8: is meant to be a peace offering, a truce to say, well,

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Speaker 8: let's at least keep the government open while we continue

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Speaker 8: our negotiations. Democrats have rejected that, I don't know fourteen

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Speaker 8: to fifteen times. However, many times the Senate Democrats won't

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Speaker 8: get to sixty votes to even have the real vote,

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Speaker 8: So this is a cloture thing that the real binding

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Speaker 8: vote could be later. So you could say, well, go

1220
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Speaker 8: ahead and have your vote and vote for that. But

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Speaker 8: if you're opposed to the measure, you could simply say

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Speaker 8: I'm opposed. But they won't do that in the Senate. Yet,

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Speaker 8: there are signs that they might be willing to start

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Speaker 8: talking about doing it, maybe over this weekend. I think

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Speaker 8: there's a fairly decent chance by the middle of the

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Speaker 8: next week and the next week we'll get it done.

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Speaker 8: You know, once they did shut the government down, I

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Speaker 8: felt like, you know, there's a decent chance that this

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Speaker 8: goes past the election, but it's certainly almost certainly going

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Speaker 8: to be over before Thanksgiving. So that puts us in

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Speaker 8: the window that right.

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Speaker 1: Now, because they all have to use an airplane to

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Speaker 1: fly someplace and the air traffic is getting shut down.

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Speaker 1: That was the announcement yesterday, And the sting is starting

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Speaker 1: to be felt beyond those who just been placed on leave.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and look, you know it's felt because everyone has

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01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 8: at some point somebody they know, well that's affected. I mean,

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Speaker 8: and members of Congress do because you know, you're sitting

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Speaker 8: there looking at your staff and they're looking at you like,

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Speaker 8: we're going to get this stunt, boss, because they're not

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Speaker 8: getting paid. So you know, you look at some of

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Speaker 8: these kinds of things. Where in our area right Patterson

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Speaker 8: Air Force Base is probably the biggest area that's affected,

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Speaker 8: the largest employer in the state. And you know, people

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Speaker 8: always say, well, why do we even have non essential employees?

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Speaker 8: And that's not necessarily a relative importance, it's just a

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Speaker 8: sense of urgency. Like obviously you can't furlow the federal

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Speaker 8: prison guards or the prison wouldn't work. But you know,

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Speaker 8: the procurement wing of the Air Force is important. Generally

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Speaker 8: they're working on longer range stuff than buying stuff to

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Speaker 8: keep the Air Force open today. So the people that

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Speaker 8: are working on say a project for future fighter plan

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Speaker 8: or something like that, they're furloughed right now. The military

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Speaker 8: people are at work. It's important that we continue to

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Speaker 8: do these kinds of developments. I'd say we could be

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Speaker 8: a little more focused and effective at it, but nevertheless,

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Speaker 8: some of those people are very essential and they're not

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Speaker 8: at work right now because the timing and the urgency.

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Speaker 8: So you know, some of these kinds of things will

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Speaker 8: be felt in the long run, but for a lot

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Speaker 8: of people in their personal household, they're like, things are fine,

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Speaker 8: keep this going, so we'll see where we are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At listener lunch yesterday, I met the first person

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Speaker 1: that I had encountered that was directly impacted. He's a

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Speaker 1: guy that was placed on furlough, and so I had

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Speaker 1: a good conversation with him. He didn't seem really too

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Speaker 1: angry about the whole thing. He's like, have you met

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Speaker 1: anybody who's been directly impacted, yet he's like, no, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the first person. So, yeah, it hasn't reached its tentacles,

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Speaker 1: hasn't reached that far. But when it does start interrupting

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Speaker 1: things like people's holiday travel, then you're going to hear

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Speaker 1: more and more angry voices like, wait a minute, it

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Speaker 1: does impact me. So if you say it's going to

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Speaker 1: be resolved by Thanksgiving, and I think I'm in agreement

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Speaker 1: with you on that for a variety of different reasons,

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Speaker 1: does that mean the Senate Democrats are finally just going

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Speaker 1: to say, Okay, we'll accept the clean resolution and keep

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: spending at Biden levels and then go back to work

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Speaker 1: on the twelve Appropriations bills, which is what the whole

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Speaker 1: setup was for. But doesn't the CR as it currently

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Speaker 1: exist keep the government open until some date in the

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Speaker 1: short term near future.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the currencyr expires November twenty first, So

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Speaker 8: the version that passed the House, the version that they've

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Speaker 8: been voting on, expirers November twenty first, So it's not

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Speaker 8: really rational to pass that with that date. So I

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Speaker 8: think the minimal change that the Senate will do is

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Speaker 8: change the date We were really close to being done

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Speaker 8: with three of the appropriations bills in the House and Senate.

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Speaker 8: They're generally bundled in twelve. There's no magic reason it's

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Speaker 8: twelve bills. Like you normally have military construction and VA

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Speaker 8: funding in one bill. You normally have transportation and hood

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Speaker 8: in one bill. I mean, so it's not like a

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Speaker 8: magic combination. These things are clustered. But we had three

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Speaker 8: of the twelve bills done in the House and Senate,

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Speaker 8: and there are differences between them, and there were conferencing

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Speaker 8: those and some of those meetings have gone on and

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Speaker 8: they're not necessarily fully resolved, but there are a lot

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Speaker 8: of people fighting to say, let's put those three bills

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Speaker 8: on with the CR and show momentum towards the parts

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Speaker 8: of funding that are bipartisan. So there might be some

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Speaker 8: kind of face saving compromise like that, But those kinds

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Speaker 8: of things were already pretty close. And you know, there

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Speaker 8: might be out of the one and a half trillion

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Speaker 8: dollar list of demands, some things that were bipartisan. I

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Speaker 8: can't find anything in that list that I want to

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Speaker 8: vote for as a single line item, as a standalone provision,

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Speaker 8: but some of those things might be so not toxic

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Speaker 8: that they could be added to a bill and wouldn't

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Speaker 8: necessarily lose votes some of them. If you add them

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Speaker 8: to the bill, well you're going to lose a lot

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Speaker 8: of Republican votes, but maybe you pick up a lot

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Speaker 8: of Democrat votes. So we'll see. They may finally get

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Speaker 8: to that point. But for the longest time that was

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Speaker 8: the Democrats like, here's our list of one and a

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Speaker 8: half trained dollar demands, and they didn't want to talk

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Speaker 8: about anything but that whole one and a half trillion.

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Speaker 8: They might highlight one or two things, but their goal

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Speaker 8: was to get to some point. Maybe this is the

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Speaker 8: point they wanted to get.

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Speaker 1: Well, I really truly believe part of the strategy I

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Speaker 1: suppose you can keep the government shut down, that is

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Speaker 1: a strategy of some sort was to impact the election

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Do you think that had some measure of success?

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Speaker 1: Can give given the outcome that was not good for

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Speaker 1: the Republican inside of the Ledger anyway?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean you look at Republicans that are saying, well,

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Speaker 8: without Trump on the ballot, we have a hard time

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Speaker 8: motivating our voters. Well, Democrats are the same way. Trump

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Speaker 8: wasn't on the ballot. So how do you motivate your voters, Well,

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Speaker 8: they got caught fighting. It's clear they're fighting for something

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Speaker 8: other than the status quo. And the status quo isn't

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Speaker 8: popular with anybody. Nobody likes it because it didn't freaking

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Speaker 8: work it. So we're supposed to be changing it. And

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Speaker 8: that's where my frustration with the Republicans has been. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: we're playing decent defense. I'm glad the Speaker in a

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Speaker 8: lot of ways has kept us out because it's prevented

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Speaker 8: the surrender Caucus from forming and saying, oh, let's compromise

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Speaker 8: even further. It's like, no, the CR was the compromise.

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Speaker 1: Quit it, you know. So if more people understood exactly

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Speaker 1: how it got to this point in time, there would

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Speaker 1: be no argument that who's to blame. If blame is

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Speaker 1: this key critical element for this shutdown. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: set the whole thing up to take all the wind

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Speaker 1: out of the Democrats sales by passing the Continuing Resolution

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Speaker 1: to keep funding levels of Biden era spending. I mean

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Speaker 1: that should have been the end of the discussion right there.

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Speaker 1: Or the CR passes, you work on the appropriations bills

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Speaker 1: and we're all done and moving on with our lives.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that was the way I was designing.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you look at it, the shutdown, it's like

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Speaker 8: normally shutdowns over like, well, we put some really aggressive

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Speaker 8: provision in this bill, and you know, okay, it's partisans

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Speaker 8: so we can't get the votes or something like that.

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Speaker 8: There's nothing in this bill. I mean, now, granted, we

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Speaker 8: passed some other things earlier in the year, and that's

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Speaker 8: what they're you know, upset about. I mean, whether medicaid

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Speaker 8: they want to keep giving it to illegals in some states,

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Speaker 8: food stamps for example, they're talking about that today. But

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Speaker 8: you know, those kinds of programs. We said, look, if

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Speaker 8: you're able bodied, working age adult, you don't have the

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Speaker 8: penny kids at home. I mean, you get to go

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Speaker 8: to work eventually, go to work, go to school, volunteer,

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Speaker 8: do something productive, just like you would expect a friend

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Speaker 8: or family member if you're going to help them out.

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Speaker 8: You know, you help them out in a time of need,

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Speaker 8: but you wouldn't help them out forever. And you know,

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Speaker 8: we've got millions of Americans that way. And the crazy

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Speaker 8: thing is we get millions of non America. There's tons

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Speaker 8: of tons of non citizens on this list of forty

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Speaker 8: two million people. You think of that forty two million people,

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Speaker 8: that's bigger than the population of Canada.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. And you know, I saw an

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Speaker 1: article and I hope I get the facts roughly correct,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was during the Biden administration of

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Speaker 1: the asylum applications globally people trying to leave their country

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Speaker 1: seeking asylum in another country. In terms of the global

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Speaker 1: population seeking to do that, fifty percent of those requests

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Speaker 1: came to the United States. I mean. The only reason

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Speaker 1: I bring that up illustrates that, yeah, we are the

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Speaker 1: destination land. People want to leave their ridiculously govern authoritarian

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Speaker 1: regime or communist regime or socialist regime because it's a

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Speaker 1: terrible life and they want to come to America. And

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Speaker 1: the problem with that is conceptually it may be okay

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Speaker 1: because we get the benefit of all these people and

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Speaker 1: jobs and everything, but in the final analysis, they're automatically entitled,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, to hook themselves up to our social

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Speaker 1: welfare safety net, which isn't even funded well enough to

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Speaker 1: serve the American people who expect it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and look, a lot of people on immigration they say, oh,

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Speaker 8: let's just go back to the days of statue of liberty.

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Speaker 8: Give us your tired, you're poor. Yeah, let's go back

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Speaker 8: to that where it like to come here. Part of

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Speaker 8: the condition was you get nothing. There is no welfare

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Speaker 8: state to begin with at that point. But even if

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Speaker 8: there were, you can't be a ward of the state.

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Speaker 8: You can't be a burden on the population. You come here,

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Speaker 8: and yeah, you get to be here. It's a slant

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Speaker 8: of opportunity, but you don't get your neighbor's.

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Speaker 1: Money, exactly right, And there were no social welfare safety

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Speaker 1: programs when Ellis Island was running. We're overflowing with people. Pause,

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Speaker 1: we're being Congressman Davidson back. I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about yesterday's a tariff debate for the Supreme Court, the

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Speaker 1: oral arguments there, and it does not look good for

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump if you can read the justice's tea leaves.

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Speaker 1: What are we going to do about that? Let's see

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Speaker 1: your boy back? How about that? From Congressman Warren Davidson

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Speaker 1: the talk station seven fifty five KRCD Talk station. Brian

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Speaker 1: Thomas here with Congression Warre and Davidson talking shut down

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Speaker 1: and for it real quick. Congressrom Davidson before we leave

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Speaker 1: that topic, and I got to ask you about the

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Speaker 1: tariff situation to the extent you've got an opinion or

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Speaker 1: thought on it. But is it possible that, assuming the

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Speaker 1: government reopens under whatever circumstances, that they are going to

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Speaker 1: move toward the omnibus thing or are we pass that option,

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Speaker 1: because that's the kind of scary stuff the sausage making

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Speaker 1: goes on with omnibus. You end up with a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of individuals getting what they want for their state

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Speaker 1: and usually cost American tax bar a whole lot of money.

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Speaker 8: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, we're definitely not ready for an omnibus.

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Speaker 8: We you know, we still don't even have all the

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Speaker 8: details worked out on like defense appropriations. That's usually one

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Speaker 8: of the big ones that gets a lot of detail

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Speaker 8: added to it. And we have a Defense Authorization Act

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Speaker 8: that needs to pass before we do the defense appropes.

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Speaker 8: So we've got the three bills that's sometimes called a

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Speaker 8: minibus because it's instead of twelve bills, it's essentially a

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Speaker 8: twenty five percent bus, you know, So it's but those

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Speaker 8: bills have all passed before the House, so these aren't

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Speaker 8: like things that haven't passed these These have passed the

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Speaker 8: House and they've passed Senate, and and so combining those

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Speaker 8: in a conference thing really isn't the same kind of

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Speaker 8: thing as what you see in an omnibus, because we

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Speaker 8: did have the debate on those bills in the House.

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Speaker 8: We did offer amendments, and you know, we know what's

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Speaker 8: in them, and you know the realities that are all

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Speaker 8: big enough to go, well, there's some things in there

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Speaker 8: I really don't like. And you know, to be honest,

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Speaker 8: one of the biggest things that I want but we

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Speaker 8: can't get the votes for is I don't think the

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Speaker 8: federal government should send money to any political subdivision except states. Uh,

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Speaker 8: And you know, it's a vital lifeline. We don't really

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Speaker 8: have an easy way to operate today, like, for example,

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Speaker 8: fire departments need direct funding from the federal government to

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Speaker 8: really hit break even if you've got to. There's just

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Speaker 8: so many programs that are for fire for example, These

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Speaker 8: are essential and they're they're not partisan. We want them

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Speaker 8: to go there. If you look at how this is broken,

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Speaker 8: it's just you put lots of tentacles to every political

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Speaker 8: subdivision and it grows the power of the federal government.

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Speaker 8: They're dependent on the money, and they're dependent on the policies.

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Speaker 8: And if you sent the same money to the state,

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Speaker 8: the state would then send it differently, and it would

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Speaker 8: increase the power of the states and decrease the role

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Speaker 8: of the federal government. But we don't have the votes

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Speaker 8: for that kind of structural shift right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, judgment Paul Atonata predicted it yesterday. You said,

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Speaker 1: these tariffs that Donald Trump engage in our taxes, he

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Speaker 1: does not have the power to levy taxes, just boiling

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Speaker 1: down his general points. That appears to be the way

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court perceived this as well. That the Emergency

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Speaker 1: and Economic Powers Act in nineteen seventy seven, you can

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Speaker 1: declare an emergency. Yeah, but we're not in an emergency.

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Speaker 1: This wasn't sudden and out of nowhere. That this trade

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Speaker 1: problem has been building and has existed for well for

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Speaker 1: one hundred years plus. So you can't declare an emergency

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Speaker 1: for something that's been out in the open. If that's

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Speaker 1: the direction they go and they declare these tariffs unlawful,

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen? I mean, I guess I'm wondering.

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Speaker 1: One of the options is Congress retroactively ratifying them. But

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Speaker 1: since we're in the middle of a shutdown, I can't

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Speaker 1: really see the Democrats actually giving into Donald Trump on

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Speaker 1: literally anything, so that that's unlikely to happen. How do

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Speaker 1: you see this unfolding and being unpackaged.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't see any way the Democrats give the

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Speaker 8: votes to give President Trump the discretion to do a

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Speaker 8: thing like one of the no brainers that the Senate

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Speaker 8: Democrats rejected. We didn't get a vote on it in

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Speaker 8: the House yet, but it was if people are essential

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,440
Speaker 8: enough to be at work, like air traffic controllers or military,

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Speaker 8: you know, prison guards, whatever, then there the payroll clerk

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Speaker 8: is essential to so at least be the people that

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Speaker 8: are working right now. And so they're like, no, no,

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Speaker 8: that gives discretion as the president Trump has to see

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Speaker 8: who's working and so he can just leave people not

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Speaker 8: at work, and so we can't do that. And so

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Speaker 8: I don't see on tariff's Democrats giving the votes for

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Speaker 8: that because it would allow President Trump to make a decision.

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Speaker 8: But that's what he was elected to do, is make decisions.

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Speaker 8: And look, we didn't have free trade before Donald Trump

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Speaker 8: was president. We still don't have free trade, but we

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Speaker 8: moved in that direction, and the tariffs were leveraged to

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Speaker 8: do that. And look, I won't say it's not unanticipated

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Speaker 8: that this would happen. I introduced a bill called the

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Speaker 8: Global Trade Accountability Act if this eventuality should get here

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Speaker 8: or whatever. The president is kind of reached a point

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Speaker 8: saying yeah, we're pretty content with our trade negotiations. And

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Speaker 8: it allows the president to change terms with anybody for

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Speaker 8: up to ninety days at a time, and it doesn't

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Speaker 8: say you have to change them up or down, but

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Speaker 8: you just have to change them within ninety days, and

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01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 8: then Congress votes on them, and the goal would be

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Speaker 8: country by country or group of countries by group of countries.

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Speaker 8: Then once you've got some sort of deal locked in,

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01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 8: then Congress votes and you lock them in and now

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01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 8: you've got some level of certainty. But any future president,

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01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 8: they could come in and change tariffs or up to

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Speaker 8: ninety days at a time, and you could say, hey,

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Speaker 8: we're going to put a ten percent tariff, and ninety

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Speaker 8: days is coming. The goal would be to use that

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Speaker 8: as leverage to say, look, we can either go up

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Speaker 8: or down, but we can't stay at ten percent.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess I'll have to ask the fundamental question

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01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: the trade agreements that he was able to successfully negotiate

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Speaker 1: had he gone out into the world. Sam's a power

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01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: to impose tariff's, but under his power over foreign policy

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01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: negotiated trade agreements with say, some the Chinese or the Japanese,

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Speaker 1: whoever it happens to be. He could do that on

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Speaker 1: his own. The power that gave him to negotiate the

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Speaker 1: trade agreements he's locked in so far came from the tariffs.

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Speaker 1: So is the original sin of his tariff wielding increases

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Speaker 1: that led to a trade agreement? Does that negate the

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01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: trade agreement? I suppose that's a legitimate question to ask.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think this would just be the dumbest self

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Speaker 8: inflicted moment. Yeah, that the Supreme Court could deal to

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01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 8: our country. You know, could we do this a little differently? Sure? Maybe,

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01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 8: but that's for Congress and the President to decide. If

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Speaker 8: Congress wanted to claim that power, we could pass a bill,

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01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 8: but we haven't. And Okay, you could say, well, there's

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01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 8: a standoff between Congress and the president and the court

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01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 8: needs to decide. Okay, maybe that would be the case,

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01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 8: but the Congress hasn't said we're going to reclaim this

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01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 8: power from the president. You know, there's people that have

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01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 8: said we should, but generally that's Democrats. It's part of

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01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 8: party line fight, with the exception of you know, three

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01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 8: or four people in the Senate. Beyond that, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: we want the president to have the power to do

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01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 8: this negotiation. And I forget which justice it was. I

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01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 8: think it's either Kavanaugh or Robberts who said, look, so

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01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 8: let me get this straight. Under the law, as you stated,

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Speaker 8: the president could completely cut off trade, can do a

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 8: full embargo for every country in the world. Right, Isn't

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01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 8: it seemed crazy that he could do that extreme of

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01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 8: a measure, but he couldn't put a one percent tarify

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01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 8: And that was the That was the question, and I

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01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 8: think as they contemplate this that might resonate. And the

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Speaker 8: other part is just if you look at the effect

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Speaker 8: of what the work has been done in this administration

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Speaker 8: and frankly the last it would completely gut you know,

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01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 8: this administration's work in foreign policy, which is very clearly

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01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 8: the president's realm.

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01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: That clearly is well, I suppose Congress is still in recess.

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01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: You guys, have Kevin been called back to work yet,

1555
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: have you?

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01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 8: I mean not for a formal session. So most of us,

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01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 8: I don't know about everybody, but you know I've been back,

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01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 8: you know, not every week, but most weeks I end

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01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 8: up going back for a few days. Yeah I was there.

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01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not suggesting for a minute you're not doing

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01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: work or that work is not getting done. But since

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01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: you haven't been formally called back, you can't vote on say, oh,

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01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't know released in the Epstein files. People seem

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01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: to think that that's the basis for the closure right now,

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01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: and I just want to get that out.

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01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: In the air. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: No, Look, you know, my good friend and Kylie Thomas

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01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 8: Massey's get a discharged edition.

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Speaker 4: It will be ripe.

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Speaker 8: And I think, look at they're going to get the signatures.

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01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 8: It'll come to the House for the votes. It'll have

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01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 8: the votes. But the real problem is isn't whether we

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01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 8: get another report or another set of files, or another

1575
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 8: hearing or whatever. The real question is when is somebody

1576
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 8: going to jail? And that's the question I want. One

1577
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 8: of the hearings that didn't happen because we weren't in session.

1578
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 8: Is Pam Bondy coming before for Congress and saying, okay,

1579
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 8: explain yourself. You hand out binders to the press. You

1580
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 8: say there's lots of there there. You imply that there's

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01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 8: going to be these trials. And then next thing, you

1582
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 8: and President Trump are saying there's nothing there, and you're like, well,

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01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 8: please show us the nothing, because you with the binders

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01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 8: full of blank pages.

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01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: I mean, the public needs to know that.

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01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 8: And I think at some level that's a valid thing. Well, okay,

1587
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 8: since you're not explaining, we're going to call the question.

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01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 8: Show us the stuff.

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: It invites conspiracy theories and invites thoughts and comments, and

1590
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, you can clear the air, release the dam files,

1591
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: and let's move on with our lives. You know, maybe

1592
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: there is nothing there and we can all say, oops,

1593
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't have drawn conclusions. But all those

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01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: conclusions are being drawn because of the craziness surrounding the

1595
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: fact that we haven't seen him yet. Congressman Warren Davidson,

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01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: appreciate what you're doing for the American people, and I

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01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: know you're hard at work in spy to the recess,

1598
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: but I'll let you go to go back to the

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01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: hard work you're doing, and I invite you here on

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Speaker 1: the fifty five case Morning Sha anytime you want to talk.

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01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 8: Oh, he's an honor of brain. God bless you and

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01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 8: your listeners.

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01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: Take care of my friend. Seven point thirty right now

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01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: vide k. Feel like I'm in the five o'clock hours,

1605
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: just waking up. Sorry, world's an imperfect place. Brian Thomas

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01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: is an imperfect human being. Five one three, seven four

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Speaker 1: nine fifty five hundred and eight hundred and eight two

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Speaker 1: three talk found five fifty on at and T Phunds

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01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: and I used all the time up in this segment

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01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: of Congressman Warren Davidson, au I suggest that was the

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01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: right way to go. So I don't have time for

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01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: local stories except to remind you. Thank you. Joe Strecker

1613
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: pointing out the Cincinni Inquirer's map. You can see it

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01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: for yourself. God to Cincinnati dot com. That's the Inquirer's website.

1615
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 1: See if your neighborhood voted for Bowman or parvol in

1616
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati mayor's race headline from an article by Scott Wartman.

1617
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: And Joe drew the parallel here because yesterday eight pm

1618
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: a man was shot in the back in the head

1619
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: right there in South Fairmont eight pm. So keen interest,

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01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: Joe turned to the map of how your neighborhood voted

1621
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 1: for mayor and look lo and behold in spite of

1622
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: the crime problem being one of the issues obviously for

1623
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: the election on Tuesday. Maybe not as prominent as you

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01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: or I thought it would be, but South Fairmont Court

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01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: of the color chart voted seventy one to eighty four

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01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: percent AFT tab Provoll. And I would think even more

1627
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: profoundly comical on this is the idea that Hyde Park

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01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: in the light blue segment i'll be apparently voted fifty

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01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: to seventy percent for aftab Provoll in spite of AFTABS

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01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: ignoring them in that real estate development thing. Same thing

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01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: with bond Hill and other neighborhood identified as being ignored

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01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 1: by the residents of bond Hill. Aftab Parvoll did and

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01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: moved it forward with his plans for the community in

1634
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: spite of the community outrage. Bond Hill eighty five to

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01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: one hundred percent aftab Provoll. Okay seven thirty six. If

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01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: you five caresee he talks station, feel free to give

1637
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: me a call. Love to hear from you. And I'd

1638
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: like you to call Peter Shabria Color Williams seven Hills

1639
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: in his real Estate team. If you want the best

1640
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: station five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five eight

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01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 1: hundred eight two three talk con Fi fifty on eight

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01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: and T phoned. And of course you want to hear

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01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,799
Speaker 1: what the Polatan has said about the can the President

1644
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: tax you? Of course he anticipated, I believe and fairly accurately.

1645
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: What the Supreme Court was all about yesterday doesn't look

1646
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: good for the Trump tariffs from a legal perspective, I

1647
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: get all day long where Judge the Polatana came from

1648
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: and where the Supreme Court appears to be going. It's

1649
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: just going to be somewhat of a Charlie Fox trot

1650
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: unwindening all of this if in fact, they deemed Trump's

1651
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: emergency declaration well incompatible with the statute under with he

1652
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: he's relying to well advance these tariffs. So keep your

1653
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: popcorn out on that they're fast tracking that no one

1654
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: really expects. You're gonna have to wait around un till

1655
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: June of next year to get the opinion. Given how

1656
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word gray, but just

1657
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: given the circumstances surrounding the tariffs and the urgency that

1658
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: they need to be addressed, so let's go to the phone.

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01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: See what Bobby's got this morning, Bobby, Happy Thursday. Hey,

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01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: welcome to the show.

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01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 11: Happy Thursday, my friend, Faith, flag and family. When you

1662
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 11: keep those, you're always going to have freedom.

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01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Got to have those firearms, oh, Bobby, Well that.

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01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 11: Protects the first and the third Amendments. Yes, sir, we're

1665
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 11: always going to use those.

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01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 7: No matter what.

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01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 11: So ay seventy two hour window, looking looking forward. We

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01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 11: already have shooting this morning, but we're still going to

1669
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 11: handicap the whole weekend at four and a half.

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01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: So are they accepting murder odds on sports sportsbook yet, Bobby.

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01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 11: Nobody's coming to that sometime soon.

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01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: Well, you can bet on whether a catcher in a

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01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: baseball game is going to scratch his crotch. I think

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01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: you'd be able to, you know, to make a bet

1675
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: on how many murders are going to be committed in

1676
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: any given jurisdiction over the weekend.

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01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 11: Hey, money's getting cut all beautiful weather, just prime time

1678
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 11: for problems on the streets.

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Speaker 1: Be careful, appreciate the call, Bobby. You hang in there,

1680
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: my friend. Have a wonderful day. I feel free to

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01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 1: call yourself if you like. Yeah, I guess And I'm

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01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: going to give who is it? Brian? Brian made a

1683
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: post on my Facebook post, so a different Brian, since

1684
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: you ever thought about getting a moving company as a

1685
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: show sponsor. Timing seems pretty good right now. It's kind

1686
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: of predicated or springing from a common I made yesterday

1687
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: about my wife wanting to move, and she selected Butler County,

1688
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:30,480
Speaker 1: although I think Claremont Warren and others also represent ideal possibilities.

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01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: Not ready to pull that trigger yet, but she's kind

1690
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: of really strongly leading in that direction. And then I

1691
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 1: pivoted over well because of what's going on in the

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01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: city and of course Hamilton County itself, but I thought

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01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: that in the context of New York City and mom

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01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 1: Dommy's big plans and the fact that they've lost so

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01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: many people already, and his plans are predicated on taxes

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01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: that he may not even be able to put in

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01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: place because it's going to require state cooperation. The Governor

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01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 1: Hock will probably not inclined to piss off the entire

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01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 1: state of New York. So Mom, Donni can give you

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01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: free stuff and things. But New York has had two

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Speaker 1: million more residents leave the state than entering, and Similarly,

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01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: New Jersey Illinois also also saw five hundred thousand more

1703
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: residents leave their state for other states. That's all just

1704
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: within the past ten years. And of course we all

1705
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: know COVID revealed it to everyone's eyes. If you have

1706
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: the freedom to go and you can tele commute, you're

1707
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna leave the places where you were overregulated and over

1708
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 1: taxed and go to places that offer you a well

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01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: resounding amount of freedom. By way of comparison, Texas, for example,

1710
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: comes to mind, Florida comes to mind. They're already doing

1711
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: advertising in Florida for the residents of New York City.

1712
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: Come on in the water's fine, you're gonna love it here.

1713
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: So you have statistics demonstrating this, and of course, the

1714
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: only people that are replenishing the population for all these

1715
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: Americans who have left for better climbs are of course,

1716
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: the immigrant population. And the Democrats are all wigged out.

1717
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: They hate Donald Trump for removing the most notably the

1718
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: worst of the worst of the immigrant population, because of course,

1719
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: they got a census coming up, legal or illegal. If

1720
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 1: they're in your community, they're going to be counted toward

1721
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: the twenty thirty census not that far away. Real time,

1722
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: and of course that's going to determine the outcome of

1723
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,520
Speaker 1: the in the House of Representatives.

1724
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 2: So.

1725
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 1: Huge nefarious reality behind that, and then comes back to that.

1726
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Speaker 7: Not bad.

1727
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: I read this morning the civil literacy and the fact

1728
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:41,799
Speaker 1: that we Americans have failed in teaching the core basic

1729
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: civics to our own children, the founding principles that all

1730
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: children should know, the reason why our country was founded

1731
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 1: in the first place, why there was an American revolution

1732
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: in the first place, in the federalist papers and the

1733
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: concepts behind the Bill of Rights and our constant you

1734
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 1: get rid of all the philosophy behind that, you're left

1735
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: with really nothing to hang your hat on. And then,

1736
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: of course add to that a massive influx of people

1737
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: from different lands, and whether they're here for great reasons

1738
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 1: or terrible reasons, whether they want, you know, to latch

1739
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 1: themselves up to the umbilical court of our social welfare

1740
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: safety net, or they came here to get a job

1741
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: and work hard and participate. They lack civic literacy insofar

1742
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 1: as American civics are concerned. And that's a real problem

1743
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: because if you don't have people who are married to

1744
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: our concept, the concept of freedom and what we stood

1745
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 1: for and the reasons our country was formed. You have

1746
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: a nation full of people who really don't understand why

1747
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 1: they're even here except gee, I'm getting free stuff and things,

1748
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 1: or this is a better place to be than where

1749
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:56,480
Speaker 1: I came from. And I suppose looking at Mandami's policies,

1750
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 1: pivoting back over that two million out migrations number, I

1751
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:02,759
Speaker 1: think you can expect that to get a lot bigger,

1752
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 1: a whole lot bigger, at least insofar as the people

1753
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 1: who actually contribute to the tax base in New York

1754
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: City specifically, but perhaps even the entire state of New

1755
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: York seven forty seven. Right now, feel free to get

1756
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: a call. Got a couple of figures to go along

1757
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: with that before we get two, set me talk station

1758
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: seven fifty one at fifty five KRC detalk station. Yeah,

1759
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: running the numbers. I'll give credit to the Wall Street

1760
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 1: Journal for letting everybody know how much this is going

1761
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 1: to run. So, if you're a wealthy person in New York,

1762
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: raise the highest state corporate tax rate from up to

1763
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: eleven and a half percent from current seven point twenty five,

1764
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: they're expected to generate five billion dollars off of that.

1765
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Now that needs state lawmaker approval. So he's got to

1766
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: deal with the governor Hokal on that. So maybe he'll

1767
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: have five billion to work with. Maybe not. Remember all

1768
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 1: that money goes into the state coffer. How much will

1769
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: New York City be allocated from that? Will they get

1770
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 1: all of it? You'll have to answer to the other

1771
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: residents of the state of New York when you increase

1772
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: the tax, and then you have to look to see

1773
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: if anybody's going to hang around and let themselves be

1774
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 1: subjected to that kind of tax rate. It adds up,

1775
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 1: it really does. In New York. Then you got a

1776
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: millionaire's tax on that. So if you are making a

1777
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: million dollars or more, and there are a lot of

1778
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: people that make more than a million dollars in New York,

1779
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: because you practically have to make a million dollars a

1780
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: year to even afford to live there at all. So

1781
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 1: they want to bump that up. A fifty one percent

1782
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 1: increase on that, taking it up from three point eight

1783
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: eight to five point eight eight, expected to generate four

1784
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: billion dollars in revenue. See make the state personal income

1785
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: tax rate the highest in the country. Universal childcare is

1786
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: going to come in at a cost of between depending

1787
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: on who you listen to, three point five and nine

1788
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,640
Speaker 1: point five billion dollars annually, which I think consumes the

1789
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: vast majority of the tax. Is that he's proposing the

1790
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 1: increase which again are going to go to the state

1791
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: and not necessarily all new to New York's benefits. So

1792
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 1: you got a numbers game that's starting to add up.

1793
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: Do you know what the cost of this ridiculous universal

1794
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 1: child program where it's designed to indoctrinate your kids from

1795
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: six weeks old through fifth grade when they then enter

1796
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: the K through twelve education system, No, not tree Fitty Joe,

1797
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 1: twenty six thousand dollars per child described as up forty

1798
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: three percent since twenty nineteen. That number will not remain

1799
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: at that level, starting to go up. And where are

1800
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: all the employees going to come from that are now

1801
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: going to be responsible for six week olds up through

1802
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 1: five years old? I doubt there are enough daycare facilities

1803
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: in New York to cover that nut. And who in

1804
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: this world would turn a six week old baby over

1805
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: to a total stranger to raise during those critical bonding times.

1806
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: That's a question for you to deal with and wrestle

1807
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: with morally and ethically rent stabilization estimated cost for ten

1808
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 1: years seven billion dollars. He's planning on getting a seventy

1809
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: billion dollar municipal bond debt, which we'll have to pay

1810
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: interest on to fund the construction of two hundred thousand

1811
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: rent stabilized units. The billion dollar borrowing plan exceeds the

1812
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 1: city's current but a debt limit, and he'll need cooperation,

1813
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: yes again from the governor, to raise the debt limit.

1814
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: So there already a financial catastrophe, and he wants to

1815
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: exacerbate it. And I just kind of scratch my head

1816
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 1: and wonder, g what's gonna happen in New York's bond rating.

1817
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: Because if you're borrowing this kind of money, it does

1818
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: come at a cost, the interest costs. And let's see

1819
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 1: fast and free buses described as costing eight hundred million

1820
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 1: dollars annually unfact on that one, sure and make it. Fore,

1821
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: some are struggling with the concept of homeless people living

1822
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: on the buses and the obviously those that don't have

1823
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: the money are going to be riding the buses. Fine,

1824
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: that's the point, right, we need to help all those

1825
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,760
Speaker 1: folks who can't afford the nominal fee to ride the bus.

1826
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,799
Speaker 1: But as the journal points out, the city has historically

1827
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: used the bus and subway affares as a source of

1828
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 1: repayment for the bonds sold to investors to build and

1829
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 1: fix the transit system, which of course raises questions about

1830
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 1: what is going to replace the bus fares as a

1831
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: stable repayment source, and the pesky problem that the bondholders

1832
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: would need to consent to changing the source of repayment. Yeah,

1833
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: you can say you're going to do stuff in things,

1834
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 1: and you can make grandiose promises on the campaign trail,

1835
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: it all comes at a real cost, and obviously these

1836
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: are multiple layers of complications. So I'm interested, very interested

1837
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: in seeing what the Governor of New York decides by

1838
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 1: way of approval or disapproval of these grandiose policies. Seven

1839
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: fifty six have Sunshine laws And Kurt Hartman's gonna explain

1840
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: a little bit about him for the Empower Youth seminar

1841
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: coming up tonight at seven pm. Keegan Corcoran fifty five

1842
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: krses Wine Samolier. He is gonna be giving us information

1843
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 1: on the perfect wine pairing after you lose the election.

1844
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 1: That'll be an eight thirty stick around.

1845
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 5: For all of that.

1846
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: Today's stop it eight five right now. If you have

1847
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: KRC detalk station Happy Thursday. Thursday's mean if you're interested

1848
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: in the Power You America Class or Empower You American Classes,

1849
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: you get taken the Power of America Class seven pm.

1850
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: Thanks to Dan Reagan old fram USA, formerly owner and

1851
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: originator of the Empower Youth Seminar series as always tonight

1852
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: in addition to an amazing seminar on It's kind of

1853
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 1: like astronomy Tour of the Universe. You are here, you

1854
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 1: gotta be at the Empower Use Seminars Studios three hundred

1855
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 1: Great Oaks Drive to check this one out. You're gonna

1856
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 1: get a tour of the entire universe. You stop at

1857
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: the Moon, you go out and you inspect all the

1858
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 1: planets and apparently like a light speed simulation going out

1859
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: to Intertellar space to visit the universe and all the

1860
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: galaxies and just appreciate the insanity of how big the

1861
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: universe is. That should be an amazing class with Dan

1862
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: regas he's one of the renowned experts on such matters.

1863
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 1: But you're also going to get Kurt Hartman. I love

1864
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Kurt Hartman and everything he does attorney The Finny Law

1865
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 1: firm concentrates on commercial and constitutional litigation, as well as

1866
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: public interest litigation. You may have heard his name come

1867
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 1: up in connection with local government issues. Welcome back, Kurt Hartman.

1868
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the program again. It's great

1869
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 1: to hear from you, Sir Brian.

1870
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 7: Always great to be with you.

1871
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 1: Sunshine Laws and according to the materials, and I'm anxious

1872
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: for you to explain to my listeners at least a

1873
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: little insight into what you're gonna be talking about tonight.

1874
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: They are under attack and it might be more difficult

1875
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: for the general public to get records. There are laws

1876
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: on the books. The problem is it seems to be

1877
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 1: more theory versus practice. Let me throw this at you, Kurt.

1878
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 1: I can issue a Freedom of Information Act request. I

1879
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: can issue a request for government documents pursuing to the

1880
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: laws you're going to be talking about, the Sunshine Laws.

1881
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: Often those responsible for producing them ignore you, uh, and

1882
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 1: it goes by the wayside. You wait weeks and months

1883
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: they have passed the deadline for which to respond. Then

1884
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 1: it seems to me you almost have to have a

1885
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,600
Speaker 1: bank roll to pay lawyers to go to court. To

1886
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: enforce a law that's on the books that tells them

1887
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: they have the obligation to produce the stuff in the

1888
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 1: first place. It's gonna get worse.

1889
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 9: It's gonna get worse, yes, and has gotten worse, uh,

1890
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 9: by both a little bit because of the General Assembly's

1891
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 9: amendments to the Public Records Act, as well as a

1892
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 9: few decisions from the Ohouse Supreme Court, you know, instead

1893
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,520
Speaker 9: of you know, the Sunshine laws of their openness transparency.

1894
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

1895
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 9: You know, foundation principle is that your public records are

1896
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 9: the people's records, Yeah, and that they belong to the people,

1897
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 9: and that the public officials are simply trustees or custodians

1898
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 9: of them for the benefit of the public. But because

1899
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 9: it's a matter of state law, the General Assembly can

1900
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 9: put you know, and they constantly, it seems like each

1901
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,840
Speaker 9: General is something putting more and more exemptions or hurdles

1902
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 9: or obstacles, if you will, that favor of the government

1903
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 9: and undermine transparency. You just feel the things, and you know,

1904
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 9: we're just go talk briefly about it tonight as well,

1905
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 9: because I think this astronomy thing has really got to

1906
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 9: be the neat part about it.

1907
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 7: About my presentation.

1908
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 9: So to give you an example, I think one of

1909
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:25,719
Speaker 9: the things I'm really really disappointed in is just earlier

1910
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 9: this year they amended to state the Public Records Act

1911
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 9: with respect to getting your videos from police officers. Body

1912
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 9: cameras or cruiser videos used to be used to be

1913
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Speaker 9: able to put in a request and say hey, I

1914
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Speaker 9: want to get the body camera for this incident or

1915
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Speaker 9: that incident. Right, yeah, you can still get them, but

1916
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Speaker 9: now they have said, you know what a local law

1917
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Speaker 9: enforcement can authorize is authorized to charge you up to

1918
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Speaker 9: seven hundred and fifty dollars for the time and expense

1919
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Speaker 9: it takes to prepare go.

1920
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Speaker 7: Through redact that video.

1921
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Speaker 9: And so you know, if the average person has an

1922
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Speaker 9: interaction with law enforcement and just says, hey I need

1923
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 9: to see the video, want that video of my that's

1924
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 9: stop with the police officers. The department can say, hey,

1925
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 9: before we do it, you got to pay us x

1926
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 9: dollars up to seven hundred and fifty that we think

1927
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 9: it's going to take to get.

1928
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:20,600
Speaker 7: That video ready for you.

1929
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Speaker 9: So, for example, you know the infamous brawl downtown right right,

1930
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Speaker 9: you know there were body cameras. When the police finally responded,

1931
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 9: you put a request in and you know for that,

1932
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 9: it was like, hey, we want to charge you for it.

1933
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Speaker 1: We wait, is it real quickly?

1934
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Speaker 2: Right now?

1935
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Speaker 9: I did, And they did charge charge. They charged the

1936
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Speaker 9: news media when the news even the news media went

1937
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 9: in for it and they said, hey, in that case,

1938
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 9: they already charged them like twenty dollars plus or minus

1939
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 9: because they said, hey, we can do it pretty quickly.

1940
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 9: But again, it's this principle that hey, these are people's records.

1941
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 9: This is accountability, this is oversight.

1942
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Speaker 1: Kurt Hartman, let me ask you this. I am free

1943
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: as a citizen to go to the public records that

1944
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: are in the Clerk of Courts office. I can review

1945
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 1: them there. If I want a copy of them, I

1946
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: just pay to have a copy.

1947
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: May right.

1948
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: It's like the old Xerox stage put a diamond, you

1949
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 1: got a copy. But I can view them there. Why

1950
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: not just make the damn video available to the public

1951
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 1: at the police station or at some viewing area. They

1952
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 1: can look at it there and if they want to

1953
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: take a copy home with them, then let them. But

1954
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: more fundamentally, what's with the redaction thing? If this is

1955
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 1: a police officer in public doing the public servant's duty,

1956
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 1: why would I want a redacted video, and upon what

1957
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 1: basis would they take something out of it?

1958
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 9: Kurt Well, the reaction and usually what they do on

1959
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 9: the redactions of videos is they just blow a part

1960
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:49,919
Speaker 9: of it. It may be somebody giving their social security

1961
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 9: Usually it's like a social security number. Okay, somebody gives you,

1962
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 9: I guess your name, your social security number, or they.

1963
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 7: Have the police monitor in the vehicles.

1964
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 9: You know, they're looking at that un on somebody license

1965
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 9: play or somebody's ID, and the video captures the information

1966
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 9: on the screen. So that's the predominance of it. So

1967
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 9: there may be a few statements that are made. There

1968
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 9: may be some confidential information that you want redactive. So

1969
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,759
Speaker 9: it's not really that bad in terms of redacting the videos,

1970
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 9: but it's like, you know, the time to go track

1971
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 9: down the video, time to review it, the time to

1972
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 9: listen to it to make sure somebody doesn't tell tell

1973
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 9: a law enforcement Also, here's my social security number, go

1974
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 9: you go check me out. They can charge you now

1975
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 9: the time and their expense for preparing that. So you

1976
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 9: got you know, something like that, you know, and it's

1977
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 9: both complete.

1978
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 7: You know, the video is not only with.

1979
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 9: Law enforcement, but if you go to the prosecutors and

1980
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 9: say hey, I want that video. The prosecutors can also

1981
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 9: charge you for it. The other other interesting thing was

1982
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 9: they they the General Assembly put an edition in where

1983
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 9: they exempted or said hey, you can't get information of

1984
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 9: our communications members are communications with other members or staff.

1985
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 7: So when these.

1986
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:11,440
Speaker 9: Legislators are saying, hey, dear colleague, please support this legislation,

1987
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 9: dear colleague, please do this or that, you can't get

1988
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:18,600
Speaker 9: those in those correspondents. What until the General Assembly is

1989
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 9: no longer in session? What's the base thanks for going

1990
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 9: on while this information is being exchanged amongst members of

1991
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 9: the General Assembly. Nope, you can't see any of that.

1992
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 1: Well, it's at the point in time when you really

1993
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: critically need it before decisions are made. I don't want

1994
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: to review something after the fact, after they've already enacted

1995
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: some legislation or done done the work and it's all

1996
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,839
Speaker 1: over with. The real time reporting seems to be necessary

1997
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 1: for the public goods, so we can help, you know,

1998
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 1: it will inform us and allow us to give an

1999
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to or elected officials about which direction we want

2000
01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: them to go.

2001
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, especially when you think about the capital budget,

2002
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 9: the budget or the braking budget or the capital budget.

2003
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 9: You know, who's putting on who's advocating to put this

2004
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 9: line linelement of you know, a special deal or whatever.

2005
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 7: You know.

2006
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can find out about it two years later,

2007
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 9: a year later after the General Assembly you know.

2008
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 7: Is no longer in session.

2009
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh hey, we just found about about Operation Arctic

2010
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 1: Frosts that a parent was going on for a whole

2011
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: time under Trump administration, violating everybody's constitutional rights. But it

2012
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 1: takes time to get out the information. But what of

2013
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,560
Speaker 1: the what is the motivation behind this cracking down on

2014
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: publicly available information? What's driving this? Because it's going the

2015
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:28,640
Speaker 1: opposite direction, Kurt, from where I would want it to go,

2016
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: because I'm in favor of giving us everything that we want,

2017
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: since we're paying for all the work that they do

2018
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 1: and they're impacting our lives every day.

2019
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I just think I think it is more deference,

2020
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 9: you know, to to the government. That government, you know,

2021
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 9: and the government at the Prostitutors Association or you know,

2022
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 9: complain about all we're getting in in data with these

2023
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 9: public records requests. You're distracting quote unquote distracting us from

2024
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 9: doing our job. Well, part of their job is getting

2025
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:04,560
Speaker 9: information to the public. And I think that developed this

2026
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 9: lack of appreciation. You know, then that is part of

2027
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 9: their job. And so and so the and the General Assembly,

2028
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 9: you know, reacts says, okay, fine, we'll help you here.

2029
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 9: You know, it's almost a death of a thousand cuts. Yes,

2030
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 9: you know, okay, this may not be a big thing.

2031
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 7: That may not be a big thing, you know.

2032
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, another thing they except now are

2033
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 9: the work schedules, you know from what they call is

2034
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,599
Speaker 9: what they call designated public workers, but essentially it's law

2035
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 9: enforcement officers, you know, et cetera. You know, and I'll

2036
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 9: tell you I've done requests before to say, hey, I'd

2037
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 9: like to see, you know, the schedule for who's on duty,

2038
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 9: you know, two weeks ago or five weeks ago.

2039
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 7: That's now exempt.

2040
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 9: You can't get the work schedules for law enforcement and

2041
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 9: so you know, I mean, I can understand a prospectively,

2042
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 9: you know something going forward, I don't want to see

2043
01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 9: who's on duty next week.

2044
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 1: Right right right, And these trying times we live in

2045
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 1: the docsing the whole idea of having target law enforcement officers,

2046
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 1: specific ones perhaps targeted knowing where they're going to be

2047
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 1: and at what time. It's a little bit or well

2048
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 1: and creepy that that might be readily available, and I

2049
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 1: understand around the margins, but not a broad brush approach

2050
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 1: to this, just saying no, you cannot have that under

2051
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 1: any circumstances, and.

2052
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 9: You cannot have who was on duty four weeks ago.

2053
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, that doesn't make any sense either, because that

2054
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:28,759
Speaker 1: could be critical information.

2055
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 9: But again, it's this react I think it's reactionary to

2056
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 9: special interest within the government, you.

2057
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,560
Speaker 7: Know, I mean, but if you think about it, and

2058
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 7: it's amazing.

2059
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 9: You know, there are all these lobbying type organizations, right yeah,

2060
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 9: and some of them are paid for by taxpayer dollars.

2061
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:46,639
Speaker 7: You know, the Ohio Municipal League.

2062
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 9: The Ohio Taxpayer Association, Prosecutors Association. You know, they are

2063
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 9: all lobbying type groups up in Columbus that are formed

2064
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 9: and organized and consist of the government officials. And it's

2065
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 9: being paid for by are tax dollars. So you have

2066
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 9: tax dollars lobbing to undermine you know, the public interest

2067
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 9: and there and the general public we're paying, we're paying

2068
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 9: to be lobbying against. But you know, nobody pays to

2069
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 9: lobby for the individuals.

2070
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Well, then there's the other component of kind of the

2071
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 1: springboard for our conversation on this. There are laws on

2072
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: the books which allow us to have these records. You're

2073
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 1: pointing that out. They're changing them to make it more

2074
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 1: difficult find But when they don't even comply with the

2075
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: law in the book in any form, and you got

2076
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: to go to court to get them to an issue

2077
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: there to to produce the documents you've asked for, they're

2078
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 1: inviting the public, the taxpayer dollars, to have to pay

2079
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,719
Speaker 1: for litigation expenses on their side of the ledger because

2080
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 1: they refuse to do the job they're supposed to do

2081
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: it hand over the information. Shouldn't there be some sort

2082
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 1: of harsher harsher penalty for those who refuse. How do

2083
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: you how do you bring about compliance without litigation? Kurt?

2084
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 9: In a certain sense, you can't, you know. I mean, yeah,

2085
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 9: they've got public office, is what I'll slow wrong. I

2086
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 9: mean you talked about, you know, going down to the

2087
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 9: clerk of Court's office. Right, Hey, I want to go

2088
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 9: see a court record, I can just go down there,

2089
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 9: get to look at it, and if I want to copy,

2090
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 9: give me a copy.

2091
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 7: I've got a lawsuit over that case.

2092
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 9: I'm actually suing the Hamilton County Clerk of Courts because

2093
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 9: their office refused to provide and allow the inspection. Just

2094
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 9: somebody to go in and see a court case, you know,

2095
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 9: because and it dealt with the brawl. If you remember

2096
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 9: when the city of Cincinnati decided they wanted to you know,

2097
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 9: charge criminally you know the victim, the guy.

2098
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: The guy who got beaten up the Russian.

2099
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 9: Yeah right, the Russian go down, say hey, we want

2100
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 9: to see that filing. What did the city file? And

2101
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 9: the Clerk of Courts was no, we're not going to

2102
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 9: let you see it. There's a motion to seal that case.

2103
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 9: So until the judge decides. Well, whether about the judge

2104
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 9: decided to seal it or not didn't matter. We're there

2105
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 9: saying we want to inspect it. They said no, so

2106
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 9: we had to sue it. We're suing them over and

2107
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 9: they've got litigation going over that. There's something that's basically

2108
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 9: as a court record. And it's just this attitude, you know.

2109
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 9: And it's not a partisan that dude, I think you

2110
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 9: get it from both sides of the while.

2111
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 7: And so you know, you're right, the.

2112
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 9: Option is the negation The thing is, you know you

2113
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 9: talk about hiring attorneys, and you got to hire attorneys. Now,

2114
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,920
Speaker 9: if you win the court, can you know, usually will

2115
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 9: will award you your attorney fees or at least some

2116
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 9: of your attorney fees. That seems to be the option

2117
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 9: they given. That's the only option you really have. I mean,

2118
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 9: you know, the concept of the philosophy is, you know,

2119
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 9: the remedy is elections. You know, if somebody is doing something,

2120
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 9: not performing their public office right or appropriate, the remedy

2121
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:35,799
Speaker 9: is vote them out at the next election.

2122
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 7: But I hate to say, I mean, if Tuesday Todd.

2123
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 9: Is anything, it's like, you know, the people will just

2124
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,560
Speaker 9: but you know, the majority of them, it appears in

2125
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 9: the city of Cincinnati will just follow follow sheep literally whatever.

2126
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 9: You know, it's the Democrats slate card.

2127
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 7: I'll just blindly voteed and this, you know.

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Speaker 1: But on Tuesday, You're right, I understand that, understand that,

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Speaker 1: and that quite often is the only remedy we were

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Speaker 1: left with and by to the fact that it doesn't

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Speaker 1: always work to our advantage. But the world keeps going on.

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Speaker 1: Litigation continues. These issues can't wait for elections to resolve themselves.

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Speaker 1: They have an obligation to produce information. You need it

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Speaker 1: now as a part of maybe the defense of your

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Speaker 1: client or some other issue in a civil litigation. Give

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Speaker 1: us the damn information.

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Speaker 9: No, and you you try it, but you know, there

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Speaker 9: was one of the decisions. Chief Justice Kennedy said, you know,

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Speaker 9: sometimes when you get the information is just as important

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Speaker 9: as what the information is. But unfortunately, the next time

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Speaker 9: I see the Chief Justice, I'm going to kind of

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Speaker 9: you know, vendor air a little bit. You follow these

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Speaker 9: lawsuits at the Supreme Court to get these records, it

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Speaker 9: takes them a year to issue.

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Speaker 1: Decision exactly exactly, you know, and that doesn't do.

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Speaker 7: Any good for anybody either.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 9: It just seems the decisions coming out from the court

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Speaker 9: taking longer than they have historically and definitely longer than

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Speaker 9: they should. And so, yeah, you get your victory at

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Speaker 9: the end of the day, you get your victory a

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Speaker 9: year from now saying yeah, you're in title to those records.

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Speaker 9: But then but then you turn around the next stage,

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Speaker 9: similar issue arises. The governments they know they can slow

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Speaker 9: roll you on public records.

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Speaker 1: Happens time and time.

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Speaker 2: I call that a lot.

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Speaker 9: With the City of Sepia's you know, I've got numerous

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Speaker 9: requests into the City of Cincinnati on behalf of clients.

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Speaker 9: City slow rolls it we're looking at.

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Speaker 7: We've got to review it. I mean, even some basic records.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is this is not just a local or

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Speaker 1: stay phenomenon. This happens all the time in the federal

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Speaker 1: government level, perhaps even more. I've had Congressman Weinstrop in

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Speaker 1: here talking to you know, he's in he's in some

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Speaker 1: meeting or hearing about some issue, and he asks the

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Speaker 1: intelligence community or whoever's in front of him for the information.

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Speaker 1: They basically say, no, we're not going to give it

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Speaker 1: to you. I mean, this is he's on behalf of

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Speaker 1: the American taxpayers trying to get to the bottom of

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Speaker 1: answers and questions. The information is out there, and they

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01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 1: blanket just say, basically, go to hell, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: give it to you. This is the world we live in.

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Speaker 1: And I find that as offensive as it can possibly be. Kurt,

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01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,080
Speaker 1: is this done and baked into the cake? Or we

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Speaker 1: have time to get in touch with our elected officials.

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Speaker 1: Where are we with in terms of these Open Records

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Speaker 1: and Open Meetings Act reforms?

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Speaker 9: Well, those reforms have already gone in you know, I mean,

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Speaker 9: I know in terms of restricting the General Assembly in

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Speaker 9: terms of that, you know, being able to charge up

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Speaker 9: to seven hundred and fifty dollars you know for videos.

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Speaker 9: I knew the newspaper association and actually very critical of it.

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Speaker 9: You know, I was just crying it while was being considered.

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Speaker 9: But that those are those arguments apparently set on death fears. Well,

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01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 9: you know, at the end of the day, the problem,

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01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 9: I think the General Assembly realizes this is not the

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Speaker 9: trans this aspect of openness and transparency.

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Speaker 7: Is not a priority for voters.

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Speaker 9: You know, voters are more going to be more interested

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Speaker 9: in their public safety, the economy, their taxes.

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Speaker 7: You know, if this was on a picking moder list,

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Speaker 7: it's going to be very low on that list.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weed dweller issue, Kurt, I'll can see.

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Speaker 1: But that's why we have you to look out for

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Speaker 1: our best interest and keep looking at where the weeds

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Speaker 1: are and what the problems are with them. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of funny and comical. It's adding insult to

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Speaker 1: injury seven hundred and fifty bucks. That's after you litigate

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Speaker 1: and win the litigation to get them to produce the documents.

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Speaker 1: Then you're gonna be whacked with a seven hundred fifty

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Speaker 1: dollars charge right.

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Speaker 7: Well, actually, actually probably wouldn't have.

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Speaker 9: A case until you say, here's my money, okay for

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Speaker 9: day Dane, don't even have to prepare the video until

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Speaker 9: you pay whatever their estimate is that it's going to cost.

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Speaker 1: Pay up front. We'll get around to it sometime, maybe

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Speaker 1: a year from now. Kurt Hartman is gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: all about this tonight in the Take twenty segment of

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Speaker 1: the empower Use seminar, which will include a fascinating tour

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01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: of the universe. Takes place at three hundred Great Oaks

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01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 1: Drive in studio or you can log in from home,

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01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 1: but I think you will certainly benefit from being there

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01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 1: for the fascinating tour of the universe, and of course

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Speaker 1: you can ask Greg our Kurt a few questions. Kurt,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this morning and

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Speaker 1: for taking on this task tonight. I hope you have

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Speaker 1: a really well attended seminar tonight.

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Speaker 7: Great. Thank you, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Keep up your great work, brother, you're really helping out

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Speaker 1: A eight twenty nine fifty five KRC detalk station Slight

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Speaker 1: dramatic build up in anticipation of post election defeat, wine

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Speaker 1: choices in studio, the fifty five KRC residents Samier, we

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Speaker 1: keep them parked in the closet. Keegan Corcoran. Now actually

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01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 1: he's from Magnician Wines Wine wine wholesaler. Keegan is almost

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Speaker 1: as high as you can get in terms of standings

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Speaker 1: globally for Samier, he is just below the highest most

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Speaker 1: lofty status ever. You're one of four hundred six hundred roughly,

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01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 1: and what's the level advanced Advance and then there's master, right, Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So someday the snobbery only increases from here. Oh lord almighty,

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Speaker 1: you won't even be in the same room at me

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Speaker 1: with man. I read the tests questions, yeah, your dad

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01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 1: sent them over to me. Really yeah, yeah, the fifty

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Speaker 1: pages single space questions, like you know, I just it

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Speaker 1: is the most insane amount of volume of information. I

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Speaker 1: could not believe the stuff you're supposed to know for

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Speaker 1: that test.

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Speaker 12: Those were if he sent you the file, I'm thinking

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01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 12: because my dad and my mom. But my dad was

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Speaker 12: the one who was like reading the questions for me,

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Speaker 12: like in preparation leading up to the exam, the Masters

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Speaker 12: of the Exam, which yes, at for in April, you

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01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 12: know that that is Yeah, single space questions and it's

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Speaker 12: about seven I think it's about seventy five pages.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's total.

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Speaker 12: That's just the the written part. Well, that's just me

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01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 12: like transponting my note cards for this exam to that.

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01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 12: So the volume information extends out beyond further than that. Yes, certainly,

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Speaker 12: just stuff. You know, there's no point for me like

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Speaker 12: to burn questions that I already know. So it's you know,

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Speaker 12: the theory is anyways, like once you start to really

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Speaker 12: cement the information, you can start eliminating questions and then

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Speaker 12: hopefully you know, minimize your quote unquote deck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah of questions. Well that's why there are only four

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Speaker 1: hundred I'm in the planet because looking at those questions,

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Speaker 1: we're all nuts and are so many people. You are

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Speaker 1: absolutely insane wine people. But congratulations, I'm glad we have

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01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 1: folks like that. You will pass at some point, and

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01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 1: most people do not pass their first, second, third, fourth time.

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Speaker 1: It's just then extraordinary challenge in studio. Also, I can

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Speaker 1: never look Thomas Woodley, who's here from Lydian Winery which

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Speaker 1: is located in outside of Seattle, Washington, and he's brought

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Speaker 1: some selections. What we're doing today is using the Tuesday election.

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Speaker 1: We'll say losses. I don't even know what your political

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Speaker 1: affiliation is, Thomas, it doesn't matter. But if you're reeling

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Speaker 1: from an election loss and you're feeling blue, or you're

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Speaker 1: in a celebratory mood, you want to drink something. You

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Speaker 1: brought some great wines with you to talk about today.

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Speaker 11: Thank you.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's wines for every occasion. I think either way,

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01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 13: it's good angst relief. So that's kind of what we're

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Speaker 13: going for.

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Speaker 1: We're always looking for an excuse to drink. It's a

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Speaker 1: okay so, and you're fine doing that here in the

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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Although there are rules that prohibit the drinking

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Speaker 1: of wine in the studio, we're going to certainly abide

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Speaker 1: by those rules, or at least we're going to give

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Speaker 1: the perception that we are. Starting with Hold on, it's Justine. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's the name of the wine. And remember this is

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Speaker 1: a Venia winery. A ve e n N I A

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Speaker 1: I got that right, yeah, Jachima Valley, Oh no, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the red wine. That's not the one we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. We're on the Lydian SBS Lydion SBS. I apologize,

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Speaker 1: I'm not the saumier. That's what we got one here

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Speaker 1: to keep me on track. So this is a white

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Speaker 1: one with an eighty percent so on bloc and twenty

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Speaker 1: sem semion. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 13: And the name Lydian refers to the musical mode in

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Speaker 13: so the winery where there's six of us, half of

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Speaker 13: them are classically trained musicians, so there's a lot of

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Speaker 13: music nerds, and uh, Lydian is one of the classical

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Speaker 13: building blocks in music theory.

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Speaker 1: So that scale that's on.

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Speaker 13: The label is the actual Lydian mode itself.

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Speaker 1: And you can play that on piano, no kidding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I throw my what eight years of piano, six

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Speaker 1: years of trumpet, a little bit of clarinet out the

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Speaker 1: window because I never took music theory. Yeah yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you're on triangle now. Basically I can still eat set

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Speaker 1: music slowly and very very painfully. I can get through

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Speaker 1: the piano still, but I don't I don't practice much anymore.

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Speaker 1: But this this wine, you know, if I was able

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Speaker 1: to taste it, I would call it amazingly refresh refreshing, light,

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Speaker 1: not dry. What would you characterize it in terms of,

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Speaker 1: you know, on a scale of you know, really dry,

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Speaker 1: too sweet.

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Speaker 13: I mean it's it's it's it's technically dry in the

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Speaker 13: sense that it doesn't have a whole lot of residual sugar.

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Speaker 13: But a lot of times you get with with especially

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Speaker 13: with semion, you get like perceptible fruit sweetness.

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Speaker 10: M hm.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, it's kind of always hard to parse out

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Speaker 13: when you're talking about sweetness because some people refer to actually,

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Speaker 13: when we're in the wine world, how much residual sugar

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Speaker 13: is left over from fermentation?

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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 13: So they stopped the fermentation at a certain level, you know,

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Speaker 13: especially just taking like German reesling for example, At certain

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Speaker 13: levels they stop the fermentation. Those wines have a resultant

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Speaker 13: lower alcohol ABV because some of that sugar was left

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Speaker 13: to not metabolize and stay in the wine.

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Speaker 1: That's what impacts the alcohol level.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Because I was jokingly saying to Keegan when he

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Speaker 1: came in, I said, we're drowning our sorrows. I suspect

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Speaker 1: what you brought in are all the highest alcohol by

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Speaker 1: volume wines that are out there.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean these are. This one isn't super high,

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Speaker 13: it's like thirteen percent, but the but The idea is

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Speaker 13: is that when the grapes come in, when the grapes

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Speaker 13: come in ripe, they all are fully ripe in terms

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Speaker 13: of potential, sort of think of it in terms of

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Speaker 13: like high school physics, like potential and kinetic energy, right right,

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Speaker 13: and they so they have they're all fully ripe. It's

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Speaker 13: just a question of how far do you let that

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Speaker 13: sugar metabolize into alcohol during fermentation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so one of my favorites, Keegan those dulce it's

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Speaker 1: a dessert wine, Yes, that kind of thing. They let

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Speaker 1: the grape go as far as it can go in

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Speaker 1: terms of ripening. It's almost to the point where it's mushy. Right.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's like would be like considered like a late harvest.

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Speaker 13: So that's even like pushing the sugar levels beyond what

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Speaker 13: a normal table wine would be got. And then and

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Speaker 13: then they still have to they still have to ferment

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Speaker 13: the hell out of it just to get it to

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Speaker 13: even that level. And typically and typically those wines are

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Speaker 13: even more difficult to make because you have to have

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Speaker 13: really strong yeasts that are going to continue to metabolize

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Speaker 13: the sugar into alcohol.

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Speaker 1: And a huge human element in terms of harvesting too,

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Speaker 1: because you have to pick them just at the exact

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, or if you get into stuff that's

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Speaker 13: actual ice wine, yeah, you get you get like in

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Speaker 13: you know, they can make ice wine by actually freezing

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Speaker 13: the grapes, but it kind of is.

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Speaker 1: But but traditional ice wine extraction.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but traditional ice wine.

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Speaker 1: They they actually.

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Speaker 13: Harvested after the clusters have have frozen on their own

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Speaker 13: just because of weather, and then they come in.

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Speaker 1: But that that accounts for why they're comparatively expensive. Yes,

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Speaker 1: very laborious, very laborious. We're gonna continue with Thomas Woodley

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Speaker 1: and Keegan Corcoran.

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Speaker 5: Keean.

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Speaker 1: You can find Keegan if you're interested in commercial or

2367
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Speaker 1: wholesale purchases of wine, if you're a winery or a

2368
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Speaker 1: wine store, a restaurant, anybody out there that's interested in

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Speaker 1: working with Keegan. He's amazing. He's the greatest guy in

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Speaker 1: the world when it comes up. You know, it's just

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Speaker 1: his personality, his friendliness, his knowledge is clearly impeccable. In

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Speaker 1: ignitionwines dot com, and you focus primarily on domestic wines

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Speaker 1: or because I was going to ask you about paus,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you about tariffs. Sure, and see

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Speaker 1: if that's impacted your world and given what you sell,

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Speaker 1: because I know it's a real problem for some European

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Speaker 1: winery or things like that. Solastic. We'll pause. Bring Keegan

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Speaker 1: and Thomas back AT's tight thirty seven Right now fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRCIT Talks Station. Something is happening.

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Speaker 2: It's time to.

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Speaker 1: Forty one fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Brian Thomas with

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Speaker 1: resident wine samer Keegan Corkoran in studio ignitionwines dot com

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Speaker 1: and one of the restaurant groups that works with Keegan.

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Speaker 1: You may have heard of Jeff Ruby. Jeff Ruby restaurant. Keegan.

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Speaker 12: You were there for twenty years as their their head

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Speaker 12: so many a uh not in that in that position

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Speaker 12: as beverage director for about the last eight I was

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Speaker 12: with them for twenty years. Yeah, all right, And if

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02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 12: you accumulated all that knowledge and experience, that's when you

2390
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:23,680
Speaker 12: broke off and decided you're going to go on your

2391
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:25,920
Speaker 12: own and do a wholesale wine. And you've been very

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Speaker 12: successful that you're still working with the Ruby restaurants. And

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Speaker 12: I failed to mention this amazing uh sps from Lydian Winer.

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Speaker 12: He's Thomas Woodley in studio from Lydian is available at

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Speaker 12: E and O restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: E and O.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure, all three of their restaurants. And uh,

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Speaker 12: you know, they do a they do a great job.

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Speaker 12: Shout out to my buddy Tim that works over there.

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Speaker 12: He's he's the man.

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Speaker 1: Tim. Appreciate it and you're working with the right guy.

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Speaker 1: Keigon Corkoran moving over, Oh real quick on the Lydion SPS,

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Speaker 1: which is again the Sauvignon blanc semi on mix. What

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02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 1: you would you recommend serving this with? It's pretty much

2406
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 1: it's just really good. I can see this having very

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02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:07,880
Speaker 1: broad applications including like, you know, just sitting down and drinking. Yeah,

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02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's great for first course.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's a day where even when you get

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Speaker 13: a sunny day like we had like yesterday, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 13: just go sit out on the back deck and enjoy it.

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Speaker 12: Thomas always brings the great weather, by the way, when

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02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 12: he comes in, like every market visit likes, the weather

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Speaker 12: is just perfect.

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Speaker 1: Guess is not normal. I think that's I think that's.

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Speaker 13: Just due to the fact that I'm a born and

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Speaker 13: raised Seattleite and the weather gods look upon me unfavorably

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Speaker 13: most of the year. VIM from Seattle, so I come here,

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Speaker 13: they do me a solid in any place I travel to,

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Speaker 13: they're like, hey, you know what, We're gonna give you

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Speaker 13: some some ringer weather for a few days.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, consider I grab the wrong wine when

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Speaker 1: I was talking about the the sbs now in hand,

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Speaker 1: the Avenia that is the winery.

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Speaker 13: Venni is the main winery.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Justine is the name of the wine. And it's

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Speaker 1: it's just a described as a red wine, which I

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Speaker 1: presume is a blend.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's a it's a what we call a GSM,

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Speaker 13: so it's a it's a that's sort of a catch

2431
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 13: all term for a Southern rond blend. It's primarily almost

2432
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Speaker 13: two thirds grenache with Maved and Sarah, so we're equal

2433
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 13: fans of Bordeaux and Roan varieties at of Ania, so

2434
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:20,920
Speaker 13: you can find examples, really beautiful examples of both great

2435
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Speaker 13: varietal blends. And the name Justine is a cool story.

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Speaker 13: It's there's a writer by the name of Lawrence Durell,

2437
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Speaker 13: and he was his first book that was a part

2438
02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 13: of the Alexandria trilogy came out in nineteen fifty seven

2439
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Speaker 13: and Justine was the sort of mysterious heroine that he

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Speaker 13: followed around and was beguiled him. So that's why Chris

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Speaker 13: our winemaker, who's a literary guy like me, came up.

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Speaker 1: With the gun crew over your one. It's a fun crew.

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Speaker 13: Stereo wars are a real thing, man. I mean, you

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Speaker 13: got three classically trained musicians, and Chris and I both

2445
02:07:54,280 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 13: work in record stores growing up. It's it's knockdown, drag out.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot of opinions. I can absolutely man. All right,

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Speaker 13: Keegan Corcoran, since you are so amazing at breaking down flavors.

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Speaker 13: I just recounted to the story about this little note.

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Speaker 13: I was thinking it was like black pepper. There was

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Speaker 13: a little bite in this wine that I really love.

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02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 13: And I'm like, drive me crazy, I asked Keegan. I

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Speaker 13: send him a text, But what the hell is that ginger?

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Speaker 10: That's it?

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Speaker 1: That's right, because there's a bite to ginger, that ginger

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Speaker 1: flavors right there. I kind of sat for years and

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Speaker 1: thought about it. Never would have come up with that.

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Speaker 1: It took you two seconds. What would you say this

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Speaker 1: of any Justine has by way of flavor?

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Speaker 12: So I think it's a very classic interpretation of or

2460
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,760
Speaker 12: a domestic take on you know what Thomas said, so

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Speaker 12: rowned varieties, particularly for me, Southern rhone, which is a classic,

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Speaker 12: so it's a part of France and the kind of

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Speaker 12: southeastern ish part of the country. But you know where

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Speaker 12: they grow a lot of grenache, Surrah mor Vedra, and

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02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:52,840
Speaker 12: you know the flavor profiles for those wines. And then

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Speaker 12: also on this wine typically is you've got this kind

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Speaker 12: of brambly black blue, kind of purple fruited care mixed

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Speaker 12: with my biggest marker besides like like almost a chewy meatiness,

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Speaker 12: but my biggest marker for both that place and then

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Speaker 12: this style of wine is typically white pepper versus like

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Speaker 12: coarse black pepper, So it has like a which anyone

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Speaker 12: that cooks a lot of what there's a difference between

2473
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 12: course of black pepper and then powder each pepper and

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Speaker 12: and that soft note of white pepper always takes me

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Speaker 12: to not only those particular particular particular varieties, but also

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Speaker 12: a particular region too, so it helps you kind of

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Speaker 12: narrow it down. And like I, you know, I like

2478
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 12: to talk to or envision like an old timey switchboard operator.

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02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 12: That's usually my thing. So like when I when I

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Speaker 12: am describing how people can make those connections in their brains.

2481
02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:45,040
Speaker 12: It's very similar to that. So learning how to taste

2482
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 12: wine describe wine aptly is very much experiential. And the

2483
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 12: more of those dots that you connect. So again, like

2484
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 12: to the switchboard kind of thing, imagine you're you know,

2485
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Speaker 12: I know that maybe for gen Z this doesn't track, but.

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Speaker 1: You know it does, right, But my audience understands where

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Speaker 1: you're right.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, But I mean, you know, if you're the switchboard

2489
02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 12: operator and the call comes in like, hey, I want

2490
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 12: to talk to banana, it's like, okay, well I know

2491
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 12: exactly where that goes because you know, I recognize the voice. Right,

2492
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:12,320
Speaker 12: We've all had bananas a million times. Sure, if you

2493
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:14,880
Speaker 12: close your eyes and I gave you a banana, you'd

2494
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 12: be like, there's no doubt that this is banana. Well,

2495
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:20,240
Speaker 12: if you extrapolate that out across you know, all these

2496
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,960
Speaker 12: different types of fruits, flavors, and then conditions. So for example,

2497
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Speaker 12: like overripe banana, green banana, those have very different flavors

2498
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 12: and textures, right, yeah, So apply that to the entire world,

2499
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Speaker 12: which is billions and billions and billions of different you know,

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Speaker 12: flavors and whatnot. You know, you can you can build

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Speaker 12: this switchboard of like you recognize very rapidly the voices

2502
02:10:42,240 --> 02:10:42,760
Speaker 12: when they call.

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Speaker 1: If that makes so, you're basically saying, we should just

2504
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 1: keep drinking more and more line until we finally can

2505
02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:51,240
Speaker 1: connect our switchboard to break this up, until the light

2506
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 1: bulb goes on and while you're drinking.

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Speaker 13: The other fun fact is that when you're picking up

2508
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:02,520
Speaker 13: all these flavors, you're not picking up analogs of those flavors,

2509
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:08,760
Speaker 13: the esters and flavor combinations that are present in a berry,

2510
02:11:08,840 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 13: a grape berry, regardless whatever varietal it is. It's the

2511
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:15,720
Speaker 13: same chemical compounds that make say, strawberry tastes like strawberry,

2512
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:18,960
Speaker 13: or banana tastes like banana. It's not reminiscent of those things.

2513
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 13: It literally is those things.

2514
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:24,720
Speaker 1: Gotcha or snosberry tastes. No excell Willie Walker fans out there.

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02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 1: Eight forty seven will continue with Thomas Woodley and Keegan

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Speaker 1: Corkoran ignitionwines dot Com where you find kee Gonna be

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02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:34,560
Speaker 1: right back in the morning. We have breaking news, comedy,

2518
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Speaker 1: rc the Talk Station fifty two fifty five RCD Talk Station,

2519
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 1: A little PGA there for you as a close out

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Speaker 1: the morning show Here on a beautiful Friday Eve with

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02:11:49,600 --> 02:11:52,600
Speaker 1: Keegan Corcoran from Ignition Wines online at Ignitionwines dot com

2522
02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 1: wholesale distributor if you are interested in wholesale purchases. He

2523
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:58,880
Speaker 1: is the man, and Thomas Woodley from Lidian Wines says,

2524
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:01,320
Speaker 1: outside of Seattle, washing in with some amazing wines they

2525
02:12:01,400 --> 02:12:04,240
Speaker 1: brought in today. Drown your sorrows or celebrate. Either way

2526
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Speaker 1: you go, You've got outstanding options. These options that we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with today, the Avennia Justine, the Lydian sbs, and

2528
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:19,480
Speaker 1: finally the Avenia. Gravlora not Guevara, the don't tell me that, Tom,

2529
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:23,320
Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's a political, a political grav Lora

2530
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:25,400
Speaker 1: where the name come from. This is another red wine,

2531
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:27,920
Speaker 1: but it is remarkably different in taste than the other one,

2532
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:29,840
Speaker 1: even though I'm not allowed to taste it. Yeah, So

2533
02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 1: it's so.

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02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:35,000
Speaker 13: Grava is a tribute to the Grove region of Bordeaux.

2535
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 13: So just just south of the left Bank, there's an

2536
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 13: area if you look on a map called Grove and

2537
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:44,560
Speaker 13: it's gravelly soil. But it's a place where Cabernet Sauvignon

2538
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:48,120
Speaker 13: and Merlau play as kind of equal partners.

2539
02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:52,080
Speaker 1: Oh and look, it's Cabernet Sauvignon, Merleau and Cabernet franc

2540
02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:53,520
Speaker 1: so perfect name.

2541
02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:58,480
Speaker 13: Yeah. So it's a it's a like quintessential Washington State

2542
02:12:58,560 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 13: Bordo blend.

2543
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 1: Right, and if I was allowed to drink it, I

2544
02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:05,680
Speaker 1: would think this will be drier than the last one

2545
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:07,880
Speaker 1: we had, which was also a red blend. Correct, Yeah,

2546
02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 1: what are you Hpathetically? I think every time we think

2547
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:15,440
Speaker 1: of a cabernet tasting wine, which probably this is leaning

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Speaker 1: it because it has a predominantly cabernet great land, I

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Speaker 1: always think of red meat rich, like holiday feast type food.

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Speaker 13: Oh, this is both the Justine and the Griver exceptional

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Speaker 13: holiday wines. I mean they whether you're doing turkey for

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Speaker 13: Thanksgiving or you're going to get into a you know,

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Speaker 13: standing rib roast type scenario for Christmas time, it'll it'll

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Speaker 13: absolutely play well with both.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and note comments on this one. Hegan it's delicious.

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Speaker 11: I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's what you expect to sell to say it's delicious. No,

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Speaker 1: you know it's a supertentious wine.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I you know, this is uh it's the fruit

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Speaker 12: I think is softer. It has a nice mix of

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Speaker 12: like red and black fruit. But the nice thing that

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Speaker 12: I think are the the one of the main attributes

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Speaker 12: that have attracted or has attracted me to this winery

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Speaker 12: and this wine making team and the style of wines

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Speaker 12: that they do is they're not to hang out with. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 12: that first and foremost, but it's you know, they're there

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Speaker 12: are wines that are they're not overt they don't just

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Speaker 12: you know, hit you over the head with flavor by

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Speaker 12: way of like you know, that's you're only getting one thing.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of like wines. You can pull the

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Speaker 1: shelf food not overwhelming exactly. I mean you can.

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Speaker 12: There's a lot of wines on the shelf that certainly

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Speaker 12: have their stylistic you know the places, but so you

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Speaker 12: can you can pull something off the shelf sometimes and

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Speaker 12: you and you drink and say, man, all I get

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Speaker 12: is this one thing and it's just like it's right

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Speaker 12: in the middle of the stage, that kind of thing,

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Speaker 12: and that's the only thing I can focus on no

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Speaker 12: matter what I'm eating with it. But these are very

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Speaker 12: complimentary to to food.

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Speaker 1: All right. Other than eno restaurants where these are all served.

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Speaker 1: Where else can people get them? If they want to

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Speaker 1: buy in bulk, they go through you in Egnis short.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, country Fresh jungle gyms certainly, Yeah, they're they're

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Speaker 12: they're kind of all over the place.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to experience the price point. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to ask you, but at a jungle gyms where these

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Speaker 1: might be available, what are the price points the range

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Speaker 1: for the wines that we've had here today in front of.

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Speaker 12: It, so retail, you know, talking high teens to you know,

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Speaker 12: the Grivera would be closer to fifty Oh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, well still within the realm of affordability.

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Speaker 1: From my standpoint, I agree a lot cheaper than something

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Speaker 1: will be imported from France, which are subject to tariffs.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get around to that, but right, that's what

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Speaker 1: does that increase the price for what was the tariff

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Speaker 1: on the like a Bordeaux.

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Speaker 12: Or well, so I have I have a palette of

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Speaker 12: a Spanish wine that just landed, and so now I'm

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Speaker 12: looking at you know, the ten percent and that's and

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Speaker 12: you know it's but added on to especially for a

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Speaker 12: small distributor like myself, that that's that impacts my business

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Speaker 12: in a massive way. But then also, you know Thomas

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Speaker 12: is in Washington and the business with Canada significant. You

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Speaker 12: can speak to this better than.

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Speaker 1: At a time. Sorry, I don't. Joe's already give me

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Speaker 1: the hairy eyeball. That's why I'm sorry for waiting so

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Speaker 1: long to ask the terriff question. King Cork in edition

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Speaker 1: of wines dot Com. Thomas Woodley, It's been a real

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Speaker 1: pleasure having you in studio. Man, you do some great

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Speaker 1: work out there.

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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Sounding a great crew too, We're good eggs. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: change my careers, I think based upon what you said

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Speaker 1: about that place eight fifty seven. Jank you. Joe Strecker

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Speaker 1: second