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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty, long time friend of the show,

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Speaker 2: host of Bengals on the Brain. Joe Goodberry joins me. Now, Hi, Joe,

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Speaker 2: how are you well.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Excited to be on here, excited for

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Speaker 3: the week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you for being here. Let me start

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Speaker 2: with the defense. The Bengals defense what specifically has has

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Speaker 2: led to this Bengals defensive turnaround over the last three weeks.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot of layers to that. Because they

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Speaker 3: were so bad, right, they're historically bad. They're on a

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Speaker 3: the last three weeks, I think they've figured a few

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Speaker 3: things out. Number one, their blitz rate has gone up

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Speaker 3: a lot more. Nol Golden has said that that's because

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Speaker 3: the young guys are now able to do these things.

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Speaker 3: They're able to expand some of these calls and give

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Speaker 3: some different looks, and they understand the defense better so

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Speaker 3: he can expand the playbook. I believe some of that.

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Speaker 3: The other part is I think Al Golden figured they're

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Speaker 3: going to be better against the run if they do

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Speaker 3: more three to four looks on these base downs and

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Speaker 3: early downs. And they've been doing that, and I think

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Speaker 3: it has helped getting bigger bodies at defensive tackle, not

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Speaker 3: using Demetrius Knight to do like a quasi three four

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Speaker 3: defense to bring them down to the edge play outside linebacker.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that ever made sense. They would sometimes

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Speaker 3: outside linebacker. Instead, they've been going with three defensive tackles.

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Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson's getting more run. I think he's been a

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Speaker 3: plus player when he's been in for his fifteen snats

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Speaker 3: or so, and then you're getting Josephsai and Miles Murphy

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Speaker 3: kicked out at least one more tech, one more gap

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Speaker 3: and giving them more advantageous situations on the edge, giving

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Speaker 3: you five defensive linemen on the front, and I think

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Speaker 3: that helps you defend the run for sure. I think

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Speaker 3: the other part is underrated. One that probably nationally no

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Speaker 3: eltlevating Jalen Davis to the slot corner rolling kicking Dax

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Speaker 3: sell out to the boundary. At first, they hurt Dax.

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Speaker 3: I mean that first game he got beat d by

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Speaker 3: the Patriots, Kishon Boody had those couple of one pass

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Speaker 3: interference that didn't look good for him. But I think

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Speaker 3: Dax need to get his legs under him. We know

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Speaker 3: he can do it. He did it last year. But

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Speaker 3: Jaylen Davis has been a plus player in terms of

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Speaker 3: blitzaying run, defense, tackling, and I think that's been good

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Speaker 3: for them overall to get some three guys they can

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Speaker 2: Why do you think it took so long to get

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Speaker 3: I think they really still wanted Cam Taylor Britt to

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Speaker 3: enough flashes throughout his four years before, you know, going

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Speaker 3: would look really good and that would make your cornerback

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Speaker 3: DJ Turner's at an all pro level. If if Cam

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Speaker 2: So those few things that you outlined that in your

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Speaker 3: I think it is because they are playing a lot

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Speaker 3: that's sustainable. Everyone should grow into their role. You're not

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Speaker 3: So as the linebackers slowly get better, and I think

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Speaker 2: I think one of the bridespots this year has been

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Speaker 2: DJ Turner. You mentioned him a moment ago. Why do

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Speaker 2: you think it has clicked for him? And what has

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Speaker 3: Well, let's go back to when he was a prospect. Right,

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Speaker 3: he's a humberd around these receivers in his rookie year,

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Speaker 3: to make him look good. You're putting him in his

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Speaker 3: So I think all of those things combined is putting

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Speaker 3: should be considered probably second team All Pro. He should

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Speaker 3: data out there and like, you know, here's PFF numbers.

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Speaker 3: DJ Turner is excellent. Film reviews on DJ Turner. Look

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Speaker 3: how good he looks. I do think he looks real good.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna be talking about when we get to the

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Speaker 2: Do you think that the light bulb has finally turned

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's turned on. I would say

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Speaker 3: it's definitely flickering more often than it was. I thought

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Speaker 3: what was the difference because some of the data even

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Speaker 3: says that Miles was winning at a similar rate as

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Speaker 3: a pass rusher to what he's winning at now when

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Speaker 3: And I thought he was. But so the big thing

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Speaker 3: make more plays. We know he's long, he's very athletic,

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Speaker 3: lacked was I think the awareness. He didn't have the

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Speaker 3: experience and awareness are tied together for a lot of players,

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Speaker 3: and you can see that starting to snowball and really grow.

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Speaker 3: The other part is your hand usage and your moves

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Speaker 3: good yet. He doesn't look like a guy that's a

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Speaker 3: be a little bit more consistent. Because we've had games

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Speaker 3: in moments like this from Miles in the past. But

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Speaker 3: good players do it three out of four games, right,

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Speaker 3: So he needs this to continue for the final five games.

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Speaker 3: If it does, he might get his fiftyeer option picked up,

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Speaker 3: which is like thirteen point six million, So I'm sure

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Speaker 3: he's got a lot of reasons to play for that.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Joe Goodbarry, host of Bengals on the Brain

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Speaker 2: also on X at Joe Goode, Let's go to the

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Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, it felt like to me,

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Speaker 2: Joe that it was basically the same old Bengals offense.

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Speaker 2: With Joe Burrow back at the Helm against Baltimore on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of his performance and overall, how

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Speaker 2: do you evaluate the offense after Buffalo?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Burrow, I thought it was a little rusty

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Speaker 3: at first. They kind of put him through a crash

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Speaker 3: course of Hey, forty two throws in the first half.

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Speaker 3: We're going a treaty like Forrest Gump with his braces,

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Speaker 3: They're just going to run right out of him, right.

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Speaker 3: And it worked because in the second half he would

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Joe Goodberry Bengals on the Brain,

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Speaker 2: It is Joe Goodberry at Joe Goodberry on x Dude

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Speaker 2: six at Oakley Greens. We'll talk to him twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: from right now. College basketball conversation coming up in just

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Speaker 2: a second. But first let's go the phones five three,

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Speaker 2: seven nine, fifteen thirty. If you want to call in

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Speaker 2: and be a part of the show, Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Mike in Los Angeles right now. What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks, Pal, appreciate it. Hey, I really I'm going

438
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Speaker 5: to get right into the football thing. But I really

439
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,159
Speaker 5: do think that Richard Patino Junior ultimately is going to

440
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Speaker 5: be a better coach than West Miller. I just think

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Speaker 5: the pedigree is there. You look at his dad, He's

442
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Speaker 5: been learning from arguably the best college coach head coach

443
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Speaker 5: ever in college basketball to win championships at two different

444
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Speaker 5: schools in the same state, by the way, and with

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Speaker 5: that kind of pedigree and that kind of learning that

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Speaker 5: he's just been groomed with since he was probably five

447
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Speaker 5: or six years old, I just think he is going

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Speaker 5: to be a superior co is a superior coach to

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Speaker 5: West Miller.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a I think that's a fair take.

451
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're still waiting on it for Wes Miller, right, Like,

452
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Speaker 2: we've heard a lot and we've we've been total a lot,

453
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Speaker 2: but we haven't really seen a lot. And obviously the

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Speaker 2: expectations are a little bit different with Patino at this

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Speaker 2: point in the game. But you can tell there is,

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Speaker 2: you know, legitimate progress being made. Even if the opponents

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Speaker 2: maybe are not the best that they're going up against,

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Speaker 2: you can at least see, okay, this thing's heading in

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Speaker 2: the right direction With Richard Patino.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. And anybody

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Speaker 5: that argues that, I don't know what the basis or

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Speaker 5: the substance of their argument would be. But you know,

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Speaker 5: I love this good bery guy, Austin. I loved him

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Speaker 5: He's like the Bengals micro micro management analyst of Greg Cosel,

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Speaker 5: who does you know everything? You know? How?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great comparison.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy is every time you now, especially today,

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Speaker 5: this guy, I mean, my god, man, he opened my

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Speaker 5: eyes up about a bunch of stuff. And I appreciate

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Speaker 5: you having any more because he he really is. You can,

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Speaker 5: like you just said, you can tell he does his homework.

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Speaker 5: This guy's no joke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he mentioned does a film break down a

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Speaker 2: show that he posts on the YouTube page. It's it's

475
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Speaker 2: really insightful stuff and makes it easy for people who

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Speaker 2: maybe don't watch the film or don't know that much

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Speaker 2: of some of the terminology. Makes it really easy to understand.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he's the best.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and even for me, I kind of understand it.

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Speaker 5: But he's still, you know, spends more time on it

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Speaker 5: than than most of us do. So that's and like

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Speaker 5: you said, he explains it very well to a layman.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know if that's the right term. But

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Speaker 5: I heard an interest. Did you hear Patrick this morning?

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Speaker 2: I heard a chunk of it, not all of it, though.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 5: Do you hear the interview with Steve Young. He loves

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Speaker 5: Steve Young.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't hear Steve Young.

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Speaker 5: And Steve Young is retally a smart guy. You know,

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Speaker 5: he went on from football and got it. He's a lawyer.

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Speaker 5: And the guy is just brilliant, brilliant, brilliant mind, and

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Speaker 5: he's a fun guy. But he was so Dan asked him,

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Speaker 5: why do you think Stafford's doing so well with other

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Speaker 5: than this debacle the other day? And he said, I'll

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Speaker 5: tell you why, because you look at the guys who

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Speaker 5: are pure pocket passers, like Breeze, like Peyton, like Brady,

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Speaker 5: and now the only ones that are left are Rogers

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Speaker 5: and Stafford. And these guys are playing quarterback of a

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Speaker 5: higher intellect than the rollout passers. And the guys who

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Speaker 5: can run the ball, they can pick a defensive part

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Speaker 5: much more succinctly than than these guys in the current

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Speaker 5: day style of quarterback. And I wanted to get your pack.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was a stute, but I wanted to

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Speaker 5: get your opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's kind of part of like

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Speaker 2: the the years of of like the spread offense and

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Speaker 2: the seven on seven style of offense that's come up

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Speaker 2: through the high school and college ranks, and Tony would

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Speaker 2: be able to understand maybe explain this better than I could.

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Speaker 2: But those guys have seen every possible defense and combination

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Speaker 2: of defense and understand the different ways to beat it.

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Speaker 2: Whereas a lot of the days, a lot of times now,

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks come up through this system and this is what

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Speaker 2: we're running, and this is how we're gonna do it,

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Speaker 2: and here's your read and if it's not there, take

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Speaker 2: off and use your legs and use your athleticism to

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Speaker 2: go get the first down. There's less going through the

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Speaker 2: progression and operating the offense and taking advantage of the

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Speaker 2: defense as much as it's one read and go and

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Speaker 2: take off with your feet. At least that's my perception

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Speaker 2: of it. And the more that you play and the

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Speaker 2: more that you see those defenses, the more that you understand. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and like a guy like Stafford or even like Burrow

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Speaker 2: for an example, it may not have the athletic ability

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Speaker 2: to do that. So they have to be able to

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Speaker 2: learn how to process it, have to be able to

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Speaker 2: learn how to get from one read to the other,

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Speaker 2: or when to check it down and stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: That's what he was basically saying is these guys are

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Speaker 5: much more cerebral and and their ability to to just

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Speaker 5: quickly dissect it. But like you said, they I mean

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Speaker 5: they didn't. They hadn't seen everything when they were young guys,

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Speaker 5: but they came up in that environment. And Uh and

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Speaker 5: Rogers and Stafford are still around, so they're I mean,

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Speaker 5: he made a sound like this, and now I know

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Speaker 5: you got to go. He said, Stafford.

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Speaker 3: He laughed.

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Speaker 5: He said, Stafford is actually laughing at this stuff, and

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Speaker 5: so simple for him. Yeah, he didn't know what happened.

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Speaker 6: The other day.

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Speaker 5: He said, it doesn't matter. We all have a bad games.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, thank you, Austin.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Mike, thanks for the call. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Yeah, I mean I think Stafford too. Just ridiculous

546
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Speaker 2: arm talent and just a perfect marriage between UH quarterback

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Speaker 2: and coach and obviously the weapons Adams Nakua, their run game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Rams are the best team in the

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Speaker 2: NF as far as I'm concerned, at least right now. Uh,

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Speaker 2: time for another Let's go to Hyde Park. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: to Matt. What's up, Matt, Hey, Awestin, how you doing, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm good man. What's on your mind. Well, I'm I

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Speaker 2: was calling in about the buck guys.

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Speaker 5: I uh, I was gonna see is.

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Speaker 7: There anybody Is there anybody in the field, like on

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Speaker 7: the playoff field that scares you?

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Speaker 5: Is there one team?

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Speaker 2: I would say Indiana and Georgia. My friends say I'm

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Speaker 2: crazy for being scared of Indiana, but I mean, you

560
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Speaker 2: don't go twelve and zero on accident, and Signetti wins

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Speaker 2: everywhere he goes, so that in Georgia just I feel

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Speaker 2: like has slowly been increasing in slowly getting better over

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Speaker 2: the course of the season. So I would say.

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Speaker 7: Them, Yeah, I honestly I agree that there's really aside

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Speaker 7: from Bama, Georgia and Indiana, I don't I don't know

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Speaker 7: anybody that actually has got don't anybody can score on us.

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Speaker 7: I feel I feel great, I feel good.

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Speaker 2: It really comes to me though, it comes to those two.

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Speaker 2: Those two quarterbacks Mendoza and Gunner Stockton are experienced. They

570
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Speaker 2: operate the offense really well. And when you have quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: like that, you at least stand the chance against a defense.

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Speaker 2: It may not be, you know, a huge chance, but

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Speaker 2: when you have those you know, experienced passers, I think

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Speaker 2: it means a lot.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then I guess the other thing I left

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Speaker 7: to talk back the other day.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty passionate about this.

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Speaker 7: But with the Notre Dame in Miami, do you have

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Speaker 7: a do you have an opinion on that?

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Speaker 2: I don't honestly, who would you Who would you put in?

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Speaker 2: Who won head to head Miami?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, But but who

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Speaker 7: would you put in?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I honest to god, I've been not

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Speaker 2: really focused on that at all, but I would I

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Speaker 2: would probably put Notre Dame in.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: They look they have, they looked so much better.

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Speaker 2: But it's like Miami beat them.

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Speaker 7: It's true. Whenever they got in, whenever we won the

592
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Speaker 7: national title in twenty fourteen, it was because of Baylor

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Speaker 7: and TCU.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 7: TCU had this amazing uh you know, I guess resume.

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Speaker 7: But but Baylor beat him head to head, and that's

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Speaker 7: and and but but Baylor didn't look great. So they

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Speaker 7: just said, well, we can't put we can't put Baylor

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Speaker 7: in ahead of TCU because like they just have it

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Speaker 7: look great.

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Speaker 5: So they just threw high stated in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what that's what that was like, That's

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Speaker 2: what got us in. Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I I wouldn't have a problem with either one of them.

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Speaker 2: I guess I would lean Notre Dame. But I don't

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Speaker 2: know that I really have a good reason for that

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Speaker 2: other than I don't trust Miami and I don't trust

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Speaker 2: Carson Beck. But yeah, I mean, this is this is

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Speaker 2: what I love about college football is that we get

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Speaker 2: to have this debate every single year. No matter what,

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Speaker 2: there's always this situation scenario.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna be like there's gonna be probably three, four

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Speaker 7: or five teams that all pretty much have the same argument.

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Speaker 7: They're all good, They're all gonna look pretty close.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you, Balin or aka Matt.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the phone call.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, sir, have it going on.

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Speaker 2: You too, man. That is Ballin ain't easy, as he's

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Speaker 2: affectionately known to so many. While we were having that conversation,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals made a roster move. The Bengals today signed

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Speaker 2: cornerback Jalen Kimber to the practice squad. He is a

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Speaker 2: six foot one hundred and ninety pound rookie out of

625
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Speaker 2: Penn State. He was a college free agent signee of

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Speaker 2: the Titans in May, was waived by the Titans on

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Speaker 2: final cuts and spent the four games earlier this season

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Speaker 2: four games earlier this season on Buffalo's practice squad. He

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Speaker 2: was released from the Bills on October fourteenth, so earlier today.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals signed Jalen Davis to the active roster and

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Speaker 2: now they've signed Jalen Kimber to the practice squad. That

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Speaker 2: is the latest when it comes to the Bengals. We'll

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Speaker 2: take a break, We'll come back. College basketball Crosstown Shootout

634
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Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. Hear what both coaches had to

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Speaker 2: say after wins last night on ESPN fifteen to thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Tony Pike sincey three to sixty On ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty on Austin Elmore talked about the fact that

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Speaker 2: college basketball the world centers around Cincinnati on Friday with

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Speaker 2: the Crosstown or the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout. Well, last

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Speaker 2: night both teams victorious Xavier and Cincinnati and their final

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Speaker 2: tune ups ahead of the shootout. Cincinnati won seventy eight

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Speaker 2: to fifty six over Tarleton State. Xavier won ninety six

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Speaker 2: seventy four over Saint Francis. Here is Xavier head coach

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Speaker 2: Richard Patino following his team's win. Well, certainly did.

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Speaker 9: Some good things, did some bad things as well. We're

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Speaker 9: up twenty seven with five point thirty to go, and

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Speaker 9: you know, let them cut that lead to twenty two.

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Speaker 9: That was frustrating, but second half was certainly good. We

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Speaker 9: continue to not to turn the ball over, which has

650
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 9: been terrific. You know, twenty three assists, eight turnovers, really good.

651
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 9: Roddy provided a phenomenal spark off the bench, so it

652
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 9: was a great win. You know, we got to learn

653
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Speaker 9: some things, get a little bit tougher on the ball defensively,

654
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Speaker 9: but we're doing some good things and now we certainly

655
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Speaker 9: got to get back to work tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Richard Patino in that victorious press conference last night, he

657
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: was pretty reserved, just thirty seconds or so of an

658
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: opening statement. Not quite as reserved was Wes Miller following

659
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Speaker 2: his team's win over Tarleton State. Here's the Bearcats head coach.

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Speaker 6: First off, We've been really trying to work on some

661
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: things offensively the last couple of days, and I could

662
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 6: see some of those things take in shape. I thought

663
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 6: we did a good job with our movement. You could

664
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Speaker 6: see the movement early. I thought we got the ball

665
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Speaker 6: to the inside with the dribble and with the pass early.

666
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 6: And I thought we generated really good shots early in

667
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 6: the first half. We didn't sustain it, but you could

668
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 6: see some of the stuff that we were doing in

669
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 6: the last couple of days of practice taking shape offensively.

670
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 6: I thought that the turnovers were careless. Now, Bob I

671
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 6: had seven of them in the first half.

672
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: And you know, he hadn't.

673
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 6: Played basketball for eight days or whatever the heck it's been,

674
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 6: so you know, I know I said this on the radio,

675
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 6: but I'll say it now. I mean, he ain't one

676
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 6: hundred percent and he got hit. He got hit, in

677
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 6: my opinion, not a real good play that he got

678
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 6: hit on in the Louisville game. That took him out,

679
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 6: and he ain't one hundred percent, and he sucked it

680
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 6: up and played, And that, to me is more important

681
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 6: than seven turnovers. That, to me, is what Cincinnati basketball's about.

682
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 6: Everybody told him to sit out for another week or so.

683
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 6: He didn't want to sit out. He wanted to play.

684
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 6: Nobody made him play, nobody told him to play. He said,

685
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: I will play with my teammates and help Cincinnati. So yeah,

686
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 6: he had seven turnovers, but I'll take the guy that

687
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 6: wants to fight through it when they're not one hundred

688
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 6: percent all day, every day. So I was pleased with that.

689
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 6: But the turnovers not just his, but we're careless. Three

690
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 6: times we're jumping out of bounds or falling out of

691
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 6: bounds throwing the ball to the other team. We made

692
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 6: nice defensive plays. That was frustrating, so we got some

693
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 6: things we got to clean up again. In the second half,

694
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Speaker 6: I thought we did a better job of getting the

695
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 6: ball inside in the post, and I don't like moves

696
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 6: line in a game like that where he has such

697
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 6: a size advantage, we have to take advantage of that more.

698
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 6: And he had a couple of silly fouls and some

699
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 6: things not go his way. But I did think we

700
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 6: got it inside there. I liked that we run the

701
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 6: rebounding war again. The turnovers were frustrated, and some of

702
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 6: the defensive airs were frustrating, but there was some really

703
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 6: good defensive possessions too.

704
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Speaker 2: That is you see head coach Wes Miller after the

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Speaker 2: win over Tarleton State, the Crosstown Shootout, the Skyline Chile

706
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: Crosstown Shootout, is Friday at seven point thirty pm. You

707
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: will be able to hear it right tier on all

708
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: of our networks in iHeartMedia Cincinnati, both the Xavier broadcast

709
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: and the Cincinnati broadcast. Good Night of College Basketball coming

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Speaker 2: up tonight mentioned earlier. Number eighteen Kentucky hosting number sixteen

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00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: North Carolina in the acc SEC Men's Challenge, a game

712
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: being played obviously at Rupp Arena. You'll hear it right

713
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: here on ESPN fifteen thirty. The Wildcats six and a

714
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: half point favorites in that game over North Carolina. Before

715
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: them in the acc SEC Men's Challenge is number four

716
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: Duke hosting number fifteen Florida at Cameron Indoors Stadium. That's

717
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: a seven thirty pm tip off and Duke favored by

718
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: eight and a half in that game. There's also a

719
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Speaker 2: top twenty five matchup between Yukon and Kansas Number five

720
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: Yukon at number twenty one Kansas Connecticut one and a

721
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: half point favorites on the road at Allen field Hall

722
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: at Fieldhouse. The number one team in the country, per

723
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Speaker 2: Due is in act. They are at Rutgers number twenty four.

724
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: Usc is at Oregon number thirteen Tennessee at Syracuse, Iowa

725
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: is at number seven. Michigan State as well. Those are

726
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: your top twenty five matchups in college basketball tonight. NKU

727
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: back in action tomorrow night in the beginning of Horizon

728
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: League play for the Norse KU, by the way, first

729
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: place in the Horizon League right now. They get started

730
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: tomorrow night at Truest Arena with Cleveland State coming to town.

731
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: NKU six and two on the season, tied for first

732
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: in the Horizon League with Cleveland State coming to town

733
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Speaker 2: tomorrow seven pm in Highland Heights. So if you're not

734
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: watching that, you know what else comes back on tonight

735
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: for the first time in a long time. It's been

736
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: way too long as far as I'm concerned. Let's see

737
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: if I have the music here ready to go. That's right.

738
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks in season comes back on tonight as well.

739
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: You remember this was a big deal last year when

740
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: the Bengals were on it. It was the AFC North.

741
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: This year it's the NFC East. He might be thinking,

742
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: oh gosh, the Eagles and Cowboys. I don't know that

743
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: there's been a division in football with more drama or

744
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: more compelling storylines than the NFC East. Obviously, think about

745
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: the Giants. You got Jackson Dart and Camp Scataboo and

746
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and Brian da Ball gets fired and he's

747
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: going into the blue medical tent. You've got the Eagles

748
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: and their nonsense with their offense and Kevin Petulo's house,

749
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator was just egged the other night by

750
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: Eagles fans. The aj brown saga going on. You've got

751
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: Washington who had these major high expectations but haven't been

752
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: able to get off the ground. Jaden Daniels playing in

753
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: a game when he shouldn't have and got injured, Terry

754
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: mclaurin's injury all season long. They're also trying to get

755
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: a stadium built in DC. And then the Cowboys are

756
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: a soap opera every day. They obviously have the tragedy

757
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 2: of Marshawn Neeland passing away earlier this year, the trade

758
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: deadline and going after Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson and

759
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: all the different stuff that happened. I'm very excited to

760
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: check out Hard Knocks tonight in the NFC easton for

761
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: that season as well. We'll take a break, we'll come

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00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: back when we do, we'll talk to Moegar. He's at

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Speaker 2: Oakley Greens. This is ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Thirty WCKY, Cincinnati and iHeartRadio station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: I heard radio from the Brown Heating Temp Star Weather Center.

766
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Speaker 2: Mel's Auto Glasses they wear.

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Speaker 3: It's time for Sincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN.

769
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Speaker 2: Fifteenth There looking for more. Yes, indeed, it is time

770
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: for quick hits. And this is typically when we are

771
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: joined by our friend Moegar. Mo, of course, on Tuesdays,

772
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: does his show live from Oakley Greens. And I'm not mistaken.

773
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: I believe we have Mo. Now, Moe are you there?

774
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: Moe not quite ready to go? That's all right? And uh,

775
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: Moe's show coming up this afternoon. I'm starting to see

776
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: levels now. I don't know if Mo's there. Moe are

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00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: you there now?

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00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 8: I am very much here?

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00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: Hi man, how are you?

780
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 8: I'm good man? How about yourself?

781
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm wonderful the beauties of live radio when you produce

782
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: your own show. Uh, you got a show coming up

783
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: this afternoon? What's going to be on it?

784
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Speaker 8: We're at Oakley Greens. Yes, we're at Oakley Greens. It's exciting.

785
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 8: It's warm in here. By the way, come to Oakley

786
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 8: Greens because the roads are fine. The roads are some

787
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 8: of the drivers aren't. The roads completely and totally fine.

788
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 8: So we're here at Oakley Greens. Paul Danner Junior is

789
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 8: gonna join us. I like that the Bengals. The Bengals

790
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 8: are back. I'm hearing some are saying the Bengals are back.

791
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 8: Paul has a couple of good pieces that we're going

792
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 8: to talk about. We wrote about Joe Burrow in the

793
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 8: aftermath of the game on Thursday night. He also wrote

794
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 8: about the continued weirdness of the Trey Hendrickson situation, which

795
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 8: we're gonna spend some time on. There's lots of different

796
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 8: Bengals issues to discuss with our guy, Paul Danner Junior.

797
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 8: Sean sayed Stats and Scheme Newsletter. Our guy who kind

798
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 8: of dives into x's and o's with us, is going

799
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 8: to talk about the improved Bengals defense. We'll get to

800
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 8: the Bills as well, since the Bengals play them. Jeff

801
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 8: Pokoro will be on the show. Kentucky has a new

802
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 8: football coach. Pick is going to join us to talk

803
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 8: about him. I got a few things We're gonna do

804
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 8: an early take on the skyline Chile Crosstown shootout. We

805
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 8: have multiple UC football truths, and I am looking for

806
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 8: the non financial reason why the Red should not sign

807
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 8: Kyle Schwarber. And I will compare Kyle Schwarber to a

808
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 8: ticket I bought to a game not that long ago.

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00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: My biggest You were talking about drivers in the roads

810
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: and everything. Do you think Cincinnati has good drivers? I

811
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: think drivers are the same everywhere. I disagree with that.

812
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: I think Cincinna has excellent drivers. I'm a good driver,

813
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah you know. I mean I was in Columbus the

814
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: other weekend. It was miserable, awful.

815
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 8: Really Yeah, see, you drive enough, you find bad drivers.

816
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 8: But like, this is what annoys me. We get a

817
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 8: moderate amount of snow, right Usually it's like we get

818
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 8: like two big snow days and that's it. I don't

819
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 8: know if today qualifies, but every time you do, you're

820
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 8: gonna hear from somebody who's like from upstate New York like, yeah,

821
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 8: you folks don't know how to drive in the snow.

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Speaker 8: And invariably I'll go to like Syracuse dot com and

823
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 8: they will be on the front page twenty five car

824
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 8: pile up. Yeah, well, clearly you guys in the snow

825
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 8: don't know how to drive either, So I think that's

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00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 8: one of the most overrated tropes. People here don't know

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00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 8: how to drive in the snow. Now, if we were

828
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 8: in Biloxi, Mississippi, and suddenly it snowed right in this

829
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 8: place where they never get snow, I'm guessing people would

830
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 8: have no idea what they're doing behind the wheel. I

831
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 8: think as a general rule, we have good drivers. I

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00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 8: will tell you this though, that in this era of

833
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 8: like everybody shooting each other, the one thing that I

834
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 8: hate that has gone away is like a real good

835
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 8: give someone the bird on the interstate who drives poorly.

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00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 8: There used to be a great amount of satisfaction that

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00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 8: one would get when someone committed a highway faux pas,

838
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 8: and you would just let him know how you felt

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00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 8: by just sticking on the gun, sticking on the bird. Right,

840
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 8: I've been on the receiver. Now you don't know right

841
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 8: now you have you have no idea. You throw someone

842
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 8: the bird, they may pull out a clock. That is

843
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 8: among the many things I don't like about this era

844
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 8: where our national pastime is shooting everybody.

845
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: You're not you can't really throw someone you like.

846
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 8: Double barrel.

847
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: You can't do it anymore. And I got scared. I

848
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: was like, I probably shouldn't have done that, even though

849
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: I laid on the horn. But yeah, no, it's you're

850
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: exactly right. Well, can I tell you something that happened

851
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: to me at this station? So this was just over

852
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: the weekend. Is it the Kroger on Harrison? Sure?

853
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 8: Because I use my Kroger points to get cheaper, cheaper

854
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 8: gas smart And I'm filling my tank and as I do,

855
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 8: I'm cleaning some stuff out of my car. This woman

856
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 8: pulls up. The first thing that happens is she nearly

857
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 8: hits me more my sort of negligence than hers. She

858
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 8: pulls up at the pump right in front of me,

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00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 8: and I just noticed, like she never gets out of

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00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 8: the car, Like she pulls up to the pump and

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Speaker 8: never gets out of the car. Now, I remember what

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00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 8: it was like back in the day. My dad would

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00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 8: drive you pull up, guy would walk to the window.

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Speaker 8: Can I fill your tank? Can I clean your windshield?

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Speaker 8: That sort of We don't do that anymore. This woman

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00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 8: just pulls up and So I was kind of finishing

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00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 8: up my gas all that sort of stuff, and I'd

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00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 8: like pull up like next to her to pull out

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00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 8: of the gas station, and I see she has her

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00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 8: window rolled down in an obvious attempt to communicate with somebody.

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00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 8: And I thought, because she nearly hit me, she wanted

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00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 8: to say something to me. So I rolled down my

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00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 8: passenger window and I go, hey, everything all right, and

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00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 8: she's like, yes, I was hoping there would be a

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Speaker 8: gentleman here who would pump my.

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Speaker 2: Gas for me, did you.

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00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 8: Yes, nice woman, We're not talking about a ninety two

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Speaker 8: year old lady.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 8: Woman was probably a little bit older than me. I

881
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 8: really appreciated that. Right. She thought chivalry was not dead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she and you proved it.

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Speaker 8: It was clinging to this like age when like men

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00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 8: probably did that for women. And I'm like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 8: I'll do that for you, No problem. Got out pumped

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00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 8: the gas. Kind of thought she tipped me or something

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00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 8: that didn't happen. That happened on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you've got some good karma out there that

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00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: hopefully will come back your way. Thanks, no problem. Moegger

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Speaker 2: is next for the Moegger Radio Show at Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mo. He's a I love what he tells a story,

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Speaker 2: and I have no idea where it's going. It's my

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Speaker 2: absolute favorite. Tony is back tomorrow high noon for Tony

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Speaker 2: Pikes since e three sixty. Thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: Moegger is next on the Home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's

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