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Speaker 1: Wild Sounds of Hockey.

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Speaker 2: Partonal fouling.

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Speaker 3: It's a coming to clean up e ressault on the

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Speaker 3: tape apartment upstairs.

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Speaker 4: High Glom and the Wild have won nothing, leave.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota and throwing the buck great from the draw. Here

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Speaker 2: once again there's Ryan Hartman.

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Speaker 5: He gets a lot of those go off by being

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Speaker 5: by that flupinian area.

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Speaker 6: Marcus Johanson got to a favorable bounce camped at home.

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Speaker 6: It's his first goal since January the fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: Head it's two nothing Wild Yeah, Big.

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Speaker 2: Golf in Minnesota also opening up the spread of.

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Speaker 4: These two teams.

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Speaker 7: Dream to Tarasko. Penny scores a power What a goal

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Speaker 7: for Vladimir Tara sek Goo he stays.

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Speaker 6: Red hot and the Wild are backing run by a

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Speaker 6: pair at three ones.

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Speaker 5: And it's.

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Speaker 2: What's a good morning to you?

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Speaker 8: And welcome to the capital city of Saint Paul in

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Speaker 8: the state of Minnesota, and welcome to nine to noon

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Speaker 8: for a box in the Box presentation. If you listen

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Speaker 8: real closely, you'll hear Zamboni guy in front of us

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Speaker 8: right now.

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Speaker 2: Hey, my man, what's going on? My man?

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Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 7: Bud good to see a good job as usual.

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Speaker 8: Uh Nordos here, I'm Paul Ally you're kind of hoping

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Speaker 8: for a horn honk or yeah, remember your kid used

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Speaker 8: to have the truck driver it was I think it's

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Speaker 8: Chris Asse. But what not Zamboni guy?

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Speaker 2: What was it?

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Speaker 9: I'm not I know, I don't right, I don't right. Guys, Oh,

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Speaker 9: I love that. Yeah, he's all time Grand Casino.

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Speaker 8: That was over a Grand casino or a tree today

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Speaker 8: for a box in the box, that's Kevin gorg At

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Speaker 8: gorgo matic two to one via X three times the

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Speaker 8: Minnesota while to beat in the black Hawks this year

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Speaker 8: for three in overtime. And you're red hot right now.

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Speaker 8: I mean everything you're touching is heading into your pocket.

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Speaker 8: So very Drew, says the undulation leader. Chances that happens

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Speaker 8: again tonight four to three win for the Wild and overtime,

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Speaker 8: let's go.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't that be something? Yeah, it's been crazy how good

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Speaker 5: these games have been. You know, a couple of nights ago,

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Speaker 5: looks like the Wild they're going to take full control

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Speaker 5: in the first twenty three goals in that period. Chicago

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Speaker 5: invariably comes back, gets a little push late in the game,

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Speaker 5: ties it up, and then in overtime. I thought the

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Speaker 5: wild we we're brilliant. But yeah, they've been tough games,

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Speaker 5: they've been hard fought games. Chicago's on the come. They're

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Speaker 5: a year or two away. They've got some young talent.

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Speaker 5: I love Spencer Night, their goaltender. He was terrific the

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Speaker 5: other night. But Minnesota's own this team eighteen oh one

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Speaker 5: in their last nineteen matchups. Haven't lost to this team

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Speaker 5: since before the pandemic. Think about that.

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Speaker 2: How'd you do it? Cam Young?

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Speaker 8: For the Power Trip Press Box pull all six qualified

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Speaker 8: and made the cut.

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Speaker 2: How'd you do it?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 2: It was mastery, it was fun.

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Speaker 5: You know, you get picked nine, you're not always going

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Speaker 5: to get a guy that is one of the favorites.

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Speaker 5: But I thought, you know, looking at that tournament, one

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Speaker 5: of the three or four bets players with the greatest

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Speaker 5: opportunity to win on that golf course was a guy

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Speaker 5: like Cam Young, that can that can dominate with his driver,

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Speaker 5: that's seen his putter improve here recently, and listen, golf's

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Speaker 5: all about luck. I mean, three weeks before that, I

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Speaker 5: had Shane Lowry sitting on the sixteenth tee with a

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Speaker 5: three shot lead going against a bunch of scrubs and

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Speaker 5: he couldn't get.

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Speaker 2: The job done.

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Speaker 5: So I mean golf, golf betting is torturous. And when

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Speaker 5: you get lucky like I did last week and run

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Speaker 5: down a guy of the quality of a lud big

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Speaker 5: Oberg and meat sauce, you take your wins and move

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Speaker 5: on because they're few and far between.

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Speaker 9: What what did you do on eighteen when Cam hit

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Speaker 9: like a three year talk eighty yard freaking ICBM on

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Speaker 9: that course well and effectively put himself in his spot

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Speaker 9: where now he's got He's still got to finish that hole,

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Speaker 9: obviously in the right way, but that thing was a

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Speaker 9: freaking missile.

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Speaker 5: It's the greatest drive I've ever seen with that pressure

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be totally honest. I'm a I used

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Speaker 5: As they're walking to the tee, I'm texting with one

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Speaker 5: of my golf loving buddies. I'm like, if I'm his caddie,

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Speaker 5: I will not take the head cover off the driver.

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Speaker 2: I will not let him hit driver.

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Speaker 5: Because the day before Nordal he plays a draw right,

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Speaker 5: that's his bit. He hit a great drive that got

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, hit an iron off the tee.

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Speaker 5: Put the pressure on Fitzpatrick, knowing if you'd an iron

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Speaker 5: and he says, screw it. I'm taking the driver and

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Speaker 5: I'm putting the heat on this guy. And I'm telling

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Speaker 5: you right now. Once he hit that drive, he forced

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Speaker 5: the hand of Fitzpatrick, who doesn't move the ball right

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Speaker 5: to left and hits a straight line drive all the time.

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Speaker 5: And that went through the fairway. And that's to me

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Speaker 5: where the tournament was one and lost.

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Speaker 8: Nine to Noon is happy to share that Marcus Felino

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Speaker 8: not only will join nine to Noon today at about

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Speaker 8: eleven twenty for the Felino face off with him and

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Speaker 8: his brother Nick, a member of the Minnesota Wild raising

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Speaker 8: money or Hockey Fights Cancer. So Moose at about eleven

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Speaker 8: twenty today, but Moose on the ice today at ten am.

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Speaker 8: Moose is skating at ten am. Yours surely received permission

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Speaker 8: to share that before ten am. Wow, I think it's

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Speaker 8: good news.

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Speaker 5: It's great news, and I think if you look at

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Speaker 5: this final month of the season, and you know, wherever

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Speaker 5: I go, you know, people want to what's going on

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Speaker 5: with the wild You know, what do you think is

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Speaker 2: Who are they gonna play? The bottom line is this,

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Speaker 2: They've put themselves in.

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Speaker 5: A great position in the toughest division, top end in

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Speaker 5: the National Hockey League. All I'm asking for is in

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Speaker 5: one month's time when the playoffs start, they are healthy

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Speaker 5: and they're ready to roll. If they've got everybody going

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Speaker 5: at that point, I'm good. The wins and losses between

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be the three seed.

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Speaker 5: They're either gonna play Colorado or Dallas, and they're gonna

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Speaker 5: be the underdog, and they're gonna go on the road.

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Speaker 2: And I'm good with all of.

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Speaker 5: It because this team is good enough to beat either

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Speaker 5: one of those squads. I want this team to be healthy,

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Speaker 5: and for me, you need Marcus Felino, you need Joe

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Speaker 5: ricksonak and I am super intrigued by Bobby Brink. All

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Speaker 5: three right now are dealing with something. I don't care

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Speaker 5: if and when they come back in the next couple

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Speaker 5: of weeks, I do care what this team looks like

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Speaker 5: in that last week leading into the end of the

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Speaker 5: regular season and that epic playoff matchup.

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Speaker 2: Whoever it's against.

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Speaker 8: All right now, I'm really really glad you went down

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Speaker 8: the roads in your spotty because I'd like to vet

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Speaker 8: out a couple of things with you for the John

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Speaker 8: Hines interview at ten thirty five here at Trea in

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Speaker 8: Saint Paul for Box in the Box, And that would

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Speaker 8: be first when when addressing now, I don't think you

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Speaker 8: would address the head coach with that point about here's

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Speaker 8: your lot in life. You're going to be on the road.

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Speaker 8: It's going to be one of those two, which is factual.

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Speaker 8: But like when you're talking to a coach, you just

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Speaker 8: do things a little differently, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Maybe let him get there right right there, we gonna

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Speaker 5: say no, biggie right in his eyes. They can win, okay,

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Speaker 5: kind of a row and maybe the Dallas Stars will

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Speaker 5: actually lose a game.

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Speaker 2: Here we go week or two.

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Speaker 8: We watched that game last night, absolutely, I mean, holy cow,

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Speaker 8: those guys combined for like seven to eleven goals every

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Speaker 2: What a tight checking playoff with different last night.

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Speaker 5: Last night, I look up at the at the shot clock,

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Speaker 5: because Ottingre was shootout and Colorado at one point was

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Speaker 5: out shooting Dallas twenty four to ten, and Otingre had

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Speaker 5: pulled two or three out of the end.

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Speaker 2: I mean literally point blank shots.

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Speaker 5: Nathan McKinnon opened that and he's whipping out the glove

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Speaker 2: The puck's going up his sleeve. It was ridiculous. And

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Speaker 2: so as I look at this and again back to.

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Speaker 5: The original conversation when my buddies asked me, people on

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Speaker 5: up with better? You know, listen, Colorado has been the

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Speaker 5: not played good hockey here down the stretch, and I

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Speaker 5: look at their goaltending and say, the Wild would have

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Speaker 5: a distinct advantage with the two that Minnesota has compared

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Speaker 5: to the two that Colorado has. To me, Minnesota probably

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Speaker 5: matches up better up front with Dallas.

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Speaker 2: But Jake Cottinger is a guy that scares me to death.

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Speaker 5: Right, He's one of the best in the world. He's

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Speaker 5: a Minnesota kid who has tremendous numbers against the Wild.

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Speaker 5: So if Dallas wants to run down Colorado, it's not

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 8: So here's what I want to vet out when when

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Speaker 8: you go down that conversation with a coach, it's you know,

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Speaker 8: because this is the final thirteen.

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Speaker 2: These for the most part, are human nature games.

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Speaker 8: So the players, whether they want to admit it or not,

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Speaker 8: they know what's next is exactly what you said they do.

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Speaker 8: So therefore I'm not, you know, certainly pinning the losses

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Speaker 8: against the Blackhawks, who are decent and getting better. But

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Speaker 8: the mindset now is not what it's gonna be in

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Speaker 8: three and a half weeks. So therefore, like, as a coach,

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Speaker 8: how do you handle that? And is there an opportunity

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Speaker 8: maybe to mix things up and like try some new

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Speaker 8: things just to see what it looks like, because you

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Speaker 8: know what your lot in life is.

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Speaker 5: It's a great question, Pa, And what magnifies the depth

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Speaker 5: of that question.

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Speaker 2: Is who this team is.

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Speaker 5: This is a veteran, experienced, talented team. And if you

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Speaker 5: look at the last couple of weeks and really handicap

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Speaker 5: how the Wild have played. And there have been some

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Speaker 5: games like you just mentioned where they have given away

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Speaker 5: points against non playoff teams. But when they have faced

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Speaker 5: the elite of the elite, the Vegas Is, the Colorado's,

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Speaker 5: the top esch Tampa Bay, they have elevated their game

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Speaker 5: to a place where that looks to me like a

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Speaker 2: You can't fool these guys.

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Speaker 5: Like they're not a bunch of twenty one year old

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Speaker 5: kids just eager to get out there every night. These

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Speaker 5: are veteran players. Look at Matt Zucarello, look at our

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Speaker 5: blue line with Spurgeon and Brodein. They know exactly what

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Speaker 8: Secondly, I'm are you a fan of three on three?

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Speaker 8: All right, So the point with Heinze and this, this

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Speaker 5: Knew it was never gonna last twenty minutes. But yes,

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Speaker 2: But to that end, I was talking about this yesterday.

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Speaker 9: So you can say, you look at that Blackhawks win

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Speaker 2: As they have this year.

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Speaker 5: Maybe the tread off the tire theory, because you're expending

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Speaker 5: But then I look at the minutes for brock Faber

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Speaker 5: Minnesota now with their star power likely gets the best

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Speaker 5: But what I really truly worry about throughout the season

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Speaker 5: it really comes down to one thing. This is a

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Speaker 2: The rest of it doesn't matter to me. It does

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Speaker 5: I've seen this team at their best against the league's best,

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Speaker 8: Look look after the Olympic break, because Caprisof didn't play,

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Speaker 8: I mean, carill was going two to everybody's wont you

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Speaker 2: Maybe still is.

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Speaker 8: I mean he's high end obviously, But like when everybody reconvened,

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Speaker 8: Caprisoff was playing with his hair on fire because he

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Speaker 2: And he was chomping at the bit, you know.

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Speaker 8: What a treat Dallas Saturday. Tell me it's not one

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Speaker 2: Game three o'clock downtown Saint Paul. It's gonna be like and.

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Speaker 8: Great and does fantastic work the ESPN three clomp with respect.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a van no give me Ed Zoe and

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Speaker 5: And listen, you guys got that one Saturday Saturday after

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Speaker 2: We're ready to rock Sam and shorts and flip flops.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 8: I'm the only one with whom I've chatted, and that

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Speaker 2: I prefer Colorado over Dallas. I don't mind it at all.

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Speaker 8: Wild haven't played Dallas since like mid December before Hughsey

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Speaker 8: Previously and the Stars beat the Wild at Dallas five

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Speaker 8: I like one one for us. I like how the

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Speaker 8: there you go, that's the separator, Brop.

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Speaker 8: If the separator from me, I would prefer Colorado. And

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Speaker 8: most people, including Wallsey, were like, you're an idiot. It's McKinnon.

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Speaker 5: Minnesota has owned the Golden Knights this year, not just

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Speaker 5: And I do think watching this penalty kill since the

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Speaker 5: much more impactful come playoff time. Another part of that

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Speaker 5: penalty kill. And then you get to talk to Marcus

444
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Speaker 5: Felino and his health what he can do on the

445
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Speaker 5: penalty kill. But you're right, John Hines and this penalty

446
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Speaker 5: kill has evolved all year long, and I think the

447
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 5: decision going back to training camp when he decided to

448
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 5: have a conversation with a guy like Matt Boldie's one

449
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Speaker 5: of their high end talented guys.

450
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Speaker 2: Risky move you guys to use.

451
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Speaker 5: Him, but that's the type of player he wants. Long, tall, rangy, stick,

452
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Speaker 5: can skate, has some hands.

453
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Speaker 2: It's worked.

454
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Speaker 5: This penalty kill has been a real process for Hines

455
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Speaker 5: in this coaching staff. But some of that momentum off

456
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Speaker 5: what the Red, White and Blue did. Certainly I think

457
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Speaker 5: is point of fact.

458
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Speaker 9: That mccerrn cat by the way, saw him this morning downstairs,

459
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Speaker 9: first time I've seen him in person. I mean, they're high,

460
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Speaker 9: they're high end athletes. We know that but Carell Caprice,

461
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Speaker 9: I think it. You know, hockey fans are not daft

462
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Speaker 9: to the idea that you meet some of these guys

463
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Speaker 9: in person. It's like they're five ten, five eleven, very

464
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Speaker 9: maybe unassuming, right, despite their significant athletic prowess. He looks

465
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Speaker 9: like it's like youth sports. And he's the kid that

466
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Speaker 9: had a beard in sixth grade. He's a freaking giant.

467
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Speaker 1: You know.

468
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Speaker 8: And we watched Fernando Mendoza for Indiana win the national championship,

469
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Speaker 8: that quarterback. I felt the same thing with him when

470
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Speaker 8: I walked by him in a hallway in the Indiana

471
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Speaker 8: Convention Center, No kidding, I couldn't believe how big he was.

472
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Speaker 8: I mean, this kid is massive. He doesn't look that big.

473
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Speaker 8: He's sixty five, but he's thick. I mean he's a big, big.

474
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Speaker 2: Still, he's just a big, giant unit of And.

475
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Speaker 8: I brought those things, those two things up because they play,

476
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Speaker 8: you know, like unlike NBA or MLB, they play with armor,

477
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Speaker 8: so you know, therefore you can't exactly and then hockey

478
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Speaker 8: players are on skate, you can't exactly tell what the

479
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Speaker 8: stature is. Like Quinn Hughes Husey, the offense and the

480
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Speaker 8: playmaking is dazzling. What about his defense? What about his

481
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Speaker 8: defense individually and his defense with the team? I mean, like,

482
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Speaker 8: what do you see and how is that considered league wide?

483
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Speaker 5: Well, I think if you watch him on a nightly basis,

484
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Speaker 5: which we are lucky to do here in Minnesota, you

485
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Speaker 5: see the gifts that he brings to the rank every

486
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Speaker 5: night and what he has to do defensively. Guys is

487
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Speaker 5: different than a Brock Favor and there's a reason they're paired.

488
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Speaker 2: Up because the size. Yeah, Brock is much.

489
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Speaker 5: Stronger in small spaces, can out muscle guys, can win

490
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Speaker 5: board battles. That's not really the game you're gonna see

491
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Speaker 5: from Quinn Hughes. What Hughes can do and what he

492
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Speaker 5: needs to do come playoff time, because I'm going to

493
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Speaker 5: tell you right now, whoever they play Dallas or Colorado

494
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Speaker 5: in that first round series, their coaches are going to

495
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Speaker 5: specifically say, we're chipping that puck in on the U

496
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Speaker 5: side and we're hitting forty three every chance we get,

497
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Speaker 5: because that gives them a better chance to win. And

498
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Speaker 5: that's something that Minnesota has to be ready for. And

499
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Speaker 5: the four on that side of the rink has to

500
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Speaker 5: help and hold up that four checker. But Hughes is

501
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Speaker 5: going to do what he does defensively with his rink

502
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Speaker 5: savvy and his speed, and when he's able to use

503
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Speaker 5: his puck skills to separate and get the puck, that's

504
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Speaker 5: where he's elite. Once he gets the puck defensively and

505
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Speaker 5: he can use his edges and his speed to escape,

506
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Speaker 5: we're on our way. What worries me is when we

507
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Speaker 5: get trapped and now it becomes a physical battle down low.

508
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Speaker 5: That is not the strength of his game. His strength

509
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Speaker 5: is once we get possession and we go because there's

510
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Speaker 5: nobody better at getting from point A to point being

511
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Speaker 5: leaving the zone.

512
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Speaker 8: Has he ever played in a playoff game? Let me

513
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Speaker 8: think about it again. They played in Nashville a couple

514
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Speaker 8: of years ago. Absolutely a great series. Yeah, Absolutely in

515
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Speaker 8: closing and sadly, Golden Gophers hockey coach Bob Motskow is

516
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Speaker 8: not going to be with the team anymore. The Golden

517
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Speaker 8: Gophers hockey program with Brad Frost and Bob Motskow are

518
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Speaker 8: moving in a different direction.

519
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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, well, I'll start by I just want to

520
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Speaker 5: say this and I took some heat on social media.

521
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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.

522
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Speaker 5: They're dear friends, and when I make a statement like

523
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Speaker 5: I did yesterday, I want to make it real clear.

524
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Speaker 5: They're great coaches that cannot be argued. They've been great

525
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Speaker 5: coaches for a long time. I'm lucky enough, like you

526
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Speaker 5: guys are to know some of these people personally and

527
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Speaker 5: see them behind the scenes and how they deal with

528
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Speaker 5: these student athletes and the character they bring to the

529
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Speaker 5: table and what they do too. Of the best I've

530
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Speaker 5: been around on both sides of the ledger to quality,

531
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Speaker 5: quality human beings, and it's disappointing. And listen, I don't

532
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Speaker 5: know the details. I don't know how the conversations went.

533
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Speaker 5: I just know that getting to know these guys, watching

534
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Speaker 5: them coach, seeing what they've done for their student athletes

535
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Speaker 5: for a long long time. And I've known Bobby going

536
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Speaker 5: back to his days in Saint Cloud twenty five years ago,

537
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Speaker 5: and he hasn't changed one bit. And I mean that

538
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Speaker 5: as a compliment. Brad Frost and Bob Moscow are two

539
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Speaker 5: of the finest individuals I've met in the game of hockey,

540
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Speaker 5: which I've been involved in now as a player, coaching

541
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Speaker 5: broadcaster for fifty plus years, so I'm disappointed. Understand where

542
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Speaker 5: the university's coming from. If they want to change, I

543
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 5: get it, but but I don't have to agree with it.

544
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Speaker 8: Bob texted me this morning. I'm in a good place.

545
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Speaker 8: Tough year to say the least, and never had one

546
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Speaker 8: of those before, but it's been an amazing run. I

547
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Speaker 8: turned sixty five next week. I believe I can find

548
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Speaker 8: a few things to do. Thanks for your kindness. I

549
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Speaker 8: appreciate our friendship. Go Viking, so yes, even even at

550
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Speaker 8: the end. Classy of all classy. Yeah, well I don't

551
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Speaker 8: I don't understand, like I reposted, retweeted, re xed that

552
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Speaker 8: that frost slash motsco tweet that you had, and I

553
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Speaker 8: haven't looked at social media since. I don't really understand

554
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Speaker 8: how anybody could take umbrage with now. Granted, it's the

555
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Speaker 8: age of rage. It's the age of rage, so anything's possible.

556
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Speaker 2: Correct.

557
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Speaker 8: However, it was a very kind tweet. What like, what

558
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Speaker 8: was the umbrage?

559
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Speaker 5: I just think people that want to be bitter are

560
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 5: going to be better, right, and they want to they

561
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Speaker 5: want to throw dirt on people's coaching careers and graves. Listen,

562
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Speaker 5: you're all entitled to your opinion. That's why we have

563
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Speaker 5: social media. I'm not going to take it personal, but

564
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Speaker 5: I'm going to stand by anything I send out. I'm

565
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Speaker 5: gonna try to stand by it. And I really do

566
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Speaker 5: believe Bob's awesome. Oh They're both great individual coaches, they're

567
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Speaker 5: great humans. And bottom line is, you look at what

568
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Speaker 5: they've done with their programs, and you know, Bob was

569
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Speaker 5: a part of a couple of national championship teams with

570
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Speaker 5: the Golfers and Don Lucia in the early two thousands.

571
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Speaker 5: You know those teams well. And then you look at

572
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Speaker 5: four national championships for Brad Frost on the quality of

573
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Speaker 5: players on and off the ice they've developed, and I'm like, listen,

574
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Speaker 5: it's hard for me not to be saddened by the

575
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Speaker 5: end of an era, and it's certainly on the women's side,

576
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Speaker 5: end of a twenty year run that's pretty well unmatched.

577
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm going to celebrate what I love about

578
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Speaker 5: those two individuals, and I think, as Bob said, they're

579
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Speaker 5: both going to find a new chapter here and land

580
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Speaker 5: on their feet. But you know, if you're the University

581
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Speaker 5: of Minnesota, you've set the bar pretty high with these

582
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Speaker 5: two coaches, so it'll be interesting to see how they

583
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Speaker 5: try to to elevate. I think Brett Larson up at

584
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Speaker 5: Saint Cloud is a name I'm hearing, and I love Brett.

585
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 5: I've known him for a long time. Another great guy

586
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: could be a really nice option. The Raboyne coach down

587
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 5: at Augustana is the name that pops up. And our

588
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: good friend Darby Hendrickson, I've seen his name pop up

589
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 5: at Nashville. I mean, I don't know that he has

590
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 5: interest in being a college coach because with nil and

591
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 5: the different landscape. Now, I love what North Dakota did.

592
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Speaker 5: They hired their new coach and they hired a general

593
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Speaker 5: manager in the same week, and so the coach was

594
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Speaker 5: in charge of finding players and recruiting and coaching his

595
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: hockey team, and the general manager is in charge of

596
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 5: the now business side of college athletics. Let's be honest,

597
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Speaker 5: it's completely different now than it was even five years ago.

598
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Speaker 2: Where's Grant Patolney these days?

599
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Speaker 8: Well, he was at Northern Michigan. He might be in

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Speaker 8: the Ahling.

601
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Speaker 5: There's another name that popped up, and there's a lot

602
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Speaker 5: of quality coaches for AHL team.

603
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

604
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Speaker 8: I'm sitting next to somebody, I mean the business portion

605
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Speaker 8: of the equation. I mean, I'm sitting next to somebody

606
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Speaker 8: who won seventy five percent of their games at the

607
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Speaker 8: D three level. We got I mean, we got two

608
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Speaker 8: big spot opens right here. Yeah, and with respect to

609
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Speaker 8: Frost and Motsco, he's certainly not kicking, you know, Perbi

610
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Speaker 8: dir right, it's on.

611
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Speaker 2: He's in Hartford, Hartford, h Hartford. But it but things

612
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Speaker 2: do move on. Seventy winner here at age fifty.

613
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Speaker 8: You can coach man, I mean you might not win,

614
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Speaker 8: but hat and the Ringer though, no, I'm good with

615
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Speaker 8: where I'm at.

616
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Speaker 2: You get to noon support, bro. I love that. Ow

617
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Speaker 2: we'd be on those squads. We'd get a weekly.

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Speaker 9: Segment, absolutely would five days a week. You know, it's

619
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Speaker 9: crazy to be unbelievable as an outsider. Though you know

620
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Speaker 9: the the Frozen Fours, you don't you don't hang the banner.

621
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Speaker 9: I get that, But I just remember early on, when

622
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Speaker 9: when I first started with PA, we'd have Pronger with

623
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Speaker 9: a ponytail on and Brad Frost and company, you know,

624
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Speaker 9: save for a nasty one to Clarkson.

625
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Speaker 2: One year they're winning.

626
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Speaker 9: Back to bacinating dominating everybody. Everybody is fighting for a

627
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Speaker 9: chance to run second to go for women. Meanwhile, at

628
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Speaker 9: Mariuccine again as an outsider, it's freaking friends and family

629
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Speaker 9: night during in conference games, right, and you're fighting the

630
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 9: transition to Big ten. The ticket prices. People are complaining

631
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Speaker 9: about that. How do we get students to care go

632
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 9: for hockey again? Well, Bosco is a massive reason why

633
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Speaker 9: why they were filling Merriot for sure, and I just

634
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 9: hope lost in it.

635
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Speaker 2: It's like, it's eight years you didn't win the banner.

636
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Speaker 9: This is probably an A plus job opportunity in the

637
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Speaker 9: college hockey world, and so I get all that, but

638
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Speaker 9: after eight seasons, just appreciated maybe some of those aspects

639
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Speaker 9: of it. He brought this thing back to a very

640
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Speaker 9: good place, a healthy place, and.

641
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Speaker 2: He brought the juice back.

642
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Speaker 5: They lost an overtime in twenty three, so almost three

643
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Speaker 5: years ago, heartbreaking lossie.

644
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Speaker 2: At the home and and favor all leave.

645
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Speaker 5: I want I'm glad you brought those names up because

646
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Speaker 5: he's had ten to twelve stud players in the last

647
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Speaker 5: couple of years. Mon and now they're they're not just

648
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: playing in the National Hockey League, their go to star

649
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: players in this league. Matthew NIC's logan Cooley were Olympics

650
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 5: rock favor. Just look at the talent this guy has developed.

651
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Speaker 5: And so I go back to what I originally said,

652
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Speaker 5: and then my tweet stated that as best I could. Yeah,

653
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Speaker 5: I'm disappointed. I'm excited for their future. I wish the

654
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: golfers well, but you're gonna have a hard time, in

655
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Speaker 5: my eyes, finding much better than what we've had on

656
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Speaker 5: both the women and the men's side with those two coaches.

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Speaker 8: Well, we'll be here a ton the rest of the

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Speaker 8: regular season and certainly during the postseason. So next time

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Speaker 8: your best ninety seconds on waddle joining your your your

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Speaker 8: favorite football team. Bonnicks gets a quarterback. I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: I think the Broncos are developing into the team to

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Speaker 5: beat on the AFC side.

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Speaker 2: Wait, do you see this Mendoza. I don't want New

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Speaker 2: England to get that impressive. No, he's good, he's good.

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Speaker 5: No, But I think when you take a look at

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Speaker 2: Listen Acklenberg off the edge, Yeah, double moves.

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Speaker 8: Moses hunts back love twenty five us off the play,

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Speaker 2: Roll Davis the mile high salute.

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Speaker 8: This one's for John. Yeah, we got it all covered.

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Speaker 8: You are the best. Great job with the Frost last

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Speaker 8: night too. By the way, I caught it one after

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Speaker 8: the first. I caught you between periods one and two

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Speaker 8: with the ladies playing the games and stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: And the Frost look good, so go look really good.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, Parker Fox's fiance, she's so good.

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Speaker 5: Taylor Heisei is such a superstar. In the interview she

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Speaker 5: did with us off the game, she's breaking down goals

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Speaker 5: on the JumboTron while she's talking this the ice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was.

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Speaker 5: Incredible her personality, she is so good. I love watching

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Speaker 5: her and the Frost compete. We love you, but thank

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Speaker 8: Saint Paul for a Minnesota Wildbox in the Box fans

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Speaker 8: are beginning to file in for the Wild Morning Skate,

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Speaker 8: which begins about.

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Speaker 2: Twenty minutes from now and nine to noon.

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Speaker 8: The Breaking News Journalistic Excellence has reported that Marcus Felina

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Speaker 8: will be skating today at ten o'clock. So I have

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Speaker 8: looked at the X machine, but Kevin Faulness is generally

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Speaker 8: pretty good at listening to nine to Noon and putting

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Speaker 8: out breaking news for nine to noon, not because he

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Speaker 8: so supports the radio show or station, which he does

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Speaker 8: not because he wants to get it out there and

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Speaker 8: like get his repost and or like slot machine rolling,

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Speaker 8: which he probably does, but mostly because to Noon reported

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Speaker 8: it before Russo Radio, and that means a lot to

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Speaker 8: Kevin Faullness, and play means a lot to nine to noon.

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Speaker 8: Russo joins about thirty minutes from now, just quickly on

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Speaker 8: the Minnesota Timberwolves because set Hal is in deep stretch

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Speaker 8: and face some face some consternation before they they beat

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Speaker 8: Phoenix and dismantled. Utah Iyo Desumu goes to the starting

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Speaker 8: point guard spot with Anthony Edwards sitting out and you know,

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Speaker 8: not so much off the victory against Utah. But I've

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Speaker 8: seen on the social media machine multiple, multiple angles on

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Speaker 8: what the Timberwolves do defensively when Anthony Edwards does not play,

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Speaker 8: and it's more than a small sample size.

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Speaker 2: All right, uh, and it's all regular season related.

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Speaker 8: Now, the times that he doesn't play in games, it's

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Speaker 8: either he's playing in the game, but he's out, and

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Speaker 8: here's what happens to the defense, or he's just flat

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Speaker 8: not playing in the game, and here's what happens to

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Speaker 8: the defense. So as I wouldn't bring it up if

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Speaker 8: it wasn't like, hey, they're allowing fewer points here, they're

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Speaker 8: allowing fewer.

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Speaker 2: Of this here.

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Speaker 8: It gives a perception that they are stingier when Anthony

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Speaker 8: Edwards does not play, which analytically is the case. I

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Speaker 8: just in fact, after the Phoenix game, Finchy, who joins

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Speaker 8: nine to noon tomorrow, right out of the gate at

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Speaker 8: nine o'clock after the Phoenix victory, Finchy paraphrasing said, it's

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Speaker 8: the best on ball defense they've played all season. Okay,

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Speaker 8: so are we sending messages? Are we just stating a

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Speaker 8: fact from that game?

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Speaker 2: I would lean to the latter.

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Speaker 8: And here's the point, do we for a second, does

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Speaker 8: anybody who follows basketball, Anthony Edwards or this team for

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Speaker 8: a second think Anthony Edwards can't lock down almost any

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Speaker 8: player in the NBA if he's close to full health

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Speaker 8: and he's engaged, and he thinks about it, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think anybody that is in their right mind would

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Speaker 2: think that.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well, then so is it just for fodder to post, Hey,

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Speaker 8: here's what's happening when he's not on the court defensively,

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Speaker 8: Because this I've said it for years and a million times,

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Speaker 8: involving Kyrie, Irving, Dirk Novitsky, Robie Wallace, anybody, just just

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Speaker 8: some of the players who are like I don't play

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Speaker 8: defense only I gotta watch final two minutes. Okay, here's

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Speaker 8: the deal. I'm going to say almost anybody in the league,

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Speaker 8: because I'm not going to disrespect Shay Gilgs, Alexander and

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Speaker 8: probably a handful of others. But if Anthony Edwards one

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Speaker 8: on one wanted to stop Luka Doncic, Luka Doncic would

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Speaker 8: not get around Anthony Edwards. But then you get picks.

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Speaker 8: So do we go over picks in certain sets? Do

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Speaker 8: we go under picks? There's so much that goes into it.

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Speaker 8: I'm simply saying, if near full health Anthony Edwards, when engaged,

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Speaker 8: which has to happen during the postseason, can shut down

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Speaker 8: almost any play in the NBA. Emphasis on if he's

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Speaker 8: engaged in the posts in the postseason, why wouldn't he

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Speaker 8: be engaged?

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I do know what you mean.

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Speaker 9: In an NFL re ant terrorism out there, well, I

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Speaker 9: think the ant well, the ant terrorism I think has

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Speaker 9: been building for a long time. I kind of I

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Speaker 9: tried to bring it up with with Lavell yesterday and

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Speaker 9: we kind of went in a different direction. But it

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Speaker 9: does feel recently there there's the recent so in regard

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Speaker 9: to the defense, I think the recency of the conversation

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Speaker 9: topics surrounding the team, the inconsistency the coaching, game player,

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Speaker 9: the lack of defense at calling himself out, those sorts

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Speaker 9: of things. I do feel recently as well, it's almost

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Speaker 9: like it's become acceptable now to start.

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Speaker 2: To question Anthony Edward, albeit still just twenty four.

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Speaker 9: We have these Michael Jordan comparisons that you know, that

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Speaker 9: kind of stuff bubbling a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: There's momentum.

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Speaker 9: There's two straight Western Conference Finals appearances there there appears

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Speaker 9: to be it's almost like the the chains have come

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Speaker 9: off on the on the talker that there's maybe some

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Speaker 9: maturity issues there, maybe he plays emotionally.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it is.

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Speaker 9: Truly a switch turning moment for him, where the Tuesday

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Speaker 9: night in December doesn't appear to mean as much as

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Speaker 9: the Sunday Mattinee with the big timers. It doesn't matter, correct,

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Speaker 9: And you know that's potentially that's that's potentially a league

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Speaker 9: wide issue, that's an entertainment issue, that's a fan frustration

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Speaker 9: issue as part of that. So that's a grander conversation

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Speaker 9: that certainly doesn't uh seek single out Anthony Edwards, but

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Speaker 9: to that vein in the moment when you're trying to

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Speaker 9: find like, man, what can Desumu do? Like you were

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Speaker 9: asking the other day, Hey, you know what if he

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Speaker 9: did start at point guard, what does that look like? Well,

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Speaker 9: Desumo without ant, these last two games just look freaking terrific.

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Speaker 9: Bones Highland the defense that you're seeing bones and knobs,

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Speaker 9: in particular in that Phoenix game that was tiede turning

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Speaker 9: when those two guys went in and it played out

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Speaker 9: in some of the analytics.

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Speaker 2: That you're talking about.

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Speaker 9: So I can't imagine anybody is seriously thinking Ant can't

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Speaker 9: play defense. But I do think that there is the

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Speaker 9: recency of those conversation tops combined with a couple of

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Speaker 9: victories that the team needed, maybe sparks some of that,

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Speaker 9: you know, that social media fodder, maybe the fleeting nature

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Speaker 9: of it.

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Speaker 8: I think we will get into that potentially more in

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Speaker 8: an hour, a little bit more, and maybe tomorrow on

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Speaker 8: the Friday Football Feast when we return. Wild radio play

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Speaker 8: by play voice Joe O'Donnell joins us from TREA. It's

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Speaker 8: Box in the Box on kf A.

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Speaker 7: N the Center, Superrills.

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Speaker 9: Goes mad, Superrell Win, Get it over time.

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Speaker 7: Nice set up by Johansson and with a buck fifty

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Speaker 7: one to go on the extra.

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Speaker 6: Session of the Wild prevailing this one.

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Speaker 4: For three from United Center.

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Speaker 8: Called by Joe O'Donnell, the play by play voice for

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Speaker 8: the Minnesota Wild on the k FAM Minnesota Wild or

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Speaker 8: Radio Network, and Joe joins us now viax It's at

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Speaker 8: Wild Joe Radio. What with the with the Blackhawks in

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Speaker 8: town tonight? What's the what's the bit with the Twitter

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Speaker 8: pregame video?

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Speaker 2: Have you done it? Yet and like, what's the premise

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Speaker 2: going to be in good morning.

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Speaker 6: Great to have me on, I'm sure from your perspective. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 6: just an amazing, amazing, uh development, you go.

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Speaker 4: From Gorg to me. I mean, this is just a

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Speaker 4: lineup of lineups. You got Heinze coming on.

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Speaker 8: Oh, Russo Panto, Yeah, and Moose. We broke news earlier

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Speaker 8: Marcus Felino is going to skate today at ten o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's news to me.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 6: Well, thanks guys. Always a pleasure, seriously, good to see you.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate you having me on. It's another great day for

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Speaker 6: hockey in the state of hockey. I'm looking forward to tonight.

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Speaker 6: We'll see if the Wild can figure out a way

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Speaker 6: to sweep this season series from the Blackhawks and just

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Speaker 6: keep it rolling. Like you know, like Kag was saying

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Speaker 6: in your previous segment, there like not a lot still

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Speaker 6: to be decided. We probably know it's going to be

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Speaker 6: the Wild in the first round against the Stars of

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Speaker 6: the Avalanche. It's about being healthy, it's about having good goaltending,

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Speaker 6: feeling good about your game. And you know, I really

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Speaker 6: like the way this Wild team looks and is kind

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Speaker 6: of trending towards getting to the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: But Joe Radio three two at Wild Joe Radio via X,

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Speaker 8: what's the bit with the Twitter pregame video?

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Speaker 2: Have you done it yet and what you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Do with it?

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Speaker 6: I haven't done it yet that I'll get to it

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Speaker 6: here at some point, probably wait to see, you know,

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Speaker 6: get some scoops. Who's starting in net. It's a ball,

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Speaker 6: said Gus. I'd like to have some of those things

873
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Speaker 6: with the morning Skate minute. It's not always done in

874
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 6: the morning, as some people let me know on the

875
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: Twitter Machine Stage of rage, but hey, sometimes there's no

876
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 6: morning skates, so you gotta wait till the afternoon to

877
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 6: get your scoop.

878
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 8: Page of rage is even coming after the nicest guy

879
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 8: in the world, Joe. We're saying it's the morning minute skate,

880
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 8: but he did in the afternoon.

881
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: You just tried to do some alliteration, but maybe it's

882
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: shortly after lunch.

883
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, well that's that. You can't do alliteration with that. Hey,

884
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 9: you know, speaking of that, you play a team two

885
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 9: days ago. Yeah, get them again. From a preparatory standpoint,

886
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 9: as the radio guy, do you kind of like these

887
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 9: little home and home bits where you know, you didn't

888
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 9: have to spend ninety minutes last night reminding yourself about

889
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 9: the Blackhawks. You just saw them at the United Center,

890
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 9: So it's a little bit we don't throw away the

891
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 9: pregame preph these opportunities.

892
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was easy yesterday opening up the laptop and

893
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 6: just kind of updating a few things.

894
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: I'll do a little bit more today.

895
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 6: But it's not nearly as in the weeds as you

896
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 6: would if you hadn't seen a team like Dallas, who

897
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 6: you're gonna play here on Saturday in the wild. Haven't

898
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 6: seen them in a couple of months, So not as

899
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 6: much to get caught up on speed, get caught up

900
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 6: on these guys, you know, with regard to the Blackhawks,

901
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 6: obviously you know the Wild. We're almost seventy games into

902
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 6: this seventy games into this thing now tonight, so we're

903
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 6: getting down to it.

904
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: Should be a fun one.

905
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 6: I really expect a while to continue to again play

906
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 6: well and hopefully sow things up from a playoff standpoint.

907
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 6: I can't imagine it's gonna take many more wins for

908
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 6: them to officially punch their ticket. I mean, they had

909
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 6: ninety seven points last year that was good enough to

910
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 6: get in fact, ninety six points got Saint Louis in

911
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 6: the Wild are at ninety right now, and there's more

912
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 6: parody this year. So I don't know that they'll officially

913
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 6: get their X next to the name here in the

914
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 6: next couple of days, but they're certainly putting themselves in

915
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 6: a spot where it's just a matter of who they're

916
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 6: playing and when they're playing them.

917
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 9: Well, Gore hit us with a stat earlier in the hour, Joe,

918
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 9: where I don't think that the Wild have lost to

919
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 9: the Blackhawks, and regulations said, I mean, we didn't know

920
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 9: what masks were.

921
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: The last time. Yeah, that the Blackhawks beat this team.

922
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 9: But going back to the other night, you're on site

923
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 9: on scene with Tom the early urgency that you wanted

924
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 9: to see after some tough games last weekend, but then

925
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 9: the Blackhawks found their way back into it. What did

926
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 9: you make of that and is there anything you can

927
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 9: glean in terms of maybe something even different tonight?

928
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little.

929
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 6: Sleepy in the second and third period from a Minnesota perspective. Honestly,

930
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 6: I didn't love the two goals Augustuson gave up to

931
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 6: allow Chicago to back in the game.

932
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 4: The one was an uncontested slap shot.

933
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 6: Now, granted, it was the hardest recorded shot in the

934
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 6: NHL this year that resulted in a goal. If you

935
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 6: you know, if you're under the hood analytics guy NHL

936
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 6: edge said, it was one hundred and two mile an

937
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: hour shot each from the young defenseman that beat Gus Haveson.

938
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: But the second one as well was just like a snap.

939
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 6: Shot that goes off as chest protector, creates some chaos

940
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 6: ends up in the back of the net. I think

941
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 6: Gus would tell you he'd probably like to have both

942
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 6: of them back either way nor no. To your point,

943
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 6: great start from Minnesota the other night, they find a

944
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 6: way to the two points. They're eighteen to zero to

945
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 6: one in their last nineteen against Chicago. The last time

946
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 6: the Blackhawks beat the Wild in regulation, I mean the

947
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 6: Wild didn't get a point in Chicago got to Patrick

948
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 6: Kane had a hat trick and there is not one

949
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 6: single player on the Blackhawks roster from that game still

950
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 6: in their lineup today.

951
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

952
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 6: Ryan Donado was playing for Minnesota at the time. He's

953
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 6: now on Chicago and Cappo Kakan was in net.

954
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 8: Now in fairness, okay, in fairness, the last time nine

955
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 8: to noon maybe with you or somebody else went down

956
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 8: that road loudly.

957
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: Maybe been about a week ago.

958
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: No, it was.

959
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 8: It was some weird long standing number against Montreal. Oh

960
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 8: and Paul Coffield went Wayne Gretzky on us that night,

961
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 8: I remember, and from the right circle won the game

962
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 8: with like fourteen seconds ago.

963
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 4: I mean you just got I mean, it's going to

964
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: play the games.

965
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: It's hockey now. Now you mentioned analytics.

966
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 8: When it comes to analytics, inside the weeds of the analytics, yes,

967
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 8: how pertinent is it to you?

968
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: How pertinent do you think it is in hockey?

969
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 9: Right?

970
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 8: Like it all started with baseball and analytics with baseball

971
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 8: with the pitcher and the shifting of the infielders.

972
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: And I mean it's it's ten to ten and it

973
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: has been for a while.

974
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 8: But a lot the other pro sports, I don't want

975
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 8: to say they're trying to wedge it in or force

976
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 8: it in or whatever, but it just doesn't feel as

977
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 8: natural with other sports as baseball.

978
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 6: It's growing certainly in hockey PA and has been probably

979
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 6: the last I don't know anytime I feel like I

980
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 6: referenced something, oh, you know, the last couple of years

981
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 6: it's really been more than that. So let's just say

982
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 6: seven to eight years, seven to ten years that the

983
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 6: analytics are really.

984
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: Grown in hockey.

985
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 6: But in fact, I asked John Hines about this the

986
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 6: other day, interestingly enough, just because I wanted to see, like,

987
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 6: how big of an analytics guy he is, and he said,

988
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 6: when he was with the New Jersey Devils, you know

989
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 6: that they had a way of doing it.

990
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 4: When he was with Nashville, they had a way of

991
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: doing it.

992
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 6: And so I think he feels like he's he's pretty

993
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: comfortable with the analytical stuff, you know, he's he's also

994
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 6: pretty big in the sports science because when he was

995
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 6: with the national team program, he had, you know, he

996
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: had some background in that stuff. So there's a few

997
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 6: elements in layers, kind of like you said, under the

998
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 6: hood that that the casual fan might not consider from

999
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 6: an analytics standpoint, or working with the strength coach on

1000
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 6: how much to push these guys on a day like today.

1001
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 6: So I think there's a lot there that's growing in

1002
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 6: the game of hockey. John Hines appreciates it, seems, likes

1003
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 6: what he gets from the staff here. Matt Sells kind

1004
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 6: of heads up the analytical group he's one of the

1005
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 6: Wild's assistant gms. They get some information that's kind of

1006
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 6: translated to them into layman's terms, and then they can

1007
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 6: take that info and if they want more, hind says

1008
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 6: he's more than comfortable going to the staff and say

1009
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 6: I also want this. But for the most part he

1010
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 6: gets some meat potatoes and what Macona does well some

1011
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 6: of those analytics, and then they.

1012
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 4: Take that put in the game plan.

1013
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 9: I just I think sometimes you can drown in that stuff,

1014
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 9: and maybe a lot of people would think that I

1015
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 9: have a dinosaur opinion on it.

1016
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: But where baseball is, there's so much stop and start,

1017
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 4: so you.

1018
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 9: Can create, you know, a borderline of a pitch or

1019
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 9: in a bat or an infield play of some sort.

1020
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 9: You can create borders around that the fluid nature of

1021
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 9: this game. I'm glad you brought up training because I

1022
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 9: think training and endurance and what you can put on

1023
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 9: the shoulders of these players is certainly something where you

1024
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 9: can dig deeply into. But in the end, there is

1025
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 9: a lot of well, we need to put the puck

1026
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 9: in the right spots, and there's still like there's some

1027
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 9: basics or rudimentary the way kid might see the game. Yep,

1028
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 9: it still kind of holds true in regard to hockey.

1029
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 6: Move your feets, get the fucking deep, you know, limit

1030
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 6: your turnovers, get the saves when you need them. Those

1031
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 6: aren't analytics, right, Those are like the that's the recipe,

1032
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 6: that's that's your basic recipe for baking the cake or

1033
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 6: whatever you want to say.

1034
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: And you know you can jazz it up.

1035
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 6: You can, you can add certain things to it, but

1036
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 6: certainly with the way this game moves and the way

1037
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 6: the compete is needed to have a success at a

1038
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 6: high level, I don't think you can get two in

1039
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 6: deep with the analytics when you're just talking about, hey,

1040
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 6: let's go out there, win your match up, finish your check,

1041
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 6: and bury the puck.

1042
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: When you have a chance.

1043
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: We're seventeen.

1044
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 8: I'm never, ever, ever gonna try to break news again

1045
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 8: if Marcus Follino is not part of this skate. So

1046
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 8: by me saying that, Nordo immediately laughed because he loves

1047
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 8: when I'm wrong. But I was told Marcus Follino is

1048
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 8: skating today. I was told it was okay to share it.

1049
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 8: He's going to join the show at eleven twenty.

1050
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, hang on, Undre he's still that's two minutes

1051
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 6: until he's officially late.

1052
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: What if this is a sicky special hockey players are

1053
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: late and it's the best I mean yeah, I mean

1054
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 2: what if the con game is in Yeah?

1055
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: If there he is that right there?

1056
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: The moose, the moose, the moose is on fire. Go

1057
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: ahead and doubt nine to noon breaking new skills again.

1058
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: I just took off to show the flow to the fans.

1059
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: Were float to the fans. Fans are here with the

1060
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: flow twenty nine to noon.

1061
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 8: Flow on the fan, not Brian Flores but Polino's flow.

1062
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 8: As as the Eagles window to win uh more super

1063
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 8: Bowls closed?

1064
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 4: Are you trying to upset me?

1065
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: No?

1066
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 9: Is it?

1067
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 8: Is it not?

1068
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: Is it closing? Has it closed?

1069
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 6: I don't think it's closed, but not as optimistic as

1070
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 6: I might have been eighteen months ago, six months ago,

1071
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 6: last week.

1072
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: Well that's a Philly fan.

1073
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: Yes, we call it Megadelphia.

1074
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: Right.

1075
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 4: The sky is always falling, even after you win a championship.

1076
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 8: The you see with the Giants sign recently New York Giants. No, uh,

1077
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 8: this beatfeeder named Patrick Workard. I don't know if you're familiar.

1078
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 8: Fullback right there, we go played it like Maine surprised.

1079
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 8: Belichick didna Maine has football? Yeah, and he was like

1080
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 8: a linebacker and he switched positions. Here's the deal. You

1081
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 8: got that cat in front of Scataboo. No, boy, holy cow,

1082
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 8: better beef up on that defense there, Joey. I mean,

1083
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 8: ricard Is Scataboo man Scataboo.

1084
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: Ain't that heavy.

1085
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: Two guys that leave with their helmet, right, but.

1086
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 8: They're both beefeaters. Now in your division, do you have

1087
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 8: a preference Colorado or Dallas?

1088
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: And why so?

1089
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 6: A couple months back, I told, you know, some of

1090
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 6: our probably gorg and whoever else is on the airplane

1091
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 6: or wherever.

1092
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Speaker 4: We were, like, Bobby brings out here too for the wild.

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Speaker 4: So that's a good sign.

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Speaker 6: Arno broke that at nine oh two, and I was like,

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Speaker 6: you know what, I think, Colorado, because the Ottainger bit

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Speaker 6: is still your term, kind of frightens me, Like I

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Speaker 6: don't know that Mackenzie Blackwood and Scott Wedgwood have the

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Speaker 6: cachet that Ottinger has.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: So to me, I'm like, all right, Colorado's sort of

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Speaker 6: a one line team. He shut them out with our

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Speaker 6: good checking forwards and Eric Sinek and our good d

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Speaker 6: pairs and maybe, you know, maybe you can get by Dallas,

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Speaker 6: probably a little bit deeper, I think, if you look

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Speaker 6: if they're healthy. But I watched those two teams played

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Speaker 6: last night and there wasn't an inch of free ice

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Speaker 6: and they were beating the snot out of each other

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Speaker 6: for a couple of periods there where I was watching.

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Speaker 6: So it was two shots to zero for the longest

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Speaker 6: time I know. And so now I'm like, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 6: I think to Gorge's point in your previous segment, it's

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Speaker 6: gonna be a little bit of a war of attrition

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Speaker 6: no matter who you play in that first round.

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Speaker 4: I just again hope for the while to have some

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Speaker 4: good health.

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Speaker 6: The goaltending is in a good spot, and if they

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Speaker 6: go out and play well in Game one, you know

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Speaker 6: you got a way better chance to win the series.

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Speaker 2: You're the best.

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Speaker 8: Keep calling good ones. Give me a fist pump right here.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate you, guy. Enjoy the skate, thanks man, and

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Speaker 8: the morning skate minute, which will probably be recorded at

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Speaker 8: one in the afternoon an age of Bradge we'll get after.

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Speaker 8: It'd be a midday minute. By the way, close circuit

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Speaker 8: to the Age of rage. We called this box in

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Speaker 8: the box, which does not make me voy to the people,

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Speaker 8: and we are not actually in a box, but we

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Speaker 8: call it box in the box.

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Speaker 2: And that's just how it's worked for fifteen years. Brusso

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