WEBVTT - Eddie & Rocky -- 1/14/26

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<v Speaker 1>All right, back with Eddie and Rocky and Rocky we're

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<v Speaker 1>heating up all over the world in this great country

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<v Speaker 1>of Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and obviously a lot going on here in America,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ice protests and all that sort of nonsense,

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<v Speaker 2>But from a global standpoint, there is a potential revolution

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<v Speaker 2>going on in Iran, and even today Iranians are on

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<v Speaker 2>the streets, you know, fighting back against the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Islamic state that's that controls the country right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's the potential for that government to get ever

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<v Speaker 2>thrown And it's kind of a mint a minute thing here,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly big news.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an associate professor of polyscience political science at U.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been with us many times, but it's been a while,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Brenda Green. Welcome back to the program.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So, doctor Green, what exactly are we looking at there?

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<v Speaker 1>The last body and this is sad to say, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the last body count I saw, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the day. It was over twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>protesters were been basically murdered by the regime over there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. I think that we don't have firm body

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<v Speaker 4>counts because it's just really hard to get information out

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<v Speaker 4>of Iran right now, but I've seen estimates ranging from

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five hundred to thirty five hundred, so we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>in the thousands, and those could be at least a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit low.

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<v Speaker 2>So Iran was i almost to say, a free state

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<v Speaker 2>until nineteen seventy nine, but that's when you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Islamics they took over, right, So they've been under that

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<v Speaker 2>rule for a long time. What has sparked this revolution?

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<v Speaker 2>Why now? Why is this the time when the Iranian

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<v Speaker 2>people are saying enough is enough?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, there have been a series of protests in Iran

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<v Speaker 4>dating back to the late nineties for a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>different reasons, but in recent times it's been the dramatic

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<v Speaker 4>economic collapse within Iran, and so these protests picked off

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<v Speaker 4>in December because the value of the Iranian currency against

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<v Speaker 4>the dollar plummeted, while at the same time they had

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<v Speaker 4>an inflation that made our recent inflation, you know, look

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<v Speaker 4>like a piper. So everybody in Iran is getting squeezed

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<v Speaker 4>very hard economically, and so that's what set it off.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's been long running dissatisfaction with the regime and

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<v Speaker 4>Iranian society, and so the movement has kind of transformed

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<v Speaker 4>from an economic protest into a broader kind of anti

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<v Speaker 4>regime movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and we're talking to doctor Brendan Green from uc And,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brendan, weren't they at some stage of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to me, maybe I'm thinking of a Rack

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<v Speaker 1>or another country, but it seems to me Iran for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit there kind of became westernized and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>women could actually, you know, be in public and wear

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<v Speaker 1>skirts and all that stuff. But am I wrong? There

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<v Speaker 1>was that Iraq or was that Iran? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just remember one of those one of those

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim countries became that way and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they're cracking down.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the broader trend is that Muslim societies in general

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<v Speaker 4>have become a lot more conservative over the past four

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<v Speaker 4>to five decades. And so you referenced the earlier ruler

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<v Speaker 4>of Iran, who was the Shah, who was the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of king right and he was very secular, and Iran

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<v Speaker 4>was very secular at the time. Ever since the revolution

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<v Speaker 4>took over, there have been kind of a series of

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<v Speaker 4>conservative versus I don't want to call them liberal, but

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<v Speaker 4>let's just say a little bit more moderate rulers that

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<v Speaker 4>alternate under the mulahs, and the more moderate rulers tend

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<v Speaker 4>to have less strictness towards some of Islamic law in

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<v Speaker 4>forcing it on people. But when the more conservative rulers

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<v Speaker 4>get in charge, they tend to crack down. And so,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think in the early two thousands, right,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a time when it was probably less strict,

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe in the early twenty ten, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>since then it's been quite strict. Indeed, and there was

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<v Speaker 4>a whole round of protests over there in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you're talking about an uprising by the people,

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<v Speaker 2>that's always a hard thing because in this case, the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian government they have the money, they have the better equipment,

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<v Speaker 2>they have the money to buy the bombs and all

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<v Speaker 2>the bullets and all that. What sort of chances does

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<v Speaker 2>do the Iranian people who are rebelling, What kind of

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<v Speaker 2>chances do they have without America jumping in full force,

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<v Speaker 2>without Israel jumping in for full force, and maybe other countries.

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<v Speaker 4>I think in the short term, very little chances. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the Iranian regime does not have a problem shooting protesters,

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<v Speaker 4>and I expect you going to continue shooting protesters until

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<v Speaker 4>the protests stop. I think that if either Iran or

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<v Speaker 4>the United States intervened, they might cause some damage to

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<v Speaker 4>things that the regime values. But unless they're willing to

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<v Speaker 4>invade with ground forces, they can't stop the regime from

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<v Speaker 4>shooting protesters. And I don't think either state is willing

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<v Speaker 4>to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you do not think that Israel is going

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<v Speaker 2>to jump in with ground forces here.

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<v Speaker 4>Not with ground forces. They might assassinate some people, they

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<v Speaker 4>might bomb military targets or stuff that they're worried about,

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<v Speaker 4>but no one. Everyone, I think has learned the lesson

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<v Speaker 4>of Iraq and Afghanistan, which is trying to dominate one

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<v Speaker 4>of these Middle Eastern countries far away in a place

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<v Speaker 4>you don't understand and don't know how to rule, is

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<v Speaker 4>just a really tough ticket, and no one wants to

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<v Speaker 4>do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to doctor Brendan Green from UC and DON.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I saw is that iranaz is

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<v Speaker 1>saying that if the United States would indeed to intervene

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<v Speaker 1>in here and probably and obviously not boots on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, selective bombing here and there, that they

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<v Speaker 1>might bomb American bases in other countries. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a possibility or is that just going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>hell fire on them?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? I think that if the United States or Israel

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<v Speaker 4>attacks Iran from the air, that Iran will certainly respond

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<v Speaker 4>against American and Israeli targets in the region. Earlier today,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a report that the United States has already

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<v Speaker 4>started to pool troops out of alu Daide Air Base

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<v Speaker 4>and Guitar, which is one of our major air bases there,

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<v Speaker 4>potentially in preparation for a strike if the President decides

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<v Speaker 4>to order it. So if you go back to the

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve Day War six months ago, right, you saw lots

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<v Speaker 4>of this, which is that the Israelis hit Iran, the

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<v Speaker 4>US hit Iran, and Iran hit back. So if the

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<v Speaker 4>United States or Israel decides to go down this route,

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely expect American targets in the region to get hit.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw State TV they broadcast a picture of Trump

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<v Speaker 2>at the Butler rally after he was shot uh and

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<v Speaker 2>put the words quote this time it won't miss, which

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<v Speaker 2>is I mean, that's an assassination threat to the president.

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<v Speaker 2>How does America respond to that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I think that there was an assassination

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<v Speaker 4>plot by the raniums that was uncovered during the election,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, And so I accept that there will be

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<v Speaker 4>consequences for Iran to this kind of behavior. I just

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that they're going to be at the level

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<v Speaker 4>of the kind of thing that could change the regime, right,

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<v Speaker 4>but but it certainly won't be costless if Iran keeps

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<v Speaker 4>doing this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of state is I state?

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<v Speaker 3>Where?

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<v Speaker 2>Where where as I ran right now with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>was it June of last year?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>The United States bomb three nuclear facilities? Is that crippled

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<v Speaker 2>them a little bit a lot? Where are we at?

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<v Speaker 4>It's very hard to tell. But what I can say

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<v Speaker 4>for sure is that no information has leaked out about

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<v Speaker 4>the Iranian program re starting, so it at least appears

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<v Speaker 4>that things have been frozen since that attack. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>really just hard to say for sure. You know, it

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<v Speaker 4>could be that the intelligence community is just keeping very

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<v Speaker 4>tight whatever information they have, But for now, most most

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<v Speaker 4>reports seem to indicate that not much is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Brennan Green from you see one last question for me,

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<v Speaker 1>rubbing your crystal ball, What do you see happening here

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<v Speaker 1>in the next I don't know, six eight, nine months,

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<v Speaker 1>do we bomb them into submission and stop the slaughter

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<v Speaker 1>of these dissidents or does that go on?

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the Iranian regime will keep shooting until

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<v Speaker 4>the protesters stopped, probably, But the bigger chance for changes

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<v Speaker 4>the Iyatola is old. There will be a leadership transition

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<v Speaker 4>at some point. The Iranian economy is posed, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>for a lot of reasons. But one of the big

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<v Speaker 4>reasons is that their foreign policy is bankrupt UH. And

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<v Speaker 4>so if they agreed to permanently disable their nuclear program

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<v Speaker 4>with monitoring, if they agreed to restrict their ballistic mythiles

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<v Speaker 4>and their you know, giving mythyls to proxies, then the

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<v Speaker 4>sanctions might get removed on the regime and things might

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<v Speaker 4>improve for the Iranian people. So I think that's the

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<v Speaker 4>optimistic scenario, you know, in the next near to medium

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<v Speaker 4>perm is that when ultimately the person at the very

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<v Speaker 4>top of the regime changes, there's at least an opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>for some kind of change that that would benefit the

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<v Speaker 4>Iranian people. But bottom line, it's very hard to change

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<v Speaker 4>a regime like this UH. And that means that they

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<v Speaker 4>tend to stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, yeah, and if you know, they get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the iotolary steps sound someone right exactly the same

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna gonna come in.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not all of a sudden to say, you know what, protesters, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we get it, We're fine, we're going to change. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a Islamic terrorist state, and they're going to put someone

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<v Speaker 2>in charge that is of the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, the whole has to be for a situation

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<v Speaker 4>like the Soviet Union, which was run by a series

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<v Speaker 4>of brutal dictators until Gorbachev got in charge. And Gorbachev

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<v Speaker 4>was no beautiful democrat, but he had a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>ideas about changing the Soviet Union, and his coming the

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<v Speaker 4>power eventually led to the fall of that regime. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think that's terribly likely though, just like you say,

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<v Speaker 4>I expect most of the people who might end up

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<v Speaker 4>in charge of Iran are going to have pretty similar

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<v Speaker 4>views to the people who are there now, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a very happy situation looking forward.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, Doctor Brendan Green, we will let you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a pleasure, sir, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>The pleasure is mine, gentlemen, Doc.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Eddie and Rocky. All right, here we go

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<v Speaker 2>on this day in history, January fourteenth, nineteen fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe they seg broke in during Willie's show

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<v Speaker 2>when this news broke in nineteen fifty four, Marilyn Monroe

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<v Speaker 2>marries Joe Dumagio. Ah, yeah, and what a wonderful I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was two hundred and seventy two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy four days it was. It's all lasted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, he was apparently really nutty. Well, and you

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<v Speaker 1>marry Look, if you're going to marry a nutty chick,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta you know you're marrying a nutty chick, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But she was beautiful. She was beautiful, and apparently she

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<v Speaker 1>was a very smart woman. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>ever read that. I've read that He's quite smart. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dunk herself down, but right for her for

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<v Speaker 1>her role. But yeah, very smart. But Demaggio was apparently

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<v Speaker 1>really jealous. Oh look, dude, you you're getting jealous.

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<v Speaker 2>Tighed you can't marry the like literally.

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<v Speaker 1>The woman that every guy the one face of the

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<v Speaker 1>planet is, that's her. Yeah, and you married her and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get jealous. Guess what's gonna happen? I never understood,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you're Joe. Imagine you like, who's she going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave you for? Like you're the most famous baseball player,

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<v Speaker 1>movie star. Good looks like where is she gonna go?

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<v Speaker 1>And if she does, go on to the next one

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<v Speaker 1>man Like I never understood that. But yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>she was a little nutty and I think a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit you know pill problem which had that going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But see the thing is, yeah, he's like he could

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<v Speaker 1>have gone OJ on her if she left him. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Yeah, I mean it's okay. Whoever was popular

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<v Speaker 1>back then. I don't know who the big guy, big

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<v Speaker 1>actor was, who was the handsome guy in the fifties?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell out carry Grant? Carry carry Grant. So she leaves

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<v Speaker 1>Joe DiMaggio for carry Grant. I would say Demaggio kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had that jealousy thing. He might have gone all OJ.

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<v Speaker 2>That could have been so yeah. So they married this

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<v Speaker 2>day January fourteen, nineteen fifty four, barely got past the

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<v Speaker 2>honeymoon phase. Monroe and Demasia were divorced October nineteen fifty four,

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<v Speaker 2>again just two hundred and seventy four days after they

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<v Speaker 2>were married. In her filing, Monroe accused her husband of

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<v Speaker 2>quote mental cruelty. She then married the playwright Arthur Miller

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty six. That marriage also ended and divorced

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty one, left Monroe in a state of

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<v Speaker 2>emotional fragility. In February nineteen sixty one, she was admitted

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<v Speaker 2>to a psychiatric clinic. It was Joe DiMaggio who shook

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<v Speaker 2>cured her release and took her to the Yankees Florida

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<v Speaker 2>Spring training camp for rest and relaxation. Rumors swirled about

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<v Speaker 2>their remarriage. They maintained a quote good friends status when

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty six year old monroad and I'm sure you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard this, when she died of a drug overdose quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote nineteen sixty two, Demagio arranged the funeral, and for

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<v Speaker 2>the next two decades until his death in nineteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 2>he sent roses several times a week to her grave

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<v Speaker 2>in La Yep, he was a smitten kitten. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>look man, it's Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Monroe. It'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like today, like you know, like Debbie Levado, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like you just like the number.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think I think Mary he's hot again.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Demie Levirus. She goes through various phases

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<v Speaker 2>of like looking like I think about it all the time, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>like almost lesbian, to like a supermodel, like back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in her hot phase again. Nice to check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two for what I think of the great beauties.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Marilyn Monroe, Sophie Iran, Jamie Mansfield, Jane Mansfield,

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<v Speaker 1>Bridgie Aboudou, Yes, Claudia card right, yeah, there, through the

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<v Speaker 1>through the ages, I don't know who. Then you get

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<v Speaker 1>on through the in the seventies, Quel Welch, Roquel Welch,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get into the seventies and eighties with

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<v Speaker 1>Susande Summers and Sarah fast Ara Faucet, and then I think,

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<v Speaker 1>who's after that? Then I go, I know, Demi Levado,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a freaking break.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you did?

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<v Speaker 2>You did skip over gw Anderson and when Sephon.

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<v Speaker 1>When Stefani Sorry, I was just trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the to that part.

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, So in a way you can understand she

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<v Speaker 2>She is the uh that you know, the nineteen fifties

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<v Speaker 2>version of Sydney Sweeney, who dim Lovado? No Monroe Monroe?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Marilynd Morroa. I've been I'm reassessing my Sydney Sweeney

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<v Speaker 1>thing she's got. I mean, obviously the body is wof

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<v Speaker 1>you think her face is mid mid, totally mid. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was looking at her the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>which I've always thought her face was, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's embrace it because I saw her a picture of her.

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<v Speaker 1>She looks like a girl you went to high school with,

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<v Speaker 1>but and you would find that buried treasure. Yeah you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, because nobody else would pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to her because of her face, and she would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, no, wearing makeup and all that, but then

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<v Speaker 1>she would get all made up and then that body

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<v Speaker 1>would come out to play and you'd be like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>suns other things would come out to plays.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Look it's not mid, but she's not like just actually

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous down gorgeous. No, absolutely, not like hands down. I

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<v Speaker 2>always thought, like Kieran Knight here nightly, she was just

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<v Speaker 2>like just Natalie Sunny, beautiful, Natalie beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Son shut it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, but yeah, women like that. But see that was

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<v Speaker 1>I I've told you the story. My girlfriend in college.

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<v Speaker 1>She was always just kind of one of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>and all my buddies, you know, she hung out with

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<v Speaker 1>us and always wearing jeans and a big flannel shirt

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. And then one day she came to

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<v Speaker 1>my buddies pool party with a bikini on, and my

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<v Speaker 1>and all my boys were going.

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<v Speaker 2>What, yeah, I see.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, guys, I keep telling you. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I told the guys. I was like, They're like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>she she's built like a guy, she's cute, but come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like I know that, I know the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's really going on under that all those sweaters.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying. And she showed up mkie.

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<v Speaker 2>And these guys are like, sun what yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 2>secretly high fived all around the pool.

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<v Speaker 1>So rock I. What do you like more than anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe?

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<v Speaker 3>Women? Oh no?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry? A world record?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Boom, you hit it. Second, guess I have the ten

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<v Speaker 1>oddest Guinness World Records that were set in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>How did this? How did I skip over this? I

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<v Speaker 2>scoured the net all day long for stories I missed

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<v Speaker 2>this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this before. The woman that broke the

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<v Speaker 1>record for the fastest hundred meters barefoot on lego bricks

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<v Speaker 1>never heard from New Zealand. She ran across six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty pounds of lego bricks spread across one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>meters in a record setting time of twenty four point

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five seconds. Now, I want to know who did

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<v Speaker 1>it first and.

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<v Speaker 2>Who decided that was shocking, shockingly fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Fastest time to clear a game of hungry, hungry hippos

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<v Speaker 1>with a team of two.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>They did it in eight point nine one seconds. This

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<v Speaker 1>it's a father's yeah, father son team And then skip

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<v Speaker 1>over cover of.

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<v Speaker 2>These Oh and this guy. I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the picture of this dude, sweetest guy. Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Struby Uh broke the record for the most matches held

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<v Speaker 1>in his nose.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it? I'm gonna I'm gonna cringe.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Throby was able to hold eighty one stick matches

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<v Speaker 1>in his nostrils at the same time, being the previous

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<v Speaker 1>record of sixty eight. So is that like forty per

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<v Speaker 1>nostril or pretty much? Looking up you'll see the dude,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got these things shoved up to his brain. Fastest

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<v Speaker 1>ten meters pushing a skateboard by a pig. Why, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for asking. It was in Grove, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. He

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<v Speaker 1>went a distance of thirty three feet and just under

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<v Speaker 1>twelve about eleven and a half seconds. Fastest one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>meters running on all fours. This happened. It doesn't say

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<v Speaker 1>where it was, but did one hundred meters in four

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<v Speaker 1>point fourteen point five to five seconds. Most golf teas

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<v Speaker 1>in the hair? Funny you should ask lady golf seas

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<v Speaker 1>where golf teas in your hair?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Like like time, what up in your hair?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>How many?

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<v Speaker 1>Inserting a seven hundred eleven teas in her hair out

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<v Speaker 1>in Carlsbad, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeez? Sis, see what is the I wonder if and

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<v Speaker 2>these are Guinness records, like official Guinness records, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they have to have some criteria to stop

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<v Speaker 2>these stupid Like it's hard to define it, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know when one is stupid in when it's actually real,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean actually impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of these are are stupid. I respect him, but

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that's a stupid?

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<v Speaker 2>How about?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know where he's from. It doesn't say

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<v Speaker 1>UH set the record for balancing spoons on his body

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<v Speaker 1>at eighty five.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see that there's some talent. That's the third

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<v Speaker 2>time he said it in the matchstick knows guy. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a second type. He set the record. Uh, and so

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<v Speaker 2>in other words, he broke it, or he said it

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<v Speaker 2>someone else broke and said, I'll be damn I backed.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to the training.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, farthest eyeball pop male category, A guy in UH.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from originally from Uruguay living in Italy, said he

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<v Speaker 1>discovered his unusual talent for relaxing his muscles around his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes when he was eight or nine and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>his signature party trick ever since. He performed the trick

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<v Speaker 1>for his doctor, who confirmed the man's eyes can pop

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<v Speaker 1>point seven four inches out of their sockets, enough to

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<v Speaker 1>earn him the world record in Guinness. So about three

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<v Speaker 1>quarters of an inch. That guy can push his eyeball

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<v Speaker 1>out of his head. No, dude, I've seen people do

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<v Speaker 1>that and it's it's freaky not.

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<v Speaker 2>Bed Now, I've not seen anybody do that. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to either.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've Cidney Sweeney walked in here with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>barely anything on. Oh guy, she has eyes. You see

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<v Speaker 1>my eyeballs pop right out of my head. They rolled

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<v Speaker 1>around on the four with that. We check him with

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<v Speaker 1>traffic and weather Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? All right? Back with Eddie and Rocky Rob

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<v Speaker 2>We got a guess, yes and big news I was

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday the day before. Mike Tomlin is quote stepping down

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>unquote after nineteen seasons, never a losing season in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>What's his next move? What's the next move of the Steelers?

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to bring on a guy we've we've talked.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a little while but since we've talked to him,

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but Adam Crowley does a great job at ninety three

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 2>to seven the fan in Pittsburgh. Adam, how are you, brother?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm great, Rocky, it's good to talk to you

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<v Speaker 3>guys again. Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely so. So what I guess was the what

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<v Speaker 2>was the reaction in Pittsburgh when that news broke that

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Tomlin had been is stepping down.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the vast majority of Steelers fans, those that

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<v Speaker 3>I've talked to, and my gosh, have we taken a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of calls go out.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, Adam, I bet you were able

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<v Speaker 2>to just kind of put your feet up on the

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<v Speaker 2>desk and just.

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<v Speaker 1>Three hours they're taking a nap, right there, Son, Just

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<v Speaker 1>open the bones.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, you said, what has it been a day

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<v Speaker 3>or two? It's been my entire life. It feels like

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been taking calls on Mike Tomlin and now

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<v Speaker 3>it's over. And I think even the most fervent Mike

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:21.439
<v Speaker 3>Tomlin backers are are admitting finally that it was time.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't mean that Mike Tomlin didn't do a good

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<v Speaker 3>job overall here. He did. It doesn't mean that he's

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<v Speaker 3>not a great football coach or an eventual Hall of

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<v Speaker 3>Fame football coach. I think he is, and he is,

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<v Speaker 3>but it just wasn't working anymore. And while many people

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 3>say that Mike Tomlin got more out of less, he's

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<v Speaker 3>also in charge of the personnel decisions. That's never been

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<v Speaker 3>publicly stated. It's not like it's next to his job title.

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 3>But he's got more power than anybody in the organization

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<v Speaker 3>not named Art Rooney the second. And as he's accrued

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 3>more power there was ulci fated. It's not all that

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 3>dissimilar from Bill Belichick, who was a great coach, but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe not the player evaluator the equivalents of his head

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 3>coaching abilities.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is well, let's talk about Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Tomlin's future here now, Adam. The big chat is that

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>he's going to go into TV, and everybody think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a natural for that. I don't see Tomlin doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, do you really? I don't know, Adam, your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that, because I never thought of him as

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<v Speaker 1>a personal guy. He always looked like a guy who

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to bite your head off anytime anybody talked to him.

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>But I thought that about Coward too, and he's really

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<v Speaker 1>good on television.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Tomlin would be even better than Coward, and

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, I think Coward's good. I think in the

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<v Speaker 3>local media we don't get the best of Mike. He

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't. He says that, let's just say for the

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 3>Jay Glazers and the rich Eyesens, the national media members

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 3>world and I get it to an extent, but he's

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot more colorful with them. He is a very

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:12.240
<v Speaker 3>funny man behind the scenes, and an entertaining guy, and

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 3>a good storyteller and He's incredibly bright and sharp and witty.

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 3>I think if he put his mind to it, he'd

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 3>be really good at television. I mean, he obviously knows

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 3>the game. That part will be the easy part. The

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 3>thing is, I don't know if he'll have the time

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 3>to put in all the efforts to be great at television,

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 3>because I think it would be a brief stay. I

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 3>think he's absolutely addicted to competition. The way he came

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 3>off the field after Tyler lut missed that field goal

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 3>for the Ravens, I just can't imagine him not wanting

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 3>to coach and feel that competitiveness every single day and

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 3>then times one hundred on Sundays. I think he'll be

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 3>in the league, probably not next year. In fact, I

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 3>bet a lot of money he wouldn't, But I think

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 3>by twenty twenty seven he's back coaching someplace else.

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, what do you ultimately think. Does he

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 2>do a year in television because any network is going

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>to pay him whatever it takes to have him on,

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 2>because again I think he'd be great, And then yeah,

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 2>just during that year, does the research on who's going

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 2>to need a coach and what's the quarterback situation and

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 2>what's the personnel situation, just does all the backwork and

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 2>uses a lot of these guys. They use their access

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>to different different franchises to be able to kind of

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>do almost a job search and kind of look under

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the hood a little bit. Is that kind of what

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 2>you imagine happening with Tomlin?

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? And I think he wants to go to a

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 3>place with a quarterback. I think he's tired. I mean,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 3>who doesn't, but he's tired of the whole Mary go

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Rounds thing. Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Mitch Drubisky, we could

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 3>name them all. It would take all day. I think

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 3>he wants to go to a place with the quarterback.

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 3>I think he thinks he can win an elite level

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 3>in this league. But you need that one element. The

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 3>tricky part is if he were to want to coach

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 3>this year, then the Steelers would be able to get compensation.

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 3>They would have to trade Tomlin to whichever franchise wanted

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 3>his services. If it's in twenty twenty seven, I've talked

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 3>to so many people about this, including Mike Floria was

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 3>on our station today from Pro Football Talk. We have

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 3>no idea what happens in twenty twenty seven because nobody

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.959
<v Speaker 3>can get their hands on a copy of the contract,

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 3>and the Steelers had an option that they could pick

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>up in May of this year. I don't know if

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 3>they could pick the option up if he resigned. Probably not,

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 3>And so are they going to have his rights then?

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 3>If not, he'd be free to go anywhere, which I

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 3>think would potentially open up a situation in Cincinnati.

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, huh with Joe Burrow, Well, I mean, any coach

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 2>looks at a play if number one thing, do they

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 2>have the quarterback? And boy, they sure have one here,

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>no doubt, depending on what what happened. Let me back

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>up a little bit at him. So, yeah, so he

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>stepped down. So talk about the semantics like, so by

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>stepping down, he's able to get paid by them? Is

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>that why he chose to do that? Why would he

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>not say, you know what, if we're going to do this,

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 2>fire me okay, and then I can go get a

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>job this this next coming year.

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 3>As I understand it, if they had fired him, they'd

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 3>have to pay him, okay. And if they'd fire him,

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 3>he would also be able to go wherever he wanted,

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 3>And that was that was never going to happen. They

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 3>were never going to cut him loose. Art Rooney, the

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 3>second Steelers team president owner, spoke today and he was

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 3>asked specifically about that extra year, that option year that

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 3>I was just talking about, and he was pretty deftined

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 3>answering the question. He said, well, I anticipated Mike was

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>going to come back in twenty twenty six, so I

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 3>don't know that he ever would have picked up the

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 3>option on Mike Tomlin. But unless Mike stepped the way,

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 3>he was going to be their coach next year for

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 3>at least one more season.

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>So this was Mike initiating. Initiated this. He's the one

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>who said I do not want to be the head

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 2>coach for the Steelers anymore.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes. And Art Runny the second today said that

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 3>he thinks this was a family decision and not a

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 3>football decision. I am cynical and I don't ever believe

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 3>anything anybody says, and I think there's probably some truth

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 3>in both realms. I mean, from a football standpoint, he

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 3>kept hitting his head on the wildcard round and from

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 3>a personal standpoint, when you do that and you got

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 3>fans chanting for your firing, and your family's probably hearing

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 3>it when they go out to dinner the supermarket. Maybe

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 3>it is just time for a fresh start, because it

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 3>could get pretty ugly around here. Things don't go well,

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 3>and for us around here, spoiled as we may be,

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 3>winning ten games and going to the playoffs every other

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 3>year isn't enough if you're not winning those playoff games.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 2>All right, So let's move in, by the way, Adam

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Crowley of a ninety three to seven the fan in Pittsburgh,

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>So let's spin it forward here. Who who's the coach

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 2>that the Steelers want? And who do you think it's

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>going to be.

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't think any of this reporting nationally for the

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 3>last three or so weeks has been by accident. I mean,

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 3>there was a ton of reports from the Glazers of

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:33.959
<v Speaker 3>the world that Mike Tomlin, hey, maybe he is considering television. Well.

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 3>At the same time, Albert Breer wrote a story, Hey,

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 3>if something did happen with Mike Tomlin, They've got their

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 3>eyes on Chris Shula, who obviously has the shool of

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>blood and he is the defensive coordinator of the Los

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Angeles Rams. I think that's the most likely guy they

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>have an mo although I mean it's it's tough to

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 3>say that because they hire a coach you know, once

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 3>a generation. But Chuck Noll thirty seven and a defensive

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 3>coordinator for the Baltimore Colts, Mike tom a defensive coordinator

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the Minnesota Vikings, and then Bill Cower is the defensive

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:15.239
<v Speaker 3>coordinator of the Cleveland Browns. I think that's ideally how

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 3>they want to play ball. They want to play defense,

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>they want to run the football, and it is no

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 3>secret around these parts. And I don't think this is

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 3>unique to Pittsburgh, but I think the Steelers organization is

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 3>enamored with the success of the Rams organization, and it

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't shock me if Shula were the higher They've already

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 3>put in a request to interview him and the passing

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 3>game coordinator there, Nate. I'm going to make this sound

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 3>so Pittsburgh easy. Nate sheiel Hass is a guy that

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 3>I think they'd be interested in as well. They're interviewing him.

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if he'd be a head coach, he's

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>a little early in his developmental curve, but perhaps his

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 3>offensive coordinator. But I bet good money on one of

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>those two guys, and then potentially Brian Flores, the Vikings

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 3>defensive coordinator. He was here not long ago as a

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 3>linebacker's coach, and people in the building loved him, though

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 3>I've heard he could rub people the wrong way if

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 3>he stays beyond the year.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, Adam, let me just tell you, we here in

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati would just give you a word of warning. Counting

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>on the Shula coaching tree. We've lived it, been there

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and done that. So anyways, just a word of warning too.

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll tell you what. I don't the family lineage thing.

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 3>It never really did it for me. It absolutely does

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 3>it for them. I mean, they've got two Haywards, they

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 3>had all the Tarrell Edmunds brothers, they've I mean, they

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.239
<v Speaker 3>just they're obsessed with lineage. They have Mark Brunner, who

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 3>is a former tight end son on the team right now,

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 3>and he plays seven snaps the game. He runs down

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 3>and tackles people on kickoffs. We all thought Tom was

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna draft his kids, so it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 3>me if they went went with some family ties. But

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 3>there's always a Kubiak out there too, so maybe they

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 3>can get one of the six Kubiaks.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 2>But I guess what I'm saying is it makes sense

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>given the Steelers history, they would want to go after

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>a defensive guy. But a lot of the popular opinion

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 2>in the media, and you tell me if it's the

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>popular opinion in Pittsburgh is it's been the offense, right,

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the offense for a while, and you know that they

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>need more of an offensive minded guy to get more

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 2>creative on offense. So what do you think. What are

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 2>the people in Pittsburgh think? Do they are they fine

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 2>with a defensive guy and Chris Schuler, or do they

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:40.720
<v Speaker 2>want more of an offensive minded head coach.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 3>People here won an offensive guy. I think the organization

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 3>wal lean defense, but the vast majority of the fan

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 3>base won an offensive guy. I'm okay with either. Or

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 3>I look at the eight teams that are left in

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 3>the divisional round, and four of the head coaches are

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 3>offensive slant. Before the coaches are of a defensive slant.

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 3>You look at the statistics and this just in. To

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 3>be playing on Divisional round weekend, you got to be

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 3>good on offense and defense. Most of these teams are

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 3>top ten or near top ten in both, So I

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 3>think there's multiple ways to get it done. I think

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 3>ideally people around here would won an offensive coach, but

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 3>if you hire the right defensive coach who hires good coordinators,

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 3>that can work too. But people are pretty sick of

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 3>watching the brand a ball we've seen here the last

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 3>five years, which more often than not, and there were

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 3>moments this year was good, but more often than not

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 3>has been three yards, a cloud of dust, and then

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 3>a punt.

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 1>All right, Adam, let me one final question from us,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>how about how did you get meat you guys feel about?

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's obvious to everyone that it was Aaron Rodgers'

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>last down in Pittsburgh and basically telling you guys to

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>go f yourself the other day and walking out of

0:35:57.960 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the press conference.

0:35:59.200 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>How did that go for?

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it. I mean he's not coming back. If

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Mike Tomlin came back, I think that door was open

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 3>because there's not a lot of good free agent quarterbacks

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 3>out there. It's still early. I mean there's pro days

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 3>and things of that. Nature of the draft class doesn't

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 3>look all that on inspiring. So I think Tomlin, if

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 3>he were the guy, he'd have wanted Rogers to come back.

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 3>And I think Rogers, if he played, would have been

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 3>amenable to coming back. There's no chance that happens now.

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Rogers loved Tomlin. Tomlin loved Rogers, and with no Tomlin,

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 3>there shall be no Rogers. And I'm kind of bumped because,

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 3>my god, that I love covering the guy.

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 2>How fun was that? I mean every day was an adventure?

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Right? It really was the best possible scenario for Steelers fans,

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 3>myself included this year, because they wound up going to

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs. They beat the Ravens twice. Mike Tomlin left,

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 3>but it's not messy because he didn't get fired and

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 3>he could go on and be happy. We could be

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 3>happy in Rogers roller coaster. Man, it's a it's a blast.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 3>And I cannot wait for like, from what's it gonna

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 3>be like three weeks probably or something like that from

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>now for him to get on the Pat mac off

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 3>his show and he's gonna do his tell all and

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna hear all this stuff. That's exactly right. I

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 3>cannot wait.

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the best. Well, Adam, you're the best man. We

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>really appreciated great having you back on and happy to

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>come on and talk some Bengals on your show one day,

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 2>But thank you for coming on and shorting this allf man,

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 2>We really appreciate it.

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 3>I would love it, buddy, appreciate it. Guys. You have

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 3>a great day.

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Thanks keep Sam.

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't even imagine covering that Aaron Rodgers fan,

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:48.240
<v Speaker 1>that's right there. That's a trip. I'm sure suffering largely.

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder what the latest. You know, there's always

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 2>like some controverse here, some you know, first world problem

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>thing went on a while ago. It was, you know,

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 2>they had like a frozen custard dispenser and it was

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 2>like strawberry vanilla and chocolate. But when you wanted chocolate,

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 2>sometimes there would be a little just a smidgen of

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 2>strawberry leftover, and people were just losing their minds. What

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 2>are we? What the hell are we? I am I

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 2>do not have to put up with a little bit

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 2>of strawberry ice cream on top of my chocolate.

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, where am I an animal? Where he lives? I

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>can't even imagine the bitch the quality and the amount

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>of bitchiness that goes on. Because we have a timeshare

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>in Sarasota. Yeah, it's just like where Willie lives, trust me.

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh and just some of the stuff that people complain about,

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, we did found some uh find some mouse

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:50.280
<v Speaker 1>droppings in our condo. Well guess what, they've been tearing

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>down buildings all around this place. We guess where they're

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:58.240
<v Speaker 1>going to come to the standing building that's right next door,

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>right like we're doing. They we can we come in

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.919
<v Speaker 1>and we spray all the time. Okay, cool, No, it's

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>not like there was a little doll up of strawberry

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>frozen yogurt in my chocolate telling you just you know,

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>just the first world problems. Yeah, we'll deal with him

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 1>shortly now, rock beck In Beck In our younger days,

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>my younger days and and yours as well, I know

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>used to do you would somebody would say, hey, have

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>a shot or do this right? You just I I

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>was down in Florida, and I know it was a

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>thing here too, But I remember being down in Florida

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>one time, and it was Bubba the Love Sponge.

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>You remember Bubba. I remember. I feel like that guy

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 2>was like like a comet, Like he just came about

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and was like the biggest thing ever and then kind

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 2>of poof gone.

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>He was here for a little bit, but he was

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>really big in Florida for a while.

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>So I got to know Bubba a little bit, and

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I was down there for a station thing.

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Now, was he gone in like the afternoon on EBN

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 2>or something and you were in the morning.

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 1>He was in the evening. He was like seven to

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>midnight or something.

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Redneck Monday and yeah, yeah, no parents Thursday correct, Yeah, yeah,

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's good to see you. Didn't listen much, but

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 2>he uh, you know, that was his home, his home base,

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and so he was doing an appearance at a bar.

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 2>So the Dolphin and I were down there, remember Finn

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and Finn and I went out and saw him, and

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's showing us just first class street, but

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 2>you guys come in, you know, da da da, this

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and that and the other. Put us behind the velvet rope,

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>which was basically like being at Hooters, but we had

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>our own booth and and so he's like, you guys

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 2>got to try the this first time I'd seen it,

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>but like I said, I had seen I saw him

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>in town here afterwards. But flaming doctor Peppers? Did you

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.399
<v Speaker 2>ever drink that I have had one of those?

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Dude?

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Is that hold on?

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Is that?

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Is that one lit on fire and dropped into a yeah,

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 2>root beer something?

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I forget, I forget exactly what it is, but yeah,

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>there's uh, there's fire involved, and and I drank a

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.399
<v Speaker 1>couple of those, and I don't remember much the rest

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of the night, but it was kind of intense.

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, flaming shot of amaretto and overproof rum into a

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 2>glass of beer, extinguishing the flame, creating a sweet root

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 2>beer like taste. So I was I was on the

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 2>right track, right, yeah, yeah, so yeah. It was one

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty one, which is flammable obviously, and lo ameretto bloom

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 2>dropping in the beer.

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Go I've had it, Okay, Well, let's do it here

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>in Russia, it's a go figure. Thirty eight year old

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>guy named doesn't have his last name, named SERGEI, was

0:41:54.719 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 1>taking part in a Christmas party at a place there

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>called the Game of Tables Cooking Studio in Moscow. I

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>guess it was a company rented this place out or something.

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>He was rushed to surgery after drinking a cocktail that

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>ruptured his stomach. And this guy's this guy is still

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.040
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital by the way. We listen to this.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Then the drink he had not a flaming doctor pepper,

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it was a liquid nitrogen infused drink that

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>was part of their Cairo show that the chefs were

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>showing off and you know liquid nitrogen. Yeah, that's what

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 1>they were. Yeah, kind of cold. They used the blah

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and it provides dramatic effect and stuff. In

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>case you've never seen this stuff, it's very intense. So

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it expands into a gas and as it gets to

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>room temperature and you see all the smoke and all

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that rigmarole. Well this dude just goes, oh, I'm good,

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>picks it up and throws it down with the liquid

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>nitrogen before it had dissolved into his stomach.

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:10.919
<v Speaker 2>God, that's rough.

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And witnesses there claimed that they were given no

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>warnings by the shift that the cocktail was dangerous. Guess

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>what if somebody says that's really there is something damaging

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>in there, don't drink it, And I'm like, oh, wi

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>should be I'm cool. All right, back with that idian, Rocky.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>It is Wednesday round about this time, rock and that

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>means it is time for a Wednesday with Willy being

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Joseph Chevrolet.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and well, we wanted to hit you with this.

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've heard about the double homicide in Columbus, Monica.

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Teppe thirty nine, Spencer Teppee thirty seven last week, and

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.879
<v Speaker 2>we'd actually talked to Tanya about it, and not much

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 2>about the case had been broken. But I guess now

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the brother or no, the former husband is the one

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 2>that's a suspect in this. So I was just wondering,

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, in your illustrious past legal career, you ever

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:18.720
<v Speaker 2>a part of any high profile cases or sinister type

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>cases similar to Nation one.

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 6>Yes, Manie Well Well, when this broke, I spoke to

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 6>a dentist friend of mine, and the dental community at

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 6>that level was somewhat limited a number, and I was

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 6>told that the police early on was looking at a

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 6>former lover, not necessarily a husband of the wife as

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 6>the likely party because of some information. And so when

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 6>the former husband slash lover was arrested, it wasn't much

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 6>of a shock to the dental community. But what it

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 6>said is is that this couple, she quickly divorced him.

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 6>They were married only for like a year eighteen months,

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 6>and it was kind of a nasty divorce. He did

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 6>not want to let her go. And then in his mind,

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 6>which I don't know if it's true or not, that

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 6>in the divorce guy's mind, she was shall we say,

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.800
<v Speaker 6>less than faithful to her to him during the marriage,

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 6>which may be a lie, but that's what he believed.

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 6>The killer believed that somehow this other guy was in

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 6>the picture before he was out of the picture. And

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 6>I have no information other than rumor and hearsay and

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.839
<v Speaker 6>indicate that's accurate or not. But whenever someone like that

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 6>is killed, the first people you look at are former husbands,

0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 6>it's former lovers, it's someone in the circle of friends.

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 6>Anonymous killings happened, but they're extremely rare. So the police

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 6>in Columbus quickly, according to when they talked to family

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 6>members and friends of the wife, said, take a look

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 6>at that guy right there, he's the guy.

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>And so in.

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 6>Today's world, because of the cell phones and because of

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 6>things like that the ping, they could put him in

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 6>pretty close contact if assuming he didn't his phone on,

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 6>and from that developed the case. And uh, I think

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:06.879
<v Speaker 6>it's it's a whrror, but but it's a good thing

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 6>he didn't. He didn't kill the offspring, the one in

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 6>the three year old or four year old made it

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 6>through this, and it's awful, it's terrible, And these are

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 6>the reasons you need a death penalty and torture before death.

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 6>This guy that did that to that family needs to

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 6>spend at least to the rest of his life in

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 6>prison beating sheriff burgers and at a minimum, at a maximum,

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 6>he should be upside down, hung and beaten and and

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 6>then killed.

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Because that that's awful.

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 6>That's that's that's unbelievable.

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, Willie on the flip side of the coin, and

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 1>we were also talking about what's the the guy naming

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the New York Mangeoniah, do you okay you're in charge

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of defending that guy or this guy? How do you

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>approach that from knowing? I mean, there's there legit is

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.879
<v Speaker 1>video of that guy shooting the guy in New York

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and this guy he's placed at the scene, his cars there,

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>his car was there, then his car was gone after

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the crime. How do you, as a defense attorney defend

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 1>something like that?

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 6>So different cases. Luigi has thousands of supporters who have

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 6>raised him millions of dollars who believe it was a

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 6>justified homicide. Now, you might not be able to sell

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 6>that to a jury in Warren County or in Boon County,

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 6>but you might be able to have one recoucildron juror

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 6>in New York City say, you know what, I've had

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 6>some medical bills that weren't paid, and I've had circumstances

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 6>and with insurance companies did not allow me to have

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 6>a procedure that cost me my life or cost me

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 6>my limbs. And so they're hoping for one or two

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 6>recoucitrant jurors that are going to say, we're not going

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.799
<v Speaker 6>to convict him of aggravated murder first to re murder

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 6>in New York, We're not going to do that. And

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 6>that's what you're hoping for. Plus temporary insanity, that is

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 6>that he was driven crazy by the back problems Luigi

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 6>was having. He sought treatment and care for it in

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 6>Owaii in other places. He was a traveling man and

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 6>he kept having these medical difficulties and couldn't get the

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 6>insurance companies. I'm not sure as the one that the

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.840
<v Speaker 6>decedent was a CEO of, but nonetheless he had angst

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 6>against the insurance company and he hit other people on

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 6>the list he was going to kill. It wasn't just

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:23.719
<v Speaker 6>that CEO United, He had other CEOs he was looking for,

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 6>much like a chapman trying to who killed John Lennon

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 6>had other names on.

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 2>The list to kill.

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 6>And so so in that case, you say, look, we

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.839
<v Speaker 6>admit he did it, but it was justified. Now in

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 6>this case, I don't think there's hundreds of people going

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 6>to raise money for this murderer and going to march

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 6>around the courthouse hoping this guy set free. And so

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 6>in that case, again you're looking for temporary insanity, which is,

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 6>assuming they have factually that he actually did it, you'd

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 6>have to go into some insanity defense, which rarely works

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 6>because assuming the murderer and the dentist and co Columbus

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 6>got into a car, mental acuity to start the car,

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 6>he followed traffic violations or not had stop signs, his

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 6>mind worked, he stopped, he saw the red light, he stopped,

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 6>he saw a green light, he went. And if he

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.879
<v Speaker 6>had a gun, there's an operational aspect to that. Did

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:15.719
<v Speaker 6>he operate the gun? What is his mind connecting with reality?

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 6>The answer was yes, he connected with reality up until

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 6>the point he claims when he killed two innocent people

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:26.919
<v Speaker 6>in that home. And so that's why insanity. And I've

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 6>had fifteen or twenty insanity defenses, and I had one

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 6>that worked out of fifteen or eighteen, and her name

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 6>was Dorothy Shirley Andrews. And because she I won't say

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.160
<v Speaker 6>what she did to her baby, but it was so

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.480
<v Speaker 6>out of whack that the juror said, she's not guilty

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 6>by reason of insanity. And that doesn't mean you're free.

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 6>It means you go to a mental hospital until you're

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 6>restored to sanity, which may never happen. Now, others stays

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.400
<v Speaker 6>like Kentucky is guilty but insane, which is factually the

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 6>committed the offense. But then we're going to treat them

0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 6>for the mental illness. And once they have sucessfully in

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 6>sured a so called mental illness, then you go to prison.

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 6>Ohio doesn't have that. Ohio's MGRI owt to be updated.

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 6>But in Ohio, if you're classically found not guilty by

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 6>reason of insanity, you could be locked up for one

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 6>year or fifty years, depending upon how long it takes

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:19.399
<v Speaker 6>to restore your mind to sanity. And so the two

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 6>cases are fundamentally different. And Luigi has supporters the murder

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 6>and Columbus I would assume has no supporter.

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I would assume that as well. Now, because we talked

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 1>to somebody not too long ago Rock who was talking

0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>about the insanity defense and will to your point, you

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>really have to be so far out there that people

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>can look at you and go, Okay, that person is

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>nuts because a lot of it because you always hear like, oh,

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>he's going to plead insanity. Well, I mean it's not

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>as easy as that sounds.

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, to your.

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 6>Point, under the McNaughton rule and other rules, you have

0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:00.319
<v Speaker 6>to show that the person was incapable the conforming ishavior

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 6>to the dictates of the law, did not know the

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.760
<v Speaker 6>difference between right and wrong. For example, if you shoot

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 6>someone believing them to be a coke machine and you

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 6>want to get a sprite, and somehow you shoot that

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 6>person thinking they are you can get a root beer

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:15.919
<v Speaker 6>out of the machine and the person as a human

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 6>being not a piece of metal. Those are the cases

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 6>that might succeed. But even then, normally a person at

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 6>before the moment of the killing takes place, you have

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:27.879
<v Speaker 6>conformed your behavior, did the dictates of law all day,

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 6>You've done all these things in which your mind was

0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 6>connected to reality, and all of a sudden you claim

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 6>you had a snap. Those things hardly ever work, I

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 6>think in Hamley County's history, there's less than three ngris

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 6>because jurors don't buy it, and prosecutors can demonstrate this

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 6>guy did conform his behavior to the law by doing

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:52.320
<v Speaker 6>all these ten twelve things ahead of time that indicated

0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:54.760
<v Speaker 6>he knew reality, and all of a sudden he snapped

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:57.400
<v Speaker 6>and didn't know reality, and then he escaped, and the

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:01.439
<v Speaker 6>murder in Columbus, after the murders were committed, he did

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 6>things to secrete himself. His mind was in contact with reality,

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 6>he knew what he had done, and then spent time.

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 1>To get away.

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 6>Those are the acts of a sane person, and so

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 6>that's even more difficult. And so his best opportunity is

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:19.840
<v Speaker 6>to plee out and maybe get life without possibility of parole,

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 6>or maybe parole after thirty.

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Or forty years. So, not to go on a tangent,

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 2>but you were talking about Ohio and the death penalty.

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you know when and who the last person killed

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 2>in Ohio by the death penalty was.

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 6>Well, it's been a long time. Mike DeWine honestly does

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:41.040
<v Speaker 6>not believe in the death penalty. He says he believes

0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 6>in the death penalty, but he doesn't. So that's eight

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 6>years and before that there was a we had an

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:51.359
<v Speaker 6>eight year run taft. I don't think executing anybody before him.

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't think the Democrat executed in anybody. And before him,

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:58.439
<v Speaker 6>John Kasik didn't ext you, I would I according to.

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 2>This, it's Robert van hook and twenty eighteen and this

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:05.359
<v Speaker 2>was under Kasic Casi. So it's been eight years. Yeah,

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 2>it's uh, you know.

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 6>And Joe Dieter says that that if just tell me

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:11.359
<v Speaker 6>whether we have one or not. If we don't have one,

0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 6>that's okay. And I've often said that the application of

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:20.319
<v Speaker 6>the death penalty is so sporadic that why haven't And

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 6>I often say that life without possibility of parole and

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 6>an eight by six foot concrete cell might be worth

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 6>than than lying on a gurney and not waking up,

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 6>and I and it's much less expensive. And so yeah,

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 6>I guess we have a death penalty. But as a

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:39.360
<v Speaker 6>conservative libertarian, it wouldn't bother me one bit if the

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 6>if the legislator said, let's just not deal with that anymore,

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:46.480
<v Speaker 6>and let's just you know, let's have life without possibility

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:46.840
<v Speaker 6>of parole.

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Explain that process though, of how it just keeps getting

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:54.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, appealed and appealed and appealed, like, because that's

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:57.360
<v Speaker 2>what jobs to your point, if we're gonna have it, okay,

0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>let's use it. If we're not, then okay, we'll see good.

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:03.799
<v Speaker 2>The other the next most extreme measure of punishment, which

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 2>is needed in a society in my opinion. So how

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 2>do things like that keep getting appealed infinitely? It seems like, well,

0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:11.879
<v Speaker 2>it takes long.

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.840
<v Speaker 6>At the trial stage. You have to have qualified jurors

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 6>that are willing to apply the death penalty. It takes

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 6>a long time to have a jury to be sworn in.

0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 6>That takes months and months and months. There's only a

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 6>few pre qualified attorneys in Ohio. James Bogan is pre

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 6>qualified to handle death penalty cases. Most criminal defense lawyers

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 6>don't want to be qualified to handle death penalty cases.

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 6>It takes so long, very rarely as the defendant person

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 6>of means, which means the state is paying you not

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 6>enough money to represent them, and you put that along

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 6>with them. If there is a conviction, there's all kinds

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 6>of post conviction remedies before sentencing. Then one sentencing takes place,

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:51.319
<v Speaker 6>the judge can say no, and many judges don't want

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:53.399
<v Speaker 6>to impose the death penalty. The judge can say, well,

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to accept the recommendation, and then the

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 6>appellate process starts. It goes to the first district Court

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 6>of Appeals, which takes two to three years. Then it

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 6>goes high a Supreme Court that takes three to four years.

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 6>Then there's newly discovered evidence, much like in the Blue

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 6>Ash Hotel case, which wasn't newly discovered evidence, but then

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 6>there's new evidence discovered. Then you go back to the

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 6>original trial court to say we have new evidence, who

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 6>want a new trial? Then you have hearings on that,

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 6>and then once the state remedies have exhausted, then you

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 6>jump over to the federal system. You begin at the

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 6>federal district turn back over, then you start over, and

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 6>then you go to the Court of Appeals circuit. Then

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:30.400
<v Speaker 6>you go to the US Supreme Court. Then you have

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 6>newly discovered evidence.

0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Why why are there all these steps and why do

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 2>they take months and sometimes years in between.

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Eight years you hear what these guys being on this

0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>death row for fifteen to twenty years or some such Well.

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:47.879
<v Speaker 6>It's because the system is filled with individuals who do

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 6>not believe, who are lawyers and judges, federal judges especially.

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.840
<v Speaker 6>There was a federal judge named Rice who sat in

0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 6>Cincinnati who took every death penalty case and put it

0:55:57.760 --> 0:55:59.640
<v Speaker 6>in a file cabinet and didn't even open it up

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 6>for you. He was considering what to do. And so

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 6>if the system is filled with judges who don't believe

0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 6>in the death penalty, they look for every conceivable reason.

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Not to have it imposed.

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 6>That every time you have newly discovered evidence, you start

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 6>all over again at the trial court and you work

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 6>a way back up through the system, which you can

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 6>take ten to twelve to fifteen years, and it never ends.

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 6>And then you got newly discovered evidence, then you have

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 6>a witness whose testimony was impeached, and start all over again,

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.319
<v Speaker 6>and you go back to the beginning. And so you

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 6>can have people on death row for twenty five or

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 6>thirty years. And then you have governors who say, you

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:33.879
<v Speaker 6>know what, I believe in the death penalty because it's

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 6>good politically and sometimes, but I just don't want to

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 6>do it. I'm not going to sign a death warrant.

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't think Mike DeWine would ever sign a death

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:43.319
<v Speaker 6>war and I think case he signed one or two,

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 6>and I've asked for Bake Ramaswami. He's likely the next governor.

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 6>He says he's going to look at it, which tells me, okay,

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 6>you're going to look at it. What does that mean?

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So at the end of the day, if.

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 6>You had life without possibility of parole, you get rid

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.359
<v Speaker 6>of a lot of that stuff completely. It's a lot

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 6>less expense, and said a lot let's wear and tear

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:03.799
<v Speaker 6>on the legal system and the person is locked in

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 6>a cement cell for the rest of their life. Anyway

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.240
<v Speaker 6>to me, that's one hell of a punishment.

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 1>With that counselor the the defense rests.

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 6>Eight point two million dollars to criminal protesters, one point

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 6>four million dollars to Quadavior Hicks, and then Ryan Hitt's

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:22.920
<v Speaker 6>going to get millions of dollars.

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I saw that.

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm all fart up about you know, now, City Council,

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 6>it's not their money, it's our money. They're giving more

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 6>than ten million dollars to criminals. Now they want to

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:32.080
<v Speaker 6>increase the income tax rate.

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 2>What about that?

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Willie will talk about that another day, but right now

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>we have to let you go.

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 2>You got me all fired up.

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you.

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 1>There he is done in Florida. He'll be down there

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 1>walking on the beach looking for seashells, being all pissed off.

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 2>And I'm looking for someone to talk about that. I'm

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 2>sure you saw that news. That'll be like, you know,

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the family of Ryan Hinton who shot and killed a

0:57:57.760 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 2>police officer, you know, is possibly going to get a

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:03.840
<v Speaker 2>a payout.

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe we can hit that up tomorrow.

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:06.600
<v Speaker 2>That'd be good.

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But right now we got traffic and weather.

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 2>What is going on?

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:13.200
<v Speaker 4>All?

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Back with Eddie and Rocky, And before we get out

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of here, we like to talk to our friends at

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>ABC News and Rock. This uh, this case will never

0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.800
<v Speaker 1>not fascinate me because Rock and I were talking about

0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>this off the air, and I'm like, I'm convinced this

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 1>guy he's not gonna wiggle out of it. He's not

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna wiggle his way out of it, but he's gonna

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>somehow wiggle himself into the lesson the least thing he

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 1>can possibly be a whatever indeted charge.

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:47.959
<v Speaker 2>Orge Luigi Mangioni, the guy who shot the insurance guy

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 2>and was harold, is a hero by many people that

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I think are kind of nuts. But yes, his hearing

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 2>is going on right now, and Sasha, you have the

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 2>latest on this. What is it?

0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's exactly right. That key piece of evidence that

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 5>we've all been talking about now at the center of

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 5>another high stakes hearing as lawyers for the accused killer

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:12.800
<v Speaker 5>of United Healthcare CEO fight to keep his backpack out

0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 5>of court. We remember when Luigi Mangioni was tracked down

0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 5>at that McDonald's in Altuna, Pennsylvania last year. Police found

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 5>him with a backpack and inside it what prosecutors say

0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 5>was unambiguous evidence of his motive, including the alleged murder

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:31.760
<v Speaker 5>weapon and a red spiral notebook that prosecutors say Manzoni

0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 5>used as a diary. It had writings discussing what they

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 5>say was the plan he was concocting. That quote the

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:42.880
<v Speaker 5>target was insurance. It checks every box. Now, Manjoni's lawyers

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 5>say police is seizure of that backpack and it's an

0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 5>initial warrantless search at that McDonald's made it illegal, and

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 5>they're trying to prevent prosecutors from using it as evidence

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 5>in both his state and his federal cases.

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 1>So we'll have to say, sa Peesnik from ABC News

0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 1>is our guest, And so what's the logic or the

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:07.040
<v Speaker 1>case they're trying to make to keep this backpack out

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:09.840
<v Speaker 1>of being used as evidence.

1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:14.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so defense attorneys say that the lack of a

1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:16.640
<v Speaker 5>warrant there at the McDonald's it made the surge and

1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:20.680
<v Speaker 5>thethesure of the backpack illegal, and they're trying to keep

1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:22.720
<v Speaker 5>it out. They're trying to keep the backpack and what

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:26.160
<v Speaker 5>was in it out of court. If they can take

1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:30.480
<v Speaker 5>that potentially critical evidence out of either his state or

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:34.480
<v Speaker 5>his federal case, or both, then that they hope could

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:37.200
<v Speaker 5>knock a lot of the wind out of prosecutors sales.

1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 5>They also argued officers were too late mirandizing Mangioni. That's

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:42.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, telling him he has the right to remain silent,

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:45.600
<v Speaker 5>et cetera, and continue to popper him with questions after

1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:48.880
<v Speaker 5>he already said he preferred to remain silent, as is

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:52.320
<v Speaker 5>his right. So now the judge in his federal case

1:00:52.440 --> 1:00:55.080
<v Speaker 5>is going to give both sides to argue the issue

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:58.080
<v Speaker 5>out in court next week, and we'll have to see

1:00:58.120 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 5>what the decision ultimately will be.

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:04.720
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that a technicality could possibly mess up this

1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:07.840
<v Speaker 2>this whole case here. But but I guess my question,

1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Sash would be, what are the police supposed to do?

1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're trying to find this guy. He just

1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:17.000
<v Speaker 2>shot somebody. I imagine there's a process of you're trying

1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:19.760
<v Speaker 2>to wrest someone because you're you know, you're fearful they

1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:23.560
<v Speaker 2>may do something else. Again, So what is the line

1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:28.920
<v Speaker 2>between a police officer, you know, apprehended a guy and

1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and his whatever he is, his belongings, and but been

1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:35.120
<v Speaker 2>going by the book and making sure you have evidence

1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and a warrant and all that sort.

1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's exactly right. And and and police and prosecutors

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<v Speaker 5>have defended the search and seizure as completely lawful. We remember,

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<v Speaker 5>folks there at that McDonald's saw this guy sitting there

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<v Speaker 5>and thought they might recognize him based on his his

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<v Speaker 5>bushy eyebrows. Remember that the suspect and images from surveillance

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<v Speaker 5>footage at the time were splashed all over the news,

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<v Speaker 5>and so they called it in. And and so when

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<v Speaker 5>police are trying to catch somebody who's on the run

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<v Speaker 5>for an allegedly violent crime, they want to make sure

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<v Speaker 5>that there's no further threat to the public. And so

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<v Speaker 5>they have defended removing the backpack from the immediate at

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<v Speaker 5>least arm's length of Mangoni at the time, and we

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<v Speaker 5>know that from bodycam footage, the folks there, the police

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<v Speaker 5>they are unseen, wanted to make sure that, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>there wasn't a bomb or anything else in the backpack.

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<v Speaker 5>We know that they seized from the backpack that the

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<v Speaker 5>alleged murder weapon, and that was a part of the

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<v Speaker 5>point there. And they also say that a later a

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<v Speaker 5>completely legal and lawful warrant what was something that enabled

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<v Speaker 5>them to further search the backpack. But all of this

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<v Speaker 5>is going to be litigated next week in court. And

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<v Speaker 5>we also know that Al Tuni police officers not necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>the ones who were there arresting Luigi on site, but

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to have local officers there to testify to

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<v Speaker 5>what their procedures are, what they had in place as

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<v Speaker 5>far as policy when they searched the backpacks content.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's when I was wondering, and we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Sasha Pesnik from ABC News, And one last thing,

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<v Speaker 1>as Sasha, did he give himself up and just say

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer not to talk Fifth Amendment and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember how all that went.

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<v Speaker 5>He initially prosecutors say, presented a fake ID when they

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<v Speaker 5>further searched, Yeah, yeah, they searched the backpack. They ultimately

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<v Speaker 5>arrested him there, read him his rights, and took him

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<v Speaker 5>into custody. There's not much you can do from there.

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<v Speaker 5>He did not surrender himself in so far as walking

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<v Speaker 5>up to the police station and saying, hey, I hear

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<v Speaker 5>you're looking for me. And again, you know, innocent until

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<v Speaker 5>proven guilty, right yeah, yeah, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well that Sasha, we will let you go. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, you bet, you bet, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care of.

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<v Speaker 1>Sasha Pesnik from ABC. And you watch and see, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy's going to get himself a good attorney, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna he's gonna wiggle. Like I said, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wiggle himself the least possible since he can get and

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<v Speaker 1>he shot that man.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't say that it's old blood video right again a

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<v Speaker 2>technicality and having the money to have a good lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly I mean, does he have money? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>is that the deal? Or I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he does. Doesn't he come from a rich family.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that part.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember party either, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, nuts is nuts yep, alrighty, then rock in other news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you've heard of the Only Fans, right. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get into these things, but for show research purposes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I have to do the dirty work here.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently there's this girl named Sophie Rain and she

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<v Speaker 2>is like the most popular girl on Only Fans last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Rain claims she has made ninety five million dollars from

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<v Speaker 2>some descriptions over the past two years. Now, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, man? Who who again? What was she doing?

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<v Speaker 2>And she I think she claims she doesn't even do

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<v Speaker 2>like like really nude stuff. I don't know. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm telling you. When I die ed, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be reincarnated as a very hot female because

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<v Speaker 2>they got the world by you know What's so anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>But but this isn't even the story. Okay, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>Florida gubernatorial candidate, right, there's you know, a governor's race

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<v Speaker 2>score on there. Desanta scan't run anymore. Sure, So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a candidate, Republican candidate named James Fishback, who is proposing

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<v Speaker 2>a fifty quote sin tax on OnlyFans models. As governor

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<v Speaker 2>in year one, I would push for the first of

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<v Speaker 2>its kind OnlyFans sin tax. If you are a so

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<v Speaker 2>called OnlyFans creator in Florida, you are going to pay

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent to the state on whatever you so called

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<v Speaker 2>earned via the online degeneracy platform. We will raise hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of millions of dollars of income on the only Fans

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<v Speaker 2>sin tax. Okay, So then she gets back on this

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, of course just lashes out. And

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<v Speaker 2>never in my life I think I would wake up

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<v Speaker 2>and see a Florida politician trying to start beef with

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<v Speaker 2>me for clout. So he's proposing a sin tax on

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<v Speaker 2>on bops, which is what they are referred to in

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<v Speaker 2>the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard what oh no, what does that mean? Though

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<v Speaker 1>that's there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just like us, no what bops? Bops? No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a slang term for like a chick that

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<v Speaker 2>does oh you know that does online content in the

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<v Speaker 2>nude right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I always, I just I just thought it was porn.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's fine, well more or less when you would

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay a fifty percent tax to the state

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<v Speaker 2>on top of thirty seven I already pay to the

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<v Speaker 2>government and guests who just I don't know, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, it goes back and forth, back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh again, this guy doesn't have any shot. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Byron Daniels is gonna win that. But nevertheless, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the proposition.

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<v Speaker 1>And Miss Rain, well, you got to come out for

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're the you know, there is an established

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<v Speaker 1>front runner and you're trying to catch up, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with the new ideas, right and.

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<v Speaker 2>And this guy's you know, Barry, he needs something to

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<v Speaker 2>get his name I had never heard of. Again, what's

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<v Speaker 2>his name?

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<v Speaker 3>Again?

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<v Speaker 4>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>What's her name?

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<v Speaker 1>More importantly, Sophie Rain and Sophie what like Rain like

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<v Speaker 1>the King or Rain Rain like the Drops? Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>James Fishback. So now people know James fish Back. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>worried worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You should research me, not because you want to, because

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<v Speaker 2>Rain for the show. You should research Miss Rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, see that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get at all. I've told my wife. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, look, she was like, I'm I'm I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be sixty years old next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, perfect, Yeah, there's a market.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand? But that is a home run for

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<v Speaker 1>some guys. Get out there, girl, sell it like nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to see me. But I guarantee you there's a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of guys who would want to see you. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to show your face or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Former news chick, I mean, yeah, has name.

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<v Speaker 1>Just show show your feet or your knees or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>people are into these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Go down that road home. Report back on that, please.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dying to know the weirdness of that. I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife has ugly feet, man, really, lord, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been a foot guy, No, me neither, but yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>ain't pretty, kind of gnarly. Yeah, well, she in doing

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<v Speaker 1>the news all though she was always wearing high heels.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I had an ex who she always wore high heels

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<v Speaker 1>and her foot were feet were all kinds of gnarled up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been wearing gym shoes my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>My feet ain't pretty, but they don't look like that.

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<v Speaker 2>How did that become popular for well, I mean throughout history, like,

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<v Speaker 2>pointy feet have been a thing. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's terrible on your feet. Terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, dude, back in the you know, in my seventies

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<v Speaker 1>disco days, you know, we had those Elton John stacked

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<v Speaker 1>heeled things. That's what that was, the high thing platform heels.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that worked for me because you know I'm five

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<v Speaker 1>six on a good day, so me wearing two inch heels, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that would that would work going in there and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up a chick. But you know I had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my one buddies Like he's as tall as

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<v Speaker 1>you are, maybe even taller. He's like six six four

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<v Speaker 1>six five, and uh, you know I was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>let go of that. Now you're you know, you look

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<v Speaker 1>like wil Chamberlain. Yeah, you know, no girl wants to

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<v Speaker 1>even look at you. You look like, you know, something

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<v Speaker 1>out of a Jack and the beanstock.

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<v Speaker 2>Let it go, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, well I'm going to investigate what's her name again?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here here's a you know, a picture right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see just right quick, just a quick sample size.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a very modest that's you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that's got Rocky written all over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, well during the break you can look at

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<v Speaker 2>it more.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, cool and let me uh, I'll do a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive if you know what I mean. Uh, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's during traffic and weather.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on