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Speaker 1: Nine to Noon There comes to the scribe. Ben Gesling

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Speaker 1: covers the Minnesota vikings for the Star Tribune Star Tribune

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Speaker 1: dot com at Ben Gusling via x please follow if

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Speaker 1: you're so inclined as nine to Noon does. And he's

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Speaker 1: with us in studio. What did you do for your birthday? Yesterday?

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Speaker 1: And good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: It's become a, I guess an annual tradition that I

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Speaker 2: cover a Kevin O'Connell press conference on my birthday because

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Speaker 2: the playoff game last year would have been on my

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Speaker 2: birthday out in Arizona, and then this year they had

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Speaker 2: the season ending pressure yesterday Kevin O'Connell Quasido Flamensa at

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Speaker 2: the TCO Performance Center. So covered that, wrote about the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: and did a podcast in the afternoon, so you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of a actually kind of a busy workday. But

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Speaker 2: then I went out with my family. We had not

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Speaker 2: been to Mancini and years. Yeah, so oh ge check

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Speaker 2: sat out. My kids have never been there. They'd had

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Speaker 2: like the garlic toast at the State Fra. But it

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Speaker 2: was fun, I mean it was I had not done

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Speaker 2: the Mancinis thing.

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Speaker 1: For a number of years. Yeah, we had a great time.

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Speaker 1: Do you know Johnny or Patrick Mancini. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I met them personally. No, fantastic guys.

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Speaker 1: I've known him for multiple decades. And and the you

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Speaker 1: talk about the bread, I mean, obviously the steak and

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Speaker 1: the lobster are fantastic, fairly pretty fairly priced too, yeah

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Speaker 1: for sure, but the the like the pickles and the

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Speaker 1: peppers and everything they bring as kind of an appetizer

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Speaker 1: before smashing it with the bread.

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Speaker 2: Holy, it's underrated, but as fantastic it is. And it's

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Speaker 2: one of those things where like they I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: got kind of that old school supper club field. They

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Speaker 2: make sure that you are well fed between like the

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Speaker 2: relistray of the bread there it is a salads the

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Speaker 2: entree obviously, and then they did we said that was

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Speaker 2: my birthday and so they just brought out a cake.

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Speaker 1: So like yeah, so it was we did not have smimoni.

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Speaker 2: It was just the cake with like the like an

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Speaker 2: almond cherry like cherry almond frosting kind of think it was.

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Speaker 1: It was very good. Yeah, I mean, next time you

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Speaker 1: go there, let me know. Because Johnny Mancini, Yeah, big

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Speaker 1: Vikings fan and for decades, they've arranged for a bus

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Speaker 1: that picks up a bunch of people at Mancini's, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: goes to lambeau Field. So it's like a package been

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Speaker 1: every single year and then comes back day of the game.

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Speaker 1: It's a yeah, they still do that, man, Johnny, Johnny

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Speaker 1: and Patrick both love the Vikings. I know Johnny better

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Speaker 1: than Patrick, So yeah, they would love to meet you.

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Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. How did program Password go last Friday?

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Speaker 1: Did Jeff?

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Speaker 2: We had a good time. Yeah, we got the lead

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Speaker 2: and then it was tight the whole way. I mean

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Speaker 2: it was was a E and Barb me. No, it

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Speaker 2: was me in common against we'll Be and Alec Lewis.

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Speaker 2: So we got up. I think we were made. We

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Speaker 2: were never up more than like ten. And it got

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Speaker 2: tight late and we'll Be. He had a couple, she

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Speaker 2: had a couple of good clue was that. I think

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Speaker 2: they got on on the first guess so we it

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Speaker 2: was late in the game, we were starting to come

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Speaker 2: back and it's that question of do you go with

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Speaker 2: you know, do you pass on the first one or

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Speaker 2: do you take it? And we took one where you know,

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Speaker 2: you try to get it on the first one, just

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Speaker 2: to not give them a chance, and we missed that

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Speaker 2: that kind of put us, uh think the bucket. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was it was fun of the games, terrific every

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Speaker 2: Friday for sure.

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Speaker 1: Program with Dan Cole the common ma'am so as mentioned

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Speaker 1: the with the big team presser in the rearview mirror,

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Speaker 1: what's next for the scribe? What's next for you? I

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Speaker 1: mean is it just simply Flores watch? There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of that. Then take what comes to you, take, you know,

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Speaker 1: just like low key work it, then get to the combine.

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Speaker 1: Is that how it goes?

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Speaker 2: That kind of is how it goes. Yeah, it's always

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Speaker 2: it feels like you're sort of monitoring and you know,

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Speaker 2: you're checking around to see what's going on. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of that stuff that you're kind of always in

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Speaker 2: after many camp. It's that mini camp to training camp

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Speaker 2: it'll be Flora's watch, It'll be trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: Petton retiring yesterday, so they're gonna have a linebacker outside

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Speaker 2: linebacker coach job to fill. You've got guys like Derontae

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Speaker 2: like that going on, and then it's I want to

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Speaker 2: spend some time kind of studying ex'es and O's stuff

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Speaker 2: that you just you don't have as much time to

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Speaker 2: do during the season, so I'll probably dig into some things.

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Speaker 1: There would do that well, like JT. O.

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Speaker 2: Sullivan's got a kind of a deep dive how to

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Speaker 2: beat every coverage course that I've I've bought a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, and I need to just get in

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Speaker 2: on the Access Vikings podcast Thursday, so I guess that's

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Speaker 2: tomorrow to kind of talk through Brian Flora stuff. So

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Speaker 2: it'll be fun to dig in with him and get

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Speaker 2: some mex'es and O's kind of takes from him on

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Speaker 2: Flora's his defense, and he's done a lot of work

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Speaker 2: on Flora's his defense and put on a lot of

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Speaker 2: content on it, so it'll be fun to chat with him,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, it'll be a matter of trying to just

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Speaker 2: learn and you know, consume things and gather information from

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Speaker 2: people who know it well and talk about it well.

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Speaker 1: So I want to spend some time on that this

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Speaker 1: offseason two. There's minimal chance Flores leaves the Covenant for

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Speaker 1: another defensive coordinator job, right, minimal chance?

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Speaker 2: I yeah, I think. I mean the fact that it's

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Speaker 2: there was a report yesterday that the commanders want to

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Speaker 2: talk to him about a coordinator job. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think the Vikings are intent on making it worth his

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Speaker 2: wonder if that assistant head coach job, maybe they would

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Speaker 2: little more money probably. I mean, I don't think money's

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Speaker 2: to make it worth his while that way. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it depends on everything else that he wants. Is he

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Speaker 2: he's been very high on working with Kevin O'Connell and

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Speaker 2: I would think the odds of him leaving for another

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Speaker 2: does not get a head coaching look or a serious

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Speaker 3: I should say you were at the presser yesterday, Ben,

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Speaker 3: So this is not new audio to you, but I

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Speaker 3: wanted to play. Somebody asked quasi a question and I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you asked this. I don't know about replacing Floras,

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Speaker 3: what that whole thing looks like.

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Speaker 4: There's always, you know, when you bring in a new coordinator,

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Speaker 4: there's always that carryover possible attrition versus.

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Speaker 1: You know loss.

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Speaker 4: In a sense, he is a unique and he does

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Speaker 4: have a unique play style. But if you really look

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Speaker 4: down deep, what is flow? Value, versatility, physicality, the things

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Speaker 4: that matter and a deep good as the football setting

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Speaker 4: edges tackling different things like that that everybody values. Flow

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Speaker 3: So as I listened to at the first thing, I mean,

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Speaker 3: he said at the end is anybody can do what

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Speaker 3: Flores did. I'm curious, though, what do you think how

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Speaker 3: It's like, all right, well, if he's going to go

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Speaker 3: well down the road in a head coaching process, meanwhile

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Speaker 3: we get some assistance that advance their careers. We're kind

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Speaker 3: of left holding the bag here. Yeah, there is some

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Speaker 3: timing stuff there. I mean, if he goes into a

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: The difference with this as opposed to a normal year

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Speaker 2: later and I figure out how to replace him. It's

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Speaker 2: he's interviewing for head coaching jobs, and it's also possible

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Speaker 1: Not our defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: And again, I think they have a pretty good chance

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Speaker 2: I do think you have to be a little more

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Speaker 2: guy that I think would be a candidate internally, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I do think you have to think about those things.

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Speaker 2: This is a more unique set of circumstances they have

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Speaker 2: chance to get promoted.

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Speaker 3: Would Deronte be a good internal candidate if Flores does

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Speaker 3: take a head coaching job, So if the timing goes

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Speaker 3: in favor and you have that option, would Deronte be

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think he would be high on that list.

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Speaker 2: He's been a guy that in the preseason has cold

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Speaker 2: plays in games, You've seen them.

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Speaker 3: Do this the preseason bit too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kind of like Kevin O'Connell does with Wes Phillips.

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Speaker 2: They've done that with Derontey Jones and Mike Saravo, both

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Speaker 2: in preseason games to give them some reps. And deronte

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Speaker 2: had been here previously under Mike Zimmer actually was hired

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Speaker 2: under Zim, I want to say, in twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 2: then left to become the defensive coordinator I believe at LSU,

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Speaker 2: a good sense for the pressure packages, what the checks

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Speaker 2: look like, all of these unique things they've put in

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Speaker 2: this scheme under Brian Flores. I think both Derontey Jones

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Speaker 2: lot of it probably comes to them by a I

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Speaker 2: think the question is always how much is Brian Flores

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Speaker 2: is particular mad scientist a approach to this the secret sauce?

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Speaker 2: How much of that can you replicate? And that's kind

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Speaker 1: If you don't want Brian Flores to leave the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I give Flores to the Ravens a

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Speaker 1: And it's also been a team that.

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Speaker 2: are you sure we can make this happen. I think

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Speaker 2: an eight figure salary, so it's a big check for

436
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 2: a team to write. And you know, the good, bad

437
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: and different of the Packers with the ownership structure when

438
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: they have to write big checks. It comes out of

439
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: the team profits. It's not coming out of an owner's

440
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 2: deep pocketbook. So you know, the good of what they

441
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: have is when the profits get made, they go right

442
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: back to the operations of the team. The bad is

443
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: if they have to write a big check for something,

444
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: it's it's a different funding mechanism that way. So yeah,

445
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 2: I wonder about it a little bit because you'd have

446
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 2: to make that type of commitment financially to him.

447
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: My number one question not being part, not being part

448
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: of that situation, not knowing, you know, Like remember a

449
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Sam and the Vikings jump the

450
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 1: Packers of Lambeau twenty eight zero Lafleor throws the worst

451
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: chance from Yep. I've ever seen a head coach story

452
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: during the game, yep, and Bill Vinovich you know, I

453
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: don't you know, Hey, we're giving you a chance, giving

454
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 1: you a chance? No, Now, I got to throw it, man,

455
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: You're ten yards out on the field. Yeah. So he

456
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: may have some tantrum throwing to him, but he wouldn't

457
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: be the first, no, So I mean it's it's that

458
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: would need to be discussed. But the a topic for

459
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: me would be Matt, how come when we lose these

460
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 1: playoff games, the final play or plays zah leading up

461
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: to it are always just combobulated. Always it just looks

462
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: unorganized at the end. I don't amount of timeouts, that

463
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: kind of stuff.

464
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's enough question Matt, there's enough of

465
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 2: that with him, where it's the composure in those spots

466
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: and you know, body language. It's hard to read into

467
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: all of it and hard to say that it's indicative

468
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: of anything. And sometimes people just you know, get frustrated

469
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: and where their emotions and their sleeves. But you do

470
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: see that with him, whether it's that one, and I

471
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: just feel like there's times where he's kind of you know,

472
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of woe is me, I can't

473
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: believe this is.

474
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: Happening to me kind of stuff.

475
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Speaker 2: And I bring it up because I do think players

476
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: notice that stuff and internal eye to a degree where

477
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: it can set the tone, it can set the emotional

478
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: tenor of what happens on a sideline when you go

479
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: about it that way. So yeah, I wonder about that,

480
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: and I just wonder about like Jordan loves development. I mean,

481
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: he's been to the playoffs all these times and there's

482
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: moments where it's like, hey, he's really starting to figure

483
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: it out. I thought the beginning of this season when

484
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: we saw him, he was more decisive, he was crisper.

485
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: I thought he was throwing the ball better. It's like, hey,

486
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: he's making the jump. But at this juncture of it,

487
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: I mean, because everybody always talks there about, oh, the Packers'

488
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: quarterbacks will win the Super Bowl at age twenty seven,

489
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: I think that was this year for him. You know,

490
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: he has not taken the big leap like Farv did

491
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Speaker 2: or like Rogers did, and some of it maybe he's

492
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: not that guy quite to that degree. I mean, you know,

493
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: those are two of the ten to fifteen greatest quarterbacks

494
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: of all time. It's hard to just say that you

495
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: expect somebody to be the same. But how much of

496
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: it is the way you've developed him too? I wonder

497
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: that because it does feel like they've hit a little

498
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: bit of a ceiling with him, and how much of

499
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: that goes back to the coaching and the way you're

500
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: developing him, And that ultimately would be on Matt Lafoor too.

501
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: Emily, Andrew and Ben did an Access Vikings podcast yesterday

502
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: at ben Gesline via Twitter if you would like to

503
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: find it or learn more. Likewise for Emily or Andrew's

504
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: Twitter feeds. There it was discussed the quarterback competition. There

505
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 1: will be a quarterback competition brought in to Battle or

506
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: involved JJ McCarthy. So the quarterback room, the perception of

507
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: what's going to take place to this offseason. What do

508
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: you think of all that?

509
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting how direct they were about

510
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: having competition, and I asked Quacy in his press conference

511
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: about how much do you have to communicate that a

512
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: certain way to free agents, because I certainly think that

513
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: played very heavily into the Daniel Jones decision last year.

514
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: The money was there for him to come back, it

515
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: was the question of where am I going to be

516
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: able to get on the field, because it's not just

517
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: a one year deal for him, it's he's a twenty

518
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: seven year old quarterback thinking about what can I do

519
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: to springboard the rest of my career to get a

520
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: long term deal somewhere else. So he looked at it

521
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: and said, I have a better chance to beat out

522
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson than I do. JJ McCarthy. I think he

523
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: was right about that. The question I have is are

524
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Speaker 2: they going to talk about this differently to free agents

525
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: or people that they might try to trade for or

526
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: whatever in twenty twenty six, given what they've seen from

527
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, and he said, we have a lot of

528
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: conversations with free agents about that, and I think kind

529
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: of alluded to the fact that you may have to,

530
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: you know, make this situation seem favorable to a player.

531
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: And he talked about we have a lot of things

532
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: going for us independent of how much you could play.

533
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: But he seemed very aware of that that you're going

534
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: to have to have players think that I have a

535
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: good chance to win this job. I think Florio got

536
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: into this a little bit, you know, right before I

537
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: jumped on, and I agree with it that you're going

538
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: to have to market this in a way that tells

539
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: players I have a good chance to go in there

540
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: and be the starting quarterback. I'm not just being brought

541
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: in as a clipboor holder. I think that's going to

542
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: be a lot of it. I think the fact that

543
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: they were as united on this and as open as

544
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: they were about we want competition, I don't think that

545
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: was an accident.

546
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: Right when I heard that that audio clip about how

547
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 3: they handled that situation, you look back, you learn from it,

548
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 3: and just kind of thinking about Quacy's answer. I know

549
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: a lot of us look backwards zone we think about

550
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: how different the season could have been, whether I mean

551
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: Darnold is a more often used example or talker, but

552
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: specifically with Daniel Jones because you hit on it. Most

553
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: likely we start the season with JJ McCarthy and so

554
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: then Daniel Jones steps in. I mean, this is we're

555
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: working in a vacuum here, and hypotheticals and all that,

556
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 3: but he would only step in after that ankle injury

557
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: against the Falcons, and then the idea that when JJ

558
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 3: was healthy, they would probably go back to JJ McCarthy,

559
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: and so the idea of this being a material different season.

560
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: Maybe they lament how they handled Daniel Jones. I don't know.

561
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 3: Do you think that makes a big difference in terms

562
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: of how we watched twenty twenty five play out how

563
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: they handled JJ?

564
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I think if Daniel Jones is

565
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: here and say he comes in when McCarthy gets hurt

566
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: and plays well to the point where I mean, like

567
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz was I think serviceable and I think you know,

568
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: kept them in a lot of games but is if

569
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is doing what he did early in the

570
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: year in Indianapolis in Minnesota, do they keep riding with

571
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones.

572
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance they do.

573
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: So you know, all of that, does, you know, kind

574
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: of play into your mind of how would the season

575
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: have gone if the alternative to McCarthy was one that

576
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: they felt a little bit better about. And I think

577
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: a lot of the focus of this season they had

578
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: decided was developing JJ and and you have to, you know,

579
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: play that out. But at the same time, if you

580
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: had a quarterback that was playing at the level that

581
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: we saw Daniel Jones do it in Indianapolis, that that

582
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: decision gets a little harder. So yeah, I do wonder

583
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: about that. And I think at least into twenty six,

584
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: I think they know that if you're going to bring

585
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: somebody in here that is a high enough caliber to

586
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: take you back to the playoffs, you're probably going to

587
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: have to do it by saying, yeah, you have a

588
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: good chance to come in and win the job out

589
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: of camp. I mean, I don't think they're going to

590
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: guarantee it to somebody necessarily, But and money goes into

591
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: all of this too, and that's in a whole nother

592
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: conversation for another time. But yes, I think the promises

593
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: they make, or at least the opportunities as the way

594
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: they frame it, I think it's gonna have a lot

595
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: to do with where this goes.

596
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: And if if, again with the right to change this opinion,

597
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: is the off season moves forward and the steam begins

598
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: to emerge and percolate. Do you believe that would be

599
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: more so via trade or with what with Carson Wentz

600
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: who you have? Yeah, you know, like I don't know

601
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: what Nick mullins deal was with Jacksonville, if it was

602
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: one or two somebody like that, or the list you know,

603
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: the unrestricted free agents that you see, because that's not

604
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: a great lesson. But I'm with you on on the

605
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: the maturity, the the advancement of leaving things more open

606
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: than they did last year. I just Daniel Jones you

607
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: had here. You know what his skill set is, you know,

608
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: like Donald Hey, you know, like like I said, with

609
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: Darnold into his first season. If if you think throwing

610
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: to Justin Jefferson and TJ. Hockinson is like Robbie Anderson,

611
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: Ian Thomas and Tommy Tremble, You're out of your mind.

612
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: That's not so he's gonna have a better chance here.

613
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Well that was a Daniel Jones situation too. Well what's

614
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: next unless it's Whence is not? You know what I mean?

615
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: It would to leave it open the way they did

616
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: had me thinking, hmmm, are they interested in trading for somebody? Yeah?

617
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like somebody that's been here before. Is that what

618
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: you're don't know?

619
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just know the list of unrestricted free agents? Yeah,

620
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: and with respect, And I like Mark because Mariota a lot. Yeah,

621
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean I put a lot of work into him

622
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: after the season and what he did outside of the

623
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Vikings game, like he had a fantastic year. Yeah, he

624
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: had some moments for sure. Yeah, Mariota was was he

625
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: was in control of a situation that was out of control.

626
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: And when you're you know, when when there's chaos and

627
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: you're the controlled part of the controlled chaos, you gained

628
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: my respect for what is worth. Yeah. So like, okay,

629
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: that's one name, But I mean is that somebody or

630
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: anybody that you think of who could be available, including

631
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz of whom I'm fond and I know you

632
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: are too, that you can look at and say that's it.

633
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm this is a full blown competition here between this

634
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: guy who's done this, yeah, and the guy that we

635
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: have here McCarthy, who we drafted. Yeah.

636
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: I mean it. It probably depends on how aggressive you

637
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: want to get what you want to pay for. I mean,

638
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: Malik Willis is going to be a name on the

639
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: on the market, and I think he'll make some money.

640
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: You've got I mean, Daniel Jones needs a deal somewhere,

641
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: Jim Garoppolo.

642
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean the first time, the third time, Malik Willis, Yeah,

643
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: takes off on a third and nine, yep, and there's

644
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: an open receiver in the middle of the field that

645
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: they all come back. He's gonna lose his mos. Yes.

646
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: And that was one of the top stuff. And that

647
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: was one of the things with with with Aaron Rodgers,

648
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, the conversation up to training camp last year

649
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: that I was like, Okay, I mean, yeah, I know

650
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: all this. He still throws the best back fade, back

651
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Speaker 1: shoulder fade in the history of the NFL. I get

652
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Speaker 1: all of that, but it's gonna take about five minutes

653
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Speaker 1: for Rogers to change five of O'Connell's plays and they

654
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Speaker 1: don't work. And this whole thing might blow up. Yeah, yeah,

655
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Speaker 1: there's some of that. Just I mean it goes both ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean Garoppolo is a guy that's been

657
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Speaker 2: in a similar system. Obviously, he's played for McVay in

658
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. That's an interesting name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

660
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: And the name that we are dancing around and haven't

661
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: mentioned is Kirk Cousins or Joe Burro come back here?

662
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Joe Burrow. Yes, I mean, if you don't

663
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Speaker 1: the same scheme off what Joe Burrow said, yeah, a

664
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Speaker 1: month and a half ago. If you if you are

665
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Speaker 1: interested in opening this thing up, if you don't, you

666
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Speaker 1: have to have to them. Yes, and just see or

667
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Speaker 1: or Burrow's representation, Just see how serious this thing is.

668
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Speaker 1: Kick the tires. And I'm saying that, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: necessarily the biggest fan of it because of the competition,

670
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Speaker 1: but I'm also saying that, you know, I'm not saying

671
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Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, but there's just the way

672
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Speaker 1: that whole thing was framed up. Yesterday. I was just

673
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Speaker 1: like they they're talking around to something, Yeah, figure out

674
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Speaker 1: what it was. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to look at everything, and I

676
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Speaker 2: think that could be you know, a guy like Mariota.

677
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Speaker 2: That the attractive thing there is it's a guy that

678
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Speaker 2: has shown by being drafted where he was, that he

679
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: has a lot of talent to play the position. You know,

680
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: obviously was attractive to teams to go as high as

681
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Speaker 2: he did in the draft, which you know, that's Sam

682
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Speaker 2: Darnald kind of stuff. And it's a different skill set

683
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: than Donald Mariota have different skill sets, but it's a

684
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Speaker 2: guy that has shown high level talent that Kevin O'Connell

685
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Speaker 2: may say, if I get him in here and kind

686
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: of can you know, do the rebranding thing with him,

687
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's some opportunities there. But yeah, I think, well,

688
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Speaker 2: the cousins, they'll look at anything. Yeah, the cousin's name.

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Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, saying it's the lowest of low

690
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Speaker 1: hanging for Yeah, but he did finish the season pretty well,

691
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: knows the thing inside and he does all right. Lastly,

692
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Speaker 1: the ceiling is there's a certain ceiling there too. Great

693
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Speaker 1: example one thousand of why qualifying a player with accolades

694
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Speaker 1: by stating Pro Bowl berths and not all pro status

695
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Speaker 1: is just foolish. Will Reiker failed to make the Pro Ball,

696
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Speaker 1: But is the NFL's first team All Pro kicker. He's

697
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Speaker 1: the best kicker in the National Football League at me.

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Speaker 1: If you want he.

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Speaker 2: Is, yeah, I would agree. I mean, he had a

700
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Speaker 2: tremendous here. I mean the kicks that he made in

701
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Speaker 2: tough places to kick Soldierfield Lambofield from you know, fifty

702
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Speaker 2: nine to fifty eight yards out, that was I mean,

703
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Speaker 2: because there aren't that many places in the NFL anymore

704
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Speaker 2: that forced you to kick in bad conditions. And they

705
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Speaker 2: didn't play in either of those buildings late enough in

706
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Speaker 2: the year where it was you know, he's having to

707
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Speaker 2: make those length of field goals in late December, but

708
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Speaker 2: he did have to play on two surfaces that have

709
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Speaker 2: been tricky places to make kicks, as Brandon McManus just

710
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Speaker 2: showed again last weekend. So it was that it was

711
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Speaker 2: the fact that he was as accurate as he was

712
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Speaker 2: despite the you know, having to kick in so many

713
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Speaker 2: long field goal type situations. At the one in you know,

714
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Speaker 2: London with the camera wire that you know whatever, I'm

715
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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what happened there. It looked like

716
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Speaker 2: it hit it in the NFL claims that it didn't,

717
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Speaker 2: but you know, setting that aside, for him to be

718
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Speaker 2: as accurate as he was, making as many big kicks

719
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Speaker 2: as he did. Yeah, it was an unbelievable season for him.

720
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Speaker 2: And yeah, it doesn't make the Pro Bowl. Some of

721
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Speaker 2: that is obviously fan voting goes into it. Players vote

722
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Speaker 2: and how much are players paying attention to kickers around

723
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Speaker 2: the league? I don't know, but yeah, for him to

724
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Speaker 2: get that honor, as you know, a panel of fifty

725
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Speaker 2: largely the journalists and a to give some four players

726
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Speaker 2: on that panel to vote on it, Yeah, that's a

727
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: bigger deal than Pro Bowl, and it kind of shows

728
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Speaker 2: the difference in the level of investment, the level of

729
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Speaker 2: research that goes into picking those perspective teams.

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Speaker 1: You're the best, my brother. Enjoy some time off. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you in a couple of weeks hopefully. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: to the Minnesota Timberwolves handling business last night against the

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Speaker 3: Milwaukee Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Randall on the attack setting up McDaniels.

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Speaker 5: That get he is handling it here at the opening

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Speaker 5: quarter and that's fourteen. Here are the first on perfect

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Speaker 5: five of five, shooting four from distance.

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Speaker 1: Talked about who needs to step up?

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Speaker 3: Jade's taking it to heart? Yeah, no, Anthony Edwards last night,

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Speaker 3: jadon McDaniel's stepping up. How about mister Randall.

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Speaker 1: Bowen's on the attack.

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Speaker 5: Looks like he got bons Barren j with the offensive

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Speaker 5: rebound setting up Randall. Focky ball splashed this whole third,

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Speaker 5: three and a half for Julius Randall and the Timberwolves

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Speaker 5: up twenty two on the Milwaukee Bucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big FEMA last night. Those triples indeed.

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Speaker 5: Done against this former team to range, The Triple Bills

776
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Speaker 5: had their largest.

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Speaker 3: Lead of the game right here on thirty four.

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Speaker 5: Thirty seven, coming up on a season high in that category.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty of thirty seven eventually was twenty two to

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Speaker 3: forty two. Fifty two percent from deep last night, you

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Speaker 3: dig that as Julius Randall he led the way with

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Speaker 3: twenty nine points. It was Bones off the bench with

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Speaker 3: five triples of his own as the Wolves just dominate

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Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Bucks in Milwaukee one thirty nine, one oh

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Speaker 3: six podcast. Well, shortly after the show concludes, head coach

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Speaker 3: Chris Finch joining the show to kickoff things thanks to

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Speaker 3: second Harvest, Heartland and prize picks. But for the Timberwolves,

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Speaker 3: they get the chill and it sounds like by all accounts,

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Speaker 3: right foot injury maintenance on a Tuesday for Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 3: means that he will be available as soon as well.

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Speaker 3: Two days from now, you got Houston and the Spurs

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Speaker 3: and a Friday Saturday back to back, and you heard

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Speaker 3: Alan Horton's voice along Jim Pete on the analysis. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna get to hear both those games right here on

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Speaker 3: the fan and Finchy sounded low key excited to play Houston,

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Speaker 3: where he's like the first time we've got in Houston

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 1: And I could have played the Durank Cards instead, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about Shengoon, their center because I know

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Speaker 1: Chris is a massive fan.

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Speaker 3: Of his and he's coming age this season.

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Speaker 1: No doubt he's fantastic. But this Wolve's Houston game and

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Speaker 1: then San Antonio after that. That's a sneaky little class

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Speaker 1: test on the road at this stage of the equation.

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Speaker 1: At about the midway point, san Antonio I think, was

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Speaker 1: trying to sweep Oklahoma City last night. I know they

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Speaker 1: had beaten him twice earlier this year. Tightly contested game,

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Speaker 1: middle of the third quarter. Then the OKAC has been

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Speaker 1: going through some hiccups of late for whatever the reason,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but they they took a time

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Speaker 1: out last night, middle late third quarter. Somebody made a decision.

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Speaker 1: This crap is done. Okay, we are done playing like this.

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Speaker 1: They ran away from the San Antonio Spurs, full compliment

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Speaker 1: sans the cell who's been out for a while, but

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Speaker 1: I mean Wenby played last night. They ran away from

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Speaker 1: the Spurs like they were tied to a post. I

817
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Speaker 1: mean they killed them from the third quarter through the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So something clicked with OKC last night. San

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Speaker 1: Antonio is still a formidable force. Then you get Utah

820
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Speaker 1: at the end of that. Utah's ever beatable, but they

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Speaker 1: got some scorers on their squad. So these next three

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Speaker 1: are pretty cool. Yeah, next three are pretty cool indeed,

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Speaker 1: including Houston. Houston certainly different circumstances, of course, but you

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Speaker 1: think about when you speak of the Minnesota Timberwolves and

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Speaker 1: just point guard navigation over the course of this year,

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Speaker 1: trying to use Amen Thompson as a ball handler, what

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Speaker 1: they've tried to do. I think Van Vliet's out for

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Speaker 1: the season, yeah, and so trying to navigate who's leading

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Speaker 1: the offense and maybe problems that can exist or arise.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to get to focus.

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Speaker 3: In and dial in on what the Rockets look like

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Speaker 3: on Friday Night as well.

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Speaker 1: It's analogous to hear because you can run point forward

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant and they do. Now, he's not as

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Speaker 1: good at it at this stage of his career as

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Speaker 1: Julius Randall because he doesn't handle the ball in tight

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Speaker 1: quarters the way Randall does. But the center Shngoon, well,

838
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: he handles the ball incredibly well for somebody that size.

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Speaker 1: So they they're interesting. I just maybe I need to

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Speaker 1: change my face with the Rockets because I heard a

841
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: lot of stuff about him into the season. I just

842
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: need to see it consistently from them. I know they

843
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: can be. They're fast. They remind me of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: They just they're fast, they're flashy. They got a lot

845
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: of big you know, big dunkers and things like that.

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Speaker 1: But when the rubber meets the road, we'll see. We'll

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Speaker 1: see from a class test standpoint in the postseason, truly

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Speaker 1: how good they are.

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Speaker 3: You heard this on the airwaves last night. Sadly it

850
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: went the wrong way for your Gophers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Tyson, Wow, here comes black Well tw two with

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Speaker 1: one of three to.

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Speaker 5: Twenty five cutter for Blackwell.

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Speaker 1: To win it, and they're running all over the opponent's floor.

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00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: And we've seen this movie before. Yeah, what an amazing

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Speaker 1: finish to a sporting event last night. First and foremost,

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Speaker 1: Nolan Winter all right, who I've known since he was

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Speaker 1: a little kid. Is His father, Trevor, played for the Gophers,

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Speaker 1: played for the Wolves for a minute. His mom, Heidi,

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00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: was elite volleyball talent for the University of Minnesota. So

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Speaker 1: I've known the Winters for a long time. I haven't

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Speaker 1: talked to Nolan and quite some time, But there he is.

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Speaker 1: Nolan Winter up three at the foul line at Williams Arena,

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Speaker 1: all he needs to do is hit one. It's Connie's

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Speaker 1: gonna win, and he clanks both. Here come the Gophers

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Speaker 1: cade Tyson away from twenty eight.

867
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Speaker 3: Bam. It's only three of the night too.

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Speaker 1: And now the Badgers they're in a hurry. Foreign changed

869
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: to go excellent inbound to the guy Blackwell, who was open.

870
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: He went streaking down the court. I don't know who

871
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: played defense on him. You can't do any better when

872
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Speaker 1: it comes to defense at the right, at the buzzer

873
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: and making sure you don't foul. My man did a

874
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: great job. This kid hit it and goes sprinting around

875
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Speaker 1: the court, circumnavigating Williams Arena, popping his jersey to everything

876
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Speaker 1: maroon and gold that he could find. That I mean,

877
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: I ain't kidding you, man, and the Gophers were winning early.

878
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: It was a really really good game the bat. The

879
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: Badger's got some skill man and a lot of them

880
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: are Minnesotans. They pulled away by like nine points. That sucker.

881
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: Looked like it was over with about seven minutes to go,

882
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: but then med Bed's team comes charging at him again

883
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: and forced up Well. They needed Nolan to miss those

884
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: two free throws, but hey, that's how the world works.

885
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: They got it, then Tyson hit They're gonna go to overtime.

886
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Speaker 1: It was just a spectacular finished last night. A nice

887
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Speaker 1: call by Mike Griham.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good call by grim. Tough loss for the Gophers,

889
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: entertaining game as it was. And next up they're at Illinois,

890
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Speaker 3: thirteenth ranked Illinois on Saturday. Yes, wow, Big ten, Big

891
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: ten's good conference. Yeah, Michigan I think tops in the

892
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Speaker 3: Michigan and Purdue four or five. Then you have Nebraska

893
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Speaker 3: at eight, Freddie hoiberg Izzo at twelve, Illinois at thirteen. Yeah,

894
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Speaker 3: as strong as always in Wisconsin, potentially trying to climb

895
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Speaker 3: the charts as well. We sy I'll see last bit

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Speaker 3: I have where he news to nord style, and you

897
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Speaker 3: mentioned it earlier talking about it with Florio as well

898
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Speaker 3: as the Brian Flores fodder that exists. Mike Tomlin announcing

899
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Speaker 3: that he's no longer going to coach the Pittsburgh Steelers,

900
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: and that kind of rocks the NFL coaching world already

901
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 3: with so many vacancies, now Mike Tomlin's stepping away, creating

902
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: an opportunity in Pittsburgh nineteen years Super Bowl Not bad

903
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: for a guy that walked in thinking he was just

904
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: going to be a Rooney Rule candidate and finds his

905
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: way into a job, takes that job and ran quite

906
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: well with it.

907
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I won a Super Bowl and he did so

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00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: at Yeah the which one did they? Bill Kauer won

909
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: at Portfield when Antoine ran Delu threw a pass to

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00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: hinz Ward. Tomlin won that Super Bowl where the game

911
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: winning the game winning passed to Santonio Holmes. Holms over

912
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: the cards, maybe back right to the end zone went

913
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: over former Viking cornerback Ralph Brown in a game James

914
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: Harrison went huffing and puffing like ninety five yards to

915
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: the end zone right in front a halftime.

916
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the second season as coach. He was

917
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Speaker 3: the eight season. Two years later they would go and

918
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Speaker 3: lose to Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, didn't find their way back

919
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: sadly after that, but never a losing record during his

920
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: nineteen seasons in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you last. You last nineteen years in the job

922
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: where those lines are long and the gigs are hard

923
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: to find, and you leave with a ring. That's a

924
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: job well done and also qualifies you as one of

925
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: the moreccomplished coaches in the history of the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations to Mike Tomlin. He'll sit out the year,

927
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Speaker 1: scoop that thirteen million. The Ruins are going to have

928
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Speaker 1: to pay him, get into the TV world a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and then he absolutely my estimation. We'll come back with

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Speaker 1: some team in twenty twenty seven. As to use de nord.

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Speaker 1: Courtesy of Canterbury Parkcanterbury Park dot com. Olivia King part

932
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Speaker 1: of a youth hockey hub. She'll be back in studio

933
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Speaker 1: nine to noon to discuss the world of puck. When

934
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Speaker 1: we continue walking up to Bryant McKinney about a half

935
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Speaker 1: hour from now, former Vikings offensive lineman and former Miami Hurricane.

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Speaker 1: He's going to join nine to noon to discuss the

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Speaker 1: National Championship game. Martin Luther King Day between his Canes

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Speaker 1: and Miles Prices IU Hoosiers. It's nine to noon. Don't leave.