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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my

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Speaker 1: That's Gavin Rossdale machine head Blush better than the rest

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Speaker 1: two red mushine I've seen. I've gone in to see

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Speaker 1: him multiple times, Gavin Rossdale. So you can tell I'm

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Speaker 1: a millennial, right. My first concert I ever went to

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Speaker 1: in my life, I was sixteen years old. Sixteen, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was sixteen. And by the way, this is Lydia

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Speaker 1: Saran I filling in for Jesse Kelly again. You can

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Speaker 1: follow me on social media at Lydia News l I

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Speaker 1: d I a n e WS and you can watch

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Speaker 1: me on Newsmax. I was a reporter at Fox five

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Speaker 1: for several years. Then I was at WABC Radio in

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Speaker 1: New York City, and now I'm met Newsmax Saturday's at

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Speaker 1: five o'clock five pm Eastern and then Sundays at noon Eastern.

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Speaker 1: I'm filling in for Carl Higbee this Friday at six

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Speaker 1: usually during the week. So when I was sixteen years old,

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Speaker 1: I stole my parents minivan, I got my license, I

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Speaker 1: So I went to high school in the Bronx Cardinals

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Speaker 1: So I stole my parents minivan and we loaded up

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Speaker 1: I had never and here I was like driving with

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Speaker 1: the concert was epic. Uh. The lead the lead act

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Speaker 1: was the Google was Google Dolls, right, Google Dolls, then

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Speaker 1: No Doubt and Bush. And this was late nineties. This

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Speaker 1: was the height of Gavin Rossdale. The epitome of hotness.

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Speaker 1: And he's like sixty years old now and I still

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Speaker 1: go and see him. My husband is aware. He's come

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Speaker 1: we always make eye contact. Gavin Rossdale and not in

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Speaker 1: the concert, like you know, I've touched him and stuff

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Speaker 1: kind of way I touched him. But anyway, I like

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Speaker 1: and you know that's my jam. That's my jam. So

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Speaker 1: like the bands like can You. I don't know, can

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Speaker 1: You guys think I say, I don't have a call

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Speaker 1: screener because we're fair bones, because it's the holidays, and

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Speaker 1: that I would because I would love to hear from everybody.

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Speaker 1: You could tell me on social media at Lydia News

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Speaker 1: L I D I A N e WS. There there

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Speaker 1: are no good new bands anymore, back in the day

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Speaker 1: the Nirvana's and stuff like that. There where are those

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Speaker 1: this Pearl jo. I don't care. I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: as long as you still play that really good, amazing music.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know that guy what's his name, Billy

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Speaker 1: So anyway, that's that's my story. So now you kind

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Speaker 1: of understand where how I am. So I grew up

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Speaker 1: So Gwen Stefani is the lead singer of No Doubt.

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Speaker 1: no offense. So Gwen Sefani got a lot of hate

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Speaker 1: recently because she was promoting that Hallow app, which is

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Speaker 1: a Christian app, right, and it's about prayer. I actually

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Speaker 1: have the app, and all she did was say, you know,

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Speaker 1: there was all these articles written about her, slamming her,

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Speaker 1: And anti that's what they called it. If you have

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Speaker 1: so again this is how the left manipulates. You look

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Speaker 1: and that's what it said. Gwen Stefani. You know her

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Speaker 1: And this is what happens with people. We're attacked for

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Speaker 1: tomorrow too. And he said, you know what, I'm not

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's what we need to start saying instead

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Speaker 1: and then maybe people won't get so offensive. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: wanted you to listen to jd Vance. He said that

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Speaker 1: we are essentially a Christian nation and that's what this

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Speaker 2: and by the grace of God, we always will be,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why was that offensive? And you have President Trump

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Speaker 1: saying Merry Christmas. They put a Nativity scene, that's what

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Speaker 1: He was on I believe with David Spade. They won't

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Speaker 1: and you know, but and at what point, you know,

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Speaker 1: I saw I say Merry Christmas if I know the

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Speaker 1: I just say Merry Christmas because it is. It's Christmas.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say I won't say like something else, it's

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. It's Merry Christmas. It's my holiday. And

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Speaker 1: it's my holiday, it's our holiday. Merry Christmas. The one

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Speaker 1: True Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ, celebrating his birth. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's what we'll say. So when we come back, we'll

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Speaker 1: continue to talk about our faith, what's going on in

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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about Nancy Pelosi, which she

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. You are listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lydia Sarrane and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my girl,

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Speaker 1: Gwen Stefani. She's, you know, under attack for being a Christian,

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Speaker 1: for talking about her faith. Yeah, it's just it's so ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: like a lot of the true stories that Matt people

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Speaker 1: The lives at Stake cannot wait more than sixty current

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Speaker 1: and former NFL players are banding together and urging action

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Speaker 1: The presidents, they sent the players sent the President a

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Speaker 1: as well as House Speaker Mike Johnson. The letter rights,

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Speaker 1: Religious and ethnic persecution in Nigeria has reached a level

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Speaker 1: that demands immediate, concrete action from the United States. And

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Speaker 1: it's you know, among the sixty current and former NFL players,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's it's unbelievable. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of them. There's a lot of them from Houston, the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants, Saw Rock Party, San Francisco, forty nine Ers, CJ. CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: The letter rights. As men who have been entrusted with

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Speaker 1: kids are being you know, Boko Haram, that is an

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Speaker 1: Islamic terror group. They'll just say, oh, it's warlords, they're fighting,

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Speaker 1: they're infighting. Nobody wants to say, what's really happening. And

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Speaker 1: what's really happening is you've got Islamic radicals that are

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Speaker 1: chopping people's heads off on their kidnapping children, school children,

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Speaker 1: it because they're black? Maybe they don't care. You see,

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Speaker 5: on of the strong against the weak. And whether these

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Speaker 5: same that it's the war against marriage. It's a war

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Speaker 5: those same warriors in the radical left culture of death

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Speaker 5: They will try to obliterate us in one way or another.

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Speaker 1: Again, we're speaking with Father Frank Pavone and Mother Teresa

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Speaker 1: again she is our Albanian hero. She talked about abortion.

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Speaker 1: She said, I quote, I feel the greatest destroyer of

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Speaker 1: the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murdered

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Speaker 1: we tell other people not to kill one another? How

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Speaker 1: do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion?

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Speaker 1: As always, we must persuade her with love, and we

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Speaker 1: must remind ourselves that love me means to be willing

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Speaker 1: to give until it hurts. And yet, and we know

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Speaker 1: And again you have the Democrat party that advocates for

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Speaker 1: Father Pavone is Can you be a Christian and be

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Speaker 5: Not anymore? Certainly there was a time when you could.

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Speaker 5: And the reason that we say this is is not

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Speaker 5: we're saying is that being a Christian means that you

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Speaker 5: It's not just oh, I pray to God, I believe

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Speaker 5: I let me just put the label on myself and

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Speaker 5: Then you look at the Democrat Party, it has a

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Speaker 5: content too. There are certain dogmas, there are certain positions

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Speaker 5: that says there should be certain limits on even late

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Speaker 5: you know, the people you know, in in positions, in

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Speaker 5: is is true. You cannot be not in our day

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Father Pavone. We're going to continue this conversation.

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Speaker 1: If you guys remember former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. She was

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Speaker 1: denied communion the Eucharists, which we Catholics believe is the

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Speaker 1: Salvatore Cordolioni. He publicly stated in May twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: that she was barred from receiving Holy Communion because of

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Speaker 1: you to be able. She still believes it. So this

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Speaker 1: woman's going to burn in hell. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about her because you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to judge. I know, Father, you don't

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Speaker 1: discussing human being. When we return, stay there, father, don't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere. We're going to continue talking about this and

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Speaker 1: why Christian persecution continues to be ignored, but not by

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Speaker 1: President Trump. He is he is looking into it. Were

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Speaker 1: going to get to the bottom of it. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lydia Soaran I in for Jesse Kelly and we're

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Speaker 1: going to be right back. Welcome back to the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. I am Lydia Soarran I at Lydia News

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Speaker 1: L I d I A n e WS. It's been

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Speaker 1: so amazing to be on with you guys this evening.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back tomorrow to fill in for Jesse again.

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Speaker 1: We were talking before about Nancy Pelosi and what a

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Speaker 1: like Joe Biden. Here's I want you to clip nine.

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Speaker 1: Here's what she said about Joe Biden she was talking

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Speaker 1: to sixty minutes. Correspondal, listen to this.

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Speaker 7: Such a consequential president of the United States, a mount

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Speaker 7: Rushmore kind of president of the United States. I want

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Speaker 7: to know what comes next that he belongs up there

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Speaker 7: on Mount Rushmore, Lincoln and Joe Biden. But you got

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Speaker 7: Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful. I don't say

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Speaker 7: take him down, but you can add Biden so.

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Speaker 1: Crazy, she's father provone. Why is it that the church

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Speaker 1: is so for not I don't even want to say

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Speaker 1: it's forgiving, so permissible when it comes to people that

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Speaker 1: openly contradict fundamentally what the Church stands for and what

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ himself would be vehemently against. So why allow

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Speaker 1: Kathy Hokel who claims to be Catholics, Why allow them

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Speaker 1: to get to allow them to receive the Body of Christ?

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Speaker 1: What kind of message does that send?

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Speaker 5: Well, Lydia, it's bad leadership. And you know that's actually

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Speaker 5: how our ministry arose. Some years ago, I got into

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Speaker 5: she starts off by saying, oh, well, you know, I'm

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Speaker 5: started pointing out myself included that, wait a minute, your

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Speaker 5: position contradicts the very Catholic faith you claiming to embrace.

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Speaker 5: You know what her response was, Oh, well, you know

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Speaker 5: this is a private matter, you know, between me and God,

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Speaker 5: and you know my bishop and my priest. I said,

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Speaker 5: wait one minute. You are the one who said you're

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Speaker 5: a faithful, practicing Catholic. At that moment, you made your

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Speaker 5: reference to a piece of legislation. You could have just

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Speaker 5: addressed the legislation. You could have just addressed the fact

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Speaker 5: that your party and your policies allow killing a healthy

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Speaker 5: baby carried by a healthy mother in the seventh, eighth,

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Speaker 5: and ninth months of pregnancy. But no, you didn't want

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Speaker 5: to address the merits of the issue. You wanted to

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Speaker 5: try to hide behind your oh, faithful, sincere practicing Catholic.

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Speaker 5: You didn't have to bring up your faith at all.

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Speaker 5: I say the same thing about Joe Biden. You know,

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Speaker 5: Oh I carried a rosary and oh I received from

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Speaker 5: Why you know, why do we care about that? You

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Speaker 5: re elected you to be a president, not a pastor.

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Speaker 5: Tell us about the policy and try to justify. So

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Speaker 5: the bottom line is Lydia. You know why these people

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Speaker 5: feel so confident in invoking their Catholicism and taking positions

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Speaker 5: completely contrary to Catholicism because they have got priests that

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Speaker 5: they go to who are misleading them. They're not coming

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Speaker 5: to this on their own. They're not theologians. They're relying

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Speaker 5: on priests who are telling them, oh, you know, don't worry,

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Speaker 5: there's justification for taking these positions. That's why I lead

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Speaker 5: a ministry called Priests for a Life, because which time

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Speaker 5: there's need for reform in the church. Just like we've

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Speaker 5: got weak and cowardly politicians that will talk and talk

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Speaker 5: and talk and you don't know what in the world

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Speaker 5: they just said. So we have the same problem in

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Speaker 5: the pulpit where you've got this vacuous, a cowardly beating

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Speaker 5: around the bush. They're they're talking, and they're not changing anyone.

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Speaker 5: They're not challenging anyone. It's all this feel good garbage. No,

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Speaker 5: we need renewal within the clergy, just we need the

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Speaker 5: spirit that President Trump has brought into the political world

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Speaker 5: and the fight fight fight, and the clear talking and

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Speaker 5: and the and the and the kind of talking that

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Speaker 5: sitting in their living rooms. This is what we need

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Speaker 5: coming from the pulpit, and that's what our ministry tries

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Speaker 5: to do, and it includes challenging exactly the problem you

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Speaker 5: are just bringing out in the in the in the

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Speaker 5: likes of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and unfortunately a

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Speaker 5: whole bunch of others at various levels of government.

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Speaker 1: Father Frank Pavone, I always love having you on and

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Speaker 1: where again can people find you and reach you and

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Speaker 1: talk to you because you are just I love the

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Speaker 1: way you are just such a defender, of course of

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Speaker 1: the unborn, but also of the truth.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I'm at Fr Frank Pavone on all

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Speaker 5: the social media platforms Fr Frank Pavone, and our main

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Speaker 5: website is pro lifecentral dot org. Pro lifecentral dot org.

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Speaker 1: Father Pavone, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Lydia. God bless God, bless everyone out there listening

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Speaker 1: to this. You know there is even these nativity displays.

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Speaker 1: I saw it in I think it's Meetam, Massachusetts where

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Speaker 1: they said, oh Mary, they had they don't have Mary

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Speaker 1: there until Christmas Day, but they don't even have Marry

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Speaker 1: and Jesus. And they said, oh, it's because of ice.

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Speaker 1: And the archdiocese told them to put them, to put

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Speaker 1: them back, and they were the priest is refusing, you know,

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Speaker 1: they stop comparing what's going on with Mary and Jesus

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Speaker 1: and Joseph, because they were not illegal aliens. They were

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Speaker 1: going to Egypt, they left Bethlehem. They were going to

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Speaker 1: answer for a census. So stop with the lies, stop

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Speaker 1: with the bs. Stands up for the truth. And I

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Speaker 1: actually go to a different church now because my priest

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Speaker 1: was spewing these stupid, nonsensical lies about migrants and this

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Speaker 1: and that. You know, it's at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you just got to call it like it is and

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Speaker 1: and speak the truth. Because what did you just say,

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Speaker 1: I'm the Way, the truth and the light right. He

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Speaker 1: didn't say, I'm not going to tell you the truth

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Speaker 1: if it hurts your feelings. So it's been an awesome

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Speaker 1: experience being with you guys. As always again, I'm Lydia

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Speaker 1: E W S. God bless you guys, Merry Christmas. I

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Speaker 1: look forward to talking to you tomorrow, and have a

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Speaker 1: great and blessed night, and trust and remember that God

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Speaker 1: is with you and always, always,