1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: There, Welcome back to the show. 2 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: Nine to Fox. 3 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: Good morning, Joining us now Chris Finch, head coach of 4 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves. This happens thanks to prize picks and 5 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 3: second Harvest Heartland and ended wins. So Carl Lonnie here 6 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: at iHeart and scoop up bikes bites before it's too late. 7 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: Chris joins us now from Utah coach. Good morning, and 8 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: I'm assuming you probably didn't ski yesterday at Park City 9 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: because of the knee, right, Good morning. 10 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, skiing's never really been something that I've done 11 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: a lot, you know, going up playing basketball was not 12 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: encouraged to go skiing. 13 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: And back in our day, speaking of scheing, Jim McKay, 14 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: remember Jim McKay narrating ABC's Wide World of Sports and 15 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat and 16 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: then the ski jump guy who just got waxed. I 17 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: mean that that that kind of that kind of soured 18 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: me on the slopes at a young age. 19 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: What about you, Yeah, I can see, yeah, I remember 20 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: that very well. 21 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: Actually, and Chris Schenkel doing bowling for dollars remember that? 22 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, well I'm older than you with 23 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: uh with with your conference. It's it's I mean maybe 24 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: for you because you're right in this battle. 25 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: It's been like this for quite some time. 26 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: But it's kind of starting to feel like the West 27 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: has some bloodbath to it. I mean you guys Houston, 28 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: San Antonio, Denver, okc Uh, Phoenix. I mean, you know, 29 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: if Phoenix may not be as good as the the 30 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: aforementioned five, but what a what a physical tough team 31 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: that is. 32 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: It's up. 33 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: It's just a tough quintet there in the West. Wouldn't 34 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: you say, oh, yeah, we knew it was going to 35 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: be like this. 36 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: It's it's seemingly harder and deeper every year, you know, 37 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, we we're seeing it play 38 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: out on a nightly basis, you know, and great games, 39 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: hard fought games, close games. You know, anybody can beat anybody, 40 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 4: you know, kind of just pustling around with each other 41 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: right now, and I think whoever is going to be 42 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: able to catch a little bit of a rhythm. But 43 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: it's you know, I don't see anyone really separating themselves 44 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: like throughout the course of the rest of the season. 45 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: I just think it's going to be like one game. 46 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: Margins is is this like a normal part of the 47 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: season or you know, midway point, approaching All Star break, 48 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: approaching trade deadline. I mean, are like conversations and like attitudes, 49 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: different bodies and minds a little tired, Oh, no doubt. 50 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: There's a lot of kind of a lot of factors 51 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: here at this point in the season. You do have 52 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: I mean, we're halfway through the season or a little 53 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: bit more in from the games played, but we have 54 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: another I don't know, ten games or so before the 55 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: All Star break. You know, you got the trade deadline 56 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: coming up, as you mentioned that certainly will play with 57 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: players minds, and some people are more affected by that 58 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: than others. And you know, injuries and just you know, 59 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: a lot mid season funkiness. There's a lot of a 60 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: lot of things that you know, we've got to fight 61 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: through right now. We've we've circled this month as a 62 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: big one just because of you know, our scheduled tough 63 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: ins and you know, we need we need to start 64 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 4: playing better basketball, which we we definitely have and and 65 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: you know, we just we looked at this as kind 66 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: of the month that would set us up for what 67 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: happens after All Star break. And you know, so far 68 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: we feel like we're on track, and we all lost 69 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 4: a couple of tough ones over the weekend. But you know, 70 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: those were kind of typical games that you were referencing 71 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: here in the West. 72 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: Did with with the players who you know, just may 73 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: have some anxiety thinking that, hey, you know, I may 74 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: have to pack everything up and leave. 75 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: It did Do you have you noticed. 76 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Over the years risk that that that's generated more by 77 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: what they hear and or see on social media or 78 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: maybe from their agents or family members. 79 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 4: No doubt it's coming from outside sources and influences such 80 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 4: as social media. I mean there's yeah, there's there's a 81 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: lot of things that are kind of just absolutely you know, 82 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: conjecture or people just make believing things, you know, referencing 83 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: conversations that we know for a fact have never happened, 84 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 4: and all this kind of stuff. So yeah, so I 85 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: would say the bulk of it is definitely from from 86 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: the media, social media in particular. 87 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: Do do you do you ever have to put out 88 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: fires or do you just like encourage it to go 89 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: in one ear and out the other. 90 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: I mean mostly we just encourage it going in one 91 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: year and out the other. Of you know, well, there's 92 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: there's conversation that Tim does a very good job being 93 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: transparent with our guys about you know, what might be 94 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 4: going on around them, if there is something going on 95 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 4: around them, which largely you know, these things, uh, there's 96 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: there really isn't much substance to them that That doesn't 97 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: mean that every team is not talking to every other 98 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: team and they're talking about players and whatnot, but it's 99 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: most of them it's just kind of exploratory or just 100 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 4: you know, informational gathering, trying to understand the market. You know, 101 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: it's it's certainly not highly transactional at that at that phase. 102 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: But the but Tim does a really good job of 103 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 4: being honest with these guys. I think that really kind 104 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: of helps them. But the reality is something can happen 105 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: that at the last moment, and and so it's hard 106 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 4: to make any certain assurances, you know, but uh, but 107 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: that's just the reality of the business. 108 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and and and obviously the reporters or or 109 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 3: those who are putting it out there, you know, you 110 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: people will have relationships with them, so they'll know, you know, 111 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: whether whether the level of the lid the tea or 112 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: lack thereof, and what I'm getting that for instance, it's like, 113 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: you know MLK Day, you just can you have basketball 114 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: from eleven thirty in the morning all the way basically 115 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: close to midnight. So it's a wonderful day to watch 116 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: the league. And you know, I'm watching Dallas. I mean 117 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: just you know, just Max Christie just hitting three after 118 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: three and they're at Madison Square Garden just killing the necks. 119 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: So you know, after the game, not much pops. But 120 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: then like this morning, you know, in one of the tabloids, 121 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: nick Nicks may be trading Karl Anthony Towns. Sources indicate 122 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: here are five teams that are interested. So I mean, 123 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: you don't second guess, you don't say the guys lying, 124 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: But nevertheless, that's the stuff that happens after games, like 125 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: when you get blown out and it gets a little wonky, right. 126 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure. I mean, and you know, some organizations 127 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: are leakier than others, and you know, and and and 128 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: you know use the media as a way to kind 129 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: of test the market at times. Great, I'm not saying 130 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: that's what's happening in this situation. I don't know. 131 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm not there, And that's a good point. 132 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: The nature of the discussions, but you know, it's that's 133 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: so that you know, these are the things that like 134 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: we also have to guard against. And some sometimes you know, 135 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: other teams will use, you know, will make up stories 136 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: about other players and other trades that might be possible 137 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: to try to, you know, flesh out what someone's intention 138 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: might be. You know. So there's a lot of kind 139 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: of weaponizing the media right now, which is makes it 140 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 4: extra hard on the player, no doubt about it. 141 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 5: What a whorld. 142 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: Chris Finch, coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves Weekly nine to 143 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: now thanks to prize pick second Harvest Heartland and two 144 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: Harvest dot Org the Jazz tonight, this this Keyante George 145 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: is an underrated offensive player because he's trapped in Utah. 146 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm wondering what you think of him because his field 147 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: goal percentage and free throw attempts have gone way up 148 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: this shyear. 149 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: He just seems like he's a stone cold score. 150 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is, he is. He's really, he's really come on. 151 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: Will Hardy and his staff hasnt done an outstanding job 152 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: here in their development with some of their young players. 153 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 4: You can see him starting to really round into shape. 154 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: I think they're on the I think they're on the 155 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: on on the edge of being really competitive and good 156 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: moving forward. I think you know they're going to most 157 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: likely end up with another pretty good pick this year. 158 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: Keep adding to the young, to the young core. But 159 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 4: you know, you know, when you go through these rebuilds, 160 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: you really only need like one or two guys to 161 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: kind of really hit and then you can, you know, 162 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: build out the rest of your roster through trade or 163 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 4: free agency with guys you know around it, more experienced guys, 164 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: and it looks like, you know, it looks like they've 165 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: got certainly got one in him, and then you know 166 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 4: that happens. You know, it's just it's it's kind of 167 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 4: the normal things. Come in to the league so young 168 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: and try to figure it out, and now everything slows 169 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: down and you get stronger and you get more confidence, 170 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: and once you see that you can do it over 171 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: and over again, then that's when guys get really dangerous. 172 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 3: You You guys are a little more banged up than 173 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: usual right now, aren't you? With Nas and Rudy and 174 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 3: those games. Anthony missed a little little nicked up right now, 175 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: aren't you. 176 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are, we're going through it a bit. You know, 177 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: we're generally one of that's been one of the healthier 178 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: teams in the league over the last few years. So 179 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: all credit to our like performance staff and our guys 180 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: are taking care of themselves, you know, and obviously having 181 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: good fortune. So hope that continues. But yeah, we're going 182 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 4: through it a little bit. We got some guys a 183 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 4: little a little benned up, but uh, you know, fortunately 184 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: they they're not they don't seem to be anything of 185 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: the long term variety. 186 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: Excellent. 187 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 3: What when when Anthony doesn't play? What what's different with 188 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: your team's ball movement when the Alpha doesn't play. 189 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just it's just normal students. With 190 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: most teams around the league. Uh, you know, our pace 191 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: picks up a little bit. Uh, you know, certainly I 192 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: think our yeah, our ball movement picks up, our you know, 193 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: kind of our off ball movement picks up. We know, 194 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: we you know, we have to be a bit more 195 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: of a movement team in that regard, just because Anthony 196 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: has the ability to kind of pierce the defense and 197 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: force people into putting two or three guys on the ball, 198 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: and then that you know, opens up kickout opportunities. But 199 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: you know, we can't rely solely just on Julius to 200 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 4: do that, so pace picks up ball, movement picks up 201 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: opens up close out situations that we can attack. So 202 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 4: it's just, yeah, I think it's just kind of it's normal. 203 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 5: You know. 204 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 4: We we are pretty can be at times a pretty 205 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: IO heavy team with both Aunt and Julius, they're very 206 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: good at it. You know, we try to have a 207 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: good balance of ISO and movements. But when you're you know, 208 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: missing one of your better ISO players and you know, 209 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 4: you got to lean on the other things that you 210 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: do well. 211 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: Chris in that Spurs game, despite his elite countryman Wembin 212 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: Yama going for thirty nine all week out. With that 213 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: thirty nine too, Baron Jay had to give you twenty 214 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: three in a pinch overall. 215 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: How did he do. 216 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 4: Outstanding? He was excellent. Wow, he's been really good in 217 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: the in the minutes that he's played here in the 218 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: last couple of games. His activity, his presence at the rin, 219 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: keeping balls alive, offensive rebound, hustle play, he's running the floor, 220 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 4: or just all the things that he already does well. 221 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: You know, that's what I love about him, Like he's 222 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: just doubling down on the things that he does well. 223 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: That make him who he is. And from that, you know, 224 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: he's really helping us. He's gaining confidence and you know 225 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: he's he's bouncy. And I've always since day one, I've 226 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 4: used the word fearless. He yeah, you know, he's don't afraid. 227 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: He's unafraid of any situation, doesn't matter if he's guarding 228 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: Yard Johns or guarding Wemby or someone's coming out on 229 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 4: full speed at the rim. Like he's gonna take the challenge, right. 230 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: And then that is specifically with teenagers. Man, I'm glad 231 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: you said that is I mean, he has a chance 232 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: and and we don't generally get into conversations like this 233 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: about super young players because so much can change. But 234 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: this guy has a legitimate chance to be something special 235 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: and and and even casual basketball fans can tell he's 236 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: not afraid of anything. It's just it's going to be 237 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: really exciting to see him grow, isn't it. 238 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we are so excited about and he's 239 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: going to be you know, to your point, he got 240 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: a chance to be a special player. But you know 241 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: he's going to be really good. No doubt about his 242 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: versatility on defense. You know, he really can guard in 243 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: all switch situations, and we feel comfortably to guard you know, 244 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: point guards and and all kinds of things with his 245 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: with his you know, with his agility, his quickness is blank. 246 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: He just needs to kind of keep learning. Some of 247 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: the mistakes that he makes, they're just you know, utiful 248 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: mistakes that's expected and normal, and we're happy he's making 249 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: them because you know, he learns quick, real quick. And 250 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: that's the other thing about him and someone who's come 251 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 4: to the game late. You know, he didn't start playing 252 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: the game until but a few years ago. He's got 253 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: a good he's got a good feel, which is often 254 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: not the case, you know, and bigs that come to 255 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 4: the game late, and and he's got a really sharp 256 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: learning curve and that bodes well for his growth. 257 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: How three to go here, Thanks for the time. How 258 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: much do the how much do the analytics of the 259 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: NBA matter to you? 260 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: Uh? Quite a bit. You know, I think my guy, 261 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: my my my guiding principle on analytics p A is 262 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: you know, I use him as a guide, not a god. 263 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: You know, that's kind of like our mantra. We certainly 264 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: are steeped in the analytics. We we follow them, we understand 265 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: what they're saying and why they're saying it. But we're 266 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: not blindly doing everything that they're telling us to do, 267 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: you know. And I remember I remember having when you 268 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: introduced me to to Kevin O'Connell out in LA, Like 269 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: It's one thing that we quickly started talking about was 270 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: just like you know, kind of the lens the microscope 271 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 4: that analytics have put coaching decisions under, now, you know, 272 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: which is hard I think for them. We were talking 273 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: specifically like about fourth down choices, right, And what what 274 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: analytics can't do is they can't tell you the can 275 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: the chain reaction of events that will happen or might 276 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: happen or need to happen. They can they can predict 277 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: and tell you like you know, hey, if you if 278 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 4: you go for it on fourth down, you got to 279 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: x percent chance of winning. Well that assumes a lot 280 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: in there too, you know. So so you still got 281 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: to use your coaching, You got to use your feel, 282 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: you got to use your the knowledge of your team, 283 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: Like what are you able to accomplish? That's another thing. 284 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: It's not like what the analytics say, like you also 285 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: have to say can we do that? Like are we 286 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: good enough to be able to pull that off or 287 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: do we have to do it some other way? So 288 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: but yeah, we're I mean, right now, the league is 289 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: so analytically driven and there's a lot of good basketball 290 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: that's come out of that that if you're not playing analytically, 291 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: you know, if you're not listen, leaning into and listening 292 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: to the analytics, you're you're going to be behind the curve. 293 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: So there's just right now, there's just some baseline to 294 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: it that you have to follow and where we try 295 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: to where we really try to lean into its like 296 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: in the small pieces of the game where there's still 297 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: maybe inefficiencies that you can exploit. 298 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: All right, So just and if you don't have anything, 299 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: that's fine, But like top of the head, what what's 300 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: one analytical number or ranking with your team? Those who 301 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: don't follow no exists, but but they don't really know 302 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: what it is, but it's impressive to you. 303 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 4: So so what is an analytical rankings for us that 304 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: impresses you that we that we pride ourselves on basically, Uh, well, 305 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 4: I mean I'm big on shot selection, you know, like 306 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 4: our effective like field goal percentage and and that, and 307 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 4: how we get to that through high quality shots. You know, 308 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 4: I think that that's basically kind of underpins good offense. 309 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a hidden thing. I think it's 310 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: what everybody's striving for. But what's happened I think in 311 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: this like the league is playing faster, there's no doubt 312 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 4: about it, and people have taken more and more threes 313 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: over the last few years. But what's interesting, what I'm 314 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: finding in the analytics is that playing faster used to 315 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: mean that it led to better shots. But now people 316 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: are playing faster the sake of playing fast, and some 317 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: of those shots selection outcomes aren't the same. The same 318 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: with threes used to be able, like back in the 319 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 4: beginning of the analytics revolutionari didn't matter. Get up as 320 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 4: many three as you possibly can, and even if they're 321 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: not good threes and so. But now with everybody shooting 322 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 4: so many threes, like the volume matters a little less 323 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: and the quality matters way more. So you know, you 324 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: can shoot a higher percentage on a better quality three 325 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 4: rather than shooting a medium percentage on a high volume 326 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: of threes. It's basically like the kind of what I 327 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 4: see happening right now in the league. Just so it's 328 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: it's it's almost like the pace of the game and 329 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 4: the and the commitment to the three has kind of 330 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: out that over extended itself a little bit ye to 331 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 4: cause a little bit of inefficiency. So dial it actually like, 332 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 4: we want to play faster this year, but we're not 333 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: a really super fast team. But because teams have gotten 334 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: so good in the half court offense, like half court 335 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: offenses have become so much more efficient in the last 336 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 4: several years. You don't need to play breakneck speed just 337 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: to get good shots any longer. And that's a credit 338 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: to the coaching, the adjustment. I think a lot of 339 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: it's a reaction to the high volume of switching and offense. 340 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 4: Like just players have to play with a little bit 341 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: more nuanced to their game, you know, a little bit 342 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: more movement as we talked about earlier, and also you know, 343 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: just the skill level of the player that keeps going 344 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 4: up and off. 345 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: That was excellent. Greatly appreciate the time early in assault 346 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: Lake sitting. I tear it up against those Jazz tonight 347 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: and I'll call you soon, all. 348 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: Right, don't worries. 349 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 350 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 6: Man. 351 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: Thanks yep, seem that's a coach bench. Chris Finch, coach 352 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: of the Minnesota Timberwolves courtesy. 353 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: Of Prize Picks. 354 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 3: If you're playing some prize picks today, might want to 355 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 3: monitor those injuries until about three, four or five o'clock 356 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: for the Timberwolves. 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My win 367 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 7: some with the keyword money at kfan dot com. 368 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 3: All righty, here is longtime friend of yours, Trulies and 369 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: former Vikings quarterback in NFL MVP with the Raiders, Elite 370 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: analyst for Serious XM He's Rich Gannon and former MVP 371 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 3: joins us now MVP. 372 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. 373 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: Help, how do you always get out of going to 374 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis scouting combine? Which is quickly Which is quickly 375 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: approaching and good morning. 376 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 4: Good morning. 377 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 8: You know, truth be told. And I did it for 378 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 8: years and then, oh, I don't know, about three or 379 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 8: four years ago, I just decided that in order to 380 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 8: do it the right way, Pa, and really to cover 381 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 8: the draft, you've got to be all in. You can't 382 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 8: just watch the quarterbacks. You can't study the top ten quarterbacks. 383 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: You can't. 384 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 8: You got you gotta do it all. You got to 385 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 8: look at the offensive line and the secondary, the tight ends, 386 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 8: the kids from Saginaw State are from you know, southwest Missouri, 387 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 8: you know, anybody who's draft eligible. And for me, it 388 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 8: was just taking so much time to do it the 389 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 8: right way. I could easily looked at draft reports and 390 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 8: those type of things, but I'll be doing somebody else's work. 391 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 8: And so I just said to the guy with a 392 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 8: serious look, I'm not going to do it, and I'm 393 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 8: just going to really focus on the NFL. I'll look at, 394 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 8: obviously some of the quarterbacks that are coming out in 395 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 8: the draft and do a couple of hits, but that's 396 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 8: really my focus. I just try and focus on what 397 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 8: I know best, and that's watching the NFL each and 398 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 8: every week. 399 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: Longtime mutual friend of ours, Kevin Stefanski landed in Atlanta, 400 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: and you have to know he's super excited to be 401 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: John Robinson, isn't. 402 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 8: He He is? And you know, we exchanged some text 403 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 8: I was really disappointed to see what happened to him 404 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 8: in Cleveland, but as he said to me, hey, this 405 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 8: is the businesses that I signed up for. 406 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: We're all good. 407 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 8: You know, he and I were neighbors in Ocean City, 408 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 8: New Jersey in the summertime. Kevin, of course went to 409 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 8: my high school and was from Philadelphia, and you know 410 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 8: just how good a man he is. I'm really excited 411 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 8: for him for a couple of reasons. I think going 412 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 8: to Atlanta with an owner who's all in, who wants 413 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 8: to win right now, and Matt Ryan, I mean that relationship. 414 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 8: Matt was a colleague of minor CBS and of course 415 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 8: was a great player in the league for a long time, 416 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 8: a man of great character and integrity, and I just 417 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 8: think that. 418 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: Makes some sense. 419 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 8: And it's a good football team. I mean, you look 420 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 8: at the roster, Bijon Robinson, Kyle Pitts came on this year. 421 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 8: Drake London, You've got some good lineman and Jake Matthews 422 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 8: and Chris Winstrom. I think defensively have to continue to improve, 423 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 8: but they kept the defensive coordinator there. They have a 424 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 8: that was important. Jeff Ulbrich. The big question he's going 425 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 8: to have is the quarterback position. You know, Kirk Cousins 426 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 8: is still under contract, Michael Pennix Junior is coming off 427 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 8: his third ACL repair and you know, a question marks 428 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 8: at the quarterback are always a challenge. 429 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just had an elongated interview with 430 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: Timberwolves head coach Chris Finch, and with the NBA trading 431 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 3: deadline approaching All Star break, minds will drift a little bit, 432 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: and we were talking about like rumors and how they 433 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 3: get spread and things like that. That there are many 434 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: things to really like and respect about Kevin Stefanski. One 435 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: for me that is super high is he's the last guy. 436 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: In fact, it's a zero percenter that he's going to 437 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: contact an agent when things are really bad, or contact 438 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: a member of the media that is and be like, hey, hey, 439 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: Jimmy Haslam. And I don't know this to be true, 440 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 3: but like Jimmy Haslam forced Deshaun Watson on us, So 441 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: how am I supposed to win with this? 442 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: And then like people go with it and stuff. He's 443 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: just not that guy, you know, he's not. 444 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 8: I think a lot of it has to do with 445 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 8: his upbringing. You know, his dad, who I knew, I 446 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 8: actually his dad. I played basketball, went up against his 447 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 8: dad in high school. That's I mean, not as a 448 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 8: his dad was a coach. So you know, I just remember, 449 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 8: you know Ed Stefanski, you know, who was the former 450 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 8: vice president of you know a number of the basketball teams, 451 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 8: including the Memphis Grizzlies and I think the Raptors and Sixers. Anyway, 452 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 8: you know, I just think he grew up in a 453 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 8: in a family where you know, coaching and doing the 454 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 8: right thing and and you know, I mean all the 455 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 8: colleges and tintenduals he looked for and good people. I 456 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 8: think Kevin has that. I think Kevin cares about his staff. 457 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 8: I think he cares about his players. I think the 458 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 8: players know that and play hard for him. I think 459 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 8: he was a situation in Cleveland in the last couple 460 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 8: of years. They didn't have the quarterback. They're trying to 461 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 8: develop two young quarterbacks. Look how hard that defense played 462 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 8: last year for them, And you know it's tough. You know, 463 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 8: this is a we just fired. This is the crazy number. 464 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 8: And pe I know you're aware of this. Forty six 465 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 8: coaches in six seasons, that's how many we have fired. 466 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 8: In the NFL. We've just whacked ten this year, and 467 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 8: they're all getting fired for mostly the same reason. If 468 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 8: you don't have the trigger, if you don't have production 469 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 8: consistency at the quarterback position, you're you're gonna get fired. 470 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 8: And these owners are less and less patient. And that's 471 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 8: just the way it is. And I think Kevin's very 472 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 8: aware of that. I think he goes to a situation 473 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 8: where he's got to get the quarterback situation figured out. 474 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 8: It's a very winnable division. 475 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: I think that. I think the future is bright for Kevin. 476 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: Stefanski is the head coach in our game. 477 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: Well, then then you get the Buffalo situation with McDermott. 478 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not you know, it's when when you 479 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: lose that much in the postseason and you can't get 480 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: over a certain hump. Yeah, they have the right to 481 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: move on, for sure. But when you see the general 482 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: manager get elevated with his job and like get more 483 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: power than the coaches out that that just, yeah, it 484 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: gets a little gets a little seed because he has 485 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 3: the quarterback man in Josh Allen, so I guess that one. 486 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 8: So they've had two Pro Bowl players since they drafted 487 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 8: Josh Allen and just just another quick tibot on Sew McDermot, who, 488 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 8: by the way, is another Philly guy, went to Wells 489 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 8: Out High School. Think about this, ninety eight wins and 490 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 8: nine seasons. His last seven seasons, he's had ten or 491 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 8: more wins. I mean in that last seven seasons, he's 492 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 8: had three thirteen win seasons. He's got a twelve win season, 493 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 8: he's had two eleven one seasons. You had a ten 494 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 8: win season. I mean they've dominated the AFC East and 495 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 8: you know, you look the postseason record eight and eight, 496 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 8: but the four losses to Kansas City, and they too 497 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 8: won the championship round two in the divisional round of course, 498 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 8: losing to Denver. I mean, your quarter I love Josh Allen, 499 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 8: you know what I feel about this guy, but you 500 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 8: know he turned it over four times. They put the 501 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 8: ball on the ground five times in that game, and 502 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 8: you know we fired the head coach. That's just a crazy, 503 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 8: crazy part of our business right now. 504 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: MVP's firing bullets. 505 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: Rich Gannon, former Vikings quarterback NFL MVP with Denver and Skidam. 506 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: How did they make sure players and coaches don't freak 507 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 3: out all week or early in the game because there's 508 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 3: not the regular guy. 509 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 8: I would suggest that the Broncos won't lose this game 510 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 8: because the Jareds did him. They may not win it 511 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 8: because of him either, if that makes any sense. I 512 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 8: think he's going to be fine. Look, I've known the guy. 513 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 8: He spent a year with the Raiders and so I 514 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 8: got a chance to do all the preseason games and 515 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 8: get to know him little bit. He spent a couple 516 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 8: of seasons in Knowy, England. Josh McDaniels brought him to 517 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 8: the Raiders. 518 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 4: That's how much. That's how highly he thought about him. 519 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 8: And then three years ago Sean Payton actually traded for him. 520 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 8: People don't they traded for him. He did the research 521 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 8: on him. Sean really liked to come out of Auburn. 522 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 8: You know, he's been with the organization for three years. 523 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 8: He knows the system. He's played well in the preseason. 524 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 8: He's only got four career starts, he's played in twenty games. 525 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 8: But I suspect to go out there, the game plan 526 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 8: up change a little bit. He doesn't have the creativity 527 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 8: and the ability to kind of, you know, make plays 528 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 8: with his legs as much as Bo Nicks. And so 529 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 8: I think some of the schedule throw as you won't see. 530 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 8: But I think Sean's gonna build a game plan around 531 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 8: what he does, what he does well, and they'll they'll 532 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 8: they'll take their chances. 533 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: Is excuse me, Is Sean Payton considered one of the 534 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: great offensive minds in the history of the game, not recently, 535 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: but like in the history of the game. Or has 536 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: his cheating and sometimes arrogant approach to things hampered your opinion. 537 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 8: It's not. It's not everybody's cup of tea. I will 538 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 8: say that he is really really good at what he does, 539 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 8: not only as a as a head coach and as 540 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 8: a play caller. But I just think it is messaging 541 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 8: to the football team. And people don't always like his 542 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 8: press conferences. He can come off kind of brash and 543 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 8: but once you get to know Sean, he's all in. 544 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 8: He's a very likable guy and he's done an amazing job. 545 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 8: Think about this. He made the decision and the organization 546 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 8: to move on from Russell Wilson. At the time, people 547 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 8: wasn't a very popular decision. This season alone, Russell Wilson 548 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 8: is a on for twelve over twelve percent of their 549 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 8: salary cap, more than any player on the team. But 550 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 8: they made the decision, and they they took bow knicks 551 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 8: and they liked them. And he's won twenty four games 552 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 8: in his first two seasons in Denver and let him 553 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 8: to the playoffs in each of the last two seasons. 554 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 8: I just think John's done a great job. He's a 555 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 8: really really good coach and maybe even. 556 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: Better play color. 557 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: What's the coldest outdoor game you ever played in? 558 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: And how did it go? 559 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 8: So the tough roll game wasn't really bad because you know, 560 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 8: when you get snow, it's not normally you know, sub 561 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 8: zero type temperatures. You know, it wasn't that bad as 562 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 8: windy the quarterbacks to win, that could affect them even 563 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 8: more than the snow, I would suggest. And again I 564 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 8: didn't really play in this game. I remember when I 565 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 8: was with the Vikings, we played in Cleveland, the old 566 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 8: Cleveland Stadium. I think Wade was playing. It was Wade Wilson. 567 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 8: I mean, Tommy was still not playing. But I just 568 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 8: remember my rookie year. I believe and I stood there 569 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 8: on the sidelines and I absolutely froze. I mean, he 570 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 8: was about the cold most had ever been. I remember 571 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 8: Hostan Jones got a bite in his in his toe. 572 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 8: He was really bad. It was really bad, so that 573 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 8: that would probably be the worst. But you know, you 574 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 8: just got to find a way to do it. You know, 575 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 8: you got to find a way to put the right 576 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 8: the right clothing on and go out there and cover 577 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 8: your you know, cover yourself up where you can and 578 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 8: keep your hands warm. And the problem is the ball 579 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 8: gets the ball could be like it can be as 580 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 8: fart as a rock. I mean, that was the big 581 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 8: reason why Brady let them ariaut of the ball, because 582 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 8: you could you could, you know, you could grip it 583 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 8: a little bit better. 584 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: So I wish I would have thought. 585 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: Of that, right. 586 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 3: Rich spent the first six years of his career here 587 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: with the Minnesota Vikings, then went to Washington when the 588 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: Vikes went to Jim McMahon. Now, now, Rich, MVP, you'd 589 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: only played Minnesota one time the final eleven years of 590 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: your career. That was in ninety nine at Metrodome and 591 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: you and the Raiders won the game. 592 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: So like at that stage, did. 593 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: You still want Did you still want to stick it 594 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: to the team to let you go even though it 595 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: was like a half decade plus later. 596 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: Oh for sure, because I. 597 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 8: Looked over there, I saw Danny Green and who you know, 598 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 8: wasn't the kindest to me. So I mean, yeah, And 599 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 8: I think anytime you play against your former team, whether 600 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 8: you left on good terms or bad terms, it doesn't 601 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 8: really matter. It's your former team. If you feel in 602 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 8: your heart of hearts that you know they didn't want you, 603 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 8: they didn't keep you, They like somebody better. And I 604 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 8: just think that you know you want to. I just know, 605 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 8: not just myself, but other players. When you get a 606 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 8: chance to go against your former team, it's a different week. 607 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 8: It's got a different feeling to it, you know. I mean, 608 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 8: it's like it's almost like a homecoming. 609 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: Game for you. 610 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 8: And and typically we see players play play their best 611 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 8: in those type of situations. 612 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: Back to the Bills in the Broncos for a second, 613 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: excuse me, the the Broncos and the AFC title game. 614 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: They the Bills ran really well on that Denver defense, 615 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: and that could be big for New England right. 616 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 4: Well, it could be. 617 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 8: And I just think, you know, you look at you 618 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 8: look at this Denver defense and they led the league 619 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 8: in sacks, the leg and pressures and quarterback hits they 620 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 8: get after you haven't been as good when it comes 621 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 8: to the run. I think when you look at the 622 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 8: Patriots that they've got two backs that are very talented 623 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 8: that can slam the ball downhill. And they're a little 624 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 8: bit different. 625 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: You know. 626 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 8: You look at Anderson's a little more speed de bounce runs. 627 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 8: You look at Stevenson, he's the bigger, more physical between 628 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 8: the tackles. Fact, both are really good in the passing game. 629 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 8: And I would throw in there to Drake May. I mean, 630 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 8: Drake May can hurt you with his legs as well. 631 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 8: So this is going to be a good challenge. 632 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 4: Mike. 633 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 8: Mike Vrabel has done an amazing job getting that they won. 634 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 8: They were a four win team a year ago and 635 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 8: you look at the success this year, thirteen wins. I 636 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 8: think Mike Rabel will most likely be the NFL Coach 637 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 8: of the Year. 638 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. A couple more here for 639 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: Rich Cannon, former NFL MVP. The Rams better be careful. 640 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to be a tough NFC title game, 641 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: but don't you think the Seattle defense, I mean it's 642 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: dramatically better than Chicago's, right, Oh for sure. 643 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 8: Look you look at everyone's talked last couple of weeks 644 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 8: anyway about the Houston defense. We look at the Seattle defense. 645 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 8: I mean they're the number one scoring defense in the 646 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 8: league right now. I mean they have been dominant. I 647 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 8: think when you look at the job that the general manager, 648 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 8: John Schneider is down with player acquisition, whether it's trades, 649 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 8: whether it's free agency, whether it's the draft. I mean, 650 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 8: this is a really good defense. They come downhill, they 651 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 8: can rush the passer, they can stop the run. They've 652 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 8: got good speed, good good team speed defensively, and you know, 653 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 8: you got what I love is you got the number 654 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 8: one scoring offense in the NFL, the Rams at thirty 655 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 8: and a half points a game. In the Sea off 656 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 8: at the number one scoring defense, you get seventeen point 657 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 8: two points a game. Something's got to give on Sunday, all. 658 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: Right, Kala Williams. 659 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: Uh. 660 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: Clearly a huge step for the young man rich this year, 661 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: but still some key stuff to improve, right, No question. 662 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 8: I think when you first of all, youve go back 663 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 8: to last year. I was impressed by a couple of things. First, 664 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 8: the kid took He got sacked sixty eight times, more 665 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 8: than any quarterback in Lake last year, and he played 666 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 8: in every game, So that showed me some toughness. And 667 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 8: then the other thing is he didn't really turn it 668 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 8: over much as first I think he had six six interceptions, 669 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 8: So he took care of the football. He held onto 670 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 8: it way too long. Ben Johnson comes in. They got 671 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 8: that part of it correct. 672 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: He got rid of the ball. 673 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 8: He did a little bit better. The one thing that 674 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 8: he still they stuff to work on. It'll be a 675 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 8: big point of emphasis in the off season program. His 676 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 8: completion percentage was the worst among the thirty three qualified 677 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 8: quarterbacks in the NFL. And even if you look at 678 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 8: the game against the Rams, you know he missed it. 679 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 8: He goes twenty three or forty two Pa. There's there's 680 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 8: eight or nine throws where he's throwing the ball downfield 681 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 8: on first and ten five seven yards over the intended 682 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 8: receiver and he's got a back or a tight end 683 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 8: right there in the flash for a five or seven 684 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 8: yard game. And you know, Jerry Burns used always say 685 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 8: you never go broke taking profit. Not every not every 686 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 8: meal has to be you know, he he doesn't have to. 687 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 4: Be the buffet. 688 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 8: We can you know, we can, we can, we can 689 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 8: be a little bit more discipline. I think that's the 690 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 8: big thing with him. He's got a big appetite for 691 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 8: the big play. Yeah, and he has to understand that 692 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 8: every play, you know, every play matters in the NFL. 693 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 8: He's wasted way too many plays. And you go back 694 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 8: and look at his body work this year. A lot 695 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 8: of improvement, a lot of good things to like in 696 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 8: his game, but the completion percentage not in anywhere where it. 697 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 4: Needs to be. 698 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 3: Last lad Donald and that o'blake only had to throw 699 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: twelve times against the Niners. How long from what you know, 700 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 3: how long does it take for a nobleak to properly heal? 701 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 2: And what does MVP think about all that? 702 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 8: See, it could take several weeks. It depends upon the 703 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 8: severity of the strain. I thought he went out there 704 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 8: last week. I thought they were smart and what they 705 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 8: did with him during the week. He didn't have to 706 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 8: do much against the forty Niners. They dominated the forty 707 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 8: Niners the last few times they've played them. Look, I 708 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 8: think he's going to be fine. I think there's a 709 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 8: number of examples on tape where you see him moving 710 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 8: around a little bit to his right, to his left 711 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 8: throwing the football. He's a tough guy, you know that 712 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 8: about him. I'm so happy for Sam Donald Pa. You know, 713 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 8: here's a guy who's kicked to the curb not once, 714 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 8: but two or three times, and you know it, gets 715 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 8: a chance to play for the Vikings last year. Now 716 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 8: he leaves a team to fourteen wins. This year, he's 717 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 8: got a chance to play for a trip to the 718 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 8: super Bowl this Sunday. 719 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: MVP, you're the best. Thanks for the time. Have a 720 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 2: great brother. 721 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 3: Yep, love you too, Call you soon. See you about 722 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: Rich Cannon, former MVP of the NFL, former Vikings quarterback. 723 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: Let's uh. 724 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 3: Let's head over to uh the other in the fish 725 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 3: Bowl of Ultimate team games. UH hockey in the Minnesota Wild. 726 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: It's time to drop the pot. 727 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: Just blasted Austin Matthews and Toronto last night. We're gonna 728 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: go on north of the Border and chat with Radio 729 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: Joe after that. 730 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 6: Frank Ruby mayp Leef's head coach, Yanking Hildeby, who came 731 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 6: in to play this third period, hasn't been beaten yet 732 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 6: by the while Toronto, the only two goals in the third, 733 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 6: sturbing his own Spotify Sarah say, another chance of the 734 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 6: empty nettle hit the red light clods in the Filino. 735 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 2: He's got an empty kg for the hat trick. 736 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 7: He's gone what two thirty eight to go in Toronto? 737 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: Marcus Felino with the hat trick? Hello, Wild, I have 738 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 2: a six to three league. 739 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 3: Hey fucks Joe o'donald on the call last evening, he 740 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: joins us. Now they called the Wilds thrashing of the 741 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 3: Toronto maple Leafs last night on KFAM at Wild Joe 742 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: Radio for his tweets and the morning's skate minute, which 743 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 3: undoubtedly comes up later today. Previewing tonight on the Fan 744 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 3: against Maulray aw and Radio, Joe joins us, Now, Joe, 745 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: would you prefer I call you Joe O'Donnell Joe Radio 746 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 3: Radio Joe or maybe Budsy? 747 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: Can you be Budsy for the for the balance of 748 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: this interview? 749 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 5: Oh man, whatever whatever works, PA, appreciate you having me on. Well, 750 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 5: as long as it's half respectful. 751 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 4: I'll be fine with it. 752 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: But you know, recently I was texting with Alex Staylock 753 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: and yeah, that's worse. That's where Budsy comes from, all right, Yeah, 754 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 3: Marcus Felino speaking of old guys, Alex Staylock, Marcus Fellino. 755 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: When the old guys who who stick up for everybody 756 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 3: on the ice accomplish something unique, I mean, that just 757 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 3: seems so extra special. And Fellino earned the first hat 758 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 3: trick of his career last night in his nine hundred 759 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: and fifteenth game. 760 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: That just that must have been so fun to call. 761 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was pretty cool. And you know, as you 762 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: know he puts it into the empty net, I start 763 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 5: rifling through the game notes because I'm like, this might 764 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 5: be his first, you know, and I meant to look 765 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 5: it up a few minutes prior. So that's on me 766 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 5: for not having been a touch more prepared for that. 767 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 5: But it's pretty cool, man. I know he's you know, 768 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 5: he's a fan favor for a lot of reasons. And 769 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 5: inside that locker room, I know what that guy means 770 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 5: to that group. And you know, you look at just 771 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 5: the other night, you know, the other day in Buffalo, 772 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 5: Quid Hughes got wrapped up with kessel Rig of the Sabers, 773 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 5: and you know, Felino comes right over defend him. They 774 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 5: get unsportunate penalties, had two minutes expired and they drop 775 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 5: the gloves. And that's the type of guy he is. 776 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 5: He doesn't need to fight every night, but when he does, 777 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 5: you know it's going to be a heavyweight bout. You know, 778 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 5: he's not going to push around out there. And so 779 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 5: some nights, you know, Fellino's a guy that might just 780 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 5: have six hits in a shot on goal, kill some penalties, 781 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 5: and some nights he's gonna do what he did last night, 782 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 5: which gets the front of the net and just be 783 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 5: an absolute menace for the Toronto make beliefs, and so 784 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 5: good for him. One of the best guys you'll come across, 785 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 5: not only in this lineup, but I think across the NHL. 786 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 5: He's so well respected. Obviously, his brother Nick in Chicago 787 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 5: is pretty much cut from that same cloth. And to 788 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 5: have his dad there last night, uh, and to have 789 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 5: this road trip start in his hometown of Buffalo and 790 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 5: then move on just north to the were there in 791 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 5: Toronto and them score four goals in two games and 792 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 5: this team win both of them, pretty cool stuff. 793 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 3: I mean, his dad has to make the Montreal game tonight, right, 794 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 3: I hope. So yeah, he's having a great time, those 795 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 3: family photos and everything they're putting on social media. Radio Joe, Well, 796 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: it's a road game and Moose has the hat trick. 797 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: Were there any hats on the ice after the empty night? 798 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, there were a handful of which is pretty special too. 799 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 5: And I will say this, and it's not gonna be 800 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 5: a shock to many of the people listening to Great 801 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 5: State of Hockey, but every single time we're on the road, 802 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 5: it's amazing to me the amount of Wild fans to travel. 803 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 5: I don't know if some are kind of local, right, 804 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 5: they are Wild fans for a different reason, or maybe 805 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 5: they moved from Minnesota to where the Wild happened to 806 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 5: be playing that night, or they're just traveling hardcore fans. 807 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 5: I bumped at this of a Damon Hunts family last 808 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 5: night on the concourse. That was a little bit of 809 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 5: a debt giveaway. Pa. You know, two Damon Hunt jerseys 810 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 5: in Toronto and the concourse. I'm like, all right, this 811 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 5: has got to be family. No offense to Damon Hunt, 812 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 5: but he's only got a handful of NHL games, right, 813 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 5: So that was pretty cool to catch up with them, 814 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 5: including one family member that flew in from Calgary on 815 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 5: a red eye to get there. You know, there are 816 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 5: a couple Ontario boys and Ben Jones and Hunter Hate 817 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 5: on the wild roster that haven't played a ton in 818 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 5: the NHL and they had a chance to play in 819 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 5: their home province. And I'm sure tonight Montreal will be 820 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 5: you know, it's wild sweaters all over the building and 821 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 5: it's really cool to see. 822 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 2: And pretty cool. 823 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 3: Tarasenko also was sitting on a hat trick and he 824 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 3: passed to Marcus for his first. It's it's it's the 825 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 3: little things. I mean, not only in life or sports, 826 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 3: but especially hockey. Man, it's just the little things that 827 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 3: that stand out, Right, I think. 828 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 5: It tells you a lot about taras Ango. It's twice 829 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 5: now this season he's done that. He gave up an 830 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 5: empty netter from Nico Sturm to get a goal a 831 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 5: handful of weeks back, and I thought Tarasenko last night 832 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 5: maybe had, you know, if not his best game in 833 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 5: a wild sweater, a second or third best game. It 834 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 5: just felt like he had a little extra step, a 835 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 5: little extra juice in the tank. We don't always see 836 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 5: that from the thirty four year old. Right, He's at 837 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 5: a stage in his career where not that he ever 838 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 5: blazed up and down the ice, but he's not often 839 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 5: pushing the play offensively. You know, he's a shooter. He's 840 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 5: a sniper. He's a good two hundred foot player. John 841 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 5: Hines has talked about that all year long, like, you 842 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 5: don't have to worry about it. Cheat. He gave defensively 843 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 5: no matter where he's at in his career, so he 844 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 5: does bring a lot to the table. I thought that 845 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 5: was really cool and he didn't realize it was Fellino's 846 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 5: first hat trick. When I had him all the post 847 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 5: game show in Kfan and the Wild Radio Network, I. 848 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 4: Brought it up to him. 849 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 5: I said, hey, that was pretty unselfish. Vy. He tried 850 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 5: it the first time for the Redline, he missed the net, 851 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 5: so you know, he kind of laughed like a first 852 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 5: time I missed. The second time, I figured I'd give 853 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 5: it to him, but he had no idea that was 854 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 5: Felino's first hat trick in nine hundred plus games. So 855 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 5: just this of Taraseko to what a dish to park 856 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 5: to Moose and for Moose to just be able to 857 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 5: tap that thing in and wild skate away with a 858 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 5: doubling up of a really good Toronto team, that's pretty impressive. 859 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 3: Joe O'Donnell, the play by play voice for the Wild 860 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 3: on the radio, Fuck I loved Budsy at Wild Joe Radio. 861 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 3: The social medium the Wild r is like skating fire 862 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: extinguishers right now. I mean they cooled out Buffalo, which 863 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 3: you won fifteen to seventeen, and Toronto was on a 864 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 3: nine to one and three run and just got smashed. So, like, 865 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 3: what change since that Thursday night we saw each other 866 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 3: against Winnipeg. 867 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 5: I just think sometimes the team needs to get a 868 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 5: little bit of a reset, you know, And you'll hear 869 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 5: coaches talk about a PA like you might be on 870 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 5: a five game winning streak, but at the tail end 871 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 5: of that your game's got perfect, you might be losing 872 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 5: four or five in a row. You need to bottom out. 873 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 5: And not that either of those things necessarily happened with 874 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 5: the Wild, but it just felt like gave up too 875 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 5: many goals in that home stand, situational play, goals against 876 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 5: the final shift of a period, goals coming off of 877 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 5: face offs, maybe took a penalty or two they shouldn't have, 878 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 5: and some of that situational stuff is one area that 879 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 5: I know John Hines is still hoping this team improves 880 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 5: on like what makes you from a good team into 881 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 5: a championship caliber team, and some of those small details 882 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 5: within the game, they weren't really there on that home stand. 883 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 5: And sometimes when you lose players, can you get a 884 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 5: little bit of a reality check, like, Hey, if we 885 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 5: don't go back to playing the right way, if we 886 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 5: don't check up ice properly, if we're not dialed into 887 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 5: the system, playing the structure, we're gonna have a tough 888 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 5: road trip, right because you look on paper, Wild are 889 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 5: missing three of their top four scorers, five of their 890 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 5: best players. It's like, Okay, it's kind to buckle up here, 891 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 5: or this could be a long trip. And I feel 892 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 5: like the Wild have had that approach. They've caught a 893 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 5: couple of teams probably looking on paper, gone, oh, this 894 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 5: will be an easy night. Minnesota's without some of their stars. 895 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 5: And when you check the right way in this league, 896 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 5: when you get contributions up and down the line up, 897 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 5: mixing a good saver to a timely saver or two 898 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 5: and do the little things, well, you've got a chance 899 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 5: to beat anybody. And I think that's what the Wild 900 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 5: done the first two games they've really played solid, They've 901 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 5: gotten pucks in the net, They've got bodies in the net. 902 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 5: I know those are cliches, but just look at the tape. 903 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 5: That's what they're doing right now. Last night they made 904 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 5: the Maple Leaves defend a ton. You know, Austin Matthews 905 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 5: did not have a huge impact on that game. And 906 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 5: when you can play like that on the road, play 907 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 5: that greasy game, you're gonna give yourself a chance. 908 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 3: Faber and Hughes, they're just becoming so amazing together. I mean, yeah, 909 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 3: each had two assists last night and we're on the 910 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: ice for almost all of the six calls. I think 911 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 3: Hughes four, Fabor five. What would you deduce that those 912 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: two are going to play together a bunch for the 913 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 3: USA at the Olympics, I mean, because that would be sweet. 914 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 915 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 5: I think they I think they almost have to. I mean, 916 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: I know John Hines is ass last night by one 917 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 5: of the Toronto reporters about and of course he has 918 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,959 Speaker 5: defer to Mike Sullivan, the head coach of Team USA. 919 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 5: Heines will be on the bench. But I think they'd 920 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 5: be crazy to do anything else. 921 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 4: Now. 922 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 5: With that said, last year in the Four Nations brought 923 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 5: Faber played with Jacob Slavin of the Carolina Hurricanes and 924 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 5: they were rock stars. I think it speaks a favor 925 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 5: and really, when you're at a tournament setting like that 926 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 5: with great players playing with great players like you could 927 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 5: probably find almost anybody to pair up well. But I'd 928 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 5: be stunned if game one, if they're both healthy in Milan, 929 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 5: that it's not favor and huge. They just they compliment 930 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 5: each other so well. They both play with such extreme confidence. 931 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 5: What Quinn Hughes has done for this hockey team, it's 932 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 5: hard to put in the words. It's it has been 933 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 5: a jolt of energy that seems to have affected everybody. 934 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 5: If he makes a mistake, he quickly recovers and usually 935 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 5: will go out the next shift and just make them 936 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 5: an even more dynamic play. And as you said, they're 937 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 5: playing almost half the game and last night first half 938 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 5: of back to back. Their minutes, by their standards, are 939 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 5: pretty manageable. Usually Hughes is twenty nine to thirty minutes 940 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 5: a game, favors of twenty eight something. I think they're 941 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 5: both in like the twenty five or twenty sixth rage 942 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 5: And I know it's not a huge drop off of 943 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 5: the eating in the third the while we're able to, 944 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 5: you know, get him an extra shift or two and 945 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 5: playing him back to back, which a while will be 946 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 5: doing tonight. Hopefully that helps him out. 947 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Montreal tonight on KFA and at six o'clock 948 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 3: the the wild of beating the Canadians nine consecutive and 949 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 3: seventeen to the last eighteen? 950 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: Are are you? 951 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 3: I mean it's a back to back and you're shorthanded 952 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 3: with the injuries. Are you expecting a victory tonight? 953 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised. I think it'll come down you know, 954 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 5: probably one thing, and that's yes for falsetead. You know, 955 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 5: all anticipation would be he gets to start in a 956 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 5: second of back to back. He is he has struggled 957 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 5: a little bit by that lofty bar he kind of 958 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 5: set for himself over that six week run, knowing yes, 959 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 5: for the way he competes, the way he practices, the 960 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 5: way he prepares. He's gotten a couple of days off 961 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 5: now some time on the ice with Freddie schabat the 962 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 5: goaltending coach. I'm thinking he'll be as jacked up as 963 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 5: possible for a game, his first ever start at Bell Center. 964 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 5: I really think it'll come down to if he plays well, 965 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 5: he'll give the chance. The while the chance and Douay 966 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 5: Minnesota's been scoring goals, I'd expect it to be a 967 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 5: little bit of a higher scoring affair because Montreal can 968 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 5: certainly fill it up. I think they're fourth to the 969 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 5: late and goal scored, so it should be a fun one. 970 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 5: In The crowd in Montreal is always buzzing. They respect 971 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 5: the game, they know the game so well. They cheer 972 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 5: the little things like the fans of Minnesota, which I 973 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 5: always appreciate. And I think it should be a fun game. 974 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 5: And I think the Wild if all Stead's ready, certainly 975 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 5: have a chance to. 976 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 3: Sweep the trip Toronto and Montreal is is there a 977 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 3: different feel in the building when calling games at Original 978 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 3: six destinations? 979 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought you were actually gonna maybe differ the 980 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 5: two and like last night Toronto and you've heard this, 981 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 5: I'm sure, Like I don't want to say it's a 982 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 5: corporate field because they can get loud, but you know 983 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 5: those aren't cheap tickets. Those are you know, the restaurant 984 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 5: downstairs costs you a pretty penny to access. I mean there, 985 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 5: it's kind of high end in Toronto, right and and 986 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 5: in Montreal, it feels like in my experience there that 987 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 5: you know that they are they are. The crowd rises 988 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 5: when there's a run, like when Lane Hudson has to 989 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 5: palk tonight. If he goes and kind of a Quinn 990 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 5: Hughes type rush up the ice, that place will be buzzing, 991 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 5: like the electricity is kind of palpable. Toronto, And to 992 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 5: your point, all these original six buildings, they are into 993 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 5: the game. The boo birds won't hesitate to come out. 994 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 5: They're on the officials. You see the banners hanging in 995 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 5: these arenas, the retired numbers, the championships won. It's it's 996 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 5: definitely always a different vibe, the crowds there early. So 997 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 5: that kind of goes for all those Canadian venues if 998 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,720 Speaker 5: I'm being honest, but U there is a little difference 999 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 5: between Montreal and Toronto. And I think a lot of 1000 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 5: players would tell you in the staff members like Montreal 1001 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 5: might be the coolest building in the most excitable road 1002 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 5: building to go to, especially up in cana just because 1003 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 5: of the history and just how engaged the crowd of me. 1004 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 5: If it's not number one, it's definitely top five. 1005 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 3: Have you time for a couple more have have you 1006 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 3: had on this trip? Toronto and malrel Oh Buffalo too, 1007 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 3: So therefore it's been a quasi extended trip. Have you 1008 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 3: had any new personal low rounds of Golden Team on. 1009 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 2: This road trip? 1010 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 5: I love how you do your homework. 1011 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1012 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 5: I did not have success like I would have liked 1013 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 5: in Toronto, didn't get in one in Buffalo. Played fairly 1014 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 5: well in Toronto, but some of the staff here, of 1015 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 5: course the morning after will remind me that I may 1016 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 5: not have been the leader on the leader board. 1017 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 3: Is there a Golden Tee tour where like in the 1018 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 3: off season, you can actually make money at this? 1019 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,439 Speaker 5: Well, so here's the deal. 1020 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 4: This is. 1021 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 5: This has just been a this year's thing as far 1022 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 5: as the traveling party, the digital team, social media, TV crew, 1023 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 5: whoever happens to be out. It's set establishment, you know, 1024 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 5: having a burger and drinking water and the Golden Tee 1025 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 5: just it started the first game in Saint Louis, well 1026 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 5: the night before the first game obviously, and pretty much 1027 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 5: since then. Like if we're in a city and we've 1028 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 5: got a group out, we'll try to find a Golden 1029 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 5: Team play eighteen and there's an all time leaderboard I'm 1030 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 5: probably somewhere in the mix, but I have just one 1031 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 5: win under my belt, sadly, and geez, I will cherish 1032 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 5: that moment. 1033 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 2: Hey, what's kg Kevin Gorg? 1034 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 5: What is it? 1035 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 3: What's Gorge like on the trip with his Broncos hosting 1036 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game. 1037 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 5: Well, he's an emotional mess most times when it comes 1038 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,720 Speaker 5: to anything that he has a rooting interest in. Yes, 1039 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 5: writing them off. You know, second drive of the game 1040 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 5: the other night is were on the airplane heading to Toronto. 1041 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 5: They have a thirteen point leady not confidence, you know, 1042 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 5: Josh Allen's done this before, the whole nine yards. Then 1043 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 5: they win the guys through the roof in his Broncos hat, 1044 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 5: and then he finds out his quarterback broke his ankle. 1045 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,479 Speaker 5: So the sun came up for Kevin Gorg. Yep, he'll 1046 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 5: be working the Frost game on Sunday, so he won't 1047 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 5: have to sweat as much over as Broncos and Jared Stidham. 1048 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 5: But jeez, I think he did PA, and you might 1049 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 5: confirm this with him. I think he watched a few 1050 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 5: either YouTube highlights or a cutup of Jared's did him 1051 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 5: at some point of the sixth NFL passes he's thrown 1052 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,439 Speaker 5: over the last five years. But I think he's he's 1053 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 5: talking himself into the Broncos at least hanging around on Sunday. 1054 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he in Toronto. He may 1055 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 3: have purchased blue and Orange Calligorafy pens pens to to 1056 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 3: like write out of Jared's didham bio, just to be 1057 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 3: ready for it for this weekend. 1058 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1059 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 5: And by the way, well, hey, I was just going 1060 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,359 Speaker 5: to say he appreciated the tweet by the great Nick 1061 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 5: Foles taking a shot at the Patriots, and I as 1062 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 5: well obviously appreciated that one. 1063 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 3: All right, And I know you know this, but Heinzy 1064 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 3: the coach John is a Pats van So I wonder 1065 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 3: if I wonder if KG and the head coach are 1066 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 3: going to do any trash talking before that game Sunday. 1067 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 5: Well, I think they will because heines. He's kind of 1068 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 5: sneaky like that, Like you know, I don't know how 1069 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 5: he found out. I'm sure I could guess, like he 1070 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 5: knows that I root for the Eagles, and so I'm 1071 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 5: sure he's on the gork radar there with the Broncos thing. 1072 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,800 Speaker 5: So I think today when we get our little broadcast 1073 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 5: huddle up in a few hours. I might stir the 1074 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 5: pop there and get that going a little bit. 1075 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 3: All right, Budzy, great job on the radio last night, man, 1076 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 3: that sounded like a fun one. And we'll be listening 1077 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 3: tonight on KFAM. 1078 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 5: Thank you, Joe, all right, thanks too. 1079 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 2: Much, see you. 1080 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 3: But that's Budzy, I mean Joe O'Donnell calls Minnesota Wild 1081 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 3: games in in fantastic fashion on KFAM, Fox and the 1082 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 3: bast and never expanding Minnesota Wild or radio network at 1083 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 3: Wild Joe Radio va X follow if you are so 1084 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 3: inclined back to football around the corner, It's KFA