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Speaker 1: Piece of advice, your subcile company, which never offer you

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Speaker 1: three flowers for a survey.

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Speaker 2: It's war are the roses on?

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Speaker 3: Katie w B.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that pickleball has ever played a role

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Speaker 3: Do you guys remember pickleball playing things? No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'm gonna let Alicia explain the whole thing. Alicia,

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Speaker 4: talk to me about your boyfriend Mark, he lived with you,

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Speaker 4: and the whole pickleball drama because you think that he

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Speaker 5: Hy Alicia, Hey, Dave, how's it going good?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're not very happy, And I get it. Well,

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Speaker 3: you're on the roses, so you're not. It's not a

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Speaker 4: And we forget that sometimes because we're so wrapped up

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Speaker 4: in hearing the crazy story. But there's a lot at

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Speaker 4: stake here. So tell me what's going on with Mark

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Speaker 4: and why you wanted to find out what he's up to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Mark and I live together.

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Speaker 2: We've lived together for a couple of years.

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Speaker 5: And then last summer he really got into pickleball.

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Speaker 2: Great gets him out of the house. He got into

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Speaker 2: a league. It was really cute, like he would come

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Speaker 2: home and tell me all about it. He has a

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 2: Last week his dad got into an accident. His dad

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Speaker 2: hit a deer and then he swerved and he hit

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Speaker 5: Was in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's okay, he's okay, okay, good. But the problem

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Speaker 2: was no one could get ahold of Mark. But we

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Speaker 2: have each other's locations because, you know, like if he's

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Speaker 5: To order you know, door dash or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 5: that way, I can like track him and see.

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Speaker 2: When he's going to be home so I can time everything.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he was at the pickleball court, which is

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Speaker 2: and then the guy at the counter earth says, you know,

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Speaker 2: well have you seen Tyler because that's the partner, And

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Speaker 2: the front person says, no, I haven't seen her, and.

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Speaker 5: I've was like, wait her, Tyler is a girl you.

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Speaker 4: Didn't know that Tyler was a girl, was a woman

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and Mark talks about Tyler all the time.

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Speaker 2: That's his partner.

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Speaker 4: You know, it would have come up that that it's

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Speaker 6: Hey, Tyler and I did this, and then we did this,

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Speaker 6: and we did that. So I guess I could I

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Speaker 6: could get not knowing that it was a woman.

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Speaker 3: But why would he hide that from her? Though? Exactly exactly?

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Speaker 4: So you're you, you're so his dad's in the hospital,

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Speaker 4: you can't reach him, you find out that Tyler is

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Speaker 3: What happens next?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so obviously freaking out at this point. So

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Speaker 2: I go home because I'm like, I don't know where

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Speaker 2: So he comes home and I asked him where he was,

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Speaker 2: and I asked him, you know, I confirm about Tyler and.

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Speaker 5: Say, hey, like, what the hell?

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Speaker 2: I just gone out.

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Speaker 5: She's a girl.

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Speaker 2: And he said that they left to go talk. So

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Speaker 5: And they left to go talk. He was with her,

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Speaker 2: He just needed someone to talk to. I was like, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: here I was with all this stuff going down, and like,

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Speaker 5: And then he tells me that it was about me and.

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Speaker 2: That that's why he couldn't talk to me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Tyler, about you? About you?

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Speaker 2: About me?

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Speaker 6: Well you're the one dealing with all of his like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, with like his dad in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, what do you I mean is that legit?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it might be something like, oh man, I

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Speaker 4: stayed late a work today, I was talking to Bailey.

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Speaker 4: Well where were you talking to Bailey about? Oh man,

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Speaker 4: I just needed somebody to talk to.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are close, but I you know, from

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Speaker 2: all the stories that he's told me, they are friends.

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Speaker 2: But I my whole deal is he obviously hid the

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I've never heard the fact that Bailey, which

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Speaker 4: probably could be either way that's true, could be could

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Speaker 4: be a woman. Yeah, so you think there might be

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Speaker 4: something that is going on. So we to call him

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Speaker 4: and see who he would send roses to, which is

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Speaker 4: a start? I mean, is we do the brand new

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six feature the Suspicion Scale. Jenny, what do

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Speaker 4: you give this one on the suspicion scale.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty high. He's keeping secrets and running off

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Speaker 3: So I'm going with eight.

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, I'm going full on ten. Maybe not lied,

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Speaker 7: but admitted the fact that Tyler is a woman. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and then admit you're talking to another woman about you

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Speaker 3: Get it together, my guy. Ten. Okay, see, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go with a five.

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Speaker 8: Wowly surprising only because like I have had coworkers who

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Speaker 8: are men that I end up not telling my partner

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Speaker 8: that they're men because I don't want them to think

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Speaker 8: that I'm out here, like you know, trifling. So okay,

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Speaker 8: I So I say, like it could go either way.

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Speaker 6: Either yes, he's cheating or yeah, he's just got a

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Speaker 6: friend who's a girl, but he doesn't want to mention

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Speaker 6: it's a girl to make you upset.

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Speaker 4: You know, understand, I would say eight point five because

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Speaker 4: he hit the fact that it's a girl. That is

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Speaker 4: a lie that a guy might tell or anybody might tell.

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Speaker 4: We just went to go. If you're off banging somebody

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Speaker 4: during pickleball and I'm sorry, then you're going to lie

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Speaker 4: and you're going to say we just went to get Petza.

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Speaker 4: We just went to drive around and talk were talking,

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Speaker 4: So I would say it's pretty high on the suspicion scale.

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Speaker 4: If you can hang on for a second, Alicia, We've

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Speaker 4: come this far. Stay with me. We'll make the phone

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Speaker 4: call in just a second and see who he chooses

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Speaker 4: for roses.

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Speaker 2: Okay, love is in the air or wait, are those lies?

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Speaker 3: I guess we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I'm part two of War of the Roses on KDWB.

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Speaker 4: So to bring up to speed, there's this couple and

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Speaker 4: he plays pickleball. Great, so he leaves like every Tuesday

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Speaker 4: or whatever night to go play pickleball.

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Speaker 3: Cool.

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Speaker 4: She's like fine, and then they track each other on

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Speaker 4: his family. His dad got into a bad car accident

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Speaker 4: You need to know this, and he doesn't answer. So

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Speaker 4: his phone ring. She heard his phone ring A cobby, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and She's like, where is this guy Mark, Mark? And

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Speaker 4: they're like, oh, yeah, he left a little while ago.

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Speaker 4: Didn't he leave with with Tyler?

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Speaker 3: Tyler? Yeah, she was here.

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Speaker 4: Shee why she didn't know Tyler was a Tyler was

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then what happens, Well, basically he gets home and

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Speaker 1: she a confronts him about the fact that Tyler's a

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Speaker 1: go talk to Tyler and she's like, well, why can't

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Speaker 1: you talk to me?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, honestly because it was.

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Speaker 7: About you, which is so such a red flag on

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Speaker 7: so many levels, especially now that it's a Natalie know

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Speaker 7: what the woman?

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Speaker 3: Why are you talking's another woman about us? Excuse me,

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Speaker 3: they're suspicious.

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Speaker 4: Let's make the phone call and see who he sends

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Speaker 4: the flowers to. On War of the Roses.

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Speaker 1: Mark, thanks for taking the survey with me today. So,

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Speaker 1: like I said, as a little reward, thank you for

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Speaker 1: doing the survey, I have a dozen red roses that

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Speaker 1: I will send out on your behalf.

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Speaker 4: So what I'll need for me.

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Speaker 1: First is who do you want to send the roses to?

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Speaker 9: Red Red Roses?

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Speaker 3: Yep, I'll send them to.

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Speaker 1: Tyler please, Okay, I will send that to them. I

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Speaker 1: also do attach a card with the roses, so if

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Speaker 1: you want, I can write something on there that you can.

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Speaker 3: Give to Tyler.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for everything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, simple enough?

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Speaker 4: Can we talk about this guy and have him wonder

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Speaker 4: what we're talking about? So yeah, Mark, it's gonna get

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Speaker 4: real weird all of a sudden, and then I'll explain

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Speaker 4: it in a second. That was non committal. No, that

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Speaker 4: was noncommittal. He did not say I love you.

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Speaker 3: I didn't. He does like you know, I love your lips.

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Speaker 6: No, but he did send them to not Alicia.

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Speaker 3: So Mark, yeah, we're talking about you, are you not?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to ask what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Or nah?

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Speaker 4: I did?

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Speaker 3: I did that?

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Speaker 9: What is going on?

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Speaker 4: I didn't hear you because you were talking about let

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Speaker 4: me explain what's going on here? So, uh, it's it's

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Speaker 4: a trap and we're trying to see who you would

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Speaker 4: send flowers to. And uh and and when I say we,

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Speaker 4: it's the Dave Ryan Show over at k d w.

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Speaker 3: BE and we.

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Speaker 4: Were put up to this by your girlfriend Alicia because

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Speaker 4: she told us the whole pickleball night story where you say, Alicia,

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Speaker 4: say hello to Mark so he'll know that this is

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Speaker 4: legit and not like some sort of a you know,

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Speaker 4: like prank or scam.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't really feel like saying hello right.

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Speaker 4: Now, but well let's let's let's explore a little bit

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Speaker 4: if we don't mind. So, I mean, he was kind

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Speaker 4: of noncommittal. Why would you send flowers to instead of

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Speaker 4: your girlfriend Alicia, to this girl, Tyler, your pickleball partner,

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Speaker 4: who you've kind of been pretty close to.

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Speaker 9: Wow, Okay, no, girl, absolutely right. I should definitely send

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Speaker 9: my flowers to my girl who sets me up for

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Speaker 9: this instead of sending them to my friend who has

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Speaker 9: been very supportive of me during a rough time. Okay, great, cool,

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Speaker 9: awesome love that.

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Speaker 3: So it's fault in. So it's Alicia's fault.

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Speaker 1: But it sounds like we are deflecting, We are being defensive.

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Speaker 1: We are being very guilty, is what it sounds like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, after lying or omitting in for me being.

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Speaker 9: Upset that I was sick to be on whatever the

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Speaker 9: heck this is. Yeah, that does make me upset. You're

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Speaker 9: very very right. Congratulations you thanks well, I mean you

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Speaker 9: didn't know.

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Speaker 4: And the truth is, I mean, yeah, you're deflecting, you're

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Speaker 4: doing a great job. But I think the truth is

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Speaker 4: you sent flowers to another person when you know the

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Speaker 4: obvious choice would be to send him to your girlfriend, Alicia.

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Speaker 2: They should have gone to me, my god, Mark, like

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Speaker 2: everything with your dad. The whole reason I came to

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Speaker 2: the pickleball courts to find you was because I couldn't

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Speaker 2: get a hold of you. Who was the one holding

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Speaker 1: That was me?

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Speaker 2: That was me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're so strong, Oh you're so strong. What is

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Speaker 5: happened to you?

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I don't like this guy. He is a manipulator

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Speaker 3: and nothing.

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Speaker 2: I don't This is not you. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you're like from your dad being you know, hurt.

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Speaker 5: But this is not okay. Thank god I.

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Speaker 9: Had Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. I

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Speaker 9: was just thinking the same.

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Speaker 3: And thinking, what my god.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is not okay, This is not okay.

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Speaker 5: What what part isn't okay?

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Speaker 6: You doing it.

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Speaker 9: Something modest to me about it instead of going through

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Speaker 9: this whole crazy rigamarole.

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Speaker 5: This is I am asking you, ask you.

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Speaker 4: He did ask you who's right though, I mean, is

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Speaker 4: he right? How is she right?

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Speaker 3: Is out here trifling David? He's he's cheating.

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Speaker 4: Well, why didn't she just talk to him about it

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Speaker 4: instead of putting him through this whole rigamarole?

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Speaker 1: But she did because yeah, she already did talk to

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Speaker 1: him about and then he went and ahead and sent

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Speaker 1: the flowers to Tyler. And that's why her women's intuition

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Speaker 1: is never wrong.

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Speaker 2: Oh I don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: Here we are, but he sounds like it. You know,

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Speaker 3: what a big a big D word.

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Speaker 4: Okay, a lot of text messages. This guy's the biggest

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Speaker 4: d bag I've ever heard. I really want to punch

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Speaker 4: him in the in the pickleballs. And he made sure

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Speaker 4: the roses were read. What a B word? Says this

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Speaker 4: text message. He seems like a very practiced gas lighter

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Speaker 4: and narcissist and makes me wonder what else he has

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Speaker 4: lied to her about or guilted her for another.

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Speaker 3: Text He sounds like a narssicist. Dump him.

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Speaker 4: He's never going to change, and that his war roses

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Speaker 4: on Katie W. B. You can your classic War of

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Speaker 4: the Roses anytime on the iHeart Aptist Dave Ryan War

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Speaker 4: of the roses and you can hear I think years

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Speaker 4: of war of the roses on there