1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Don't want to be an American. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 2: The answer to the question do you miss me? Would 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: be who slowly back on seven hundred w l ws. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: I said back a little longer than I explained to 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: be out at this point, I'm the injury, but I'm 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: playing injured. Unlike some people, I can play injured. Explain 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: to me. Austin Elmore is in from ESPN fifteen thirty. Well, 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: chop up the Reds demise. But here's Joe Burrow, the 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: multi billion dollar quarterback. We're not gonna do here we go, 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: You're not in the game. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: After being gone, you take more vacation time than Willie, 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 3: and then you have this phantom ankle injury that keeps 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: you out for an extra month, and you want to 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: come in here talking about the durability of Joe Burrow. 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it. I'm Joe Burrow, and 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: I am more able. Jimmy kimmeled your ass. That's what 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: should have happened. I go in for an ankle procedure, 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: which thought, hey, I got this bone rubbing out of 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: ten and it's kind of sore. Yeah. Two hours later, 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: her surgeon consentsals, my wife, your husband has been walking 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: around for god knows how long on a fully ruptured 22 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: foot foot tended. That's insane and uh is that what? 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: You blame your golf game on me? And now I 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: got Now there's no excuses. Yeah, you got your shoulder fixed, 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: you got your ankle fixed. You better get the game fixed. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: I'm like a Nascar The right side of my body 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: has been I got to the left side. Now, Holy crap, 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: just need an oil change. My search is like, yeah, 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: you fully ruptured your tendon. It's gonna be a minute. 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: Could you think of a moment when you did it? 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: Because there a pinpoint I'm speaking of my my you know, 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: eight thousand vacation days. We were in Australia and I 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: felt like a little pop and it hurt for like 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: the better part of a day. But she said you 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: probably did it before that it was something else. So 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: I'd like, I don't know, man, I'm just stupid. Well, 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: my younger my younger brother actually had surgery yesterday on 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: his shoulder and they're like, you know, we fixed your shoulder, 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: but apparently somewhere along line, you rupture your bicep. Completely 40 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: had no idea. Nope, that's true, Like we just have 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: no money Badgers. I was watching and what was it. 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: It was called Nova Can the guy who could Feel 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: No pain. It's like that should be the nickname. 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: Now, okay, wow, yeah, Like all right, well guy, I 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: guess I'm glad you're no. 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: It's fine. I mean there's and there's in all seriousness, 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: there's people who have far worse more illnesses. So I'll 48 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: take some osteoarthritis and attended seven and whatever. It's there's 49 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: worst crap out there and one of those things that's 50 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: causing a lot of pain. Today. Uh, Sunday was wonderful 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: because Sunday the champagne was flowing. The shirts came out. 52 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: You get your limited edition built for Fall shirts. Maybe 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: second guessing that purchase this morning Wednesday, I'm really glad 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: I didn't go down to that shop. You know, you're 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: not that guy. I like that. 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: I like that sort of stuff, but I only will 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: buy it, really if the team advances. I have a 58 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: Bengals Super Bowl fifty six quarters it yeah, still has 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: the tags on it. Never worn it not at all 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: because they didn't win. It just sits in my car. 61 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: I don't wear the Hey wild Card, like if you 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: win the World Series, Super Bowl. Whatever. Did you see 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: the different story of the hat with the post? How 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: much seventy dollars? It's insane. Somebody right now is looking, 65 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: this's going, I'm really stupid. I'm really I should not. 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: Don't. 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: Don't fall into that. That means nothing, right, Championships means something, 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: even like AFC National League champion Pennant went okay, yeah, 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: but he win the division. Yeah I'm not but I'm 70 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: not buying that. It's just it's so anyway, Uh, how 71 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: do you kill cockerroaches with a big, heavy bat with 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: a Louisville slugger, Because that's what happened on two games. 73 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: They're eighteen to nine. They're outscored. The longest drought in 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: sports continues for the Red Legs. Austin Elmore, my boy 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: from ESPN fifteen thirty. El here, he and Tony Pike 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: this afternoon, about noon talking about this and all these 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: sports misery. We went in a short period of weeks 78 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: when like FC was rolling. The Reds are in a 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: historic run right now to close out the season, get 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: in the postseason. You got the Bengals kick off, oh well, 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: two and zero, and all of a sudden, in a 82 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: few short weeks all, it all burned down. Yeah, from 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: the time I left and came back, the whole city 84 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: burned down. What the hell happened? I wish I could 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: explain it, I really do. Like, obviously, the Burrow injury 86 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: changes everything for the Bengals, and the way that they 87 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: performed in Minnesota, You're like, Okay, just got away from them, 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: Surely they're not that bad. And then they confirmed that 89 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 2: they are that bad with the way that they perform 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: in Denver, and all of a sudden you've lost all 91 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: expectations for the Bengals. And then with the Reds it 92 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: was the exact opposite. They played just good enough to 93 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: outlast the Mets and get into the playoffs. Normally, an 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: eighty three win team is not going to get you 95 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: into the playoffs. The Reds were just enough better than 96 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: the Mets, who had a historical collapse and the same 97 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: and half of the season to get into the The 98 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: Reds did not go on this surge of offense and 99 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: pitching in defense to earn a spot into the postseason. 100 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: They simply didn't play as bad as the Mets. In 101 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: all fairness, they played a really good series against the 102 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: Milwaukee team was resting some guyst the Chicago Cubs swept 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: the Cubs, so down the stretch they did some some 104 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: and I you know people, well, yeah, you but Milwaukee's 105 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: resting their starters and there. Yeah, but you still did 106 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: something you haven't been able to do, I think since 107 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Kennedy was president, feels like and that was beat it. 108 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: Take a series in Milwaukee, brothers in Milwaukee on top 109 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, but what does that mean? 110 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 5: Now? 111 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: You were in the playoffs? Okay, so had they lost 112 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: they swept again, they wouldn't be in and they played 113 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: two more games. It's another beat. It's a it's another 114 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: baby step forward. The big question. 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: It's a baby step because in a normal year, an 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: eighty three win team is not going to make. 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: That at all. But you did. So they did it. 118 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Now what happens in the offseason, that's going to be 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: the three hundred fifty million dollar questions for sure. And 120 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: I'll start with that because because you often hear, especially 121 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: with a team like the Dodgers, where they have a 122 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty bazillion dollars payroll in the top 123 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: three guys and they're there are one, two three guys 124 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: make more than the entirety of your club combined, and 125 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: we're not even getting into pitchers and everyone else. It is, 126 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: Can the Reds actually compete on that stage? Now you 127 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: look at that go, well, Cleveland's in there. There's some 128 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: smaller market teams, smaller payroll teams that did really well. 129 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: The Mets didn't do much or were the Mets right now. 130 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: They've got a really high payroll. But at the end 131 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: of the day, can you really compete at that level? 132 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: Yes, you can. The Milwaukee Brewers have a lower payroll 133 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: in the Reds. They're the number one seed in the 134 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: National League. 135 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 6: Yep. 136 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: Everything they do is first classes and the way it's 137 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: scouting and development in their minor league system, in their 138 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: pitching department, all of it. And so, if you are 139 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: going to be an organization that chooses not to compete 140 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: at the highest level financially with the top guys in 141 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: the National League, which the Reds do, they do. They 142 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: have that type of money, the Dodgers' money. No, nobody 143 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: has the Dodgers' money, but the Reds. The Reds could 144 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: be much more. They could spend much more money than 145 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: they do. They choose not to. So if you're going 146 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: to operate that way, you better have the rest of 147 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: your button, your operation buttoned up, and it doesn't feel 148 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: like they have that entirely buttoned up right now because 149 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: there was not enough development this year from young players. 150 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: I think you feel really good about Noel vi Marte. 151 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 3: I think you feel really good about salth Stewart. Awesome, 152 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: but you're questioning Ellie de la Cruz defensively took a 153 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: step back. Matt McClain put together one of the worst 154 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: offensive seasons in the history of the Reds franchise, and 155 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: he played nearly every day. Austin Hayes one year deal, 156 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: hurt all the time, Miguel andhar expiring deal, good acquisition. 157 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: Maybe you consider bringing him back. TJ friedel red hot 158 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: for the first seventy five games of the season, just 159 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: a guy for the back half. Stevenson injured, Okay, not great, 160 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: Jose Travino fell off a cliff, Gavin Lux not a 161 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: complete liability defensively. So there's clearly a lot of work 162 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: that needs to be done on this roster. And I 163 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: give Terry francona credit for all of what I just said. 164 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: He did a good job with them of weathering the 165 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: storm and keeping them competitive. He never let it unravel. 166 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: That felt like that was the best that you could 167 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: get out of this group of guys. Terry Francona got 168 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: the best out of what he was given. Yeah, as 169 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: he always does. I would say that up until like 170 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: the last two weeks of the season into the playoffs, 171 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: I found myself second guessing him more than of Zach Lettel. 172 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: Zach Lettel, I mean, I got it right here. So 173 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: the whole idea of the Reds making the playoffs was 174 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: they have Hunter Green, they have Nicolodolo, and they have 175 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: Andrew Rabbit. Andrew Rabbit pitching the All Star Game this year, 176 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: he didn't pitch in the postseason. Yeah, Niicolodolo last Night 177 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: fourteen was filthy. He threw fourteen pitches. Yeah, and Hunter 178 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: Green did not meet the moment through sixty five pitches 179 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: and got showed. 180 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 2: Did anyone see that? 181 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: So the reason that they were supposed to be competitive 182 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and I thought they would be competitive, 183 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: I legitimately hand up. I gave up on this team. 184 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: I quit on this team. I second guessed this team. 185 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: But I said the entire time, if they make the postseason, 186 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 3: they can make some noise because of their pitching, and 187 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: Abbott and Lodolo combined for fourteen pitches. 188 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: For the ball for the second half of the season, 189 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: probably last third of the season. I was convinced, Okay, 190 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: this feels to me, it's a five hundred team, right, 191 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 2: It's a five hundred ball club, maybe a couple of 192 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: games over below. But he kind of backed into the 193 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: playoffs with the Mets collapsing as they did, and it 194 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, it's not twenty five, it's twenty six, 195 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: it's twenty seven, that they're going to get this thing together. 196 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: Put it in. I get the criticism of Terry frank ConA, 197 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: but did anyone expect to his credit? Okay, so he 198 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: pitches zach Lytell, and he went why the hell would 199 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: he not? Why is Loddole only getting a dozen pitches? 200 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: Why are you saying having Abbott for a game three 201 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: that may not happen. You know you've got to play 202 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: for tomorrow. You gotta play for today, not tomorrow. I 203 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: understand the second guessing he's a Hall of Fame manager. 204 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: I give why birth to that, because he has a 205 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: track record of success where he goes. The zach Lytell 206 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: start was certainly questionable, but you know to him going 207 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: to you don't know what your game one day the next. 208 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: The biggest evidence of that, as you mentioned, is Hunter Green. 209 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: Did anyone expect Hunter Green in Game one to collapse 210 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: as quickly and as easily as said? No one believed that. 211 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: And here's the other part of the whole conversation of 212 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: having your operation buttoned up. It was revealed yesterday afternoon 213 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: that the Reds were tipping their pitches did in Game one, 214 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: and Hunter Green was the chief among them, and he 215 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: obviously gets touched up by the Dodgers. How do you 216 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: not know going into the postseason what your tels are. 217 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: Mike Napoli is on the Reds pitching staff, he or 218 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: is on the Reds coaching staff. He's there because he's 219 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: really good at that picking up guys that are tipping pitches, 220 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: both on the opponents and on themselves. Well, first of all, 221 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: how many times have the Reds off exploded offensively? It 222 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: makes you feel like, oh, the other team was tipping 223 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: their pitches. Never happens. And how do you not have 224 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: a self scout in there in your system to say, 225 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: Hunter you're doing this with your glove when you throw 226 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: a breaking ball. You're doing this with your foot when 227 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 3: you throw a fastball. Whatever it is like that sort 228 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: of stuff is what I'm saying. You have to have 229 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: that buttoned up because you don't have the talent advantage 230 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: against the best teams in baseball. 231 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: And that's at least twice has happened this season where 232 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: somebody's tiping their pitches. It happened with Chase Burns in Boston. Right, 233 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: how many other clubs have you heard this season that happen? 234 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: By the way, Chase Burns is another one. He pitched 235 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: the eighth inning last night. The game was out of hand. 236 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: What are we doing? You're not gonna You're. 237 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: Pitching is your strength and they combined for seventy six 238 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: pitches seventy nine pitches. 239 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: The other side of that, though, is offensively speaking, it's 240 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: sound like, you know, the Dodgers have a Vulnert but 241 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: in their bullpen versus ours, and did not exploit that. 242 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: Now they did anyone think last night? That a two 243 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: run lead, and it was great to see them pouncing 244 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: on him early. I mean, that was awesome. Right. Sure, 245 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: you mentioned Sal Stewart, I am I'm definitely buying some 246 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: sales Stewart. I love that guy for a rookie to 247 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: show what he did at Chabez Ravine that clutch shit 248 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: to drive runs in fantastic and I think it's unfair 249 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: to him, but shows the kind of guy he's for 250 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: hanging that loss on him and that that throwing here 251 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: because there's a lot of other problems I had that 252 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: was not at all on sales. Stewart, that's that. I 253 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: look at what transpired in that regard last night and 254 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: it just leaves me shaking my head, going, well, okay, 255 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: you know, you got a great bullpen, you get to 256 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: the Dodgers billing and can't produce runs. I look at 257 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: Ellie de la Cruz wearing that forty four, and we 258 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: heard the story on the telecast last night million million 259 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: times about how Rick Stobe but quet that number on 260 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: him because he reminded him of Eric Davis. He has 261 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: got a long way to go, a long way to 262 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: go before he's at the level of Eric Davis. Is Ellie, 263 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 2: you know, we talk about he's a superstar. He's a 264 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: every commercial you see for mlbing a promo, Ellie's on there. Ay, 265 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 2: all well and good, but what's that guy done? Yeah? 266 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: It was a tough season for Ellie. I know there 267 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: was a lot of off field issues and the loss 268 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: of his sister. He had a quad injury that I 269 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: think was probably a little more severe than we realized 270 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: that he played through. He had adjusted that swing to 271 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 3: where there was a toe tap instead of a leg kick, 272 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: and when he went back to the leg kick, some 273 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: of the power went back. Defensively, he was atrocious up 274 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: until the last two weeks of the season. A difficult 275 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: season for Ellie, but there were moments in which you 276 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: were waiting for him to grab hold of it and 277 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: to become that superstar and to match all the hype. 278 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: I did an entire segment about this going into the 279 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: game on Tuesday night, which is, yeah, Hunter Green is starting, 280 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: and that's cool, but this is a chance for Elie 281 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: de la Cruz to emerge, yes, and to. 282 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: Be the guy. And he didn't do it. He didn't 283 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: do it last night with the bases loaded. It sucks. 284 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no other way to say it. It 285 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: stinks that in that moment, your guy didn't have a moment, 286 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: and you know there was a. 287 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: Couple of time opportunities. 288 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah he did. He's had opportunities all season, He's just loaded. 289 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 3: Come on, and the Reds, you know, with runners in 290 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: scoring position and when the bases loaded, are among the 291 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: worst two worst teams in baseball. That's this was a 292 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: perfect encapsulation of their season. And it sucks for Ellie, 293 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: it really does. It sucks for Reds fans. I don't 294 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: know how else to say it. 295 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: Well again, and maybe he needs a few reps next 296 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: season too. Is not playing every yeah. 297 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: And Jeff Brantley made a point about that is next year, 298 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: the kids got to get some days off. 299 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 300 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,359 Speaker 3: And there was actually a moment last night Doug Glanville 301 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: on the TV broadcast played for Terry Francona in Philadelphia, 302 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: and he had told Terry Francona, I want to play 303 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: all one hundred and sixty two games, right, And there 304 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: was a point later in the season where Francona comes 305 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: up to him and says, it looks like the bat 306 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: is swinging you. I'm giving you a day off. 307 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. He's got to be able to do that with 308 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: Eli Da La Cruz next year. And I think there's 309 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: a learning even his advance, his advanced age and all 310 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: the experience he has, Terry would tell he admit that 311 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: he learned something new every day, which is that's what 312 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: makes him the Hall of Famer that he is. It 313 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: was awfully tough to watch Game one because you know, 314 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: it was out a hand early, and I think for 315 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: a lot of Reds fans, did you have a sense 316 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: like as soon as Otani hit that that jack jack 317 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: that first, You're like, man, maybe this this run is over. 318 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: You know what to do that to the first inning, 319 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: the first pitch, But boy, you know that was an 320 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: eye opening moment for me, and it got worse from there. 321 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: In Game one, you're hoping for a bounce back ten 322 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: who it started that way, and you're like, we got 323 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: to get more than two runs against this Dodger team, 324 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: and they didn't until it was too late. Yeah, I 325 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: mean I kind of figured once the home runs happened 326 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: that the game one was over, just because I know 327 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: the Reds don't have the ability to score a bunch 328 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: of runs, So you know, that one I thought it 329 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: was over. But I legitimately thought the plan going into 330 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: last night, if lttel can go through the order once 331 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: and then get you through to Lodolo, you'll be good. 332 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: Everybody on the planet knew that you can't leave Lodolo 333 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: or Lattel in more than that batter in the fourth 334 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: Yea and Francona did. There was, if I have any criticisms, 335 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: there was times towards the end of this season where 336 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: it felt like Terry Francona didn't have the feel for 337 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: the game. And that's concerning to me. All right, off season, 338 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: Red's gonna We're gonna talk about this all offseason. And 339 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: now a lot of this is it's not about Terry 340 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: francne Is. It's gonna certainly be on the front off. 341 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: It's going to be Bob and Phil in time to 342 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: open up the purse strings, micause you got this far. 343 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: My final point is this, Yes, you can be happy 344 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: that the Reds made an appearance in the postseason, but 345 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: you should at no point feel satisfied with what they accomplished. 346 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: They shouldn't feel that way, Bob, Phil, Nick, Terry, every 347 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: player on that team. There was a sense of accomplishment 348 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: in the clubhouse last night, and that's bs. They should 349 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: not feel that way because this team underachieved. As far 350 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, A lot left on the table and 351 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: waiting for that moment to go Okay, good this this 352 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: is a pause, and now we move forward. 353 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: The goal should always be much, much more than just 354 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: making an appearance in the postseason. The Reds have the 355 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: longest playoff advancement drought in North American sports at over 356 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: thirty years. Until you change, and until you actually advance, 357 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: no one's going to take you seriously. And I will 358 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: not celebrate postseason appearances. Don't buy the postseason built for 359 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: fall shirt. So you spend your money however you want. 360 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: I don't care until I'm not going to do it. 361 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm waiting till you do. You got to do something. 362 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: You got to show me something. Win the division, win something. 363 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: Austin Elmore late today new in ESPN fifteen thirty. Are 364 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: lots to talk about with him and to Pike, thanks Budy, 365 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: appreciate you seven hundred WW. Every time there's a protest 366 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: place like oh Portland, for example, and people are on 367 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: the streets, and then the people in law enforcement wearing 368 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: the helmets and have the batons out and the shields, 369 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: and when these people get arrested for not they always 370 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: start crying. You kind of knew it's coming. If you 371 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: don't get out, you're surprised at you're crying that you're 372 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: getting arrested. I just I don't understand it. I don't 373 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: I don't get it. But that's part of old Agehoe 374 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: is getting all banged ups. Loney back on seven hundred WLW. 375 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: All right, the ankle's making but we're making progress on 376 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 2: the ankle. Three more weeks and I can put it. 377 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: How about that good times to be had? You know this, 378 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, and I haven't listened at all because 379 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: I've been kind of out of it. But the government shutdown. 380 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: Get into that for a minute here before other stuff. 381 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: You know, it's the same tired political game that goes on, 382 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: and if you're cheering for one side or the other, 383 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: then you know, maybe you want to take pause and 384 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: just listen for a second. Because everything you need to 385 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: know about this shutdown comes from a headline from of 386 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: all things, the athletic, and the headline is that what 387 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: the athletic? What has that got to do with the shutdown? 388 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: Here's your headline. Air Force versus Navy football will go 389 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: on as scheduled. The ongoing US government shutdown will not 390 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: impact the playing of college sports games at Air Force 391 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: Army and Navy. What does that tell you about the 392 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: seriousness of those who are shutting our government down. It's 393 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: all theater. If you manufacture a crisis and pretend it's 394 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: the other side that's evil in doing this, and you 395 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: get enough people to believe you, you win, because fear 396 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: is the currency of power. The truth is how much 397 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: has actually closed? Do you have an idea of how 398 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: you look at all the federal government? The eleventy billion 399 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: eleveny what is it, eleven dy billion dot, whatever the 400 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: hell it is, of how much money we spend every minute? 401 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: The shutdown effects about eight percent of that federal budget. 402 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: Eight percent of the federal budget is not funded currently 403 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: because of the shutdown. In the order itself, it requires 404 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: it non essential departments shut down. What should enrage all 405 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: of us, especially those of us who are either those 406 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: of you who are really conservative Magget conservatives or lean 407 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: to the right, or libertarian like me, because that means 408 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 2: that the Maga Doze phonies consider ninety two percent of 409 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: government to be essential. I thought, this is about shedding. 410 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second, because you may, 411 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: just because of the nature of the way this is going, 412 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: shed some jobs here. But so that means that those 413 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: who are going to shut this thing down, ninety two 414 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: percent of government is essential. Well, what was Doze about then? 415 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: And Dooze literally figuratively didn't do anything. So you have defense, 416 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: you have veterans affairs, you have health and human services, 417 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: and labor and education and energy, and a bunch of 418 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: air traffic controllers, Transportation Security Administration TSA officers. My daughter's 419 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: flying today, so she'll be fine. Customers in Border Protection 420 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: IRS FBI, all those agents are still on the job. 421 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: About a quarter the FAA, though, is going to be furloughed, 422 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: which again is just just enough, just enough disruption for 423 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 2: someone to know. It's not going to shut the airlines down. 424 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna shut anything, but it's gonna be just 425 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: a little more, a little more crowd, a little more slow, 426 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: little more plotting, just enough to maybe get your tender. 427 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: You're still gonna get your student loan, You're still gonna 428 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: get your Social Security, you're gonna blieve me, you're gonna 429 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: be able to get your PLAVIXX. You're gonna be fine. 430 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: But if you you know the thing is, if you 431 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: really want to stop this BS, we're gonna shut the 432 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: government down. Every time we don't get our way, or 433 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: to send a message and bring America to its knees, 434 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: which really doesn't have you really want to stop this, 435 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: you know, Congress, the executive branch, the judiciaria. How about 436 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: you don't get paid during a shutdown? What you can't 437 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: not pay us? How about your health benefits go away? 438 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: Members of the Senate, members of the Congress, you get 439 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: in it. You can't go to the doctor, you can't 440 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: get You're gonna have to pay out of pocket for 441 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: stuff when the government shuts down. I know, okay, we can't. 442 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: We gotta pay these guys because it's constitutional, it's protected. 443 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: But what about the benefits? Why don't we cut the 444 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 2: spict off to that? Why don you guys vote on that. 445 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: Put that up there and say hello, and every time 446 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: we shut the government down, we can't come with a 447 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: budget and we'll get paid. But yeah, the healthcare of 448 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: the perks, the car surface, all that stuff that they 449 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: get that goes away. So we open things. But you 450 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: don't think that would maybe we'd see a lot fewer 451 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: disruptions like this. I would, because you know it's a 452 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: temper tantrum. We want outrage for our cause. Not outrage 453 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: at the system that encourages it. You know, if you 454 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: again on that note, if you want to hear from 455 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: constituents and they you know, they want you maybe paying 456 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: attention to all the government's shutting down. This is bad. 457 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: We've got to get this thing together and on what's 458 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: causing this whole thing. If you cut medicare off in 459 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: social security, that get it people's attention, right and and 460 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: but now it's like, well, okay, what's the narrative on 461 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: this thing, the shutdown? Well, Schumer really is under pressure 462 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: from his base to show that Democrats are want to 463 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: take the hammer to Trump and those the AOC who's 464 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: been all over the place, the EOC is the world 465 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: of progressives of the party are angry as Trump continues 466 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: to get what he wants, and so like, hey, we'll 467 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: shut things down and we'll use healthcare in this case 468 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: as a pretext. And you know, the sad part about 469 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: this thing is what we want. Okay, we need to 470 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: save Obamacare. That's what this is about. This is about 471 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: saving We got to there's twenty two million people who 472 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: depend on this, and I agreed, and the healthcare has 473 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: been a mess for a long time and Republicans hold 474 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: a majority, but Democrats are needed to move those funding 475 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: bills in the Senate, And so now it's the party 476 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: attacking Republicans is irresponsible for threatening shutdowns in the past, 477 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: and now they're shutting things down themselves and throwing their 478 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 2: own temper tantrum, which further illustrates the silliness of politics. 479 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: I will say, though, that as I look at this, 480 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: maybe there's a chance that the federal workforce comes out 481 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: and maybe it's a little bit smaller as result of 482 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: this thing. Because you know Trump is and he's great 483 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: at calling somebody's bluff saying okay, went after the Office 484 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: of Budget Management and say, how about this, We'll start 485 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: permanent job cuts as the government shuts down. But we 486 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: know the government really never shuts down, as I just 487 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: pointed out, by only eight percent of government shutting down, 488 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: ninety two percent is still fully functional and funded, and somehow, 489 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: some way, within a week or two at the most, 490 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: the two parties always work out in agreement. And what 491 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: the agreement is is, hey, you know what, we're just 492 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: going to kick the can down the road for a 493 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: few more months and spend a lot more money doing it, 494 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: bankrupting America even further. That sound like a plan to you. 495 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: That sounds like a plan, and that's what happens every 496 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: stinging time. So the idea that somehow is like we're 497 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 2: fighting for this guys who we're fighting for the American 498 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: But they're fighting for yourselves. You're fighting for power and 499 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: scaring people is the currency you spend to get what 500 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: you want. And that's really how things work. That's how 501 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: government works. But helps like eight percent. Okay, you look 502 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: at that, go wait, wait a minute, this is about 503 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: eight percent of the government. Yeah, the important stuff, that 504 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: is stuff important to them. It still stays open, some 505 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: big deal. It's illustrated by that point. The Air Force 506 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: Navy football game will still go on. Well why isn't 507 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: that shut down. I'm not saying I enjoy Service academy battles, 508 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: especially the Army Navy game. We didn't like that. It's 509 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: about as American as it gets. Tell you what, I've 510 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: seen a game in Navy Marine Corps Stadium. It's a 511 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: phenomenal play. I haven't seen anything at the other academies, 512 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: but they're in Maryland. Absolutely, it puts a lump in 513 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: your throat. It makes the hair in the back of 514 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: your next ten. It's all of that. If you've ever 515 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: been to a game there, it's fantastic to watch the 516 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 2: midshipman come marching. It's really really cool. But okay, if 517 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: we shut government down, why are we doing that? Well, 518 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: that's different, is it is? That doesn't seem essential? Yeah, 519 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: but you can't. Really that's punishing the athletes of Yeah, 520 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: but you're the ones guys shutting the government down, not them, 521 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: not our soldiers and airmen and sailors. Well you don't understand. 522 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: I understand perfectly. What you're doing is you're jerking our chain. 523 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: Like if you really wanted to get stuff done in Washington, 524 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: if there's an impetus to do that, you would. But 525 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, we again it's the nature of politics because 526 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: we took what works in sports, and that is you 527 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 2: know this, this this rabid fan base that we have 528 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: for you look at look at everything in sports are 529 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: gone all right? You look at people buying Bengals jerseys 530 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: and helmets. You know, you see somebody wearing a I 531 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: don't know, a Trump hat, or someone who has a 532 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: bunch of you know, liberal bumper stickers on their Volvo 533 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: driving on seventy five I mean, you're kind of buying 534 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: that merch too. It's it's to we take in sports 535 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 2: and just said, hey, you know what they worked for 536 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: sports looking to rabbit. People are over sports. We'll just 537 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: apply to the politics. That's pretty damn good. Let's do that. 538 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: And we've kind of made a theater so you know, 539 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: we're the ones that encourageous behavior. If we want to 540 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: stop the nonsense. And I don't know if that day 541 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: is coming or we said okay, enoughs enough already, then 542 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: we say, all right, we're going to make some changes 543 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: on who we vote for and who we're going to 544 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: send a wash into our bidding. But that's not going 545 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: to happen for a very very long time, if any 546 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: time in my lifetime are yours? But the shocking fact 547 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: of the matter is ninety two percent of government still 548 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: operates just fine. It's the eight percent. It's kind of like, 549 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to I'm trying to look think at 550 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: a really good metaphor for this kind of like let's say, 551 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: I don't know, you show up to a place that 552 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: you have business with and there's a front office and 553 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: you go the doors are locked, and the receptionist desk 554 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: is empty and it's dark. But meanwhile, in the back, 555 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: if you kind of look around where the receptionist area is, 556 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: you're like, there's people back there working. That's kind of 557 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: what this is like. It's like, I don't know, a 558 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: company holiday or something like, yeah, okay, well the forward 559 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: facing people, the receptionists, the janitors, the vendors that okay, 560 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: you know what, we're not going to put snacks back 561 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: in the vending machine this week or two weeks, but 562 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: everything else is still going to work. Well, that's what 563 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 2: this is. Government's still working, all the important stuff's getting done. 564 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: It's just they're showing us just how silly the whole 565 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: battle is over. Well, what is this? This is over healthcare. 566 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you can negotiate this and not close the governm. 567 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: But every time we have a shutdown, it's because of something, 568 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: somebody trying to make a political point. And certainly they're 569 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: fighting for the soul to the Democratic Party with the 570 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: progressive Left and the Centrists and the you know, the 571 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: Greg Lansman's against the others and so on, and that's 572 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: all well and good, but I don't understand why you 573 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: need to do this to make your point. You know, 574 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: healthcare has been in atrocity in this country for a 575 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: long time. And maybe I'll get this at a later 576 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 2: date in that top of my head. You know, if 577 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: you look over the last even twenty years, the number 578 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: of businesses that are offering healthcare benefits, and particularly it's 579 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: it's small business are fewer and fewer. 580 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 6: Now. 581 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: If you're in a big company, you can offer great 582 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: healthcare benefits. And I've been working for a big company. 583 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: I take advantage that I just got off medical leave 584 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: with ankle surgery because my company offers a wonderful health 585 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: benefits package. And I'm very very fortunate and blessed and 586 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: lucky to have that. I get that because if you 587 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: work for a smaller company or smaller companies or a 588 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: mom and pop, you can't afford the healthcare benefits used 589 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: to be. That's like, okay, we've got to offer this 590 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: stuff to stay comped. If you can't afford to do 591 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: that anymore, and fear in fear companies, small companies and 592 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: that'd be those who employ under two hundred, which are 593 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: the bulk of employers in America, can't do that any longer. 594 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: And we've heard from Democrats about how we have to 595 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: save that for people. Okay, good, what's your plan. Well, 596 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: we've got this Affordable Care Act thing. Okay, how's that work? Well, 597 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: it pays your itself, except for the fact that we 598 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: have to subsidize about twenty two million people for them 599 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: to be able to afford it, and then even the 600 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: people who aren't subsidized really can't afford it all that much. 601 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: That works really well when you have it, but it 602 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: really cost a hell of a lot of money. So 603 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: we have to take government money to fund the healthcare 604 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: program that we passed in the first place because we 605 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: said it would save a lot of people. Well, then 606 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't pay for itself. It doesn't work. Well, it works, 607 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: we just have to prop it up with subsidy. Well, 608 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: then it doesn't work. If that's the case, And that's 609 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: what they're dying on the sol far right now, or 610 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: at least I guess the theater of dying on the 611 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: hill for you and I. Meanwhile, we've had Republicans in 612 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: power for a while, and when they continue to shoot 613 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: down the Affordable Care Acts for pointing out what I 614 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: just said and other things, nod your head and you 615 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: agree with them, then you go, well, what's your plan? Well, 616 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: have you heard any plans. I mean, we spend a lot. 617 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: We're talking about spending on defense and ice and all 618 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: these other things, not saying that those aren't bad causes, 619 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: but healthcare is pretty important to a lot of us. 620 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: And the older you got, the more important it is. 621 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: Trust me, I'm the poster boy for that right now. 622 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: It's not like Republicans are going, here's what we're going 623 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: to do for healthcare other than oppose the ACA? 624 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 7: What else? 625 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: You got nothing? So, you know, instead of working for 626 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: the party and our cause and our belief in getting 627 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: us voted and get us in power, and the promises 628 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: were going to change and everyone's life is going to 629 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: be better, and we're going to hit you here. We 630 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: are now well into Trump's term and I'm not quite 631 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: seeing where all this money is. Everyone's going to be rich, 632 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: and all the promises are made in the trail or 633 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: not quite comes to fruition. Similarly, when Democrats get elected, 634 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: same thing. The promises made are never kept. Some of 635 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: them are the big ones day we kind of forgot about. 636 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: But by and large, you know, healthcare isn't getting any better. 637 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: It's getting worse. Arguably, it's getting worse. For us, but 638 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: shutting government down to make for some gestures just stupid. 639 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: It's irresponsible, which is fairly illustrative of how politics work 640 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: for us, which is simply just not at all. But hey, 641 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: the good news is Air Force and Navy are gonna 642 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: play football this weekend, So the important stuff has been 643 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: left open and saved by the federal government. And maybe 644 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: we're a little bit cranky this morning because staying up 645 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: late last night and getting fully invested in this Reds 646 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: baseball team that bitterly disappointed us. Maybe there's another reason. 647 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: Maybe looking well, you know, we've got the now we 648 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: don't have the Bengals this weekend, got the Lions coming 649 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: to town against the Bengals. And if you thought that 650 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: Minnesota was bad, you think, okay, maybe that's a one 651 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: not a one off, that's a trend. And I don't 652 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: think the Lions are going to come in here and 653 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: lay an egg. Probably not. And so we've time to 654 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: look for things to distract us and go we'll take 655 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: my man off the pain in agony real life, get 656 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: me something new in jail. We don't even have that 657 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: right now. I was tough watch last night. If you 658 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: stayed up late to watch. I tuned out about the 659 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: sixth seventh inning, said, I know how this movie is 660 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: going to end. I guess I can watch the highlights 661 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: in the morning, and I did, and I was like, yeah, 662 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad I got caught a few hours sleep last night. 663 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: Reds get eliminated in LA at the hands of the 664 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: almighty Dodgers. Is it a payroll issue? I Austin Olmore 665 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: was just don said no, not as much, because Milwaukee's 666 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: doing just fine and they have very low pay one 667 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: of the lowest in baseball. So is it all a 668 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: payroll issue or is it a front office issue? 669 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 4: Now? 670 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: The front office, starting today has to get to work, 671 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: get some bats in the lineup to help the Reds 672 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: get over the homp, and hopefully at this time next 673 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 2: year we'll be talking not about a wild card, but 674 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: god forbid, maybe a division championship. Maybe sitting out and 675 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: going okay, we're getting ready to find out who we 676 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: play the wildcard teams because we're not one of them. 677 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: And then hopefully on the division we move around the 678 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: divisionals and then the League Series and of course the 679 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: World Series, and we'll see what happens. Hopefully that is 680 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: the case. In twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven 681 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: for the Red Lags. Hopefully Joe Burrow heals in the offseason. 682 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know if he comes back in December, 683 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: that's going to be enough the way this team is 684 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: playing right now. But hopefully brighter days are ahead. I 685 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: think that's probably true for our sports teams as well 686 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: as this country. At some point we will wake up. 687 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: That's how it is. Scott Flown Show at five, three, seven, four, nine, 688 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: seven tho eight hundred, Big One Talkback iHeartRadio app coming 689 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: up at ten oh seven this morning. Here's an interesting 690 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: story that kind of developed when I was out, and 691 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: that is a truce between the Archdiocese of Cincinnati and 692 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: the Girl Scouts of Western Ohio. And in case you 693 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: haven't heard the story, because there'sen a lot of important 694 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: stories going, but I like to focus on the local 695 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: stuff too. As the Archdiocese apparently did a onoint eighty, 696 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: the Girl Scouts are going to get kicked out because 697 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: of their very leftist pro I don't know abortion policies. 698 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that's probably true at all with Girl Scouts, 699 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: but that's what the previous archbishop thought. We got a 700 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: new archbishop and looked at it and said, no, no, 701 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: that's that's not what the Girl Scouts are about. The 702 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: Girl Scouts have been saved for our community. I think 703 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: that is a wonderful thing, because if you don't believe me, 704 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: and I know there are fewer kids and Scouting ever before, 705 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: I think we need it now more than ever because 706 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: if you look around at the bloodshed, the violence, the nonsense, 707 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: and the problems that happened this summer throughout Cincinnati, I 708 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: know the people that were doing that were probably not 709 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts. We kind of need more 710 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: of them in these times, not fewer of them. Anyway. 711 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: We'll get to that right after news update on the 712 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: Home of the Bengals, the Home of the Reds, and 713 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: other frustration. Seven hundred WWD Cincinnati. It's slowing off the 714 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: DL and back on seven hundred w welw and it's 715 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 2: good to be back after sitting around for a couple 716 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: of weeks. Jump right back into it. So one of 717 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: the stories I followed We All Together, was involving the 718 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 2: Archdiocese of Cincinnati ending there over one hundred year partnership 719 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: with the Girl Scouts of America because the bishop, the 720 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: Archbishop Denis Schnur, I guess the former bishop, I should 721 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: say at this point, just kind of out of the 722 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: blue center letter to parishioners about a year ago explaining 723 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: that at the end of this year, being twenty twenty five, 724 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: every Girl Start Troope would be kicked off unless they 725 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: converted to an American Heritage Girl Trooper leieve. And this 726 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 2: had to do with some noise coming from the Girl 727 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: Scouts nationally anyway, because out of you know this, but 728 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: they kind of operate. They're like independent operators. They can 729 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: pick and choose what type of things they want to 730 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: teach and what they're gonna what programs are going to 731 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 2: offer girls, and that depends on where you live. Makes sense, right, 732 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: And so the Girl Scouts wasn't high largely under the 733 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: Archidives Cincinnati are Catholics themselves, and so the concern was 734 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: they're going to teach a LGBTQ plus curricula to the girls, 735 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: which was never happening in the first place. And now 736 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: you have a new archbishop and Robert Casey, who read this, 737 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: looked at it and said, yeah, they haven't been doing 738 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: it before, and they came to an agreement although I 739 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: can't figure it out myself. If you come to an 740 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: agreement on something you haven't violated and haven't been doing well, 741 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: what was the point of this all? Exercise? Jo on 742 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: the show this morning on seven hundred WLW, whos a 743 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: Jennifer British? He's a west Side Derek Trupley a Girl 744 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: Scout leader and joins the show once again to discuss well. 745 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: First of all, congratulations Jennifer. 746 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, Scott. 747 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 5: And it's not just me that deserves congratulating. So many 748 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 5: women work tirelessly with the archdiocese to come to disagreement. 749 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 7: Where the world. 750 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: I know that these days the scouting in generals and 751 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: it's been declining and been looked down by many people 752 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 2: for years. It peaked I think in the nineteen seventies. 753 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: I was a Scout and my dad was an Eagle. 754 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: My brother's an Eagle. So I've been through boy Scouts myself, 755 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: and so it has a special place in my heart. 756 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 2: I understand what it does for a young man and 757 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: young women and does create future leaders. Gives you a 758 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: base of knowledge. You get to experience different things that 759 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: you may consider for career or vocation, whatever it might be, 760 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: It makes you a broader person, more into a person. 761 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 2: So I have a fun place in my heart for Scouting, 762 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: and it tore my heart apart as yours did to 763 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: see what you've gone through over the last year and 764 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: seemingly unnecessarily. 765 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean Scouting for me to family tradition, 766 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 5: it's something that you know, I'm a truth leader. It 767 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 5: gives me purpose, It gives me an opportunity to give 768 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 5: back to girls and gives them opportunities that they would 769 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 5: never have through school or through normal means. And so 770 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 5: it's just it's an amazing program in general. To your point, 771 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 5: we've been here a lot over the past year, a 772 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 5: lot of uncertainty, a lot of fog over what would 773 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 5: happen with our troops and and how we would continue 774 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 5: to operate in the community. And this is a big day, 775 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 5: a big deal for our troops and Catholic leaders across 776 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 5: the arch type. 777 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: The previous Archbishop, Denis Schnurr said, Girl Scouts embraced and 778 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: promoted an impoverished worldview regarding gender and sexuality, and that 779 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 2: includes the Girl Scouts of Western Ohio that the chapter's 780 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: you on gender goes against Catholic teaching saying that they've 781 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: used our false and harmful. But I've had you and 782 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: others on the show several times and said, well, no, 783 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: we you know, we don't teach that stuff. We don't 784 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 2: have an inclusive together patch we hand out, we don't 785 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 2: really celebrate LGBTQ plus prime months and recommending watching movies 786 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 2: that may violate Catholic doctrine because you and other leaders 787 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: are Catholic, so you're not going to teach something that 788 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: violates your sensibilities. 789 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 5: That's right, And every troop has the opportunity to create 790 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 5: programming that specifics to the troops. You got to think, like, 791 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 5: it's not just Catholic Girl Scouts. They're a Jewish Girl Scouts, 792 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 5: they're Muslim Girl Scouts. What the Girl Scouts does is 793 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 5: help us through the Girl Scout programming, you know, fortify 794 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 5: our faith, so we can pursue anything that is specific 795 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 5: to the girls that we are working for and the 796 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 5: troop and what the troop wants to go after. This 797 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 5: is not something that would ever enter into our troupe 798 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 5: curriculum or programming. Our programming is really about strength and 799 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 5: strengthen strengthening these women, these young ladies as the future 800 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 5: leaders in our community, strong mothers, strong strong women who 801 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 5: can advocate with themselves and and all of that. It's 802 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 5: just not something that would ever enter into a programming. 803 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 5: So to take it away from the girls, to take 804 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 5: away this opportunity from girls just really struck us in 805 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 5: the heart because it was something that it's so special 806 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 5: to us, and specially. 807 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I can't imagine that if you looked at 808 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: the programming, and granted it's a VN diagram, there's going 809 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 2: to be a lot of overlap. But if you looked 810 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: at the programming for the Girl Scouts of Southern California, 811 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: the Girl Scouts of Portland, Oregon, the Girl Scouts of 812 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: Greater New York City metropolitan area, and compare that to 813 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Louisville and Indianapolis and Columbus, that it's going 814 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: to differ all that much. I mean, maybe there's differences 815 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: between Cincinnati and Columbus Girl Scouts, but again, those are 816 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 2: the nuances of where you live and what the community 817 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: values are and that's not going to fly here in 818 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 2: Southwest Ohio. It never has and so that's what left 819 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: most of us scratching our head. I guess who try 820 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: to analyze us and go, okay, well, what's the endgame here? 821 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: What did Schnerr want? He just seemingly got some advice 822 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: from I guess maybe at the national level and apply 823 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: to to Cincinnati and even sitting down and talking with 824 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: you folks, with you ladies, he wouldn't even listen to that. 825 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it was. It sounded like up until last 826 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 2: minute it was a done deal until he was essential 827 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 2: because of health reasons forced out. 828 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It came as a shock to all 829 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 5: of us, including the Girl Scouts the Western Ohio. To 830 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 5: my knowledge, they were in conversations and were surprised by 831 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 5: the announcement as well, and it hit all of our 832 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 5: group leaders at the same time. So we found out 833 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 5: as the Girls scot leadership was finding out about it 834 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 5: as well. But yes, it was. You know, Archbishoptioner is 835 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 5: now retired for health reasons, as I understand it, and 836 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 5: we have the new Archbishop, Robert Casey, and he took 837 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 5: another look at it and realized the good the Girl 838 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 5: Scouts does for young women across as arch diocees and 839 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,959 Speaker 5: not just young women that you know, women too. There's 840 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 5: so many wonderful, amazing women who have dedicated their lives 841 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 5: to Girl Scouts and getting back to the next generation 842 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 5: of who were coming up, and we were all impacted severely. 843 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 5: And you know, we talked last year, Scott, I talked 844 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 5: about how these girls and my own daughter was looking 845 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 5: at me saying, what did we do wrong? It just 846 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 5: felt like such an indictment against us personally, that we 847 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 5: had done something wrong or im moral that was obviously 848 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 5: not the case. And so now I really feel strongly 849 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 5: and I'm so thankful and have so much gratitude to 850 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 5: Archbishop Casey for taking another look at this and realizing 851 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 5: that we can be Girl Scouts and Catholic at the 852 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 5: same time and help with the formation of our girls 853 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 5: in both. In both areas, we can be fully who 854 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 5: we are and helped to pass along good values, good morals, 855 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 5: the teachings of the Gospel to these girls through Scouting. 856 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: Jennifer Brady here she is a Westside Troop leader of 857 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: Girl Scouts of Southwestern Ohio and the Catholic Church the 858 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 2: Archdiocese under the new bishop, the newer Bishop, Anyway, Robert Casey, 859 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: has decided to allow Girl Scouts to continue as they 860 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: have been for now over one hundred years. You can 861 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: see your one hundred year partnership continue, which is a 862 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 2: wonderful thing. I look through the Memorandum of Understanding the 863 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 2: MoU as we call it, and what changed. 864 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 5: I think that there's more guidelines for TRUP leaders and 865 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 5: pastors now in terms of use of diocese and property. 866 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 5: True leaders are going to have to and we were anyway, 867 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 5: we're going to have to demonstrate our care for our 868 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 5: Catholic faith and morals and making sure that we are 869 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 5: are upholding those if we already use diosts and property. 870 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 5: I think it's a good thing. I think this is 871 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 5: a good thing Scott, because I mean, truth be told, 872 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 5: I don't know that the church really understood what the 873 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 5: girls of their parishes were doing or how they were 874 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 5: interacting outside of school and church. And now they're going 875 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 5: to take an active look and they're going to be 876 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 5: paying attention and they're going to see and this is 877 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 5: truly what was so disheartening about the decision last year 878 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 5: is I don't nobody at the archdiocese they asked some level, 879 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 5: had come to a TRUP meeting or asked what we 880 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 5: were doing, or really understood the programming that we were 881 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 5: doing for our girls, and now they will. They have 882 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 5: to and we have to and that dialogue, that interchange 883 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 5: is so valuable and so important. It gives us a voice, 884 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 5: It helps us be who we are, It helps us 885 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 5: be part of the broader church community, and that's huge. 886 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: So what you're saying is the archdiocese, who for one 887 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 2: hundred years welcome Girl Scouts, never really knew what the 888 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 2: Girl Scouts are doing? Is that more on them? Are you. 889 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 5: You know? Good question? I think both. Yeah, I think 890 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 5: we both bear a responsibility for that. I can't say 891 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 5: I don't know what happened one hundred years ago, but 892 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 5: at least my time as trup leader, there was not 893 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 5: a lot of exchange of information at the troop level 894 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 5: right in terms of what we were doing. But now 895 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 5: we're going to have to do that, and that's a 896 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 5: good thing. 897 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 2: Is it frustrating to think that that Schner not only 898 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 2: didn't know, but didn't want to know because you offered 899 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys said, hey, look here's what we do. 900 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: Here's a nope, don't care. You guys are out. 901 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 5: It is a little frustrating. I mean I did have 902 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 5: meetings with archdiocese personnel leadership trying to explain what it 903 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 5: was that we did at the troop level, but by 904 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 5: then the decision has already been made. I think the 905 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 5: most frustrating part of it is, you know, a year 906 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 5: has gone into this, so many women have poured their 907 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 5: hearts and souls into these conversations and trying to make 908 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 5: this right and trying to advocate for our girls. And 909 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 5: truly we're right back where we started. So there's been 910 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 5: a lot of emotional upheopal and here we are. The 911 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 5: good that has come out of it is a broader understanding. 912 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 5: I think of Girl Scout programming in our Catholic parishes 913 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 5: and I think, like I said before, the archdiocese, parish leadership, 914 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 5: pastor's priest will be more involved with the formation of 915 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 5: the girls in other ways. 916 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's one thing to go, hey, what 917 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 2: are you guys doing, because we're hearing disturbing things from 918 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 2: other Girl Scouts facility in other states and areas, what 919 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: are you guys doing specific or But to not even 920 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,240 Speaker 2: listen to what you guys presented to me is abhorrent. 921 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 2: And at the same time I realized that Archbishop Schner 922 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: had to leave and retire because of medical reasons. Had 923 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: that not occurred, we wouldn't be having this conversation. What 924 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 2: do you guys, would just simply. 925 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 5: Be out Yeah, one hundred percent. I truly believe that 926 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 5: it was ar Cases taking a look at this, understanding 927 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 5: what our girls needed and that, you know, their formation 928 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 5: as Catholic women is bigger than just what they can 929 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 5: learn at school. 930 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 931 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 5: And by the way, they're going to be in a 932 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 5: secular world, They're going to be exposed to things at 933 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 5: some point in time. It is important that we expose 934 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 5: them in the bounds of like a comfortable and safe place. 935 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 5: And I'm not advocating for exposure to DEI, gender identity 936 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 5: content anything like that, but it's important that we look 937 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 5: at them as whole people who will be out in 938 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 5: the world, will not be sheltered by their parish community 939 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 5: for their entire lives. So Arch Casey took a look 940 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 5: at that, understood that, and realized that the full formation 941 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 5: of girls is equally as important as just their spiritual formation, 942 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 5: and gave us another shot. And I'm I'm just so grateful. 943 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 2: It feels like a new era in the Archdiocese of 944 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: Cincinnati with Robert Casey. And this is not the first 945 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: good thing I've heard about him and some of the 946 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 2: decisions he made maybe been a little bit younger and 947 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: open mind and going, hey, you know, we need to 948 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 2: kick the time, take a look at things as opposed 949 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 2: to just simply listening to another voice or outside. I 950 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 2: don't know what Schner was listening to, if anyone seemed 951 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 2: like his mind was made out about eliminating girl Scouts 952 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: had been around for one hundred years in Cincinnati, and 953 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, as conservative and traditional as we are here 954 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, you know, you start messing with things like 955 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 2: the girl Scouts. To me, that's up there, scoutings up 956 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 2: there with like baseball in the American flag in Cony dogs. 957 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 5: Right, yes, yes, that's why it was such a head 958 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 5: scratcher when the decision came down. It's like, why why 959 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 5: take up dismantle with girl Scouts in your in your parishes? 960 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 5: You know, there's so many other bigger things to fight 961 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 5: or to advocate for for our community other than girl 962 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 5: Scouts in troops where we're trusted adults. So, by the way, 963 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 5: have to go through extensive training for the archdises just 964 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 5: to volunteer for these for these troops and these positions 965 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 5: trusted adults are not trusted in that way to take 966 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 5: care of these girls. And so yeah, I mean it's 967 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 5: it's it's been a conundrum that we've been wrestling with 968 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 5: for quite some time. I think Archbishop Casey took another 969 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 5: look at and said, you know what, we have to 970 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 5: trust the women of our parish or leading these troops. 971 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 5: We have to have a little bit more oversight, we 972 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 5: have to have a little bit better understanding, and they 973 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 5: have to you know, prove what they're doing with on 974 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 5: bass and property. That's not a problem for us. I'm 975 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 5: always been more than open about sharing exactly what it 976 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 5: is that we're doing. I think it's it's amazing that 977 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 5: people want to know and want to care about what 978 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 5: it is that we're teaching girls. But to your point 979 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 5: about just a change in what's happening in the art 980 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,959 Speaker 5: at the archdiopcy level, I'm so hopeful that Archbishop Casey 981 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 5: has come in and taking a look at things and said, 982 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 5: you know what, there's another way to do this. This 983 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 5: is not an indictment for me on Archbishop Schner, but 984 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 5: I think that there's always more than one way to 985 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 5: get things done, and if we can be open minded 986 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 5: enough and listen to each other enough and more we 987 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 5: can find a pass forward. And it's even the toughest, 988 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 5: toughest things that we have to. 989 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 2: Well, well, that's a tenant of the gospel, is that 990 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 2: the conversation right and learning from each other, and that 991 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: was completely absent when it came to Archbishop Sneer. Robert 992 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 2: Casey sounds like a guy wants to sit down and listen. 993 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 2: And quite honestly, there's been no you guys haven't chance 994 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: to change your policy at all. That's what I look 995 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 2: at this MoU and go, hey, three years you got 996 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 2: the deal done, and certainly you know they knowing what 997 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: you're about, and you knowing what they are about, you 998 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: can strike a partnership. But I think that was one 999 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 2: way street for so long. I don't know why and 1000 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 2: how it got lost in the in the mind of Schner. 1001 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 2: But Robert Casey sounds like a good guy in this 1002 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 2: regard and welcome to the girl scouts back. And I 1003 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 2: think too, if you look at this long brutal summer 1004 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 2: that we had large and a lot of a teen 1005 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: violence involved, and a lot of teens doing the wrong 1006 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 2: thing scouting and girls scouting in particular, or something. As 1007 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 2: you mentioned, it creates virtuous, upstanding young women. We need 1008 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 2: more of that, not less. 1009 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 5: Not less, problem solving people who are critical thinkers, people 1010 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 5: who can help to lead their community through you know, 1011 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 5: tough times, all of these things Scouting does. All of 1012 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 5: these things Scouting does, and so yes, we absolutely need 1013 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 5: more of that. And that's what I mean when I 1014 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 5: say it's not just it's religious formation first and foremost, 1015 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 5: the formation of young women into good, upstanding, contributing members 1016 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 5: of society. This is one of those programs that does it, 1017 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 5: you know, and the other thing that this whole situation 1018 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,280 Speaker 5: is really done. I do think that there's some positivity 1019 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 5: that's coming out of it. When I share the news 1020 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 5: with my daughter, she was just so proud. The girls 1021 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 5: actually were advocating from themselves. 1022 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,439 Speaker 4: Good. 1023 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if you know that, but the girls 1024 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 5: were sending letters to the archbishop, you know, coloring pictures 1025 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 5: and saying things like, you know, how important girl Scouts 1026 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 5: lives to them. There was an archdiocese why letter writing campaign. 1027 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 5: And so what we've taught our girls through and through 1028 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 5: all of this is that their voices matter, that they 1029 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 5: can advocate for themselves, that they can ask for more 1030 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 5: and they're not. They truly can't stand up as leaders 1031 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 5: in their community. When I share the news with my daughter, 1032 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 5: she looked at me, up at me, and oh, tears 1033 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 5: in her eyes. This will get emotional. But we did it, mom, 1034 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 5: we did it. And I said, yes, we did. We 1035 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 5: did it as a community of women, faithful women who 1036 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 5: care about the people around us and the community around 1037 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 5: us and making a better day. 1038 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 4: And we did it. 1039 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 7: We're so so happy. 1040 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,959 Speaker 2: That has got to be because that's a rare moment 1041 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 2: for parents are to empower your child like that, to say, hey, 1042 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 2: you know what, if you fight hard enough for something 1043 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 2: you believe and you can make a difference, you can win, 1044 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 2: you can be you can't win and get what you 1045 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 2: want if you try to do it the right way. 1046 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 2: And I mean that's something is to carry her for 1047 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 2: the rest of her life. That's a that's a core 1048 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: tenant that she saw in action. How cool is that? 1049 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 5: Oh, it's amazing. My heart felt with a lot of pride, 1050 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 5: not just for the work that I did, minimal, you know, 1051 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,439 Speaker 5: work that I did, but the work that so many 1052 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 5: women the Catholic Committee for GSWO GSWO Leadership, I mean, 1053 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 5: they were the ones at the table having these tough conversations, negotiating, compromising, 1054 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 5: coming up with a pass forward. That's the hard work. 1055 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 5: But our girls, their voices are the reasons why and 1056 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 5: care for them are the reasons why we got to 1057 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 5: see They got to see it at the table to 1058 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 5: make this happen. So yes, it's an amazing opportunity for 1059 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 5: these young girls to see what advocacy and action can 1060 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 5: lead to. I can't tell you how many people Scott 1061 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 5: told me last year, You're not going to change any thing. 1062 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 5: That's impossible. This is what it is. Move on, and 1063 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 5: we didn't. The girls and the women of Girl Scouts 1064 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 5: in the archdiocese didn't move on. We didn't stop to 1065 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 5: continue to advocate for ourselves in the right way, in 1066 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 5: a positive way with this course. 1067 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 2: Jennifer Brady, west Side Troop Leader, congratulations and a victory 1068 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 2: well deserved. All the best to you, Scott, Thank you, 1069 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 2: Take care. Yeah, I hear that I can help, but 1070 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 2: think that you know, God works in mysterious ways, and 1071 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 2: you certainly never want to pray for someone else's demise 1072 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 2: or you know, health or something like that. But the 1073 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 2: timing of Archbishop Schneer getting sick and having to resign 1074 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 2: because of health reasons. It certainly worked out for the 1075 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 2: Girl Scouts in this case because had he not, they 1076 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 2: would be done. And that is it's an abomination not 1077 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 2: to not to sit down at least listen to what 1078 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: they have to say. You have all the credit in 1079 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 2: the world to Robert Kaser for being that guy. Time 1080 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: out Mortifile Sloany seven hundred WLW. 1081 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 6: Time for your girl too, taking on that trending topics 1082 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 6: on social media, breaking down the latest celebrity in music news. 1083 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 6: Then you off on all local nightline anything else she 1084 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 6: feels like talking about. This is three things with Tiff 1085 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 6: Potter on seven hundred El Jelly. 1086 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 2: What is good to be back? My girl Tiff Potter 1087 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 2: is here from Kissleno seven to one. How about that 1088 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 2: forget how to do this segment that what is to 1089 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 2: be a man? To go through life as a man? 1090 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 8: Your tendant was ruptured for months. 1091 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 7: And you're like, why am I in so much pain? 1092 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 8: And then you go and they're like, we basically need 1093 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 8: to cut this thing off and give you a new leg. 1094 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a whole new leg right now. It's 1095 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 2: a little Barbie leg too. It's a little weird pretty 1096 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 2: if you're the pink now it's going to be like 1097 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 2: a Barbie leg is the atrophy probably is. 1098 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 8: What the I still cannot get over the fact that 1099 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 8: you went that long with an injury that required that 1100 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 8: much time off. 1101 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: Well, right, I know what what does that say about 1102 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow? 1103 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 7: For real? No, for real? 1104 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 2: Three months? My toe I had a ruptured tendon. And 1105 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm thirty years older than you are. A son tough 1106 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 2: at that now. Yeah, I had a ruptured tendon to 1107 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 2: my foot. It turned out was I had a little 1108 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 2: bit of foot paint. Been doing that for a couple 1109 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 2: of months. But all good. You want to know, I 1110 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 2: don't want to hear about how hard is it when 1111 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,919 Speaker 2: you women give birth. You guys have for three months 1112 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 2: been on the air for a minute and a half. 1113 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 7: Were not going there. 1114 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 8: I missed you, and I host you to I haven't 1115 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 8: used my computer in so long that it decided right 1116 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 8: now is the time to update, so as I get 1117 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 8: myself organized here a little bit. 1118 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 2: By the way, if you're like, I'll give you a 1119 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 2: second to pause, because if you ever have to do 1120 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 2: this and take because like longer than three days it's 1121 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 2: Family Medical Leave Act kicks and then they tapp in 1122 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 2: your sick days that way. So I came back this morning, 1123 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 2: and I should have came come in like three hours earlier, 1124 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 2: because just to log back into email and get back 1125 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: like online in this monitor, it's a whole thing. It's 1126 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 2: like a whole thing out on maternity leak. I was 1127 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 2: gone non back. 1128 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 8: So okay, Well, while you were gone, I realized I 1129 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 8: have a tattoo because of one man in Cincinnati. 1130 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 2: Your tattoo lists up to this point, well, virgin skin. 1131 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 8: The only one I have is because of this one 1132 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 8: man in Cincinnati. Give me a hot second. We'll get there. 1133 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 8: We have things to debrief. Obviously, you saw the Super 1134 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 8: Bowl halftime announcement. 1135 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 2: We have to talk about that. 1136 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,760 Speaker 8: Talk about Taylor Swift, the biggest thing on the internet, 1137 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 8: maybe a little Cardi B and maybe one or two 1138 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 8: other things. So I realized this yesterday that I have 1139 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 8: a tattoo, the only one I've ever gotten, and if 1140 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 8: the invisible string theory exists, it has nothing to do 1141 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 8: with romance in my life apparently, and has everything to 1142 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 8: do with the Cincinnati Reds. Okay, after it didn't go 1143 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 8: well for us, last night, but I think we're gonna 1144 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 8: be patient with Tito. 1145 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe you got a twenty 1146 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 2: twenty five world champion. Maybe premature. 1147 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 8: No, this happened actually back in two thousand and eight, 1148 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 8: when I turned eighteen, after the Red Sox won the 1149 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 8: World Series, I got a matching tattoo with my best 1150 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 8: friend for the Red Sox. 1151 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 7: Do you know who managed the club at that time? 1152 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 8: Jerry Franco exactly came back around, started managing the Reds, 1153 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 8: took them to the playoffs in. 1154 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 2: Their first year. 1155 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 8: And who knew back when I was eighteen, I'm now 1156 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 8: thirty five. I got a tattoo that would eventually, in 1157 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:26,919 Speaker 8: some weird way. 1158 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 7: Time you back to Cincinnati. 1159 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 2: Oh cool, I thought you didn't have to to. I 1160 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 2: thought you said you had not to. 1161 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 8: You just it's on my foot, and I'm not like 1162 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 8: Rick Uchino, where I'll wear a funk sandal in public. 1163 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 2: I think there's a shot I can hear your little 1164 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 2: scooter rolling around in the background. It really does. 1165 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 6: So. 1166 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 8: Unfortunately, we took the l yesterday a little bummed about that. 1167 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 8: I'm sure a lot of Cincinnatians wear that scar. It 1168 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 8: just keeps us the wound that keeps opening. 1169 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 2: Do you watch lesson last night? I know what's I 1170 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 2: know your schedule. I know you get it to eight now. 1171 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 7: I don't even have cable to watch. 1172 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh right. 1173 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 8: What I do love about this, and I know we're 1174 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 8: forward thinking to opening day, is that we open against 1175 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 8: the Red Sox. 1176 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, so that'd be pretty Coqel. 1177 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 2: Twenty six, I think of March believe. Yeah, okay, let's 1178 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 2: talk about it. 1179 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 8: I am excited that Bad Bunny is doing the Super 1180 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 8: Bowl halftime show. 1181 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 2: Per usual, I got it so wrong. Was on your 1182 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 2: list at all? 1183 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 8: Not even not even in the nowhere in the alphabet. 1184 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 2: I have never seen a streak of someone Quite honestly, 1185 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 2: is this young lady here, my good friend Tiff Potter 1186 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 2: is incorrectly guessing who is going to be even the 1187 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 2: shortly give me five artists, not even anywhere near it. 1188 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 2: Bad Bunny would not be on it. No, I didn't 1189 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,479 Speaker 2: even think of that. 1190 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 8: I am per usual. Every decision comes with backlash. But overall, 1191 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 8: if you were entertained, not if you liked, but if 1192 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 8: you were entertained by Kendall Lamar in any way, then 1193 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 8: you will most certainly be entertained by Bad Bunny because 1194 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 8: he is just he's good like that. His shows are 1195 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 8: super energetic, so I have a feeling it'll be extremely entertaining. 1196 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 7: Will you understand all of it? No? 1197 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 8: And I thought that was a bold choice by jay Z. 1198 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 8: But you know, so far in the last couple of 1199 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 8: years since he took over, we had Rihanna, Usher Kendrick 1200 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 8: and now bad Money with Apple. 1201 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 2: What is the reaction, Ben you said some of it 1202 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 2: not good. As far as what catalog the fact that 1203 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 2: he's I think it's just do do people know him? 1204 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 8: And will they? Will they know the lyrics? Will they 1205 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 8: know the words? Just about everything he does is in Spanish. 1206 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 2: I did like. 1207 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 8: Puerto Rican So sorry if I forgot to mention that 1208 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 8: here he is after jay Z called him and made 1209 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 8: the announcement. Cool cool, Cool, Still doing the update on 1210 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 8: the computer. I'll work on that. But in the meantime, 1211 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 8: sing it. 1212 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 2: Not quite Other. 1213 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 8: Big things that happened while you were away and is 1214 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,479 Speaker 8: kind of bleeding into today. We are just hours away 1215 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 8: from a brand new Taylor Swift album and she is 1216 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 8: putting out her album tonight at midnight. Kiss one oh 1217 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 8: seven one has kind of been your home and your. 1218 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 4: Go to it's. 1219 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 2: It is so annoying the world's number one audio company. 1220 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 2: Just want to point that out. No, this is a 1221 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 2: user era. It has nothing to do with their company. 1222 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 8: It's all because I haven't used this computer since you've 1223 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 8: been gone, and it needed to update four hundred and 1224 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 8: seventy five things right before we went on there. 1225 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 2: Because you know what, it's just easy to throw the 1226 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 2: man under the bus. You take the bullet. I'm taking 1227 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 2: the bullet on this, but it's my fault. 1228 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 8: So album comes out Life of a show Girl tonight 1229 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 8: at midnight if you are a in person person. At 1230 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 8: seven am this morning, we kicked off our partnership with 1231 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 8: Kiss and high Ball Sincy, which is a bar right 1232 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 8: around the corner from Finley Market, we're playing every album 1233 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 8: back to back to back, leading all the way up 1234 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 8: to Life of a show Girl tonight at midnight. If 1235 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 8: you're like not for me, I I don't want to 1236 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 8: be in person. iHeartRadio and Kiss. One oh seven one 1237 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 8: are going to have exclusive content from Taylor. She's taking 1238 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 8: over our radio station tonight and she'll go through the album. 1239 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Track by track. We'll talk about it. 1240 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 8: So I think that this is going to be the 1241 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 8: biggest thing for the next probably week. 1242 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 7: I know it's my super. 1243 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 8: Bowl on my show and my radio station, and so 1244 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 8: therefore it will eventually bleed over to yours well. 1245 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 2: As a position to sit on my ass and soak 1246 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 2: in entertainment, because like I do right now, I will 1247 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 2: say that she has dominated that that sphere for sure, 1248 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 2: at least in my opinion. And I saw a little 1249 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 2: promo for her album where she's dressed as a showgirl 1250 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 2: and comes out over with a poster and like trips 1251 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 2: over them the lamplote, which I thought with Madie giggle 1252 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 2: because I love that self deprecating kind of you know, 1253 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 2: she's really good at that she is, and Life of 1254 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 2: a Showgirl is the title of the album. If I 1255 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 2: forgot to mention, she's dress as a show girl with 1256 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 2: a poster of her and then trips over a thing 1257 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 2: and then yeah. 1258 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 7: Ah my god, this laptop is really bothering me. 1259 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 1260 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: I could have prepared a little bit for this. 1261 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 7: We are just coming in real hot. 1262 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 2: I did my bid I'm here. 1263 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 8: Well, those are the bigger pop culture moments outside of that. 1264 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 8: Carti B and Nicki Minaj have really started getting into 1265 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 8: it on the internet. Now for the third day, let 1266 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 8: me give you a little bit of a brief history. 1267 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 8: Cardi B's album Am I the Drama came out last 1268 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 8: Friday because she has been taken over, might have been 1269 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 8: even the Friday before that. 1270 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 7: She's been taking over the last week or two. 1271 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 8: Nicki Minaj and her haven't gotten along in several years. 1272 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 8: And I think it's really because Nicki just likes to 1273 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 8: think that she is the queen of New York, the 1274 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 8: queen of the New York rapt scene. She thinks that 1275 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 8: Cardi B should bow down to her. Cardi B comes along. 1276 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 8: At first they tried to be friends, then things down 1277 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 8: the line ended up shifting, and then really ever since then, Nicki. 1278 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 2: Has had a lot to say about Carti. 1279 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 8: Carti I think has the upper hand in this kind 1280 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 8: of battle at the moment, because Nicki keeps bringing in 1281 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 8: the kids and started saying things on Twitter that I 1282 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 8: probably can can't even read out loud on this radio, 1283 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 8: probably don't want to get fired on our first day 1284 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 8: back together. So it finally got to the point where 1285 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 8: Carti had said, listen, like drop the address, like I'll 1286 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 8: come and show up wherever you are. She also had 1287 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 8: made some pretty bold claims about claims about Nicki on 1288 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 8: potentially having bipolar disorders and being addicted to drugs, And 1289 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 8: the only reason why I think there might be some 1290 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 8: validity to that now, granted, I don't know Nicki Minaj's 1291 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,439 Speaker 8: medical history, and I almost feel a little ridiculous talking 1292 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 8: about a rap beef on seven hundred wow, but it 1293 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 8: really is very big on the internet, and you. 1294 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 2: Might scroll past it, and I want to make sure 1295 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 2: you're in the living, big part of hip hop for 1296 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 2: a long time. You have that right. 1297 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 8: There's always beef right, and that's why I'm not surprised 1298 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 8: that her and Nicki go back and forth. 1299 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 2: It is what it is, that's our culture. So the 1300 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 2: only reason I think. 1301 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 8: There might be some validity to the mental health things 1302 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 8: that Carti said about Niki is because sometimes Nicki does 1303 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 8: come off as a little on the like unhinged side, 1304 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 8: like why are we even talking. 1305 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 2: About this right now? 1306 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 8: But again, I'm not naive to think that it isn't 1307 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 8: just all a part of the game, like no press 1308 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 8: is bad press. 1309 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 2: The thing I think it's I think a lot of 1310 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 2: this is pro wrestling. I think a lot of it 1311 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 2: is now I don't know when bullets fly, and that's 1312 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 2: you know that kind that's a different story entirely when 1313 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 2: there's actually, you know, someone dies, different stories. 1314 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 8: I don't think it would come to so Carti is 1315 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 8: gonna be in Sincy one time, but potentially two. So 1316 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 8: her tour comes to heritage in March. And she also 1317 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 8: is dating Stephan Diggs. Now, who does Stephan Diggs play 1318 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 8: for Patriots? Patriots come here on the weekend of Thanksgiving? Yes, 1319 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 8: so we could see maybe Carti could see Cardi here twice. 1320 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 2: Why would she she would come here? 1321 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 8: I think she wants to support Steph on she's pregnant 1322 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 8: with her fourth child. 1323 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it says, so we'll see what comes to that. 1324 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Shall we check to see if my laptop works. 1325 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see maybe maybe by Tuesday, we'll see. 1326 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 2: There's all the way is always Tuesday. 1327 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 7: There's always that. 1328 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 8: What I think that those are the big things, Cardi happened. 1329 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 8: I thought of you during the super Bowl halftime announcement. 1330 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 8: Taylor's coming out tonight. I have a tattoo back to 1331 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:12,439 Speaker 8: the super Bowl. 1332 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 2: Do you think there's gonna because I think a lot 1333 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 2: of people don't you know older like myself. I know, 1334 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 2: I think probably would recognize a couple of the songs, 1335 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 2: but I can't say I'm a bad bunny expert. I 1336 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 2: know he's Puerto Rican, but I wonder how much of 1337 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 2: a backlash there's going to be with that element because 1338 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 2: all those songs are in Spanish. With an American sport 1339 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 2: like football. Now, the NFL has made tremendous ord's trying 1340 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 2: to grow market share by having games in Dublin and 1341 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 2: in London and of course in South America. That's part 1342 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 2: of this. If you found football all, you know this 1343 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 2: can't possibly be surprised as they tried to expand. 1344 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 7: That was my question for you. 1345 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 8: Do you think that this is a little bit more 1346 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 8: of let's say, a power. 1347 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 2: Play by the NFL than it is anything else. I 1348 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 2: turned it off. 1349 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 7: It just keeps updating. 1350 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 2: No, I think they're trying to expand to younger audiences, 1351 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 2: and I think you're older and you're offended by this 1352 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 2: and want to see, you know, I don't know, Bruce 1353 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 2: Springsteen again or something like that. You're probably not going 1354 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 2: anytime soon because the money is in the younger demos, 1355 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 2: it's in gen z R audience. Isn't like even I 1356 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 2: would say, certainly. I don't want to discount you millennials, 1357 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 2: but I think it's about building a base with gen zers. 1358 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 2: And look at the flag football thing. It's interesting. They 1359 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 2: really lean the flag football so they can get more 1360 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 2: younger people, kids, young women to play and get invested 1361 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 2: in the game of football, so they become customers in 1362 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 2: the future. That's what this is all about. 1363 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 8: I think you make a great point. I do want 1364 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 8: to squeeze one or two more things in if we. 1365 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 7: Have the time. 1366 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 2: Do you have the sound for it? The audio? 1367 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 5: I do? 1368 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 2: Well, let's see. 1369 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 8: Let's see world famous Jane Goodall, Oh yeah, passed away 1370 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 8: yesterday at the age of ninety one. 1371 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,919 Speaker 2: That woman was working literally up until her death. 1372 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 8: She was on tour for her book that came out 1373 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 8: in twenty twenty one, and she had passed passed away 1374 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 8: while out on the tour. I guess of natural causes, 1375 01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 8: and let's see if this works. Nope, still doesn't work. 1376 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 2: That is one big gorilla. 1377 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 8: She was one of only eight people to be able 1378 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 8: to get a degree or a doctorate without having a 1379 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 8: college degree. And I don't know how that works, but 1380 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 8: I read that this morning the honorary then right, no, no, no, 1381 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 8: this is legitimate, Jeane Girdlea. You just get to skip ahead. 1382 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 2: You don't have to take biology one oh one, you 1383 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 2: don't have to take intro to psychology. 1384 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 8: I think it's because the woman literally lived in the 1385 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 8: woods with the monkeys on her own. I had seen 1386 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 8: a little bit of her documentary on Hulu. I recommend it. 1387 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 8: I don't think I ever finished it, but I remember 1388 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 8: being super intrigued by it. The woman was out in 1389 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 8: the jungle on her own when she was in her twenties. 1390 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 2: Didn't get her head ripped off or nothing. So some 1391 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 2: of these people are like, oh, they're just like us, 1392 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 2: wind up dying horrific death because the animals don't think 1393 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 2: that we're like them. They think they'll Loogan eventually go, 1394 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 2: you know what, this guy's pissing me off. I'm gonna 1395 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:57,919 Speaker 2: eat them, Jane, any primate, right, she really became one 1396 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 2: of the chimpanzees, and I think her research want it 1397 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 2: was known for just understanding them and then stopping the 1398 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,560 Speaker 2: use of the of chimpanzees for science, for entertainment and 1399 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,439 Speaker 2: stuff like that. Ninety one though, that's a good long 1400 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 2: life for someone who's but good. And there's somebody to 1401 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 2: be said about that too. Is we age? And you 1402 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 2: know when you retire and quit, there's some people at 1403 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 2: work and they just that's ther whole purpose in life, 1404 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 2: and they just keep on going. She's one of those. 1405 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 7: Yeah good. 1406 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 8: I have never felt like a segment dragged on for 1407 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 8: so long in my life. 1408 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 2: And keep waiting for your computer to wow. 1409 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 7: Like, I can't believe it. 1410 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 8: We've gone three weeks without talking, and I'm like, how 1411 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 8: do I do this job? 1412 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,960 Speaker 2: What's the wrong with that? Between my foot and your 1413 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 2: mystery tattoo? 1414 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 8: Oh my god, wait until you hear I'm about to 1415 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 8: book a forty five hundred dollars flight for someone that 1416 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 8: I'm dating four thousand. 1417 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 2: I was going to think that the tattoo would have 1418 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 2: been of this person, not Oh come on, you know me. 1419 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,439 Speaker 2: I know you, so you get but sometimes you get 1420 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 2: invested in something and you push all those chips in 1421 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 2: the middle of the table. You know, don't read the room. 1422 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 2: We commit, we go hard. Don't read the room. She's 1423 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 2: Tip Potter kiss one of seven one mornings, and she 1424 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 2: pops in Tuesday Thursdays with three things at the top 1425 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 2: of thet all right, appreciate you. Good to be back 1426 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 2: when you get a news update in and when we return. 1427 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of those red legs, what's next after there? Should 1428 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 2: I don't think stunning is the right word. I would 1429 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 2: say the sobering wake up call of what big payroll 1430 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 2: teams are going to do to you doesn't mean you 1431 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 2: can't get it done. Look at the Milwaukee Brewers, but 1432 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,640 Speaker 2: Red's got some work to do. The offseason chat with 1433 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 2: Jeff Cup from Lockdown. Reds just ahead on seven hundred WW. 1434 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 2: Since then, do you want to slow me back on 1435 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 2: seven hundred WW? That's what I said back on seven 1436 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,879 Speaker 2: hundred W dow Barring some ankle surgery, severed ten completely 1437 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 2: ruptured tendon that I'm dealing with, but you know what, 1438 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 2: that can be repaired. That can be Can the Reds 1439 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,680 Speaker 2: be repaired? That's the question now. Sunday we had champagne. 1440 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 2: The hangover lasted till Wednesday, then sobriety hit last night. 1441 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 2: He looked in the mirror and go, what the hell 1442 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 2: did I do when I was drinking champagne? Eight to 1443 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 2: four last night the final despite two early runs, they 1444 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 2: couldn't compete. The Cockerroaches have been exterminated outscore eighteen to nine, 1445 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 2: and the longest drought in professional sports continues. The agony 1446 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 2: of the Reds not advancing is going to be known 1447 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 2: at least another year on it As our buddy from Lockdown, 1448 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 2: Red's the only daily Reds podcast, that'd be Jeff Carr. 1449 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 2: He's gonna have a lot to talk about in the 1450 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 2: offseason starting today, Jeffrey, Welcome, Hi you Ben Sony. It's 1451 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:30,679 Speaker 2: been a wild ride. 1452 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 4: Like you mentioned, it felt like celebration turned to reality far, 1453 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 4: far too quick. But that's been the reality of Red's 1454 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 4: postseason baseball in the recent history. 1455 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 2: I know I'll be a little bit more optimistic probably here. 1456 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 2: I know that you look around the wrestling game and 1457 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 2: watching day baseball on the IR as I was watching 1458 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 2: Detroit in Cleveland. They're going to play a game three today. 1459 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 2: San Diego's at Chicago and the Cubbies. Hopefully we're gon 1460 01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 2: limit the Cubbies here San Diego and then Boston. New 1461 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 2: York was great game last night and he thought, well, 1462 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 2: can they go four for four? Can all four wild 1463 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 2: card games advanced to a pivotal Game three? And the 1464 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 2: answer was no. The Reds let us down. If any 1465 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 2: of those teams they'll face the Dodgers instead of US. 1466 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 2: I think that the Dodgers probably beat a lot of 1467 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 2: those teams, if not almost all those teams saved maybe 1468 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe New York or Boston. I think 1469 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 2: they could beat Cleveland. I think they could be Detroit. 1470 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 2: I think they could probably beat Chicago. It just happens 1471 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 2: we drew the Dodgers. That starting pitching is going to 1472 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: be so hard for anybody to be there. I mean, 1473 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 2: the way that Yamamoto and Blake Snell were both dealing, 1474 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 2: didn't feel like there was a whole lot of lineups 1475 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 2: that could really hang with them. It's just the pitching 1476 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 2: side of things for the Reds ended up letting them down, 1477 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 2: which was the big twist that we were all not expecting. 1478 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 4: In this story. 1479 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 2: But I agree with you. 1480 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 4: I think the Dodgers pitching really was the impressive part 1481 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 4: of this. Their lineup did what we all expected it today. 1482 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and they absolutely mowed him down. And then 1483 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 2: you look at the Dodgers and you watch how they played, 1484 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,559 Speaker 2: going all, how the hell could they be in the 1485 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,679 Speaker 2: wild the wild guard? How is that possible? 1486 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 4: There's a reason, especially they're in the wildcard, right, right, 1487 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,639 Speaker 4: It's just I mean, Philly and Milwaukee had great seasons. 1488 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 4: It's interesting because going into the year, the Dodgers over 1489 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,640 Speaker 4: under win total was at one hundred and three and 1490 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,680 Speaker 4: a half, so based on that, they really underachieved at 1491 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 4: ninety three. But boy, ninety three looks a lot better 1492 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 4: than eighty three if you're looking from the Reds point 1493 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 4: of view. 1494 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. The criticism was fast and furious, and 1495 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 2: that started with Tel getting the start. They worked Lodola 1496 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 2: out of the pen. I don't think he had like 1497 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 2: a dozen pitches maybe, And the question mark is, well, 1498 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 2: why are we saving Andrew Abbott for today? There is 1499 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:45,759 Speaker 2: no today? 1500 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 4: Right, I mean I didn't understand. I know that there 1501 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,760 Speaker 4: was a little bit of a discussion about short rest 1502 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 4: and things like that, but in a short playoff series. 1503 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 4: We talked many times this year about the fact that 1504 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 4: with Green, Lodolo and Abbot you feel really confident going 1505 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,680 Speaker 4: up against anybody. Well, in this series Green got was 1506 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,719 Speaker 4: tipping pitches or something like that and got a little 1507 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,799 Speaker 4: bit blinded by the like Nickelodolo threw fourteen total pitches 1508 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 4: and Andrew Rabbit threw zero of them. Those are the 1509 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,799 Speaker 4: three guys that you were expecting to be a huge 1510 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 4: reason why the Reds could compete with anybody, and quite frankly, 1511 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,719 Speaker 4: they were three of the least important players in this series, 1512 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 4: or at least you know, Green was one of the 1513 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,639 Speaker 4: most important as far as negatively, and then Nickelodolo and 1514 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 4: Andrew Rabbit were next to Superpluis. 1515 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you don't know what you're getting on Lego. 1516 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I was as shocked as anybody that Hunter 1517 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 2: Green had the outing that he did in Game one. Yeah. 1518 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he turned back the clock, but not in a 1519 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 4: great way. And I think it was immediately whenever he 1520 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 4: gave up the home run to Otani, he stopped being 1521 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 4: a pitcher and he went back to being a thrower. 1522 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,560 Speaker 4: And I think that's probably why, you know, Busseroni was 1523 01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 4: talking about he was tipping his pitches and all the 1524 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 4: other stuff. But quite frankly, us Reds fans know what 1525 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 4: Hunter Green looks like when he's pitching versus what he's 1526 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,719 Speaker 4: looks like when he's throwing. I mean, he wasn't able 1527 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 4: to use the splitter. He tried to throw it a 1528 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,759 Speaker 4: couple of times, and he spiked it in the ground 1529 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 4: and his slider was not landing for strikes. It was 1530 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 4: starting on the plate and breaking off the plate, so 1531 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 4: Dodger sitters knew they could lay off of it. And 1532 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 4: then whenever he would go to throw his fastball, it 1533 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,760 Speaker 4: just caught way too much of the plate. And so 1534 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 4: that was watching old Hunter Green pitch again. I think 1535 01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 4: part of it was it's like, man, this is his 1536 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 4: first playoff start, and then they add all of this 1537 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,679 Speaker 4: other stuff onto it. Oh, you know, hometown kid. He's 1538 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,720 Speaker 4: coming back home faced the team he watched growing up, 1539 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 4: and all this other stuff, and I think just everything 1540 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 4: just caught up to him the moment that show Heyo 1541 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 4: Tani hit that ball to the movie. 1542 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunter Green was obviously a lock in Game one, 1543 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 2: but Lodolo come out of the pen for a limited appearance, 1544 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 2: and then Abbott waited till today. He was going to 1545 01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,959 Speaker 2: throw him today and there was no today. There's only yesterday. 1546 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 2: Did Tito explain that zach ly telstar. 1547 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 4: I didn't hear like specifically. I think they cited the 1548 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 4: short rest for Andrew Rabbit, but I didn't hear like 1549 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 4: specifically why it was the Tel But I just find 1550 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:21,200 Speaker 4: it so weird funny, especially the short outing for Nickolodolo. Okay, 1551 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,400 Speaker 4: if he throws in relief on Sunday and you want 1552 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 4: to keep him in that role for some reason, fine, 1553 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 4: but throw him for at least two any at least 1554 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 4: two or three innies. He could totally do that. 1555 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 2: All right. So the Reds limp home and a lot 1556 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 2: of soul searching can be done the offseason. And for 1557 01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 2: those who are like, okay, well here we go again. 1558 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 2: You know, Burrow goes down in the injury, the Bengals 1559 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 2: are done. How many days till opening day? The Reds 1560 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 2: disappointed they get the only team in the wild card. 1561 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 2: He gets swept as our Cincinnati Reds. The misery continues 1562 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,759 Speaker 2: for another year. Haven't even tasted the postseason. Postseason success 1563 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 2: at this point. Keep in mind, and you mentioned Hunter Green, 1564 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,120 Speaker 2: very young roster, A lot of guys have not seen 1565 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 2: postseason play, and a lot of those guys, wilted I 1566 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 2: thought it was surprising to show that contrast, as a 1567 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 2: guy like Hunter Green thought, man, he's gonna go out 1568 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,439 Speaker 2: there and just dominate. He did not, could barely get 1569 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 2: out of the first inning. It is a guy in 1570 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 2: Matt McClain whose defense has been spectacular all season. His 1571 01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 2: bat has been absent for most of the season, been 1572 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 2: terrible at the plate. Had it not been for his glove, 1573 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 2: he would have been sent back down, I would think, 1574 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 2: or at least at least benched at the very least. 1575 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 2: And yet he comes out and he smokes a double. 1576 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 2: When is the last time he got a hit, let 1577 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 2: alone a double. He played pretty well, So you know, 1578 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 2: it's about getting those experience, those moments of experience, I 1579 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 2: think in the postseason, Jeff, and then of course we'll 1580 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 2: talk about this in a minute, that's him adding some pieces. 1581 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,680 Speaker 2: But the I think the youngness of this team, the 1582 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 2: youth of this club really showed up. 1583 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's anything that I can glean from the 1584 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 4: fact that they just kind of. 1585 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 2: Got dog walked by the Dodgers. 1586 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 4: That now they can at least draw from this experience. 1587 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 4: They showed up and they did the thing. You know, 1588 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,920 Speaker 4: everybody was saying they don't believe in him and all 1589 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 4: this other stuff, and they showed why nobody believed them 1590 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 4: because they got ran over by the Dodgers. And I 1591 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 4: think that that's actually going to be a positive. They're 1592 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 4: going to get to a point next year where maybe 1593 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 4: they hit some struggles and they can draw back on 1594 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,599 Speaker 4: this season where you know, the whole cockroaches thing, which 1595 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 4: quite frankly, I'm kind of glad that's done. 1596 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,680 Speaker 2: Let's do something else next year. I don't love that Moniker. 1597 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 6: But I get it. 1598 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 2: I understand it's thirty. It's dirty, I suppose, but okay, 1599 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,599 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it took the Mets to screw 1600 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 2: things up for you to get in. It's not like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1601 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,679 Speaker 2: I know what's in Milwaukee. But it's not like Milwaukee 1602 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 2: is playing all their starters anyway. They're resting up for 1603 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 2: a long playoff run. So you know, way, whatever helps 1604 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 2: you get up the next day and get motivated, that's fine, right. 1605 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,559 Speaker 4: But the good news is they can draw on this 1606 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 4: experience for next year, and because they know that playoffs 1607 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,639 Speaker 4: baseball sounds different. But you know, once you get into 1608 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 4: inning two, inning three, inning four, there's still three outs, 1609 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 4: there's still three strikes, there's still four balls, and there's 1610 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 4: still twenty seven ounces. You got to get on the opponent. 1611 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, it's the same 1612 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 4: baseball game you've been playing all your life. And I 1613 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 4: think that that, more than anything, is going to be 1614 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 4: such a huge, a huge lesson for this team moving 1615 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,720 Speaker 4: into an offseason that you know, they should be full 1616 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 4: of lessons based on what's happened this year and different 1617 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 4: things that they need to answer before twenty twenty six 1618 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 4: gets going. 1619 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 2: All right, how much of this then is going to 1620 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,520 Speaker 2: be turned towards the front office and this offseason Terry Francona, 1621 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 2: despite the criticism about Zach Lettel, despite some of the 1622 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 2: criticisms done, like, as a Hall of Fame manager, you 1623 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,600 Speaker 2: can't get better than Terry Francona. He got you to 1624 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 2: the postseason, something the Reds haven't tasted a long time. 1625 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 2: At the same time, now the front office has to 1626 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 2: give an ownership has to give Terry Francona something to 1627 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 2: play with. You know, a lot is made about payrolls, 1628 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 2: and we've always heard about is a three hundred and 1629 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 2: fifty million dollar Dodger payroll, Dodger payroll, this huge Dodger peril. Meanwhile, 1630 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 2: they're also a wildcard team. So how much of the 1631 01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,000 Speaker 2: cry about payroll disparity and that we're among the lowest 1632 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,760 Speaker 2: MLBA is really relevant in this case? How much of 1633 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 2: that do you weigh on payroll? 1634 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,000 Speaker 4: This loss I don't put as much as other people do. 1635 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,759 Speaker 4: I mean, think about it too, like the Mets actually 1636 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 4: technically had a bigger payroll than the Dodgers did, and 1637 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 4: they collapsed entirely and didn't make the playoffs. So I 1638 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 4: don't think it is, as you know, one for one, 1639 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 4: indicative of success, but I certainly think it would help. 1640 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,200 Speaker 4: At the same point, there were different I saw a 1641 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 4: post that had to do with peers of payroll, and 1642 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 4: the Reds are in the bottom tier, and they've been 1643 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 4: in the bottom tier for a long time. It just 1644 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,640 Speaker 4: feels like if they put a little bit more, not 1645 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 4: saying they got to put one hundred and fifty million 1646 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,760 Speaker 4: dollars more, but like just a little bit more, maybe 1647 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 4: twenty thirty million more into the payroll than what they 1648 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 4: did this past year, then they will get everything that 1649 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 4: they need. And I mean, you're talking about twenty four 1650 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 4: million coming off the books for Nick Martinez. You're talking 1651 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,720 Speaker 4: about a couple of million more for some of the 1652 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 4: other guys that'll be leaving via free agency from the bullpen. 1653 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 4: Obviously those guys need to be replaced, but it feels 1654 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 4: like they're going to have somewhere between thirty and thirty 1655 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 4: five million from what they spent this year to spend 1656 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 4: on free agents and arbitration contracts, and so if they 1657 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 4: add a little bit more to that, they could really 1658 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 4: go for something here, including you know everyone's favorite son 1659 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,559 Speaker 4: from Middletown, Kylee Shwarber. 1660 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's a college Swarber there. On the other 1661 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,719 Speaker 2: high side, a lot was put on someone like Ellie 1662 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 2: de la Cruz. I mean, we heard the story last 1663 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,720 Speaker 2: night about Rick Stowe giving him number forty four because 1664 01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 2: you run out of Eric Davis. I'll tell you what. 1665 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 2: I saw Eric Davis as his prime and you did too. 1666 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 2: Ellie da la Cruz is not quite Eric Davis yet. 1667 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,840 Speaker 4: No he's not. And that was the other part of 1668 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 4: this Dodgers series that surprised me because it looked like 1669 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 4: down the stretch he was getting the second wind. That 1670 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 4: looked as if he was ready for the big for 1671 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 4: the big stage here again. And we've seen him play 1672 01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 4: very well against the Dodgers, but the Dodgers have completely 1673 01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 4: shut him down this year. And then the two game 1674 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 4: Wildcard series, really, I mean, he was a non factor. 1675 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 4: He was on base a couple of times in the 1676 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,559 Speaker 4: first game by a walk and then he had a 1677 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 4: fielders choice that got an rv I. But that's it. 1678 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 4: Like there was no impactful moment for Elie de la Cruz, 1679 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 4: especially there in Game two where he comes up in 1680 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 4: the sixth thenning with the bases loaded, and it feels 1681 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 4: like this is a moment where he can make a 1682 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 4: name for himself, and he struck out, and I think 1683 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,559 Speaker 4: that there's definitely a lot that he can glean. He's 1684 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 4: still very early on in his career, but yeah, you're right. 1685 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,600 Speaker 4: I mean he's not there yet. He still remains a 1686 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 4: bunch of potential rather than approven product. 1687 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a number of young guys in this roster 1688 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 2: that that pop out at you, going, well, there's a 1689 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 2: guy to build round one of those guys. I've been 1690 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,120 Speaker 2: joined to watch the season of Sales Stewart, and I 1691 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,240 Speaker 2: know he took it hard. He took it on himself, 1692 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 2: saying we lost that game because of my errand throw. 1693 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 2: But keep in mind he got up in a couple 1694 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,920 Speaker 2: of clutch hits for that matter, and some just smart 1695 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,640 Speaker 2: baseball plays. I like Sales Stewart a lot, and I 1696 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,760 Speaker 2: look at him and go, Okay, there's a guy that's 1697 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 2: going to be a cornerstone for a while. 1698 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like there might be a dozen things 1699 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 4: that open on the list before I get to South 1700 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 4: Stewart for that game last night. I do really like 1701 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,360 Speaker 4: what he brings to the table. He's got so much 1702 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,519 Speaker 4: confidence when he steps into the box. I mean, you 1703 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 4: saw it. Yamamoto was just mowing people down, but every 1704 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 4: time salth Stewart stepped in it was very good at back. 1705 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,120 Speaker 4: It did strike out once, but a couple of very 1706 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,280 Speaker 4: impactful hits in this game. And I really like what 1707 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,439 Speaker 4: sal brings to this team. I mean, he got caught 1708 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 4: up in the beginning of September and he provided a 1709 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 4: couple of homers for him down the stretch. Didn't look like, 1710 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 4: you know, oh hey kid, welcome to the big leagues. 1711 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 4: By the way, we're in a pennant race, and don't 1712 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,240 Speaker 4: mess anything up here. And he didn't. He looked fantastic, 1713 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 4: and he's got a great personality to root for too. 1714 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 4: I just I really hope that they commit to one 1715 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,280 Speaker 4: position with him, because they keep doing this thing where, 1716 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 4: you know, so they get somebody on the roster and 1717 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,240 Speaker 4: they're like, oh, well he could play anything. It's like, well, 1718 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,960 Speaker 4: give him, give him a position, and I feel like 1719 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 4: he looked good at first. He's looked good at third 1720 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 4: base in his minor league career as well. There's gonna 1721 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,599 Speaker 4: be so many options open to this front office this 1722 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,360 Speaker 4: off season because of guys like South Stewart, but they've 1723 01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,200 Speaker 4: really got to make sure that they have a plane 1724 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,280 Speaker 4: in place next year and not this current roster that 1725 01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 4: feels like it has a whole bunch of square pegs 1726 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 4: for square holes. But there's only so many holes you 1727 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,759 Speaker 4: can fill, and they've got far too many pegs. 1728 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Sales Stewart also because he looks like 1729 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,639 Speaker 2: a lot like a young Al Capone. He's Jeff Carr 1730 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:35,200 Speaker 2: with locked on Reds this morning, wrapping up the red 1731 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,599 Speaker 2: season and not ending the way we hoped or wanted. 1732 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,240 Speaker 2: But the reality is you got bum rushed by the 1733 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 2: La Dodgers, who are a much much better team than 1734 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 2: their position, and seating would lead you to believior just 1735 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 2: to look off the street. But I think the Dodgers 1736 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 2: are gonna they may have a good chance of going 1737 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 2: from a wild card to World Series back to back 1738 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,320 Speaker 2: champions because they look that damn good. They just continue 1739 01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,719 Speaker 2: to come at you with play after play after player, 1740 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 2: and you know that too. Nothing lead that they had 1741 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 2: last night early like that, Well, they're going to have 1742 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 2: to probably quadruple that if they got a chance down 1743 01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 2: the stretch, they did not, And long about after what 1744 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,120 Speaker 2: the fourth or fifth inning, they started having to play 1745 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 2: from behind, and that's not a good when you're in 1746 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,640 Speaker 2: the position the Cincinnati Reds are, but got to the postseason. 1747 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,679 Speaker 2: The goal next season is going to go much much 1748 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 2: deeper in the playoffs. And how much of that is 1749 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 2: retaining some of the core guys you mentioned We're gonna 1750 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,080 Speaker 2: lose some guys in free agency, which all teams do, 1751 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 2: but also what they add, what do you think happens 1752 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 2: in the next what four and a half five months here? 1753 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 4: I think it really depends on how concrete a position 1754 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 4: they believe. Elie de la Cruz has a shortstop, If 1755 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 4: they're going to move him to the outfield or something 1756 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,720 Speaker 4: like that, that would open up more opportunities for enfielders. 1757 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 4: But it feels like this team is full of infielders 1758 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 4: and they've tried to move some to the outfield and 1759 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,519 Speaker 4: it just doesn't necessarily work. And they don't have a 1760 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 4: whole lot of outfielders right now, Like Austin Hayes has 1761 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 4: a mutual option. I'm not sure how that one's going 1762 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,800 Speaker 4: to go because the season has been sort of up 1763 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,719 Speaker 4: and down for Austin Hey. There's a lot of injuries, 1764 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 4: some production, but none of it's super consistent, and I 1765 01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,040 Speaker 4: don't think that the Reds are going to pick up 1766 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,240 Speaker 4: the mutual side of that option. Then you have Miguel 1767 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,679 Speaker 4: Andrewharr who came over here from the A's and he's 1768 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 4: played the outfield a lot in his career. It's just 1769 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 4: he had a leg injury that was limiting him to 1770 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 4: DH only and so is he going to get healthy 1771 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,320 Speaker 4: in this offseason? Do you commit to him playing in 1772 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 4: the outfield for a little bit, maybe give him a 1773 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 4: one year proven deal or something like that. There's a 1774 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,799 Speaker 4: lot of interesting options that they currently have in the house. 1775 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 4: But I also would really and the goal for me 1776 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 4: for Nick Crawl because there is you mentioned this early 1777 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,120 Speaker 4: on when we started talking like how much pressure shifts 1778 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,679 Speaker 4: to the front office. This has to be the most 1779 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,320 Speaker 4: pressure packed off season for Nick Crawl because they just 1780 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,280 Speaker 4: showed that they could do this with the roster that 1781 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 4: they got, but they don't have enough to go much 1782 01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 4: further than where they got, and they've got to get 1783 01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 4: some help. I think that the first thing he's got 1784 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 4: to look at is somebody who can be an anchor 1785 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 4: for this lineup. There was nobody in this lineup at 1786 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,719 Speaker 4: any point this season that was a consistent like when 1787 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 4: we need a hit, he's going to give it to us, 1788 01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,200 Speaker 4: and when we need an RBI, he's going to give 1789 01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 4: it to us. They've got to go find that guy, 1790 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 4: whether he's an outfielder or a d H or whatever 1791 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:24,280 Speaker 4: he might be, or whether his name rhymes with Blorber. 1792 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 4: I think that that was a Borber, But you know, 1793 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,479 Speaker 4: whether that is the option or not, he's got to 1794 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 4: figure that out because there's definitely some boopen needs that 1795 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 4: he has, and you could argue that there's definitely some 1796 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,760 Speaker 4: needs there on the bench as well. What is Will 1797 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 4: Benson to this team? 1798 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:46,759 Speaker 2: Is scie? 1799 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,920 Speaker 4: Are we going to run it back with Santiagos? 1800 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 1: Now? 1801 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,240 Speaker 4: Please don't? I really don't want that to be the 1802 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 4: answer is yes. But there's so many different answers that 1803 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,760 Speaker 4: Nick Call needs to give. But the first one is 1804 01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,679 Speaker 4: who's anchoring this lineup next year? 1805 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 2: It's a good question. We'll pick it up again. In 1806 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,519 Speaker 2: just a few months. Jeff Carr always enjoyed our chats 1807 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,479 Speaker 2: on Monday, kind of recap in the weekend, look at 1808 01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,600 Speaker 2: a week aheads, and hopefully we'll both be around in 1809 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,160 Speaker 2: a few months to be able to do that, Jeff 1810 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 2: Carr Lockdown ORIDGS only Daily Reads podcast, are gonna have 1811 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,560 Speaker 2: a lot to talk about in the next four or 1812 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 2: five months, for sure, before things start ramping up out 1813 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,720 Speaker 2: a goodyear and then the twenty twenty sixth version of 1814 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 2: this team comes to fruition, and I think we have 1815 01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,839 Speaker 2: reason to be optimistic and excited. Provide to the front office, 1816 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,519 Speaker 2: get some critical pieces in there. Jeff, have a great offseason, 1817 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 2: all the best. I've been appreciating you all these. 1818 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,200 Speaker 4: Months, Bunby, appreciate you. 1819 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 2: Go right, all right, let's get a time out in 1820 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:39,800 Speaker 2: Sloaney back on seven hundred. The Reds are dead, but 1821 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,720 Speaker 2: I'm alive, apparently barely. Some healthish look get into that 1822 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,840 Speaker 2: coming up too, and how about some news first though, 1823 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:48,639 Speaker 2: I'm seven hundred. 1824 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 6: W jeez, the Princess of property, the Queen of closings. 1825 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,759 Speaker 2: But touch us some deals. 1826 01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,720 Speaker 1: It's realistic. 1827 01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 6: What's Michelle Sloan all hal the bestest Remax time agent 1828 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,640 Speaker 6: I've ever met on seven hundred wl W. 1829 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 2: All right back after an extended hiatus. Here my nurse 1830 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,479 Speaker 2: and wife, Michelle Sloan try to show this morning back 1831 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 2: into the regular groove. Here we go. What's going on? 1832 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. 1833 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 7: We've just spent the last three weeks together. I have 1834 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:26,559 Speaker 7: nothing more. 1835 01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,240 Speaker 2: Two weeks in two three days. I don't know, but 1836 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 2: so yeah, hey, you know what, it'll be your turn 1837 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,800 Speaker 2: at some point. Of course, of course, then I got 1838 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 2: to cart your ass around. 1839 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, well we have it is. We have another three 1840 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,479 Speaker 7: weeks of non weight bearing. 1841 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,160 Speaker 2: So anyway, long story short, and it's good to be back. 1842 01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,400 Speaker 2: I said's great to be out of the house as 1843 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,320 Speaker 2: someone that used to sitting around as long as I've 1844 01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,840 Speaker 2: been sitting around. Went in for some ankle surgery. Had 1845 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 2: a bone that was rubbing on a tendon in my 1846 01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,599 Speaker 2: right foot, and it turned out that I've been walking 1847 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 2: around all summer on a severed tendon. And that was 1848 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 2: the first news the surgeon told me when I got out. 1849 01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 2: She said, yeah, you severed your tendon completely. Oh okay, so. 1850 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 7: It was a lot worse thanur. 1851 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 2: So, yeah, she's in her while sew and everything back 1852 01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 2: together and sewing it to another tendon and stuff. 1853 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,639 Speaker 7: So anyway, yeah, I was sitting in the waiting room. 1854 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:23,479 Speaker 7: It was supposed to be an hour surgery. After ninety minutes, 1855 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 7: here we go. I'm like, okay, there's it wasn't really worried, No, 1856 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 7: I mean it was worse. 1857 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, as I said, you don't people like, 1858 01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,639 Speaker 2: oh my god, it must be terrible. Look, there's people 1859 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,479 Speaker 2: with far worse stuff in the world, and I've seen 1860 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,479 Speaker 2: it firsthand, family friends, close friends that and God bless 1861 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:43,920 Speaker 2: you if you're going through that now. So what I 1862 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,880 Speaker 2: had can be fixed. There's a lot of people who 1863 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,120 Speaker 2: don't have a remedy for that. So more prayers to 1864 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,639 Speaker 2: you than to me. So and when the doctor, I'm lucky, 1865 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:52,559 Speaker 2: I can get this fixed. 1866 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 7: She just she when I met with the doctor before 1867 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,880 Speaker 7: you were out of anesthesia and everything, she just she 1868 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,040 Speaker 7: just put her head down and shook her head with 1869 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 7: her hand on her head, going, oh my gosh. It 1870 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 7: was a mess when I got in there. 1871 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:06,719 Speaker 2: Mess. 1872 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 7: It was an absolute mess. Two inches of the tender. 1873 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 2: She said, you didn't do feel any pain? What's like, 1874 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,720 Speaker 2: I mean, hurt a little bit. She goes well with 1875 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,599 Speaker 2: a rete, it should have been a lot more painful than. 1876 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, and your bone spur was three centimeters. I was 1877 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 7: looking on my hand trying to figure out what three 1878 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 7: centimeters looks like. 1879 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't roll into the doctor until it's fallen off 1880 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:24,800 Speaker 2: at this point. 1881 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:26,720 Speaker 4: What you are? 1882 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly right? 1883 01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 2: All right? So yeah, my wife Michelle's driving me around, 1884 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,320 Speaker 2: which is so because she likes to sleep in until 1885 01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 2: the ungodly hour like seven am. I know, and I'm 1886 01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,760 Speaker 2: in much older than that, so God bless you. She's 1887 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 2: going to be driving a. 1888 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 7: Knee scooter. 1889 01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,360 Speaker 2: Scooter's all good, so he's pretty fast on that. Doctor 1890 01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:53,360 Speaker 2: Samantha Baker at christ she's great. Yeah, I it was awesome. 1891 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,839 Speaker 2: What's going on in the world of real estate? Although 1892 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,720 Speaker 2: I suppose we should talk more healthcare related stuff at 1893 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 2: this point. I know the government should down. Is that 1894 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:01,479 Speaker 2: affecting things at all? 1895 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,040 Speaker 7: It is? Yeah, absolutely, it's going to slow things down, 1896 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:09,560 Speaker 7: and depending on how long the government shut down lasts, 1897 01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,599 Speaker 7: the impact on real estate could certainly take a while. 1898 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,879 Speaker 7: It's going to delay some transactions, so if you're planning 1899 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,840 Speaker 7: to close in the next two weeks, it may be delayed. 1900 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 7: So we're going to have to have a lot of patients. 1901 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 7: If you're a buyer, if you're a seller, if you 1902 01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:33,040 Speaker 7: have plans to move, if you have movers scheduled, it 1903 01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:36,519 Speaker 7: may be completely out of your hands. If you're waiting 1904 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:41,120 Speaker 7: on some federal funding. That would be your government backed loans. 1905 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 7: Federal Housing Administration, the FAHA loans, the VA loans, USDA 1906 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:53,839 Speaker 7: loans are all vulnerable for being slowed down during this process. 1907 01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:55,720 Speaker 2: Not stop, but slowed, just. 1908 01:30:55,720 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 7: Slowed because they're taking about half of the employees and 1909 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 7: they're furloughing them, got it, so the other half will 1910 01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:09,400 Speaker 7: be doing double duty. And so eventually, eventually it will close, 1911 01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:13,040 Speaker 7: the paperwork will go through. But yeah, it's it's going 1912 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,680 Speaker 7: to take a minute. And I think that everybody's just 1913 01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 7: got to be aware. 1914 01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 2: It's just enough to make it so inconvenient. It upsets 1915 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 2: you about the government showdown for the now. If you're 1916 01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,360 Speaker 2: going through it, it's you know, life and death, because 1917 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,320 Speaker 2: if you think about when we just bought a house, right, okay, 1918 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 2: so you have to sell your house to buy the 1919 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,360 Speaker 2: new house, and then that person's buying a house, and 1920 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:37,840 Speaker 2: if one person in that chain has an FHA or 1921 01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,519 Speaker 2: VA long or something like that, then that could come 1922 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 2: everything up and screw things up just enough to slow 1923 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,439 Speaker 2: it down to a point where you're losing a lot 1924 01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,920 Speaker 2: of sleep over it, which is exactly what they wanted. 1925 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,639 Speaker 2: I was pointing out the first half of the show. 1926 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,720 Speaker 2: But you know, the war of the government shutdown and 1927 01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,559 Speaker 2: who's really the blame here, And the fact of the 1928 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:58,680 Speaker 2: matter is it's politics, right, So roughly you think it's 1929 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,679 Speaker 2: a lot more. But for total federal spending, only eight 1930 01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,519 Speaker 2: percent of the government to shut down and what they 1931 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 2: call non essential role, so ninety two percent of the 1932 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,680 Speaker 2: government according to Democrats and Republicans who are empower may 1933 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 2: I point out think that ninety two percent of governments 1934 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 2: essential what gets shut down museums, national parks, the FHA, 1935 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,120 Speaker 2: loans get slowed down, all that stuff. To make you squeeze. 1936 01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,639 Speaker 2: You know, it's still going on though, But the Army, 1937 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:27,639 Speaker 2: the Navy Air Force game on Saturday, just. 1938 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 1: To show you, like, well, you know what we want 1939 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,080 Speaker 1: people to be, we don't want to be. You want 1940 01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 1: to get people upset, start cutting the Medicare and Social 1941 01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 1: Security payments. But they will do it because this is politics, 1942 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:40,200 Speaker 1: it's not reality. 1943 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,599 Speaker 7: There are a lot of employees who have to there. 1944 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,639 Speaker 7: Essential employees have to report to work, but they're not 1945 01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,599 Speaker 7: going to be getting a paycheck until all this is over. 1946 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,720 Speaker 7: Now they will get back paid. Don't get the back pay. 1947 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to go that long. It never does. But 1948 01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,840 Speaker 2: how many longest one we had was twenty eight days 1949 01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,720 Speaker 2: or something, and that's when people started to feel the pain. 1950 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,839 Speaker 2: You get paid every two weeks, and that's what happens. 1951 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,160 Speaker 2: So you really wanted to knock the stuff off. You 1952 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:06,599 Speaker 2: know what you do is you just wouldn't pay these 1953 01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:10,400 Speaker 2: bums in Congress, the executive branch, the judiciary, and the 1954 01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:14,479 Speaker 2: legislative branch is simply cut their benefits off and see 1955 01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:14,920 Speaker 2: how they like. 1956 01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:15,120 Speaker 4: It. 1957 01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:16,720 Speaker 2: Wouldn't have any shutdowns. 1958 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,200 Speaker 7: When we go back to the real estate issues, if 1959 01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 7: you are a government employee and you're in the process 1960 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,559 Speaker 7: of buying a home and you don't have any income 1961 01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:31,200 Speaker 7: coming in, there's a good chance that that loan can't 1962 01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,680 Speaker 7: close until your money is you know, until you get 1963 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:34,559 Speaker 7: all of your money. 1964 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:35,200 Speaker 4: Now. 1965 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 7: Of course, there are ways to get around it, because 1966 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,920 Speaker 7: we know that eventually you'll get paid. 1967 01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, But and. 1968 01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,920 Speaker 7: Then the government employees are very concerned about being able 1969 01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,120 Speaker 7: to make their mortgage. And if you're in that vote 1970 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,559 Speaker 7: and you don't know if you're going to be able 1971 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,920 Speaker 7: to make your mortgage, if it does last for that 1972 01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:55,320 Speaker 7: long a thirty days or more, you may ask for 1973 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:59,720 Speaker 7: an extension. I think most lenders are going to They're 1974 01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,760 Speaker 7: going to understand the situation, and as long as you've 1975 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,879 Speaker 7: been doing a really good job of making your payments 1976 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:11,320 Speaker 7: on time, you should be fine. But overall, it's it's 1977 01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,280 Speaker 7: gonna slow down. We don't need any more slow downs 1978 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,040 Speaker 7: in the real estate industry right now. We just don't 1979 01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,479 Speaker 7: need it. Because interest rates have been so high, they're 1980 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,719 Speaker 7: starting to come down. They're supposed to come down even further. 1981 01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,440 Speaker 7: Everybody there. It's interesting because I keep hearing this recurring 1982 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,760 Speaker 7: buyers saying, I think the interest rates are going to 1983 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:31,519 Speaker 7: come down to three. 1984 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,160 Speaker 2: Persons, So people wait to go wait, come back. 1985 01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:39,439 Speaker 7: And you know, there's I absolutely believe that if you 1986 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,240 Speaker 7: can afford to go ahead and buy, knowing all of 1987 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,120 Speaker 7: this and having all of the information, go ahead and 1988 01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:50,080 Speaker 7: move forward if you can. And there are a lot 1989 01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,880 Speaker 7: of sellers out there right now who have been on 1990 01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:57,960 Speaker 7: the market for two, three, four, five weeks, and those 1991 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,920 Speaker 7: sellers are starting to get a little nervous, a little 1992 01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:05,120 Speaker 7: bit antsy, they are more willing to negotiate. So now, 1993 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:09,040 Speaker 7: as a buyer, there are opportunities that you have not 1994 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:13,280 Speaker 7: had for years. For years, it's been a seller's market. 1995 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 7: Now the market is kind of it's moving in a 1996 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:21,160 Speaker 7: direction that it's more of an even playing field, and 1997 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:25,960 Speaker 7: buyers have opportunities. Buyers have opportunities. Now, I'm never going 1998 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 7: to tell a buyer to go in and do that 1999 01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,799 Speaker 7: low ball thing go down like twenty thirty forty thousand dollars. 2000 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:36,559 Speaker 7: You're only going to make the seller really mad, and 2001 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:41,000 Speaker 7: you're not being realistic. Let's be realistic. I know everybody's 2002 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 7: looks for a deal, but I personally think that there 2003 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:50,479 Speaker 7: are opportunities. There are always opportunities in any situation. You know, 2004 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,840 Speaker 7: when the stock market goes one way or another, there's opportunities. 2005 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:58,719 Speaker 7: Same thing with real estate. This shutdown of the government 2006 01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,479 Speaker 7: could provide some opportunities for some people. It can also 2007 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:03,680 Speaker 7: provide a lot of. 2008 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:04,760 Speaker 2: But it isn't a big problem. 2009 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:09,200 Speaker 7: Still inventory though we have inventory, We do have some inventory. 2010 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,120 Speaker 2: Last week you said we had no inventory. Now this 2011 01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:12,040 Speaker 2: week we got inventory. 2012 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,200 Speaker 7: What do you mean we haven't talked about real estate 2013 01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 7: for three weeks. 2014 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,800 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, it's three weeks later. What happened? What kind 2015 01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 2: of drugs are you giving me this recovery? 2016 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:20,600 Speaker 5: You know? 2017 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:22,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, drugs are good. 2018 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,759 Speaker 2: Three weeks later? Yeah, the hell's going on? I haven't 2019 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,800 Speaker 2: talked on this channel. Yeah, and now too. Yeah, and 2020 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,160 Speaker 2: there's some more inventory. It's certainly not there where you 2021 01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:33,760 Speaker 2: need to be, but there is. So there are people 2022 01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,479 Speaker 2: waiting for more deals, is what you're Saying's like, I 2023 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,800 Speaker 2: can get better if I sign, but you could always 2024 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,439 Speaker 2: refinance later too, right of course, and the property you want. 2025 01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,280 Speaker 7: And right now, the interest rate is around six point 2026 01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,519 Speaker 7: three five when I looked yesterday. That's pretty good because 2027 01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:49,880 Speaker 7: we were around seven percent. 2028 01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,800 Speaker 2: How long it's good. People are waiting to get back 2029 01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,280 Speaker 2: down to the glory days of sub three percent. It's 2030 01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 2: gonna be like ten years, isn't it. 2031 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,439 Speaker 7: I don't think you'll ever see that again, because it 2032 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,400 Speaker 7: really it's what they say, it really mess stuff. I mean, 2033 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,719 Speaker 7: I don't know, I'll never say never. 2034 01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 2: What did it mess up? You said it was gonna mess. 2035 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:08,920 Speaker 7: Well, because there's so many people that are still sitting 2036 01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,400 Speaker 7: on the sidelines with a three percent mortgage saying I'm 2037 01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:12,240 Speaker 7: not giving that up. 2038 01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know so paid. 2039 01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,439 Speaker 7: Many people are staying in their home so much longer 2040 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,439 Speaker 7: because they have that low mortgage rate. So that's how 2041 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:23,559 Speaker 7: it messed up things. Is like everybody felt like they're 2042 01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,720 Speaker 7: in a standstill and you know you're never going to 2043 01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:29,040 Speaker 7: see those rates again. It was like we've talked about it. 2044 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,240 Speaker 7: It's like free money, you know, three percent mortgage, are 2045 01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:32,639 Speaker 7: you kidding? 2046 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,959 Speaker 2: I remembers locking into like two seven five or something ridiculous. 2047 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,880 Speaker 7: And there are some people who they are milking every 2048 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,040 Speaker 7: bit of that. You know, they're not paying it off 2049 01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:41,760 Speaker 7: because they're like. 2050 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,840 Speaker 2: Well, at some point, you know, you either move because 2051 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,519 Speaker 2: of a job or because you've got to move, or 2052 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:52,280 Speaker 2: you you know, you wind up dying yourself at that point. 2053 01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,680 Speaker 2: But that's a long time though. That's that's glacial in 2054 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,719 Speaker 2: terms of what you guys do. Also when the mortgage 2055 01:37:58,720 --> 01:37:59,759 Speaker 2: mortgage broking business. 2056 01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,680 Speaker 7: Absolutely, so we're definitely going to see some volatility. I 2057 01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,360 Speaker 7: would say, you know, just everybody has to be patient. 2058 01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,840 Speaker 7: I have had to be really patient over the last now. 2059 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,240 Speaker 7: But and I know that everybody has missed you, So 2060 01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,040 Speaker 7: I don't think that's true. No, I know, I've heard 2061 01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:23,479 Speaker 7: lots of people who have missed. 2062 01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,160 Speaker 2: Somebody gave me this morning, somebody somebody I work with it. 2063 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,640 Speaker 2: How's your week? Are are you? How you were you 2064 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:31,920 Speaker 2: in bed? 2065 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:34,320 Speaker 7: They didn't even notice. 2066 01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,640 Speaker 2: You right, see you all the time. Thanks for the flowers. 2067 01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,519 Speaker 2: My wife Michelle Sloan Sloan Selles Holmes dot com open 2068 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,599 Speaker 2: house show that's on YouTube and of course via the 2069 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app where the podcasts are to talk real estate 2070 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,240 Speaker 2: every Thursday morning. I was going to come back on Monday, 2071 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,200 Speaker 2: but she said, damn it, I've missed my segment twice 2072 01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,840 Speaker 2: now and I gotta you gotta get back. Come back 2073 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,760 Speaker 2: on Thursday so I can. Well it worked out because 2074 01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 2: you know, and you're picking me up and stuff like that. 2075 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,800 Speaker 7: Yes, for the next three weeks, I get to be 2076 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,200 Speaker 7: the chauffeur to the Star. 2077 01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,160 Speaker 2: There's a chance maybe though that it's sooner rather than later. 2078 01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 2: There's a chance I could maybe start driving again. 2079 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:10,719 Speaker 7: You can't pick up your scooter. 2080 01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta have littlecoore. I got a little ne 2081 01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,400 Speaker 2: scooter I roll around with with a basket on it 2082 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,800 Speaker 2: full so if you see me, you get a shot. 2083 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 7: He does have a basket like Dorothy. It's so funny 2084 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,559 Speaker 7: his knee scooter. And he's pretty fast. 2085 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,559 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, the most stable thing you could. I could 2086 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,680 Speaker 2: roll that pretty easy. I gotta be careful, I know. 2087 01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:28,559 Speaker 7: Yeah that's all. 2088 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,479 Speaker 2: But i'll tell you what. It beats crutches, that's for 2089 01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:31,000 Speaker 2: damn sure. 2090 01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:32,680 Speaker 7: Yeah you're pretty I can. 2091 01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:33,960 Speaker 2: I got crutches too, but. 2092 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:35,479 Speaker 7: I can outrun you on the finding is. 2093 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,439 Speaker 2: The crutches were from my daughter at acl surgery when 2094 01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:42,040 Speaker 2: she was a teenager. From sports and uh, somehow, I 2095 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,519 Speaker 2: don't know, I got those a little short for me, 2096 01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,920 Speaker 2: so i'd wrapped howels like, why did I just get 2097 01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,679 Speaker 2: a new pair of crutches but I got old school crutches. 2098 01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,679 Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fine, it's fine, but manly that nee scooter. 2099 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,599 Speaker 2: I tell you, if you had leg knee surgery, that's 2100 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:54,040 Speaker 2: the way to go. 2101 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:54,320 Speaker 1: Man. 2102 01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:55,479 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. 2103 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it does seem a bit wobbly though it is, 2104 01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,920 Speaker 7: but yeah, you the hard part for you now, our. 2105 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,400 Speaker 2: Dog is not a fan of that. He sees that 2106 01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,120 Speaker 2: thing and he hides because he's afraidest title is going 2107 01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:07,720 Speaker 2: to get run over or something with that. Other than that, 2108 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,720 Speaker 2: it's pretty good. So yeah, all right, well love me, 2109 01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,000 Speaker 2: thanks again, and I've got to get going here because 2110 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:14,320 Speaker 2: Willie is on the way in a few minutes here 2111 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,800 Speaker 2: in the Big One seven hundred WLW. Of course, the 2112 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,519 Speaker 2: big story today written and we'll get into this. I 2113 01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,120 Speaker 2: think maybe with the Reds round up the cowb I'm 2114 01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,040 Speaker 2: not quite sure. But of course, the Reds losing last 2115 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,559 Speaker 2: night in LA kind of root in a sense, thinking, oh, 2116 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,000 Speaker 2: this is a foregone conclusion because the other teams all 2117 01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,880 Speaker 2: took them to game four or game threes rather, and 2118 01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 2: the Reds got swept out in Los Angeles last night. 2119 01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,280 Speaker 2: We had a chance early on, They're up to nothing, 2120 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:41,960 Speaker 2: looks it was gonna hold for a while, and then 2121 01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:43,920 Speaker 2: LA does what they do with that big fat payroll 2122 01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,640 Speaker 2: of theirs and just steamrolled the Cincinnati Reds last night. 2123 01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,479 Speaker 2: So the Reds have been eliminated and you can't kill 2124 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:52,360 Speaker 2: them while they got killed in two games just like that. 2125 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,720 Speaker 2: So we got lots to talk about that. Of course, 2126 01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,120 Speaker 2: the big story today, And if you're waking up this morning, 2127 01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,680 Speaker 2: you're a little hungover from watching the Reds and they 2128 01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:04,000 Speaker 2: had answer certainly basis loaded situations, couldn't get the guys around, 2129 01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,720 Speaker 2: and they lose in Los Angeles, eliminated from playoffs for 2130 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Now, the good news is, and I 2131 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,280 Speaker 2: think the honest is on ownership here in the Castellini family, 2132 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,479 Speaker 2: what moves you make in the offseason to get yourself 2133 01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,920 Speaker 2: to the point where you can advance in the postseason. Really, 2134 01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,720 Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about it all year long, how 2135 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,040 Speaker 2: close they really were, felt like a five hundred team 2136 01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 2: all season. They hovered around that. But what puts them 2137 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,479 Speaker 2: over the top gonna be some bats, although we've seen 2138 01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:30,320 Speaker 2: that before. You get bats in Cincinnati and Great American 2139 01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:32,800 Speaker 2: Small Park, and for some reason, batters come here and 2140 01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,800 Speaker 2: they still can't hit. So I don't know if there's 2141 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 2: a curse, if we have to have some sort of 2142 01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,000 Speaker 2: exorcism at Great American Ballpark, I'm not quite sure. But 2143 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,759 Speaker 2: as bad as it is to get licked and whooped 2144 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,479 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles against the team that quite honestly came 2145 01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,040 Speaker 2: off a World Series championship and just said they're payroll 2146 01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,960 Speaker 2: absolutely loaded, so I know it's going to be a 2147 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:52,800 Speaker 2: good twenty twenty six for sure. I know, I know. 2148 01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,519 Speaker 2: And we've got a long, long cold winter the way 2149 01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,599 Speaker 2: the Bengals are playing anyway, that and more coming up 2150 01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,680 Speaker 2: with Jeff Brownley the Cowboy. We'll get to news, and 2151 01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,680 Speaker 2: then Cunningham takes over twelve oh six. I'll see it 2152 01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 2: back here to Martin. Nine oh six, got thrown back 2153 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,599 Speaker 2: finally on the Home of the Red seven hundred WWD Cincinnati,