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Speaker 2: It is indeed that time again. Don't forget Lavelle. We'll

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Speaker 2: probably join approximately five thirty tonight. You tease, she had

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Speaker 2: a heck of a tease. You want to work up

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Speaker 2: to the twins party want to get I think we

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Speaker 2: got to get right to it. We did it at

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Speaker 2: Shields remember a couple of days ago. No, but we

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Speaker 2: talked about I think it was Bob Nightingale, right, the

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Speaker 2: dad the senior that had reported that the twins were

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Speaker 2: looking around or talking, reading some things, seeing deciding what

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Speaker 2: do we do with these pictures?

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Speaker 3: What do we do with Byron Buxton. I think that

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Speaker 3: was even a different report. Kenny Rosenthal steps in. We

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Speaker 3: led the Top five and five on Tuesday with that,

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Speaker 3: if you recall at Shields correct. Here's Kenny Rosenthal from

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Speaker 3: the Athletic. I'm reading this with one of my two subscriptions,

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Speaker 3: not sure which one. The twins do not anticipate moving

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Speaker 3: centerfielder Byron Buxton or right handers Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez.

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Speaker 3: According to league sources briefed on their plans, Minnesota's goal

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Speaker 3: is to keep those players, build around them and compete

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Speaker 2: So who who is saying this? Ken Rosenthal? Oh, so

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Speaker 2: of days ago I just quoted started the show with it.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Thursday, wasn't it that they didn't

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Speaker 2: know what they were doing? That? Not only so we

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Speaker 2: read that, yeah, and called him. They got inspired, So

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Speaker 3: Read that warding again on the on the Buxton part,

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Speaker 3: The Twins do not anticipate moving centerfielder Byron Buxton or

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Speaker 3: right handers Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez, acording to the

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Speaker 3: league sources briefed on their plans. Okay, Minnesota's goal is

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Speaker 3: to keep those players, build around them, and compete in

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's very carefully worded. Is that some spielman needs

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Speaker 2: a little bit anticipated intent? They have no you know,

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Speaker 2: they have no equity. I'm sorry, I mean I like

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Speaker 3: By the way, finances presumably remain an issue, but trades

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Speaker 3: of players such as Ryan and Buckston would further alienate

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think so. Can it be further alienated?

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Speaker 2: I it'd be hard to at this point, but I

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Speaker 2: interrupted John. No, it's just it's obvious that it's hard

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Speaker 2: to believe them. Is it possible that is their intent

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Speaker 2: if people are skeptical or dubious, they have only themselves

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Speaker 2: to blame because they have been so secretive and non

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Speaker 2: it that hard to speak out loud without being asked

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Speaker 2: by a reporter? Responding with reporters said to say, guys,

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Speaker 2: here's where we are. You never say never in this business.

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Speaker 2: You never know exactly what's gonna be put in front

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Speaker 2: our desire is to go forward with several of the players,

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Speaker 2: and that you can still leave yourself the out Well,

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Speaker 2: in the vacuum when there's void there. They have more

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Speaker 3: You are Minnesota Timberwolves last night completed the always difficult

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Speaker 3: I do remember the Indiana Purdue Indiana two step used

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Speaker 2: Well, step one complete for Nico, mission accomplish.

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Speaker 3: But the New Orleans two step all was difficult, so

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Speaker 2: I'm going with it.

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Speaker 3: The Pelicans and seat geek are providing basically free codes

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Speaker 2: And we're talking lower level to level.

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Speaker 3: They're back there right now in the old Timberwolves days

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Speaker 3: great time. Ants throwing alloups to McDaniel's nas, is hitting threes.

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Speaker 2: Were playing coming on, we getting into the meet.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow is the Clippers, Monday is the Suns, who are

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Speaker 3: And then we're going to get into, though, the part

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Speaker 3: going to win it. It's just my dream. You've got

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Speaker 3: Golden State a week from Friday on the road Sacramento, Memphis.

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Speaker 2: Point we've had one of either the second or third

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Speaker 2: And again that doesn't mean everything, but they they do have.

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Speaker 2: They are adventuresome man in terms of some of the

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Speaker 2: just starts dribbling hi, and there's you know, He's like,

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Speaker 3: He's not ready to go. Yeah, So it's very strange,

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Speaker 3: but he's a good barometer for how the team's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Jaden's kind of won too, although he was great again yesterday.

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Speaker 2: His finish at the basket, his resounding dunk, that was

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Speaker 3: Minnesota, while last night played it happened their worst game

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Speaker 3: a terrible Calgary team in the Saddle Dome four to one,

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Speaker 3: the Flames knocked us off, unfortunately, and everybody said after

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that's the first sign. The first time one

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Speaker 2: The Canucks? Who we play? When is that? As I

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Speaker 3: no reason. Just out of nowhere, it's over.

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Speaker 2: I know it's over. It's yeah, it's over. It was

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Speaker 2: one of those gyms that are out there now that

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Speaker 2: Everybody raves about that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to stick with a lifetime for a while longer,

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Speaker 3: and they'll stretch you too.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they'll stretch you too.

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Speaker 3: But it's tomorrow, Night nine, o'clock tip the Vancouver Canucks,

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Speaker 3: you have twenty three points. They are also no good.

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Speaker 3: It's a road game. That's why it's so late. But

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Speaker 3: it was not a not a great effort. Last night

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Speaker 2: Sorry, got to stay current. It's amazing. That's pretty much

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Speaker 2: it and then level at five point thirty tonight. Eventually

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Speaker 2: we'll take some questions as well from the student, not

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Speaker 3: Vikes play with food, Twins get booed wild, come on glued.

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Speaker 2: Vike's just rude. Wolvesn't five. That's one of my new

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Speaker 2: Guardsy's conscience. I could use one. JG knows entire Wolve

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Speaker 3: I actually had the Wolve schedule pulled up, so I

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Speaker 4: the sink Thomas Cherne sections starting the the five Friars chant.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, I thought, there's a nice upstanding Catholic

432
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: in the institution. And someone turned on me said, novel,

433
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: most of these kids are from a dinerst Well, here's

434
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: what weird to me.

435
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: And now that you mention it, it kind of does

436
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: reinforce of you. I've had that. I sensed that over

437
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 2: the this. I guess you could say school year, you know,

438
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: going back to September. Moving forward, you've covered much more

439
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: Sat Tom, much stuff in the University of Minnesota stuff.

440
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: What's the deal? I mean is is Johnny athletic in

441
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: your ear all the time or what.

442
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: No, It's just that we just we feel like you

443
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 4: only have one first year, you know, and uh, this.

444
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 5: Is Saint Thomas's first year.

445
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 4: As a full fledge Division one, you know.

446
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 5: School, it's eligible for postseason.

447
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 2: Coming it could go. The thing I guess is what

448
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 2: you're saying, that's a little.

449
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's not going to happen again.

450
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: I mean, but I mean going forward, we have to

451
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 4: pay attention to their Division one school and they need

452
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 4: to be treated. You know. Maybe I don't know the

453
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 4: equal footing is the University of Minnesota, but you do

454
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: have to recognize the fact that there's another Division one

455
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 4: program in this state. So uh, you know, since there

456
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: we did the first games in the in the hockey arena,

457
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 4: the first game in the basketball gymnasium. Now the first

458
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 4: game is the postseason participants in the volleyball so we

459
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 4: will be done. We'll be all out the first year.

460
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Speaker 5: Prices God, thank god.

461
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 3: It is all I can say because if my sources

462
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: say the coverage is going to get thicker, and that's

463
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: all I can say about Yeah, because Mucket, it's there's there's,

464
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: there's there's a what's the outsized influence I would say.

465
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: Among the beautiful people and the influencers that are going

466
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: to have you covering more Saint Thomas stuff than you should.

467
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: That's my opinion.

468
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 4: Well, Rochie and I had had a conversation about just

469
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: creating a Saint Paul beat where someone like covers Saint

470
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 4: Thomas and maybe during the summer just takes over the

471
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: Saints and gets more state Saint stuff in the there

472
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: you go. But I don't know if we're going to

473
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: have the people power to pull that one off.

474
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: No, I think that's well unless that's unless Royce decides

475
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: that's his next deal. That you know, then that that's

476
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: how he closes. He you know, he basically eventually retires

477
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: at age one hundred and five after becoming the Saint

478
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: Paul correspondent the Saints beat. Right now, he's still a

479
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: ball guy, exactly it and might it actually makes no

480
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: sense that.

481
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 4: Would check the boxes out too, But Rachel ans me

482
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 4: out in the road too, So I think the whole

483
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: I think he likes covering the entire state of Minnesota

484
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: and finding great stories about the people the sports figures

485
00:25:59,000 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: that make up the state.

486
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: If Lavelle's looking for peace and quiet, who have to

487
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: wait until target Field opens up next spring, writes Clayton

488
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: from I.

489
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: Did't say anything about inquired. I'm just saying my guy

490
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: get used to the noise, wild environment. You know, you

491
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 4: when you're when you're pampered, it's spoiled, and you sit

492
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: in press boxes all the time. You're kind of away

493
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: from all the madness. You know, this is just a

494
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 4: This takes me back to the old days of the

495
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: journalism when you're trying to cover high school basketball game.

496
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: Everybody's screaming and got the TRS eighty computer hoping that

497
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: the telephone hook cup cables are working so you can

498
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 4: get your story in on time. Back to those type

499
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 4: of days. Almost do you.

500
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Take the Twins at their word, or at least as

501
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: spoken through a nationally respected baseball writer who must have

502
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: heard him say just a couple of days ago. Internally,

503
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: the Twins don't even seem to know what their plan is.

504
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: And now the Twins are saying, we know exactly what

505
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: our plan is, and our plan includes keeping both of

506
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: our best starting pitchers and keeping Byron Buckston. Is there

507
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: any reason to believe them?

508
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: Wait? Man, who there's a report that suggested that second

509
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: half that they know they're gonna keep those guys. I

510
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 4: hadn't seen that.

511
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 3: Ken Rosenthal said that, yes, they're planning on it, anticipating.

512
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 2: Is the term.

513
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that means they anticipated until they get their

514
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: socks knocked up by some offers. I'll believe it when

515
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: I see it. I just think that I think a

516
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: lot of this is the ownership driven that maybe they're

517
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 4: still making decisions. They didn't know what their payroll was

518
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: the day they hired uh Derek Shelton to be the manager,

519
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 4: and we're sure of that. Instead, I don't know what

520
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 4: the who the new investments are they were supposed to,

521
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: you know, the latest the latest rumor was I was

522
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: told that hopefully they said the first week of December.

523
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: So I texted them on my person on Tuesday. I said,

524
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: it's the first week of December. And then I said, yeah,

525
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: you're right, Uh maybe hopefully by them the winter meetings

526
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 4: which are next week in Orlando. So I'm done, you know,

527
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: I'm just done trying to, you know, brow beat them

528
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 4: up some information that everybody like to have. Let me

529
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 4: ask you this question.

530
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: I quoted Kevin Kernin today on the Enough said program

531
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: shall run tonight on Fox nine plus seven thirty, and

532
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: I think on nine were between ten thirty and eleven

533
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: tonight after the news and Curnin led his ball nine

534
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, basically hot stove League Winter meetings column saying

535
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: the Twins should trade everybody, that there's no point in

536
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: even pretending any longer. If they really want to keep

537
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: sort of playing the half asked game, don't play it half.

538
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Go all the way with it and trade both of

539
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: the pitchers and trade bucks into Atlanta. Let him have

540
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: some fun down there in an area he knows. Well,

541
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: do you do you think there's any logic to that that,

542
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: you know, as painful as it is for Twins fans

543
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: to realize, how then, I guess you could say irrelevant

544
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: this franchise would be the next three or four years

545
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: that let's stop full ourselves, go ahead and start literally

546
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: start all over, get rid of everybody.

547
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: Well, what Kevin is suggesting, that's something that franchises have

548
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: fine found hard to do. Just totally gut a roster

549
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: and start from scratch and go scorch sturf. Most teams

550
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: don't do that. They they saw off a few pieces

551
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: and try to do it on the fly and try

552
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: to win and develop at the same time, which is very.

553
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 5: Hard to do.

554
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: It's it's uh, that's just a move that teams don't

555
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: do except in one instance, Uh you know, I I

556
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: arrived to start tom Union time for the nineteen ninety

557
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 4: eight season, and after they had us, I think they

558
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: lost a ninety something games with like Mike Morgan, Bob

559
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: Tootsbury and uh Grake Swindell and all those guys. Carl

560
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: poul I was like, look, if I'm gonna lose ninety

561
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: something games, you might as well do it with a

562
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 4: cheaper roster. And they got at the roster. So the

563
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 4: one case that the Twins could go by is their

564
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 4: own because they did this back in ninth at the

565
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight and now you played a two or

566
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 4: the nineteen ninety nine and then played another eighteen rookies

567
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 4: in two thousand and as a turnout, you know, the

568
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: fallout from that helped build the Twins teams in the

569
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: two thousands that were pretty talented, you know, Tory Hunter

570
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: and Jack Jones and Corey Cosking and all those guys.

571
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: You're getting getting experience and becoming you know, good players.

572
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: So they've done it before.

573
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 5: And so they shouldn't be afraid of doing it again.

574
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: Since they're used to doing it, maybe they'll have the

575
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 4: same effect that just would be two or three years

576
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: down the road when they're when they get better. But

577
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: you know, you know why, well, who you're fooling, You're

578
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: not gonna win next year, You're not. You're probably gonna

579
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: finish last in the division. If they're kidding themselves. So

580
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: they think that they're in a position to turn to

581
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: have a quick turnaround and compete again. Because all these

582
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: players develop at different, uh, different levels. Some guys have

583
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: made may sail right away.

584
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: Other guys are gonna fail for a.

585
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: While, and then you know you're gonna need you need

586
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 4: some of these guys need to get their brains beat.

587
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 5: In, you know. And meanwhilehile they're doing that, you're gonna be.

588
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: Losing games, you know, So don't don't think that you

589
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: can out smart everyone and think that you could just well,

590
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna we're gonna reload with younger players and

591
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: watch all these guys come together once. It doesn't happen

592
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: in baseball. So once you start taking these steps and

593
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 4: trading eleven people they did at the trade DeLine, you

594
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: know why stop?

595
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 5: Now?

596
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: You know, see what you get for Ryan? See if

597
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: you get the Lopez and uh, you know see where

598
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: Buckson wants to go and try to make something happen,

599
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: because you know, they're not gonna raise the Payol text year.

600
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: We already know that, so they're not gonna try to

601
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: add any to get any presentality. They're gonna go what

602
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: they got. They're gonna go with the young players. They're

603
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: gonna go in house. I guess most of their solutions

604
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 4: are gonna be in house. So you know, just put

605
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: everybody out of their misery, go ahead and trade those

606
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: three guys and then start from scratching and build up.

607
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: Are they prepared to deal with the attendance fall out

608
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: that would then follow? That would be I think even

609
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: worse than most of us are predicting it. It's it's

610
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: going to be right now then the bottom is completely

611
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: out of it, don't you think.

612
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure they're seeing that now. I'm sure the

613
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: season ticket renewals are not coming in at a fantastic

614
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: great like they like they have in recent years. And

615
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: they're also probably going to see it in terms of

616
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: group sales. The fans who you know, groups of twenty thirty,

617
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 4: fifty or one hundred that come in from all the

618
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: come in from drought Twins territory that Da Colas and Iowa,

619
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: in western Wisconsin and Washington games are probably not going

620
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 4: to get a lot of advanced groupselves that way either.

621
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: So I'm sure they're already seeing what's going on here

622
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: and the big you know, and of course the big

623
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: one is what's going to happen after twenty twenty six

624
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: and the CBA runs out, whether it be a work

625
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: stoppage there, And that's my conspiracy theory is that they're

626
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: looking at that too as the reason the slash payroll

627
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 4: so they don't have to get stuck with a bigger

628
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: payroll when there's going to be a work stoppage.

629
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: The Let's talk to the football as well. Your favorite team,

630
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: the Bears are in Green Bay for a game that

631
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: got moved i think the three twenty five for all

632
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: the obvious reasons. It's a it's it's basically it's the

633
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: winners in first place i think in the division. So

634
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: before we get to Vikings, let's talk a little bit

635
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: about Bears packers, because they you could say, everybody assumed

636
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: they were going to start imploding with the Black Friday

637
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: game against the Eagles in Philly, and they obviously performed

638
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: quite admirably there, especially on the ground.

639
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: And took care of business. So what do you expect

640
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: against Green Bay here?

641
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think this team it's it is

642
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: time that this team be given some credit given that

643
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: win on the road, or you still skeptical?

644
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 5: Uh?

645
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: Did you guys use the Bears Packers game as a

646
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: pick them game? This sweet with Carl?

647
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 3: We did?

648
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 5: Uh?

649
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: Did anyone to take the beer?

650
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: We both, Governor and I both did. We both took

651
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: him to cover. Yeah, it's I think it's sick right.

652
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: Carl said it's gonna be disruption.

653
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: Right, he just called for fet out, that is correct.

654
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's after he called Paul Allen fat really yeah,

655
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: just out of nowhere, just a just a cruel salvo.

656
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: And and Pa must have heard about it because he

657
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 3: responded with Merry Christmas, Carl, try to rise above.

658
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: This reminds me before I answer answer your question, you

659
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: guys should play the Carl Gersmith Christmas carol that he

660
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: sung years ago. I found it. Someone led me to it.

661
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: It's on YouTube. Uh.

662
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: Then it's back during the Dante cull Pepper day.

663
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while while.

664
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 3: Man, maybe you should bring that out of off balls. Okay,

665
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: we'll take that under consider.

666
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: It rather explained a lot about carlat for Minnesota Sports

667
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: and the things he said during the whole the happiest

668
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 4: time of the.

669
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 5: Year was just disgusting.

670
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: Anyway.

671
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, even even Synecon admitted to me that, you know,

672
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: he thought the Bears went over Philadelphia's eye opening to

673
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 4: going to there into their stadium in front of those

674
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 4: fans and pretty much run the ball. It will run

675
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: it down there through two running backs for over one

676
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: hundred yards rushing and do enough defensively to you know,

677
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 4: Fuster Jay hurt uh.

678
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: And slow down that offense. I thought that was the

679
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 5: signature win that they hadn't.

680
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: Had all year. So a good running game travels well,

681
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: and I think you can see that against the Packers

682
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: on Sunday and lambeau Field. I am concerned about Romo

683
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: Duze is out with a foot intry, he's not going

684
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: to play.

685
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 5: Jerise Stevens is out with a hip, but TJ.

686
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 4: Edwards, a linebacker who's really vital to our run stopping defense,

687
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: will will be activated and healthy for the game. So

688
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 4: some guys out, some guys in. I'd like the Bears

689
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 4: chances of I would take the Bears in the points

690
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna win, but I think

691
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: if they lose, they'll lose by a close margin because

692
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 4: you know, the the Packers are a talented team and

693
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 4: you know, as much as I skeptical, Jordan Love, you

694
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: know he's he can make some plays. Josh Shacobs is

695
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: a good running back, and the Bears running defense, you know,

696
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: has been leaky at times against good running backs. This

697
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: is this would be a test to see if they

698
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 4: can slow them.

699
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 5: Down on the on the ground that will give them

700
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 5: a shot in this game.

701
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: Try to explaying the sinecon too, is that uh you

702
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: kept you kept chirping about the Bears, you know, the

703
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: number of yard the yardage they've allowed, And I was like, yeah,

704
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: but you have to look at the third down defense

705
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: and looking at a defense in the red zone. Then

706
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: that's when they've tightened up. And Dennis Allen, I thought,

707
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: it's worked wonders with what he's had because he's had

708
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 4: guys that have missed most of the season. Chalil and

709
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 4: Johnson's only played like in two or three games this year,

710
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: you know, And so I think Allen's don a great job.

711
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: They've had the they've had to run they've had to

712
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: play nickel like the entire game because the linebackers are out.

713
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: It's it's been uh, it's been uh, it's been a

714
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 4: chance from but they've they've been functional. So I think

715
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: with the running game, with an offensive line that's ranked

716
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: among the top of the league, I think they're going

717
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: to keep this game close and then not get blown out.

718
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: And I think the.

719
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: Secondary is as healthy as it's been it's been, it's

720
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: relatively healthy this week. That's going to matter as well.

721
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 4: So I still think the Packers were gonna want to

722
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: close on them, but the Bear's going to give them

723
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: a game, and I can't wait to see them in

724
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: two weeks from now back in Soldier Field for the remax.

725
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: Are you going to that? Is that what you're telling me?

726
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: No, I'm no, I'm not.

727
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 5: I wish I could.

728
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm actually feeling slightly morose listening to

729
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: you lay out I think quite eloquently the matchup because

730
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: we're in the Twin Cities, right Minneapolis, Saint Paul, And

731
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: it doesn't feel right when the Vikings are irrelevant to

732
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: any of these discussions regarding the division, regarding the playoffs.

733
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: With five games to go. You know what I'm saying.

734
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: If you get to like the last one or two, okay,

735
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: well but we still got a month and change to go.

736
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: And now it's all consolation prizes, it's all trying to

737
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: find out about JJ. It's it's not a good feeling,

738
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: right because football is such a power full engine in

739
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: any metropolitan town that has a team, but certainly here

740
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: and right now it's just sputtering along and it's like, well,

741
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: we got to find other things to get excited about.

742
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: Whether JJ can answer the bell and you can get

743
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: a little bit better and we can do a couple

744
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: of other things and cut down.

745
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: We got to ask though, and you guys, both with

746
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: your Bears fans, you should be able to guide us

747
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: through this. You've done this for the last decade. So

748
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 3: what's the key.

749
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: Well, I gotta say welcome to my world on that one,

750
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 4: because this this is like only the second time since

751
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty five that the Bears and Packers are meeting

752
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: in which both teams are like over more than fortians,

753
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: over five hundred in December.

754
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's it's it's ridiculous that the Bear

755
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 5: is usually out of it by this time.

756
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: And all the moroseness you're talking about. I have lived

757
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: on an annibal basis. I've gone through the an annual

758
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 4: basis here in the last fifteen years or so, except

759
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: the twenty eighteen the Matt and Naggy team that got

760
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: double taps out of the postseason. Yeah, but yeah, it's

761
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: a it's a crummy feeling because you know, it's when

762
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: your football team is doing well. It's nothing that energizes

763
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: a city like a winning football team, you know, and

764
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 4: so to be on the opposite end of that and

765
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: knowing that by Thanksgiving, your cook your goose is cooked,

766
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 4: it's a demorializing feeling. And it's been a lot.

767
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: It's more here. Here's the other thing I think that

768
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: makes it crueler here than there. It's I feel like

769
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 2: it's it's we're used to at least being in the mix,

770
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: and as a result, I think it's harder for us

771
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: to to accept it. And I feel like under Zimmer

772
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: at least it wasn't a lot of every other year

773
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: kind of a thing. And has it been every other year?

774
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: Every one out of every three years have been down

775
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: under a KOC I don't even know, but it that's

776
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: part of I think what makes it harder is we're

777
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: not either thaying long enough to where we can, you know,

778
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: I think necessarily be comfortable. But then it kind of

779
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: kind of keeps coming reverting somehow, whether it's we lose

780
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: the close games we were winning before, or injuries, whatever

781
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: the case may be. And you know, for so long,

782
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: going all the way back, even post Marsha Walker trade,

783
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: the team tended to be in the mix. You know,

784
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 2: most of the time. They didn't win Super Bowls.

785
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: Obviously, they didn't even win often didn't win you know,

786
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: heavily into the playoffs, but they they they seem to

787
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: be a factor. And now we're one of those teams

788
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: that are just playing out the string with a month

789
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: to go, a month and change to go.

790
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: Well, I said, you know, you can, you can. We

791
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: can compare to degrees of torture that the van fan

792
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 4: bases have been through.

793
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Vikers fans have been.

794
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 4: It's been a little more a little more dramatic because

795
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 4: when you've got to that good years, they've gone haywire,

796
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 4: you know, like the wide right, you know, Gary Hanson,

797
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: mister Field go forty one doughnut, the Brett Favre game

798
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: against the Saints. You know, there's been reasons to have

799
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: your hearts ripped out. The Bears fans have been suffering

800
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 4: through death by a thousand cuts. You know, the cuts

801
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: start coming and then of September and go through October

802
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: and then like I said, by Thanksgiving. You know, we're

803
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: trying to look ahead the spring training for baseball, so

804
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: for baseball solos. But yeah, so I think I can

805
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: tell the Vikings fans of this just focus on JJ

806
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: McCarthy getting some experience and just imagine what better days

807
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: are gonna look like. Also, get ready to rolle about

808
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: this for Sunday too. And my three two pitch I

809
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: brought up the four letter word that you know you'll

810
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: never hear players or from an office to talk about,

811
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: but it'll be in the back of the minds. And

812
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: that's the Fortulan word is tank. Uh.

813
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 5: So you can imagine what the offseason is going to

814
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 5: be like when the Vikings are gonna have ten draft picks.

815
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: You know, they gonna get conversation picks from Darnold and

816
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones and they got ten picks to play. What

817
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: can they do with those picks? You know, how can

818
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: they restock this this roster. Do you trust crazy to

819
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: do it? You know, there's these are the things you

820
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: have to use to think that the future is going

821
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 4: to be better than the president. Trust me, I've been

822
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: through it a lot.

823
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: Is it?

824
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question about that. And that's what I

825
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: think makes it hurt weirdly more here because you've had,

826
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: you've had, you've had time to get accustomed to it

827
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: in a way that you know, a year ago, they're

828
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: sitting at fourteen and three and we're thinking going into

829
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: that last regular season game, we might be as good

830
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: as anybody. We can even control homice advantage. So on

831
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: the QB, what we need to see? What do you

832
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: need to see the rest of the way the last

833
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: five games.

834
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: Well, let's start with a first down, and then we'll

835
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: start with a second first down, and let's see let's

836
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: graduate to getting the volunteer opponent's side of the fields

837
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: and also, you know, carrying the ball over the goal line,

838
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: which in the sport it's called a touchdown. Okay, because

839
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: we haven't seen that in two weeks. So let's just

840
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: start stacking good positive plays. Let's getting out everybody up

841
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: to the line of scrimmage, getting to play called getting

842
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: the protection right and start moving chains and trickling the

843
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: ball down the field and the getting an ins a

844
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: couple of times, and then after maybe you do it

845
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 4: a couple of times, you start to remember the.

846
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 5: Feeling and it becomes more of a habit.

847
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 4: Because this rock bottom right now with this offense, and

848
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: they've got us start building some momentum. It's gotta be

849
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: step by step. It's gotta be inch biting. It's about

850
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: all eleven players on that field, not just the core

851
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 4: back trying to hold their block for one second longer

852
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 4: or trying to push a guy one more extra yard

853
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 4: to get another yard. And when eleven people do that

854
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: at once, you can build momentum. And they got to

855
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: start and JJ's gotta be the maestro. I would like

856
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: to see broke another game. I just think sending a

857
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: sea out on that situation was a possible task. But

858
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: in the end, it's all about getting JJ straight. You

859
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 4: gotta get j J straight.

860
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: Over these last five games, Interesting Texas came in. This

861
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: is from Scott and d Luth. The Bears won a

862
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowl eighty five. They have zero clue how Vikings

863
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: fans feel. Well, I mean, if you want to take

864
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: the long review. That's true. I mean the Bears post

865
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: eighty five obviously have not been particularly distinguished. Vikings have

866
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: been more relevant. But he's got a point. They did

867
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, and guards these vikings haven't been

868
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: there in a long long time.

869
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 5: That is forty years ago.

870
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: That's more than a generation ago, so a lot of

871
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: people aren't around who were able to experience that. That

872
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: was my sophomore year in college. I remember having the

873
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: Super Bowl party UH at my apartment in the Kansus

874
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: at the University of Illinois. Champagne and I remember a

875
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: food fight broke out in the living room during the

876
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: third quarter because the Bears were blowing out the Patriots.

877
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: No one was paying attention to the game. Some guys

878
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: said some goofy to one of my female friends. She

879
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 4: hit him over the bag and the head with a

880
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: bag of popcorn. It exploded and then it was on

881
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 4: UH sack thrown up against the walls, stuff being tossed,

882
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: cushions being used for protection, and UH I had to

883
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 4: clean up the disaster zone afterwards. But I was happy

884
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: because we had won the Super Bowl. Yeah, so I

885
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 4: do remember that, and that's right. I also have been

886
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: where the Vicers have been. Because six the Bears went

887
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl and lost to Tony Doungeye Peyton Manning.

888
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 3: And I was at Alleries that night Rinds halftime show,

889
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: and I've never even gotten that as a Vikings fan

890
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: that night.

891
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 5: Oh that's true, that's true.

892
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: You mean a shrink wrap guy, big al the whole bit.

893
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: We had a hell of a time and I just

894
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: left being sad that I may never experience just that.

895
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: And they scored the first seven of the game. Yeah,

896
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: they ran the opening kickback. The place was electric.

897
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say you were there for

898
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: one of the loudest moments in the history Alleries when

899
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: Devon has to return that kick and everybody exploded and

900
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: the waitresses were running around with their hands over their

901
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: ears because it was too loud for him. And I

902
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: was messing up shrink rerap guys normally perfect hair.

903
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 5: Hair. It was.

904
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: It went down the hill after day if you remember

905
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: that game to actually Manning threw an interception on their

906
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: next possession and the Bears had the ball up seven

907
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 4: to nothing in that game and before everything went six

908
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: and seventh and then it.

909
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Went pretty bad.

910
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Now, you're covering Saint Paul Saint's baseball, and

911
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: my neck hurt this morning just because I slept wrong.

912
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: This is this is where our lives, all the way

913
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: from here to that nineteen twenty years later.

914
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, point crazy. How things change, man. You have to

915
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 4: you have to enjoy them, the great moments when you're

916
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: in the right.

917
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: Do me a favor when you go back into the pavilion,

918
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: say hi to mister.

919
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 5: Maturi for me, and uh, if I see him, I

920
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 5: will right now.

921
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: Phil Weston, the Saint Thomas Athletic directors like standing right

922
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: behind us where we're sitting at. He's in the middle

923
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: all this noise, on all this racket as well. Dave

924
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: Thorson's here.

925
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: I guess his daughters are going to go play volleyball

926
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 5: for St. Thomas. Dave Thorson, the Gopher basketball assistant coaches

927
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: in the in the audience as well.

928
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: World the Saint Thomas rules everything. We know that the

929
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: whole world revolves around Saint Thomas and their alums and

930
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: their power brokers and their influence peddlers, the whole bit

931
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: I I I love sooner later.

932
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 5: Has anyone donated?

933
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 4: Is anyone ever donated seventy five million in the Gopher

934
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: Athletic department.

935
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: That's a good question, that's a very good point. You're right.

936
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Why can't we find our guys to do it? That's

937
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: the question, because we got people with to go, right,

938
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: Although Saint Thomas play more money, right, Yeah, Well, special

939
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: and family has been and outstanding for generous penny generous,

940
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: very generous. How many things they've named after them, like

941
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: the whole campus and Mike. They consider renaming the university

942
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: itself Saint Thomas if they continue to they probably could,

943
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: probably could could probably has any any university ever been

944
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: renamed after a series of contributions.

945
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 3: It became so extraordinary that they said, let's just stop.

946
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna rename the university after what was Oral Roberts named.

947
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: After at the beginning.

948
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 5: It's funny, that's what I was.

949
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: That was one of Johns Hopkins who was always named that.

950
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: I think I know it was.

951
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of actual names. Johns Hopkins.

952
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 3: I don't know who is Johns Hopkins.

953
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't even who that is.

954
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: Brigham Young found found Brigham Young University? Was it something

955
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 4: else before he.

956
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: Got I think he founded it. I think that's right,

957
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: that's very true. All Right, we gotta go, Thank you

958
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: have fun, Thanks thanks for having me. All right, Lavelle

959
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: e Neil the third, We got a half hour to go.

960
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: And you know, story that has escaped our attention this

961
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: week from the a section that is regional in nature,

962
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: I think is worth a minute or two. It's an

963
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: extraordinary story that started in tragedy fire related and now

964
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: we have I guess a significant update in that story

965
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: and some very sobering developments. We'll try to get to

966
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: that and who knows what else as we wrap up

967
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: the program in the next thirty perhaps a couple final

968
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: thoughts about the Vikings weekend hosting the Washington Commanders. But

969
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: before we do that, I assume guards that you saw

970
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: the update in the Lutsen Resort in case, and I

971
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: was about to call it stunning, but the feeling I'm

972
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: getting now based on what I'm reading, is that it

973
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: to a lot of people, especially in or around that area,

974
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: it's not stunning at all. That it was almost an

975
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: expected result. Arson Charlie charges filed this week against the

976
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: owner of Lutsen Resort, and in fact, I'm looking at

977
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: a quote this is from the Start one of the

978
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: Start Commune stories out of Duluth. What I in thousands

979
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: of other people already knew was confirmed. According to Alex

980
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: hilter Brand, a former employee of the resort, we just knew.

981
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: Bryce Campbell in a jail near Detroit on Friday, awaiting

982
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: extradition to Minnesota facing three counts of arson and one

983
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 2: kind of insurance fraud related to the Febs six, twenty

984
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: twenty four fire that took three days to extinguish. The

985
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: State Bureau of Criminal Apprehension saying yesterday that Campbell quote

986
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: knowingly caused the fire to fraudulently, fraudulently collect and insurance payout.

987
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: The resort bills itself as the state's oldest in operation

988
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: for almost one hundred and forty years. In fact, the

989
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 2: lodge that burned was built in nineteen fifty two, after

990
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: fire destroyed two previous iterations as well. Still unclear how

991
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 2: the fire started, the State Fire Marshal said charges alleged

992
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: accelerants were involved in the Campbell had researched accelerants online.

993
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: He is a I think Bryce Campbell is a Canadian

994
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: citizen forty one years old, and he bought the resort

995
00:50:54,239 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen for six point seven million dollars. He

996
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: also owned number of other spots. Copper River inn in

997
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: Ontario has since sold that property as well. Now at

998
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: the time, there were a lot of very strong denial

999
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: quotes from Campbell. Right after the fire. He had just

1000
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: invested apparently millions of dollars in improvements to the lodge,

1001
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: so he wrote, So you don't bleeping torture place and

1002
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: burn up five million dollars of your money. Let's use

1003
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: some common sense here people. The resort general manager, Edward Venegas,

1004
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: who watched the historic building burn, said he isn't sure

1005
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: Campbell started the fire. Campbell had himself hired a private

1006
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: forensic fire investigator, he said, and while authorities are citing

1007
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: opportunity and motive, he said, they haven't found proof. And

1008
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 2: he put it out in consistencies in the complaint. So

1009
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's innocent until proven guilty. I assume Vanagus

1010
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: bought the potential accelerate switz Mars sited in court papers

1011
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: for their fondue dinners, he said, adding that a huge

1012
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: box of it was in his office and could have

1013
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 2: fallen near the boilers as floors caved during the fire.

1014
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: The problem again, among the problems with that is that

1015
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: I believe the authorities say they have all these searches

1016
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: that were done about how do you how does how

1017
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: does start start your start a fire? Correct? Yeah, which

1018
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't seem to mesh with what resort general manager Guy

1019
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: is saying in this particular piece. In addition, the resort's

1020
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: insurance policy was increased, but he says it's because of

1021
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 2: extensive renovations at the lodge, adding that third floor of rooms.

1022
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: Joe Frederick's, a Cook County based journalist who has met

1023
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: with Campbell and exchanged messages for months, described as a

1024
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: described him as an imposing figure at about six yore

1025
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: two fifty who constantly drinks diet soda with me. He

1026
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: was pretty mild mannered and calm, and would kind of

1027
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: present himself as in a loof clumsy entrepreneur with an

1028
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: innocence I wouldn't hurt a fly kind of thing. On

1029
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: end quote. He's also known as a tough person to

1030
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: work with. The reporter added, now, I also thought I'd

1031
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: read somewhere else that he had some significant financial issues

1032
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: involving a debt elsewhere I from not mistake and that

1033
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: was part of the trail that was followed here regarding

1034
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: what might have been his impetus to do what he

1035
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: is accused of doing.

1036
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: But obviously, as I said, he will have his day

1037
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 3: in court. He also owned the Superior Shores resort just

1038
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: outside of Two Harbors. Okay, if you're going on your

1039
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 3: way to Loots and Rich right there on the right

1040
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: on sixty one, And yeah, the money was not He

1041
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: was having significant money problems, you know, like business accounts

1042
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: that have been basically down to nothing or below zero,

1043
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: not able to make payroll like things like that. I

1044
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: think that was in the same Star Trip story that

1045
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: you're reading from, maybe a little bit further down.

1046
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: Correct.

1047
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it checks all the boxes for all of that stuff.

1048
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: It checks all the boxes for the criminal complaint suggests

1049
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: a debt of more than fourteen mil totally, and that's

1050
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: obviously a very very large debt. So I'll be curious

1051
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 3: to see how this goes if he's going to put

1052
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: Based on what I'm reading, it sounds like he might

1053
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 3: plead not guilty. We'll have to see court schedule and

1054
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 3: be determined after he's back in the state. And I

1055
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: think he either turned himself in or was arrested without incident.

1056
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: Wherever he was what did I say, was it Detroit? No,

1057
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 3: somewhere in Michigan. Let's see where he's located.

1058
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in a jail near Detroit at least as

1059
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: of earlier today. That fire took place Feb Six of

1060
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. And it's one of those places, right

1061
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, Very historic for sure, great

1062
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: memories for lots of folks. And it was a massive

1063
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: conflagration at the time, right as we said, I think

1064
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: it took three days to be to be put out.

1065
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: Well, think about a place that could have burned down

1066
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 3: twice previous to nineteen fifty two, like and still be

1067
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: considered historic. Like I'm not saying that sense, right, but

1068
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: that's how long there'd been a lodge in this spot, right,

1069
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: forever and ever and ever and now the oldest one

1070
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 3: for the newest one was nineteen fifties, and he had

1071
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: done some renovations on it and all of those things.

1072
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: Just think about all the memories and families and just

1073
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: having that be there forever and ever and ever, and

1074
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: then having this happen. There were also I know I

1075
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 3: read somewhere in here's some quotes between he and and

1076
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: his husband, I believe talking about burn it down. Weren't

1077
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: there quotes to that effect?

1078
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: Did I miss that?

1079
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: Did I did?

1080
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm making that up. I didn't check it.

1081
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Speaker 2: There was another story that I read, or at least

1082
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: there were some indication of conversations that led one to

1083
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: believe that there might have been a plan here. There

1084
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 2: might have been something planned here, an orchestrated attempt. I'll

1085
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: try to find it here before the program is wrapped up.

1086
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: I got a couple of good odes to Steve, the

1087
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: legendary guitars Steve Cropper, who we oded earlier in the

1088
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 3: show as well, and maybe even a couple final thoughts

1089
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: on Vikings hosting the Washington Commanders.

1090
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 2: All that is coming up next.

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Speaker 3: Show rap presented by American Pressure Commercial Fraide Pressure washers

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00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 3: since nineteen seventy five.

1093
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: It's the Bumper to Bumper show rap.

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00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm looking at one of the stories regarding the Lutsen fire,

1096
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: and there were apparently a codinged to authorities. A series

1097
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: of Facebook messages between Campbell and his husband in which

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00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: they discussed the financial difficulty the resort and write burn

1099
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 2: it about the resort, and a message about the resort.

1100
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 2: In a message after the fire, Campbell referred to saying

1101
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: burn it as a joke as well. So there's a

1102
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: lot on this story that is yet to come. But

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00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: it's a pretty Again. I don't know if it's astonishing

1104
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: the end, given that apparently for a lot of people,

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00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: they felt all along that it was likely that that's

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00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: what took place here, which is not the same thing

1107
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: as someone being charged. So that's where we're at the

1108
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: story now. Danny. You give the Hoosiers a fighting chance.

1109
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: Your Hoosiers are fighting chance tomorrow versus Ohio State. I do.

1110
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm ready to pick them. Maybe

1111
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm still too much in that motive of their Ohio State.

1112
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: We're Indiana. It's been a great story and they're legit.

1113
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: But that's still maybe the best team in football, the

1114
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: really good defense. But I do think I do expect

1115
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: it to be I'll be surprised if it's not a

1116
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: close game. Indiana's in that mode still a year after

1117
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: the art tissue from their finish where they you know

1118
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: they got they got pretty much manhandled in the two

1119
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: great opponents they played Ohio State and Notre Dame that

1120
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: they needed needed to be a ball game. The last

1121
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: thing they need, obviously is to go there and to

1122
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: lose by twenty eight points something like that. But I

1123
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: do think they have a chance in the game. Paul

1124
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: from Fridley caught your ode to guitar legend Steve Cropper.

1125
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: Had the pleasure of meeting him in the Cities in

1126
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: the late nineties and getting his autographed on my autograph

1127
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: on my guitar strap. Who's here as part of an

1128
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: all star band to play for a large gathering of

1129
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: Northwest Airlines now Delta employees who were honored for their

1130
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: twenty five plus years of employment. I supported the event

1131
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: as a company intern, so yeah, it sounds like it

1132
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: sounds like quite an event.

1133
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: Corporate events is an intern where all was fun. They

1134
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 3: were actually were they not just because everything seemed possible.

1135
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 3: That's very free drinks and food boss is acting like that.

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00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: He also I mentioned this earlier on the dock of

1137
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: the Bay. The Sitting on the Bay a terrific otis

1138
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: Redding song in which I think Cropper actually wrote a

1139
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: decent amount of it and played on it as well,

1140
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 2: is another example of a song where you might not

1141
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: know he was on it. Might not have been aware

1142
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: of that, but you're sure as hell if you're old

1143
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: enough at least aware of the of the brilliance of

1144
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: that particular tune and the instrument work on it as well.

1145
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: So a gone but not forgotten, I don't, I think.

1146
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: And it sounds like he had a bad fall, some

1147
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: kind of incident that because allegedly he was. Somebody was

1148
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: quoted as saying any or he's about to do some

1149
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: more work, We're gonna get him back in the studio, whatever.

1150
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know if there was some kind of

1151
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: complication from the fall or something else more sudden that

1152
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: we don't know. He was in his eighties, I want

1153
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: to say, eighty four might have been even older than that.

1154
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: You took the Vikings to win. I did as well.

1155
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 3: I got embarrassed last week picking them to at least

1156
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: cover and that wasn't even close. That was myself for that,

1157
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: selling you on Brozemer a little bit too hard. It

1158
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 3: might be that that, well, the national media was on.

1159
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: We talked about that on Sunday.

1160
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: Florio was basically saying, well, this might be the guy,

1161
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: and maybe he will be Sunday, but allegedly it's not

1162
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: as insane to pick them at home against a three

1163
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: and nineteam, right, even though they're getting their quarterback back,

1164
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: and a year ago they were a damn good club.

1165
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: So it is, if not now when on a number

1166
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 2: of fronts, not the least of which is we talked

1167
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: about much earlier in the show washing, our next three

1168
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: opponents are three of the five worst statistically speaking defensive

1169
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: teams in all of football. And you gotta believe that

1170
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: if you don't get some progress from JJ through these

1171
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 2: three games, maybe there is even greater concern at TCO

1172
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: Performance Center among the folks who swear by him and

1173
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: believe that it's just a matter of time before he

1174
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: becomes one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of

1175
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings football.

1176
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: That's not flexed, right, that's a noon game. Yeah, it's noonday.

1177
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: We have a national game sitting night football against the

1178
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 3: Cowboys next week December fourteenth, that's there, right, Yeah, that

1179
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 3: could get ugly. Yeah, and then I forgot about Netflix

1180
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 3: on Christmas against the Lions. Gustling reminded me.

1181
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: Of us of that one. Oh is that true? I

1182
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: forgot that too. Yep, Thursday, December twenty fifth, that sayesn't

1183
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: that's that's so sad and none of this is fun.

1184
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 4: No.

1185
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: At this point you're like, oh, really a big deal.

1186
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to do I have to watch it?

1187
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: You know this is we really don't. We don't have

1188
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: a show for a few days after. It's stuff to

1189
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be looking forward to.

1190
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 3: But you don't have a Vikings regular guest anymore. He

1191
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: got traded. Do you see the Levi Drake Rodriguez should

1192
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 3: have brought it up on the show with you when

1193
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 3: he's out.

1194
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: He's out. Yeah, isn't it a neck injury with him? Yeah?

1195
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 2: Sort of like yours? Maybe it's like mine. Yeah, yeah,

1196
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: pain he comes he's on our show for the first

1197
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: time because Mattel's was afraid to because everybody else who

1198
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: comes on the show ends up getting cut or not

1199
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: returning to the club or getting fired, and so the

1200
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: substitute comes on and now he's not available to play. Yeah,

1201
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: it's a little bit scary. We're not going to get

1202
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: any regulars on any longer. I don't think, And yes,

1203
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: I know some of you out there want us to

1204
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: get JJ McCarthy on as a regular. We're not going

1205
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: to do that. Well aware that's what you're saying. I

1206
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: know what you're saying there. We've played that game before.

1207
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 2: We've been there before. Larry mudother guy had a really

1208
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: good chief shot at you and I can't find it.

1209
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: Dang it, where was it? There'll be another one next week,

1210
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: Larry mondelo guy. How much so here it is? I

1211
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: think if you replaced Fairfield with Normandale, all the schools

1212
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: in the Vollyball Regional at the U are guards. The

1213
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: Alma maters pretty close. Not bad, happen pretty close. Great

1214
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: weekend sermons, one hour edition will begin at nine o'clock.

1215
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you Sunday morning. Thank you for the memories,

1216
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: thank you for the great time. I love you, Dad,

1217
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: whenever you need me.