Speaker 1: Don't want to be an American.
Speaker 2: The answer to the question do you miss me? Would
Speaker 2: be who slowly back on seven hundred w l ws.
Speaker 2: I said back a little longer than I explained to
Speaker 2: be out at this point, I'm the injury, but I'm
Speaker 2: playing injured. Unlike some people, I can play injured. Explain
Speaker 2: to me. Austin Elmore is in from ESPN fifteen thirty. Well,
Speaker 2: chop up the Reds demise. But here's Joe Burrow, the
Speaker 2: multi billion dollar quarterback. We're not gonna do here we go,
Speaker 2: You're not in the game.
Speaker 3: After being gone, you take more vacation time than Willie,
Speaker 3: and then you have this phantom ankle injury that keeps
Speaker 3: you out for an extra month, and you want to
Speaker 3: come in here talking about the durability of Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it. I'm Joe Burrow, and
Speaker 2: I am more able. Jimmy kimmeled your ass. That's what
Speaker 2: should have happened. I go in for an ankle procedure,
Speaker 2: which thought, hey, I got this bone rubbing out of
Speaker 2: ten and it's kind of sore. Yeah. Two hours later,
Speaker 2: her surgeon consentsals, my wife, your husband has been walking
Speaker 2: around for god knows how long on a fully ruptured
Speaker 2: foot foot tended. That's insane and uh is that what?
Speaker 2: You blame your golf game on me? And now I
Speaker 2: got Now there's no excuses. Yeah, you got your shoulder fixed,
Speaker 2: you got your ankle fixed. You better get the game fixed.
Speaker 2: I'm like a Nascar The right side of my body
Speaker 2: has been I got to the left side. Now, Holy crap,
Speaker 2: just need an oil change. My search is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you fully ruptured your tendon. It's gonna be a minute.
Speaker 2: Could you think of a moment when you did it?
Speaker 2: Because there a pinpoint I'm speaking of my my you know,
Speaker 2: eight thousand vacation days. We were in Australia and I
Speaker 2: felt like a little pop and it hurt for like
Speaker 2: the better part of a day. But she said you
Speaker 2: probably did it before that it was something else. So
Speaker 2: I'd like, I don't know, man, I'm just stupid. Well,
Speaker 2: my younger my younger brother actually had surgery yesterday on
Speaker 2: his shoulder and they're like, you know, we fixed your shoulder,
Speaker 2: but apparently somewhere along line, you rupture your bicep. Completely
Speaker 2: had no idea. Nope, that's true, Like we just have
Speaker 2: no money Badgers. I was watching and what was it.
Speaker 2: It was called Nova Can the guy who could Feel
Speaker 2: No pain. It's like that should be the nickname.
Speaker 3: Now, okay, wow, yeah, Like all right, well guy, I
Speaker 3: guess I'm glad you're no.
Speaker 2: It's fine. I mean there's and there's in all seriousness,
Speaker 2: there's people who have far worse more illnesses. So I'll
Speaker 2: take some osteoarthritis and attended seven and whatever. It's there's
Speaker 2: worst crap out there and one of those things that's
Speaker 2: causing a lot of pain. Today. Uh, Sunday was wonderful
Speaker 2: because Sunday the champagne was flowing. The shirts came out.
Speaker 2: You get your limited edition built for Fall shirts. Maybe
Speaker 2: second guessing that purchase this morning Wednesday, I'm really glad
Speaker 2: I didn't go down to that shop. You know, you're
Speaker 2: not that guy. I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that sort of stuff, but I only will
Speaker 3: buy it, really if the team advances. I have a
Speaker 3: Bengals Super Bowl fifty six quarters it yeah, still has
Speaker 3: the tags on it. Never worn it not at all
Speaker 3: because they didn't win. It just sits in my car.
Speaker 2: I don't wear the Hey wild Card, like if you
Speaker 2: win the World Series, Super Bowl. Whatever. Did you see
Speaker 2: the different story of the hat with the post? How
Speaker 2: much seventy dollars? It's insane. Somebody right now is looking,
Speaker 2: this's going, I'm really stupid. I'm really I should not.
Speaker 4: Don't.
Speaker 2: Don't fall into that. That means nothing, right, Championships means something,
Speaker 2: even like AFC National League champion Pennant went okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: but he win the division. Yeah I'm not but I'm
Speaker 2: not buying that. It's just it's so anyway, Uh, how
Speaker 2: do you kill cockerroaches with a big, heavy bat with
Speaker 2: a Louisville slugger, Because that's what happened on two games.
Speaker 2: They're eighteen to nine. They're outscored. The longest drought in
Speaker 2: sports continues for the Red Legs. Austin Elmore, my boy
Speaker 2: from ESPN fifteen thirty. El here, he and Tony Pike
Speaker 2: this afternoon, about noon talking about this and all these
Speaker 2: sports misery. We went in a short period of weeks
Speaker 2: when like FC was rolling. The Reds are in a
Speaker 2: historic run right now to close out the season, get
Speaker 2: in the postseason. You got the Bengals kick off, oh well,
Speaker 2: two and zero, and all of a sudden, in a
Speaker 2: few short weeks all, it all burned down. Yeah, from
Speaker 2: the time I left and came back, the whole city
Speaker 2: burned down. What the hell happened? I wish I could
Speaker 2: explain it, I really do. Like, obviously, the Burrow injury
Speaker 2: changes everything for the Bengals, and the way that they
Speaker 2: performed in Minnesota, You're like, Okay, just got away from them,
Speaker 2: Surely they're not that bad. And then they confirmed that
Speaker 2: they are that bad with the way that they perform
Speaker 2: in Denver, and all of a sudden you've lost all
Speaker 2: expectations for the Bengals. And then with the Reds it
Speaker 2: was the exact opposite. They played just good enough to
Speaker 2: outlast the Mets and get into the playoffs. Normally, an
Speaker 2: eighty three win team is not going to get you
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. The Reds were just enough better than
Speaker 2: the Mets, who had a historical collapse and the same
Speaker 2: and half of the season to get into the The
Speaker 2: Reds did not go on this surge of offense and
Speaker 2: pitching in defense to earn a spot into the postseason.
Speaker 2: They simply didn't play as bad as the Mets. In
Speaker 2: all fairness, they played a really good series against the
Speaker 2: Milwaukee team was resting some guyst the Chicago Cubs swept
Speaker 2: the Cubs, so down the stretch they did some some
Speaker 2: and I you know people, well, yeah, you but Milwaukee's
Speaker 2: resting their starters and there. Yeah, but you still did
Speaker 2: something you haven't been able to do, I think since
Speaker 2: Kennedy was president, feels like and that was beat it.
Speaker 2: Take a series in Milwaukee, brothers in Milwaukee on top
Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, but what does that mean?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: You were in the playoffs? Okay, so had they lost
Speaker 2: they swept again, they wouldn't be in and they played
Speaker 2: two more games. It's another beat. It's a it's another
Speaker 2: baby step forward. The big question.
Speaker 3: It's a baby step because in a normal year, an
Speaker 3: eighty three win team is not going to make.
Speaker 2: That at all. But you did. So they did it.
Speaker 2: Now what happens in the offseason, that's going to be
Speaker 2: the three hundred fifty million dollar questions for sure. And
Speaker 2: I'll start with that because because you often hear, especially
Speaker 2: with a team like the Dodgers, where they have a
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty bazillion dollars payroll in the top
Speaker 2: three guys and they're there are one, two three guys
Speaker 2: make more than the entirety of your club combined, and
Speaker 2: we're not even getting into pitchers and everyone else. It is,
Speaker 2: Can the Reds actually compete on that stage? Now you
Speaker 2: look at that go, well, Cleveland's in there. There's some
Speaker 2: smaller market teams, smaller payroll teams that did really well.
Speaker 2: The Mets didn't do much or were the Mets right now.
Speaker 2: They've got a really high payroll. But at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, can you really compete at that level?
Speaker 3: Yes, you can. The Milwaukee Brewers have a lower payroll
Speaker 3: in the Reds. They're the number one seed in the
Speaker 3: National League.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 3: Everything they do is first classes and the way it's
Speaker 3: scouting and development in their minor league system, in their
Speaker 3: pitching department, all of it. And so, if you are
Speaker 3: going to be an organization that chooses not to compete
Speaker 3: at the highest level financially with the top guys in
Speaker 3: the National League, which the Reds do, they do. They
Speaker 3: have that type of money, the Dodgers' money. No, nobody
Speaker 3: has the Dodgers' money, but the Reds. The Reds could
Speaker 3: be much more. They could spend much more money than
Speaker 3: they do. They choose not to. So if you're going
Speaker 3: to operate that way, you better have the rest of
Speaker 3: your button, your operation buttoned up, and it doesn't feel
Speaker 3: like they have that entirely buttoned up right now because
Speaker 3: there was not enough development this year from young players.
Speaker 3: I think you feel really good about Noel vi Marte.
Speaker 3: I think you feel really good about salth Stewart. Awesome,
Speaker 3: but you're questioning Ellie de la Cruz defensively took a
Speaker 3: step back. Matt McClain put together one of the worst
Speaker 3: offensive seasons in the history of the Reds franchise, and
Speaker 3: he played nearly every day. Austin Hayes one year deal,
Speaker 3: hurt all the time, Miguel andhar expiring deal, good acquisition.
Speaker 3: Maybe you consider bringing him back. TJ friedel red hot
Speaker 3: for the first seventy five games of the season, just
Speaker 3: a guy for the back half. Stevenson injured, Okay, not great,
Speaker 3: Jose Travino fell off a cliff, Gavin Lux not a
Speaker 3: complete liability defensively. So there's clearly a lot of work
Speaker 3: that needs to be done on this roster. And I
Speaker 3: give Terry francona credit for all of what I just said.
Speaker 3: He did a good job with them of weathering the
Speaker 3: storm and keeping them competitive. He never let it unravel.
Speaker 3: That felt like that was the best that you could
Speaker 3: get out of this group of guys. Terry Francona got
Speaker 3: the best out of what he was given. Yeah, as
Speaker 3: he always does. I would say that up until like
Speaker 3: the last two weeks of the season into the playoffs,
Speaker 3: I found myself second guessing him more than of Zach Lettel.
Speaker 3: Zach Lettel, I mean, I got it right here. So
Speaker 3: the whole idea of the Reds making the playoffs was
Speaker 3: they have Hunter Green, they have Nicolodolo, and they have
Speaker 3: Andrew Rabbit. Andrew Rabbit pitching the All Star Game this year,
Speaker 3: he didn't pitch in the postseason. Yeah, Niicolodolo last Night
Speaker 3: fourteen was filthy. He threw fourteen pitches. Yeah, and Hunter
Speaker 3: Green did not meet the moment through sixty five pitches
Speaker 3: and got showed.
Speaker 2: Did anyone see that?
Speaker 3: So the reason that they were supposed to be competitive
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and I thought they would be competitive,
Speaker 3: I legitimately hand up. I gave up on this team.
Speaker 3: I quit on this team. I second guessed this team.
Speaker 3: But I said the entire time, if they make the postseason,
Speaker 3: they can make some noise because of their pitching, and
Speaker 3: Abbott and Lodolo combined for fourteen pitches.
Speaker 2: For the ball for the second half of the season,
Speaker 2: probably last third of the season. I was convinced, Okay,
Speaker 2: this feels to me, it's a five hundred team, right,
Speaker 2: It's a five hundred ball club, maybe a couple of
Speaker 2: games over below. But he kind of backed into the
Speaker 2: playoffs with the Mets collapsing as they did, and it
Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, it's not twenty five, it's twenty six,
Speaker 2: it's twenty seven, that they're going to get this thing together.
Speaker 2: Put it in. I get the criticism of Terry frank ConA,
Speaker 2: but did anyone expect to his credit? Okay, so he
Speaker 2: pitches zach Lytell, and he went why the hell would
Speaker 2: he not? Why is Loddole only getting a dozen pitches?
Speaker 2: Why are you saying having Abbott for a game three
Speaker 2: that may not happen. You know you've got to play
Speaker 2: for tomorrow. You gotta play for today, not tomorrow. I
Speaker 2: understand the second guessing he's a Hall of Fame manager.
Speaker 2: I give why birth to that, because he has a
Speaker 2: track record of success where he goes. The zach Lytell
Speaker 2: start was certainly questionable, but you know to him going
Speaker 2: to you don't know what your game one day the next.
Speaker 2: The biggest evidence of that, as you mentioned, is Hunter Green.
Speaker 2: Did anyone expect Hunter Green in Game one to collapse
Speaker 2: as quickly and as easily as said? No one believed that.
Speaker 3: And here's the other part of the whole conversation of
Speaker 3: having your operation buttoned up. It was revealed yesterday afternoon
Speaker 3: that the Reds were tipping their pitches did in Game one,
Speaker 3: and Hunter Green was the chief among them, and he
Speaker 3: obviously gets touched up by the Dodgers. How do you
Speaker 3: not know going into the postseason what your tels are.
Speaker 3: Mike Napoli is on the Reds pitching staff, he or
Speaker 3: is on the Reds coaching staff. He's there because he's
Speaker 3: really good at that picking up guys that are tipping pitches,
Speaker 3: both on the opponents and on themselves. Well, first of all,
Speaker 3: how many times have the Reds off exploded offensively? It
Speaker 3: makes you feel like, oh, the other team was tipping
Speaker 3: their pitches. Never happens. And how do you not have
Speaker 3: a self scout in there in your system to say,
Speaker 3: Hunter you're doing this with your glove when you throw
Speaker 3: a breaking ball. You're doing this with your foot when
Speaker 3: you throw a fastball. Whatever it is like that sort
Speaker 3: of stuff is what I'm saying. You have to have
Speaker 3: that buttoned up because you don't have the talent advantage
Speaker 3: against the best teams in baseball.
Speaker 2: And that's at least twice has happened this season where
Speaker 2: somebody's tiping their pitches. It happened with Chase Burns in Boston. Right,
Speaker 2: how many other clubs have you heard this season that happen?
Speaker 2: By the way, Chase Burns is another one. He pitched
Speaker 2: the eighth inning last night. The game was out of hand.
Speaker 2: What are we doing? You're not gonna You're.
Speaker 3: Pitching is your strength and they combined for seventy six
Speaker 3: pitches seventy nine pitches.
Speaker 2: The other side of that, though, is offensively speaking, it's
Speaker 2: sound like, you know, the Dodgers have a Vulnert but
Speaker 2: in their bullpen versus ours, and did not exploit that.
Speaker 2: Now they did anyone think last night? That a two
Speaker 2: run lead, and it was great to see them pouncing
Speaker 2: on him early. I mean, that was awesome. Right. Sure,
Speaker 2: you mentioned Sal Stewart, I am I'm definitely buying some
Speaker 2: sales Stewart. I love that guy for a rookie to
Speaker 2: show what he did at Chabez Ravine that clutch shit
Speaker 2: to drive runs in fantastic and I think it's unfair
Speaker 2: to him, but shows the kind of guy he's for
Speaker 2: hanging that loss on him and that that throwing here
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of other problems I had that
Speaker 2: was not at all on sales. Stewart, that's that. I
Speaker 2: look at what transpired in that regard last night and
Speaker 2: it just leaves me shaking my head, going, well, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, you got a great bullpen, you get to
Speaker 2: the Dodgers billing and can't produce runs. I look at
Speaker 2: Ellie de la Cruz wearing that forty four, and we
Speaker 2: heard the story on the telecast last night million million
Speaker 2: times about how Rick Stobe but quet that number on
Speaker 2: him because he reminded him of Eric Davis. He has
Speaker 2: got a long way to go, a long way to
Speaker 2: go before he's at the level of Eric Davis. Is Ellie,
Speaker 2: you know, we talk about he's a superstar. He's a
Speaker 2: every commercial you see for mlbing a promo, Ellie's on there. Ay,
Speaker 2: all well and good, but what's that guy done? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It was a tough season for Ellie. I know there
Speaker 3: was a lot of off field issues and the loss
Speaker 3: of his sister. He had a quad injury that I
Speaker 3: think was probably a little more severe than we realized
Speaker 3: that he played through. He had adjusted that swing to
Speaker 3: where there was a toe tap instead of a leg kick,
Speaker 3: and when he went back to the leg kick, some
Speaker 3: of the power went back. Defensively, he was atrocious up
Speaker 3: until the last two weeks of the season. A difficult
Speaker 3: season for Ellie, but there were moments in which you
Speaker 3: were waiting for him to grab hold of it and
Speaker 3: to become that superstar and to match all the hype.
Speaker 3: I did an entire segment about this going into the
Speaker 3: game on Tuesday night, which is, yeah, Hunter Green is starting,
Speaker 3: and that's cool, but this is a chance for Elie
Speaker 3: de la Cruz to emerge, yes, and to.
Speaker 2: Be the guy. And he didn't do it. He didn't
Speaker 2: do it last night with the bases loaded. It sucks.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no other way to say it. It
Speaker 3: stinks that in that moment, your guy didn't have a moment,
Speaker 3: and you know there was a.
Speaker 2: Couple of time opportunities.
Speaker 3: Yeah he did. He's had opportunities all season, He's just loaded.
Speaker 3: Come on, and the Reds, you know, with runners in
Speaker 3: scoring position and when the bases loaded, are among the
Speaker 3: worst two worst teams in baseball. That's this was a
Speaker 3: perfect encapsulation of their season. And it sucks for Ellie,
Speaker 3: it really does. It sucks for Reds fans. I don't
Speaker 3: know how else to say it.
Speaker 2: Well again, and maybe he needs a few reps next
Speaker 2: season too. Is not playing every yeah.
Speaker 3: And Jeff Brantley made a point about that is next year,
Speaker 3: the kids got to get some days off.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And there was actually a moment last night Doug Glanville
Speaker 3: on the TV broadcast played for Terry Francona in Philadelphia,
Speaker 3: and he had told Terry Francona, I want to play
Speaker 3: all one hundred and sixty two games, right, And there
Speaker 3: was a point later in the season where Francona comes
Speaker 3: up to him and says, it looks like the bat
Speaker 3: is swinging you. I'm giving you a day off.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's got to be able to do that with
Speaker 2: Eli Da La Cruz next year. And I think there's
Speaker 2: a learning even his advance, his advanced age and all
Speaker 2: the experience he has, Terry would tell he admit that
Speaker 2: he learned something new every day, which is that's what
Speaker 2: makes him the Hall of Famer that he is. It
Speaker 2: was awfully tough to watch Game one because you know,
Speaker 2: it was out a hand early, and I think for
Speaker 2: a lot of Reds fans, did you have a sense
Speaker 2: like as soon as Otani hit that that jack jack
Speaker 2: that first, You're like, man, maybe this this run is over.
Speaker 2: You know what to do that to the first inning,
Speaker 2: the first pitch, But boy, you know that was an
Speaker 2: eye opening moment for me, and it got worse from there.
Speaker 2: In Game one, you're hoping for a bounce back ten
Speaker 2: who it started that way, and you're like, we got
Speaker 2: to get more than two runs against this Dodger team,
Speaker 2: and they didn't until it was too late. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I kind of figured once the home runs happened
Speaker 2: that the game one was over, just because I know
Speaker 2: the Reds don't have the ability to score a bunch
Speaker 2: of runs, So you know, that one I thought it
Speaker 2: was over. But I legitimately thought the plan going into
Speaker 2: last night, if lttel can go through the order once
Speaker 2: and then get you through to Lodolo, you'll be good.
Speaker 2: Everybody on the planet knew that you can't leave Lodolo
Speaker 2: or Lattel in more than that batter in the fourth
Speaker 2: Yea and Francona did. There was, if I have any criticisms,
Speaker 2: there was times towards the end of this season where
Speaker 2: it felt like Terry Francona didn't have the feel for
Speaker 2: the game. And that's concerning to me. All right, off season,
Speaker 2: Red's gonna We're gonna talk about this all offseason. And
Speaker 2: now a lot of this is it's not about Terry
Speaker 2: francne Is. It's gonna certainly be on the front off.
Speaker 2: It's going to be Bob and Phil in time to
Speaker 2: open up the purse strings, micause you got this far.
Speaker 2: My final point is this, Yes, you can be happy
Speaker 2: that the Reds made an appearance in the postseason, but
Speaker 2: you should at no point feel satisfied with what they accomplished.
Speaker 2: They shouldn't feel that way, Bob, Phil, Nick, Terry, every
Speaker 2: player on that team. There was a sense of accomplishment
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse last night, and that's bs. They should
Speaker 2: not feel that way because this team underachieved. As far
Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, A lot left on the table and
Speaker 2: waiting for that moment to go Okay, good this this
Speaker 2: is a pause, and now we move forward.
Speaker 3: The goal should always be much, much more than just
Speaker 3: making an appearance in the postseason. The Reds have the
Speaker 3: longest playoff advancement drought in North American sports at over
Speaker 3: thirty years. Until you change, and until you actually advance,
Speaker 3: no one's going to take you seriously. And I will
Speaker 3: not celebrate postseason appearances. Don't buy the postseason built for
Speaker 3: fall shirt. So you spend your money however you want.
Speaker 3: I don't care until I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting till you do. You got to do something.
Speaker 2: You got to show me something. Win the division, win something.
Speaker 2: Austin Elmore late today new in ESPN fifteen thirty. Are
Speaker 2: lots to talk about with him and to Pike, thanks Budy,
Speaker 2: appreciate you seven hundred WW. Every time there's a protest
Speaker 2: place like oh Portland, for example, and people are on
Speaker 2: the streets, and then the people in law enforcement wearing
Speaker 2: the helmets and have the batons out and the shields,
Speaker 2: and when these people get arrested for not they always
Speaker 2: start crying. You kind of knew it's coming. If you
Speaker 2: don't get out, you're surprised at you're crying that you're
Speaker 2: getting arrested. I just I don't understand it. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't get it. But that's part of old Agehoe
Speaker 2: is getting all banged ups. Loney back on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: All right, the ankle's making but we're making progress on
Speaker 2: the ankle. Three more weeks and I can put it.
Speaker 2: How about that good times to be had? You know this,
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I haven't listened at all because
Speaker 2: I've been kind of out of it. But the government shutdown.
Speaker 2: Get into that for a minute here before other stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, it's the same tired political game that goes on,
Speaker 2: and if you're cheering for one side or the other,
Speaker 2: then you know, maybe you want to take pause and
Speaker 2: just listen for a second. Because everything you need to
Speaker 2: know about this shutdown comes from a headline from of
Speaker 2: all things, the athletic, and the headline is that what
Speaker 2: the athletic? What has that got to do with the shutdown?
Speaker 2: Here's your headline. Air Force versus Navy football will go
Speaker 2: on as scheduled. The ongoing US government shutdown will not
Speaker 2: impact the playing of college sports games at Air Force
Speaker 2: Army and Navy. What does that tell you about the
Speaker 2: seriousness of those who are shutting our government down. It's
Speaker 2: all theater. If you manufacture a crisis and pretend it's
Speaker 2: the other side that's evil in doing this, and you
Speaker 2: get enough people to believe you, you win, because fear
Speaker 2: is the currency of power. The truth is how much
Speaker 2: has actually closed? Do you have an idea of how
Speaker 2: you look at all the federal government? The eleventy billion
Speaker 2: eleveny what is it, eleven dy billion dot, whatever the
Speaker 2: hell it is, of how much money we spend every minute?
Speaker 2: The shutdown effects about eight percent of that federal budget.
Speaker 2: Eight percent of the federal budget is not funded currently
Speaker 2: because of the shutdown. In the order itself, it requires
Speaker 2: it non essential departments shut down. What should enrage all
Speaker 2: of us, especially those of us who are either those
Speaker 2: of you who are really conservative Magget conservatives or lean
Speaker 2: to the right, or libertarian like me, because that means
Speaker 2: that the Maga Doze phonies consider ninety two percent of
Speaker 2: government to be essential. I thought, this is about shedding.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second, because you may,
Speaker 2: just because of the nature of the way this is going,
Speaker 2: shed some jobs here. But so that means that those
Speaker 2: who are going to shut this thing down, ninety two
Speaker 2: percent of government is essential. Well, what was Doze about then?
Speaker 2: And Dooze literally figuratively didn't do anything. So you have defense,
Speaker 2: you have veterans affairs, you have health and human services,
Speaker 2: and labor and education and energy, and a bunch of
Speaker 2: air traffic controllers, Transportation Security Administration TSA officers. My daughter's
Speaker 2: flying today, so she'll be fine. Customers in Border Protection
Speaker 2: IRS FBI, all those agents are still on the job.
Speaker 2: About a quarter the FAA, though, is going to be furloughed,
Speaker 2: which again is just just enough, just enough disruption for
Speaker 2: someone to know. It's not going to shut the airlines down.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna shut anything, but it's gonna be just
Speaker 2: a little more, a little more crowd, a little more slow,
Speaker 2: little more plotting, just enough to maybe get your tender.
Speaker 2: You're still gonna get your student loan, You're still gonna
Speaker 2: get your Social Security, you're gonna blieve me, you're gonna
Speaker 2: be able to get your PLAVIXX. You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: But if you you know the thing is, if you
Speaker 2: really want to stop this BS, we're gonna shut the
Speaker 2: government down. Every time we don't get our way, or
Speaker 2: to send a message and bring America to its knees,
Speaker 2: which really doesn't have you really want to stop this,
Speaker 2: you know, Congress, the executive branch, the judiciaria. How about
Speaker 2: you don't get paid during a shutdown? What you can't
Speaker 2: not pay us? How about your health benefits go away?
Speaker 2: Members of the Senate, members of the Congress, you get
Speaker 2: in it. You can't go to the doctor, you can't
Speaker 2: get You're gonna have to pay out of pocket for
Speaker 2: stuff when the government shuts down. I know, okay, we can't.
Speaker 2: We gotta pay these guys because it's constitutional, it's protected.
Speaker 2: But what about the benefits? Why don't we cut the
Speaker 2: spict off to that? Why don you guys vote on that.
Speaker 2: Put that up there and say hello, and every time
Speaker 2: we shut the government down, we can't come with a
Speaker 2: budget and we'll get paid. But yeah, the healthcare of
Speaker 2: the perks, the car surface, all that stuff that they
Speaker 2: get that goes away. So we open things. But you
Speaker 2: don't think that would maybe we'd see a lot fewer
Speaker 2: disruptions like this. I would, because you know it's a
Speaker 2: temper tantrum. We want outrage for our cause. Not outrage
Speaker 2: at the system that encourages it. You know, if you
Speaker 2: again on that note, if you want to hear from
Speaker 2: constituents and they you know, they want you maybe paying
Speaker 2: attention to all the government's shutting down. This is bad.
Speaker 2: We've got to get this thing together and on what's
Speaker 2: causing this whole thing. If you cut medicare off in
Speaker 2: social security, that get it people's attention, right and and
Speaker 2: but now it's like, well, okay, what's the narrative on
Speaker 2: this thing, the shutdown? Well, Schumer really is under pressure
Speaker 2: from his base to show that Democrats are want to
Speaker 2: take the hammer to Trump and those the AOC who's
Speaker 2: been all over the place, the EOC is the world
Speaker 2: of progressives of the party are angry as Trump continues
Speaker 2: to get what he wants, and so like, hey, we'll
Speaker 2: shut things down and we'll use healthcare in this case
Speaker 2: as a pretext. And you know, the sad part about
Speaker 2: this thing is what we want. Okay, we need to
Speaker 2: save Obamacare. That's what this is about. This is about
Speaker 2: saving We got to there's twenty two million people who
Speaker 2: depend on this, and I agreed, and the healthcare has
Speaker 2: been a mess for a long time and Republicans hold
Speaker 2: a majority, but Democrats are needed to move those funding
Speaker 2: bills in the Senate, And so now it's the party
Speaker 2: attacking Republicans is irresponsible for threatening shutdowns in the past,
Speaker 2: and now they're shutting things down themselves and throwing their
Speaker 2: own temper tantrum, which further illustrates the silliness of politics.
Speaker 2: I will say, though, that as I look at this,
Speaker 2: maybe there's a chance that the federal workforce comes out
Speaker 2: and maybe it's a little bit smaller as result of
Speaker 2: this thing. Because you know Trump is and he's great
Speaker 2: at calling somebody's bluff saying okay, went after the Office
Speaker 2: of Budget Management and say, how about this, We'll start
Speaker 2: permanent job cuts as the government shuts down. But we
Speaker 2: know the government really never shuts down, as I just
Speaker 2: pointed out, by only eight percent of government shutting down,
Speaker 2: ninety two percent is still fully functional and funded, and somehow,
Speaker 2: some way, within a week or two at the most,
Speaker 2: the two parties always work out in agreement. And what
Speaker 2: the agreement is is, hey, you know what, we're just
Speaker 2: going to kick the can down the road for a
Speaker 2: few more months and spend a lot more money doing it,
Speaker 2: bankrupting America even further. That sound like a plan to you.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a plan, and that's what happens every
Speaker 2: stinging time. So the idea that somehow is like we're
Speaker 2: fighting for this guys who we're fighting for the American
Speaker 2: But they're fighting for yourselves. You're fighting for power and
Speaker 2: scaring people is the currency you spend to get what
Speaker 2: you want. And that's really how things work. That's how
Speaker 2: government works. But helps like eight percent. Okay, you look
Speaker 2: at that, go wait, wait a minute, this is about
Speaker 2: eight percent of the government. Yeah, the important stuff, that
Speaker 2: is stuff important to them. It still stays open, some
Speaker 2: big deal. It's illustrated by that point. The Air Force
Speaker 2: Navy football game will still go on. Well why isn't
Speaker 2: that shut down. I'm not saying I enjoy Service academy battles,
Speaker 2: especially the Army Navy game. We didn't like that. It's
Speaker 2: about as American as it gets. Tell you what, I've
Speaker 2: seen a game in Navy Marine Corps Stadium. It's a
Speaker 2: phenomenal play. I haven't seen anything at the other academies,
Speaker 2: but they're in Maryland. Absolutely, it puts a lump in
Speaker 2: your throat. It makes the hair in the back of
Speaker 2: your next ten. It's all of that. If you've ever
Speaker 2: been to a game there, it's fantastic to watch the
Speaker 2: midshipman come marching. It's really really cool. But okay, if
Speaker 2: we shut government down, why are we doing that? Well,
Speaker 2: that's different, is it is? That doesn't seem essential? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you can't. Really that's punishing the athletes of Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you're the ones guys shutting the government down, not them,
Speaker 2: not our soldiers and airmen and sailors. Well you don't understand.
Speaker 2: I understand perfectly. What you're doing is you're jerking our chain.
Speaker 2: Like if you really wanted to get stuff done in Washington,
Speaker 2: if there's an impetus to do that, you would. But
Speaker 2: you know, we again it's the nature of politics because
Speaker 2: we took what works in sports, and that is you
Speaker 2: know this, this this rabid fan base that we have
Speaker 2: for you look at look at everything in sports are
Speaker 2: gone all right? You look at people buying Bengals jerseys
Speaker 2: and helmets. You know, you see somebody wearing a I
Speaker 2: don't know, a Trump hat, or someone who has a
Speaker 2: bunch of you know, liberal bumper stickers on their Volvo
Speaker 2: driving on seventy five I mean, you're kind of buying
Speaker 2: that merch too. It's it's to we take in sports
Speaker 2: and just said, hey, you know what they worked for
Speaker 2: sports looking to rabbit. People are over sports. We'll just
Speaker 2: apply to the politics. That's pretty damn good. Let's do that.
Speaker 2: And we've kind of made a theater so you know,
Speaker 2: we're the ones that encourageous behavior. If we want to
Speaker 2: stop the nonsense. And I don't know if that day
Speaker 2: is coming or we said okay, enoughs enough already, then
Speaker 2: we say, all right, we're going to make some changes
Speaker 2: on who we vote for and who we're going to
Speaker 2: send a wash into our bidding. But that's not going
Speaker 2: to happen for a very very long time, if any
Speaker 2: time in my lifetime are yours? But the shocking fact
Speaker 2: of the matter is ninety two percent of government still
Speaker 2: operates just fine. It's the eight percent. It's kind of like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to I'm trying to look think at
Speaker 2: a really good metaphor for this kind of like let's say,
Speaker 2: I don't know, you show up to a place that
Speaker 2: you have business with and there's a front office and
Speaker 2: you go the doors are locked, and the receptionist desk
Speaker 2: is empty and it's dark. But meanwhile, in the back,
Speaker 2: if you kind of look around where the receptionist area is,
Speaker 2: you're like, there's people back there working. That's kind of
Speaker 2: what this is like. It's like, I don't know, a
Speaker 2: company holiday or something like, yeah, okay, well the forward
Speaker 2: facing people, the receptionists, the janitors, the vendors that okay,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're not going to put snacks back
Speaker 2: in the vending machine this week or two weeks, but
Speaker 2: everything else is still going to work. Well, that's what
Speaker 2: this is. Government's still working, all the important stuff's getting done.
Speaker 2: It's just they're showing us just how silly the whole
Speaker 2: battle is over. Well, what is this? This is over healthcare.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can negotiate this and not close the governm.
Speaker 2: But every time we have a shutdown, it's because of something,
Speaker 2: somebody trying to make a political point. And certainly they're
Speaker 2: fighting for the soul to the Democratic Party with the
Speaker 2: progressive Left and the Centrists and the you know, the
Speaker 2: Greg Lansman's against the others and so on, and that's
Speaker 2: all well and good, but I don't understand why you
Speaker 2: need to do this to make your point. You know,
Speaker 2: healthcare has been in atrocity in this country for a
Speaker 2: long time. And maybe I'll get this at a later
Speaker 2: date in that top of my head. You know, if
Speaker 2: you look over the last even twenty years, the number
Speaker 2: of businesses that are offering healthcare benefits, and particularly it's
Speaker 2: it's small business are fewer and fewer.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: If you're in a big company, you can offer great
Speaker 2: healthcare benefits. And I've been working for a big company.
Speaker 2: I take advantage that I just got off medical leave
Speaker 2: with ankle surgery because my company offers a wonderful health
Speaker 2: benefits package. And I'm very very fortunate and blessed and
Speaker 2: lucky to have that. I get that because if you
Speaker 2: work for a smaller company or smaller companies or a
Speaker 2: mom and pop, you can't afford the healthcare benefits used
Speaker 2: to be. That's like, okay, we've got to offer this
Speaker 2: stuff to stay comped. If you can't afford to do
Speaker 2: that anymore, and fear in fear companies, small companies and
Speaker 2: that'd be those who employ under two hundred, which are
Speaker 2: the bulk of employers in America, can't do that any longer.
Speaker 2: And we've heard from Democrats about how we have to
Speaker 2: save that for people. Okay, good, what's your plan. Well,
Speaker 2: we've got this Affordable Care Act thing. Okay, how's that work? Well,
Speaker 2: it pays your itself, except for the fact that we
Speaker 2: have to subsidize about twenty two million people for them
Speaker 2: to be able to afford it, and then even the
Speaker 2: people who aren't subsidized really can't afford it all that much.
Speaker 2: That works really well when you have it, but it
Speaker 2: really cost a hell of a lot of money. So
Speaker 2: we have to take government money to fund the healthcare
Speaker 2: program that we passed in the first place because we
Speaker 2: said it would save a lot of people. Well, then
Speaker 2: it doesn't pay for itself. It doesn't work. Well, it works,
Speaker 2: we just have to prop it up with subsidy. Well,
Speaker 2: then it doesn't work. If that's the case, And that's
Speaker 2: what they're dying on the sol far right now, or
Speaker 2: at least I guess the theater of dying on the
Speaker 2: hill for you and I. Meanwhile, we've had Republicans in
Speaker 2: power for a while, and when they continue to shoot
Speaker 2: down the Affordable Care Acts for pointing out what I
Speaker 2: just said and other things, nod your head and you
Speaker 2: agree with them, then you go, well, what's your plan? Well,
Speaker 2: have you heard any plans. I mean, we spend a lot.
Speaker 2: We're talking about spending on defense and ice and all
Speaker 2: these other things, not saying that those aren't bad causes,
Speaker 2: but healthcare is pretty important to a lot of us.
Speaker 2: And the older you got, the more important it is.
Speaker 2: Trust me, I'm the poster boy for that right now.
Speaker 2: It's not like Republicans are going, here's what we're going
Speaker 2: to do for healthcare other than oppose the ACA?
Speaker 7: What else?
Speaker 2: You got nothing? So, you know, instead of working for
Speaker 2: the party and our cause and our belief in getting
Speaker 2: us voted and get us in power, and the promises
Speaker 2: were going to change and everyone's life is going to
Speaker 2: be better, and we're going to hit you here. We
Speaker 2: are now well into Trump's term and I'm not quite
Speaker 2: seeing where all this money is. Everyone's going to be rich,
Speaker 2: and all the promises are made in the trail or
Speaker 2: not quite comes to fruition. Similarly, when Democrats get elected,
Speaker 2: same thing. The promises made are never kept. Some of
Speaker 2: them are the big ones day we kind of forgot about.
Speaker 2: But by and large, you know, healthcare isn't getting any better.
Speaker 2: It's getting worse. Arguably, it's getting worse. For us, but
Speaker 2: shutting government down to make for some gestures just stupid.
Speaker 2: It's irresponsible, which is fairly illustrative of how politics work
Speaker 2: for us, which is simply just not at all. But hey,
Speaker 2: the good news is Air Force and Navy are gonna
Speaker 2: play football this weekend, So the important stuff has been
Speaker 2: left open and saved by the federal government. And maybe
Speaker 2: we're a little bit cranky this morning because staying up
Speaker 2: late last night and getting fully invested in this Reds
Speaker 2: baseball team that bitterly disappointed us. Maybe there's another reason.
Speaker 2: Maybe looking well, you know, we've got the now we
Speaker 2: don't have the Bengals this weekend, got the Lions coming
Speaker 2: to town against the Bengals. And if you thought that
Speaker 2: Minnesota was bad, you think, okay, maybe that's a one
Speaker 2: not a one off, that's a trend. And I don't
Speaker 2: think the Lions are going to come in here and
Speaker 2: lay an egg. Probably not. And so we've time to
Speaker 2: look for things to distract us and go we'll take
Speaker 2: my man off the pain in agony real life, get
Speaker 2: me something new in jail. We don't even have that
Speaker 2: right now. I was tough watch last night. If you
Speaker 2: stayed up late to watch. I tuned out about the
Speaker 2: sixth seventh inning, said, I know how this movie is
Speaker 2: going to end. I guess I can watch the highlights
Speaker 2: in the morning, and I did, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm glad I got caught a few hours sleep last night.
Speaker 2: Reds get eliminated in LA at the hands of the
Speaker 2: almighty Dodgers. Is it a payroll issue? I Austin Olmore
Speaker 2: was just don said no, not as much, because Milwaukee's
Speaker 2: doing just fine and they have very low pay one
Speaker 2: of the lowest in baseball. So is it all a
Speaker 2: payroll issue or is it a front office issue?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: The front office, starting today has to get to work,
Speaker 2: get some bats in the lineup to help the Reds
Speaker 2: get over the homp, and hopefully at this time next
Speaker 2: year we'll be talking not about a wild card, but
Speaker 2: god forbid, maybe a division championship. Maybe sitting out and
Speaker 2: going okay, we're getting ready to find out who we
Speaker 2: play the wildcard teams because we're not one of them.
Speaker 2: And then hopefully on the division we move around the
Speaker 2: divisionals and then the League Series and of course the
Speaker 2: World Series, and we'll see what happens. Hopefully that is
Speaker 2: the case. In twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven
Speaker 2: for the Red Lags. Hopefully Joe Burrow heals in the offseason.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he comes back in December,
Speaker 2: that's going to be enough the way this team is
Speaker 2: playing right now. But hopefully brighter days are ahead. I
Speaker 2: think that's probably true for our sports teams as well
Speaker 2: as this country. At some point we will wake up.
Speaker 2: That's how it is. Scott Flown Show at five, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 2: seven tho eight hundred, Big One Talkback iHeartRadio app coming
Speaker 2: up at ten oh seven this morning. Here's an interesting
Speaker 2: story that kind of developed when I was out, and
Speaker 2: that is a truce between the Archdiocese of Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: the Girl Scouts of Western Ohio. And in case you
Speaker 2: haven't heard the story, because there'sen a lot of important
Speaker 2: stories going, but I like to focus on the local
Speaker 2: stuff too. As the Archdiocese apparently did a onoint eighty,
Speaker 2: the Girl Scouts are going to get kicked out because
Speaker 2: of their very leftist pro I don't know abortion policies.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's probably true at all with Girl Scouts,
Speaker 2: but that's what the previous archbishop thought. We got a
Speaker 2: new archbishop and looked at it and said, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's that's not what the Girl Scouts are about. The
Speaker 2: Girl Scouts have been saved for our community. I think
Speaker 2: that is a wonderful thing, because if you don't believe me,
Speaker 2: and I know there are fewer kids and Scouting ever before,
Speaker 2: I think we need it now more than ever because
Speaker 2: if you look around at the bloodshed, the violence, the nonsense,
Speaker 2: and the problems that happened this summer throughout Cincinnati, I
Speaker 2: know the people that were doing that were probably not
Speaker 2: Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts. We kind of need more
Speaker 2: of them in these times, not fewer of them. Anyway.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that right after news update on the
Speaker 2: Home of the Bengals, the Home of the Reds, and
Speaker 2: other frustration. Seven hundred WWD Cincinnati. It's slowing off the
Speaker 2: DL and back on seven hundred w welw and it's
Speaker 2: good to be back after sitting around for a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. Jump right back into it. So one of
Speaker 2: the stories I followed We All Together, was involving the
Speaker 2: Archdiocese of Cincinnati ending there over one hundred year partnership
Speaker 2: with the Girl Scouts of America because the bishop, the
Speaker 2: Archbishop Denis Schnur, I guess the former bishop, I should
Speaker 2: say at this point, just kind of out of the
Speaker 2: blue center letter to parishioners about a year ago explaining
Speaker 2: that at the end of this year, being twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: every Girl Start Troope would be kicked off unless they
Speaker 2: converted to an American Heritage Girl Trooper leieve. And this
Speaker 2: had to do with some noise coming from the Girl
Speaker 2: Scouts nationally anyway, because out of you know this, but
Speaker 2: they kind of operate. They're like independent operators. They can
Speaker 2: pick and choose what type of things they want to
Speaker 2: teach and what they're gonna what programs are going to
Speaker 2: offer girls, and that depends on where you live. Makes sense, right,
Speaker 2: And so the Girl Scouts wasn't high largely under the
Speaker 2: Archidives Cincinnati are Catholics themselves, and so the concern was
Speaker 2: they're going to teach a LGBTQ plus curricula to the girls,
Speaker 2: which was never happening in the first place. And now
Speaker 2: you have a new archbishop and Robert Casey, who read this,
Speaker 2: looked at it and said, yeah, they haven't been doing
Speaker 2: it before, and they came to an agreement although I
Speaker 2: can't figure it out myself. If you come to an
Speaker 2: agreement on something you haven't violated and haven't been doing well,
Speaker 2: what was the point of this all? Exercise? Jo on
Speaker 2: the show this morning on seven hundred WLW, whos a
Speaker 2: Jennifer British? He's a west Side Derek Trupley a Girl
Speaker 2: Scout leader and joins the show once again to discuss well.
Speaker 2: First of all, congratulations Jennifer.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, Scott.
Speaker 5: And it's not just me that deserves congratulating. So many
Speaker 5: women work tirelessly with the archdiocese to come to disagreement.
Speaker 7: Where the world.
Speaker 2: I know that these days the scouting in generals and
Speaker 2: it's been declining and been looked down by many people
Speaker 2: for years. It peaked I think in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: I was a Scout and my dad was an Eagle.
Speaker 2: My brother's an Eagle. So I've been through boy Scouts myself,
Speaker 2: and so it has a special place in my heart.
Speaker 2: I understand what it does for a young man and
Speaker 2: young women and does create future leaders. Gives you a
Speaker 2: base of knowledge. You get to experience different things that
Speaker 2: you may consider for career or vocation, whatever it might be,
Speaker 2: It makes you a broader person, more into a person.
Speaker 2: So I have a fun place in my heart for Scouting,
Speaker 2: and it tore my heart apart as yours did to
Speaker 2: see what you've gone through over the last year and
Speaker 2: seemingly unnecessarily.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean Scouting for me to family tradition,
Speaker 5: it's something that you know, I'm a truth leader. It
Speaker 5: gives me purpose, It gives me an opportunity to give
Speaker 5: back to girls and gives them opportunities that they would
Speaker 5: never have through school or through normal means. And so
Speaker 5: it's just it's an amazing program in general. To your point,
Speaker 5: we've been here a lot over the past year, a
Speaker 5: lot of uncertainty, a lot of fog over what would
Speaker 5: happen with our troops and and how we would continue
Speaker 5: to operate in the community. And this is a big day,
Speaker 5: a big deal for our troops and Catholic leaders across
Speaker 5: the arch type.
Speaker 2: The previous Archbishop, Denis Schnurr said, Girl Scouts embraced and
Speaker 2: promoted an impoverished worldview regarding gender and sexuality, and that
Speaker 2: includes the Girl Scouts of Western Ohio that the chapter's
Speaker 2: you on gender goes against Catholic teaching saying that they've
Speaker 2: used our false and harmful. But I've had you and
Speaker 2: others on the show several times and said, well, no,
Speaker 2: we you know, we don't teach that stuff. We don't
Speaker 2: have an inclusive together patch we hand out, we don't
Speaker 2: really celebrate LGBTQ plus prime months and recommending watching movies
Speaker 2: that may violate Catholic doctrine because you and other leaders
Speaker 2: are Catholic, so you're not going to teach something that
Speaker 2: violates your sensibilities.
Speaker 5: That's right, And every troop has the opportunity to create
Speaker 5: programming that specifics to the troops. You got to think, like,
Speaker 5: it's not just Catholic Girl Scouts. They're a Jewish Girl Scouts,
Speaker 5: they're Muslim Girl Scouts. What the Girl Scouts does is
Speaker 5: help us through the Girl Scout programming, you know, fortify
Speaker 5: our faith, so we can pursue anything that is specific
Speaker 5: to the girls that we are working for and the
Speaker 5: troop and what the troop wants to go after. This
Speaker 5: is not something that would ever enter into our troupe
Speaker 5: curriculum or programming. Our programming is really about strength and
Speaker 5: strengthen strengthening these women, these young ladies as the future
Speaker 5: leaders in our community, strong mothers, strong strong women who
Speaker 5: can advocate with themselves and and all of that. It's
Speaker 5: just not something that would ever enter into a programming.
Speaker 5: So to take it away from the girls, to take
Speaker 5: away this opportunity from girls just really struck us in
Speaker 5: the heart because it was something that it's so special
Speaker 5: to us, and specially.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I can't imagine that if you looked at
Speaker 2: the programming, and granted it's a VN diagram, there's going
Speaker 2: to be a lot of overlap. But if you looked
Speaker 2: at the programming for the Girl Scouts of Southern California,
Speaker 2: the Girl Scouts of Portland, Oregon, the Girl Scouts of
Speaker 2: Greater New York City metropolitan area, and compare that to
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Louisville and Indianapolis and Columbus, that it's going
Speaker 2: to differ all that much. I mean, maybe there's differences
Speaker 2: between Cincinnati and Columbus Girl Scouts, but again, those are
Speaker 2: the nuances of where you live and what the community
Speaker 2: values are and that's not going to fly here in
Speaker 2: Southwest Ohio. It never has and so that's what left
Speaker 2: most of us scratching our head. I guess who try
Speaker 2: to analyze us and go, okay, well, what's the endgame here?
Speaker 2: What did Schnerr want? He just seemingly got some advice
Speaker 2: from I guess maybe at the national level and apply
Speaker 2: to to Cincinnati and even sitting down and talking with
Speaker 2: you folks, with you ladies, he wouldn't even listen to that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was. It sounded like up until last
Speaker 2: minute it was a done deal until he was essential
Speaker 2: because of health reasons forced out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It came as a shock to all
Speaker 5: of us, including the Girl Scouts the Western Ohio. To
Speaker 5: my knowledge, they were in conversations and were surprised by
Speaker 5: the announcement as well, and it hit all of our
Speaker 5: group leaders at the same time. So we found out
Speaker 5: as the Girls scot leadership was finding out about it
Speaker 5: as well. But yes, it was. You know, Archbishoptioner is
Speaker 5: now retired for health reasons, as I understand it, and
Speaker 5: we have the new Archbishop, Robert Casey, and he took
Speaker 5: another look at it and realized the good the Girl
Speaker 5: Scouts does for young women across as arch diocees and
Speaker 5: not just young women that you know, women too. There's
Speaker 5: so many wonderful, amazing women who have dedicated their lives
Speaker 5: to Girl Scouts and getting back to the next generation
Speaker 5: of who were coming up, and we were all impacted severely.
Speaker 5: And you know, we talked last year, Scott, I talked
Speaker 5: about how these girls and my own daughter was looking
Speaker 5: at me saying, what did we do wrong? It just
Speaker 5: felt like such an indictment against us personally, that we
Speaker 5: had done something wrong or im moral that was obviously
Speaker 5: not the case. And so now I really feel strongly
Speaker 5: and I'm so thankful and have so much gratitude to
Speaker 5: Archbishop Casey for taking another look at this and realizing
Speaker 5: that we can be Girl Scouts and Catholic at the
Speaker 5: same time and help with the formation of our girls
Speaker 5: in both. In both areas, we can be fully who
Speaker 5: we are and helped to pass along good values, good morals,
Speaker 5: the teachings of the Gospel to these girls through Scouting.
Speaker 2: Jennifer Brady here she is a Westside Troop leader of
Speaker 2: Girl Scouts of Southwestern Ohio and the Catholic Church the
Speaker 2: Archdiocese under the new bishop, the newer Bishop, Anyway, Robert Casey,
Speaker 2: has decided to allow Girl Scouts to continue as they
Speaker 2: have been for now over one hundred years. You can
Speaker 2: see your one hundred year partnership continue, which is a
Speaker 2: wonderful thing. I look through the Memorandum of Understanding the
Speaker 2: MoU as we call it, and what changed.
Speaker 5: I think that there's more guidelines for TRUP leaders and
Speaker 5: pastors now in terms of use of diocese and property.
Speaker 5: True leaders are going to have to and we were anyway,
Speaker 5: we're going to have to demonstrate our care for our
Speaker 5: Catholic faith and morals and making sure that we are
Speaker 5: are upholding those if we already use diosts and property.
Speaker 5: I think it's a good thing. I think this is
Speaker 5: a good thing Scott, because I mean, truth be told,
Speaker 5: I don't know that the church really understood what the
Speaker 5: girls of their parishes were doing or how they were
Speaker 5: interacting outside of school and church. And now they're going
Speaker 5: to take an active look and they're going to be
Speaker 5: paying attention and they're going to see and this is
Speaker 5: truly what was so disheartening about the decision last year
Speaker 5: is I don't nobody at the archdiocese they asked some level,
Speaker 5: had come to a TRUP meeting or asked what we
Speaker 5: were doing, or really understood the programming that we were
Speaker 5: doing for our girls, and now they will. They have
Speaker 5: to and we have to and that dialogue, that interchange
Speaker 5: is so valuable and so important. It gives us a voice,
Speaker 5: It helps us be who we are, It helps us
Speaker 5: be part of the broader church community, and that's huge.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is the archdiocese, who for one
Speaker 2: hundred years welcome Girl Scouts, never really knew what the
Speaker 2: Girl Scouts are doing? Is that more on them? Are you.
Speaker 5: You know? Good question? I think both. Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: we both bear a responsibility for that. I can't say
Speaker 5: I don't know what happened one hundred years ago, but
Speaker 5: at least my time as trup leader, there was not
Speaker 5: a lot of exchange of information at the troop level
Speaker 5: right in terms of what we were doing. But now
Speaker 5: we're going to have to do that, and that's a
Speaker 5: good thing.
Speaker 2: Is it frustrating to think that that Schner not only
Speaker 2: didn't know, but didn't want to know because you offered
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys said, hey, look here's what we do.
Speaker 2: Here's a nope, don't care. You guys are out.
Speaker 5: It is a little frustrating. I mean I did have
Speaker 5: meetings with archdiocese personnel leadership trying to explain what it
Speaker 5: was that we did at the troop level, but by
Speaker 5: then the decision has already been made. I think the
Speaker 5: most frustrating part of it is, you know, a year
Speaker 5: has gone into this, so many women have poured their
Speaker 5: hearts and souls into these conversations and trying to make
Speaker 5: this right and trying to advocate for our girls. And
Speaker 5: truly we're right back where we started. So there's been
Speaker 5: a lot of emotional upheopal and here we are. The
Speaker 5: good that has come out of it is a broader understanding.
Speaker 5: I think of Girl Scout programming in our Catholic parishes
Speaker 5: and I think, like I said before, the archdiocese, parish leadership,
Speaker 5: pastor's priest will be more involved with the formation of
Speaker 5: the girls in other ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's one thing to go, hey, what
Speaker 2: are you guys doing, because we're hearing disturbing things from
Speaker 2: other Girl Scouts facility in other states and areas, what
Speaker 2: are you guys doing specific or But to not even
Speaker 2: listen to what you guys presented to me is abhorrent.
Speaker 2: And at the same time I realized that Archbishop Schner
Speaker 2: had to leave and retire because of medical reasons. Had
Speaker 2: that not occurred, we wouldn't be having this conversation. What
Speaker 2: do you guys, would just simply.
Speaker 5: Be out Yeah, one hundred percent. I truly believe that
Speaker 5: it was ar Cases taking a look at this, understanding
Speaker 5: what our girls needed and that, you know, their formation
Speaker 5: as Catholic women is bigger than just what they can
Speaker 5: learn at school.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And by the way, they're going to be in a
Speaker 5: secular world, They're going to be exposed to things at
Speaker 5: some point in time. It is important that we expose
Speaker 5: them in the bounds of like a comfortable and safe place.
Speaker 5: And I'm not advocating for exposure to DEI, gender identity
Speaker 5: content anything like that, but it's important that we look
Speaker 5: at them as whole people who will be out in
Speaker 5: the world, will not be sheltered by their parish community
Speaker 5: for their entire lives. So Arch Casey took a look
Speaker 5: at that, understood that, and realized that the full formation
Speaker 5: of girls is equally as important as just their spiritual formation,
Speaker 5: and gave us another shot. And I'm I'm just so grateful.
Speaker 2: It feels like a new era in the Archdiocese of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati with Robert Casey. And this is not the first
Speaker 2: good thing I've heard about him and some of the
Speaker 2: decisions he made maybe been a little bit younger and
Speaker 2: open mind and going, hey, you know, we need to
Speaker 2: kick the time, take a look at things as opposed
Speaker 2: to just simply listening to another voice or outside. I
Speaker 2: don't know what Schner was listening to, if anyone seemed
Speaker 2: like his mind was made out about eliminating girl Scouts
Speaker 2: had been around for one hundred years in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 2: you know, as conservative and traditional as we are here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, you know, you start messing with things like
Speaker 2: the girl Scouts. To me, that's up there, scoutings up
Speaker 2: there with like baseball in the American flag in Cony dogs.
Speaker 5: Right, yes, yes, that's why it was such a head
Speaker 5: scratcher when the decision came down. It's like, why why
Speaker 5: take up dismantle with girl Scouts in your in your parishes?
Speaker 5: You know, there's so many other bigger things to fight
Speaker 5: or to advocate for for our community other than girl
Speaker 5: Scouts in troops where we're trusted adults. So, by the way,
Speaker 5: have to go through extensive training for the archdises just
Speaker 5: to volunteer for these for these troops and these positions
Speaker 5: trusted adults are not trusted in that way to take
Speaker 5: care of these girls. And so yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 5: it's it's been a conundrum that we've been wrestling with
Speaker 5: for quite some time. I think Archbishop Casey took another
Speaker 5: look at and said, you know what, we have to
Speaker 5: trust the women of our parish or leading these troops.
Speaker 5: We have to have a little bit more oversight, we
Speaker 5: have to have a little bit better understanding, and they
Speaker 5: have to you know, prove what they're doing with on
Speaker 5: bass and property. That's not a problem for us. I'm
Speaker 5: always been more than open about sharing exactly what it
Speaker 5: is that we're doing. I think it's it's amazing that
Speaker 5: people want to know and want to care about what
Speaker 5: it is that we're teaching girls. But to your point
Speaker 5: about just a change in what's happening in the art
Speaker 5: at the archdiopcy level, I'm so hopeful that Archbishop Casey
Speaker 5: has come in and taking a look at things and said,
Speaker 5: you know what, there's another way to do this. This
Speaker 5: is not an indictment for me on Archbishop Schner, but
Speaker 5: I think that there's always more than one way to
Speaker 5: get things done, and if we can be open minded
Speaker 5: enough and listen to each other enough and more we
Speaker 5: can find a pass forward. And it's even the toughest,
Speaker 5: toughest things that we have to.
Speaker 2: Well, well, that's a tenant of the gospel, is that
Speaker 2: the conversation right and learning from each other, and that
Speaker 2: was completely absent when it came to Archbishop Sneer. Robert
Speaker 2: Casey sounds like a guy wants to sit down and listen.
Speaker 2: And quite honestly, there's been no you guys haven't chance
Speaker 2: to change your policy at all. That's what I look
Speaker 2: at this MoU and go, hey, three years you got
Speaker 2: the deal done, and certainly you know they knowing what
Speaker 2: you're about, and you knowing what they are about, you
Speaker 2: can strike a partnership. But I think that was one
Speaker 2: way street for so long. I don't know why and
Speaker 2: how it got lost in the in the mind of Schner.
Speaker 2: But Robert Casey sounds like a good guy in this
Speaker 2: regard and welcome to the girl scouts back. And I
Speaker 2: think too, if you look at this long brutal summer
Speaker 2: that we had large and a lot of a teen
Speaker 2: violence involved, and a lot of teens doing the wrong
Speaker 2: thing scouting and girls scouting in particular, or something. As
Speaker 2: you mentioned, it creates virtuous, upstanding young women. We need
Speaker 2: more of that, not less.
Speaker 5: Not less, problem solving people who are critical thinkers, people
Speaker 5: who can help to lead their community through you know,
Speaker 5: tough times, all of these things Scouting does. All of
Speaker 5: these things Scouting does, and so yes, we absolutely need
Speaker 5: more of that. And that's what I mean when I
Speaker 5: say it's not just it's religious formation first and foremost,
Speaker 5: the formation of young women into good, upstanding, contributing members
Speaker 5: of society. This is one of those programs that does it,
Speaker 5: you know, and the other thing that this whole situation
Speaker 5: is really done. I do think that there's some positivity
Speaker 5: that's coming out of it. When I share the news
Speaker 5: with my daughter, she was just so proud. The girls
Speaker 5: actually were advocating from themselves.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you know that, but the girls
Speaker 5: were sending letters to the archbishop, you know, coloring pictures
Speaker 5: and saying things like, you know, how important girl Scouts
Speaker 5: lives to them. There was an archdiocese why letter writing campaign.
Speaker 5: And so what we've taught our girls through and through
Speaker 5: all of this is that their voices matter, that they
Speaker 5: can advocate for themselves, that they can ask for more
Speaker 5: and they're not. They truly can't stand up as leaders
Speaker 5: in their community. When I share the news with my daughter,
Speaker 5: she looked at me, up at me, and oh, tears
Speaker 5: in her eyes. This will get emotional. But we did it, mom,
Speaker 5: we did it. And I said, yes, we did. We
Speaker 5: did it as a community of women, faithful women who
Speaker 5: care about the people around us and the community around
Speaker 5: us and making a better day.
Speaker 4: And we did it.
Speaker 7: We're so so happy.
Speaker 2: That has got to be because that's a rare moment
Speaker 2: for parents are to empower your child like that, to say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what, if you fight hard enough for something
Speaker 2: you believe and you can make a difference, you can win,
Speaker 2: you can be you can't win and get what you
Speaker 2: want if you try to do it the right way.
Speaker 2: And I mean that's something is to carry her for
Speaker 2: the rest of her life. That's a that's a core
Speaker 2: tenant that she saw in action. How cool is that?
Speaker 5: Oh, it's amazing. My heart felt with a lot of pride,
Speaker 5: not just for the work that I did, minimal, you know,
Speaker 5: work that I did, but the work that so many
Speaker 5: women the Catholic Committee for GSWO GSWO Leadership, I mean,
Speaker 5: they were the ones at the table having these tough conversations, negotiating, compromising,
Speaker 5: coming up with a pass forward. That's the hard work.
Speaker 5: But our girls, their voices are the reasons why and
Speaker 5: care for them are the reasons why we got to
Speaker 5: see They got to see it at the table to
Speaker 5: make this happen. So yes, it's an amazing opportunity for
Speaker 5: these young girls to see what advocacy and action can
Speaker 5: lead to. I can't tell you how many people Scott
Speaker 5: told me last year, You're not going to change any thing.
Speaker 5: That's impossible. This is what it is. Move on, and
Speaker 5: we didn't. The girls and the women of Girl Scouts
Speaker 5: in the archdiocese didn't move on. We didn't stop to
Speaker 5: continue to advocate for ourselves in the right way, in
Speaker 5: a positive way with this course.
Speaker 2: Jennifer Brady, west Side Troop Leader, congratulations and a victory
Speaker 2: well deserved. All the best to you, Scott, Thank you,
Speaker 2: Take care. Yeah, I hear that I can help, but
Speaker 2: think that you know, God works in mysterious ways, and
Speaker 2: you certainly never want to pray for someone else's demise
Speaker 2: or you know, health or something like that. But the
Speaker 2: timing of Archbishop Schneer getting sick and having to resign
Speaker 2: because of health reasons. It certainly worked out for the
Speaker 2: Girl Scouts in this case because had he not, they
Speaker 2: would be done. And that is it's an abomination not
Speaker 2: to not to sit down at least listen to what
Speaker 2: they have to say. You have all the credit in
Speaker 2: the world to Robert Kaser for being that guy. Time
Speaker 2: out Mortifile Sloany seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 6: Time for your girl too, taking on that trending topics
Speaker 6: on social media, breaking down the latest celebrity in music news.
Speaker 6: Then you off on all local nightline anything else she
Speaker 6: feels like talking about. This is three things with Tiff
Speaker 6: Potter on seven hundred El Jelly.
Speaker 2: What is good to be back? My girl Tiff Potter
Speaker 2: is here from Kissleno seven to one. How about that
Speaker 2: forget how to do this segment that what is to
Speaker 2: be a man? To go through life as a man?
Speaker 8: Your tendant was ruptured for months.
Speaker 7: And you're like, why am I in so much pain?
Speaker 8: And then you go and they're like, we basically need
Speaker 8: to cut this thing off and give you a new leg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a whole new leg right now. It's
Speaker 2: a little Barbie leg too. It's a little weird pretty
Speaker 2: if you're the pink now it's going to be like
Speaker 2: a Barbie leg is the atrophy probably is.
Speaker 8: What the I still cannot get over the fact that
Speaker 8: you went that long with an injury that required that
Speaker 8: much time off.
Speaker 2: Well, right, I know what what does that say about
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow?
Speaker 7: For real? No, for real?
Speaker 2: Three months? My toe I had a ruptured tendon. And
Speaker 2: I'm thirty years older than you are. A son tough
Speaker 2: at that now. Yeah, I had a ruptured tendon to
Speaker 2: my foot. It turned out was I had a little
Speaker 2: bit of foot paint. Been doing that for a couple
Speaker 2: of months. But all good. You want to know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear about how hard is it when
Speaker 2: you women give birth. You guys have for three months
Speaker 2: been on the air for a minute and a half.
Speaker 7: Were not going there.
Speaker 8: I missed you, and I host you to I haven't
Speaker 8: used my computer in so long that it decided right
Speaker 8: now is the time to update, so as I get
Speaker 8: myself organized here a little bit.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're like, I'll give you a
Speaker 2: second to pause, because if you ever have to do
Speaker 2: this and take because like longer than three days it's
Speaker 2: Family Medical Leave Act kicks and then they tapp in
Speaker 2: your sick days that way. So I came back this morning,
Speaker 2: and I should have came come in like three hours earlier,
Speaker 2: because just to log back into email and get back
Speaker 2: like online in this monitor, it's a whole thing. It's
Speaker 2: like a whole thing out on maternity leak. I was
Speaker 2: gone non back.
Speaker 8: So okay, Well, while you were gone, I realized I
Speaker 8: have a tattoo because of one man in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Your tattoo lists up to this point, well, virgin skin.
Speaker 8: The only one I have is because of this one
Speaker 8: man in Cincinnati. Give me a hot second. We'll get there.
Speaker 8: We have things to debrief. Obviously, you saw the Super
Speaker 8: Bowl halftime announcement.
Speaker 2: We have to talk about that.
Speaker 8: Talk about Taylor Swift, the biggest thing on the internet,
Speaker 8: maybe a little Cardi B and maybe one or two
Speaker 8: other things. So I realized this yesterday that I have
Speaker 8: a tattoo, the only one I've ever gotten, and if
Speaker 8: the invisible string theory exists, it has nothing to do
Speaker 8: with romance in my life apparently, and has everything to
Speaker 8: do with the Cincinnati Reds. Okay, after it didn't go
Speaker 8: well for us, last night, but I think we're gonna
Speaker 8: be patient with Tito.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe you got a twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five world champion. Maybe premature.
Speaker 8: No, this happened actually back in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 8: when I turned eighteen, after the Red Sox won the
Speaker 8: World Series, I got a matching tattoo with my best
Speaker 8: friend for the Red Sox.
Speaker 7: Do you know who managed the club at that time?
Speaker 8: Jerry Franco exactly came back around, started managing the Reds,
Speaker 8: took them to the playoffs in.
Speaker 2: Their first year.
Speaker 8: And who knew back when I was eighteen, I'm now
Speaker 8: thirty five. I got a tattoo that would eventually, in
Speaker 8: some weird way.
Speaker 7: Time you back to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, I thought you didn't have to to. I
Speaker 2: thought you said you had not to.
Speaker 8: You just it's on my foot, and I'm not like
Speaker 8: Rick Uchino, where I'll wear a funk sandal in public.
Speaker 2: I think there's a shot I can hear your little
Speaker 2: scooter rolling around in the background. It really does.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, we took the l yesterday a little bummed about that.
Speaker 8: I'm sure a lot of Cincinnatians wear that scar. It
Speaker 8: just keeps us the wound that keeps opening.
Speaker 2: Do you watch lesson last night? I know what's I
Speaker 2: know your schedule. I know you get it to eight now.
Speaker 7: I don't even have cable to watch.
Speaker 2: Oh right.
Speaker 8: What I do love about this, and I know we're
Speaker 8: forward thinking to opening day, is that we open against
Speaker 8: the Red Sox.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that'd be pretty Coqel.
Speaker 2: Twenty six, I think of March believe. Yeah, okay, let's
Speaker 2: talk about it.
Speaker 8: I am excited that Bad Bunny is doing the Super
Speaker 8: Bowl halftime show.
Speaker 2: Per usual, I got it so wrong. Was on your
Speaker 2: list at all?
Speaker 8: Not even not even in the nowhere in the alphabet.
Speaker 2: I have never seen a streak of someone Quite honestly,
Speaker 2: is this young lady here, my good friend Tiff Potter
Speaker 2: is incorrectly guessing who is going to be even the
Speaker 2: shortly give me five artists, not even anywhere near it.
Speaker 2: Bad Bunny would not be on it. No, I didn't
Speaker 2: even think of that.
Speaker 8: I am per usual. Every decision comes with backlash. But overall,
Speaker 8: if you were entertained, not if you liked, but if
Speaker 8: you were entertained by Kendall Lamar in any way, then
Speaker 8: you will most certainly be entertained by Bad Bunny because
Speaker 8: he is just he's good like that. His shows are
Speaker 8: super energetic, so I have a feeling it'll be extremely entertaining.
Speaker 7: Will you understand all of it? No?
Speaker 8: And I thought that was a bold choice by jay Z.
Speaker 8: But you know, so far in the last couple of
Speaker 8: years since he took over, we had Rihanna, Usher Kendrick
Speaker 8: and now bad Money with Apple.
Speaker 2: What is the reaction, Ben you said some of it
Speaker 2: not good. As far as what catalog the fact that
Speaker 2: he's I think it's just do do people know him?
Speaker 8: And will they? Will they know the lyrics? Will they
Speaker 8: know the words? Just about everything he does is in Spanish.
Speaker 2: I did like.
Speaker 8: Puerto Rican So sorry if I forgot to mention that
Speaker 8: here he is after jay Z called him and made
Speaker 8: the announcement. Cool cool, Cool, Still doing the update on
Speaker 8: the computer. I'll work on that. But in the meantime,
Speaker 8: sing it.
Speaker 2: Not quite Other.
Speaker 8: Big things that happened while you were away and is
Speaker 8: kind of bleeding into today. We are just hours away
Speaker 8: from a brand new Taylor Swift album and she is
Speaker 8: putting out her album tonight at midnight. Kiss one oh
Speaker 8: seven one has kind of been your home and your.
Speaker 4: Go to it's.
Speaker 2: It is so annoying the world's number one audio company.
Speaker 2: Just want to point that out. No, this is a
Speaker 2: user era. It has nothing to do with their company.
Speaker 8: It's all because I haven't used this computer since you've
Speaker 8: been gone, and it needed to update four hundred and
Speaker 8: seventy five things right before we went on there.
Speaker 2: Because you know what, it's just easy to throw the
Speaker 2: man under the bus. You take the bullet. I'm taking
Speaker 2: the bullet on this, but it's my fault.
Speaker 8: So album comes out Life of a show Girl tonight
Speaker 8: at midnight if you are a in person person. At
Speaker 8: seven am this morning, we kicked off our partnership with
Speaker 8: Kiss and high Ball Sincy, which is a bar right
Speaker 8: around the corner from Finley Market, we're playing every album
Speaker 8: back to back to back, leading all the way up
Speaker 8: to Life of a show Girl tonight at midnight. If
Speaker 8: you're like not for me, I I don't want to
Speaker 8: be in person. iHeartRadio and Kiss. One oh seven one
Speaker 8: are going to have exclusive content from Taylor. She's taking
Speaker 8: over our radio station tonight and she'll go through the album.
Speaker 2: Track by track. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 8: So I think that this is going to be the
Speaker 8: biggest thing for the next probably week.
Speaker 7: I know it's my super.
Speaker 8: Bowl on my show and my radio station, and so
Speaker 8: therefore it will eventually bleed over to yours well.
Speaker 2: As a position to sit on my ass and soak
Speaker 2: in entertainment, because like I do right now, I will
Speaker 2: say that she has dominated that that sphere for sure,
Speaker 2: at least in my opinion. And I saw a little
Speaker 2: promo for her album where she's dressed as a showgirl
Speaker 2: and comes out over with a poster and like trips
Speaker 2: over them the lamplote, which I thought with Madie giggle
Speaker 2: because I love that self deprecating kind of you know,
Speaker 2: she's really good at that she is, and Life of
Speaker 2: a Showgirl is the title of the album. If I
Speaker 2: forgot to mention, she's dress as a show girl with
Speaker 2: a poster of her and then trips over a thing
Speaker 2: and then yeah.
Speaker 7: Ah my god, this laptop is really bothering me.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I could have prepared a little bit for this.
Speaker 7: We are just coming in real hot.
Speaker 2: I did my bid I'm here.
Speaker 8: Well, those are the bigger pop culture moments outside of that.
Speaker 8: Carti B and Nicki Minaj have really started getting into
Speaker 8: it on the internet. Now for the third day, let
Speaker 8: me give you a little bit of a brief history.
Speaker 8: Cardi B's album Am I the Drama came out last
Speaker 8: Friday because she has been taken over, might have been
Speaker 8: even the Friday before that.
Speaker 7: She's been taking over the last week or two.
Speaker 8: Nicki Minaj and her haven't gotten along in several years.
Speaker 8: And I think it's really because Nicki just likes to
Speaker 8: think that she is the queen of New York, the
Speaker 8: queen of the New York rapt scene. She thinks that
Speaker 8: Cardi B should bow down to her. Cardi B comes along.
Speaker 8: At first they tried to be friends, then things down
Speaker 8: the line ended up shifting, and then really ever since then, Nicki.
Speaker 2: Has had a lot to say about Carti.
Speaker 8: Carti I think has the upper hand in this kind
Speaker 8: of battle at the moment, because Nicki keeps bringing in
Speaker 8: the kids and started saying things on Twitter that I
Speaker 8: probably can can't even read out loud on this radio,
Speaker 8: probably don't want to get fired on our first day
Speaker 8: back together. So it finally got to the point where
Speaker 8: Carti had said, listen, like drop the address, like I'll
Speaker 8: come and show up wherever you are. She also had
Speaker 8: made some pretty bold claims about claims about Nicki on
Speaker 8: potentially having bipolar disorders and being addicted to drugs, And
Speaker 8: the only reason why I think there might be some
Speaker 8: validity to that now, granted, I don't know Nicki Minaj's
Speaker 8: medical history, and I almost feel a little ridiculous talking
Speaker 8: about a rap beef on seven hundred wow, but it
Speaker 8: really is very big on the internet, and you.
Speaker 2: Might scroll past it, and I want to make sure
Speaker 2: you're in the living, big part of hip hop for
Speaker 2: a long time. You have that right.
Speaker 8: There's always beef right, and that's why I'm not surprised
Speaker 8: that her and Nicki go back and forth.
Speaker 2: It is what it is, that's our culture. So the
Speaker 2: only reason I think.
Speaker 8: There might be some validity to the mental health things
Speaker 8: that Carti said about Niki is because sometimes Nicki does
Speaker 8: come off as a little on the like unhinged side,
Speaker 8: like why are we even talking.
Speaker 2: About this right now?
Speaker 8: But again, I'm not naive to think that it isn't
Speaker 8: just all a part of the game, like no press
Speaker 8: is bad press.
Speaker 2: The thing I think it's I think a lot of
Speaker 2: this is pro wrestling. I think a lot of it
Speaker 2: is now I don't know when bullets fly, and that's
Speaker 2: you know that kind that's a different story entirely when
Speaker 2: there's actually, you know, someone dies, different stories.
Speaker 8: I don't think it would come to so Carti is
Speaker 8: gonna be in Sincy one time, but potentially two. So
Speaker 8: her tour comes to heritage in March. And she also
Speaker 8: is dating Stephan Diggs. Now, who does Stephan Diggs play
Speaker 8: for Patriots? Patriots come here on the weekend of Thanksgiving? Yes,
Speaker 8: so we could see maybe Carti could see Cardi here twice.
Speaker 2: Why would she she would come here?
Speaker 8: I think she wants to support Steph on she's pregnant
Speaker 8: with her fourth child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says, so we'll see what comes to that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Shall we check to see if my laptop works.
Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see maybe maybe by Tuesday, we'll see.
Speaker 2: There's all the way is always Tuesday.
Speaker 7: There's always that.
Speaker 8: What I think that those are the big things, Cardi happened.
Speaker 8: I thought of you during the super Bowl halftime announcement.
Speaker 8: Taylor's coming out tonight. I have a tattoo back to
Speaker 8: the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's gonna because I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't you know older like myself. I know,
Speaker 2: I think probably would recognize a couple of the songs,
Speaker 2: but I can't say I'm a bad bunny expert. I
Speaker 2: know he's Puerto Rican, but I wonder how much of
Speaker 2: a backlash there's going to be with that element because
Speaker 2: all those songs are in Spanish. With an American sport
Speaker 2: like football. Now, the NFL has made tremendous ord's trying
Speaker 2: to grow market share by having games in Dublin and
Speaker 2: in London and of course in South America. That's part
Speaker 2: of this. If you found football all, you know this
Speaker 2: can't possibly be surprised as they tried to expand.
Speaker 7: That was my question for you.
Speaker 8: Do you think that this is a little bit more
Speaker 8: of let's say, a power.
Speaker 2: Play by the NFL than it is anything else. I
Speaker 2: turned it off.
Speaker 7: It just keeps updating.
Speaker 2: No, I think they're trying to expand to younger audiences,
Speaker 2: and I think you're older and you're offended by this
Speaker 2: and want to see, you know, I don't know, Bruce
Speaker 2: Springsteen again or something like that. You're probably not going
Speaker 2: anytime soon because the money is in the younger demos,
Speaker 2: it's in gen z R audience. Isn't like even I
Speaker 2: would say, certainly. I don't want to discount you millennials,
Speaker 2: but I think it's about building a base with gen zers.
Speaker 2: And look at the flag football thing. It's interesting. They
Speaker 2: really lean the flag football so they can get more
Speaker 2: younger people, kids, young women to play and get invested
Speaker 2: in the game of football, so they become customers in
Speaker 2: the future. That's what this is all about.
Speaker 8: I think you make a great point. I do want
Speaker 8: to squeeze one or two more things in if we.
Speaker 7: Have the time.
Speaker 2: Do you have the sound for it? The audio?
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 2: Well, let's see.
Speaker 8: Let's see world famous Jane Goodall, Oh yeah, passed away
Speaker 8: yesterday at the age of ninety one.
Speaker 2: That woman was working literally up until her death.
Speaker 8: She was on tour for her book that came out
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty one, and she had passed passed away
Speaker 8: while out on the tour. I guess of natural causes,
Speaker 8: and let's see if this works. Nope, still doesn't work.
Speaker 2: That is one big gorilla.
Speaker 8: She was one of only eight people to be able
Speaker 8: to get a degree or a doctorate without having a
Speaker 8: college degree. And I don't know how that works, but
Speaker 8: I read that this morning the honorary then right, no, no, no,
Speaker 8: this is legitimate, Jeane Girdlea. You just get to skip ahead.
Speaker 2: You don't have to take biology one oh one, you
Speaker 2: don't have to take intro to psychology.
Speaker 8: I think it's because the woman literally lived in the
Speaker 8: woods with the monkeys on her own. I had seen
Speaker 8: a little bit of her documentary on Hulu. I recommend it.
Speaker 8: I don't think I ever finished it, but I remember
Speaker 8: being super intrigued by it. The woman was out in
Speaker 8: the jungle on her own when she was in her twenties.
Speaker 2: Didn't get her head ripped off or nothing. So some
Speaker 2: of these people are like, oh, they're just like us,
Speaker 2: wind up dying horrific death because the animals don't think
Speaker 2: that we're like them. They think they'll Loogan eventually go,
Speaker 2: you know what, this guy's pissing me off. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: eat them, Jane, any primate, right, she really became one
Speaker 2: of the chimpanzees, and I think her research want it
Speaker 2: was known for just understanding them and then stopping the
Speaker 2: use of the of chimpanzees for science, for entertainment and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Ninety one though, that's a good long
Speaker 2: life for someone who's but good. And there's somebody to
Speaker 2: be said about that too. Is we age? And you
Speaker 2: know when you retire and quit, there's some people at
Speaker 2: work and they just that's ther whole purpose in life,
Speaker 2: and they just keep on going. She's one of those.
Speaker 7: Yeah good.
Speaker 8: I have never felt like a segment dragged on for
Speaker 8: so long in my life.
Speaker 2: And keep waiting for your computer to wow.
Speaker 7: Like, I can't believe it.
Speaker 8: We've gone three weeks without talking, and I'm like, how
Speaker 8: do I do this job?
Speaker 2: What's the wrong with that? Between my foot and your
Speaker 2: mystery tattoo?
Speaker 8: Oh my god, wait until you hear I'm about to
Speaker 8: book a forty five hundred dollars flight for someone that
Speaker 8: I'm dating four thousand.
Speaker 2: I was going to think that the tattoo would have
Speaker 2: been of this person, not Oh come on, you know me.
Speaker 2: I know you, so you get but sometimes you get
Speaker 2: invested in something and you push all those chips in
Speaker 2: the middle of the table. You know, don't read the room.
Speaker 2: We commit, we go hard. Don't read the room. She's
Speaker 2: Tip Potter kiss one of seven one mornings, and she
Speaker 2: pops in Tuesday Thursdays with three things at the top
Speaker 2: of thet all right, appreciate you. Good to be back
Speaker 2: when you get a news update in and when we return.
Speaker 2: Speaking of those red legs, what's next after there? Should
Speaker 2: I don't think stunning is the right word. I would
Speaker 2: say the sobering wake up call of what big payroll
Speaker 2: teams are going to do to you doesn't mean you
Speaker 2: can't get it done. Look at the Milwaukee Brewers, but
Speaker 2: Red's got some work to do. The offseason chat with
Speaker 2: Jeff Cup from Lockdown. Reds just ahead on seven hundred WW.
Speaker 2: Since then, do you want to slow me back on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WW? That's what I said back on seven
Speaker 2: hundred W dow Barring some ankle surgery, severed ten completely
Speaker 2: ruptured tendon that I'm dealing with, but you know what,
Speaker 2: that can be repaired. That can be Can the Reds
Speaker 2: be repaired? That's the question now. Sunday we had champagne.
Speaker 2: The hangover lasted till Wednesday, then sobriety hit last night.
Speaker 2: He looked in the mirror and go, what the hell
Speaker 2: did I do when I was drinking champagne? Eight to
Speaker 2: four last night the final despite two early runs, they
Speaker 2: couldn't compete. The Cockerroaches have been exterminated outscore eighteen to nine,
Speaker 2: and the longest drought in professional sports continues. The agony
Speaker 2: of the Reds not advancing is going to be known
Speaker 2: at least another year on it As our buddy from Lockdown,
Speaker 2: Red's the only daily Reds podcast, that'd be Jeff Carr.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have a lot to talk about in the
Speaker 2: offseason starting today, Jeffrey, Welcome, Hi you Ben Sony. It's
Speaker 2: been a wild ride.
Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, it felt like celebration turned to reality far,
Speaker 4: far too quick. But that's been the reality of Red's
Speaker 4: postseason baseball in the recent history.
Speaker 2: I know I'll be a little bit more optimistic probably here.
Speaker 2: I know that you look around the wrestling game and
Speaker 2: watching day baseball on the IR as I was watching
Speaker 2: Detroit in Cleveland. They're going to play a game three today.
Speaker 2: San Diego's at Chicago and the Cubbies. Hopefully we're gon
Speaker 2: limit the Cubbies here San Diego and then Boston. New
Speaker 2: York was great game last night and he thought, well,
Speaker 2: can they go four for four? Can all four wild
Speaker 2: card games advanced to a pivotal Game three? And the
Speaker 2: answer was no. The Reds let us down. If any
Speaker 2: of those teams they'll face the Dodgers instead of US.
Speaker 2: I think that the Dodgers probably beat a lot of
Speaker 2: those teams, if not almost all those teams saved maybe
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe New York or Boston. I think
Speaker 2: they could beat Cleveland. I think they could be Detroit.
Speaker 2: I think they could probably beat Chicago. It just happens
Speaker 2: we drew the Dodgers. That starting pitching is going to
Speaker 2: be so hard for anybody to be there. I mean,
Speaker 2: the way that Yamamoto and Blake Snell were both dealing,
Speaker 2: didn't feel like there was a whole lot of lineups
Speaker 2: that could really hang with them. It's just the pitching
Speaker 2: side of things for the Reds ended up letting them down,
Speaker 2: which was the big twist that we were all not expecting.
Speaker 4: In this story.
Speaker 2: But I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I think the Dodgers pitching really was the impressive part
Speaker 4: of this. Their lineup did what we all expected it today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and they absolutely mowed him down. And then
Speaker 2: you look at the Dodgers and you watch how they played,
Speaker 2: going all, how the hell could they be in the
Speaker 2: wild the wild guard? How is that possible?
Speaker 4: There's a reason, especially they're in the wildcard, right, right,
Speaker 4: It's just I mean, Philly and Milwaukee had great seasons.
Speaker 4: It's interesting because going into the year, the Dodgers over
Speaker 4: under win total was at one hundred and three and
Speaker 4: a half, so based on that, they really underachieved at
Speaker 4: ninety three. But boy, ninety three looks a lot better
Speaker 4: than eighty three if you're looking from the Reds point
Speaker 4: of view.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. The criticism was fast and furious, and
Speaker 2: that started with Tel getting the start. They worked Lodola
Speaker 2: out of the pen. I don't think he had like
Speaker 2: a dozen pitches maybe, And the question mark is, well,
Speaker 2: why are we saving Andrew Abbott for today? There is
Speaker 2: no today?
Speaker 4: Right, I mean I didn't understand. I know that there
Speaker 4: was a little bit of a discussion about short rest
Speaker 4: and things like that, but in a short playoff series.
Speaker 4: We talked many times this year about the fact that
Speaker 4: with Green, Lodolo and Abbot you feel really confident going
Speaker 4: up against anybody. Well, in this series Green got was
Speaker 4: tipping pitches or something like that and got a little
Speaker 4: bit blinded by the like Nickelodolo threw fourteen total pitches
Speaker 4: and Andrew Rabbit threw zero of them. Those are the
Speaker 4: three guys that you were expecting to be a huge
Speaker 4: reason why the Reds could compete with anybody, and quite frankly,
Speaker 4: they were three of the least important players in this series,
Speaker 4: or at least you know, Green was one of the
Speaker 4: most important as far as negatively, and then Nickelodolo and
Speaker 4: Andrew Rabbit were next to Superpluis.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you don't know what you're getting on Lego.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was as shocked as anybody that Hunter
Speaker 2: Green had the outing that he did in Game one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he turned back the clock, but not in a
Speaker 4: great way. And I think it was immediately whenever he
Speaker 4: gave up the home run to Otani, he stopped being
Speaker 4: a pitcher and he went back to being a thrower.
Speaker 4: And I think that's probably why, you know, Busseroni was
Speaker 4: talking about he was tipping his pitches and all the
Speaker 4: other stuff. But quite frankly, us Reds fans know what
Speaker 4: Hunter Green looks like when he's pitching versus what he's
Speaker 4: looks like when he's throwing. I mean, he wasn't able
Speaker 4: to use the splitter. He tried to throw it a
Speaker 4: couple of times, and he spiked it in the ground
Speaker 4: and his slider was not landing for strikes. It was
Speaker 4: starting on the plate and breaking off the plate, so
Speaker 4: Dodger sitters knew they could lay off of it. And
Speaker 4: then whenever he would go to throw his fastball, it
Speaker 4: just caught way too much of the plate. And so
Speaker 4: that was watching old Hunter Green pitch again. I think
Speaker 4: part of it was it's like, man, this is his
Speaker 4: first playoff start, and then they add all of this
Speaker 4: other stuff onto it. Oh, you know, hometown kid. He's
Speaker 4: coming back home faced the team he watched growing up,
Speaker 4: and all this other stuff, and I think just everything
Speaker 4: just caught up to him the moment that show Heyo
Speaker 4: Tani hit that ball to the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunter Green was obviously a lock in Game one,
Speaker 2: but Lodolo come out of the pen for a limited appearance,
Speaker 2: and then Abbott waited till today. He was going to
Speaker 2: throw him today and there was no today. There's only yesterday.
Speaker 2: Did Tito explain that zach ly telstar.
Speaker 4: I didn't hear like specifically. I think they cited the
Speaker 4: short rest for Andrew Rabbit, but I didn't hear like
Speaker 4: specifically why it was the Tel But I just find
Speaker 4: it so weird funny, especially the short outing for Nickolodolo. Okay,
Speaker 4: if he throws in relief on Sunday and you want
Speaker 4: to keep him in that role for some reason, fine,
Speaker 4: but throw him for at least two any at least
Speaker 4: two or three innies. He could totally do that.
Speaker 2: All right. So the Reds limp home and a lot
Speaker 2: of soul searching can be done the offseason. And for
Speaker 2: those who are like, okay, well here we go again.
Speaker 2: You know, Burrow goes down in the injury, the Bengals
Speaker 2: are done. How many days till opening day? The Reds
Speaker 2: disappointed they get the only team in the wild card.
Speaker 2: He gets swept as our Cincinnati Reds. The misery continues
Speaker 2: for another year. Haven't even tasted the postseason. Postseason success
Speaker 2: at this point. Keep in mind, and you mentioned Hunter Green,
Speaker 2: very young roster, A lot of guys have not seen
Speaker 2: postseason play, and a lot of those guys, wilted I
Speaker 2: thought it was surprising to show that contrast, as a
Speaker 2: guy like Hunter Green thought, man, he's gonna go out
Speaker 2: there and just dominate. He did not, could barely get
Speaker 2: out of the first inning. It is a guy in
Speaker 2: Matt McClain whose defense has been spectacular all season. His
Speaker 2: bat has been absent for most of the season, been
Speaker 2: terrible at the plate. Had it not been for his glove,
Speaker 2: he would have been sent back down, I would think,
Speaker 2: or at least at least benched at the very least.
Speaker 2: And yet he comes out and he smokes a double.
Speaker 2: When is the last time he got a hit, let
Speaker 2: alone a double. He played pretty well, So you know,
Speaker 2: it's about getting those experience, those moments of experience, I
Speaker 2: think in the postseason, Jeff, and then of course we'll
Speaker 2: talk about this in a minute, that's him adding some pieces.
Speaker 2: But the I think the youngness of this team, the
Speaker 2: youth of this club really showed up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's anything that I can glean from the
Speaker 4: fact that they just kind of.
Speaker 2: Got dog walked by the Dodgers.
Speaker 4: That now they can at least draw from this experience.
Speaker 4: They showed up and they did the thing. You know,
Speaker 4: everybody was saying they don't believe in him and all
Speaker 4: this other stuff, and they showed why nobody believed them
Speaker 4: because they got ran over by the Dodgers. And I
Speaker 4: think that that's actually going to be a positive. They're
Speaker 4: going to get to a point next year where maybe
Speaker 4: they hit some struggles and they can draw back on
Speaker 4: this season where you know, the whole cockroaches thing, which
Speaker 4: quite frankly, I'm kind of glad that's done.
Speaker 2: Let's do something else next year. I don't love that Moniker.
Speaker 6: But I get it.
Speaker 2: I understand it's thirty. It's dirty, I suppose, but okay,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it took the Mets to screw
Speaker 2: things up for you to get in. It's not like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know what's in Milwaukee. But it's not like Milwaukee
Speaker 2: is playing all their starters anyway. They're resting up for
Speaker 2: a long playoff run. So you know, way, whatever helps
Speaker 2: you get up the next day and get motivated, that's fine, right.
Speaker 4: But the good news is they can draw on this
Speaker 4: experience for next year, and because they know that playoffs
Speaker 4: baseball sounds different. But you know, once you get into
Speaker 4: inning two, inning three, inning four, there's still three outs,
Speaker 4: there's still three strikes, there's still four balls, and there's
Speaker 4: still twenty seven ounces. You got to get on the opponent.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, it's the same
Speaker 4: baseball game you've been playing all your life. And I
Speaker 4: think that that, more than anything, is going to be
Speaker 4: such a huge, a huge lesson for this team moving
Speaker 4: into an offseason that you know, they should be full
Speaker 4: of lessons based on what's happened this year and different
Speaker 4: things that they need to answer before twenty twenty six
Speaker 4: gets going.
Speaker 2: All right, how much of this then is going to
Speaker 2: be turned towards the front office and this offseason Terry Francona,
Speaker 2: despite the criticism about Zach Lettel, despite some of the
Speaker 2: criticisms done, like, as a Hall of Fame manager, you
Speaker 2: can't get better than Terry Francona. He got you to
Speaker 2: the postseason, something the Reds haven't tasted a long time.
Speaker 2: At the same time, now the front office has to
Speaker 2: give an ownership has to give Terry Francona something to
Speaker 2: play with. You know, a lot is made about payrolls,
Speaker 2: and we've always heard about is a three hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty million dollar Dodger payroll, Dodger payroll, this huge Dodger peril. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: they're also a wildcard team. So how much of the
Speaker 2: cry about payroll disparity and that we're among the lowest
Speaker 2: MLBA is really relevant in this case? How much of
Speaker 2: that do you weigh on payroll?
Speaker 4: This loss I don't put as much as other people do.
Speaker 4: I mean, think about it too, like the Mets actually
Speaker 4: technically had a bigger payroll than the Dodgers did, and
Speaker 4: they collapsed entirely and didn't make the playoffs. So I
Speaker 4: don't think it is, as you know, one for one,
Speaker 4: indicative of success, but I certainly think it would help.
Speaker 4: At the same point, there were different I saw a
Speaker 4: post that had to do with peers of payroll, and
Speaker 4: the Reds are in the bottom tier, and they've been
Speaker 4: in the bottom tier for a long time. It just
Speaker 4: feels like if they put a little bit more, not
Speaker 4: saying they got to put one hundred and fifty million
Speaker 4: dollars more, but like just a little bit more, maybe
Speaker 4: twenty thirty million more into the payroll than what they
Speaker 4: did this past year, then they will get everything that
Speaker 4: they need. And I mean, you're talking about twenty four
Speaker 4: million coming off the books for Nick Martinez. You're talking
Speaker 4: about a couple of million more for some of the
Speaker 4: other guys that'll be leaving via free agency from the bullpen.
Speaker 4: Obviously those guys need to be replaced, but it feels
Speaker 4: like they're going to have somewhere between thirty and thirty
Speaker 4: five million from what they spent this year to spend
Speaker 4: on free agents and arbitration contracts, and so if they
Speaker 4: add a little bit more to that, they could really
Speaker 4: go for something here, including you know everyone's favorite son
Speaker 4: from Middletown, Kylee Shwarber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's a college Swarber there. On the other
Speaker 2: high side, a lot was put on someone like Ellie
Speaker 2: de la Cruz. I mean, we heard the story last
Speaker 2: night about Rick Stowe giving him number forty four because
Speaker 2: you run out of Eric Davis. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: I saw Eric Davis as his prime and you did too.
Speaker 2: Ellie da la Cruz is not quite Eric Davis yet.
Speaker 4: No he's not. And that was the other part of
Speaker 4: this Dodgers series that surprised me because it looked like
Speaker 4: down the stretch he was getting the second wind. That
Speaker 4: looked as if he was ready for the big for
Speaker 4: the big stage here again. And we've seen him play
Speaker 4: very well against the Dodgers, but the Dodgers have completely
Speaker 4: shut him down this year. And then the two game
Speaker 4: Wildcard series, really, I mean, he was a non factor.
Speaker 4: He was on base a couple of times in the
Speaker 4: first game by a walk and then he had a
Speaker 4: fielders choice that got an rv I. But that's it.
Speaker 4: Like there was no impactful moment for Elie de la Cruz,
Speaker 4: especially there in Game two where he comes up in
Speaker 4: the sixth thenning with the bases loaded, and it feels
Speaker 4: like this is a moment where he can make a
Speaker 4: name for himself, and he struck out, and I think
Speaker 4: that there's definitely a lot that he can glean. He's
Speaker 4: still very early on in his career, but yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: I mean he's not there yet. He still remains a
Speaker 4: bunch of potential rather than approven product.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a number of young guys in this roster
Speaker 2: that that pop out at you, going, well, there's a
Speaker 2: guy to build round one of those guys. I've been
Speaker 2: joined to watch the season of Sales Stewart, and I
Speaker 2: know he took it hard. He took it on himself,
Speaker 2: saying we lost that game because of my errand throw.
Speaker 2: But keep in mind he got up in a couple
Speaker 2: of clutch hits for that matter, and some just smart
Speaker 2: baseball plays. I like Sales Stewart a lot, and I
Speaker 2: look at him and go, Okay, there's a guy that's
Speaker 2: going to be a cornerstone for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like there might be a dozen things
Speaker 4: that open on the list before I get to South
Speaker 4: Stewart for that game last night. I do really like
Speaker 4: what he brings to the table. He's got so much
Speaker 4: confidence when he steps into the box. I mean, you
Speaker 4: saw it. Yamamoto was just mowing people down, but every
Speaker 4: time salth Stewart stepped in it was very good at back.
Speaker 4: It did strike out once, but a couple of very
Speaker 4: impactful hits in this game. And I really like what
Speaker 4: sal brings to this team. I mean, he got caught
Speaker 4: up in the beginning of September and he provided a
Speaker 4: couple of homers for him down the stretch. Didn't look like,
Speaker 4: you know, oh hey kid, welcome to the big leagues.
Speaker 4: By the way, we're in a pennant race, and don't
Speaker 4: mess anything up here. And he didn't. He looked fantastic,
Speaker 4: and he's got a great personality to root for too.
Speaker 4: I just I really hope that they commit to one
Speaker 4: position with him, because they keep doing this thing where,
Speaker 4: you know, so they get somebody on the roster and
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, well he could play anything. It's like, well,
Speaker 4: give him, give him a position, and I feel like
Speaker 4: he looked good at first. He's looked good at third
Speaker 4: base in his minor league career as well. There's gonna
Speaker 4: be so many options open to this front office this
Speaker 4: off season because of guys like South Stewart, but they've
Speaker 4: really got to make sure that they have a plane
Speaker 4: in place next year and not this current roster that
Speaker 4: feels like it has a whole bunch of square pegs
Speaker 4: for square holes. But there's only so many holes you
Speaker 4: can fill, and they've got far too many pegs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Sales Stewart also because he looks like
Speaker 2: a lot like a young Al Capone. He's Jeff Carr
Speaker 2: with locked on Reds this morning, wrapping up the red
Speaker 2: season and not ending the way we hoped or wanted.
Speaker 2: But the reality is you got bum rushed by the
Speaker 2: La Dodgers, who are a much much better team than
Speaker 2: their position, and seating would lead you to believior just
Speaker 2: to look off the street. But I think the Dodgers
Speaker 2: are gonna they may have a good chance of going
Speaker 2: from a wild card to World Series back to back
Speaker 2: champions because they look that damn good. They just continue
Speaker 2: to come at you with play after play after player,
Speaker 2: and you know that too. Nothing lead that they had
Speaker 2: last night early like that, Well, they're going to have
Speaker 2: to probably quadruple that if they got a chance down
Speaker 2: the stretch, they did not, And long about after what
Speaker 2: the fourth or fifth inning, they started having to play
Speaker 2: from behind, and that's not a good when you're in
Speaker 2: the position the Cincinnati Reds are, but got to the postseason.
Speaker 2: The goal next season is going to go much much
Speaker 2: deeper in the playoffs. And how much of that is
Speaker 2: retaining some of the core guys you mentioned We're gonna
Speaker 2: lose some guys in free agency, which all teams do,
Speaker 2: but also what they add, what do you think happens
Speaker 2: in the next what four and a half five months here?
Speaker 4: I think it really depends on how concrete a position
Speaker 4: they believe. Elie de la Cruz has a shortstop, If
Speaker 4: they're going to move him to the outfield or something
Speaker 4: like that, that would open up more opportunities for enfielders.
Speaker 4: But it feels like this team is full of infielders
Speaker 4: and they've tried to move some to the outfield and
Speaker 4: it just doesn't necessarily work. And they don't have a
Speaker 4: whole lot of outfielders right now, Like Austin Hayes has
Speaker 4: a mutual option. I'm not sure how that one's going
Speaker 4: to go because the season has been sort of up
Speaker 4: and down for Austin Hey. There's a lot of injuries,
Speaker 4: some production, but none of it's super consistent, and I
Speaker 4: don't think that the Reds are going to pick up
Speaker 4: the mutual side of that option. Then you have Miguel
Speaker 4: Andrewharr who came over here from the A's and he's
Speaker 4: played the outfield a lot in his career. It's just
Speaker 4: he had a leg injury that was limiting him to
Speaker 4: DH only and so is he going to get healthy
Speaker 4: in this offseason? Do you commit to him playing in
Speaker 4: the outfield for a little bit, maybe give him a
Speaker 4: one year proven deal or something like that. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of interesting options that they currently have in the house.
Speaker 4: But I also would really and the goal for me
Speaker 4: for Nick Crawl because there is you mentioned this early
Speaker 4: on when we started talking like how much pressure shifts
Speaker 4: to the front office. This has to be the most
Speaker 4: pressure packed off season for Nick Crawl because they just
Speaker 4: showed that they could do this with the roster that
Speaker 4: they got, but they don't have enough to go much
Speaker 4: further than where they got, and they've got to get
Speaker 4: some help. I think that the first thing he's got
Speaker 4: to look at is somebody who can be an anchor
Speaker 4: for this lineup. There was nobody in this lineup at
Speaker 4: any point this season that was a consistent like when
Speaker 4: we need a hit, he's going to give it to us,
Speaker 4: and when we need an RBI, he's going to give
Speaker 4: it to us. They've got to go find that guy,
Speaker 4: whether he's an outfielder or a d H or whatever
Speaker 4: he might be, or whether his name rhymes with Blorber.
Speaker 4: I think that that was a Borber, But you know,
Speaker 4: whether that is the option or not, he's got to
Speaker 4: figure that out because there's definitely some boopen needs that
Speaker 4: he has, and you could argue that there's definitely some
Speaker 4: needs there on the bench as well. What is Will
Speaker 4: Benson to this team?
Speaker 2: Is scie?
Speaker 4: Are we going to run it back with Santiagos?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: Please don't? I really don't want that to be the
Speaker 4: answer is yes. But there's so many different answers that
Speaker 4: Nick Call needs to give. But the first one is
Speaker 4: who's anchoring this lineup next year?
Speaker 2: It's a good question. We'll pick it up again. In
Speaker 2: just a few months. Jeff Carr always enjoyed our chats
Speaker 2: on Monday, kind of recap in the weekend, look at
Speaker 2: a week aheads, and hopefully we'll both be around in
Speaker 2: a few months to be able to do that, Jeff
Speaker 2: Carr Lockdown ORIDGS only Daily Reads podcast, are gonna have
Speaker 2: a lot to talk about in the next four or
Speaker 2: five months, for sure, before things start ramping up out
Speaker 2: a goodyear and then the twenty twenty sixth version of
Speaker 2: this team comes to fruition, and I think we have
Speaker 2: reason to be optimistic and excited. Provide to the front office,
Speaker 2: get some critical pieces in there. Jeff, have a great offseason,
Speaker 2: all the best. I've been appreciating you all these.
Speaker 4: Months, Bunby, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Go right, all right, let's get a time out in
Speaker 2: Sloaney back on seven hundred. The Reds are dead, but
Speaker 2: I'm alive, apparently barely. Some healthish look get into that
Speaker 2: coming up too, and how about some news first though,
Speaker 2: I'm seven hundred.
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Speaker 1: It's realistic.
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Speaker 2: into the regular groove. Here we go. What's going on?
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 7: We've just spent the last three weeks together. I have
Speaker 7: nothing more.
Speaker 2: Two weeks in two three days. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: so yeah, hey, you know what, it'll be your turn
Speaker 2: at some point. Of course, of course, then I got
Speaker 2: to cart your ass around.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well we have it is. We have another three
Speaker 7: weeks of non weight bearing.
Speaker 2: So anyway, long story short, and it's good to be back.
Speaker 2: I said's great to be out of the house as
Speaker 2: someone that used to sitting around as long as I've
Speaker 2: been sitting around. Went in for some ankle surgery. Had
Speaker 2: a bone that was rubbing on a tendon in my
Speaker 2: right foot, and it turned out that I've been walking
Speaker 2: around all summer on a severed tendon. And that was
Speaker 2: the first news the surgeon told me when I got out.
Speaker 2: She said, yeah, you severed your tendon completely. Oh okay, so.
Speaker 7: It was a lot worse thanur.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, she's in her while sew and everything back
Speaker 2: together and sewing it to another tendon and stuff.
Speaker 7: So anyway, yeah, I was sitting in the waiting room.
Speaker 7: It was supposed to be an hour surgery. After ninety minutes,
Speaker 7: here we go. I'm like, okay, there's it wasn't really worried, No,
Speaker 7: I mean it was worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, as I said, you don't people like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it must be terrible. Look, there's people
Speaker 2: with far worse stuff in the world, and I've seen
Speaker 2: it firsthand, family friends, close friends that and God bless
Speaker 2: you if you're going through that now. So what I
Speaker 2: had can be fixed. There's a lot of people who
Speaker 2: don't have a remedy for that. So more prayers to
Speaker 2: you than to me. So and when the doctor, I'm lucky,
Speaker 2: I can get this fixed.
Speaker 7: She just she when I met with the doctor before
Speaker 7: you were out of anesthesia and everything, she just she
Speaker 7: just put her head down and shook her head with
Speaker 7: her hand on her head, going, oh my gosh. It
Speaker 7: was a mess when I got in there.
Speaker 2: Mess.
Speaker 7: It was an absolute mess. Two inches of the tender.
Speaker 2: She said, you didn't do feel any pain? What's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, hurt a little bit. She goes well with
Speaker 2: a rete, it should have been a lot more painful than.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and your bone spur was three centimeters. I was
Speaker 7: looking on my hand trying to figure out what three
Speaker 7: centimeters looks like.
Speaker 2: I don't roll into the doctor until it's fallen off
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 4: What you are?
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly right?
Speaker 2: All right? So yeah, my wife Michelle's driving me around,
Speaker 2: which is so because she likes to sleep in until
Speaker 2: the ungodly hour like seven am. I know, and I'm
Speaker 2: in much older than that, so God bless you. She's
Speaker 2: going to be driving a.
Speaker 7: Knee scooter.
Speaker 2: Scooter's all good, so he's pretty fast on that. Doctor
Speaker 2: Samantha Baker at christ she's great. Yeah, I it was awesome.
Speaker 2: What's going on in the world of real estate? Although
Speaker 2: I suppose we should talk more healthcare related stuff at
Speaker 2: this point. I know the government should down. Is that
Speaker 2: affecting things at all?
Speaker 7: It is? Yeah, absolutely, it's going to slow things down,
Speaker 7: and depending on how long the government shut down lasts,
Speaker 7: the impact on real estate could certainly take a while.
Speaker 7: It's going to delay some transactions, so if you're planning
Speaker 7: to close in the next two weeks, it may be delayed.
Speaker 7: So we're going to have to have a lot of patients.
Speaker 7: If you're a buyer, if you're a seller, if you
Speaker 7: have plans to move, if you have movers scheduled, it
Speaker 7: may be completely out of your hands. If you're waiting
Speaker 7: on some federal funding. That would be your government backed loans.
Speaker 7: Federal Housing Administration, the FAHA loans, the VA loans, USDA
Speaker 7: loans are all vulnerable for being slowed down during this process.
Speaker 2: Not stop, but slowed, just.
Speaker 7: Slowed because they're taking about half of the employees and
Speaker 7: they're furloughing them, got it, so the other half will
Speaker 7: be doing double duty. And so eventually, eventually it will close,
Speaker 7: the paperwork will go through. But yeah, it's it's going
Speaker 7: to take a minute. And I think that everybody's just
Speaker 7: got to be aware.
Speaker 2: It's just enough to make it so inconvenient. It upsets
Speaker 2: you about the government showdown for the now. If you're
Speaker 2: going through it, it's you know, life and death, because
Speaker 2: if you think about when we just bought a house, right, okay,
Speaker 2: so you have to sell your house to buy the
Speaker 2: new house, and then that person's buying a house, and
Speaker 2: if one person in that chain has an FHA or
Speaker 2: VA long or something like that, then that could come
Speaker 2: everything up and screw things up just enough to slow
Speaker 2: it down to a point where you're losing a lot
Speaker 2: of sleep over it, which is exactly what they wanted.
Speaker 2: I was pointing out the first half of the show.
Speaker 2: But you know, the war of the government shutdown and
Speaker 2: who's really the blame here, And the fact of the
Speaker 2: matter is it's politics, right, So roughly you think it's
Speaker 2: a lot more. But for total federal spending, only eight
Speaker 2: percent of the government to shut down and what they
Speaker 2: call non essential role, so ninety two percent of the
Speaker 2: government according to Democrats and Republicans who are empower may
Speaker 2: I point out think that ninety two percent of governments
Speaker 2: essential what gets shut down museums, national parks, the FHA,
Speaker 2: loans get slowed down, all that stuff. To make you squeeze.
Speaker 2: You know, it's still going on though, But the Army,
Speaker 2: the Navy Air Force game on Saturday, just.
Speaker 1: To show you, like, well, you know what we want
Speaker 1: people to be, we don't want to be. You want
Speaker 1: to get people upset, start cutting the Medicare and Social
Speaker 1: Security payments. But they will do it because this is politics,
Speaker 1: it's not reality.
Speaker 7: There are a lot of employees who have to there.
Speaker 7: Essential employees have to report to work, but they're not
Speaker 7: going to be getting a paycheck until all this is over.
Speaker 7: Now they will get back paid. Don't get the back pay.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go that long. It never does. But
Speaker 2: how many longest one we had was twenty eight days
Speaker 2: or something, and that's when people started to feel the pain.
Speaker 2: You get paid every two weeks, and that's what happens.
Speaker 2: So you really wanted to knock the stuff off. You
Speaker 2: know what you do is you just wouldn't pay these
Speaker 2: bums in Congress, the executive branch, the judiciary, and the
Speaker 2: legislative branch is simply cut their benefits off and see
Speaker 2: how they like.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't have any shutdowns.
Speaker 7: When we go back to the real estate issues, if
Speaker 7: you are a government employee and you're in the process
Speaker 7: of buying a home and you don't have any income
Speaker 7: coming in, there's a good chance that that loan can't
Speaker 7: close until your money is you know, until you get
Speaker 7: all of your money.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 7: Of course, there are ways to get around it, because
Speaker 7: we know that eventually you'll get paid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But and.
Speaker 7: Then the government employees are very concerned about being able
Speaker 7: to make their mortgage. And if you're in that vote
Speaker 7: and you don't know if you're going to be able
Speaker 7: to make your mortgage, if it does last for that
Speaker 7: long a thirty days or more, you may ask for
Speaker 7: an extension. I think most lenders are going to They're
Speaker 7: going to understand the situation, and as long as you've
Speaker 7: been doing a really good job of making your payments
Speaker 7: on time, you should be fine. But overall, it's it's
Speaker 7: gonna slow down. We don't need any more slow downs
Speaker 7: in the real estate industry right now. We just don't
Speaker 7: need it. Because interest rates have been so high, they're
Speaker 7: starting to come down. They're supposed to come down even further.
Speaker 7: Everybody there. It's interesting because I keep hearing this recurring
Speaker 7: buyers saying, I think the interest rates are going to
Speaker 7: come down to three.
Speaker 2: Persons, So people wait to go wait, come back.
Speaker 7: And you know, there's I absolutely believe that if you
Speaker 7: can afford to go ahead and buy, knowing all of
Speaker 7: this and having all of the information, go ahead and
Speaker 7: move forward if you can. And there are a lot
Speaker 7: of sellers out there right now who have been on
Speaker 7: the market for two, three, four, five weeks, and those
Speaker 7: sellers are starting to get a little nervous, a little
Speaker 7: bit antsy, they are more willing to negotiate. So now,
Speaker 7: as a buyer, there are opportunities that you have not
Speaker 7: had for years. For years, it's been a seller's market.
Speaker 7: Now the market is kind of it's moving in a
Speaker 7: direction that it's more of an even playing field, and
Speaker 7: buyers have opportunities. Buyers have opportunities. Now, I'm never going
Speaker 7: to tell a buyer to go in and do that
Speaker 7: low ball thing go down like twenty thirty forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 7: You're only going to make the seller really mad, and
Speaker 7: you're not being realistic. Let's be realistic. I know everybody's
Speaker 7: looks for a deal, but I personally think that there
Speaker 7: are opportunities. There are always opportunities in any situation. You know,
Speaker 7: when the stock market goes one way or another, there's opportunities.
Speaker 7: Same thing with real estate. This shutdown of the government
Speaker 7: could provide some opportunities for some people. It can also
Speaker 7: provide a lot of.
Speaker 2: But it isn't a big problem.
Speaker 7: Still inventory though we have inventory, We do have some inventory.
Speaker 2: Last week you said we had no inventory. Now this
Speaker 2: week we got inventory.
Speaker 7: What do you mean we haven't talked about real estate
Speaker 7: for three weeks.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, it's three weeks later. What happened? What kind
Speaker 2: of drugs are you giving me this recovery?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 7: Yeah, drugs are good.
Speaker 2: Three weeks later? Yeah, the hell's going on? I haven't
Speaker 2: talked on this channel. Yeah, and now too. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: there's some more inventory. It's certainly not there where you
Speaker 2: need to be, but there is. So there are people
Speaker 2: waiting for more deals, is what you're Saying's like, I
Speaker 2: can get better if I sign, but you could always
Speaker 2: refinance later too, right of course, and the property you want.
Speaker 7: And right now, the interest rate is around six point
Speaker 7: three five when I looked yesterday. That's pretty good because
Speaker 7: we were around seven percent.
Speaker 2: How long it's good. People are waiting to get back
Speaker 2: down to the glory days of sub three percent. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be like ten years, isn't it.
Speaker 7: I don't think you'll ever see that again, because it
Speaker 7: really it's what they say, it really mess stuff. I mean,
Speaker 7: I don't know, I'll never say never.
Speaker 2: What did it mess up? You said it was gonna mess.
Speaker 7: Well, because there's so many people that are still sitting
Speaker 7: on the sidelines with a three percent mortgage saying I'm
Speaker 7: not giving that up.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know so paid.
Speaker 7: Many people are staying in their home so much longer
Speaker 7: because they have that low mortgage rate. So that's how
Speaker 7: it messed up things. Is like everybody felt like they're
Speaker 7: in a standstill and you know you're never going to
Speaker 7: see those rates again. It was like we've talked about it.
Speaker 7: It's like free money, you know, three percent mortgage, are
Speaker 7: you kidding?
Speaker 2: I remembers locking into like two seven five or something ridiculous.
Speaker 7: And there are some people who they are milking every
Speaker 7: bit of that. You know, they're not paying it off
Speaker 7: because they're like.
Speaker 2: Well, at some point, you know, you either move because
Speaker 2: of a job or because you've got to move, or
Speaker 2: you you know, you wind up dying yourself at that point.
Speaker 2: But that's a long time though. That's that's glacial in
Speaker 2: terms of what you guys do. Also when the mortgage
Speaker 2: mortgage broking business.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, so we're definitely going to see some volatility. I
Speaker 7: would say, you know, just everybody has to be patient.
Speaker 7: I have had to be really patient over the last now.
Speaker 7: But and I know that everybody has missed you, So
Speaker 7: I don't think that's true. No, I know, I've heard
Speaker 7: lots of people who have missed.
Speaker 2: Somebody gave me this morning, somebody somebody I work with it.
Speaker 2: How's your week? Are are you? How you were you
Speaker 2: in bed?
Speaker 7: They didn't even notice.
Speaker 2: You right, see you all the time. Thanks for the flowers.
Speaker 2: My wife Michelle Sloan Sloan Selles Holmes dot com open
Speaker 2: house show that's on YouTube and of course via the
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app where the podcasts are to talk real estate
Speaker 2: every Thursday morning. I was going to come back on Monday,
Speaker 2: but she said, damn it, I've missed my segment twice
Speaker 2: now and I gotta you gotta get back. Come back
Speaker 2: on Thursday so I can. Well it worked out because
Speaker 2: you know, and you're picking me up and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: Yes, for the next three weeks, I get to be
Speaker 7: the chauffeur to the Star.
Speaker 2: There's a chance maybe though that it's sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: There's a chance I could maybe start driving again.
Speaker 7: You can't pick up your scooter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta have littlecoore. I got a little ne
Speaker 2: scooter I roll around with with a basket on it
Speaker 2: full so if you see me, you get a shot.
Speaker 7: He does have a basket like Dorothy. It's so funny
Speaker 7: his knee scooter. And he's pretty fast.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, the most stable thing you could. I could
Speaker 2: roll that pretty easy. I gotta be careful, I know.
Speaker 7: Yeah that's all.
Speaker 2: But i'll tell you what. It beats crutches, that's for
Speaker 2: damn sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah you're pretty I can.
Speaker 2: I got crutches too, but.
Speaker 7: I can outrun you on the finding is.
Speaker 2: The crutches were from my daughter at acl surgery when
Speaker 2: she was a teenager. From sports and uh, somehow, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I got those a little short for me,
Speaker 2: so i'd wrapped howels like, why did I just get
Speaker 2: a new pair of crutches but I got old school crutches.
Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, but manly that nee scooter.
Speaker 2: I tell you, if you had leg knee surgery, that's
Speaker 2: the way to go.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it does seem a bit wobbly though it is,
Speaker 7: but yeah, you the hard part for you now, our.
Speaker 2: Dog is not a fan of that. He sees that
Speaker 2: thing and he hides because he's afraidest title is going
Speaker 2: to get run over or something with that. Other than that,
Speaker 2: it's pretty good. So yeah, all right, well love me,
Speaker 2: thanks again, and I've got to get going here because
Speaker 2: Willie is on the way in a few minutes here
Speaker 2: in the Big One seven hundred WLW. Of course, the
Speaker 2: big story today written and we'll get into this. I
Speaker 2: think maybe with the Reds round up the cowb I'm
Speaker 2: not quite sure. But of course, the Reds losing last
Speaker 2: night in LA kind of root in a sense, thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a foregone conclusion because the other teams all
Speaker 2: took them to game four or game threes rather, and
Speaker 2: the Reds got swept out in Los Angeles last night.
Speaker 2: We had a chance early on, They're up to nothing,
Speaker 2: looks it was gonna hold for a while, and then
Speaker 2: LA does what they do with that big fat payroll
Speaker 2: of theirs and just steamrolled the Cincinnati Reds last night.
Speaker 2: So the Reds have been eliminated and you can't kill
Speaker 2: them while they got killed in two games just like that.
Speaker 2: So we got lots to talk about that. Of course,
Speaker 2: the big story today, And if you're waking up this morning,
Speaker 2: you're a little hungover from watching the Reds and they
Speaker 2: had answer certainly basis loaded situations, couldn't get the guys around,
Speaker 2: and they lose in Los Angeles, eliminated from playoffs for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Now, the good news is, and I
Speaker 2: think the honest is on ownership here in the Castellini family,
Speaker 2: what moves you make in the offseason to get yourself
Speaker 2: to the point where you can advance in the postseason. Really,
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about it all year long, how
Speaker 2: close they really were, felt like a five hundred team
Speaker 2: all season. They hovered around that. But what puts them
Speaker 2: over the top gonna be some bats, although we've seen
Speaker 2: that before. You get bats in Cincinnati and Great American
Speaker 2: Small Park, and for some reason, batters come here and
Speaker 2: they still can't hit. So I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: a curse, if we have to have some sort of
Speaker 2: exorcism at Great American Ballpark, I'm not quite sure. But
Speaker 2: as bad as it is to get licked and whooped
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles against the team that quite honestly came
Speaker 2: off a World Series championship and just said they're payroll
Speaker 2: absolutely loaded, so I know it's going to be a
Speaker 2: good twenty twenty six for sure. I know, I know.
Speaker 2: And we've got a long, long cold winter the way
Speaker 2: the Bengals are playing anyway, that and more coming up
Speaker 2: with Jeff Brownley the Cowboy. We'll get to news, and
Speaker 2: then Cunningham takes over twelve oh six. I'll see it
Speaker 2: back here to Martin. Nine oh six, got thrown back
Speaker 2: finally on the Home of the Red seven hundred WWD Cincinnati,