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Speaker 4: Water Systems hotline. Let me ask you a very broad

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Speaker 4: based question before we get into some vikings material. Do

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Speaker 4: you let's go back to when Ben Lieber was playing

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Speaker 4: the game of professional football.

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Speaker 1: I think I know where you're trying to set this

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Speaker 4: Well, you may or may not be. I think you're

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Speaker 4: I don't. I think I might disappoint you. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 4: here's my question. Seasons during seasons in which you did

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Speaker 4: not make the post see your team, the team you

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Speaker 4: played for did not make the postseason? H did you

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Speaker 4: completely tune out the rest of the playoffs? Want to

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Speaker 4: get as far away from the TV, from the plasma,

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Speaker 4: big screen four K that you could, or were you

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Speaker 4: completely and utterly committed to continuing to follow your game.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a really good question, because I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it is situational. I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: if you're so close, or you know you you lose

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Speaker 1: look back, there's been seasons where I'm like, I don't care.

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Speaker 1: watch it done. I'm out of here. Let me just

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Speaker 4: Closely about the year where you were unfairly called past

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Speaker 4: interference and they're therefore deprived the opportunity to participate in

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Speaker 1: That one was a little a little tougher, a little

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Speaker 1: Well, it all, it's sort of all. It is all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the injury one interest me because I don't want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's an honest answer. I mean what I

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Speaker 3: Playing time is my currency right now.

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Speaker 4: I gotta be out there whenever I can, you know,

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Speaker 1: But I also think that it's human nature. Given the

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Speaker 1: But let's just say that this game was not for nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And now I think I had a very

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Speaker 4: Although I don't want to speak for you regarding the

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Speaker 4: That just looked awkward and stupid and none necessary for

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Speaker 3: What what? But did you were you as bothered by

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Speaker 1: And I think I've used this same this same terminology

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Speaker 3: Two does he have to get stronger?

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Speaker 4: I mean, has he got the kind of base where

438
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Speaker 4: he could he could be cut I just now you're

439
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Speaker 4: around him much more than I am, obviously, and I

440
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Speaker 4: know he's not like you know, he's not Doug Flutie,

441
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Speaker 4: he's not five to nine or anything. But he just

442
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Speaker 4: doesn't seem to me to have a very strong physical presence.

443
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Speaker 4: Does he need is that something he can do? Is

444
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Speaker 4: does he have the kind of body that allows him

445
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Speaker 4: to do that? Or is that meaningless to you?

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Speaker 1: No, I think it's I think it's meaningful. I don't

447
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Speaker 1: know if it's I don't even know if it's the

448
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Speaker 1: number one thing that he has to prioritize. You know,

449
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Speaker 1: we did see when he was injured and how much

450
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Speaker 1: weight he actually lost when he couldn't work out and

451
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Speaker 1: couldn't do the things he wanted with the lower body injury,

452
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Speaker 1: so we know his weight can fluctuate if if he's

453
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Speaker 1: not conscious about it. But he is twenty two years old.

454
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Speaker 1: I mean the same thing can be said about Dallas Turner.

455
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Speaker 1: I mean they still have yet to develop their man body,

456
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Speaker 1: and yeah, they're not going to be in their prime

457
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Speaker 1: physical shape until they're probably twenty five or twenty six,

458
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Speaker 1: and then you can make some just flight adjustments after that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, of course, I think just natural evolution and

460
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Speaker 1: natural development for a male. He's going to get stronger

461
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Speaker 1: if he puts the work into it. Do I need

462
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Speaker 1: him to be bulky by all means? No? Yeah. Could

463
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Speaker 1: he add some lower body strength for sure? Could he

464
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Speaker 1: add a little bit more upper body strength with lower mass, Yeah,

465
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Speaker 1: But I think you got to be careful about it

466
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Speaker 1: because you I sort of still appreciate his elusiveness and

467
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Speaker 1: his quickness on his feet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you don't want to lose that positive from.

469
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Speaker 1: Yesterday's game, right, You don't want to lose that because

470
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Speaker 1: you know that's one of the reasons why you got him,

471
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Speaker 1: because he's athletic and he can move around.

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Speaker 3: Who is our number one running back next season?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Probably probably somebody that they draft or they pick up

475
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Speaker 1: free agent wise, I love Jordan Mason for what he is,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, in spot moments, but I'm not convinced that

477
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Speaker 1: he's the He's RB one and sort of the bell

478
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Speaker 1: cow running back, So I don't think that he's on

479
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Speaker 1: our roster right now.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, All right, So, what what's been Lever's plans now

481
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Speaker 4: that he will not have to mess with this program

482
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Speaker 4: every Monday between four forty six or seven and about

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Speaker 4: five twelve.

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Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, and I do this the last couple of years,

485
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Speaker 1: since you've been so nice to have me on your

486
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Speaker 1: program at four forty seven every Monday, I will be

487
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Speaker 1: pulled over on the side of the road coming home

488
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Speaker 1: from work in the field position crying at four forty seven.

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Speaker 3: No question.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, here's what we'll say, open invitation. I mean,

491
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Speaker 4: you can ever, you can always call the hotline if

492
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Speaker 4: you hear something stupid or outrageous, or you just feel like,

493
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Speaker 4: you know, you need a little bit of the boost.

494
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Speaker 4: We'll be you know, and it doesn't have to necessarily

495
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Speaker 4: be at the same time. It could be a different

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Speaker 4: time too.

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Speaker 1: Wow, an open invitation. Yeah, and I heard you say

498
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Speaker 1: earlier when you actually brought me on, you said, I

499
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Speaker 1: think you said the Ben liber experience. Yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've graduated and there's no experience.

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Speaker 3: It's a different level. Yeah.

502
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Speaker 4: When it becomes an experience, it's just well beyond, it's

503
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Speaker 4: not just an interview anymore. It's not a conversation. It's

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Speaker 4: a liber experience. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, now I feel like we've got to pay that

507
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Speaker 1: off by having being on your show a little bit

508
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Speaker 1: more Okay, goodness. I mean, what do you want to

509
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Speaker 1: talk about. You want to talk like Venezuela. You want

510
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Speaker 1: to talk walls, you want to talk immigration. We can

511
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Speaker 1: cover everything, we.

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Speaker 3: Can broaden it out. Yeah that's Glenn.

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Speaker 4: If it was up to Glenn Mason, that's what he

514
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Speaker 4: would be on like three hours a day and we

515
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: would talk almost no sports because I don't even think

516
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Speaker 4: he watches football anymore. But he wants to talk about

517
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Speaker 4: everything else. And I say, well, I tell.

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Speaker 1: Me two old dudes is sitting in the coffee shop

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Speaker 1: the world's problem.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty much it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for another great year, and we will, like I said,

522
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Speaker 4: maybe bug you a little bit for some playoff expertise

523
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Speaker 4: as we get closer, but we'll try to give you

524
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Speaker 4: a little time off as always. Thanks Ben, We appreciate

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Speaker 4: you you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, and thank you seriously, thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me on. And it's always it's always a great chat.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy the the angles that that you asked, the

529
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Speaker 1: questions and the topics that we talk about. And yeah,

530
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Speaker 1: always a great time. And uh again I appreciate searing

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Speaker 1: about it for all their help. So appreciate it. Man,

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Speaker 1: enjoy playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, my friend.

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Speaker 4: That is Nacho liber Ben Leber, brought to you by

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Speaker 3: Kesler in the house yet, haven't seen I haven't spotted

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Speaker 3: him yet. No, there he is.

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Speaker 4: He's in the studio c So he's going to join

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Speaker 4: us in just about ten minutes. The Governor of the

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Speaker 4: Great State of Minnesota was about to say, make big news.

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Speaker 4: It sounded like it was kind of breaking last night,

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Speaker 4: but in that sense, pretty significant departure from previous positions taken.

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Speaker 4: And then he made it. The Governor made it official today.

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Speaker 4: There's already a number of very tantalizing, juicy conspiracy theories

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Speaker 4: being offered up about the Grand Plan here, and we'll

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Speaker 4: get special case you on that and a number of

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Speaker 4: other things. Bratcheawan Bryan kfe In text line will be

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Speaker 4: open for questions for Kessler observations on the Walls story

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Speaker 4: six four six eight six is the Bratshawn Bryant a

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Speaker 4: f A n text line. Playoffs are now set. Your

560
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Speaker 4: club taking on my club. That's a Saturday night game, correct,

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Speaker 4: it is? And really surprised by that. I thought we'd

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Speaker 4: get like a you get Sunday at well. The the betting,

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Speaker 4: the early betting line I thought was Packers by one

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Speaker 4: and a half or two. Now some people think, speaking

565
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Speaker 4: of conspiracy theories, that that's an attempt by you know,

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Speaker 4: the odds makers to get some action and then ultimately

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Speaker 4: it'll end up being Bears by one and a.

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Speaker 3: Half or two. I don't know. It is interesting to

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Speaker 3: note that you've been in the seventh position, is it

570
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Speaker 3: four straight years now or three three? Three straight years?

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Speaker 4: So if they if the if the NFL hadn't added

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Speaker 4: another wild card team, you wouldn't even been in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: just like the Purple Yeah, so you got that going

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Speaker 4: for you.

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Speaker 3: For whatever it's worth, I.

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Speaker 7: Say, we're just a half game in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Your half game in the Vikings are half game out

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Speaker 4: of the playoffs, youre one hundred per correct. I must

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Speaker 4: also say that Sunday night game Man, that was good theater.

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Speaker 4: Whether he had any rooting interest in that game Ravens

581
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Speaker 4: and Steelers, I don't know that it can get much richer,

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Speaker 4: given it literally is the last game of the regular season.

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Speaker 4: And I don't want to say we didn't need him.

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Speaker 4: I really don't. I didn't want to say it. I'm

585
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Speaker 4: tired of saying it, but I was thinking it last night.

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Speaker 4: I really was. And I know Rogers of the course

587
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Speaker 4: of this season hasn't been great, but I don't think

588
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Speaker 4: they're blessed with a great receiving corps Metcalfs legit, but

589
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: then he wasn't He wasn't even available the last two games,

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Speaker 4: and they're in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And he is.

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Speaker 4: Performance yesterday was top notch, top notch. The game that

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Speaker 4: had to get them in the playoffs, Rogers was great.

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Speaker 4: And I've said this many times. I often selfishly make

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Speaker 4: my decision on the basis of the richness of the story,

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Speaker 4: and maybe that's not the sanest thinking, but I was

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Speaker 4: rooting for Rogers to come here. I think it would

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Speaker 4: have been a hell of a story. There's no guarantee

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Speaker 4: that it would have been successful. I get that, but

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Speaker 4: I also think he's still I was intrigued enough that

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Speaker 4: I would have done it. I absolutely would have done it,

602
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Speaker 4: and I'd stop worrying about whether I'm holding JJ back

603
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Speaker 4: or he's going to get frustrated if you wait too long.

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Speaker 4: I got to be honest, I'm especially not concerned going

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Speaker 4: in next season about getting JJ McCarthy frustrated. I'm not

606
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Speaker 4: saying he shouldn't be in the mix. I'm not saying

607
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Speaker 4: that he shouldn't be given a chance to move upon

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Speaker 4: his first season of major activity as an NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But come on, and stop worrying about whether he' said, Oh,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna put him back, and that's going to hold

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Speaker 4: him back longer. That's not how you build a winning

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Speaker 4: football team. That's really not the thing you could worry about.

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Speaker 4: And as I've said earlier in the show, even if

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Speaker 4: you believe in him as a quarterback, even if you

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Speaker 4: believe you saw enough improvement, it's just a matter of time.

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Speaker 4: His lack of availability, as far as I'm concerned, demands

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Speaker 4: that you can no longer worry about worry about hurting

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Speaker 4: his feelings or getting him where he might be a

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Speaker 4: little frustrated here or might want to go someplace else. No,

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Speaker 4: no chance on that. I just I just don't believe it.

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Speaker 4: On the regarding whether he should have played or not,

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Speaker 4: I know Lieber feels strongly about it. It comes down

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Speaker 4: to this for me. I mean, it's here's what I

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Speaker 4: will say Liebers defense. I haven't really seen it much

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Speaker 4: to give him the benefit of the doubt him the

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Speaker 4: player JJ in that regard. Now if he literally can't

627
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Speaker 4: grip the ball any longer or can't hold it, obviously

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Speaker 4: that's pretty important when you're playing the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: But it's.

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Speaker 4: It's just axiomatic that if you can't be on the field,

631
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Speaker 4: it almost doesn't matter how good you can be.

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Speaker 3: When you are.

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Speaker 4: And the double whammy I think that McCarthy is dealing with.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't good enough consistently enough to just stay tantalized

635
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Speaker 4: and to say we're going to be patient on the injuries.

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Speaker 4: He had weigh too many downs for me and a

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Speaker 4: couple of ups, but his overall numbers still weren't that good.

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Speaker 3: And as a.

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Speaker 4: Result, I don't know who that guy is to bring

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Speaker 4: in to put pressure on him. I don't know that's

641
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Speaker 4: easier said than done, but I just don't. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it can be. With all due respect to Max Rosmer,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it could be Max Prosmer, I really don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can experiment at this position any longer.

645
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Speaker 4: And maybe maybe as we go through the playoffs, maybe

646
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Speaker 4: it'll something will crystallize, it'll be more obvious who they

647
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Speaker 4: might be interested in or who they might be able

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Speaker 4: to get their hands on.

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Speaker 5: But I.

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Speaker 4: I just know that whether whether you want to have

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Speaker 4: the discussion about toughness or not, if you can't be available,

652
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Speaker 4: teams can't plan around you. They can't build around you,

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Speaker 4: and they if they don't, if they just don't feel

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Speaker 4: like that they can count on your being on the

655
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Speaker 4: field to execute whatever grand plan, master plan that you

656
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Speaker 4: might indeed have in mind. Six point two guy, right,

657
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Speaker 4: this is Kyle. I have to eat crow Dan and

658
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: say I was against Rogers at the Starr season. I

659
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Speaker 4: feel the Viking squadron an opportunity with Rogers and a

660
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Speaker 4: wide open NFC. That's the other aspect of this, so

661
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: we talked about on sermons. It does feel wide open.

662
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Speaker 3: It may not be.

663
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Speaker 4: Sometimes things happen once the playoffs start and one team

664
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Speaker 4: becomes clearly the best. But starting the wild card weekend,

665
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Speaker 4: really on both sides there there's no one. I think,

666
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Speaker 4: do you look at and go they can't be beaten?

667
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: Forget it? Why bother?

668
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Speaker 4: And that's the other I'm sure for Vikings fans, the

669
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Speaker 4: disturbing aspect, frustrating aspect of this season having played out

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Speaker 4: the way that it did.

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Speaker 3: Let's get a.

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Speaker 4: Pause in and then we'll get to a very busy

673
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Speaker 4: day in the A section. We may not cover all

674
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Speaker 4: the international stories, but we will cover and even some

675
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Speaker 4: of the national ones. But we will certainly cover in

676
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 4: a great deal of depth the big news made in

677
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Speaker 4: the state of Minnesota, Governor Walls saying I'm done. I'm

678
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Speaker 4: not going to run for a third term as he

679
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: had pledged previously. We'll get into that reaction to it,

680
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: How it happened, Did somebody talk to him? What's the

681
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: master DFL plan moving forward? And as I talked about

682
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Speaker 4: on the news Nation today, my big break nationally, it

683
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Speaker 4: might not be a very big break actually, but it

684
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Speaker 4: was fun. Are the Republicans in this state who are

685
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: chortling excited over the fact that we got them. Do

686
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: they need to be careful that what they wished for

687
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Speaker 4: finally indeed came true. We'll explain next.

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Speaker 5: I wish the American media would take a great look

689
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Speaker 5: at the views that the people in convert to find

690
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Speaker 5: out how the America America, because people have got to

691
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Speaker 5: know whether or not their presidents.

692
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Speaker 2: Are I can't trust omas An Airsler.

693
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: Tear down the dish wall.

694
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Speaker 5: I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis Airport Senatory.

695
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: You're no Jack Kennedy Kressler.

696
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Speaker 5: And now to help Dan break down all the tough

697
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Speaker 5: questions in politics, it's our own Kssler political Do.

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Speaker 3: You endorse throwing weed? You're like a supermodel, except like Times.

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Speaker 7: Ten's Jannel force Passer with Dan Morero on the fan.

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Speaker 4: Emergency Bonus Kessler kind enough to join us in studio today.

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Speaker 4: Six four six eighty six is the Brat Shawn Bryant,

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Speaker 4: k FA N text line. Lots of important reaction to

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Speaker 4: get to from you, but maybe the most important thing

704
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Speaker 4: to get your reaction.

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Speaker 3: On is the news that Coy Perrich might be turning

706
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Speaker 3: his come on on sky. You ma your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: That is a gut punch. That's a gut punch. Never expected.

708
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Speaker 5: Did not see that coming. I thought he was part

709
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Speaker 5: of the family.

710
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Speaker 4: And you know the culture, will you turn on him

711
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Speaker 4: as many already apparently have in Gopher Nation as Tim

712
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Speaker 4: Brewster used to call it.

713
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Speaker 5: Well, I know that Sid would say he'll never get

714
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Speaker 5: a job here graduate, So where where.

715
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Speaker 6: Will he go?

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Speaker 3: That is the thing. So he's not good enough for Indiana?

717
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: He had Well, what if he ends up at Indiana? Then,

718
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: in Signetti, we trust if.

719
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Speaker 5: He doesn't go there, he's not good enough. But if

720
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Speaker 5: he does go there, then he is enough, more than enough.

721
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Speaker 5: So this raises so many questions about what's happening in

722
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Speaker 5: college sports, and I do believe that Congress needs to

723
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Speaker 5: get involved. But in this case, people are coming and

724
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Speaker 5: going Ohio State, which as we all know, is now

725
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Speaker 5: out of it. Thirty five million dollars is what they

726
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Speaker 5: have in their NIL program. You know what do we

727
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Speaker 5: have like buck fifty? I think two d and fifty

728
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Speaker 5: thou let me say that we did buy a koy

729
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Speaker 5: Parish Jersey you for a little bit of money, you know,

730
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Speaker 5: to help help the KOI law.

731
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Speaker 3: Right, Well, we bought it from the family and bought

732
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Speaker 3: it from the family.

733
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so but he's left the door open, and

734
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Speaker 5: I'm not exactly sure what that means.

735
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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

736
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Speaker 1: Uh?

737
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Speaker 3: Not much so in retrospect, I'm an idiot.

738
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Speaker 5: I know that after the Bowl game they have the

739
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Speaker 5: post game, the comments from the players. Yes, so they

740
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Speaker 5: got Drake, and they got Jordan, and they got you know,

741
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Speaker 5: we have an NFL defensive end.

742
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Speaker 3: You know, we have that. But he wasn't there, and

743
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Speaker 3: I didn't that, you know, I never thought about it.

744
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Speaker 5: And now because they're all coming back, they're announcing their

745
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: coming back and he wasn't there.

746
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, I feel bad about it.

747
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Speaker 5: I wish him well, I guess it doesn't sound like

748
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Speaker 5: your heart feel bad. I feel terrible about it because, yeah,

749
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Speaker 5: I had a lot invested in him.

750
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Speaker 3: Wanting to have the opportunity to play for a national championship.

751
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Speaker 3: Well luck with that all the throne. That's all I'm

752
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Speaker 3: gonna say. I mean, I admire the guy a lot.

753
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Speaker 3: I mean, Okay, so what are you going to pick?

754
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Speaker 3: You're going to go to? I guess LSU next year,

755
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Speaker 3: right with Lane Kevin, He'll be.

756
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Speaker 4: A lot of people think Miami and maybe Ohio state

757
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Speaker 4: can go to Miami.

758
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Speaker 3: Do not go to Miami.

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Speaker 4: Good program, good nil, not a bad place to hang

760
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Speaker 4: that you don't have to worry about.

761
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Speaker 3: In Miami.

762
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Speaker 5: True enough, And I'd go to Miami today. Yeah so,

763
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Speaker 5: but but there's that. But I mean, what's the culture

764
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Speaker 5: on the Miami team. So I don't know the Canes.

765
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Speaker 2: Who want to him away from the national champions Yeah,

766
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Speaker 2: I mean that that's pretty good culture.

767
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Speaker 3: But there are they going to be one game there?

768
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Speaker 3: I mean, were they playing Indiana?

769
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Speaker 1: No?

770
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Speaker 3: Indiana? Sorry? What am I thinking? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Old miss oh?

772
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Speaker 3: Shoot there you go? Oh, I say, old miss Okay

773
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Speaker 3: and Indiana there? It is all right? So I feel bad,

774
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Speaker 3: but thank you for asking.

775
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Speaker 4: And I want to get right the way first. I

776
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 4: didn't mean to, but the story seemed to be sort

777
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: of breaking last night. There was a good chance that

778
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Speaker 4: the governor was going to announce today that he is

779
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Speaker 4: stepping aside.

780
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Speaker 3: He's not going to run after all of the third term.

781
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Speaker 4: So I'm not going to sit here and tell you

782
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Speaker 4: that I'm totally I started the show saying I think

783
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Speaker 4: it was sort of inevitable. But there's always a question of, well,

784
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 4: what's gonna change, What changes from the day you say

785
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Speaker 4: I'm hanging in to the day you say I'm out.

786
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: So what do your best sources tell you and your

787
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Speaker 4: best instincts tell you as to how and why this

788
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Speaker 4: took place?

789
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is I think surprising, but I'm not shocked

790
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Speaker 5: by it. So I think that's a fair way of saying.

791
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 5: But they had so many different parts to this. How

792
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Speaker 5: do you get to I'm all in and all the

793
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Speaker 5: Democrats have to.

794
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Speaker 6: Join you all in?

795
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Speaker 1: In?

796
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 5: How many four months ago to today where I'm getting out?

797
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: Something happened in between? And I was very disappointed that

798
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Speaker 5: he holds a press conference with the press who are

799
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Speaker 5: there to ask questions, and then doesn't take any questions.

800
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Speaker 5: Reads the prepared statement. We will start hearing some of

801
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Speaker 5: those answers. Something happened in between, and I suspect at

802
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 5: this point, and this is what people I'm talking to

803
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 5: are suspecting as well. You're starting to look at numbers now,

804
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: because whatever it is what he called today, the extremest

805
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 5: right wing propaganda machine over the last month, with this

806
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 5: daycare fraud, with the feeding our future fraud, with the

807
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: program fraud here in Minnesota, has ramped up to levels

808
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Speaker 5: that I don't think I have ever seen as quickly

809
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Speaker 5: as I have ever seen, and that changed the numbers. Now,

810
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Speaker 5: I believe that Governor Walls, who has a tremendous campaign

811
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Speaker 5: war chest, is regularly polling and there is a tipping

812
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Speaker 5: point at some point where you have to say, you

813
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Speaker 5: know what, not only am I going to lose, but

814
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Speaker 5: I'm going to take down the Democratic ticket with me.

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Speaker 3: That is a major problem.

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Speaker 5: Behind the scenes, I've been talking to Dems for a

817
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Speaker 5: number of weeks expressing concern about this, that Governor Wall's

818
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 5: popularity is dropping fairly quickly for somebody as riding high

819
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Speaker 5: as he was in August of last year as the

820
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Speaker 5: vice presidential candidate. And so you don't just have to

821
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 5: worry about your own campaign for governor. You've got to

822
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 5: think about all the other statewide candidates. And if people

823
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 5: are going to vote him down, then the other candidates

824
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 5: are not going to do well either, including the legislature.

825
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 5: We have a US Senate set up and all the

826
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 5: constitutional offices. So those had to figure very, very prominently

827
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Speaker 5: in his decision. Now, finally, he didn't talk about it today,

828
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 5: but we've been hearing whispers about personal security and safety.

829
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Speaker 5: This has ramped up over the last month or so

830
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Speaker 5: that he is taking into account because of all of

831
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Speaker 5: the controversy over the fraud scandals and how divisive we

832
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 5: are and polarized in our politics, that you know, maybe

833
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Speaker 5: I don't want this from my family, particularly after what

834
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 5: happened last summer, the possibility and the rise in political violence.

835
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that is the reason, but that is

836
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 5: something that's back there as well. But bottom line is,

837
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 5: if you think you're not going to win, get out,

838
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 5: and that's what he did, where he wasn't going to win.

839
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Speaker 4: Probably, So is there I have no idea what the

840
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 4: ongoing relationship has been politically speaking, between Amy Klobashar and Wallsey,

841
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Speaker 4: But where does she come into the In other words,

842
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 4: is there any chance that he is less likely to

843
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: step aside if he doesn't already have inside knowledge that

844
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Speaker 4: she is prepared to make this leap.

845
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Speaker 5: I have not confirmed this, but The New York Times

846
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Speaker 5: is reporting that he met with Senator Amy Klobashar on

847
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 5: Sunday yesterday to let her know that he was going

848
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 5: to drop out of the race and wanted to gauge

849
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Speaker 5: her interest in it.

850
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Speaker 3: So I do think that is something that was important

851
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Speaker 3: in his decision making.

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00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 5: So for all of the Republicans nationally and here in

853
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 5: Minnesota who are doing the touchdown dance and claiming they've

854
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 5: got a they're nailing a pelt to the wall, this

855
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 5: is something that you got to be careful what you

856
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 5: wished for, because if she does get in the race,

857
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 5: she is an extremely formidable candidate.

858
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to go further than that. I'm going to

859
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: say if she's in the race, it's over. And that's

860
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: where I've said earlier today. It's the old you know,

861
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: be careful what you wish for if you're a Republican,

862
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Speaker 4: because there's no question I think Walls was vulnerable. Was

863
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Speaker 4: he vulnerable enough given the candidates out there on the

864
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: Republican side, I'm not sure, but he was vulnerable. But

865
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Speaker 4: so you can say it's a political victory for you,

866
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: or it's the right thing because you think he hasn't

867
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: been willing to accept enough responsibility, and I don't particularly

868
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Speaker 4: think he has.

869
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Speaker 3: But if you want to just talk, I guess you

870
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 3: could say tjeri.

871
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 4: Is a political term, a term that the late Great

872
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: Don King used to use too from time to time.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a loss if she's the one, I think,

874
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: I think she is virtually unbeatable.

875
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 5: I think in our political climate, you never know, and

876
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 5: so things could change from today to a month from now.

877
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: But the odds are that she would do very very

878
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 5: well and lift all of the other Democratic candidates with

879
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 5: her if she decides to run.

880
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: Let's just say that.

881
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 5: Let's remind people that Amy Klobashar is the top vote

882
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 5: getter in the state of Minnesota. She has received more

883
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: votes than any other candidate in Minnesota history, and that

884
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: includes Hubert Humphrey, that includes all the Minnesota politicians. She

885
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: won her races, and I went to look it up today.

886
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 5: She started running in two thousand and six for the

887
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 5: US Senate. She won her races by twenty points, thirty

888
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 5: four points, twenty four points, and sixteen points. That is

889
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 5: somebody who can be a steamroller under the right conditions. So, yes,

890
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 5: she is extremely formidable. And that means that Republicans start

891
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 5: voting for her as well. Right, that's what that means.

892
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 5: So you've got the moderates independence, and you have a

893
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 5: good number of Republicans voting for you for a candidate,

894
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 5: a Democrat who actually gets those kinds of numbers.

895
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 3: Why would she make this move.

896
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: She has developed a great reputation and has some power

897
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 4: in the Senate.

898
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: That's big stuff.

899
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 5: That is a really really good question, and I've been

900
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 5: wondering that myself. She is number three in the Senate

901
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 5: right now, and it takes years to do that. I

902
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 5: think she's what she's sixty six, which is like being

903
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 5: a teenager in the US Senate. I mean, everybody's like eighty, right,

904
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: that's true. But she has kept her head down, worked

905
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: really hard, and she is the third ranking person there,

906
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 5: and there is some question as to whether she would

907
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 5: be getting the leadership positions.

908
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: Dick Derban is retiring at.

909
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 5: Eighty blah blah whatever he is, and she was going

910
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: to run for that, but there's some question about whether

911
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 5: she could actually get that. Bryan Shots, the Hawaii Senator,

912
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 5: is somebody who's kind of lining up the votes for that.

913
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 5: But having said that, she comes to Minnesota, and it's

914
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 5: my view that governors are the ones in this country

915
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 5: who do the work. There's no question can actually get

916
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 5: something done if you are a governor. So let's say

917
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 5: she comes back, and I'm not saying she will, but

918
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 5: the odds are that she might she comes back to Minnesota.

919
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 5: That's a pretty visible place to be. She can actually

920
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 5: pass legislation, get stuff done. We call it in the

921
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 5: business of freebie. Because she doesn't have to leave her

922
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 5: office the US Senate if she loses. In the unlikely

923
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 5: event she loses, she can right just go back to

924
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: the Senate. She can run for office while she's a Senator.

925
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 5: If she wins, she gets to be governor, and very

926
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 5: likely she can appoint the next US Senator for Minnesota.

927
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 5: She's the one who would appoint a senator.

928
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: So there you are you.

929
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 4: So that leads nicely into the conspiracy theory offered up

930
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 4: by a number of folks already today, that the fix

931
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: is in that we're going to see Amy Klobashar make

932
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 4: the announcement she's going to run for governor, and then

933
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 4: she's going to win, and then she's going to appoint

934
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 4: Tim Walls to replace her in the Senate. That's the

935
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory that has become very popular among us. Some

936
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 4: writies today. I don't believe it, but maybe I'm being naive.

937
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: Do you believe there's any chance that that sequence of

938
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 4: events could take place?

939
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 5: You know, what's happened here in Minnesota already where Wendy

940
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 5: Anderson and I haven't heard that to you just told me.

941
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: But I'm remembering back to Wendell Anderson, the governor during

942
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 5: the seventh Oh yeah, he resigns. He has to deal

943
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 5: with Rudy Purpets to appoint him to the Senate. Minnesota

944
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 5: voters were so angry about that.

945
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: Because threw him out.

946
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 5: They threw him out as soon as they had the chance,

947
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 5: uh and established a Rudy Boschwitz as the US Senator

948
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 5: from Minnesota. So although it's possible it's happened, I'd say, nay,

949
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 5: let me, let me throw it out.

950
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 4: So stay because you know Amy Klobashar, I've met her,

951
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 4: I know her a little bit, you know her a lot.

952
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to say that you know Amy Klobashar is

953
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: how do I put this? I think she is a

954
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: very savvy political animal. Oh, I think she gets it.

955
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: I don't think she would. I believe she's smart enough

956
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 4: to know that the damage that that would do to

957
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: her quote unquote brand is not worth it.

958
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: I don't think she'd go near that. I don't.

959
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 5: I don't even think it's a possibil I got that's

960
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 5: that's what I would tend to believe. I just like

961
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 5: I can't see that at all. Governor Walls remains unpopular

962
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 5: and getting more so by the week in the state

963
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 5: of Minnesota.

964
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

965
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen some of the stuff that shield

966
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 5: a point and I'm just saying this, people, I'm just

967
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 5: saying I saw it somewhere.

968
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this.

969
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 5: People are hoping that Sheila point al Franken again, I

970
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 5: come full circle to do Trump. But but look, the

971
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 5: Democrats are wielding power in a more savvy way like

972
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 5: President Trump does. You know, you can love him or

973
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 5: hate him, but this guy is wielding power like a cudgel.

974
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 5: And when you got the power, use it. And we'll

975
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 5: see where Senator Clobisher goes.

976
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: But there's a.

977
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 5: Lot of different Democratic candidates right now running for you,

978
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 5: a Senate, running for Congress. There's a bench, a deep

979
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 5: bench among among Democrats that that she could appoint.

980
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: Let me ask ask you this because you alluded to

981
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: it and I didn't really follow up on it. You

982
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 4: mentioned that in the press conference today confirming that he's

983
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: not going to run, that the governor did not take

984
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: any questions, correct and you know people on his staff,

985
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: you have had really working relationships with many of them.

986
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 7: How does that?

987
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: How does that?

988
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 4: How is that the best advice that they are giving

989
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 4: the governor at a time like this, because it makes

990
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 4: no sense to me if you're going to try to

991
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: make any kind of point by what you're doing, you

992
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 4: got to answer questions as far as I'm concerned, Well.

993
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 5: You would think you stop just if you want to

994
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 5: be transparent, stand up there and be transparent. I do

995
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 5: believe that they've been more and more in a bubble

996
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 5: in the governor's office over the last year or so,

997
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 5: and when Governor Walls ran for vice president, it was

998
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 5: like they see him up, put him in a room,

999
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 5: threw away the key. I mean, we never heard from him.

1000
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 5: It's as a reporter. I always dislike that, and I

1001
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 5: think that was probably the wrong move. But I do

1002
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 5: believe that over the last year, where we've seen you

1003
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 5: and I have talked about it dozens of times, where

1004
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 5: he seemed Governor Wall seemed to minimize this fraud issue,

1005
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 5: he never fully took responsibility for it and tended to

1006
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 5: be defensive as he was today more defensive, and that

1007
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 5: indicates to me that maybe you're listening to just a

1008
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 5: few people. You don't really see the full picture. A

1009
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 5: wise man who is a big tim Walls supporter told

1010
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 5: me today that, and who is who's glad that he

1011
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 5: is now stepping aside, said there's a difference between responsibility

1012
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 5: and fault. You can take responsibility, yes, and fix something,

1013
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 5: but if you say it's someone else's fault, then that's

1014
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 5: in the past and you get barred down in all

1015
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 5: of this.

1016
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: And I'm not completely sure. I'm not sure that the

1017
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: governor Walls ever did that, and if he did, way

1018
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: too late.

1019
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 4: Is Dean Phillips, I think, has said again today I'm

1020
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 4: not running for anything.

1021
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 3: Is that correct? That is correct.

1022
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 5: He tweeted that out and said he will support the

1023
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 5: candidate who will be the most down the middle of

1024
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 5: the most moderate, the one who listens. And there is

1025
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 5: a guy, I mean he might be he might have

1026
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 5: been a great candidate for governor or for a US Senate,

1027
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 5: somebody who was one of the very few Democrats who

1028
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 5: spoke the truth on Biden about Joe Biden. And he

1029
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 5: just said what everybody could see but refused to say.

1030
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: So he's not running. That is correct, And there is

1031
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 3: a pretty long list.

1032
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 5: A dozen Republicans who are running for governor, and it's

1033
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 5: actually a pretty good field. I mean, there's some there's

1034
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 5: some very very prominent Republicans, really good candidates if they

1035
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 5: get if they get the not.

1036
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: Can you make the argument, I don't want to get

1037
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 4: too grandiose, but could you make the argument that this

1038
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: announcement is the Democrats, at least within the state, acknowledging

1039
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 4: the mistake that nationally the Democrats made waiting too long

1040
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 4: to move on on Joe Biden to such a point

1041
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: that it probably minimized their chances to end up winning

1042
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 4: that election.

1043
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: And that given this amount of time.

1044
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: You're clearly giving whoever's going to come, and of course

1045
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 4: if it's Amy Klobischer it probably didn't matter, but whoever

1046
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: more time to establish himself or herself in that position

1047
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: in a way that the Democrats were incapable of accepting

1048
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 4: or learning their lesson that Dean Phillips was trying to

1049
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: offer them nationally speaking.

1050
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 5: Well, who takes accountability for that when you've got someone wrong?

1051
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: Can a strong leader?

1052
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 5: And like it or not, Walls has been a very

1053
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 5: strong leader for two decades in the state of Minnesota,

1054
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 5: winning all the elections controlling the Democratic Party in general,

1055
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 5: the DFL party here in Minnesota. And so when when,

1056
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 5: when that person wants to be the guy, you almost

1057
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 5: have to stand aside. And you could have made the

1058
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 5: argument before this last month of fraud scandals, right, so,

1059
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 5: you could have made the argument that he could he

1060
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 5: could win based on not just his own skill, his

1061
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 5: millions of dollars that he has, his connections, his his

1062
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: get out the vote effort, all of that.

1063
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: You could have made the argument that it'd be tough,

1064
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: but he could have won.

1065
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 5: After that, No, and people were starting to talk to

1066
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 5: him over the last what had to be just the

1067
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks where he was in it two

1068
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 5: three weeks, two weeks ago, but he has been pulling

1069
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 5: away from reporters.

1070
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: And people have not really had access to him for

1071
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: that time. So whose fault is it?

1072
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 5: We talked about responsibility and fault. It's the person in

1073
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 5: charge who should be accountable for that. By the way,

1074
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: why might not be too I'm sorry to interrupted, this

1075
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 5: is not too late, this is way yeah yeah, yeah,

1076
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 5: yeah exactly. So he did his party a big favor

1077
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 5: and sacrificed himself his political future for the party because

1078
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 5: it's it's January, right is You've got a whole year

1079
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 5: and it's going to be compressed very fast here. So yeah,

1080
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 5: there's plenty of times.

1081
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: So what does happen to his war chest? How does

1082
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: that work? Well, he can control it.

1083
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 5: I mean, he can't use it to buy groceries and

1084
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 5: a new International Scout or a classic vintage and as

1085
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 5: you know, as we learned during the campaigns that he

1086
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: can actually change the clutch on an international on the Scout,

1087
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 5: which I which I can't. No, he can use it

1088
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 5: to create a pack to support other candidates. Absolutely, I

1089
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 5: mean that money is there. He could return it if

1090
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Speaker 5: he wanted to. But there's millions of dollars so probably

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Speaker 5: not unlikely. But yeah, I mean he could still wield

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Speaker 5: power and we don't know, and we'll find out over

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Speaker 5: the next few days. He still has a political future

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Speaker 5: if he wants it, and people might not like it,

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Speaker 5: but this is a guy I look at all the

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Speaker 5: politicians in the state, of the democratic politicians in the state,

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Speaker 5: and he's got the skill set that he could keep

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Speaker 5: doing something. I don't see it, but maybe he'll end up.

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Speaker 5: If a Democratic president is elected in twenty eight. Maybe

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Speaker 5: he'll end up there.

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Speaker 4: Larry Mandela, Guy, I think you've already answered this question,

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Speaker 4: but I'll ask it again just in case. Would cloversh

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Speaker 4: our keeper Senate seat while running for governor? Would she

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Speaker 4: have to resign that and then resign if elected?

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Speaker 5: That is really fun, Larry Mondelo, Guy, that's a serious

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Speaker 5: of questions.

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Speaker 4: In the comedian I was wat, yeah, I was no.

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Speaker 5: She can absolutely run. And there's a couple of to

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Speaker 5: do it right now in the US, and I'm just

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Speaker 5: recalling this. Right now, there are three US senators who

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Speaker 5: are running for governor. Michael Bennett's Colorado, the Democrat, your guy,

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Speaker 5: Tommy Tubberbill the Coach, is running in Alabama, and Marsha Blackburn,

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Speaker 5: the Republican senator of Tennessee, is running for governor there.

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Speaker 5: So they will hold their seats. What the practice is,

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Speaker 5: you hold your seat as long as you can. If

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Speaker 5: you're elected, you can probably resign right before you are

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Speaker 5: sworn in. But if she wants the ability to appoint

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Speaker 5: her own US Senate person, then I would hold onto

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Speaker 5: it till right before you raise your hand on the

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Speaker 5: Bible and do it right then. And you know this

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Speaker 5: next person, well, whoever it is, and think about this. Also,

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Speaker 5: in the state of Minnesota, we will have if it

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Speaker 5: is Kolobishar who resigns her seat and then becomes governor, we.

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Speaker 3: Will have two freshmen us senators.

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Speaker 5: And that's something I mean, we had one of the

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Speaker 5: most experienced in the country with Klobashar, and now we

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Speaker 3: So that's worth thinking about too.

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Speaker 4: Top of the hour pause, I do want to talk

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Speaker 4: about another conspiracy theory when we come back and maybe

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Speaker 4: get to a couple more texts. It's bonus Pat Kessler

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Speaker 4: Pat Kessler in studio for another segment, Emergency Kestler today,

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Speaker 4: for all the obvious reasons, I you know, you and

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Speaker 4: I have talked about this before, and.

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Speaker 3: There's this constant belief of.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I know all the other things that Trump

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01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 4: has said or done, but this one, this just this

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: goes to that next place and then you say, but

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Speaker 4: who are we kidding? I mean, how do you distinguish

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Speaker 4: one from another? I will add that when the story

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Speaker 4: has ramifications in the state, there's maybe perhaps more of

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Speaker 4: a feeling of oh my god, what's the famous quote

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Speaker 4: from the hearings?

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Speaker 3: Have you no decency?

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Speaker 1: Sir? He is?

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Speaker 3: I understand it, and you can fill in the blanks.

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Speaker 4: The president, I don't if this was true through truth,

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Speaker 4: social or wherever, sort of linked to a conspiracy theory

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Speaker 4: that goes back to some stuff that.

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Speaker 3: The assassin of.

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Speaker 4: Melissa Hortman I think, had written one of his manifestos,

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Speaker 4: basically suggesting that the governor of the state of Minnesota

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Speaker 4: ordered the murder.

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Speaker 3: Of Melissa Hortman. It's beyond repulsive.

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Speaker 4: I hate even using that word because I don't even

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Speaker 4: think words can describe it. But it almost is the

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Speaker 4: third or fourth or fifth one down, not because it's

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Speaker 4: not horrific, but because it never stops. So how do

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Speaker 4: you which one to you decide to plant on. But

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Speaker 4: in the case, in this case, given that the Minnesota connections,

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Speaker 4: what can you tell us about this.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's shocking, and this is something that I'm even

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Speaker 5: hesitant to talk about it because we don't want to

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Speaker 5: amplify this idea that anybody had anything to do with

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Speaker 5: the murders of the top democratic of a person in

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Speaker 5: the house, Hortman and her husband, and the shootings of

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Speaker 5: John Hoffman.

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Speaker 3: The senator and his wife.

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Speaker 5: We don't want people to think anything other than it is,

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Speaker 5: is that a crazy man allegedly did this. And I

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Speaker 5: was really gratified today to see after the President amplified

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Speaker 5: this on his truth social account over.

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Speaker 3: The weekend, and people are glomming onto it and people

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Speaker 3: believe it.

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Speaker 5: And one thing about social media is that yeah, we say, ah,

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Speaker 5: that's crazy, nobody's going to believe.

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Speaker 3: People believe it.

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Speaker 5: They absolutely believe it just because President Trump said it.

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Speaker 5: That's really distressing and discouraging. But something that I thought

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Speaker 5: was really laudable and I'm really happy to see this

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Speaker 5: is that the Republicans in the state of Minnesota as

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Speaker 5: one were unified in their condemnation of this, asking the

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Speaker 5: President to take it down. This is not about left

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Speaker 5: and right. It's not about anything other than these people

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Speaker 5: were murdered. That's not what happened. Prominent Republicans are saying,

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Speaker 5: this is just nuts. Now, You're right, we have a

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Speaker 5: fire hose of craziness every day coming out of the

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Speaker 5: White House, and you wonder sometimes where the bottom is.

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Speaker 5: And I think we're coming to the conclusion that there

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Speaker 5: is no bottom. I think we're going to get to

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Speaker 5: a point where, I mean, it's just another day and

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Speaker 5: we become numb to the crudeness and the cruelty of this.

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Speaker 5: And that was really hurtful for a lot of people

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Speaker 5: in Minnesota, including of course the Hortmann family. So I mean,

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Speaker 5: do you shake your head? What's the proper response? Should

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Speaker 5: we even talk about it? Should it be that, oh,

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Speaker 5: that's just Trump being Trump. No, we should not accept

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Speaker 5: that kind of thing. We just shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: So, I you know, again, he gives endless press conferences,

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Speaker 3: the president. He does. And yet.

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering, I mean, is somebody going to at least

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Speaker 4: try to hold his feet to the fire on this,

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Speaker 4: or say, as the president, what's the upside of amplifying

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Speaker 4: something that is demonstrably false at least challenging him on it?

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Speaker 3: Or does it matter? Is he so slippery that it

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Speaker 3: really doesn't make it. I think it's really really I

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Speaker 3: think you're not going to see that.

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Speaker 5: It's very very common for reporters who have the opportunity

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Speaker 5: to speak with the president to ignore it. Why because

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Speaker 5: you're going down a rabbit hole. You're going to go

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Speaker 5: down a rabbit hole, and there goes your interview. You

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Speaker 5: know you're not going to be able to ask him

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Speaker 5: anything that's actually important, not to say this isn't.

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Speaker 3: This is really really important, really really important.

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Speaker 5: But if you could use your time and do that, absolutely,

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised sometimes that we don't see more pushback, and

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Speaker 5: when there is, and we have seen it, he says, well,

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Speaker 5: I don't know that's what people are saying. Many people

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Speaker 5: are saying this. Therefore, if I say it, I'm I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying it, they're saying it. I'm just saying they're

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Speaker 5: saying it. That's about where we are. So the President

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Speaker 5: does not take responsibility for that, but he is quick

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Speaker 5: to blame others. It's important to remember and if I

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Speaker 5: could just briefly bring it back to today's topic then

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Speaker 5: of walls dropping out, you think about it, all of

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Speaker 5: the things that have happened here in Minnesota in just

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Speaker 5: the last few years, starting with the COVID and the

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Speaker 5: uproar over that, the civil unrest, the murder of George Floyd,

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Speaker 5: the murders of Melissa Hortman, Annunciation Church. These are all

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Speaker 5: of the part now of our collective conversation over the

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Speaker 5: last four years.

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Speaker 3: And to have that enter in that, that that chaos

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Speaker 3: and confusion and cruelty is just beyond the pale. It's yeah.

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Speaker 3: And as you said, I mean, I guess that's the one.

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Speaker 4: The only good thing you'd say out of this is

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Speaker 4: that the Republicans in this state have been as demonstrative

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Speaker 4: in their reaction as the Democrats. And you'd like to

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Speaker 4: think we'd be that way on more stories than that,

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Speaker 4: But I guess it's because we were invested in it

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Speaker 4: in a way that we say what And I think

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Speaker 4: for him, I'm not even sure he gives it a

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Speaker 4: second thought, right, because for him, it's just it's just

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Speaker 4: more red meat. I'm just gonna throw it out there

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Speaker 4: because I don't. I'm and part of what concerns me

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Speaker 4: is and maybe it wouldn't matter to him, is that

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Speaker 4: I don't. I think when I watch these press conferences,

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Speaker 4: and I get it, you can't be open warfare in

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Speaker 4: a press conference situation. But I don't even sense as

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Speaker 4: much of the just sort of combativeness, the legitimate combativeness,

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Speaker 4: combative combativeness that I remember going back, I remember presidents.

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Speaker 3: I just don't. I just feel like Obama. I mean,

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Speaker 3: are you kidding? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean there was there was really a lot of that.

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Speaker 5: The one that surprised me with the reporters is when

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Speaker 5: he said, quiet, Piggy. Why there wasn't that response. Now, Gosh,

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Speaker 5: I hate to go out on a limb here, but

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna I mean, on Christmas Day, President Trump tweeted

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Speaker 5: or posted on truth social two hundred times, two hundred times.

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Speaker 5: I mean, was he with his family at all? I mean,

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Speaker 5: those are the kinds of things that I wonder about.

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Speaker 5: And if we were all over Joe Biden and his

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Speaker 5: cognitive abilities and his reasoning, his logic, are people going

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Speaker 5: to start asking those questions? I mean, maybe that'll start

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Speaker 5: popping up. And the reason I didn't want to bring

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Speaker 5: it up is because I know I'm going to get

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Speaker 5: hammered for you. Well, yeah, we are wearing hammered or

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Speaker 5: you know, but this is something that you know, we

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01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 5: got plenty to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Well, the subject.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just the the A lot of the responses, the

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Speaker 4: subject is getting changed from the specific nature of this

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Speaker 4: accusation and all of its meaning. In a case in

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Speaker 4: which individuals were murdered, public officials, elected officials, well, and

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Speaker 4: obviously husband.

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Speaker 3: Murdered and attempted it.

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Speaker 4: It's and so when somebody texts, uh, seven sixty three, guy,

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Speaker 4: your liberal love fest is getting dull, that person I

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01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 4: think is hurting himself or herself or whatever argument they're

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Speaker 4: trying to make by not addressing the substance of what

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Speaker 4: specifically we are talking about here in this case. You

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Speaker 4: want to strip all the eliminate all the rest of it. Fine,

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Speaker 4: let's just talk about this accusation and the sickening nature

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Speaker 4: of it. But I think the way you deflect is

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Speaker 4: you make it about something bigger, and that's unfortunately what well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literal LoveFest guy is doing is about you.

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Speaker 5: Then exactly, you're the one who brought it up, and

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01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 5: so this is about you. But deflection is something that

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Speaker 5: is very common now on social media, and yeah it is,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's it's played on the original thing. Then

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01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 5: it becomes something that it never started as, and it

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Speaker 5: gets worse.

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Speaker 4: Well, all I know is I'm glad you came in.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate the time and the analysis.

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Speaker 3: Is a big deal. This is a big deal. What's

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Speaker 3: happening is it doesn't happen every day. It very rarely happens.

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Speaker 5: And we've been following this case for a long time,

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Speaker 5: and I have a feeling it's maybe this is a

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Speaker 5: signal that this fraud in Minnesota, we're going to see

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Speaker 5: more and more of it coming to light and it

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Speaker 5: might be worse than.

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Speaker 3: Anybody thought, which is already awfully bad. Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 4: Pat Kesler will not be on Channel four at five,

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Speaker 4: six and ten o'clock tonight, which of course is their loss.

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Speaker 3: We will come back to wrap up the program. That's not.

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Speaker 4: It's the bumper to bumper show racks, probably by American Pressure.

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Speaker 3: I apologize for stepping on your touchdown call.

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Speaker 4: We always appreciate the support and the help and the

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Speaker 4: folks from American Pressure. Good guest lineup today, just wrapped

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Speaker 4: up with Pat Kessler, special k emergency session with him.

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Speaker 4: In addition, Ben Lieber to wrap up to put a

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Speaker 4: bow on the Vikings season a lot with him on

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Speaker 4: the various I guess you could say dramas pertaining to

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Speaker 4: the starting quarterback and maybe even the b flow story.

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Speaker 4: In addition, on today's broadcast Johnny Athletic joint, we actually

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Speaker 4: talked some hockey early. Well, actually it's not really hockey.

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Speaker 4: We talked about ongoing ex debates raging between Johnny Athletic

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Speaker 4: and Kevin Fallness pertaining with usually the starting point the

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Speaker 4: powder keg is Johnny appearance in the show being announced

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Speaker 4: via X and then that gets Falness going. He makes

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Speaker 4: a crack, then Johnny replies with another crack, and they

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Speaker 4: get going. They get going at each other pretty damn good.

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Speaker 4: For all I know, it's still going on. Somebody did

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Speaker 4: suggest and this is not a bad idea, and you

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Speaker 4: can do something about this because you produce Beyond the Pond. Correct,

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Speaker 4: That is correct.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it time for a Johnny Athletic appearance on Beyond

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Speaker 3: the Punk? Wow? I'm being serious.

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Speaker 4: I think it would make I think it would be

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Speaker 4: award winning ratings, grabbing weekend radio here on the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Bigger Collision Super Show from earlier today or Johnny Athletic

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Speaker 2: on Beyond the Pond.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question. That's a very very good question.

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Speaker 4: A lot of good texts coming in today as well.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow is guards you back as far as we know,

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Speaker 4: that's my understand We think he's back tomorrow from an

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Speaker 4: arbor Michigan. I'm assuming we're gonna have Kevin Seaford in.

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Speaker 4: I hope we haven't been studio to kind of do

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01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 4: the debriefing on the season and to talk about his

1347
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 4: deep dive in the Vikings quarterback Wagnerian opera of a

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Speaker 4: situation which we alluded to yesterday on sermons as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming Luigi tomorrow and who knows what else, and

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Speaker 4: we are going to try to go international before this

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01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 4: week week is done. That means a date with Michael Hurley,

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Speaker 4: if at all possible, our sort of international affairs expert,

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Speaker 4: and of course he died his own because there's a

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Speaker 4: lot to get to regarding your guy Maduro, where we

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Speaker 4: might be invading next, the legal and extra legal ramifications

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Speaker 4: of all of that, and a couple of other stories

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Speaker 4: as well, so we'll try to Unfortunately, we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: more time on our hands because there's gonna be less

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Speaker 4: Vikings in the immediate future to discuss, so all that

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Speaker 4: will be a part of the proceedings as we get

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Speaker 4: into what I think is a pretty full week is

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's I guess we could still be

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Speaker 4: out early for Wild games or Wolves games, but Vikings programming,

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming is is wrapped up.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: We got Vikings rewind wine tonight, right, and that's the

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Speaker 2: same space of one of the Wild play next tonight.

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Speaker 2: Oh they are back tonight, Okay, leave us tonight. I'm well,

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: double check on your team. It's not that I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's the wine. It's the one percent in my brain

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Speaker 2: that I could be wrong that makes me want to

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Speaker 2: yeah's tonight they get the Kings nine to thirty puck drop.

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Speaker 3: That's late for me. Teeth will be in the last

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Speaker 3: by ten fifteen. That's awfully awful. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, well we'll try to work through that and we'll

1376
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Speaker 4: talk and well we talked a little bit with you

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Speaker 4: about what happened to the World Juniors.

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Speaker 3: We'll get Louis's reaction to that as well. Was he

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Speaker 3: here for any of it?

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Speaker 6: Do we know?

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Speaker 3: I mean he's the big ambassador for it, but how

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Speaker 3: much was he actually here for?

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Speaker 6: Do we know?

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Speaker 2: I know he is heading out because he was with

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Speaker 2: guard Zy at one point and he was as soon

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Speaker 2: as his duties were done. Yes, he's out of here,

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: so I think he's on a I think it's after

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Speaker 2: the Golden Medals.

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Speaker 7: I have to go back and listen to it. I

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Speaker 7: heard radio app but yes, I know he's involved in something.

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Speaker 3: I gotcha.

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Speaker 4: Is there a bowl game going on tonight? Are there

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Speaker 4: any more meaningless bowl games still playing? I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: some highlights, but I can't tell if it's live at No.

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Speaker 4: This will like must be some kind of tape. By

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Speaker 4: the way, there's a lot of head coaching openings in

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Speaker 4: the National Football League, and there's enough where you'd think

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Speaker 4: somebody would want to take a look at Brian Flores. Now,

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Speaker 4: of course, we all know about the complications with him,

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Speaker 4: that he's got that ongoing lawsuit and whether that's going

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01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 4: to get in the way, unfortunately of him having an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to get another head coaching job. But there's enough

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Speaker 4: of them, including our guy Kevin Stefanski, who I believe

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Speaker 4: was twice the NFL Coach of the Year as recently

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Speaker 4: as twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: What's the moral of that story?

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Speaker 4: When you screw up the quarterback position, even if it's

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01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 4: some it's beyond your control.

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Speaker 3: You ain't gonna make it. You're not gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Able to survive as a National Football League head coach,

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01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: and their quarterback situation makes our quarterback situation look relatively.

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Speaker 3: Normal and even appealing.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for listening, Thanks for texting, Thank you, indeed for watching.

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Speaker 4: We will talk to you again tomorrow, beginning at three

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Speaker 4: o'clock right here in the fanly.

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Speaker 3: The bow, grace word, Come on, keep the baby. When

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Speaker 3: have you consumed marijuana? I'll be there whenever you want.

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Speaker 3: I'll be there whenever you need. It's horrific, be there.

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Speaker 3: I'll be your d